Its a VERY grey area, no doubt about it, BUT what you have to understand, is in the US, $ talks.. you think you, one person, will win in a court case when M$ and the Feds are their with CC records, IRC Chat logs, forum print outs, etc.. I know, very very extreme and unlikely case.. but still in the realm of possibility... come on, I NEVER thought I would be getting sued by DTV, but looks to be that way.. all for buying ONE ISOProgrammer back in '97. This wasnt an unlooper, did NOT have any special Atmel flashed on it, NOTHING, just standard ISOProgrammer that has 1000 uses.. unfortunately, I bought it from a DTV hacking site...