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Intensecure

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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2004, 07:25:00 AM »

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Yeah, that whole winning the cold war without any casualties on either side is totally eclipsed by the ketchup-vegetable "scandal."

And, of course, had nothing to do with the pre-emptive actions of Mikhail Gorbachev who initiated unilateral disarmament while Ronnie the senile muttered about "666" and the marks on Mikhails forehead wink.gif
Go read something intelligent - Reagan DID NOT win the cold war.
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2004, 08:46:00 AM »

You don't know what you're talking about.

If Reagan weren't in charge in the 80s, the Berlin wall would still be up to this day.
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2004, 03:35:00 PM »

Quick history lesson for you skeen.  Ronald Reagan knew that the Soviet Union did not have much money left.  He increased defense spending, the USSR did the same, and the rest is history.  The Soviet Union did not have that kind of money to spend, and Reagan knew that.  This helped with the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2004, 10:31:00 PM »

QUOTE (Intensecure @ Jun 8 2004, 04:25 PM)
And, of course, had nothing to do with the pre-emptive actions of Mikhail Gorbachev who initiated unilateral disarmament while Ronnie the senile muttered about "666" and the marks on Mikhails forehead wink.gif
Go read something intelligent - Reagan DID NOT win the cold war.

rolleyes.gif  You extremists are all alike; take a kernel of truth and twist it with fallacies.  Go vent your frustrations somewhere else.
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2004, 02:38:00 AM »

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Intensecure

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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2004, 02:39:00 AM »

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I recommend reading Deterring Democracy by Noam Chomsky if you're interested in reading something intelligent about the cold war.

I have, several times. Worth re-reading if you have forgotten some facts. Reagan refused initially to sign the non-proliferation treaty due to fear that it was a "ploy", cue Dr Strangelove type quotes...
"the “Evil Empire” that is “the focus of evil in our time,” seeking to rule the world (Reagan)
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"Reagan DID NOT win the cold war."    It takes 2 to tango

Yes, it does. And someone takes the lead...And, yes, of course there were positive actions taken on both sides - But someone has to play Devils Advocate.
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You extremists are all alike; take a kernel of truth and twist it with fallacies. Go vent your frustrations somewhere else.

No, I'll make my points here, thank you. Always more fun because some of you have a) no sense of history cool.gif no sense of irony c) get sooo wound up it's always causes much hilarity at Intensecure Mansion where we anarchists gather to plot your downfall! When you can construct an argument, it might be worth replying to - haven't seen any!
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2004, 08:32:00 AM »

QUOTE (Intensecure @ Jun 11 2004, 11:39 AM)
No, I'll make my points here, thank you. Always more fun because some of you have a) no sense of history cool.gif no sense of irony c) get sooo wound up it's always causes much hilarity at Intensecure Mansion where we anarchists gather to plot your downfall! When you can construct an argument, it might be worth replying to - haven't seen any!

You go girl!
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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2004, 09:54:00 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2004, 09:01:00 PM »

Although few of you will care, here is an extract from gregpalast.com, another "horrible liberal/socialist/communist/ delete as applicable" journalist who has seen the realities of what Reagan was involved in.
And I hope Nancy lives to be 120!


Reagan, fact and fantasy

Greg Palast says condemnation, not praise, is ex-President's due

Sunday June 13, 2004
The Observer

You shouldn't speak ill of the dead. But in this case, I have to. Ronald Reagan was a conman. A coward. A killer.

In 1987 I found myself stuck in a little town in Nicaragua named Chaguitillo. The people were kind, though hungry, except for one surly young man. His wife had just died of tuberculosis. People don't die of TB if they get antibiotics. But Reagan had put a embargo on medicine to Nicaragua because he didn't like the government the people had elected.

As Ronnie was cracking those famous jokes, the lungs of that mother of three were filling up and drowning her.

And when Hizbollah terrorists murdered hundreds of United States marines in their sleep in Lebanon, the TV warrior with the B-movie grin ran from the scene like a whipped dog ... then turned around and invaded Grenada. That little Club Med war was a murderous PR stunt so that Ronnie could hold parades for gunning down Cubans building an airport.

I remember Nancy, in designer dresses, some of the 'gifts' that flowed to the Reagans - from hats to million-dollar homes - from cronies well compensated with government loot. It used to be called bribery.

The New York Times wrote that Reagan projected 'faith in small town America' and 'old-time values'. Values, my ass. It was union busting and a declaration of war on the poor and anyone who couldn't buy designer dresses. It was the New Meanness, bringing starvation back to America so that every millionaire could get another million.

And then, in the White House basement he condoned a coup d'état against an elected Congress. Reagan's Defence Secretary, Casper Weinberger, with the crazed colonel, Ollie North, plotted to give guns to the Monster of the Mideast, Ayatollah Khomeini.

Reagan's boys called Jimmy Carter a weenie and a wuss, although Carter wouldn't give an inch to the Ayatollah. Reagan, with that film-fantasy tough-guy con in front of the cameras, went to Khomeini to plead on bended knee for the release of our hostages.

Ollie North flew to Iran with a birthday cake for the maniac - no kidding - in the shape of a key. The key to Ronnie's heart.

Then the Reagan roaches added crime to cowardice: taking cash from the hostage-takers to buy guns for the 'Contras' - the drug runners of Nicaragua posing as freedom fighters.

In Chaguitillo, all night long, farmers stayed awake to guard their children from attack by Reagan's Contra terrorists. The farmers weren't even Sandinistas, those 'commies' that our cracked-brained President told us were 'only a 48-hour drive from Texas'.

Nevertheless, the farmers and their families were Ronnie's targets. And I remember in the deserted darkness of Chaguitillo, a TV blared. Weirdly, it was that third-rate gangster movie Brother Rat. Starring Ronald Reagan. Well, my friends, you can rest easier tonight: the Rat is dead. From me, Ronald Reagan, goodbye and good riddance.



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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2004, 04:50:00 PM »

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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2004, 04:57:00 PM »

QUOTE (Intensecure @ Jun 13 2004, 06:01 AM)
Although few of you will care...

Now you're getting it. beerchug.gif
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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2004, 08:19:00 PM »

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Now you're getting it.

And I'm still having fun posting it...and you're still reading it laugh.gif
And there are undoubtedly more intelligent minds that don't feel the need to post little retorts wink.gif
But, at least you have a sense of humour beerchug.gif
As does the person who posted the cartoon; who is that masked man??
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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2004, 08:43:00 PM »

QUOTE (Intensecure @ Jun 14 2004, 05:19 AM)
And there are undoubtedly more intelligent minds that don't feel the need to post little retorts wink.gif

As there are those more intelligent minds that don't feel the need to waste their time making pointless false accusations, who go and DO things to make this world a better place, rather then complain endlessly. ohmy.gif
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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2004, 09:53:00 PM »

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false accusations

Truth hurts, does it?
Hundreds of thousands of people died in South America under the Reagan regime.
So maybe a sense of humour failure IS appropriate.
Go forth, and make the world a better place. love.gif
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« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2004, 10:26:00 PM »

OK
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