Topic: 7200rpm.. Whats The Big Deal? (Read 100 times)

krazyjosh5 · « **on:** October 01, 2002, 04:26:00 PM »

hey all,
i cannot find a WD 120GB 8MB 5400RPM drive. i HAVE found a GREAT price on a WD 120GB 8MB 7200RPM drive but im told 7200RPM is bad....
why?
im going to go a cable mod

will it overheat? if so, how long?
if you reccomend another hard drive, i need a model number. i need something also that will be readily available at a store (not a discontinued line or anything)

also, where can i buy uncut ata100 cables (the ones used to replace the ATA33 ones)? thanks!! you guys are GREAT!!

The LumbraX · « **Reply #1 on:** October 01, 2002, 05:48:00 PM »

Yes 5400 and 7200 is a big deal compared with the xbox. A 7200RPM Drive will overheat unless you install extra cooling fans. Just go out and buy a Maxtor 80GB 5400 Hard-Drive. (And The 5400 Drives are Cheaper

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opjose · « **Reply #2 on:** October 01, 2002, 06:49:00 PM »

The 7200 RPM drives get --HOT---!

The oem xbox drive didn't even get warm in prolonged operation.

Some people have marginally heat susceptible systems to start with, and adding a 7200 RPM drive greatly exacerbates the problem.

That said I'm also running a WD1200JB 120g 7200 RPM drive w/8 meg cache, without problems on two Xboxes. I have a third where the drive has indeed made the machine lock up.

After reseating the CPU & chipset heatsink with new thermal paste, the problem went away though.

BzD · « **Reply #3 on:** October 01, 2002, 11:29:00 PM »

7200 rpm here and no probs

SpankMan · « **Reply #4 on:** October 02, 2002, 05:30:00 AM »

Heat shortens the lifetime of the harddrive (and other components).
It may run just fine without any problems. But a disk running very hot will eventually break down.

UsMarine · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2002, 06:35:00 AM »

I have 120gig HD Maxtor 5400 works great

souncool · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2002, 08:17:00 AM »

wd 120 gig 7200 and no problems.

WiKKiD · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2002, 08:22:00 AM »

Oh, and fyi, as the controller in the xbox is ata33, ata100 cables are absolutely pointless.. Anybody who claims differently is flat out wrong, and anybody who says they did benchmarks and got better speeds with ata100 is flat out lying.

kanchke · « **Reply #8 on:** October 02, 2002, 10:41:00 AM »

QUOTE

Oh, and fyi, as the controller in the xbox is ata33, ata100 cables are absolutely pointless.. Anybody who claims differently is flat out wrong, and anybody who says they did benchmarks and got better speeds with ata100 is flat out lying.

Well just by changing the cable I improved my upload speeds x 1.6 times

Any reasonable explanation for that ?

Anyway .. I just wanted to play sure no to f***k up my dearly beloved Xbox so I went for the 5400rpm => no complaints here

opjose · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2002, 01:49:00 PM »

QUOTE (cadman @ Oct 2 2002, 05:11 PM)

There is NO heat problems on the 7200 rpm drives... I have the WD 120GB 7200rpm... no funny noices... no heat problems at all. If you are having problems with some xbox's it is not because of heat, many things can go wrong in a new drive (mechanical or electrically); don't state that the problem is due to heat.

Eh, no. Just because you are not having a problem doesn't mean that it can't happen.

"The 7200 RPM drives get --HOT---!

The oem xbox drive didn't even get warm in prolonged operation.

Some people have marginally heat susceptible systems to start with, and adding a 7200 RPM drive greatly exacerbates the problem."

The key word is "some".

There do seem to be a few Xboxes out there, that for whatever reasons don't take well to increased temperatures, which the larger hard drives create.

I suspect though that this may be more due to heatsinks not being in full chip contact than to anything else though...

krazyjosh5 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 02, 2002, 03:46:00 PM »

kanchke > yeah thats what i wanna do, whered u buy ur cable? i need help finding the uncut ata100 cables

heat issues, are there any ballpark guesses to which xboxs might or might not have em? (ie ones made after whenever or whatever, etc etc etc) also, if ur xbox overheats, what happens, u let it sit until cool and then go back and play again?

do you think maybe i could just leave my case off or cracked or something during game play?

thanks!!

krazyjosh5 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 02, 2002, 04:10:00 PM »

from the western digital website

(go to the website, go to the 120GB drives, 7200 and 5400, go to Support and Documentation tab and then look on the top of the right column for the Product Detail Sheet thing in HTML format)

5400RPM
Operating Temperature and Humidity
Temperature 5°C to 55°C (41°F to 131°F)
Humidity 5-85% RH non-condensing
33°C (maximum wet bulb)
Thermal Gradient 20°C/hour (maximum)
Humidity Gradient 20%/hour (maximum)

7200RPM
Operating Temperature and Humidity
Temperature* 5°C to 55°C (41°F to 131°F)
Humidity 5-95% RH non-condensing
33°C (maximum wet bulb)
Thermal Gradient 20°C/hour (maximum)
Humidity Gradient 20%/hour (maximum)

* The system environment must allow sufficient air flow.

both caviar drives. the 7200RPM is 8MB and the 5400RPM is 2MB.

i think ill be going with the 7200RPM as money isnt too much of a problem right now and they are pretty much the same heat specs

DJ Fusion · « **Reply #12 on:** October 02, 2002, 05:20:00 PM »

I have a 120GB 5400 rpm drive, but my friends have the 80GB 7200 rpm drive and they haven't experienced any overheating but I got the slow one just to be on the safe side.

GeordieCA · « **Reply #13 on:** October 02, 2002, 08:22:00 PM »

QUOTE (krazyjosh5 @ Oct 2 2002, 10:10 PM)

from the western digital website

The temperature figures quoted there are the temperature that the drive's environment must be within in order for the drive to operate correctly.
So if you live in near the equator and your operating temperature is 132F you need to get some cooling.
they have no relation to the heat generated by the drive while it is operating.

opjose · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2002, 09:42:00 PM »

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