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[_iffy]

This still doesn't change the fact there aren't any good games for the 360.
Oblivion is the only one that has me interested, and i think i just might get it for the PC instead.

A modded 360 will never be as cool as a modded original xbox.

That is incredible work, but really, it doesn't make me want to go and buy a 360.

*still unimpressed*

[nateh90]

If they were to realease this, it would kill the Xbox 360 bussiness. Eventually the modification would become so easy to attempt no matter how comlicated or easy it is now. This does not allow unsigned code, only running "backups". And dont give me that sh*t that you guys are running backups for safety. Not to be cynical, by for every one person who legitamatly wants to backup their games, there are at least ten people who simply do not wish to pay for games. Job well done to the specialist and friends though, your work always inspires  Thanks - Nate

[snowcrash8]

QUOTE(_iffy @ Mar 18 2006, 01:46 PM)

This still doesn't change the fact there aren't any good games for the 360.
Oblivion is the only one that has me interested, and i think i just might get it for the PC instead.

A modded 360 will never be as cool as a modded original xbox.

That is incredible work, but really, it doesn't make me want to go and buy a 360.

*still unimpressed*

thanks for your post which has nothing to do with the topic.

[SupraKid]

There are worse things that were released for the original Xbox than this.... very impressive feat I must say though.

[KingRasta]

these guys have no balls. nothing more to say.
think about it.thats the reason  why we will work for 2 $/h soon.coz there are no one left with balls between his legs.

[jonny_eh]

I wouldn't worry about cheating on Live. Even though you may be able to change the unsigned content on the disc, ie to make see through walls, they could release a game patch that check's the data files' hashes, and prevent people with altered data from joining. They do this with PC games, but this would be even harder to get around, since you can edit any of the program code.

[.:Dino:.]

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these guys have no balls. nothing more to say.
think about it.thats the reason why we will work for 2 $/h soon.coz there are no one left with balls between his legs.

what are you talking about, maybe show sum respect, if you dont like it then dont take interest, but you should respect the fact that they hacked it, if they dont want to release it, you respect that aswell, if your not happy, go hack it yourself idiot

This post has been edited by .:Dino:.: Mar 18 2006, 08:21 PM

[Eraser77]

You guys are FOOLS if you truly belive that this is going to stay private.

1) the specialist pointed out the key to this is drive firmware, SOOO...
2) the specialist isnt the only hacker that is screwing around with the 360, someone els is bound to do the same-type of hack on the firmware that the specialist did, and not keep it private.

^^ my 2 cents.

This post has been edited by Eraser77: Mar 18 2006, 08:22 PM

[Dominader786]

Just curious, when TheSpecialist cracked the firmware for the original xbox, did it finally get released to the public yet?  It seems like it wasn't a huge priority since modchips and softmods were already out.  However, with the 360, this is the first groundbeaking achievement, so the timeframe may be different on how fast it gets released to the public.

Props to TheSpecialist for his achievement, and for his realization that publicly releasing can get him in extreme trouble by M$.

[ZakMcRofl]

The problem is: you can't get homebrew to run if you have no way to modify the console.
This firmware would enable thousands of people around the world to look for game data exploits in all games available. Right now we're limited to stuff like the demo disc or savegame exploits.

With the drive hacked, all we need is find a game that has a video/font/audio exploit. Which is pretty pointless unless you can modify the disc's content.

About cheating on live: sure people might be able to swap textures or player models but without editing the XBE itself you won't get far. I highly doubt that cheating as in inifinite health would be possible.

OTOH I can understand that they don't want to go through all the trouble. So IMHO its either:
Scenario 1:
they code it, release all specs and wait for someone else to re-code it

Scenario 2:
they code it, release all specs, form a new "group" and release their work under a different name anonymously.

or, which would be sad:
Scenario 3:
they really have no intention of this getting out, in that case I'm sure their HW section will be either misleading or missing vital parts.

My bet is on 1 or 2.

[skylined]

i thought running back ups of originals that you actually owned was legal? so from a back up point this is legal i think... i know peeps would use this to play games that they didnt purchase. i'll be honest i probably would too. i wont do this though. i liked having all my "backups" on a hd easy access no disk's to worry about. plus homebrew (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) good work though. o and i like the song. prodigy rules.  o, one more thing. you guys should call up MS and tell them about your work and ask them about how many achievement points that would unlock? jk

This post has been edited by skylined: Mar 18 2006, 08:31 PM

[tikiboy]

QUOTE(sbma44 @ Mar 18 2006, 07:07 PM)

I hope this is genuine.  Without something released that can be independently verified, though, there's no reason I can see why there couldn't be a second 360 connected to the rear inputs on the TV.

QUOTE(Midnight Tboy @ Mar 18 2006, 07:44 PM)

it could of course be a fake too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I want a video panning the camera round the back of a telly to see if theres another 360 plugged into an AV2 scart socket out of site (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thank you!  After the recent outbreak of fake video iPod pictures, I'm not ready to accept anything without some very solid evidence.  I'm not arguing on moral or ethical grounds for or against releasing the firmware, but the fact that this was a very tight shot and that these results have yet to be confirmed by even one trusted 3rd party leave me less than impressed.

Here's all you have to know:
The TV had rear inputs, there was a second Xbox 360, and the disc in the drive of the "proof of concept" box was someone's burned copy of a Dave Matthews abum.  Sure, it's a clever ruse, and it took at least $900 of 360 goods to pull it off, but that's it.  This is fake.  Let's have some more solid proof before we all get excited about this.

[BlackDwarf]

Meh. I'm calling bullshit.

As people have said, could easily be a 2nd box plugged in round the back.

Release it, then I'll believe you. Not many people are gonna have the skills/knowledge/flashing device to actually do it, so who cares?

Its gonna happen some time anyway, why create it and not release it? Sorry. Dont believe you.

[.:Dino:.]

like i said, either accept it as proof or not, xantium would not post it if it were another fake 360 hack. The specialist is known to be very intelligent and active in 360 hacking.

[Crackmonger]

They still haven't proved beyond a reasonable doubt that this hack even exists.  The camera man is careful to pan up and down slowly so that there is no chance of a cut away, but he also keeps the same portion of the video cable out of sight at all times.  Also, there is no shot of the back of the TV, where a second Xbox could have easily been hooked up.  All he had to do was have someone in the shot pick up the controller and start playing the game.  

We already know that M$ has signed the DVD drive itself, is it possible that they just decided not to sign the data that makes up the firmware?  Maybe, but until the hack is public I'll be sceptical.