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[Krozking]

Has anyone tried imaging the drive using a hardware imaging unit as opposed to using software like Ghost?
I have a hardware imager (Logicube Sonix) that will do 100% copies of just about anything. I have a feeling that this would work without a problem! Once the image is completed all that would be left would be to take the new drive and use partition magic to resize it. This is required because using the 100% function on the imager will make the new drive looks like it's a 20Gb drive even though it's really a 100Gb drive. I don't have an 360 yet but I will be getting one soon. When I do, I will try this and let you all know if it works....unless someone has tried it already.

[ImagineMicro]

OK... I've had this crazy ass idea for a few days now. I'm gonna throw it out there and see what kind of responses I get. I don't know if anyone has come up with this idea already so sorry if this has been discussed already. I'll start with the following assumption:

-- The xb360 boots up normally weather or not the dvd rom drive is hooked up via the SATA cable or not. All it needs is the DVD rom power cable to be hooked up. It doesn't care if the SATA cable is hooked up. So does this mean that the key is being read via the power cable?

Now my idea or question is whether or not it would be possible to hook up a SATA hard drive to the SATA DVD cable and have that hard drive emulate a DVD ROM drive using some sort of software or hacked xex file? When you close the actual DVD drive it reads the data from the hard drive. Say a 200 gig with a launcher or even a game executable?

I hope you undertstand what I am getting at. If not please ask.

[Dravor]

QUOTE(ImagineMicro @ Jan 9 2007, 08:23 PM)

OK... I've had this crazy ass idea for a few days now. I'm gonna throw it out there and see what kind of responses I get. I don't know if anyone has come up with this idea already so sorry if this has been discussed already. I'll start with the following assumption:

-- The xb360 boots up normally weather or not the dvd rom drive is hooked up via the SATA cable or not. All it needs is the DVD rom power cable to be hooked up. It doesn't care if the SATA cable is hooked up. So does this mean that the key is being read via the power cable?

Now my idea or question is whether or not it would be possible to hook up a SATA hard drive to the SATA DVD cable and have that hard drive emulate a DVD ROM drive using some sort of software or hacked xex file? When you close the actual DVD drive it reads the data from the hard drive. Say a 200 gig with a launcher or even a game executable?

I hope you undertstand what I am getting at. If not please ask.

Well, the harder thing I imagine would be that you'd have to make the hard drive look like a DVD drive in terms of checksum of the firmware as well.  You'd also need the launcher of some sort as well.  We can't currently even create an extended size drive until MS releases a bigger drive and we can see that image.  As good as MS has been in making this console hack proof for the most part <aside from our firmware flash hack>  I doubt it's a possibility until someone finds a way to hack the kernel.

[sincere360360]

A member of another know forum that I frequent is working on experiment
to get a non ms-hd to be recognize by  the 360. He's had succes faking the bios, changing the model number and serial number and also modding the sector count. That is everything that is needed to mod the HDD in order for the 360 to accept it.  It was on a ide drive so now he's waiting on sata drive that he ordered with the same chipset that he needs. If he is succesfull when he gets the other drive, he is going to realease a tool that he is going to create to automate the process. I would post link link but I'm not sure if it's allow.

[No_Name]

The post is on www.xboxhacker.net and yes it allowed

Another hack attempt from The Specalist which may lead somewhere.

[jaimebenlasnow]

QUOTE(No_Name @ Jan 16 2007, 03:57 PM)

The post is on www.xboxhacker.net and yes it allowed

Another hack attempt from The Specalist which may lead somewhere.

Sorry but this will not need somewhere it will just give people the chance to have any sata drive but the sata HDD would still look 20GB..It will not lead to homebrew and will just retard the homebrew scene another time!! just like dvd hacking did!!

[spicydeath82]

has any body replaced the stock drive in the case with an 2.5 inch laptop drive, then used the elite transfer cable on it? the one you get for free from microsoft to transfer all your data from you old hard drive to the newer larger one? just a thought.

[barthautala]

QUOTE(spicydeath82 @ Dec 3 2007, 02:34 AM)

has any body replaced the stock drive in the case with an 2.5 inch laptop drive, then used the elite transfer cable on it? the one you get for free from microsoft to transfer all your data from you old hard drive to the newer larger one? just a thought.

That wont work. Youre still not tricking the xbox into thinking its an original drive.

Im sure this information is hosted in the box itself in flash mem. I think maybe the xbox sends a message to the drive asking for the key everyone keeps talking about. So I think the only way to get a larger drive is to hack some file on the box AND decipher the difference betweens keys on the 20gb vs the 120gb and make an educated guess as to what the key would be for say a 220gb hdd and get those files onto the new hard drive. Follow?

Im positive that a new genuine 300gb hdd from MS wouldnt work on a 360 without an update from MS.

I dont quite have access to any of those files or Id hex compare them myself.

[Boobers]

QUOTE(InterestedHacker @ Dec 11 2005, 04:23 PM)

Sounds to me like there is no reason why that wouldn't work!  The problem people may have is resizing the default partition.

ie.  You backup a 20Gb drive, restore to a 300Gb drive, but the image is 20Gb, therefore 360 will format it to 20Gb...  Someone needs to work out the partition format, and if it's encrypted, that's going to be hard / impossible.

The problem I am running into with ACRONIS is that it won't clone a drive that it reads as EMPTY.

And, when I put on a fully functional XBOX 360 Drive on my Winblows XP workstation, it's reported as EMPTY in everything but Xplorer360


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[hiPotion]

How available are these 120GB BEVS drives? All are Scorpios this model or is there a difference?
I'm trying to order one through work but none of the suppliers state anything about BEVS.

EDIT: "WD1200BEVS", is this the correct model?

This post has been edited by hiPotion: Today, 04:48 AM

[X-hacker]

QUOTE(hiPotion @ May 31 2008, 04:41 AM)

How available are these 120GB BEVS drives? All are Scorpios this model or is there a difference?
I'm trying to order one through work but none of the suppliers state anything about BEVS.

EDIT: "WD1200BEVS", is this the correct model?

yeh, this is the right one

[d-2-d]

So from what I read you can't just pop in a new hard drive unless its from microsoft? This tottaly sucks becuase sata drives are soo cheap now and so large!!!! Correct me if i'm wrong please....

[xbox_mallia]

QUOTE(d-2-d @ Jun 4 2008, 11:56 PM)

So from what I read you can't just pop in a new hard drive unless its from microsoft? This tottaly sucks becuase sata drives are soo cheap now and so large!!!! Correct me if i'm wrong please....

unfortunately you are correct, however, you can use the specialists HDD tool and get a cheaper WD BEVS drive (WD1200BEVS for example), this would give you a 120GB drive much cheaper than from M$, however you'd still need a hdd enclosure or internalise it.



Just out of interest, has anyone tried conncting a sata drive (M$ or other) to the DVD drive sata cable ??
I cant afford a 360 hard drive at the moment, so cant try myself, might hook up a spare 80gb hdd to it just to see if it does anything at all, warrantys not that important  

First post in around about 6 months, good to be back  

[grimdoomer]

I haven't read all the posts hear, but I'll tell you this. On the 360 HDD there is the deviceId, serial number, and firmware version of that HDD. Then some generic data, then a 2048 bit RSA signature of all that. Im not sure yet, but I think only MS has the private key. I dont think the 360 would issue a new DeviceId when formatting, but I could be wrong. If someone could make a backup of their HDD then format and back up again, I could eassily tell you if we can sign HDD's or not. But I would assume we can't as MS would make sure there are'nt any 2 of the same deviceId's out there. I've been looking through the kernel and I haven't even found so much as a verification proccess on hard drives. This leads me to belive we cant sign HDD's and the verification proccess are stored in the hypervisior.

[raven_5x]

QUOTE(grimdoomer @ Jul 15 2008, 05:35 PM)

I haven't read all the posts hear, but I'll tell you this. On the 360 HDD there is the deviceId, serial number, and firmware version of that HDD. Then some generic data, then a 2048 bit RSA signature of all that. Im not sure yet, but I think only MS has the private key. I dont think the 360 would issue a new DeviceId when formatting, but I could be wrong. If someone could make a backup of their HDD then format and back up again, I could eassily tell you if we can sign HDD's or not. But I would assume we can't as MS would make sure there are'nt any 2 of the same deviceId's out there. I've been looking through the kernel and I haven't even found so much as a verification proccess on hard drives. This leads me to belive we cant sign HDD's and the verification proccess are stored in the hypervisior.

So does that mean that we can risk an XBL ban on our console/user after doing this upgrade???