QUOTE(torne @ Jun 29 2006, 05:06 PM)
...he posted those in Feb, i.e. months ago, and hasn't been back since I explained to him why his idea was totally unfeasible (and illegal). So, there's really no point in replying to it...
I couldn't agree more Torne. NT AUTHORITY should be ignored. Replying would be a waste of ENERGY !!!
Oh dear God !!!
Anyway I wanted to see if you need any help Torne. My name is Bill Gates and well, you see I was reading this thread somewhere sometime somehow which goes a little something like this:
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It's not neccecary to make it that complicated, really. Either port ReactOS and forget about MS Windows altogether, or do the hacks I have outlined in this thread to get a native Windows kernel running.
Incidentally, the differences between the Xbox and a regular PC are much less than the differences between an Intel-based Mac and a regular PC - but both the xponmac team, and Apple themselves, have managed to get XP to boot on the Intel Macs. A similar approach to xom for the Xbox would actually be quite interesting; it wouldn't be *completely* impossible to write an Xbox executable that could function as a simulacrum of a PC real-mode bios (though this would have to be a freestanding executable that ran as if it were a BIOS and accessed the hardware directly, because it's not viable to call the Xbox's kernel services from real mode). That would get you quite far with booting NT.. though it's a toss-up as to whether that'd be more or less work than just hacking up the NTLDR boot process as I already described. (PC BIOSes are hard, mmkay).
And I started to think...
I agree with the first statement here: IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO MAKE IT ALL THAT COMPLICATED. (Getting Windows to Run on my XBOX). In respect to the EITHER PORT REACTOS AND FORGET ABOUT MS WINDOWS ALTOGETHER all I can say is this: use all resources available to you: SCIENTIA EST POTENTIA.
Those intelligent enough to decrypt such I am sure will tie me up to more conspiracies such as the NSAKEY in CRYPT32/ADVAPI32 DLLs but who knows
DARPA did invent the internet didn't it
Or was that I
Anyway, to continue:
"Incidentally, the differences between the Xbox and a regular PC are much less than the differences between an Intel-based Mac and a regular PC - but both the xponmac team, and Apple themselves, have managed to get XP to boot on the Intel Macs."
For heaven's sake: ANYONE CAN GET ANYTHING TO BOOT OF ANYTHING WITH MONEY !!! Even that xbox-scene user NT AUTHORITY who made some very bizzare posts in this thread (I agree with you Torne and thanks for telling him/her off for trying to use my source and reminding him/her such an operation was/is ILLEGAL) could (believe it or not) get Windows up on running on the XBOX and IN THE EXACT WAY HE/SHE DESCRIBED in his/her posts AS LONG AS HE/SHE HAD MONEY !!! All NT AUTHORITY or anyone else for that matter would have to do is get a $100,000 or so and PAY people like Torne and other professionals who have had the privilege of seeing full Windows Source to BREACH their NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS and BUILD XBOX FOR WINDOWS.
Now to the POINT:
"A similar approach to xom for the Xbox would actually be quite interesting; it wouldn't be *completely* impossible to write an Xbox executable that could function as a simulacrum of a PC real-mode bios (though this would have to be a freestanding executable that ran as if it were a BIOS and accessed the hardware directly, because it's not viable to call the Xbox's kernel services from real mode)."
It most certianly would NOT be completely impossible to write a DEFAULT.XBE that functions as a simulacrum of a PC real-mode BIOS and THIS IS THE ONLY WAY ANYONE WILL GET WINDOWS ON THE XBOX PERIOD; one smart cookie (or team of you lot on this forum) simply need to get together and write this executable to simulate a PC BIOS to the degree "That would get you quite far with booting NT.."
That is the Bill Gates and MS APPROVED solution.
in respect to the dilemma:
... " though it's a toss-up as to whether that'd be more or less work than just hacking up the NTLDR boot process as I already described. (PC BIOSes are hard, mmkay). "
Bill Gates says this:
PC BIOSes are hard, mmkay, but for those of you who know Occam's Razor, hacking up the NTLDR boot
proces as I already pasted above is not THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE:
Windows and it's CLEAN (non-hacked-up-proper-NTLDR-out-of-box) is what is released to manufacture: logic thus tells us that if a PC BIOS simulacrum DEFAULT.XBE can "trick" NTLDR into thinking it is running on a PC and receive the correct responses to enumerate hardware and create the registry and initialize the kernel and start loading devices then NO MESSY HACKING AND REVERSE ENGINEERING OF BOOT LOADERS is required: creating a simply DEFAULT.XBE simulacrum BIOS is OBVIOUSLY the only solution.
Then you can just run Windows as if it was meant to run on an XBOX from day zero.
My god, when I first designed the XBOX and added in the dummy boot loader in the TSOP as a throw-off I thought people would immediately click that the KEY TO IT ALL is creating a simulacrum BIOS.
Just KISS (Keep it simple stupid) and remember what BIOS stands for:
BASIC INPUT OUTPUT SYSTEM.
If someone does not have Windows on the Xbox within 3 months of me posting this thread here I swear god I AM GOING TO COMMIT SUICIDE !!!
What do you need to do other than create a BIOS default.xbe to get Windows on XBOX
NOTHING