Post by: xRaVeNx on September 17, 2008, 01:19:00 PM
Post by: xRaVeNx on September 17, 2008, 02:33:00 PM
I just haven't decided to download it yet
Post by: killergorilla on September 17, 2008, 02:45:00 PM
I'd highly recommend it.
It's replaced both mame128 and FBA-XXX Pro on my xbox.
Post by: Retroplay on September 17, 2008, 02:53:00 PM
QUOTE(killergorilla @ Sep 17 2008, 11:21 PM) 
It's replaced both mame128 and FBA-XXX Pro on my xbox.
I replaced Mame128 with it aswell, I never used FBA-XXX tho, but that's about to change once the version by nes6502 is out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
CoinOPS is great and the best MAME experience you'll get on XBOX, period.
Post by: xRaVeNx on September 17, 2008, 03:10:00 PM
Better than FBA-XXX.....
Thats saying alot....
Post by: xRaVeNx on September 17, 2008, 03:32:00 PM
But, seems the author isn't comparing it to FBA, more or less to Mame...
Found this
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Apr 25 2008, 03:24 AM)
I cant add this to coinops full build sorry as it requires new dats (should be pretty easy to update standealone). But im starting a new FBAxxx total remake and I see bonks adventure can run in that if the core is updated so cross your fingers.
Seems he was creating a FBA-XXX update...Is this still happening?
Post by: sotu on September 17, 2008, 04:06:00 PM
Post by: ressurectionx on September 17, 2008, 06:38:00 PM
QUOTE(xRaVeNx @ Sep 17 2008, 10:46 PM)
Ohhhh.....wow....better praise than I expected....
Better than FBA-XXX.....
Thats saying alot....
CoinOPS is by far the best MAME emulator on the XBox, some will still argue this point, but most have come around with each update. Since most of the FBA games were after my time in the arcades, I'm not as fond of them as I am the MAME games, so CoinOPS is my favorite arcade emulator.
They're really both great emus though.
Post by: killergorilla on September 17, 2008, 06:55:00 PM
Post by: ressurectionx on September 17, 2008, 07:10:00 PM
QUOTE(killergorilla @ Sep 18 2008, 02:31 AM)
I ran the CoinOps DAT over all the games in my FBA-XXX games dir and it had a match with everyone. So I no longer have any need for FBA-XXX, it doesn't support any games I want to play that Coinops doesn't (for me anyway)
True, but I believe in threads I've seen here and elsewhere that some people do prefer FBA for playing FBA specific games a lot of the time. Some subtle differences in performance that I'd probably never notice, but having both systems is a good idea if getting as perfect emulation as you can is a big deal to you.
Then there's always the kids that started playing games in the CPS era that didn't know a ton of the games on MAME and would rather just have the CPS to choose from.
Don'tcha love having all these options?
Post by: competes2win on September 17, 2008, 09:32:00 PM
FBAXXX plays cps1 cps2 and neo geo games, mame emulators including coinops plays those and much more older more classic games... However, I believe that FBAXXX is known to play the games that it does, most notably the neo geo roms, much better than the mame emulators. I have personally compared many of the neo geo games as well as the cps2 games such as all of the street fighters and notice a substantial difference. In my opinion I would use FBAXXX for those games it plays and use Coinops for the other mame specific games. I do agree that Coinops is by far the superior mame emulator to date and use it a lot. But FBAxxx definitely should not be retired for it plays the games it does better than coinops and the other mame emulators.
Post by: killergorilla on September 18, 2008, 06:31:00 AM
I was discussing this with someone and he was saying SFA3 was getting some slowdowns on some fights so maybe FBA-XXX will do better on those.
What would be great is for the frontend of CoinOps to be used on top of MameDox/FBA-XXX/New FBA nes is doing.
That way, you pick a game, it loads it with the best emulator and then when you quit, returns to the same menu.
Post by: xyteam on September 18, 2008, 07:00:00 AM
mamex-b6
narc
double dragon1and2
these games play best on this version,you dont get any of the jerkiness or slowdown that you get in the later versions of mame.
mameox0.72
mortal kombat1,2,3 and ultimate
rampage world tour
nba jam.
this is the version of mame with the speed hack so all midway games can be played with sound and play the way they should.
mameox128 plus
raiden fighters2(2000)
raiden fighters2.1
primal rage
this is the only version that plays any of the raiden fighters games and for any shmup fanatic i reccomend it.
coinops is my main mame emu,but its worth having these biulds for those games that had issues in later versions of mame.
competes2win i agree with you on your above post.
This post has been edited by xyteam: Sep 18 2008, 02:02 PM
Post by: killergorilla on September 18, 2008, 07:22:00 AM
Would be superb if these arcade emus could be pulled together into (seemingly) a single emulator. It may be the case that behind the frontend there are actually 4 or 5 different executables but to the end user it'll all run from the one emulator.
Post by: xyteam on September 18, 2008, 08:22:00 AM
Post by: BonusJz on September 18, 2008, 10:03:00 AM
So in short Mameox128plus is most advanced Mame experience on Xbox till now and should be used by true emulator fans - coinops is for newbies
As for FBA - I cannot believe what have read here - Fba will run any supported game within much better that Mame (try to run Airgallet in both or any shooter).Fba is a must for any pro xbox gamer that want to avoid frame skip or choppiness
Post by: nes6502 on September 19, 2008, 10:22:00 AM
There is no better emulator to play CPS1, CPS2, NeoGeo, or Cave games than FBA. There is no other emulator on the XBOX that will run these in HD resolutions, or with graphics filters and still run at 60 FPS.
I'll take CPS1, CPS2, NeoGeo, and Cave games at 1080i, with high resolution graphics filters, and force feedback any day over plain jane vanilla mame at 480i.
Post by: ressurectionx on September 19, 2008, 10:48:00 AM
Post by: killergorilla on September 19, 2008, 10:55:00 AM
I wasn't saying FBA-XXX was shit, I was just saying I didn't see a reason for keeping it alongside CoinOps.
Obviously I was wrong, I've not actually tested the larger games that are supported by FBA in CoinOps so haven't seen any slowdown.
Looks as though I'll be whacking FBA on the xbox too, just to play those bigger ones. cheers!
Gotta be a "pro xbox gamer" after all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Oh and I don't see a problem having different mame cores, you don't need to actually load the emulator code until you click to start the game, just run the menu as a separate program (which I think the current mame emus do).
Post by: run088 on September 19, 2008, 12:23:00 PM
QUOTE(BonusJz @ Sep 18 2008, 10:39 AM)
Mameox128plus runs also FixEight (sequel to Outzone) , plus support replay inputs , history.dat , and few very important option that can be accessed easily (like disable/enable sound, vmu optimization ).
So in short Mameox128plus is most advanced Mame experience on Xbox till now and should be used by true emulator fans - coinops is for newbies
As for FBA - I cannot believe what have read here - Fba will run any supported game within much better that Mame (try to run Airgallet in both or any shooter).Fba is a must for any pro xbox gamer that want to avoid frame skip or choppiness
I got to dissagree with this one.Most options are still there but require you to alter the ini.The menu is just gone because it is setup to be user friendly for the noobs.You search around the tdata and you will find the ini which has the fields.But I have had no need to do this because most everything has already been done that I care for anyway.FBA is a sweet emulator as well but it does not have the features that coinops provides so I dont use it myself anymore but I really liked it when I did.I never liked the skin and the skin layout for the fba either this is just a personal perferance I am sure its got its fans and haters.If there is a big difference on the game play between the two I can not tell the difference both play good in my book and it comes down for me to a choice about the availibility of the other features that may or maynot be performance related.But I will say that mame seems to have more of a future than FBA.I am guessing FBA is about max since samba support was never added.I think I read somewhere that one of the original developers said it was to much for the emulator.Coinops on the otherhand streams flawlessly so my best guess by this fact alone is its got more money left in the bank.And because it still has money there is still money left to spend.Translated more future options upgrades and performance possibilities.This could be wrong but makes since to me.
Post by: xyteam on September 19, 2008, 12:41:00 PM
This post has been edited by xyteam: Sep 19 2008, 07:56 PM
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on September 19, 2008, 05:15:00 PM
If NES and I went into partnership we could merge the best of both worlds im sure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: ressurectionx on September 19, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Sep 20 2008, 12:51 AM)
CoinOPS may soon use the FBA render engine for some games (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)... Or I may just totally redo the FBA GUI as I dont like it and dont use it because of this. 97 percent of games run exactly the same on 3 percent of the games that slow down a bit at a few points they dont on FBA but unless you play it to that level and I dont much you cant really tell the diff. If you play it to that level the engine of FBA is more optomised just less games and a way more complexed GUI.
If NES and I went into partnership we could merge the best of both worlds im sure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I have both emus myself. Yours does pretty much anything I care about, so FBA hardly gets played. Like I said before, I think aside from crisper images, FBA is really the emu for guys that are 25 or younger now. Most of those games were out after I was done with arcades, and the CPS2 ones that I play work perfect in MAME already.
I'm looking forward to that partnership, and hoping that you guys understand each other and help each other out and push MAME to the next level.
~Rx
Post by: killergorilla on September 19, 2008, 07:57:00 PM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Sep 20 2008, 12:51 AM)
CoinOPS may soon use the FBA render engine for some games (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)... Or I may just totally redo the FBA GUI as I dont like it and dont use it because of this. 97 percent of games run exactly the same on 3 percent of the games that slow down a bit at a few points they dont on FBA but unless you play it to that level and I dont much you cant really tell the diff. If you play it to that level the engine of FBA is more optomised just less games and a way more complexed GUI.
If NES and I went into partnership we could merge the best of both worlds im sure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Sounds like a good idea, take a look at the posts above about the other mame cores supporting various games, it'd be great to have the lot working together (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on September 19, 2008, 08:52:00 PM
Post by: killergorilla on September 20, 2008, 07:50:00 AM
Keep it up mate (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: underworlderZer0 on September 22, 2008, 12:57:00 AM
I'm excited to hear that you've gotten Midway games to run w/ sound.
Thanks again for all your hard work.
And for the record, I fully support CoinOPS over other arcade emus- a major reason being the GUI. I like that I can leave it on at a party and other people can pick it up and use it without having their hands held. It also looks way better, which is important.
If that makes me a n00b, then I don't want to be 133t.
This post has been edited by underworlderZer0: Sep 22 2008, 08:02 AM
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on September 22, 2008, 10:50:00 PM
the NEW COINOPS name and thread will come out in a week as it is close to release time the build is now very nice and alot of bugs removed (people want new drivers but they were 100 games or so with issues in existing drivers) The new version will fit to one DVD and may have an expansion DVD if RX makes one for a full set with everything else. The releases from then on will be new game drivers and bug fixs and will be tiny in size and allways overlay ontop of the NEW COINOPS so this will be the new starting point as its like the other with 100s of fixes although it looks close there actually is alot of changes.
Till next week when I release a new Thread any ideas on a name CoinOPS xxxxxx anyone
also it would have been nice if this was finished so I can be aware of issues that helps me sort them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pNr...udEQ&hl=en#
This post has been edited by BritneysPAIRS: Sep 23 2008, 05:50 AM
Post by: underworlderZer0 on September 23, 2008, 01:09:00 AM
CoinOPS Unlimited
CoinOPS Gold
CoinOPS Planitum
CoinOPS Infinity
CoinOPS Complete
CoinOPS Omega
CoinOPS VirtualArcade/ VirtuArcade/ Virtuacade
CoinOPS x2
CoinOPS Ultimate
CoinOPs FreePlay
CoinOPS Neo
CoinOPS Increment (CoinOPS++ That's programmer humor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )
And my favorite...
CoinOPacolypse (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
This post has been edited by underworlderZer0: Sep 23 2008, 08:10 AM
Post by: cbagy on September 26, 2008, 02:13:00 AM
Post by: xyteam on September 26, 2008, 05:08:00 AM
Post by: VampX on September 26, 2008, 10:42:00 AM
QUOTE(underworlderZer0 @ Sep 23 2008, 09:45 AM)
CoinOPS Gold
I like that one, has a nice ring to it.
then should there ever be a new version he could always call it CoinOps Gold + or CoinOps Final or something.
Gold feels nice and definitive, but also not so definitive that you can't come up with a newer name someday.
Post by: xyteam on September 26, 2008, 10:51:00 AM
Post by: Cyborg17 on September 26, 2008, 08:19:00 PM
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on September 27, 2008, 12:40:00 AM
Post by: QjO on September 27, 2008, 12:48:00 AM
Post by: VampX on September 27, 2008, 05:51:00 AM
QUOTE(QjO @ Sep 27 2008, 09:24 AM)
any reason why the CoinOps builds aren't available via xbins ftp?
because it comes with 4 gigs worth of sorted working roms?
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on September 27, 2008, 05:14:00 PM
Looks like CoinOPS Gold will be the offical name for CoinOPS Version 2 I have fixed over 100 more games since CoinOPS that had little issues of control naming speed etc
Any games I should recommend that arnt there if so I will check them out...... any changes to the skin or interface now is the time to say
This post has been edited by BritneysPAIRS: Sep 28 2008, 12:26 AM