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LANDON14

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« on: September 19, 2005, 02:19:00 PM »

In case you aren't familiar with how our government is
    SUPPOSED to work:
    The chain of responsibility for the protection of the citizens in New
    Orleans is:

    1. The Mayor
    2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a political appointee
    of
    the Governor who reports to the Governor)
    3. The Governor
    4. The Head of Homeland Security
    5. The President

    What did each do?

    1. The mayor, with 5 days advance, waited until 2 days before he announced
    a mandatory evacuation (at the behest of the President). The he failed
    to
    provide transportation for those without transport even though he had
    hundreds of buses at his disposal.

    2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security failed to have any plan
    for a contingency that has been talked about for 50 years. Then he blames
    the Feds for not doing what he should have done. (So much for political
    appointees)

    3. The Governor, despite a declaration of disaster by the President 2
    DAYS
    BEFORE the storm hit, failed to take advantage of the offer of Federal
    troops and aid. Until 2 DAYS AFTER the storm hit.

    4. The Director of Homeland Security positioned assets in the area to
    be
    ready when the Governor called for them

    5. The President urged a mandatory evacuation, and even declared a disaster
    State of Emergency, freeing up millions of dollars of federal assistance,
    should the Governor decide to use it.

    Oh and by the way, the levees that broke were the responsibility of the
    local landowners and the local levee board to maintain, NOT THE FEDERAL
    GOVERNMENT.

    The disaster in New Orleans is what you get after decades of corrupt
    government going all the way back to Huey Long.

    Funds for disaster protection and relief have been flowing into this city
    for decades, and where has it gone, but into the pockets of the politicos
    and their friends.

    Decades of socialist government in New Orleans has sapped all self reliance
    from the community, and made them dependent upon government for every little
    thing.

    Political correctness and a lack of will to fight crime have created the
    single most corrupt police force in the country, and has permitted gang
    violence to flourish.

    The sad thing is that there are many poor folks who have suffered and
    died
    needlessly because those that they voted into office failed them.

    For those who missed item 5 (where the President's level of accountability
    is discussed), it is made more clear in a New Orleans Times-Picayune article
    dated August 28:

    NEW ORLEANS (AP) - In the face of a catastrophic Hurricane Katrina, a
    mandatory evacuation was ordered Sunday for New Orleans by Mayor Ray Nagin.

    Acknowledging that large numbers of people, many of them stranded tourists,
    would be unable to leave, the city set up 10 places of last resort for
    people to go, including the Superdome.

    The mayor called the order unprecedented and said anyone who could leave
    the city should. He exempted hotels from the evacuation order because
    airlines had already cancelled all flights.

    Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference,
    said
    President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation
    for
    the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding.

    The ball was placed in Mayor Nagin's court to carry out the evacuation
    order. With a 5-day heads-up, he had the authority to use any and all
    services to evacuate all residents from the city, as documented in a city
    emergency preparedness plan. By waiting until the last minute, and failing
    to make full use of resources available within city limits, Nagin and his
    administration fouled up.

    Mayor Nagin and his emergency sidekick Terry Ebbert have displayed lethal,
    mind boggling incompetence before, during and after Katrina.


    As for Mayor Nagin, he and his profile in pathetic leadership police chief
    should resign as well. That city's government is incompetent from one end
    to
    the other. The people of New Orleans deserve better than this crowd of
    clowns is capable of giving them.

    If you're keeping track, these boobs let 569 buses that could have carried
    33,350 people out of New Orleans-in one trip-get ruined in the floods.
    Whatever plan these guys had, it was a dud. Or it probably would have been
    if they'd bothered to follow it.

    As for all the race-baiting rhetoric and Bush-bashing coming from prominent
    blacks on the left, don't expect Ray Nagin to be called out on the carpet
    for falling short. You want to know why? Here's why:

    It's more convenient to blame a white president for what went wrong than
    to
    hold a black mayor and his administration accountable for gross negligence
    and failing to fully carry out an established emergency preparedness plan.

    To hold Nagin and his administration accountable for dropping the ball
    amounts to letting loose the shouts and cries of "Racism!". It's
    sad, it's
    wrong, but it's standard operating procedure for the media and left-wing
    black leadership.

    Mark my words: you will not hear a word of criticism from Jesse Jackson
    Sr., Randall Robinson, the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, or Kanye
    West being directed toward Clarence Ray Nagin Jr. Why? Because he is just
    another black politician instead of a responsible elected official who
    happens to be black. In the mindset of more-blacker-than-thou blacks, black
    politicians who are on their side can do no wrong.






       




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xmedia2004

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2005, 07:50:00 PM »

QUOTE(Statecowboy @ Sep 18 2005, 09:33 AM)
Why don't you spend some of your time and effort driving to N.O. and helping out instead of pointing fingers and looking up history on the web and posting links like you are doing research for the good of humanity.  Stop bitching and do something.
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The unProfessional

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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2005, 09:11:00 PM »

Notice the lack of response when someone actually does their homework.

Where are the arguments from all the "blame the feds for Katrina because I have no understanding of government" people?
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2005, 09:29:00 PM »

QUOTE(The unProfessional @ Sep 21 2005, 05:22 AM)
Notice the lack of response when someone actually does their homework.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2005, 10:31:00 PM »

This post = 10/10
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2005, 08:14:00 AM »

Thank god someone else 'gets it'. Thats about all I have to say on it. Very nice post and good research.
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The unProfessional

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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2005, 07:00:00 PM »

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Or maybe its just a irellevant, and add a source next time arse hole

I blame Allah, buddha, Sean Penn, Rudy Guliani, Osama Bin Laden, George Michael, Danny Bonnadouce, Rudy Ray Moore, Rosie O'Donnel, Charlie Murphy,
Leon Spinks, Tori Spelling, Joe Pelligrino, Clarence Thomas, The kid from 6th Sense, Triple H, Mr Wrestling #1 and #2, yada yada, and Chris Kringle


Ignorance is bliss  beerchug.gif
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2005, 08:38:00 AM »

http://www.factcheck...article348.html

Well, here's an unbiased version of what happened and who are to blame...  On the bright side, the lessons of what we learned in Katrina, people are leaving Galveston because of Rita.
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2005, 08:39:00 AM »

Aargh, damn server...
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2005, 10:56:00 AM »

QUOTE(The unProfessional @ Sep 22 2005, 03:11 AM)
Ignorance is bliss  beerchug.gif
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2005, 11:30:00 AM »

QUOTE(The unProfessional @ Sep 22 2005, 03:11 AM)
Ignorance is blissĀ  beerchug.gif
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2005, 11:41:00 AM »

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Still seems irrelevant we wouldnt even be having this debate if Levy system had not failed.


It's not a debate...

alot of people have misunderstood the structure of our government during this tragedy.  I saw the headline of newsweek the other day "KATRINA AND HOW BUSH FAILED US".  There are many other reasons why bush sucks, but the left-wing slant of the media has been blatent over the past several weeks.

I'm not even making this a partisan issue like you did in your previous post.  The point is, local governments failed and they should also be held accountable.  But all of the blame has fallen on the feds because of partisanship.

Personally, I don't distinguish the victims in LA and the victims in Miss... but the media SURE did.  They practically ignored the damage in Biloxi.

I love how you say this thread is propaganda, though... that cracks me up.  Somebody states what actually happened... and that's propaganda.
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2005, 01:35:00 PM »


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alot of people have misunderstood the structure of our government during this tragedy.  I saw the headline of newsweek the other day "KATRINA AND HOW BUSH FAILED US".  There are many other reasons why bush sucks, but the left-wing slant of the media has been blatent over the past several weeks.


Dont confuse Bush sucks,and is an idiot with FEDs screwed up period.
He is president, "The Buck stops here" Is he personally responsibel accountable of course not. BUT GEOVERNMENT FAILED with respect to Levy project

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I'm not even making this a partisan issue like you did in your previous post.  The point is, local governments failed and they should also be held accountable.  But all of the blame has fallen on the feds because of partisanship.

Where did I make this a political issue I only state an observation and ask any open minded reader to draw his own conclusion. I am not a democrat, and certain individuals quick reaction to label me as such is comical, but I have been called worse. Those were the worlds of the Trent Lott and the Mayor of Gulfport who both happen to be Republican

Who would blame Guliani for NYPD & NYFD massive screw ups that simply caused lives at WTC.  It kind of same thing at Gulf Coast.  

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Personally, I don't distinguish the victims in LA and the victims in Miss... but the media SURE did.  They practically ignored the damage in Biloxi.

Neither do I.  But I would bet money that no one can name the Goverenor of any other town affected by Katrina, based upon the coverage. NO orleans was small fraction of affected land area but 99 % of news coverage. Seems slanted to me having relatives in Miss, and only detracts from Miss.

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I love how you say this thread is propaganda, though... that cracks me up.  Somebody states what actually happened... and that's propaganda.

Propaganda is a specific type of message presentation aimed at serving an agenda. At its root, the denotation of propaganda is 'to propagate (actively spread) a philosophy or point of view'. The most common use of the term (historically) is in political contexts; in particular to refer to certain efforts sponsored by governments or political groups.

Propoganda Part

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As for all the race-baiting rhetoric and Bush-bashing coming from prominent
blacks on the left, don't expect Ray Nagin to be called out on the carpet
for falling short. You want to know why? Here's why:

It's more convenient to blame a white president for what went wrong than
to
hold a black mayor and his administration accountable for gross negligence
and failing to fully carry out an established emergency preparedness plan.

To hold Nagin and his administration accountable for dropping the ball
amounts to letting loose the shouts and cries of "Racism!". It's
sad, it's
wrong, but it's standard operating procedure for the media and left-wing
black leadership.

Mark my words: you will not hear a word of criticism from Jesse Jackson
Sr., Randall Robinson, the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, or Kanye
West being directed toward Clarence Ray Nagin Jr. Why? Because he is just
another black politician instead of a responsible elected official who
happens to be black. In the mindset of more-blacker-than-thou blacks, black
politicians who are on their side can do no wrong.


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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2005, 02:20:00 PM »

Lets see how we handle hurricane RITA.

I think there is noticable screw up's already happening like the highway not going north in both dirrections...people pushing their cars to concerve gas and it takes them 24 hours to get to dallas on a normal 4 hour drive....that is unexceptable.
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2005, 04:48:00 PM »

QUOTE(hugoboss1 @ Sep 22 2005, 10:31 PM)
Lets see how we handle hurricane RITA.
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