Post by: SHiZNO on May 20, 2005, 10:34:00 PM
features:
Game is 3D
Import more characters
Import custom levels
Sf2/EX grade fighting engine (no tekken button mash 10 string combos)
Import more characters
Import more characters!!!
Sooo anyway, the model format is all open so anyone can make their own characters, define its special moves, and import it into the game easily...so you can see the potential in this game if people out there contribute.
The game is obviously still VERY early in dev, but we already have it up and running, playable too I guess. As you can see from the screenshot we havent got time for any graphical work ATM but if there are any artists out there who want to contribute we NEED people who can model, draw textures (for models, HUD, menus etc) ...fuck we need people from all areas really...sound..music... if you feel you can offer us something come tell us (#a-shock on efnet or find our X-S forum)
Heres a screenshot of the game currently running, obviously its pretty fugly atm so if you can do better come help us out
Post by: law56ker on May 21, 2005, 02:11:00 AM
Post by: vicviper74 on May 21, 2005, 07:30:00 AM
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Post by: dcware on May 21, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
Sound effects are my specialty, but I can provide some rock music. I can also use photoshop pretty good, so menus and things could be created.
DCWare,
Post by: tNCecil on May 21, 2005, 11:05:00 AM
Post by: AntMan3DFX on May 21, 2005, 12:23:00 PM
Let me know what formats U need , how many Polys
Max and any other technical info. and I will get on it.
Post by: SHiZNO on May 21, 2005, 01:15:00 PM
Post by: chedabob on May 21, 2005, 01:15:00 PM
id be willing to help out with levels. id be able to beta test as well (soon as i get ma xbox fixed which will be in a few days).i could probably help with the music aswell ( my mate could aswell because he is great at using multi track sequencers and stuff).
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Post by: total_ass on May 21, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
sadly there's not really anything i can do to contribute
but i will enjoy it when its released rest assured.
Post by: tNCecil on May 21, 2005, 02:23:00 PM
That how stripped down you want it?
You can get a hold of my on aim @ Borman18, but i may be out part of the night
Post by: Rickz0rz on May 21, 2005, 04:23:00 PM
Post by: tNCecil on May 21, 2005, 04:57:00 PM
Post by: SHiZNO on May 21, 2005, 05:22:00 PM
Rickz0rz can you make that with no face in it and no colored bar?
maybe i should make a the GUI skinable
Post by: Rickz0rz on May 21, 2005, 05:56:00 PM
Overlay with holes for images
Overlay without holes
This post has been edited by Rickz0rz: May 22 2005, 12:58 AM
Post by: knepley on May 21, 2005, 06:24:00 PM
The exporter uses the underscore character, "_" , to know when objects are duplicated in the scene. So if you want say, multiple copies of the same rock, you make Rock_01, Rock, Rock_2345 and only Rock.bin will be exported and all the <object> instances in the XML file will point at Rock.bin .
Bump mapping should be supported in the future if there's a stage that looks much better with it on. Animation is another posibility, constant rotations or objects that travel around a spline path are do-able.
I would try to keep the total texture usage under 10 megs (uncompressed, no penalty for reusing textures from another object) .
Polycount can be fairly high, but I'm not sure if you even need to make two sided areas since the camera does not change rotation yet.
Post by: Rickz0rz on May 21, 2005, 06:36:00 PM
Post by: SHiZNO on May 21, 2005, 07:26:00 PM
Post by: Rickz0rz on May 21, 2005, 07:29:00 PM
http://rick.binrecycle.com/af_t.png
Also, the FREDDY and SONIC were done in Arial Narrow (Bolded, 10pt./~7px), stretched horizontally 200%, with a black outline of 2 pixels. :)
This post has been edited by Rickz0rz: May 22 2005, 02:35 AM
Post by: mustafa on May 21, 2005, 07:49:00 PM
i also cannot do anything to contribute but i guess i could serve as a tester.
Post by: netdroid9 on May 21, 2005, 08:18:00 PM
Post by: knepley on May 22, 2005, 02:19:00 AM
Post by: blaize on May 22, 2005, 03:06:00 AM
maybe realesing a model so we can work with that a little ?
i must say that this idea sounds pretty cool, with the right people it can be pretty awesome.
i havent seen any real shadows in your games, but is it possible to add maybe cell-shading to this game ?
if you have it on the characters the the rest of the lvel doesnt need it, texture can provide the cartoon look.
I'm a prety good modeler so if the model format is good i'll make some models for this game.
here's a small example of what i can do:
http://img233.echo.cx/my.php?image=ff3done1nr6mx.jpg
This post has been edited by blaize: May 22 2005, 10:13 AM
Post by: OliG on May 22, 2005, 03:11:00 AM
Let me know if you need any,
OliG
Post by: wisefire on May 22, 2005, 07:21:00 AM
as for sound im pretty good with that.. but unless you need more people working on sfx, ill leave it to dc ware..
i can also master all the trax, so it would sound good ingame etc..
greetz,
wisefire
Post by: x_raided805 on May 22, 2005, 09:08:00 AM
Post by: Ed_209 on May 22, 2005, 11:16:00 AM
Also, since this is a street fighter inspired game (wise choice), I would LOVE to see a "dramatic battle" mode where we can have one player versus two players at once! Or even have a two on two mode for the heck of it even.
Another idea that I would highly recommend would to code in a "alpha meter", so everyone could have one or two alpha-special moves (down, forward, down, forward, A for example).
More things to consider is to be able to use the digital pad OR the analog stick to perform moves, and also have an option screen to change the button layout, infinite timer (for practice), and an audio section to choose in-game music, or xbox dashboard music.
And to make this game idiot-friendly so everyone can enjoy this game, maybe setup a server so people can download new characters directly into their xbox in-game with no computer ftp-ing needed! Have a website dedicated to hosting new fighters, music, and skins for the menus/healthbars!
having the game system-linkable might sound silly to some, but it could be fun for tournaments on x-link and maybe even add headset support (using avalaunches code). Heck doing dramatic battle link up would be kinda neat also.
Also, would be great if you can have a "moves list" section so when you pause the game, you can read up on all of the special moves conveniently without having to do a search on google for the moves etc.
Sorry if I am over-flooding with ideas here, I am just a big street figher fan, and this project definitely got my attention. I would love to help out with developing a fighter for this game, just let me know what tools I need and I'll read up on it!
Post by: UberJim on May 22, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
Post by: warzan on May 22, 2005, 12:51:00 PM
We could maybe help out with Stages, Characters and Textures etc
Can you handle stuff done in lightwave?
Also need a little bit of info to get us started like do's and dont's.
Post by: crispwarez on May 22, 2005, 02:40:00 PM
if u give specs i can get him to knock a few chars up
if u release a modle even i can edit it lol
i made alot of kernel bashers logos in 3ds
im good at making goodpictures within stupid limits lol
Post by: knepley on May 22, 2005, 02:14:00 PM
http://prdownloads.s....0.zip?download
is the exporter we're using right now.
Post by: blaize on May 22, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
how about uploading a pre-made model for the people that want to give it a go ?
Post by: big_xbox_n00bie on May 22, 2005, 04:15:00 PM
Thinking up more ideas for now.
-BxN
Post by: SHiZNO on May 22, 2005, 04:44:00 PM
Post by: Juganawt on May 22, 2005, 05:57:00 PM
I'm only a novice when it comes to 3DSMax, but can you support Zbrush2 files? I think they can be exported to 3DSMax compatible filenames.
Post by: evil_marty on May 22, 2005, 06:10:00 PM
Post by: ultimaweapon on May 22, 2005, 06:20:00 PM
There is my go at it. If you want I could incorperate images,make font larger/outlined/etc.
Post by: cam_cow88 on May 22, 2005, 08:34:00 PM
Post by: SHiZNO on May 22, 2005, 09:38:00 PM
Post by: Lightsier on May 23, 2005, 02:46:00 PM
I'm interested in helping to, I got some modeling skills with Maya, my texturing skills could use more work, but I'm learning.
Post by: Demonhawk on May 23, 2005, 11:12:00 PM
Oh yes, and i can model quite a few maps for you if you'd like, but you would have to give me ideas, and a few sketches of what you want.. i lack the creativty gene
. Also i need the specifications on about how wide a lvl should be and all*edit Also, all the textures for that map were made in MSPAINT.. Tehee
Post by: netdroid9 on May 24, 2005, 06:53:00 AM
QUOTE(knepley @ May 22 2005, 06:54 PM)
No system link (Xlink) for this one. Its not that I can't code two sockets throwing UDP packets, its that it needs a good network layer that allows for good concurrency. Fighting games don't work so well when both players have 100+ m/s pings. Could code it so that it was actually for system link only, but you might as well just play on the same xbox.
Technically, Xlink was designed for things that weren't designed for systemlink
...
Post by: cam_cow88 on May 24, 2005, 08:54:00 AM
Post by: akram on May 24, 2005, 10:16:00 AM
Post by: OmegaRedIsDMan on May 24, 2005, 10:54:00 AM
Thanks
-DMan-
Post by: sage.studios on May 24, 2005, 02:01:00 PM
I think it it would be fantastic if you could include some netcode in this - imagine playing in a 50 player tournament using a character you created yourself.
I understand the latency issues but it would be a shame if you didn't try.
Also, could you possibly make the game cell shaded? That would be a nice style.
Post by: x_raided805 on May 24, 2005, 05:21:00 PM
a few fighters is would b cool or funny to see:
1. The Rock
2. Austin Powers
3. Fat Bastard
4. Dr Evil
5. MC Hammer
6. Anna Nicole Smith
7. Paris Hilton
lol, sorry. just random thoughts. but my final idea is. it would b awesome to have voice overs if you could add those. for example. when Austin Powers did something, a sound clip from the movie would play and be like "yeah baby" or "oh behave". lol. sorry if i'm bombarding the forum or you guys with ideas n crap. just thought this might give you all some cool ideas.
Post by: SHiZNO on May 25, 2005, 05:52:00 PM
Post by: Shinn on May 26, 2005, 12:36:00 AM
. I'm interested in modeling some environments for you in 3dsmax, I just need to know the dimensions, like size of the level allowed, for example the main stage is 20x20 feet etc and poly counts that I'm allowed and also how I should export the textures for the level.thx
Post by: PID on May 27, 2005, 05:42:00 AM
What units/scale are you working in, in max for arenas?
Is there(or can there be) a fly into the arenas at start of fight. Or do you intend for a 3d looking 2d fighter (kinda always side on) ??
Do I make a full 3d scene, complete with skybox, ground etc. Or is it map tricks, so looks 3dish ?
Are there a set amount of poses per character, are the poses keyframed, or will the mesh simply jump to that pose ?
Do I just animate a set of moves in one .max file with character studio (Like a kata), or are they needed in separate files?
Max poly counts and max map sizes too..
I figure, minimum of 2 maps per charcter, so ppl can make new clothes without changing the heads for instance. Maybe that could apply to models too, so people can swap heads/hands/feet/torso etc etc... just a thought. (I assume grouped meshes will work too)
What a great concpet guys............ Hope I can help.....
I have this... She needs cleaning up, but maybe could be set as the base template for ppl for things like scale etc, if is suitable I will rig. She is around 2000 polys as is. could simplify easily (I started on the head as you can see, excuse the pink catsuit
she will be a robotic ninja soon)
I have a few high poly's I been working on for fun too, if anyone wants to maybe try some fmv, is that an option???
Post by: PID on May 27, 2005, 05:58:00 AM
It should tile both ways, but I haven't tested yet.
I think once we have base templates for maps and meshes, this place will be awash with mods for em.
Maybe a thread just for maps, and another for chracters/arenas is the go..... I can see this getting out of hand. LOL.
the .bmp is there as well, just replace the extention in your browser address, these forums don't like .bmp
Post by: Rikrok on May 27, 2005, 09:09:00 AM
If you do like it and want to use it I can always make it shorter if needed, it doesn't fully kick in till about 2 minutes in.
http://www.runhouserecords.com/Street%20Fighter%20Guile%20-%20Rikrok.mp3
Post by: SHiZNO on May 29, 2005, 03:53:00 PM
2 very good artists have stepped up and modeled some great shit... our Ryu, Ken and new Freddy look amazing.
For anyone wanting to start modeling you should use 3DS MAX.... the height of the players in max is done using 1 unit = 1 inch...so the average fighter should be about 70 units high.
Animation is done using a Biped (character studio) applying the Physique modifier to the mesh... (more details on animation will be released soon when the animation list is finalized)... so for now just model your wanted character. (Come to #a-shock on efnet and tell me what you want to work on, so everyone doesnt go model Goku and find out it was a waste when we have 50 of him heh)
The level design is still being finalized, acidbath has come forward with a design so i'll just work with him until we decide on how the level format will work then details will be released.
The fighting engine itself is coming along nicely.
Post by: chedabob on June 02, 2005, 02:18:00 PM
heres a quick mockup for a menu . its really basic. i couldnt think of anything else to put. if you post some ideas ill add them soon.
Post by: mecca on June 08, 2005, 03:56:00 AM
Post by: PID on June 09, 2005, 06:16:00 AM
The scene is 650x650x170 Generic Max untis.
Post by: vicviper74 on August 10, 2005, 09:05:00 PM
Post by: knepley on August 18, 2005, 03:39:00 AM
Shiznos PC died once again. Looks like all the source and art is safe though. Got a new power supply shipped to him and he'll probably get some more parts next week.
The AI is in place, it plays pretty well if not a little cheap.
There's XML config files for most stuff so balancing is a little easier, also fun to create special moves by jamming the code for two of them together just in the XML. Multifireball spin kick was one that shizno hacked on.
I'd say the game is much farther along than the other unfinished projects ever were. Shizno will get it rls'd sometime.
Post by: vicviper74 on August 18, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
Post by: Juganawt on September 08, 2005, 03:24:00 PM
If you need any additional GFX help, i'd be more than happy to contribute.
Post by: SHiZNO on September 09, 2005, 12:06:00 AM
yeah i need some more artists
come to #a-shock on EFNET
Post by: corkinator on September 10, 2005, 03:41:00 PM
QUOTE(Juganawt @ Sep 8 2005, 11:35 PM)
Dunno if you've decided on power bars yet, but here's my take on them.
If you need any additional GFX help, i'd be more than happy to contribute.
If you need any additional GFX help, i'd be more than happy to contribute.
Looks good but I'm sure they would rather original stuff and not graphics taken from free web template sites. I came across them years ago when first looking for help to make a website.
Post by: PENiX on September 11, 2005, 10:07:00 PM
Possible coincidence?
Good luck with this project, i'll definitely give it a shot once its released.
Post by: vicviper74 on September 13, 2005, 02:52:00 PM
I just want to note Streetfighter Alpha 1 Is the best of em all.
Also do you have a list of characters?? Not including secrets ones.
what game modes will there be?
Will there be a two on two function? Or tag battle?
Will there be keayboard and mouse support
just kidding (making fun of Quake three thread) 
Post by: SHiZNO on September 17, 2005, 02:48:00 PM
seeing some MUGEN movies has inspired me to improve it a lot more
Post by: SHiZNO on September 17, 2005, 03:29:00 PM
QUOTE(vicviper74 @ Sep 13 2005, 09:27 PM)
Hey Shinzo was I correct in thinking the combo system was going to be like street fighter? are you gonna give it a alpha combo which is a chain of buttons weak medium and hard then special. maybe with super cancels?? Also if you are planning that kinda of combo system (which is cool by me) are you going to limit the damage of the combo after a cirtain amount of hits like after 5 hits lower damage of hit there after..
I just want to note Streetfighter Alpha 1 Is the best of em all.
Also do you have a list of characters?? Not including secrets ones.
what game modes will there be?
Will there be a two on two function? Or tag battle?
Will there be keayboard and mouse support
just kidding (making fun of Quake three thread)
I just want to note Streetfighter Alpha 1 Is the best of em all.
Also do you have a list of characters?? Not including secrets ones.
what game modes will there be?
Will there be a two on two function? Or tag battle?
Will there be keayboard and mouse support
just kidding (making fun of Quake three thread) ATM it plays exactly like street fighter 2, only with 3d background/characters...
i have yet to implement supers, but it should be just like EX, with super cancels/combine them etc...
2 on 1 and 2 on 2 would be nice huh
as for characters im not sure who will ship with the game...but atm i have Vegeta, Ryu, Ken, Freddy, Wolverine all fully playable.... Vegeta and Wolverine look awesome (modeled by the great Antman_3d)
Post by: vicviper74 on September 18, 2005, 12:52:00 PM
BTW, I was bored so I went to your site and saw a new screenshot . well it was new to me. cause i never seen it. dont worry i didnt hot link to it i hosted it on image shack not to ruin your bandwith
pretty cool looking
if shit dont show here is a direct link
http://img74.** Pics Spammed From this Source **/img74/9397/ryuvsryu14vv.jpg
Post by: vicviper74 on September 18, 2005, 12:27:00 PM
ok the link sucks ass why wont it post correctly??
http://aftershock.xb...e=news&count=10
fuck it just go to their site
Post by: shakunetsu on October 17, 2005, 04:35:00 AM
is this a fighting game engine like mugen(2D)?
lots of people wants to create there own street fighter in 3d
lots of people love street fighter but capcom failed to release new sf games (sf4/battle of the past)all ended up as rumors
others want an original sf 2 remake in 3d
could u download the it?
Post by: vicviper74 on October 27, 2005, 07:02:00 PM
Post by: SHiZNO on October 27, 2005, 09:00:00 PM
Post by: vicviper74 on October 28, 2005, 06:52:00 AM
Post by: SHiZNO on November 17, 2005, 11:07:00 AM
no new public screenshots yet
Post by: vicviper74 on November 17, 2005, 07:58:00 PM
Just throwing it out there. Believe me i dont care what you do if it plays like sf series. its all good to me
Post by: akram on November 27, 2005, 01:43:00 PM
there are 2 models i have made this afternoon in the job Xd
Models photos
These are very simples but thats the only thing i can do here, this 2 models have animations.
i could do things much better but thats the only photos i have here at work U_U, im modeling a mazinger z robot i could put some photos of him if you want Xd.
Post by: SHiZNO on December 03, 2005, 05:23:00 PM
Post by: the_Watchers_eye on December 14, 2005, 11:32:00 AM
2ndly would like to offer my help if its required.... I am a proffesional games tester [tested games for the xbox 360] so can help you with bug reporting, and secondly can help in the sound/music department....
simply send me a PM.... also if you need help on any other games that you are working on then again just PM me....
Post by: vicviper74 on December 21, 2005, 11:53:00 AM
for some wrong doings. Now im thirty days older and a hellofalot wiser. No more ftp crap for me 
lol anywho the reason I'm posting is i saw a few screen shots of a first person shooter Wha is that game? cause I was about to be a happy camper thinking it was on xbox. but more thank likely its a Couter strike source. So put the gun to my head 
and fire away and destroy all my dreams of a homebrew FPS ONLINE MULTIPLAYER
Post by: SHiZNO on January 14, 2006, 11:36:00 AM
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Post by: LTstab on August 08, 2006, 01:32:00 AM
so if any of u can give me a hand i would be forever greatefull. email me at [email protected] and or
[email protected]
thanks
Post by: Odb718 on August 10, 2006, 10:33:00 AM
Get 3DS max 7 and learn how to UVW map. You can read this tutorial. The pics have been lost to the AOL internets god, but there might be some usefull info for ya.
Otherwise google uvw map tutorials for 3DS. I found one with a shark that helped me out a lot.
*found it. Here's the link.
As it stands now, fighter needs to have only one image for the entire texture job. It's kinda hard at first but once you do it more and more it gets easier.
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Post by: Pulsemasta on March 11, 2010, 02:40:00 AM
If any Aftershock devs are still around and reading this, would it be possible for you to release the source code to this project?? It seemed to have a lot of promise. Hope this reaches someone.