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explizit

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« on: December 05, 2005, 10:38:00 AM »

Hi guys and gals,

Some days ago I found a very very thin ring on the undersite of my game DVD (PGR3). It's located at the inner part of the dvd, it's very very thin so you have to look for it very sharp!
Maybe this is a reason why the DVD laser can't read the data part. It reads the video part and then can't "jump" over the thin ring to read the data part.
What you think? I could take some pictures to prove it.

Regards,
Explizit
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KR4ZYMAN

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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2005, 11:23:00 AM »



Yep ive found the same thing on my "Condemned" disc. Its not on xbox 1 discs, may be of some interest...
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explizit

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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2005, 11:30:00 AM »

I wanted to put some tape on it like it works with those sony rootkit music CDs but I don't have any tape here :-(
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2005, 12:13:00 PM »

hey thats an interesting idea, post some pics and maybe we can all input some ideas, i wna t a  360
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explizit

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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2005, 02:44:00 PM »

Ok I took some photos of my DVD. It was very diffecult to take photos on which you can see the thin ring. Download them and view (and zoom) them with a tool like photoshop or some similar one. Don't use the windows own viewer, it "blows" up the pixels too much so you can't see the ring.
 
http://explizit.eqo.de/DSC03450_1.jpg (original)
http://explizit.eqo.de/DSC03455_1.jpg (original)
http://explizit.eqo....03455_1_inv.jpg (color inverted)
http://explizit.eqo.de/DSC03456_1.jpg (original)

Maybe the video part is not located before the ring, it could be the ring itself because video part is around 7MB big only.

If you have trouble to open them by clicking the link, try "Save to..."
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explizit

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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2005, 04:46:00 PM »

ph34r.gif  here again, I hope it works now, very weird.

http://explizit.eqo.de/DSC03450_1.jpg
http://explizit.eqo.de/DSC03455_1.jpg
http://explizit.eqo....03455_1_inv.jpg
http://explizit.eqo.de/DSC03456_1.jpg

Try "Save As" now, here it works. If it doesn't work for you, I'll upload it to another website.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2005, 08:45:00 AM »

QUOTE(maddy2005 @ Dec 6 2005, 12:39 AM) View Post

Explizit, have you tryed: putting some tape around the "hidden" circle and then try to run it on a normal pc ???


Well I just tried scotch tape, haha its all i could find, and its a no go....
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2005, 12:32:00 PM »

explizit can you please host those images anywhere else but that gay host?
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explizit

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2005, 05:12:00 PM »

That hoster isn't very reliable too. Damn, any suggestions for a better one which allows photos bigger than 2,5MB because I can't compress it more. Then you can't see the thin ring.
When I know a better one, I'll upload them again.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2005, 06:17:00 PM »

Get 'em to me and I'll host them up good for you.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2005, 01:12:00 AM »

QUOTE(sick_mate_xbox @ Dec 6 2005, 05:32 PM) View Post

either you have scratched the disc, OR

the media is copy-protected with "LockBlock" or "Ring PROTECH". both of which use visible circles on the surface of the CD/DVD to prevent copying.


Well that sounds very reasonable...
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explizit

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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2005, 05:33:00 PM »

QUOTE(sick_mate_xbox @ Dec 7 2005, 02:32 AM) View Post

either you have scratched the disc, OR

the media is copy-protected with "LockBlock" or "Ring PROTECH". both of which use visible circles on the surface of the CD/DVD to prevent copying.


I have not scratched them. I bought the game, opened the box and looked around the underside of the DVD. It's a ring used on old pc games to protect them to be copied (laserlok etc.)
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2005, 05:56:00 AM »

If this is a break in the data on the CD, wouldn't it be possible to do a raw dump on it and fill the blank, with some random dummy data?

Maybe then, we could start getting somewhere with the xbox360 file formats.
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2005, 10:43:00 AM »

According 2 me , it's a kind of composite format of DVD track and 360 track, internal track it's a normal dvd format, after: -leadout dvd- leadin 360 FS - 360 FS... right?

LukeZ
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