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arethemad

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Ps2 Emulator On Modded 360?
« on: June 27, 2006, 04:26:00 PM »

I know that this is probably a pretty dumb question, but when the 360 is finally modded, how hard/possible would it be to make an emulator for the ps2?
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gordita37

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2006, 04:44:00 PM »

I think I read back a while ago that the ps2 was made with some weird kind of hardware that would be hard/impossible to emulate, so my guess is that its never gonna happen tongue.gif
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arethemad

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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2006, 08:08:00 PM »

Whoops. Sorry for posting in the wrong spot.

That sucks though, I guess Guitar Hero will have to wait.

Thanks for the info.

This post has been edited by arethemad: Jun 28 2006, 03:09 AM
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mgamer20o0

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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2006, 12:41:00 AM »

why would anyone want ps2 games on the 360?
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epsilon72

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2006, 12:55:00 AM »

looking at the complexity of emulating 5th generation systems (n64, ps1, etc) it would probably be near IMPOSSIBLE to achieve any acceptable results for emulating 6th generation ones (especially on something that isn't a pc) with high level emulation.  I'm guessing it would also take a super-genius (or M$ and $ony working together, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)) to emulate the emotion engine chip for the ps2 on the 360.

that would be way awsome if it ever did happen though.

you could always go out and buy a used ps2.  easy to get 'em for under 100 or 80 $$.  New ones are $130 now I believe.

This post has been edited by epsilon72: Jun 28 2006, 07:55 AM
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Infamousx241

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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2006, 02:01:00 AM »

Basic rule is:

Consoles CPU power * 10 = Power required to emulate.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2006, 03:30:00 AM »

To the above, the 360 is pretty powerful, didn't the PS2 only have 64mb ram, and the 360 has 512? Thats 8 times the ram, the cpu is 3200 compared to 400 or suttin, thats also 8 times more.

Its probably possible, but the amount of time and effort to do it all wouldn't be worth it. Imagine is MS released a PS2 emulator, imagine it... It would probably be the biggest lawsuit of all time tongue.gif I'd love to see the battle that would go on. A man can dream...
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Kernal69er

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2006, 03:36:00 AM »

Never will happen.
Look at the PS3, (and PS2 was te same at first) Sony can't get backward compatibility to work via emulation. so they are including the PS2 chipset in the first batches of the PS3. I guess in hopes to finaly , down the road, come up with an emulator. But if the PS3 is ever able to complete that emulator, there is no reason why the 360 can't run it, except for the lawsuit.

But niggest question is... why go through that to play last-gen games? When hardly anyone wants to play xbox1 games on there 360
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2006, 05:01:00 AM »

QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Jun 28 2006, 07:02 AM) *

looking at the complexity of emulating 5th generation systems (n64, ps1, etc) it would probably be near IMPOSSIBLE to achieve any acceptable results for emulating 6th generation ones (especially on something that isn't a pc) with high level emulation.  I'm guessing it would also take a super-genius (or M$ and $ony working together, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)) to emulate the emotion engine chip for the ps2 on the 360.


This man pretty much sumed it up for me  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)
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Lord Serebi

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2006, 05:05:00 AM »

wow... what a bold statement.


the emulation scene is huge, and thats me being unbiased about lastgen current gen nonsense. alottt of people want to play xbox1 on their 360 and even more people play "5th generation" on their xbox1. xbox1 is the only console to play so many older systems at full speed.

hit up any PSP or DS hacking forum: "can i play SNES on it!?!1!?kthnx"

ps2 didn't even emulate ps1. lol.  but in comparison to MHZ the ps2's emotion engine is only 300odd mhz. i never heard about the thing that says it has some hardware or protection that prevents it from being emulated.


but seriously, go get a fatty ps2 for $90 refurbished at EB Games and hard mod that sucker.. do the softmod hdd mod too. such a huge library of games.

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2006, 06:56:00 AM »

as it stands we cant even manage to make a saturn emu that will run at an acceptable speed (id kill for one) so i think ps2 is a long way off yet
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2006, 07:22:00 AM »

I'd be happy with just a full speed / fully compatible n64 emulator . . I wanna play perfect dark and goldeneye at full hd res with AA/Af .  A boy can dream cant he
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killab138

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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2006, 10:40:00 AM »

now a 3do emulator for 360......that would kick ass....
aahhhhh......
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2006, 11:06:00 AM »

What makes the PS2 so difficult to emulate is the fill rate of the graphics chip. while the system on a whole wasn't that great it had an enormous fill rate which IIRC is what developers are leveraging with the recent crop of pretty damn good looking PS2 games (God of War, Shadow of Colossus, Tekken 5, etc.)

As for seeing an emulator... Most (if not ALL) console emulators are simply PC emulators that have been ported to the console... re-complied, tweaked and played with to work on the console.

To that end, the BEST any console emulator could ever hope to be is "as good as" the PC version, typically they lag behind by at least a release with about 85% of the capabilities.

So you probably wont ever see a 360 emulating a PS2 (or Saturn, or 3DO, or ... ) until you see it being done on a PC first.

there ARE emulators out there for both the PS2 and the Saturn, though they don't work all that great, they're still very much in their infancy.

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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2006, 02:28:00 PM »

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jun 28 2006, 06:13 PM) View Post
As for seeing an emulator... Most (if not ALL) console emulators are simply PC emulators that have been ported to the console... re-complied, tweaked and played with to work on the console.


That was really only true for Xbox, since the emulators could basically be just recompiled and run.  However, writing native emulators for Xbox 360 would make them MUCH faster than porting them from the PC versions.
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