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Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: NYZO on August 18, 2007, 04:21:00 AM
Hi Guys,

In the absence of a BBC Emulator for the XBOX I have decided to take my first dive into XBOX development. To avoid any flamers and haters I want to state that I am in no way saying 1) I am a coding god 2) That this will be a polished build like anything XPORT or NES6502 have produced.

I say this because I am after constructive help from this great community not a load of bulls*"t posts. I remeber seeing NES get loads of abuse when first starting Zsnexbox. Lets try and avoid that this time please. I have all the tools I need and am ready to kick this project off.

Here are my questions:

1) As a lover of the BBC Micro I have been playing my beeb games on my PC for ages. I have always used Beebem and found this to be great emu. I have the source code for this and at the moment am planning to use this as the base for the port. Does anybody have any better suggestions of an emulator to port that might be better than Beebem?

2) NES6502: Once the base work of this emulator is up and running do have any objections if I have a look at your zsnexbox gui and maybe borrow some ideas?

3) Not knowing much about the GPL - am i obliged to release source for such a project as this. Want to try and avoid the crap that is going on with XPORTS disxspectrum and the developer of fuse at the moment.

Looking forward to getting some feedback from you guys!!!!!!

Lets all hope this works out well.

 



Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: craze7 on August 18, 2007, 04:41:00 AM
are u going to build it with the OPENXDK?

that would be class!
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: NYZO on August 18, 2007, 04:44:00 AM
I hear what you are saying - a fully legal binary would be nice but at the moment my  firm decision is to go down the other road.
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: shorty on August 18, 2007, 01:42:00 PM
This is great news.

An acorn electron was my first computer, and i loved many of the games available for it. I dont think beebem plays electron games, but it is just a beefed up version of the same system, so i think many of the same games are available for the beeb (Yay!)

I actually considered trying to port the "electrem" emulator a while back, perhaps i'll still try, lots of free time coming up.

As for suggestions, i'd love to have usb keyboard support, kinda essential i guess.

And the ability to boot with no game loaded for writing programs and what not would be excellent.

Oh! and xports ability to accept custom launch paramaters (For launching games directly from XBMC).... also the ability that when a game has been launched this way, when you exit the game it falls back to the launching app (Source pretty much a copy and paste from xports emu's i'd guess).

Anyway, thanks for this, and good luck.

 Shorty

Also while i'm on about electrem, it's GUI (Classic not future) Is great, simple, functional, elegant and perfect for a tv screen.

http://electrem.acornelectron.co.uk/ if you are interested.

 Shorty
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: NYZO on August 18, 2007, 03:05:00 PM
thanks for the reply shorty. those kind of features are things I will hopefully look at in the future.

at the moment I am concentrating on getting the basics of the emulator up and running. i am not going to go in all guns blazing and try and get every feature in the first build. The basics of being able to load and play a game with full graphics, sound and input methods are first on the priority list. Next will be to build a useable GUI around it. After that point, nice new features can be added in.

NYZO

edit:

my dev environment is now setup so let the carnage begin!!!!!!!

This post has been edited by NYZO: Aug 18 2007, 10:06 PM
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: shorty on August 18, 2007, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE(NYZO @ Aug 18 2007, 10:05 PM) *

thanks for the reply shorty. those kind of features are things I will hopefully look at in the future.


NP

Absolutley, one step at a time is the way forward for sure. The games are the main thing, like you said.
Do keep us updated.

Cheers,

 Shorty
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: kimota2004 on August 19, 2007, 07:51:00 AM
Does this mean I'll be able to play Granny's Garden again?  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: VampX on August 19, 2007, 12:36:00 PM
Excelleeeeeeent, I might not be familiar with the BBC but i always welcome new apps for my xbox.
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: irishwhip on August 19, 2007, 12:54:00 PM
i intend to spend all of my free time playing tea shop as soon as this emu is finished  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: NYZO on August 22, 2007, 02:15:00 PM
just a quick update for you all - progress is being made at a faster rate than I expected.

it's a public holiday this weekend in the UK and the reading festival is calling me. So once I have had my fix of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers and Nine Inch Nails I will be back and should have something to release to you by Wednesday 29th.

thanks guys.
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: Retroplay on August 22, 2007, 02:30:00 PM
QUOTE(VampX @ Aug 19 2007, 08:36 PM) *

Excelleeeeeeent, I might not be familiar with the BBC but i always welcome new apps for my xbox.


What he said.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: nes6502 on August 22, 2007, 02:49:00 PM
QUOTE(NYZO @ Aug 18 2007, 11:21 AM) *



2) NES6502: Once the base work of this emulator is up and running do have any objections if I have a look at your zsnexbox gui and maybe borrow some ideas?


Nope. Steal any ideas and/or code you want.
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: NYZO on August 23, 2007, 12:50:00 AM
thanks alot NES. appreciate that.
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: shorty on August 23, 2007, 08:51:00 AM
QUOTE(NYZO @ Aug 22 2007, 09:15 PM) *

should have something to release to you by Wednesday 29th.


That really is fast progress

Nice one, looking forward to seeing BBC on Xbox.
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: montymole on August 23, 2007, 10:29:00 AM

Look forward to your efforts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Must be the only outstanding emulator left for the xbox and would be nice to play chuckie egg and Frak again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: kimota2004 on August 23, 2007, 03:16:00 PM
Would also be cool to play Revs as I've not ever played it, but heard lots. (wasn't this created by the legend himself, Geoff Crammond?) and the original version of Elite!  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: NYZO on August 27, 2007, 02:29:00 PM
for those of you who are interested (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)          i am back from my weekend away and development has resumed. The target day of Wednesday for some kind of a release is still looking realistic at the moment which is good. I already have an XBE that is up and running, just a few things that still need tidying up before wednesday.

will post with more news soon.
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: kimota2004 on August 27, 2007, 03:17:00 PM
Excellent I'm looking forward to this.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: rubarb on August 27, 2007, 04:35:00 PM
QUOTE(kimota2004 @ Aug 27 2007, 10:17 PM) *

Excellent I'm looking forward to this.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


same here.
wonder why its taken so long for a beeb emu to arrive, probably because its not well known or even known at all outside uk.

good luck with the coding  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: Andrew_Roy on August 27, 2007, 08:12:00 PM
I never heard of the BBC Micro before. I might check this out.

I hate how BBC television looks, with its strange hues and lighting, makes every show they make totally unwatchable. No one should ever emulate that.
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: Pytzamarama on August 28, 2007, 12:17:00 AM
Well done NYZO!!!!!!
BBC rockz!
So the list of the popular British home micros that are un-emulated is getting shorter (Sam Coupe,QL,Dragon,,Archimedes (well it is not a home micro but...))
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: shorty on August 29, 2007, 05:29:00 AM
Definatly interested, thanks for the update  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Looking forward to seeing repton again all theese years later.

 Shorty
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: killergorilla on August 29, 2007, 09:03:00 AM
This is superb!

Cheers for doing this, I always used to love playing the Repton games on my old BBC all those years ago, would be good to see them all again!

Keep it up mate, your work is much appreciated  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: NYZO on August 30, 2007, 02:52:00 AM
well firstly, apologies for not releasing quite yet. there are still a few bits to be done before this happens. Fear not though, this is not going to turn into one of those projects that disappears into obscurity.

as always will keep you posted.

thanks for your patience.
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: Paradox32 on August 30, 2007, 06:03:00 AM
Nyzo, it's ready when it's ready mate - I know we're all looking forward to it.  Best of luck with it, I'm surprised that after Reading you've got any coding left in you...! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: shorty on September 04, 2007, 08:45:00 AM
Nyzo, Still working on this project? How's it going?

Not meaning to pester you though, takes as long as it takes.

Cheers,

 Shorty
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: dredd666 on September 12, 2007, 08:38:00 AM
Hey, Nyzo!
Being an old-school gamer as well, this is excellent news for me.
Hope to hears great news from you some time soon, about the progress of your work on this...
Good luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: Pytzamarama on September 26, 2007, 03:39:00 AM
Hi!
Is there any update status?
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: ressurectionx on September 29, 2007, 09:23:00 PM
aw man.... this is going to fade away into obscurity just like the PDF reader, isn't it.   Damn shame.
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: Pytzamarama on October 11, 2007, 03:13:00 AM
C mon NYZO...u could give us a rough project status...
Title: Bbc Emulator Starting Soon
Post by: Antiriad on November 06, 2007, 03:21:00 PM
*bump*

Playing Granny's Garden on the XBox would be fun! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)