Post by: XaRaNn on December 22, 2006, 11:11:00 AM
Changelog WAY too long to post here, but go read it while it's hot
http://www.zsnes.com/index.php?page=news
And here's the announcment on there boards, so go ahead and congratulate them.
http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9171
On the game-specific side of things,
Star Fox 2 now works, Super Metroid is shiny and improved with no line bugs and whatnot, also all hacks (like redesign) work.
Top Gear 3000 of course works, i think they also fixed some glitches with it's savestates recently.
Now as far as xbox is concerned, this release is an improvment but not that far out from the WIP build Zsnexbox used early on. Still i thought it was worth noting, and nes6502, if you get some free time and stumble onto this, i wouldn't mind hearing what you think of it and what you plan to do with it =].
Post by: Timerever on December 22, 2006, 11:01:00 AM
Post by: Consoleman! on December 26, 2006, 05:48:00 PM
Post by: micbic on December 26, 2006, 06:36:00 PM
Post by: Timerever on December 27, 2006, 02:45:00 AM
QUOTE(micbic @ Dec 27 2006, 03:43 AM) 
I didn't even notice the super metroid bugs on the latest zsnexbox. None of these bug fixes affect me at all,
Super Aleste doesn't work that well, but I dunno if it works better on ZSnes 1.5 either.
Post by: micbic on December 27, 2006, 06:36:00 AM
QUOTE(you)
Super Aleste doesn't work that well, but I dunno if it works better on ZSnes 1.5 either.
QUOTE(me)
as far as i am concerned
I havent even heard of that game before and thats saying something
Post by: Retroplay on December 27, 2006, 07:54:00 AM
I've completed Space Megaforce without any problems with ZsnexBox.
Post by: nes6502 on December 27, 2006, 09:52:00 AM
QUOTE(Retroplay @ Dec 27 2006, 04:01 PM)
Super Aleste is the same game as Space Megaforce.
I've completed Space Megaforce without any problems with ZsnexBox.
I actually played Space Megaforce for good while and I didn't notice anyything wrong with it. It seemed to be running perfectly (audio and video) to me. What specifically was wrong?
Post by: Timerever on December 27, 2006, 10:46:00 AM
QUOTE(micbic @ Dec 27 2006, 03:43 PM) 
I havent even heard of that game before and thats saying something
Yeah, it says that you've never played one of the very few SNES games worth playing. Way to go.
QUOTE(Retroplay @ Dec 27 2006, 05:01 PM)
Super Aleste is the same game as Space Megaforce.
I've completed Space Megaforce without any problems with ZsnexBox.
Me too but there are some graphic glitches, like in that underground level with falling boulders, the walls during the boss fight are glitchy. The intro is also a bit glitchy, nothing that stops you from playing and finishing the game but hardly perfect. Of course one can argue that the game music is far worse than enduring any graphic glitches but that's another story isn't it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Post by: Retroplay on December 27, 2006, 10:42:00 AM
QUOTE(Timerever @ Dec 27 2006, 06:17 PM)
very few SNES games worth playing.
Shame on you.
Post by: Timerever on December 27, 2006, 10:47:00 AM
QUOTE(Retroplay @ Dec 27 2006, 07:49 PM)
Shame on you.
Sorry dude but I don't play countless Mario games nor unbelivably long RPG with a cliche stories and most Nintendo franchises just bore the hell out of me, exceptions go to Chrono Trigger and Super Metroid, good games indeed.
Post by: Opoth on December 27, 2006, 11:04:00 AM
QUOTE(Timerever @ Dec 27 2006, 06:54 PM)
Sorry dude but I don't play countless Mario games nor unbelivably long RPG with a cliche stories and most Nintendo franchises just bore the hell out of me, exceptions go to Chrono Trigger and Super Metroid, good games indeed.
You hate everything and nothing is ever good enough for you, not too surprising.
Post by: nes6502 on December 27, 2006, 12:04:00 PM
QUOTE(Timerever @ Dec 27 2006, 06:54 PM)
Sorry dude but I don't play countless Mario games nor unbelivably long RPG with a cliche stories
Ok. So you're just a casual gamer (since no true gamer, or gamer alive in the SNES era would make a statement like that). Nothing wrong with that.
You like simple mindless button mashers with no depth (like Super Aleste). Nothing wrong with that either.
QUOTE
and most Nintendo franchises just bore the hell out of me
Nintendo franchises on the SNES represent some of the very best gaming had to offer from the 90's. You're probablly too young and your idea of "retro" gaming is the playstation. That's a shame since the Final Fantasy SNES games (especially 3) far surpass even Chrono Trigger in my book.
Post by: Timerever on December 27, 2006, 03:45:00 PM
Unlike in USA, in Europe Nintendo never had the strong influence it had in USA, and in Portugal (thank god) it had none, zero, nada. It has nearly impossible to find a Nintendo branded thing even in late nineties, it was easier to find 32X games! For cring out loud, Sega Saturn was this close to pawn Sony Playstation in this country. If Sega Saturn just had more support even PSX would've meet sales oblivion... I blame Sega Japan on this one since Sega Portugal did an astounishing job eliminating pretty much everything that wasn't Sega. To see how far this went, I've never played a Nintendo game 'till 2002 when I first got Zsnes to play Chrono Cross and you may bet that many people in Portugal never touched anything Nintendo except a Gameboy since those who haven't sticked to their Megadrives understandably jumped on the PSX boat. The first, the only and the last Nintendo console I owned was a Gamecube that I bought this summer only because it was at 49€ including a memory card and a game....... sold if after 1 month, worst spent money on my live, never again will that happen.
BTW my idea of retro is Master System and Spectrum ZX (yes I had one) since I played Megadrive 'till late '99 when my console died. Then I jumped on the dreamcast boat, f*ck Sony too, I never owned anything by them too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
May oldskool Sega live forever! Swallow yer Nintendo pride. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif)
EDIT:
QUOTE(Opoth @ Dec 27 2006, 08:11 PM)
You hate everything and nothing is ever good enough for you, not too surprising.
It's goth rage emo for you, and your talk distracted me while I was making up! Now I have black lipstick on my chin covering my satanic tatoo...... I'll just have to cut myself to relief me of my anger, way to go dude. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
This post has been edited by Timerever: Dec 27 2006, 11:55 PM
Post by: Kanyero on December 27, 2006, 04:40:00 PM
QUOTE(Timerever @ Dec 27 2006, 11:16 PM)
Unlike in USA, in Europe Nintendo never had the strong influence it had in USA
Really? Well here in Spain (we are european too) Snes was a great success in fact most of my friends who had a 16 bits console had a snes, gb was the most common handheld console, and there were nes clones everywhere. Of course sega had a great part of the market , maybe 40% sega 50% nintendo and the other 10% was a mix of other systems like pce, neogeo and other.
btw for me zsnexbox quality is so high that it can hardly be improved, only updates to the core that fixes minor glitches and improves compatibility can make it better. I hope 1.50 core could be used for next versions
A++ for nes6502´s job
Post by: VampX on December 27, 2006, 06:33:00 PM
QUOTE(Kanyero @ Dec 28 2006, 12:47 AM)
Really? Well here in Spain (we are european too) Snes was a great success
And me hailing from the Netherlands will have to agree with Kanyero,
in fact i noticed Nintendo overtaking Sega's position almost overnight after the Snes was released.
as a matter of fact Sega only really held total control here for a very short moment.
(that being the time when the Megadrive/Genesis had just been released)
but the moment the Snes was released all the stores switched like 75% of their space back to Nintendo again.
and to Timerever, from what I've read you are not a die hard gamer like most of us are, (nothing wrong with that)
so please don't claim Europe as your defense, because gaming has been huge here since mid NES times,
so i wonder about your claims, either you were too young to remember or the stores in the town where you lived were run by Sega fans.
And no i wasn't a Nintendo fanboy, in fact i owned a Sega.
(still have it, together with like 50 other consoles)
Post by: SlyBeast on December 28, 2006, 06:52:00 AM
@Timerever: You mean you had a Gamecube & didn't play any of the Resident Evil games? That's a damn shame.
Post by: Timerever on December 28, 2006, 07:43:00 AM
QUOTE(Timerever @ Dec 28 2006, 12:16 AM)
It's goth rage emo for you, and your talk distracted me while I was making up! Now I have black lipstick on my chin covering my satanic tatoo...... I'll just have to cut myself to relief me of my anger, way to go dude.
Just... bleh.
QUOTE(SlyBeast @ Dec 28 2006, 03:59 PM)
I hear that ZSNES 1.5 breaks some of the translation patches. (Source: http://www.romhacking.net/)
@Timerever: You mean you had a Gamecube & didn't play any of the Resident Evil games? That's a damn shame.
I did play RE0, but haven't played RE4. Shame on me.
Post by: The Zep Man on December 28, 2006, 08:04:00 AM
To compare: with version 1.42 I could play every game I have without any problem. In my opinion, it's perfect emulation.
In version 1.50, the first game I start is Gundam Wing: Endless Duel. I sometimes use this game as a stress reliever. To my surprise, in-game the moving background of the first stage (in which you fight Deathscythe on a burning ship) was flickering very annoyingly at some places, horizontally.
Although I never had any problem with 1.42, this is the first problem I have encountered with 1.50 and therefore it is 'not stable', at least for me. I will try some other games with 1.50, but will stick with 1.42 as my 'general SNES emulator for my computer'.
[edit]
The 'bug' also occurs at the stage where you are fighting Tallgeese. In the snow with the OZ base in the background.
Post by: The Zep Man on December 28, 2006, 11:06:00 AM
QUOTE(XaRaNn @ Dec 28 2006, 05:48 PM)
I like how the thread had about 5ontopic posts before it switched to Sega vs Nintendo.
What Slybeat said is true, 1.5 does break some translation (something to do with it now using proper rom-mirroring or something).
Since a translation is available for Gundam Wing: Endless Duel, it's probably what your using, and it is probably broke because of that.
I have the original game (of which the signature is correct) and the IPS of the translation which is auto-applied before the game is started. I took the ROM to a separate folder and started it from there. Signature is correct and the 'original' game (which uses Japanese as it's language) still shows the bug.
Post by: VampX on December 28, 2006, 01:30:00 PM
QUOTE(xystus @ Dec 28 2006, 08:14 PM)
Is that so? Waar woon je dan kerel? Had geen idee dat er veel Kaaskoppen op dit forum rondhangen; zeker geen mods! Good to hear
Naarden, ligt zo'n beetje tussen Amsterdam en Hilversum in, en jij?
And now some English, splendid splendid very good ol' chap!
Post by: VampX on December 28, 2006, 04:08:00 PM
QUOTE(Timerever @ Dec 28 2006, 11:21 PM)
Hiiarj nishd jjaas trahsasäs. Hertsn mans iids!
That sounds more like Danish then Portuguese.
Post by: VampX on December 28, 2006, 05:09:00 PM
QUOTE(Timerever @ Dec 29 2006, 12:16 AM)
err.... I was mocking your language, d'oh.
well then you did a very bad job, it looked more like you slammed your fist on the keyboard instead of actually trying to mock it.
oh and mocking a language? come on! are you in preschool or something?
Post by: Timerever on December 29, 2006, 04:07:00 AM
QUOTE(VampX @ Dec 29 2006, 02:16 AM)
well then you did a very bad job, it looked more like you slammed your fist on the keyboard instead of actually trying to mock it.
That's exactly what I did
QUOTE(VampX @ Dec 29 2006, 02:16 AM)
oh and mocking a language? come on! are you in preschool or something?
Nope, but sometimes it feel good to do preschool stuff, like you never wanted to played with plasticine or taking a nap after lunch?
On topic too, ZSnes 1.50 seems to have fixed Super Aleste but I haven't done any full testing, just watched the intro and seems OK. Anyway sooner or later a .51 or .52 bug fixing version will show up to fix those nasty bugs you reported.