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[HSDEMONZ]

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As expected, the thieves over at the "fake factory" have been so badly criticized and have had so many come-backs that they have been hard at work revising and revamping their chip to get it closer to the original (in looks mainly). Seriously, even though they are clowns they at least have the common sense to admit failure in their first attempt and will try, try again. Below you will find pics of the 'new and improved' version. Sadly, there are still many obvious mistakes that have been made, which is why we cannot call them clones yet, they are still FAKES. Very rough and raw and badly manufactured fakes. Copying is really easy, replicating and cloning is not that simple and straightforward is it? We are now issuing our third and final warning. It is not about the few extra bucs saved as many people are thinking. It is about the few extra bucs lost when these chips fail. Many retailers have finally realized their mistake and are scrambling around to recover huge losses in capital outlay. All of a sudden chips are starting to fry without warning and failing in many other ways. What amazes us is how utterly naïve and short sighted some people are in that they try them out initially and assume they will work forever! Genuine Xeniums have been out in the market for over three months and have proven themselves in more ways than one. Fakes have not. WE HAVE NEVER LIED TO YOU AND DO NOT INTEND TO START NOW! FAKES WILL NOT WORK! We will not issue any further warnings after this post. It is now up to you. Click on picture for large version Original Xenium 1. Solder filled pads (only on these points) 2. White spot(s) 3. Clear (see through) LED case 4. 3 Dots are blue 5. Font centre points of “W” and “M” go half way “D” differs as well 6+7. Grounding Mesh differs as shown Fake Chip 1. No solder filled pads on these points 2. No White spots 3. Opaque (milky) LED case 4. 3 Dots are silver 5. Font differs 6+7. Ground Mesh differs as shown Note : If you have bought a Fake thinking it was an Original please feel free to do a credit card charge back and site FRAUD as the reason.

(April 6 00:58 GMT+1)

[marksu]

[marksu]

QUOTE (techno tom @ Apr 7 2004, 12:40 PM)

Where are all the complaints? I can find just 2 people who are not associated with ozxodus(some of these posts look very suspicious)with issues? And it they are such bad quality the Offical ones should be bad too as they use 100% the same i.c's? These people need to start getting some brain cells in there heads before posting! My offical chip died so it looks like it must be using the same doggy batch of components that the clone uses(as they use 100% the same i.c's)? Maybe the CPLD and FLASH chips are clones of the originals and thats why they are not working! And before you start with more rubbish i am not linked to any clone group etc!

We are not here to be your personal search engine.
Most ppl talking here have been here a while and been partisipating with many thread discusions.

You have Joined: 1-April 04, have made 8 post an clame to have read through hole forum.

You make me lauf!

You like to flame Ozxodus and all the ppl on the forum.

What is your agenda realy?

[techno tom]

QUOTE (CrayZEE @ Apr 7 2004, 05:36 PM)

The problem with the clones is, that you have no warranty in any way. So far there been some people who got a bad real xenium, and all been replaced for free at the store they bought it. With a clone, you don't get a replacement. You already saw that. Plus cloning is really bad, if you aren't innovative enough to create something new, just leave it, this scene doesnt need half working modchips (we already have xecuters here though, but atleast they arent cloned) Another problem with clones is that there is no quality control from OZXodus, which basically means every 2nd modchip could be a dead unit, and indeed this is a high risk to spend 40-50$ into a non working modchip. Clones are known to have various issues, i hang out in various channels on IRC and there is not one week where we dont get a person with problems with a xenium clone. IF it was really the same, and only looked a bit different, nobody would care.

Again forgive me as i am not here to promote clones etc as i have been acussed of!
But the sites i have seen seling clones offer a 2 for 1 offer if your chip is DOA and also a life time guarantee,To be honest these people would be crazy to sell people duds and offer this kind of warranty?
Also one of the sellers(again i won't mention names as i don't want to be accused of promoting etc) i have seen has been around for a very long time and i doubt he would sell non working or unreliable stuff to people,so again i am pointing out facts and not just stuff made up by people,i have also seen a lot of complaints about offical chips not working or going wrong in many posts including mine!
So again i have to disagree with what you are saying!

[XPS2DCBox]

xmods.ca sent me a fake Xenium too! Oh well, at least I'm getting my merchandise back!

[marksu]

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Xenium ID Tester >> From nfo/readme: QUOTE This legal xbox app will check and display whether you have a Clone(Fake) or Original Xenium. Results are not 100% guaranteed. Source code is included. Official Site: n/a Download: here (legal using linux bootloader - no XDK) News-Source: xbins.org

Hope cloners cant use the source code in their advantage though.

[HSDEMONZ]

OzXodus is investigating that file. I know I'll never run it.. as we know who released it.. and their "hands" are all over it.

As for the clone talk.. yah.. it's over. People wanting to determine if they have a clone can view the pinned threads.

Until you hear more about that file from OzXodus.. I wouldn't touch it.