Well my opinion on the whole "waiting 1.5 yr to admit" is that most of the people that have a dead console has opened it in the attempt to fix it, or gave it to a repair shop in a ATTEMPT to fix them.....but out of nowhere...3 YEAR WARRENTY!!!!.....sounds good...but most of the early people to experience the RRoD are screwed since they opened their console...and M$ knows this.... if you broke your seal at all... go see if M$ will honor the warrenty,,,,even if you didnt mod. It wont happen. I have repaired a few of these... and now these people are playing russion roulette because of M$ dragging their ass on the problem.......nothing like taking care of your customers.