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OG Xbox Forums => Modchip Forums => Team Xodus Chips (Xenium) => Topic started by: bigjonny on April 10, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
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i have already talkked to one guy and i just wanted to check with everyone else about which chip to get. the sp.ice or just the regular solderless ice. ive heard they are the same but the sp.ice is a better fit. can anyone else help me out a little. <
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I"ve installed a ton of xecuters (& only recommended them for a long time). Then came the 1.6's with their PITA rebuilds....not hard but just a pain. A buddy of mine finally convinced me to get a Xenium, so I slapped in an SP Ice in about 2 minutes & haven't looked back. I know they're more expensive, but VERY much worth it. I don't know if those two are the same, but I bought an SP Ice & love it. <
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Chances are I'm that "one guy" you're referring to, but... Just in case you didn't see it in your other thread here is my opinion on the S.P.ICE vs the Standard Solderless kit on non-1.6 xboxen (like yours):
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?sho...dpost&p=2498683 <
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yeh u were that one guy and thanks. so i should be fine with just the solderless. but heres another question. should i just go with soldering it and save some money if i can solder or my dad. he says its no problem but i thought it was another way to mess up. <
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There is just as much risk using a solderless adapter as soldering it. I find it very difficult to damage the board by soldering unless you do some really stupid things like hold the iron to the board for long periods of time. Soldered is always better. <
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Yeah, if you can solder/know someone that can solder, go with a soldered install. Especially on your 1.4. Just do a pinheader insteall; it's a cakewalk
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im thinking i may just go with teh spice chip because it seems to be the better one but i just wanted to see if anyoen else had an opinion <
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After reading the information in this site, I'm a bit confused about one thing. Everybody within the forum seems to be saying that the SP adaptor within the s.p.ice kit is not necessary for earlier versions of the xbox. However when I read the wording on most of the sites selling the kits, they note that the sp portion of the kit is compatible with all versions of the xbox. With that said, I understand that it will work fine without the sp portion, but what would happen if I were to install it anyway on an older xbox? Why would I want to know? Just cuz :P Plus since I have a couple days before my kit arrives, I figure why not find out what I can in the mean time. <
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The spice adapter is more or less useless for <1.6 xboxs because there already is a much cheaper adapter for those. Most resellers sell the old adapter for $4 or $5 vs $30 for the spice adapter. The spice will work fine on any version, but if you don't have a 1.6 you can save a lot of money by getting the old one. <
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But the question is what would happen if I were to install the adaptor anyway? I understand that its pretty much useless but what I really want to know is if there be any adverse effects from doing this at all? I ordered the entire kit before I found this forum, I had it shipped via ground so I have a few days to lament the extra 10 bucks I spent for the kit. <
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The white pcb (the curved part) is useless on anything besides a 1.6. The clear guide won't fit and the holes wouldn't line up with the wires and you could possibly damage the chip and or the board by forcing the wires into holes they aren't designed for. You only use the black part of the adapter on anything other than 1.6. <
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Now that answers the question, thanks! <
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so youre saying the part that has the 4 lights on it with wires hanging over is only for the 1.6s? so is that a definete yesto just go with the solderless ice instead of the spice? <
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Yup. <
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ok well i think i may still get it just because its 15 bucks more and my v1.1 is pretty old now and if it were to go out and i had to get a new box then i would have the right chip. other wise i would have to pay like 30 for the peice so i think i may just go with that. thanks for the help. <
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After many attempts to get my solderless adapter to work with no success, I finally reluctantly solder the pins in. Although I'm not the best solderer by far, being my first time and all, my friend and I agree that it was a very good attempt. I put everything back together and using my own 30 gage wire I soldered it to the D0 point on the chip and used the D0 hook wire from the solderless adapter to connect to the D0 point on the top of the mother board (not soldered btw). I put the chip on and presto, nothing! I have a boot up 3 times and then frag(flashing red and green). So i try everything for the next 30 minutes to try and get it working and nothing still. So, I take off the chip and try to boot up to the original MS bios and it still frags. Now I'm thinking I've screwed up my motherboard royal! So, before I mess up anything further beyond repair, can anyone help me? Thanks!