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[gcskate27]

the army itself and many of its members arnt shit... but your kidding yourself if you think were fighting in iraq to keep our freedom...

[Banj]

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You obviously do not have any family or friends in the armed forces then, do you? I value the opinions of those men and women who have fought, and who are now fighting to keep this nation free a lot more then some child venting his frustrations on issues he does not fully understand. Give gratitude to those who have died for your freedom so you can bitch.

......typical patriot, blindly accepting the things done in his name.
Foe-Hammer, don't be ignorant, question and challenge the things that are done on your behalf. You may as well be under a dictatorship with a subservient attitude. Alternatively you can continue to put your fingers in your ears and go "la la la, not listening" just because you have members on your family murdering the 'have nots'. The Coalision Forces are not interested in your freedom and they certainly haven't liberated Iraq from anything other than safety and thier own freedom. They are acting on an agenda and freedom is nothing to do with it.

And for the record, I do have friends and family in the forces, doesn't mean I HAVE to support what they are doing. It's called cognitive process, give it a try.

[67thRaptorBull]

QUOTE (Foe-hammer @ Jun 29 2004, 11:41 AM)

You obviously do not have any family or friends in the armed forces then, do you?  I value the opinions of those men and women who have fought, and who are now fighting to keep this nation free a lot more then some child venting his frustrations on issues he does not fully understand.  Give gratitude to those who have died for your freedom so you can bitch.

i think the key word there was "who have fought"

as the last time i checked, the only real war that was to protect the american way was WWII, so.......why should i support the military when they havnt done anything greatful for america in how many years?

[Ween311]

How did this thread go from thoughts on Michael Moore's new film to whether the military is good or not.  I think that should be a topic for another thread.

[67thRaptorBull]

QUOTE (Ween311 @ Jun 30 2004, 08:31 AM)

How did this thread go from thoughts on Michael Moore's new film to whether the military is good or not.  I think that should be a topic for another thread.

agreed

[Master-Chief]

QUOTE (gcskate27 @ Jun 28 2004, 03:10 PM)

^ actually... "theres and old saying tennesse, well its an old saying in texas, im sure its in tennesse... 'fool me once, shame on... shame on... you? fool me twice...... well you cant get fooled two times...'"

Yup, that's it!  

And the North, South, West, and East one was also cracking me up!  

[FrontLineAssembly]

If you people enjoyed this, I suggest you see Triumph des Willens. A word of warning though, it is not for the weak minded. However, it is nice to see the film that revolutionized propaganda as we know it.

"Every nazi plane has a cross." - The Robot ate me.

[Foe-hammer]

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The Coalision Forces are not interested in your freedom and they certainly haven't liberated Iraq from anything other than safety and their own freedom. They are acting on an agenda and freedom is nothing to do with it.

Get a clue.  Some of you guys are so numbed into thinking of alternative motives, that you will make up shit or believe whatever comes your way that agrees with your idealology.  They removed the greatest weapon of mass destruction already: Sadam.  But by your view i'm sure you think he is a peace loving guy who was the perfect leader for iraq.  And that he should have remained dictator.  It is you who needs to pull your fingers out of your ears and wake up.

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why should i support the military when they haven’t done anything greatful for america in how many years?

Ya your right, they haven't done anything for you except keep your ass free so you can go on bitching relentlessly.  You honestly think if the US didn't have a powerful standing army that it would last?  Their presence and behind the scene activities is what keeps you all safe and carefree, free to complain to your hearts content.  Too many ungrateful people.

[gcskate27]

QUOTE (Foe-hammer @ Jun 30 2004, 01:08 PM)

They removed the greatest weapon of mass destruction already: Sadam.  But by your view i'm sure you think he is a peace loving guy who was the perfect leader for iraq.  And that he should have remained dictator.

so the US should just get rid of every countrys leader that they dont agree with? hell, why not? lets police the world and set up territories everywhere... then itd be like we owned the world! thatd be awesome!

[therebelious1]

   

[67thRaptorBull]

QUOTE (Foe-hammer @ Jun 30 2004, 12:08 PM)

Get a clue.  Some of you guys are so numbed into thinking of alternative motives, that you will make up shit or believe whatever comes your way that agrees with your idealology.  They removed the greatest weapon of mass destruction already: Sadam.  But by your view i'm sure you think he is a peace loving guy who was the perfect leader for iraq.  And that he should have remained dictator.  It is you who needs to pull your fingers out of your ears and wake up. Ya your right, they haven't done anything for you except keep your ass free so you can go on bitching relentlessly.  You honestly think if the US didn't have a powerful standing army that it would last?  Their presence and behind the scene activities is what keeps you all safe and carefree, free to complain to your hearts content.  Too many ungrateful people.

you....are.....an....idiot

the only reason the US would be gone NOWADAYS if we didnt have an army, is if we were attacked....by our selves??

what i mean is, the US is the only country in the world right now taking over any country it feels like. aka, the US is being a little bitch

so, like i said, wed be fine without the piece of shit army we have now, unless we attacked ourselves the way were attacking other countries. so i guess the solution is the US should bend over and take it up the ass......

[Foe-hammer]

QUOTE (67thRaptorBull @ Jun 30 2004, 07:51 PM)

you....are.....an....idiot the only reason the US would be gone NOWADAYS if we didnt have an army, is if we were attacked....by our selves?? what i mean is, the US is the only country in the world right now taking over any country it feels like. aka, the US is being a little bitch so, like i said, wed be fine without the piece of shit army we have now, unless we attacked ourselves the way were attacking other countries. so i guess the solution is the US should bend over and take it up the ass......

You are a child.  You think like a child, and act like a child.  

So if the US had no army, and some other army came and invaded, who the hell would stop them?  You?  You would be the one bending over and taking it.

[gronne]

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You are a child. You think like a child, and act like a child. So if the US had no army, and some other army came and invaded, who the hell would stop them? You? You would be the one bending over and taking it.

When was the last time a country declared war on USA? To be honest I don't know, perhaps WW2. And since WW2 you've fought in Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf war and the last one. None of those declared war on USA. So, I wonder, is your army really the reason you still have your freedom? In the end it will be the reason you won't have your freedom anymore. Your army is the reason WE don't feel any more freedom.

[67thRaptorBull]

QUOTE (Foe-hammer @ Jul 1 2004, 01:57 AM)

and some other army came and invaded, who the hell would stop them?

thats what im saying retard, how long has it been since a country declared war, or invaded the US......the War of 1812 (ie, british invaded the US), because in WWII  we declared war on Japan first, then they declared back

so, what has our army been fighting off for us the last 60 years?? o thats right, nothing.

the only country a threat to the US or any other country in the world is the US

[jp110099]

QUOTE (mirx999 @ Jun 18 2004, 03:27 PM)

While the guy pisses me off like crazy (he's a green, by the way),  He's a master of research.

Actually, he's admitted to being a Socialist, he is extrmely far left wing.