Post by: daryasys on February 02, 2009, 12:59:00 AM
(IMG:http://amigasys.extra.hu/xboxmini.jpg)
With a bit of delay, but finally arrived the AmigaSYS 4 - Xbox version.
The Xbox version is based fully on the AGA version, with several updates, news, and a whole new outfit, with some new Xbox extra.
In the AmigaSYS 4 series, the following version is the XBOX, and because of this, we used the new stuffs there first, for example the totally redesigned installers, (the 2 disked install (can be installed without disk swapping) ), even better program configurations, better compatibility and better handle.
Now, the language support increased from 5 to 6, the french language support is finally done, wich is implemented into the XBOX version first...
more infos, pictures:
http://amigasys.extra.hu
Post by: Cyborg17 on February 02, 2009, 03:34:00 AM
I can't wait to try this.
Thank you for the hard work.
Post by: DZIAD on February 02, 2009, 06:47:00 AM
Thank you for all the hard work you have put into it.
Post by: guajolote on February 04, 2009, 07:15:00 AM
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Post by: guajolote on February 25, 2009, 03:23:00 AM
Post by: ressurectionx on February 25, 2009, 04:01:00 AM
Post by: Bomb Bloke on February 25, 2009, 05:41:00 AM
Post by: ressurectionx on February 25, 2009, 05:50:00 AM
A contender for the Xtras (if it even needs the treatment), if I can ever figure out how to work it. Sounds like the dirty work is already done though.
Thanks BB,
~Rx
Post by: ressurectionx on February 26, 2009, 06:11:00 PM
Thanks,
~Rx
Post by: waal on February 27, 2009, 08:34:00 AM
I set my config with Winuae windows and uploaded the result, though. It was easier to copy WHDload games with a mouse/keyboard. In my configuration, I use the Amigasys plus an additional HDF I build for games only.
Please notice that there is a good frontend named KGLoad (still beta). It's designed for winuae and real amigas and should work on xbox.
(IMG:http://e.imagehost.org/0572/015.png)
This post has been edited by waal: Feb 27 2009, 04:35 PM
Post by: ressurectionx on February 27, 2009, 08:48:00 AM
I gotta try this. I think I'll devote some time to it this weekend and see if I come up with anything.
Thanks waal,
~Rx
Post by: waal on February 27, 2009, 09:21:00 AM
Yes, KGLoad is an amiga program. So the display will be the same on any system that hosts an emulator. Currently, what you see is the Amiga AGA version (256 colors). So the screenshots must have indexed palettes.
Let me know, if you want to learn more on Commodore Amiga. I spent a whole month setting a complete environment.
This post has been edited by waal: Feb 27 2009, 05:22 PM
Post by: bigby on February 27, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: waal on March 01, 2009, 08:23:00 AM
Better use AmigaSys 4 which is already set and includes iGame, a game browser.
Post by: neil222 on March 01, 2009, 11:04:00 AM
QUOTE(waal @ Feb 27 2009, 05:10 PM) 
First you have to get the original workbench 3.0/3.1/3.9 disks because they are copyrighted.
Where do you get workbench from these days? Didn't think they still made it.
Good old Amiga days...god bless em'
Post by: madmab on March 01, 2009, 06:21:00 PM
Post by: neil222 on March 01, 2009, 07:09:00 PM
QUOTE(waal @ Mar 2 2009, 02:27 AM)
Thanks man, I'll check it out now.
Post by: ressurectionx on March 02, 2009, 07:59:00 AM
I got everything set up according to the instructions, but I seem to be having problems.
The screenshots are in the right place, because when I higlight 'AmigaSYS4XBOX.hdf" in the games folder I get the screenshots to show up. I assume the saves are in the right place, but I never get a chance to use them so I'm not sure (E:\SAVES\WINUAEX\AmigaSYS4XBOX)
I put AmigaSYS4XBOX.hdf, HD Games 1.hdf and HD Games 2.hdf all in the D:\AMIGADISKS\HDF folder.
I select AmigaSYS4XBOX.hdf and the screen goes black. I can exit out of it, but it just sits there at a black screen.
Any ideas?
~Rx
Post by: ressurectionx on March 02, 2009, 10:18:00 AM
Post by: bigby on March 02, 2009, 02:58:00 PM
Rx, are you using Gilles dynamic skin?
I was having the same problem until I changed back to the default skin.
Hoping that Gilles can fix this so that I can use his skin instead.
Post by: waal on March 02, 2009, 04:33:00 PM
So would it be a resolution problem ? I'm on 720*576 PAL 60. With the fancy xbox settings : http://fancyxbox.inf...=1&secao=screen
edit.
Makes me think: Amigasys is also set in pal resolution.
So the Amiga OS runs in 640*256 PAL. I don't know if this usually work on NTSC screens, even if emulated. Try on PC with Winuae. Otherwise I'll have to provide NTSC drivers, too.
Post by: ressurectionx on March 02, 2009, 04:50:00 PM
Thanks for figuring that out for me. I was using the Dynamic Skin.
I wonder if there is a way to make the emu load up Amigasys automatically, so you don't even need to see the emulator at all. It would make sense to do that if we're going to be using this. Of course, you can always have two versions of the emu on your hard drive if you wanted to play games outside of Amigasys. I just think it would be cool to load straight up to it without seeing any emuload screens.
~Rx
Post by: ressurectionx on March 02, 2009, 09:44:00 PM
The only problem is I'm not too impressed with the command line stuff. It still shows every single screen before loading the game (main menu, game select, the game configuration menu if it is the first time the game is being played). I was hoping somebody could write something in the XPORT load code to bypass this stuff for use with this (and cut files in general).
Don't know if that's possible though.
~Rx
EDIT: Yeah... so I finally got it working. The trick is renaming the files like you said up there, and using the default skins.
Aren't the screenshots supposed to show up on this?
It's pretty sweet. I was just playing cannon fodder on there. Seems like some of the games don't work, while others, like the King's Quest series aren't good for use with the controller. A lot of these games probably work pretty well.
I take it you're still working on this waal? Great job getting it set up so far.
I remapped the mouse buttons to the A & B buttons and made Black + Back the F10 button to back out of games. (Only problem, of course, is F10 isn't the only thing used to back out. I couldn't get Gauntlet II to do anything, and F10 didn't back out of it either)
Keep me informed if you're planning on making updates to this. I think it would be really great if the non-working stuff was removed and the emu was configured right. It's already more Amiga than I've ever played before.
Post by: ressurectionx on March 04, 2009, 09:45:00 AM
Let me ask you though, are there a lot of games like Cannon Fodder which would be easy to program the controls for? That's a good game (probably the best version I've seen of it so far) and would be nice to have in the straight up emulator too. I would add games that were easy to configure like that, but I'm not going to spend any time configuring games that have a million different buttons.
Anyways.... looking forward to seeing what you come up with in the future and possibly having the BBC Micro on there. I got all the roms for it a year and a half ago when it looked like somebody was actually porting it to the XBox, but then they disappeared. Would be nice to see that working too.
And maybe any of those other systems that xyteam mentioned that aren't already emulated on the Box.
Later,
~Rx
Post by: killergorilla on March 04, 2009, 10:17:00 AM
You have one hdf (named whdload.hdf here) which contains a small startup sequence, the whdload files and a few other minor workbench files.
You then have an hdf for each game which contains the whdload installed version.
Then when you initially come to playing a game, you put whdload.hdf in hd1 and insertgamenamehere.hdf in hd2.
Then it'll boot the game. Takes a lot of time setting up all the games, but once it's done, it's done.
Then if whdload ever gets updated you just replace whdload.hdf
Post by: waal on March 04, 2009, 12:36:00 PM
Otherwise, I have already defined on Winuae windows a single directory as HD (i.e F:\Amiga_set\KGL) with KGLoad+WHDLoad and it works fine. And I know you can also do that with Winuaex. The problem would be the fatX filename limation (42 char.) on XBOX. But I already checked the package you supply and less than 50 games have to be corrected.
This post has been edited by waal: Mar 4 2009, 08:39 PM
Post by: bigby on March 04, 2009, 12:38:00 PM
What I've done is take the whd folder from winuaeloader (found in gamebase amiga) which contains:
"C" folder
"Devs" folder
"libs" folder
"S" folder
In the "S" folder I've had to edit the "user-startup" script to point to the relevant game.
Does this all seem right to you?
Also instead of creating a hdf for each game, I've unzipped a game (from your pack
)to its own folder.So my setup is:
DH0: WHDload.hdf
DH1: Game (as a folder) (use directory as hard drive in winuaex)
Post by: waal on March 04, 2009, 12:42:00 PM
Post by: bigby on March 04, 2009, 12:50:00 PM
Waiting for killergorilla to implement a game scanner to filter out the games not in the list.
Also I've had difficulty editing the favourites.txt to show the games I do have
Post by: madmab on March 05, 2009, 03:18:00 AM
QUOTE(waal @ Mar 2 2009, 12:18 PM) 
Rename HD Games 1.hdf and HD Games 2.hdf to HDGames1.hdf and HDGames2.hdf on your xbox.
I have a bunch of WHD games that I converted to self booting (sorta, you still have to load the game with the mouse controls). I only got up to the letter G, though.
My mistake...
Did you try Gamebase Amiga ? It could be a good way to use Winuaex like it's done with Gamebase64/Vice64x.
Plus no disk swapping! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: killergorilla on March 05, 2009, 05:57:00 AM
QUOTE(bigby @ Mar 4 2009, 08:26 PM)
Yeah waal, kgload looks promising!
Waiting for killergorilla to implement a game scanner to filter out the games not in the list.
Also I've had difficulty editing the favourites.txt to show the games I do have
Honestly mate, just wait for the next release of KGLoad.
The gamescanner will only list games you have, there is an "Add to Favourites" button to allow you to simply add your games to your faves list.
As for pointing the gamelist to DH1:games/ or whatever, yeah that should be fine.
Post by: sotu on April 23, 2009, 02:20:00 PM
Post by: sotu on April 24, 2009, 02:42:00 AM
Post by: sotu on April 24, 2009, 03:12:00 AM
Lol, if it's not one thing it's another. Hope to have most of the bugs ironed out soon.
Post by: sotu on April 24, 2009, 04:39:00 AM
Pretty impressive thus far, The Demo's show some pretty nice graphics.
Post by: DZIAD on September 23, 2009, 02:47:00 AM
AmigaSYS 4 - R1.3
New & Bug fixes:
- Pointer selection, 3 different pointers to choose (right menu, prefs...), Default AmigaOS red, Hand and White. 3.0/3.1/3.9
- Languange, spelling corrections, updates, etc. - 3.0/3.1/3.9.
- Broken AmigaSYS 4 BIOS menu repaired. - AmigaDOS.
New applications 3.0/3.1/3.9:
- AmigaAMP 2.22.
- BareED 0.10004.
- WormWars 8.57.
- Whdload 16.9.
New MUI MMC:
- MCC TextEditor 15.30.
- MCC TheBar 26.4.
- MCC Betterstring 11.16.
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