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Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: BlackRanger3d on December 26, 2005, 12:48:00 PM
Search is down so....

I am using Mameox. All my roms wok.
The only problem that I am having is that I can not add credits to Alien vs Predator (ARcade).
The game loads up and plays through the intro screen like normal but, when I hit back to add credits (like in the other games) it does not work.


Any help???

TIA
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: Chron Johnson on December 26, 2005, 02:07:00 PM
Yes since it is a capcom game it is best played with FBA-XXX and plays perfectly for me in that program, as do all capcom and neo geo games.
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: Chron Johnson on December 26, 2005, 05:12:00 PM
Let me know if you're successful in convincing everyone you're important.
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: georaldc on December 26, 2005, 06:57:00 PM
lol, I use FBAxxx too but I think mamedox's neogeo & capcom rom compatibility is on par with that emulator already. Not sure though, I just use it for everything else except the capcom/neogeo games
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: BlackRanger3d on December 26, 2005, 09:24:00 PM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Dec 26 2005, 04:37 PM) View Post

......Also make sure controller is in player one port as this is a common error as well.

Good luck let me know if your successfull


Damn I feel like such a nooblet.

Controller was in the wrong port.   blink.gif

Thanks dudes, as always xbox scene is the ture source of xbox know how.

Peace and Happy Holidays. laugh.gif
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: bendermike on December 27, 2005, 01:02:00 AM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Dec 27 2005, 04:54 AM) View Post

Sorry Chron Johnson I think your a total newbe and that out of every forum ive read in last year is one of the most silly ive read, if you dont want to take his word for it I have no problem with ive been running AVP for a few years with no issues on MAMEdoX and even on MameoX. Sorry im unimportant but you guys should really say call a spade a spade this guy is fast to recommend complete rubbish IMO which considering I know most dev of mame and deal with them regulary and wrote alot of the code in it maybe id know a little more than you, or Chron Johnson are you saying you are correct and im being to harsh for you giving bad advice. Or even that your advice is creditble? please reply and
PS anyone tell me not to be harsh on him and I wont be ill leave you guys to it and you can get advice from him as his advice is fast and in his words acurate as.

Im sorry it piss me off to see such rubbish served up as gosspel please someone prove me wrong and Chron Johnson correct. Or please support me and tell him to tone his posts to newbees down so they dont get the wrong ideas as it seems like such a waste to give bad help


MameOx (even mamedox, or mameox128 or bendermameox) runs great cps1/2 games ! For neogeo it's much longer but it works too.... oh well mameox is maybe less easy to use ^^ but like BritneysPairs said, stop saying mameox is not good enough for that, it's a non sens ^^
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: Thraxen on December 27, 2005, 02:07:00 AM
The only I really have to say about this issue is for some reason when I play a game like SFA3 in MAMEoX the audio will stutter from time to time... when it stutters it almost sounds like an echo (a small part gets repeated).  BP tried to help me figure this out a while back and said his didn't do that, but I could never figure out the issue.  This doesn't happen to me with FBAXXX.
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on December 27, 2005, 02:11:00 AM
Sorry for snapping but many times ive corrected him and he insults me but hes allways wrong. I know that sounds silly but a forum is to help and hes fast to offer bad help and mislead new people with false info. Bender get on MSN id like to catchup and merge some ideas together sometime.
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: HK$ on December 27, 2005, 03:07:00 AM
QUOTE(Thraxen @ Dec 27 2005, 10:14 AM) View Post

The only I really have to say about this issue is for some reason when I play a game like SFA3 in MAMEoX the audio will stutter from time to time... when it stutters it almost sounds like an echo (a small part gets repeated).  BP tried to help me figure this out a while back and said his didn't do that, but I could never figure out the issue.  This doesn't happen to me with FBAXXX.


Set frameskipping to auto. If you set it to no frameskip, you will get that problem.
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on December 27, 2005, 03:43:00 AM
that will normally fix it but on some xbox standard drives they run so slow it still skips at times, with a good hdd ive never seen it setup like HK said. Confuses me why the standard drives seek time is so slow compaired to a large multiplater drive but it is. Nice to see raiden 2 coming along HK$ people will love that
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: Chron Johnson on December 27, 2005, 11:16:00 AM
See my only problem is that you constantly attack me without provocation.  Like in the above...I never said anything about CPS1/2/NeoGeo incompatibility with MAMEOX or its ilk.  Just stating a fact...that FBA-XXX plays all such games without flaws.  A good stopgap solution until people more knowledgable about MAMEOX could jump in.  So continue to attack...your plea to the community for someone to speak up to prevent it is too garbled to be intelligible to the majority of XS members.

Edit: I think that last bit is probably provocative too.  I believe it would behoove us both to not bicker in public forums and I shall try to stop fueling your ire.
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on December 27, 2005, 03:17:00 PM
smile.gif take care please for everyones sake with your advice, Im only seeing you making bad advice on MAMEdOX IMO. Any more bad advice ill leave you to it, its fine with me really there are other places to go to get advice if one was to look.

Anyway merry XMAS and a happy new year
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on December 28, 2005, 03:11:00 AM
isnt that what I told you?

or was it confused with one to get rid of screen tearing....
change magnifi and minifi from linear to animorphic   smile.gif

it will still stutter on sfa3 a bit with orig slow drive.

also the level where once you win or lose a massive fire starts in background of xmen vs street fighter, the frame rate skips once the fire starts as well the rest should be perfect smile.gif
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: darkstalker on December 28, 2005, 09:51:00 AM
SFA3 stutters on every drive, regardless of the speed. Playing it on the original 8GB Xbox drive, 80GB, 120GB and now 250GB and it always stutters, regardless. It stutters with 64MB of RAM as well as 128MB of RAM.

The big test for the stuttering isn't really the intro. Get to Bison as a last boss in SFA3 (Ryu has him as a boss, I believe) and watch the slowdown. The combination of the rain falling and the thunder in the background. It's been a little while since I've played it on MAMEdOx, but I seem to remember that setting frameskip to auto and pressing either F11 or F12 on the keyboard to see how many frames were being skipped. It was skipping 11 frames (the maximum, I believe) and it was choppy as all hell. In other words, it (Bison's stage) is completely unplayable with the current versions of MAME on the Xbox because of it. FBAXXX plays it flawlessly and that's why I basically just use FBAXXX for the games it supports and MAME for the rest. Yeah, most of the games do run fine in MAME anyways, but FBA is meant specifically for running those games and probably uses some optimizations that MAME just doesn't have yet and that might be why we see the stuttering in MAME for the more intense games like SFA3. For 99% of the CPS1/2 games, MAME works great though.

Not all emulators are created equal. Some games work better in one program than another. Some emulators run some games better than others. That's life in the emulation world.

"I know most dev of mame and deal with them regulary and wrote alot of the code in it"

I don't want you to think that I'm trying to attack you with this question or anything like that, I'm just simply curious. What code did you contribute to MAME? What drivers have you worked on for MAMEDev? I just don't remember seeing your name anywhere in the changelogs unless you go by something else there.
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on December 28, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
you correct about speed issue on last level as you would be about a speed issue on fire level on Xmen vx street fighter..... the origonal question was about  AVP and its perfect.

I helped out in many areas of mamedoX and spent many days and nights working on it.... I also spent money on it to make it happen in the form of hardware for one of the developers. I only really wrote backend stuff and compiled everything together, I didnt write any of mame and only worked on Mameodx for xbox and it reason like this that makes me keep alot of my stuff internal.

Maybe im lying and defenitly seems a good time to bow out of support, ive seen you around for a while darkstalker and I know your advice will be good, good luck guys

PS AVP was the origonal question and it was very poorly answered IMO, I play SFA3 nearly every day on MAMEdOX and have FBA but like it all in one emulatior FBA as ssid before is great but please answer questions correctly to those that answer them wrong all the time
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: darkstalker on December 28, 2005, 04:17:00 PM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Dec 28 2005, 06:03 PM) View Post

you correct about speed issue on last level as you would be about a speed issue on fire level on Xmen vx street fighter..... the origonal question was about  AVP and its perfect.

I helped out in many areas of mamedoX and spent many days and nights working on it.... I also spent money on it to make it happen in the form of hardware for one of the developers. I only really wrote backend stuff and compiled everything together, I didnt write any of mame and only worked on Mameodx for xbox and it reason like this that makes me keep alot of my stuff internal.

Maybe im lying and defenitly seems a good time to bow out of support, ive seen you around for a while darkstalker and I know your advice will be good, good luck guys

PS AVP was the origonal question and it was very poorly answered IMO, I play SFA3 nearly every day on MAMEdOX and have FBA but like it all in one emulatior FBA as ssid before is great but please answer questions correctly to those that answer them wrong all the time


AVP works perfectly fine as far as I've seen in MAME. I was just saying that MAME isn't perfect, but pretty damn close.

I was just wondering about if you had done anything in the MAME core, that's all. I know you've done a lot of work on the launcher. Like I said, I was just wondering if maybe you've done or were doing some work on the core.
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on December 28, 2005, 05:47:00 PM
Yip only roll back of midway drivers so MK and rampage world tour and narc etc play correctly. But now I see benders done alot of work and HK$ looks like he has raiden 2 stuff nearly going. So in time ill contact Bender and see if I cant merge stuff together HK$ goes it alone pretty much.

Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: Chron Johnson on December 29, 2005, 12:22:00 AM
Just because you hate me doesn't mean it's bad advice to use FBA-XXX in conjunction with MAME.  Nor does our mutual hatred make all my advice bad.  Nor yours, nor mamedox nor its brethren.  I like your latest work with your 1.5 and hope it will be incorporated into any possible 0.97+ based MAME.  Happy gamin'.
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: Nemo1985X on January 02, 2006, 07:05:00 PM
QUOTE(BlackRanger3d @ Dec 26 2005, 01:55 PM) View Post

Search is down so....

I am using Mameox. All my roms wok.
The only problem that I am having is that I can not add credits to Alien vs Predator (ARcade).
The game loads up and plays through the intro screen like normal but, when I hit back to add credits (like in the other games) it does not work.
Any help???

TIA



Are You using the "Euro" Version of the game ??
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: Chron Johnson on January 02, 2006, 09:01:00 PM
You'd say "use the search" if I hadn't opined first?  When the first three words of his query were "search is down"?  I'm the one who gives bad advice?
Title: Mameox - Alien Vs Predator
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on January 02, 2006, 09:30:00 PM
I have all versions I am normally running avsp rom cheers.


Sorry Chron Johnson about the search time had passed and I didnt he read it, for it no matter what you say it was very bad advice and had been covered many times if you can me why AVP on mamedOX runs in any way bad (even the boot times are good) then maybe ill understand your post, if it was about a later CS2 game that required VM peroperly mambe I would have understood, but as is im sorry no matter what you say I think (and am 99.999%) sure that was bad advice espeically after what I said was normally the problem ummmmmm actually was. Also taking into acount he had the rom running on the emulator the work to do what you say compaired to plugging in controller might seemed like bad advice if he had done what you said.