but we also have to take in account that those are alpha kits and arent using the full processing power.. so this is only 2/3rds of what the x360 can handle.. but also to bring up a point one more time.. these are 1st generation games coming out.. dont expect ooo and aaahhh right away.. halo 3 will probably be the first next-gen game to oooo us all(i hope)