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[danthaman673]

QUOTE(The Minstrel @ May 31 2008, 03:28 AM)

Just tried what Willhelm said and no luck whatsoever.  Out of all the 360s I've fixed, this one is just refusing to work.  Maybe I'm just not putting enough pressure on the other RAM chips, I dunno, I've screwed everything down with two pennies.  Nothing.  Tried it with three pennies.  Nothing.  Three pennies stand about 1cm, so I've a feeling if I had another penny I'm going to do some damage.

Something interesting that I noticed which may or may not be helping this error is a slight chip taken out of the second RAM chip, which I will demonstrate with this funny looking MSPaint image.

http://img149.images...=ramchipjb9.png

I'm no electrician, so I'm not sure if there's a shell around the actual chip or not.

I'm at an end... any more ideas? =/

Electricians fix power-points and wire light-switches, they wouldn't have a clue (niether do most electronic technicians these days, fixing game-consoles is a very specialised area and most aren't willing to take the large amount of time to gain XP and learn, especially for such little pay)

That said: 0020  I have heard/read somewhere that this is the consoles way of telling you to stick it! (it can't detect what the issue is, I think it's possibly general low CPU or GPU power error) I think that's about right however in my XP It usually relates to two things: 1. Bridged Solder under GPU (Bad news, needs re-balling not often worth the effort these days) 2. Power issue (Check ur MOSFETs - If u know how, should really be done with a CRO ideally, can be done by desoldering with MM, but given their low-heat tolerance, it's often difficult to tell if u killed it on removal, many of their temp specs suggest they can be damaged before the solder melts!!) ALSO: Check ur Caps
3. If it's a Xenon and not a JTAG (or JTAG-able) then re-cycle it (this issue seems worse with Xenons, I haven't taken the time to find-out exactly what it is, but there seems to be a type of Xenon that will get this <usually after some noob removing the X-Clamp or some other dodgy internet 'fix'> Suffice to say it always coincides with torn warranty stickers or warranty stickers of those who should not be let near game-consoles

My advice: Take it to a professional and suggest they check the power system (MOSFETS and CAPS) after removing any dodgy RROD 'fix' crap and giving it a professional reflow. If ur lucky, they might have an X-Ray setup and can check the CPU and GPU properly.

Going by ur history: I would guess that where the RAM connects under the GPU is possibly shorted or open, if you did a very slow reflow (with proper equipment) of the GPU, (if that fails and ur still keen, GPU,RAM and CPU - the CPU especially if it's a Xenon) Paying special attention to mobo warping and prevention therof.

Hope this helps somebody.... Peace

[The Minstrel]

I was overjoyed when I saw that I noticed that my 0020 error code was replaced with 0110, thinking I was just a heat gun away from repair.  Turns out I wasn't.  I've tried everything that I can think of.  I replaced the thermal paste with AS5, X Clamp, pennies, towels, heat guns and even thought of getting a precision soldering iron so I could resolder the connections.

When it has worked it's been for a few hours and then RRoD'd again with the same error code.  I was thinking that perhaps the actual RAM chips are borked and that I should think about replacing them, but is that even possible?

Anybody have any ideas?  Isn't much I won't try right now.

[Wilhelm_I]

QUOTE(The Minstrel @ May 29 2008, 07:44 PM)  

I was overjoyed when I saw that I noticed that my 0020 error code was replaced with 0110, thinking I was just a heat gun away from repair.  Turns out I wasn't.  I've tried everything that I can think of.  I replaced the thermal paste with AS5, X Clamp, pennies, towels, heat guns and even thought of getting a precision soldering iron so I could resolder the connections.

When it has worked it's been for a few hours and then RRoD'd again with the same error code.  I was thinking that perhaps the actual RAM chips are borked and that I should think about replacing them, but is that even possible?

Anybody have any ideas?  Isn't much I won't try right now.

If you would have fucked the RAM up you would get 0020 I got a board that a noob heatgunned and he flattened the solder below it.
0110 is a cold solder joint below one of the RAM bricks, mostly the ones under the GPU heatsink.
So what will fix it usually is heatgunning the RAM but as you did this already...
Try to put 1 washer on each RAM under the heatsink so that it puts some pressure on it...
If this doesnt fix it it will most likely be one of the other RAM bricks.
Put pressure on each of them and start the 360 while doing that until the 360 boots properly
if you found the right one do some kind of penny trick for the ones under the mainboard or if it is one of the two in front of the GPU heatsink also get a stack of pennies and put it on the RAM then the drive will take it under pressure...
The most permanent solution is the heatgun though but be careful that you dont fuck it up like the dude I bought this mainboard from...

[DuBob4432]

i had the exact opposite fix (well so far).  a buddy gave me a rrod 360 that has been through hell to mess w/.  it started ok the first day after i mess w/ the gpu/cpu hs pressure, then did the rrod and 0110.  so i messed w/ different tensions on the ram chips w/ no luck.  about this time i was ready to call it quits, so i took off the white air tunnel and turned it on till i got the 2 blinking overheating lights.  tried to start it up in the case w/ different pressures and no go.  so i took the m/b out and put it on a flat, non conductive whiteboard, and presto, works like a charm.

i am now probably going to model up a new case and see how long this works.  also, i put on a 70x70x15 fan on the gpu and cpu hs and will be cuttting the gpu heatsink down a bit and put some ramsinks on the ram under that heatsink to get some air moving over them.  so far, so good, now on to modeling....

[The Minstrel]

Just tried what Willhelm said and no luck whatsoever.  Out of all the 360s I've fixed, this one is just refusing to work.  Maybe I'm just not putting enough pressure on the other RAM chips, I dunno, I've screwed everything down with two pennies.  Nothing.  Tried it with three pennies.  Nothing.  Three pennies stand about 1cm, so I've a feeling if I had another penny I'm going to do some damage.

Something interesting that I noticed which may or may not be helping this error is a slight chip taken out of the second RAM chip, which I will demonstrate with this funny looking MSPaint image.

http://img149.images...=ramchipjb9.png

I'm no electrician, so I'm not sure if there's a shell around the actual chip or not.

I'm at an end... any more ideas? =/

[Wilhelm_I]

QUOTE(The Minstrel @ May 30 2008, 08:34 PM)  

Just tried what Willhelm said and no luck whatsoever.  Out of all the 360s I've fixed, this one is just refusing to work.  Maybe I'm just not putting enough pressure on the other RAM chips, I dunno, I've screwed everything down with two pennies.  Nothing.  Tried it with three pennies.  Nothing.  Three pennies stand about 1cm, so I've a feeling if I had another penny I'm going to do some damage.

Something interesting that I noticed which may or may not be helping this error is a slight chip taken out of the second RAM chip, which I will demonstrate with this funny looking MSPaint image.

http://img149.images...=ramchipjb9.png

I'm no electrician, so I'm not sure if there's a shell around the actual chip or not.

I'm at an end... any more ideas? =/

This will be the solution for the problem mate
This wouldnt short anything out so it isnt 0020 but 0110 and below the piece that broke out are at least 2 solder balls.
If you know are planning to replace this one let me know I still got a mainboard that I use for spareparts so I could chip you one of the RAM bricks...
Replacing it would include reballing the whole thing though and it is NOT really worth it so I doubt that you want to do that...