Topic: Bad, Bad Vga Cable (Read 5124 times)

twistedsymphony · « **Reply #90 on:** January 30, 2006, 01:03:00 PM »

I wonder if it has something to do with the colorspace.

I know my projector has about 5 or 6 different options for colorspace, different ones respond different to the type of device I'm using it with... VGA typically looks best when it's set to "RGB"

Not sure how many devices let you fiddle with that but perhapse the VGA cable it set up to output in a particular colorspace and most monitors are setup to accecpt another.

redwolf · « **Reply #91 on:** January 30, 2006, 01:14:00 PM »

QUOTE

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i guess "John" don't know jack

the reply email is just a default "template", probably didn't even read my message or just passsing all the work to their phone department

plus, i told them i was from UK with a PAL Xbox 360, fucking noob gave me some US number

Foe-hammer · « **Reply #92 on:** January 30, 2006, 07:03:00 PM »

With no vga fix in the update, it doesn't look like we'll be seeing one any time soon, or ever, from MS. Pisses me off.

Nows the time for me to get a transcoder (x2vga2, or vd-z3) to compensate for MS's incompetance.

redwolf · « **Reply #93 on:** January 30, 2006, 08:20:00 PM »

QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Jan 31 2006, 04:10 AM)

With no vga fix in the update, it doesn't look like we'll be seeing one any time soon, or ever, from MS. Pisses me off.

if 10 Dutch people can make m$ update for their need, why can't they hear us

damn give us the dev kit, we can make better updates then that crap

zedaksis · « **Reply #94 on:** February 09, 2006, 01:59:00 PM »

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Kernal69er · « **Reply #95 on:** February 09, 2006, 08:11:00 PM »

Not sure what the problem is, I got the M$ VGA cables and don't see anything wrong, definetly looks better than component

Topey327 · « **Reply #96 on:** February 09, 2006, 08:31:00 PM »

I think i'm going to buy the vga cables tomorrow.. playing CoD2 veteran on the damn british campaign sucks since I can't see shit especially during the early parts of it.

washed out colors is better than an endless loop of deaths because I can't see whats shooting me!

jxt · « **Reply #97 on:** February 10, 2006, 02:22:00 AM »

Im using the 21" samsung syncmaster 1100p + and i did have that problem aswell,
after a while you kinda dont notice it so much,
but little things like that eat away at me so im running it through my x2vga and its fine now

Topey327 · « **Reply #98 on:** February 10, 2006, 02:55:00 PM »

Ok I bought the MS VGA cable today and hooked it up and it looks way better than component. I can finally see what I'm shooting at! My monitor is the gateway FPD2185W (native res @ 1680x1050), and when I switch it to 13xx resolution, I get a slight graininess compared to 1280x1024. Anyone have that problem?

anttimonty · « **Reply #99 on:** February 15, 2006, 03:18:00 PM »

Pump problem still not solved and I haven't got any replies from M$

Mick Garvey · « **Reply #100 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:36:00 PM »

Pump??

twistedsymphony · « **Reply #101 on:** February 16, 2006, 05:54:00 AM »

QUOTE(barabis @ Feb 16 2006, 04:11 AM)

1st of all let me say hi on my first post.

I'm about to buy a 360 and an HD tv to go with it and I'm quite concerned having read this topic. I'm also a bit confused, is it the case that theres no way to achieve an optimal HD output?

Is the component HD output too dark and the VGA HD output washes out the colours? Or does this only affect certain types of tvs?

Having read the thread it does seem that there seems to be a problem with VGA that MS refuses to recognise.

I dont mind spending extra on a tv to get the optimal HD output that the 360 promises.

The Component HD output's are great (better then the Xbox 1 component outputs IMO) it's just the VGA output that's washed out and only on certain monitors.

barabis · « **Reply #102 on:** February 16, 2006, 06:59:00 AM »

just found this on another site regarding vga and levels and possible cause of washed out look on vga on tvs & monitors

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http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3150065

Indeed, I'm one of the people who posted in that topic and has a 'DTV' setting.

Basically, I have an LG 26LX2R LCD HDTV, which accepts VGA through the DVI-I port. Both the DVI/VGA and HDMI port have separate 'PC' and 'DTV' modes. I'm not 100% sure what the actual difference is, I'm told they use a different colourspace and different amounts of overscan, but setting the port to 'PC' on anything but a PC results in a washed image, whereas DTV results in a correct image.

It's strange. My TV has a native resolution of 1366x768, so I planned to use the 1360x768 option and avoid upscaling. However, my TV detected this resolution as a PC resolution (even in DTV mode) and the results were a washed image. This also happened in 1280x768 and all other resolutions.

However. Setting my TV to DTV mode and sticking to 720p resulted in a correct image with no washed output whatsoever. VGA does seem a little lighter at first, but I reckon the Component output may be too dark. You can literally SEE more when using the VGA cable.

Anyway, anyone who has an LCD TV which lets them choose between PC and DTV mode (or it might be called 'AV' mode), either from the menu or via the service menu, should give it a go, and stick to 720p.
I reckon the washed output is caused by the TV taking the 360 output as a Pc output and using PC colourspace.

Foe-hammer · « **Reply #103 on:** February 16, 2006, 04:25:00 PM »

Another site?.....you linked to this exact same thread, just on an earlier page.

But good info, none the less.

prankfurter · « **Reply #104 on:** February 16, 2006, 05:56:00 PM »

QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Feb 16 2006, 07:32 PM)

Another site?.....you linked to this exact same thread, just on an earlier page.

But good info, none the less.

haha, made my day

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