@heet
i think Arvarden comments were more of a jab at me then the NY times.
and actually the ny times is pretty neo-conish
they are very liberal/socialist as you pointed out, and they also tend to support just about any war atleast in the beginning (both are good for business). A neocon in its basic elements is a socialist with a hawk-like foreign policy.
Since I am a libertarian I am pretty far away from being a neo-con or a nazi. but hey when have we ever let the actual definition words get in the way of mud slinging
QUOTE(heet)
Ya that's the joke. The Saudi's are the terrorists.
QUOTE(Arvarden)
Now you mention it, the saudi's are sponsors of state terror.
its the golden rule - he who has the gold (or oil in this case) makes the rules