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QUOTE(OcnewB @ Mar 18 2006, 06:16 PM)

Well if you cared to read the topics you would know that with this hack you CAN go on live without it detecting you. The 360 does not know that you are using a backup as far as the console goes it is an original. The 360 isnt exactly hacked.. the dvd drive is hacked. The xbox still stops any sort of applictation that isnt signed by ms.

Well, yes, at the moment you can, but the specialist also said it would be rather easy for MS to detect the change and ban users.

[General_Zod]

QUOTE(Achtung @ Mar 18 2006, 07:17 PM)

I have to say all this "I hacked the 360", "oh yeh how did you do it", "We're not telling for the greater good" is a complete joke.

 Seriously I want to puke when I hear these nobel reasons as to why these people who think they are the king of kings or something, and that everyone should lisen to them as the shame us as not being as nobel as thee.

 Give me a break, your telling me they are not just playing backups non stop and going on live probbily bragging about it. I don't really know what happened to everyone but I remeber when I first got into the xbox modding it seemed everyone was more than willing to help each other out and share in the interests.
Now it seems to be like little spolied children saying "Mine Mine and you cant have it!".

I find this all soo ridiculas, and to totally be honnest Its made lose interest especially anything that comes out people like this.

I agree. I'm glad this has finally been done but i'm not sure about whole purpose of doing it and not releasing how. It's like breaking into a bank vault, showing everyone you did it, and not taking any money. What's the point? What's the point in hacking the box, showing the world, and not releasing how you did it except to gloat?

I used to hack software was back in the day and we'd release it the same night it was hacked. We wouldn't put out a message saying "we hacked the latest and greatest game, but we just did it to prove it can be done so worry all you kiddies out there ha! we r0xor. " That's just stupid.

[deadparrot]

QUOTE(Achtung @ Mar 18 2006, 06:17 PM)

I have to say all this "I hacked the 360", "oh yeh how did you do it", "We're not telling for the greater good" is a complete joke.

 Seriously I want to puke when I hear these nobel reasons as to why these people who think they are the king of kings or something, and that everyone should lisen to them as the shame us as not being as nobel as thee.

 Give me a break, your telling me they are not just playing backups non stop and going on live probbily bragging about it. I don't really know what happened to everyone but I remeber when I first got into the xbox modding it seemed everyone was more than willing to help each other out and share in the interests.
Now it seems to be like little spolied children saying "Mine Mine and you cant have it!".

I find this all soo ridiculas, and to totally be honnest Its made lose interest especially anything that comes out of people like this.

Seriously, think about the legal implications.  If they purposely released it, MS could openly sue them for supporting piracy.

[snowcrash8]

QUOTE(General_Zod @ Mar 18 2006, 01:21 PM)

I agree. I'm glad this has finally been done but i'm not sure about whole purpose of doing it and not releasing how. It's like breaking into a bank vault, showing everyone you did it, and not taking any money. What's the point? What's the point in hacking the box, showing the world, and not releasing how you did it except to gloat?

I used to hack software was back in the day and we'd release it the same night it was hacked. We wouldn't put out a message saying "we hacked the latest and greatest game, but we just did it to prove it can be done so worry all you kiddies out there ha! we r0xor. " That's just stupid.

hmmm, legal reasons?  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[big_boludo]

This is from Team Xecuter regarding The Specialist's hacked firmware on the first XBOX DVD Drive:

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This last week has seen the fruits of a massive amount of work by "The Specialist" over at xboxhacker.net - he managed to hack the DVD firmware to enable and Xbox (1) to play backups with no need for a modchip or softmod. Although this type of hack is restricted to the machines own region and none homebrew, however its fine work and we can imagine how he felt when he acheived this - we've had many of those times ourselves in the past.

I would think then that you would be able to play backups on live, since it is in fact a signed XEX and is region compliant.  The xbox thinks it is a real disk, and so would xbox live.  I doubt very much that MS would be able to reflash the DVD drive's firmware over live--it has to require some type of hardware to reflash the firmware.

[MeanMF]

PLEASE don't release this.  While it doesn't allow you to modify executables, it will allow you to modify any UNSIGNED information that's on the DVD.  And looking at games like GRAW that might include everything other than the executable itself.  Depending on the game, that could lead to all sorts of hacks & cheats that could be used on Xbox Live.

[Areohbe]

yes its cool, but who would run their xbox with an original game disc resting on the heatsink....lol

i wanna see that disc after an hour of gameplay...lol


peace

[Xavierking]

QUOTE(General_Zod @ Mar 18 2006, 01:21 PM)

I agree. I'm glad this has finally been done but i'm not sure about whole purpose of doing it and not releasing how. It's like breaking into a bank vault, showing everyone you did it, and not taking any money. What's the point? What's the point in hacking the box, showing the world, and not releasing how you did it except to gloat?

I used to hack software was back in the day and we'd release it the same night it was hacked. We wouldn't put out a message saying "we hacked the latest and greatest game, but we just did it to prove it can be done so worry all you kiddies out there ha! we r0xor. " That's just stupid.

my gosh.... you people...... what is wrong with you? this type of thing is clearly not meant to be released... and if it is to be released.. its to be released gradually... this hack does no good to anyone except those damn dirty pirates. good god. lets just be happy for the guy, huh? jesus christ..... some of you are just like those kids in the store... "i want THAT!" "oh.. no! i want THAT!" "i want BOTH!!"........... ugghh........ you people.....

[alsybub]

QUOTE(rasstar @ Mar 18 2006, 06:07 PM)

MS will send an update to kill it or something. Plus I really don't want to go through the banned from Xbox Live again. That was a pain.

This is nothing like a mod-chip. The whole point of this with the Xbox was that it is undetectable by M$ through LIVE and I would assume that it will be the same with the 360. That is why they will not be releasing it, no one would need a mod chip and M$ would have no way of stopping people playing on LIVE with backups (h-hum).

It's a pretty big deal even if we will never get our hands on it. The point is that it's been done.

QUOTE(Xavierking @ Mar 18 2006, 06:29 PM)

my gosh.... you people...... what is wrong with you? this type of thing is clearly not meant to be released... and if it is to be released.. its to be released gradually... this hack does no good to anyone except those damn dirty pirates. good god. lets just be happy for the guy, huh? jesus christ..... some of you are just like those kids in the store... "i want THAT!" "oh.. no! i want THAT!" "i want BOTH!!"........... ugghh........ you people.....

I totally agree with you. Releasing this would do nothing but damage to the brand and us as consumers. Alarm bells will be ringing at M$ even if it will never see the light of day and THAT is the point.

[OcnewB]

QUOTE(alsybub @ Mar 18 2006, 07:32 PM)

This is nothing like a mod-chip. The whole point of this with the Xbox was that it is undetectable by M$ through LIVE and I would assume that it will be the same with the 360. That is why they will not be releasing it, no one would need a mod chip and M$ would have no way of stopping people playing on LIVE with backups (h-hum).

It's a pretty big deal even if we will never get our hands on it. The point is that it's been done.

Well, this will be released. If I know asia and their piracy.
Not that im glad or something but it is inevitable.

[leorimolo]

$hit I crapped my pants    These guys are incredible kudos to the speacialist, also you should release the firmware with a signature you have so you sign legit apps, also give the firmware to trusted xbox scene hackes or codders. For theyre it be able to be a hombrew comunity.

LEo--Simply AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[.:Dino:.]

woah great news, mad props to all of those involved  

[Midnight Tboy]

what exactly is peoples beef about this potentially enabling people to cheat on live?

I know obviously some ppl love to play on live but what is the big deal....there will always be cheaters, and yeah some stupid kids will no doubt install the cheat for a few days and have a good play about and ruin the game......but at the end of it, playing with infinite health etc will sharp get boring for the cheater.  Its not going to mean some team are suddenly leaps and bounds ahead of the competition as any proper clan match would notice something fishy and be reported....only in those random practice games with random players are you going to see any shortterm problem.

And yes, please withhold the hack for now, until some homebrew is released (even if its such simple homebrew - like telling me the time on screen )..then at least they have a leg to stand on if it ever came to court....besides...I dont yet own a 360 and prob wont until they get some true XBMC-like divx player on there as thats the primary use of my regular xboxs

[team_toyo]

Entertaining, but how did they make the backup, I haven't been up to date with the scene about 6 months now. So if its already been posted, forgive me, but cool none the less.

[Midnight Tboy]

it could of course be a fake too

I want a video panning the camera round the back of a telly to see if theres another 360 plugged into an AV2 scart socket out of site