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Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: jerome187 on September 09, 2003, 05:30:00 PM
Can't I flash the TSOP with a X2.2 Lite like I would with a Engimah?

1. Install chip + make TSOP writeable
2. Install evox on HD, put bios on HD
3. Boot evox, disable modchip
4. Use evox to flash TSOP with bios of choice.

I've done this before with a engimah, and from what i've read in other posts and tutorials on this site I cant do this with a X2.2 Lite.  Why not?
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: jerome187 on September 15, 2003, 10:22:00 AM
BUMP!

Dosent anyone know?
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: ColdSun on September 15, 2003, 11:27:00 AM
I see no reason you cant. I've done quite a few in a similar fashion.
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: venturahighway on September 15, 2003, 11:46:00 AM
I think when the xbox boots from the LPC port it disables its own TSOP.  The xbox must be tricked into not doing that with the Evox_Matrix_TSOP bios/method.  This only works on v1.0 boxes (with a valid bios still in the TSOP).
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: jerome187 on September 16, 2003, 06:43:00 PM
Ahh, ok.  darn... sold my last engimah too.

so basically any non-LPC mods will allow you to easly flash the TSOP?
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: venturahighway on September 16, 2003, 07:47:00 PM
if you call 29 wires easy

go for the 007/MA booting evox or raincoat

anyway
looks like the new Evox_Dual_TSOP bios can do them all in this way  

This post has been edited by venturahighway: Sep 17 2003, 02:51 AM
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: b01 on September 16, 2003, 08:56:00 PM
Jerome, if you put the new tsop D6.bin BIOS on your mod-chip, you should be able to flash the TSOP of any xbox, except maybe the new 1.4, but I dont see why it would not work for this one also.

Just download the new EvolutionX dash and the tsopD6 bios is included with it, then just follow the instructions on Matrtix TSOP flashing, and that should work for you. ph34r.gif
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: icjonu on September 17, 2003, 07:48:00 PM
alright, i have successfuly accomplished this 2 days ago on a XBOX v1.0 here are my steps ..

1. make the tsop writeable (solder the 2 points)
2. install x2.2lite (i used Evox D.6) [don't think you have to .. X2 4977 is fine]
3. boot with modchip on & evox boot disc
4. turn off modchip after evox loads
5. flash the tsop with a 1MB BIOS [i used 1MB b/c my version is a 1.0] [i flashed X2 4977 on there]
6. remove modchip
7. boot with evox cd in & ftp & install your stuff

There ya have it, it is very possible to do this .. just make sure to flash the right size BIOS on to your XBOX.

n-joy
-Jonathan
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: xboxfrizzy on September 17, 2003, 09:17:00 PM
Instead of doing steps 2,3, and 4,  couldnt you just skip the modchip and use the 007/MA gamesave to load up evox and flash with that?
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: venturahighway on September 18, 2003, 03:50:00 AM
QUOTE (b01 @ Sep 17 2003, 05:56 AM)
Jerome, if you put the new tsop D6.bin BIOS on your mod-chip, you should be able to flash the TSOP of any xbox, except maybe the new 1.4, but I dont see why it would not work for this one also.


Yes, the new evox D6 tsop bios can do them all,

thanks b01
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: xboxfrizzy on September 18, 2003, 05:08:00 AM
QUOTE
Instead of doing steps 2,3, and 4, couldnt you just skip the modchip and use the 007/MA gamesave to load up evox and flash with that?


Ill answer my own question

NO
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: venturahighway on September 18, 2003, 05:17:00 AM
QUOTE (xboxfrizzy @ Sep 18 2003, 03:02 PM)
QUOTE
Instead of doing steps 2,3, and 4, couldnt you just skip the modchip and use the 007/MA gamesave to load up evox and flash with that?

Ill answer my own question

NO



yes you can.

This post has been edited by venturahighway: Sep 18 2003, 12:18 PM
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: neonmod on September 18, 2003, 08:51:00 AM
I have tested this new tsop_d6 bios and it don't work, just get no video from the Xbox.
Anyone else tried this bios?
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: venturahighway on September 18, 2003, 09:27:00 AM
QUOTE (neonmod @ Sep 18 2003, 06:45 PM)
I have tested this new tsop_d6 bios and it don't work, just get no video from the Xbox.
Anyone else tried this bios?

I hope you didn't flash it to your TSOP.  Did you?
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: venturahighway on September 18, 2003, 09:39:00 AM
QUOTE (icjonu @ Sep 18 2003, 05:42 AM)
alright, i have successfuly accomplished this 2 days ago on a XBOX v1.0 here are my steps ..

1. make the tsop writeable (solder the 2 points)
2. install x2.2lite (i used Evox D.6) [don't think you have to .. X2 4977 is fine]
3. boot with modchip on & evox boot disc
4. turn off modchip after evox loads
5. flash the tsop with a 1MB BIOS [i used 1MB b/c my version is a 1.0] [i flashed X2 4977 on there]
6. remove modchip
7. boot with evox cd in & ftp & install your stuff

There ya have it, it is very possible to do this .. just make sure to flash the right size BIOS on to your XBOX.

n-joy
-Jonathan

if you could do this then why did the evox team release the Evox_matrix_tsop bios and now the D6_tsop bios?

Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: Pizza Pizz on September 18, 2003, 10:35:00 AM
I just tried the D6 tsop on a 1mb Xecuter 2.0 lite - phew thankfully not my tsop....

same here - black screen no video/audio

sod the new bios stuff - just recovered my tsop with homebrew after a bad 4978 flash a few weeks back

think the old D6 eject or X2 4976/77 for me unless some some super duper bios works well on my lpc mods, then I might think about playing with my tsop again
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: venturahighway on September 18, 2003, 10:41:00 AM
QUOTE (Pizza Pizz @ Sep 18 2003, 07:35 PM)
I just tried the D6 tsop on a 1mb Xecuter 2.0 lite - phew thankfully not my tsop....

same here - black screen no video/audio

sod the new bios stuff - just recovered my tsop with homebrew after a bad 4978 flash a few weeks back

think the old D6 eject or X2 4976/77 for me unless some some super duper bios works well on my lpc mods, then I might think about playing with my tsop again

Are you disabling the modchip (open d0) 1-2 seconds after power on?
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: Pizza Pizz on September 18, 2003, 10:43:00 PM
ergh yeah i do read very much indeed......

bloomin' strange that so many many peeps can't revive a shagged tsop with a lpc mod - though the tutorials say that a matrix can do it due to using modes 4 & 3

in fact many more peeps say you can't do it with non-matrix lpc mods due to the fact the lpc simply takes over when it boots/D0 grounded

a few weeks back when I hosed my tsop I read and tried and read and tried loads of methods on cheapmods/X2.x's - different bios's including the matrix tsop bios on my other cheapmods/lpc mods too

heck even an open bioxx was wired in but nope couldn't get evox to say it was gonna detect n flash a ST 1mb tsop
yes there is another tutorial about reviving tsop with lpc mod - but so so many peeps haven't been able to get it to work either - which indicates that if it does work then the timing of the mod disable must be impossible to judge

even tried grounding the T15 connection briefly but evox did not detect the 1mb ST bios on my ver 1.0 tsop - which still had the tsop points bridged before anyone asks

Thought I'd try the X2.2 lite again like you said - maybe coz it has it's own LFRAME for 1.3's that maybe it could do what so many mods & modders have failed to do - yes I tried the tsop D6 coz isn't that what it was made for they say

If the D6 ef one worked so well why would they bring out a tsop one ?????

If these D6's work so well then we should see many many more peeps have success in bringing their shagged tsop's back to life but as of yet I see more problem posts than success posts

but I must be a complete noob at this - hmmmm

my previous tsop's were done by:

messiah-x for the first 4 or 5 ver 1.0's ST tsop's I did

raincoat 0.5 for winbond and ST 1.2/3's + a couple of 1.0 ST's and 1 hynix ver 1.0

then used 007 evox for last lot of ST ver 1.0's and 1.2/3's I did

(what about ver 1.1's? - well I just use a load of cheapmods/xpert lite's I got lying around rather than tsop - 1.2's were tsop'd coz there was/is some difference of opinion that some 30xx ver 1.2's are in fact 1.3's when working cheapmods don't work on the header pins - where as a x2.2 lite will work - thus a 256kb tsop flash to ensure it will work no matter what)

In the end to get the hosed tsop working again I bought and programmed the homebrew myself under evox on another ver 1.0 xbox.....

this ver 1.0 xbox has 2 switches fitted btw

1 switch controls the power from pin 32 to mobo & link wire 32

the other switch is connected to pins 13 & 16 of the homebrew's flashrom socket
(which is Alt D0 & Ground)

so yes I have a switch for LPC mods

In fact I have - hanging out of side my ver 1.0 mobo

header pins - connected to mobo by about 5 inches or wires, this way I can easily hot-swap and reflash any lpc mod

homebrew flashrom socket - still connected to mobo but has switch for pin 32 and the socket is a special eject lever type so I can and have prgrammed a 2nd homebrew chip under evox

and on the tsop is a standard D6 eject fix 1mb bios as the D6 seems to better booting and new unpartioned drive using an evox cd/slayer install

but hey - I gotta be doing something wrong like you say so

if you got it to work then I reckon you was fortunate with any timing issues on switching mod on then off very quickly
But I will remain in 2 minds over this lpc/tsop flash success - I will give it another go again later today though

In the mean time - if you manage to revive a completely hosed tsop with your method then by all means let us know - as this would be the real test that it works.

I am wondering if the tsop had a retail bios on it or something else or in other words was the tsop really flashed or the X2.2 lite, and that the tsop may have already had been flashed - before anyone says the tsop points weren't bridged, that means jack squat coz I have recently done a ver 1.0 and a 1.3 without using the convential tsop points so the mobo looks completely untouched

like I say, when a few more peeps post their joy as they easily recover a nuked tsop from a LPC mod & this normal D6 ef bios - then I may accept that it does work like you said
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: icjonu on September 19, 2003, 06:06:00 PM
sorry if i seem to be anal but I don't think this topic was about reviving a hosed tsop .. it was just about flashing the TSOP with an X2.2 Lite .. = the modchip description on this site does say it is possible .. and it is.

-Jonathan
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: Pizza Pizz on September 20, 2003, 04:38:00 AM
ergh - excuse me a sec....

SHOULDN'T MATTER - IT'S THE SAME THING ISN'T IT ???

if you COULD boot up using a lpc mod and flash the tsop then the you should be able to revive a hosed tsop the same way as you wouldn't be booting from tsop but lpc mod

well that is how the homebrew works - you can leave it in and just use that mod or diable/remove homebrew after it boots and reflash/revive a hosed tsop - coz I have done it and I know the thing works

so I stand by what I said:

If you ever manage to recover a hosed tsop using your X2.2 lite then that would prove you actually got the tsop flashed from a lpc mod

I thought the tutorial - well the one I saw about using a lpc to flash a tsop, mentioned not only turning off the lpc mod very quickly but also grounding the T15 connection as per the using matrix tsop bios......

so you have managed to use an ordinary bios and not need to ground T15 like that lpc tutorial and the matrix tsop recovery said ?

WOW YOU MUST WALK ON WATER - as you have found an easier way to flash tsop's
(shame you seem to be the only one walking on water atm coz everyone else is say it don't work)

like I say if your method works so well then a little tsop recovery would work perfectly as well wouldn't it as evox will flash a hosed or a working tsop as long as you can get it up n running. The only problem is LPC just takes over and tsop isn't available under normal conditions

when you have recovered a tsop please let me know

until then I will just say you was very very fortunate if it did work the way you said
Title: Flashing Tsop With X2.2 Lite
Post by: bucko on October 14, 2003, 11:09:00 AM
Gee I don't know. I've never flashed my TSOP before. Though this sounds very interesting. So disable the mod chip just BEFORE the evolution x dashboard loads then. Sounds fun. I have an Xecutor 2.1 Lite on a 1.1 Xbox will all be ok using the described method. The Xecutor 2.1 Lite currently has 4978.03 and Gentoox bios on it though. You mentioned Evox D6 EF for best results or somthing. I'm really looking forward to flashing my TSOP this way. BTW my TSOP brand is a Hynx.