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« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2005, 03:24:00 PM »

Well does any1 know where i can get the original MS dashboard files while being in my position.If you do contact me on AIM.S/N is gunless spartan.
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« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2005, 04:01:00 PM »

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So i gotta get a modchip or get the right files for the MS dashboard and make a bootable xboxhdm cd

You are making this harder work than it has to be. Forget xboxhdm UNLESS you can UNLOCK the drive.
For the dash files you could extract the Slayer ISO (2.6 not 2.5) and get them from that if you have to.
If you can not unlock the drive you need a chip and Slayers 2.6 and you can make it all work again.
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« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2005, 04:05:00 PM »

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So i gotta get a modchip or get the right files for the MS dashboard and make a bootable xboxhdm cd

You are making this harder work than it has to be. Forget xboxhdm UNLESS you can UNLOCK the drive.
For the dash files you could extract the Slayer ISO (2.6 not 2.5) and get them from that if you have to.
If you can not unlock the drive you need a chip and Slayers 2.6 and you can make it all work again.

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eeproms get corrupted by just doing stuff via ftp (deleting and adding)

You can't corrupt the Eeprom deleting or adding files via ftp to the HDD. the eeprom data is stored in a chip on the motherboard not on the HDD. To corrupt the Eeprom you would have to use some means of writing to the physical addresses in the chip ie Configmagic or an eeprom programmer. Static dischargem through the chip during a surge or whatever can mess up the contents but not deleting anything from the HDD
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« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2005, 04:11:00 PM »

ok chancer, i know ur a moderator but don't talk about what u don't know, as i said, i've SEEN with my own eyes, perfectly workin xboxes flash RED on next boot, last time was from trying to delete UIX via ftp...It did happened, and it happened to me...now i know what an eeprom chip is, i know it's a hardware surface mount component and i've desoldered them and put new ones in, doesn't change the fact that the code on the chip can become corrupted, and in my case, it happened from deleting a dash on C via ftp, period...Maybe something happened in the xbox when that delete process was going which caused a static charge like u said or something got written or unwritten to the eeprom during that hdd deletion, doesn't matter, that's what happened....
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« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2005, 04:18:00 PM »

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ok chancer, i know ur a moderator but don't talk about what u don't know, as i said, i've SEEN with my own eyes,

Been a moderator has nothing to do with it. I know technically how the eeprom works I know how it can be written to. What you said is wrong, if you believe what you were deleting or not caused then that is not the cause.
Explain how deleting stuff from the HDD and putting stuff back on can posiibly write code to the Eeprom chip. Explain how it can actually access the addresses of the chip.
No bull either. I do know about this.
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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2005, 04:22:00 PM »

Ok, i don't doubt that u do know something about this subject, but, i don't know how deleting things off the hdd cause it to red flash, but u tell me how it did not, and then what in the hell did, and "I dunno what caused it, but it wasn't deleting stuff off the hdd" isn't answer...Since if u don't know, u can't say...I assure u all i did was boot, ftp in, delete the uix.xbe and the uix folder on C, reboot, red flashing eeprom...Not trying to be a dick here, i would appreciate u filling me in cuz that sh*t pissed me off, had to do all kinds of crap to fix that xbox.
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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2005, 04:34:00 PM »

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but don't talk about what u don't know,

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Ok, i don't doubt that u do know something about this subject,


Eeprom is an Electronically erasable programmable read onlyl memory
A surge or voltage spike to the eeprom itself can erase some of the blocks within it which would obviously corrupt it. this usually happens during in thunderstorms (on some TV stuff when there is a desugn fault and the 5v supply is not correctly smoothed) .
Maybe you had a staic problem or a severe internal voltage fluctuation that just occurred at the time you doing something with the box and the natural assumption is it was because you were FTPing stuff on and off the HDD its sometimes impossible to trace the exact electrical throughput to the chip that causes corruption but definetely removing any files or replacing does not write to chip.
Can you imagine how many corrupt eeproms would be about if changing contents of the HDD corrupted the Eeprom. Imagine the times during even gameplay when the hDD is accessed and files cached to it. Let alone people changing dashboards and  putting games on and off.

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I've seen eeproms get corrupted by just doing stuff via ftp (deleting and adding) and sometimes it can be a GREEN FLASHING LED

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.I assure u all i did was boot, ftp in, delete the uix.xbe and the uix folder on C, reboot, red flashing eeprom

You don't seem to be too sure on your facts here. was it defo a corrupt eeprom you had or are you covering what you said
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« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2005, 04:40:00 PM »

Funny quoting, what i meant was, u didn't know the situation i had, me personally, so making general statements seems condescending...and i never said u didn't know what an eeprom was or how it works, i meant my experience...yeah yeah i already know, no matter what, my circumstance couldn't have corrupted the eeprom, but that's what happened, 1 second good, next not good...U have cleared up the possible ways it could have gotten corrupted and i thank u, i thought only directly messing with it with configmagic or something could do that...i didn't realize a spike could mess upt he code on the chip, that musta been what happened...thanx.
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« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2005, 04:46:00 PM »

A static discharge or spike is the most common cause. You would be amazed how much I enjoy lightning storms. It increases my Tv work ten fold and the biggest problem is corrupt eeproms. same thing happens if the CRT flashes over.
I can see how unplugging one of the cables with the xbox powered up could cause a problem with eeprom corruption ( as in hotswapping HDDs or whatever).
Sometimes its impossible to trace the exact cause unless its a recuuring thing
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« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2005, 04:48:00 PM »

I take it u know how to replace MCPX chips, do u have a hot air rework station?
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« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2005, 05:02:00 PM »

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JohnnyHunng

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« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2005, 05:50:00 PM »

eh that's too bad, i have a few dead mcpx mobos....
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« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2005, 06:20:00 PM »

QUOTE(Shoo Box @ May 7 2005, 04:08 AM)
Nice way to boost your post count.. dry.gif
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« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2005, 07:18:00 PM »

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« Reply #44 on: May 08, 2005, 01:52:00 AM »

QUOTE(Chancer @ May 7 2005, 11:08 PM)
I do indeed have a hot air rework station. The gear for replacing the MCPX is very specialised though and I doubt anyone would pay me enough to justify purchasing the correct attachments to fit these. I
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