Forgive me for the massive quoting, but it's the quickest way to give the background.
Basically, my "flagged" box now appears to have been "unflagged" by Microsoft. I'm not claiming this is a sure-fire thing by any means, I'm just reporting what I observed.
QUOTE(Cedru @ Nov 8 2009, 08:29 AM)
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My brother has an Arcade with a 20GB HD (that is not relevent) that was flagged on the support site. Wasn't banned yet, but still got the 54420 error code. He's got a BenQ Drive in there and had 1.61 installed on it. When he seen that error code, assuming he was Flagged but not yet banned, he reverted to his OFW. After switching back to his OFW, the mysterious inquiry sound was made on his drive (where it gets loud and spins fast.) while playing COD4 (his original.)
This morning, it is reported that he can now do a support (RROD) request and NOT get the 54420 error code.
I am not trying to initiate speculation here - just reporting something that MAY be relevant.
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 8 2009, 11:24 AM)
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That's the most interesting thing I've read in a good many pages of this thread.
Obviously, when a console receives a ban, there is a routine which runs on the 360. It could well be that this routine begins with some sort of "mod check" before invoking the ban. If that check returns "success" then it bans the console and returns the results, or if the check returns "fail" then it just returns results. If Microsoft has enough confidence in their "mod check" to ban consoles based on those results, it would be logical to put an equal level of confidence on those results and "unflag" consoles.
I (like many) have assumed thus far that there's no point reverting a modded console to stock firmware, based on the "if you're flagged, you can't stop it" theory. But the only ones who know how it works are Microsoft, and here is a case which indicates it may not be as we've all assumed. And if the 200+ pages of confusion are any indication, a good number of our assumptions to this point may well be wrong.
If you're getting the 54420 error but haven't been banned yet, why not flash back to stock firmware, drop in an original disc and sign into Live? I see no reason not to try it, unless you're just terribly afraid of losing the hard drive feature.
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That little brother story is interesting. Obviously there is the standard possibility that it is not a true story, either because someone is purposely lying or genuinely mistaken. I hope the guy keeps us updated.
QUOTE(Cedru @ Nov 8 2009, 12:15 PM)
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This is a true statement... I have no reason to post bs as I am very well into this whole ban thing and would like to see everyone that still has a chance to NOT get banned... i will keep updating, although posting about it every hour on the hour would be somewhat redundant.
I will definately post back the results of the Support page and his Live status on a daily basis, if that is what you are asking.
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 8 2009, 01:18 PM)
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You go here:
http://support.xbox.com/support/en/us/nxe/default.aspxRegister your console(s) and then try to submit a service request. If you get a form where you submit information about your repair, that's normal. If you get an error page and the URL references 54420, then all reports indicate your console has been flagged to be banned.
I've flashed my supposedly-flagged, 54420 BenQ console back to stock. It's connected to XBL with Rock Band 1 in the drive. No change yet.
QUOTE(realitybytes @ Nov 8 2009, 01:20 PM)
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This will be interesting to follow, I look forward to hearing your results.
QUOTE(zeppy218 @ Nov 8 2009, 01:21 PM)
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very interested in these results, please keep us updated and thanks for taking the risk.
QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 8 2009, 01:26 PM)
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Thanks, it's not much risk in my case. I haven't even had Gold for quite a while, don't care much about the hard drive feature either. And I've got another modded, unflagged (if that's what the 54420 really means) system which has literally never been powered on, sitting in a closet just in case I ever do care. (IMG:
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QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 8 2009, 10:28 PM)
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Figured I'd update you guys. It is still not banned, but the site still shows the 54420 error. I'm pretty sure its day is coming, it's just a matter of time.
After flashing back to stock, I played some RB1, TB:RB and LRB yesterday. I left my 360 running all night long, sitting at the dashboard with LRB in the drive. This morning I checked my online warranty status and I was able to submit a repair request for the box that previously gave me the 54420 error. This evening, I'm still online and still able to submit a repair request.
It could be a coincidence, but has anyone other than me and Cedru's brother seen the 54420 error go away? I really don't want to get everyone's hopes up for nothing.