Topic: Organized Religion (Read 1184 times)

red.bull.x · « **Reply #180 on:** November 19, 2005, 02:10:00 PM »

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Right. So, Son of Sam is going to heaven and Ghandi is going to hell. blink.gif I just find it hard to believe something like that. That is not in ThrowingKsism.

hahaha

Nice!!!

lordvader129 · « **Reply #181 on:** November 19, 2005, 04:12:00 PM »

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******Catholic Purgatory*************

ah, i get it now, sorry for misreading you, lol

so whats your take on the dali lama?

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*******Demons vs Ghosts****************

i undertsand the distinction, im saying many religious folk, particularly more fundemental folk, would say ghosts (by that definition) do not exist, but are rather demons pretending to be the spirits of people and decieving us

i knew a guy in high school who believes UFOs are demons, lol

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*******Buddhism******

a good buddhist wouldnt worship buddha, i would say the ones that do are confused, lol, but then again im sure buddhism has a few denominations that disagree on the finer points of things too

divinity of buddha? well he would be considered one with nature, omnipresent, probably omniscient, but not omnipotent, divine in a way, but not a god

a "true" buddhist should be an athiest, not believing in any power above nature

yep, strange religion that, although id probably call it more of a philosophy than religion

throwingks · « **Reply #182 on:** November 19, 2005, 04:19:00 PM »

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That which is enclosed in iron and letter in a fish, Out will go one who will then make war, He will have his fleet well rowed by sea, Appearing near Latin land.

Some people believe that this quatrain seems to indicate that Nostradamus knew there would be submarines and metal warships in the future.

http://www.amuseyour...l-analysis.html

As a totally different argument. I have heard the word Elohiym is plural. Meaning God(s). I don't want to go off on a tangent yet. I just thought I would bring up something interesting. Although it does link a little to UFOs.
http://www.google.co... plural&spell=1
Raelism is based on this.
http://www.rael.org

throwingks · « **Reply #183 on:** November 19, 2005, 06:36:00 PM »

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 19 2005, 05:38 PM)

****Nostradamus*****

lordvader129 · « **Reply #184 on:** November 19, 2005, 07:27:00 PM »

QUOTE(throwingks @ Nov 19 2005, 06:43 PM)

And, he was vague because CATHOLICS would have chopped his head off if they understood what he was saying. Do more research.

throwingks · « **Reply #185 on:** November 19, 2005, 07:37:00 PM »

I agree he was vague, who cares. I was making the point that in his language submarine wasn't a word. So he said iron fish. Ezekial said fiery chariot not UFO.

Just a quick history lesson. Nostradamus was born Jewish. In England anything not Catholic was banned. You would be beheaded by order of the king if you were not Catholic. His mystical reading was deemed non-Catholic so he changed his writing style to use many different languages and word patterns within the same paragraph. So that noone would understand. As with the Bible stuff gets lost in translation. Even if his prophecies have been scrutinized it doesn't change the fact that while he was alive he was a doctor that cured many people during the plague with modern medicinal practices. Ok, enough about Nostradamus.

lordvader129 · « **Reply #186 on:** November 19, 2005, 08:58:00 PM »

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Born in Saint-Rémy-de-Provence in the south of France in December 1503, he was the son of a grain dealer who was also a prosperous home-grown notary. His family was originally Jewish, but had converted to Catholicism during the previous century.

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The quatrains, written in a book titled "Les Propheties", received a mixed reaction when they were published. Some people thought Nostradamus was a servant of evil, a fake, or insane, while many of the elite thought his quatrains were spiritually inspired prophecies. Soon nobility came from all over to receive horoscopes and advice from him

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Some biographical accounts of Nostradamus' life state that he was afraid of being persecuted for heresy by the Inquisition, but neither prophecy nor astrology fell under this bracket, and he would have been in danger only if he had practised magic to support them. In fact, his relations with the Church as a prophet and healer were always excellent.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Nostradamus

throwingks · « **Reply #187 on:** November 19, 2005, 09:41:00 PM »

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4. Didn't he write in code?

A. No, but he did leave the 'Centuries' in scrambled order, as well as
using deliberately obscure language in them to protect himself from
his more vociferous religious critics (most of them Protestants). This
involved using not only the various linguistic contortions normal in
sixteenth-century verse, but also a sprinkling of homonyms (i.e.
re-spellings) and a large number of imported Greek and Latin words -
to say nothing of Provençal. All this, too, was highly fashionable at
the time: Nostradamus merely pushed it to extremes.

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7. What did Nostradamus's contemporaries think of him?

A. The local Catholic peasantry viewed him with suspicion and (in an
age of almost apocalyptic religious warfare) thought he might be some
kind of Protestant. The Church was interested, though sometimes a
little suspicious. His books were avidly devoured by the reading
public (around 90% of whom could reportedly read at the time). The
Court, under Queen Catherine de Médicis, quickly became besotted with
him (especially - according to his son César some 55 years later ,at
least - after his apparently successful prediction at I.35 of her
husband the King's death in 1559), to the point where foreign
ambassadors were reporting home that it had become overcome by a kind
of Nostradamania and implying that this precluded all sensible
dialogue for the duration.

from Wiki link

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Feeling vulnerable to religious fanatics, however, he devised a method of obscuring his meaning by using word games and a mixture of languages such as Provençal, Greek, Latin and Italian.

lordvader129 · « **Reply #188 on:** November 19, 2005, 10:08:00 PM »

after all this time who knows what the facts were anymore, lol

throwingks · « **Reply #189 on:** November 19, 2005, 10:31:00 PM »

After all of this, all I wanted was puck to admit there could be such a thing as UFOs.

lordvader129 · « **Reply #190 on:** November 19, 2005, 11:44:00 PM »

QUOTE(throwingks @ Nov 19 2005, 10:38 PM)

ha

After all of this, all I wanted was puck to admit there could be such a thing as UFOs.

xmedia2004 · « **Reply #191 on:** November 20, 2005, 10:15:00 PM »

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 20 2005, 08:34 PM)

******UFOs***************

throwingks · « **Reply #192 on:** November 20, 2005, 10:50:00 PM »

Puck you don't read very well. My point about Nostradamus has nothing to do with his "fortune telling" it has to do with the language he used to do it. Related in the sense that "Fiery Chariot in the Sky" refers to UFOs. Same as Nostradamus's "Metal Fish" relates to submarines. I am saying, you believe in the Bible but not UFOs, that is contradictory. Ezekial described UFOs to a "T".

lordvader129 · « **Reply #193 on:** November 20, 2005, 11:41:00 PM »

QUOTE(throwingks @ Nov 20 2005, 10:57 PM)

Puck you don't read very well. My point about Nostradamus has nothing to do with his "fortune telling" it has to do with the language he used to do it. Related in the sense that "Fiery Chariot in the Sky" refers to UFOs. Same as Nostradamus's "Metal Fish" relates to submarines. I am saying, you believe in the Bible but not UFOs, that is contradictory. Ezekial described UFOs to a "T".

throwingks · « **Reply #194 on:** November 21, 2005, 08:12:00 AM »

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Nov 20 2005, 10:48 PM)

puck already admitted there are UFOs, and says he saw one, but im assuming by UFO you mean alien spacecraft, in which case anything (and everything) is debatable

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