I am the team member that builds the controllers for vicious consoles. I agree, please do not thread crap....I know you are trying to help, but it doesn't help...it pisses people off. Also the prices on our site are dropping a lot. They just have not fixed the page yet, I do the quotes, and they are way different than the prices you are seeing. I am sorry nofear about the crap of your thread and I hope your modding goes well bro. <