Post by: freakdave on September 17, 2004, 04:26:00 PM
And since i share my presents with the public,i'm proud to release Surreal64_FDB(freakdave's birthday release).
It lets you change the flicker filter value of Surreal64,e.g. turning the flicker filter off results in a ultrasharp and crisp picture.
Blurryness is no more :-)
Zelda,Mario,Starfox.All games look awesome now.
Heck,even the blurry Banjo-Kazooie looks almost like a Dreamcast game now !
All the XBOX-blurryness is simply gone.
An option to resize the screen will probably follow in a later release(I hope v2.0 is out until then)
UPDATE !
Surreal64_FDB_v3 :
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Changelog --------- * Added: You can now change Surreal's Vertex Processing mode * Added: You can now choose between 5 texture filter modes * Added: Some credits  * Fixed: Cleaned up some code Misc ------- * Full sourcecode is included Vertex Processing / Texture filter FAQ ------------------------------------------------------------ You now have the possibility to change Surreal's VP mode. Note that UltraHLE has its own graphics renderer and therefore its own entry. Open Surreal.ini and search for these 2 entries: Default UHLE Vertex Processing Mode=1 Default EMU64 Vertex Processing Mode=1 Valid modes are : 0 = Pure Device (don't use this setting unless you know what you're doing.Not recommended) 1 = Software Vertex Processing (this is Surreal's default setting.Recommended) 2 = Hardware Vertex Processing (games may run faster and even better (UltraHLE and Diddy Kong Racing) with this setting,but it may also cause graphical glitches in certain games.Not recommended) 3 = Mixed Vertex Processing (Specifies mixed (both software and hardware) vertex processing.Not recommended) You now also have the possibility to choose between 5 different texture filter modes. Note that UltraHLE has its own graphics renderer and therefore its own entry. Open Surreal.ini and search for these 2 entries: Default UHLE Texturefilter=2 Default EMU64 Texturefilter=2 Valid modes are : 0 = This mode does NOT work as it's only used for Mip Mapping.I've added it only for the sake of completeness. 1 = Point Filtering (Fast but low quality.Use this if you want to play your games with PS1-like graphics) 2 = Linear Filtering (Surreal's default setting) 3 = Anisotropic Filtering (Slower but better quality.My favorite btw  )4 = Flatcubic Filtering (Cubic Filter mode.Looks almost like Point Filter mode) 5 = Gaussiancubic Filtering (Cubic Filter mode with a different cubic kernel) Misc: Don't try to change the values XOffset,YOffset,XStretch and YStretch,as they don't work in this release. DO NOT DELETE THEM THOUGH ! |
Note : This is still Surreal v1.0 !
Have fun with this one
Post by: Arius on September 17, 2004, 04:33:00 PM
I wont be getting it as I dont use Surreal much anymore, but its allways nice to see open source progects being updated by people
Happy birthday also.
Post by: deathx88 on September 17, 2004, 04:48:00 PM
and happy birthday too
Post by: razuraw on September 17, 2004, 04:57:00 PM
Post by: anekin007 on September 17, 2004, 05:06:00 PM
i would love to test it out.. is it just a present for yourself? hehe 
happy b day!
Post by: freakdave on September 17, 2004, 05:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (anekin007 @ Sep 18 2004, 01:09 AM) |
| i would love to test it out.. is it just a present for yourself? hehe happy b day! |
first : thanks for all congratulations (including the ones to come)
@anekin007
no,i always share my presents with the public
the package should be up on XBINS in the next few hours.Just wait and be patient.
Post by: VampX on September 17, 2004, 05:52:00 PM
Post by: Vejita on September 17, 2004, 07:03:00 PM
This was a feature I requested for v2.0 of Surreal, a flicker filter!
Thanks dave, I hope oDD/Lantus add this nifty option into the next official release or the next CVS build.
Screen resize would also be awesome, glad you are working towards that too.
This post has been edited by Vejita: Sep 18 2004, 02:05 AM <
Post by: nagmine on September 17, 2004, 06:57:00 PM
Post by: Omegasis on September 17, 2004, 09:49:00 PM
I hope you can release the option to resize the screen soon.
And Happy Birthday!!!
See ya.
Post by: Viewtiful Asher on September 17, 2004, 10:09:00 PM
feliz cumpleaños cabron! ya eres todo un hombre!
Post by: Iriez on September 17, 2004, 10:15:00 PM
Post by: scryed on September 17, 2004, 10:26:00 PM
Post by: stereofreak2000 on September 17, 2004, 11:56:00 PM
Hell of a present!!
Post by: Mr. Chips on September 18, 2004, 12:08:00 AM
Post by: ofbz on September 18, 2004, 01:34:00 AM
happy b-day dude!!!
Post by: love_tropicana on September 18, 2004, 02:10:00 AM
Post by: rehab on September 18, 2004, 02:10:00 AM
Happy bd man!
Post by: chilin_dude on September 18, 2004, 03:12:00 AM
Post by: XDelusion on September 18, 2004, 03:48:00 AM
...with with gold trim!
Post by: 0123456 on September 18, 2004, 04:43:00 AM
Any chance of a post Birthday version with the 128 MB support turned on?
Post by: kimota2004 on September 18, 2004, 04:43:00 AM
edit: and happy birthday.
Post by: Dolfhin on September 18, 2004, 05:59:00 AM
Thanks for sharing your present with us. I have a new TV now and I can turn the flicker filter to 2 withouth seeing any flickers so I higly appricate this
Thx and have a nice birthday
Post by: FrIeD-GoAt on September 18, 2004, 06:52:00 AM
- Small question, is Flicker filter for HDTVs only? or can my regular non flatscreen tv show the differences?
Post by: Ed_209 on September 18, 2004, 07:00:00 AM
Post by: devlkore on September 18, 2004, 07:27:00 AM
Lylat Wars and Star Wars episode 1 Racer look so cool now.
ThanX.
Post by: yutaro on September 18, 2004, 09:34:00 AM
I just get to the loading screen and it hangs at 0%
Post by: freakdave on September 18, 2004, 09:42:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| I was curious if this 'flicker filter' option will affect perfermance at all? Not sure if it is done through xbox hardware or not, framerates and everything just the same? |
the performance should not be affected at all...
| QUOTE |
| Small question, is Flicker filter for HDTVs only? or can my regular non flatscreen tv show the differences? |
it's for all common TVs.Try it out and you'll see the difference...
| QUOTE |
| Any chance of a post Birthday version with the 128 MB support turned on? |
nope,i'm sorry.This is not going to happen (i don't have an 128MB upgrade)
| QUOTE |
| Happy birthday, now you're 62 you're getting old |
lol,you would certainly be right in 40 years
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| the least we can do to give back to the guy is have a group fund for a ben pan... ...with with gold trim |
I can just do with that..
Post by: 0123456 on September 18, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Sep 18 2004, 05:45 PM) |
| nope,i'm sorry.This is not going to happen (i don't have an 128MB upgrade) |
See now thats a damn shame - all the stuff you've put into the scene and noone hooked you up with an upgrade?
PM me and that 128 is yours
Post by: devlkore on September 18, 2004, 10:55:00 AM
| QUOTE (0123456 @ Sep 18 2004, 04:59 PM) |
| See now thats a damn shame - all the stuff you've put into the scene and noone hooked you up with an upgrade? PM me and that 128 is yours |
Now that's a birthday present.
Post by: Mr. Chips on September 18, 2004, 02:37:00 PM
Freakdave, how difficult would it be to make the joystick less sensitive?
thx
Post by: Viewtiful Asher on September 18, 2004, 02:46:00 PM
i really want to play conker with your adds.
Post by: freakdave on September 18, 2004, 03:02:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Freakdave, how difficult would it be to make the joystick less sensitive? |
i don't know,but i'll look into it for sure..
| QUOTE |
| hey freakdave...its there a way to use surreal 1.1 (drunkengards) with your adds? i really want to play conker with your adds. |
i guess you mean the CVS build.well,i think it should be possible to implement this feature into this build.But i don't see why i should work with the CVS build : Conker does already work with v1.0 ??
Post by: Rodent on September 18, 2004, 03:27:00 PM
i am located in austria/europe,
so if youre from europe too,
i also am willing to gift you with an 128 MB ugrade
thanks for beeing!
rgds
alex
Post by: freakdave on September 18, 2004, 03:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (Rodent @ Sep 18 2004, 11:23 PM) |
| happy birthday, i am located in austria/europe, so if youre from europe too, i also am willing to gift you with an 128 MB ugrade thanks for beeing! rgds alex |
great news
i'm from germany,so this should be no problem at all...
PM me please...
Post by: philbee on September 18, 2004, 04:04:00 PM
Post by: kimota2004 on September 18, 2004, 04:55:00 PM
Post by: VampX on September 18, 2004, 05:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Sep 19 2004, 01:47 AM) |
| great news i'm from germany,so this should be no problem at all... PM me please... |
Hey Neighbour! a dutchy here
Post by: Dolfhin on September 18, 2004, 06:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (VampX @ Sep 19 2004, 02:02 AM) |
| Hey Neighbour! a dutchy here |
Same here
Post by: RocafellaSqualie on September 18, 2004, 06:38:00 PM
Post by: Viewtiful Asher on September 18, 2004, 07:52:00 PM
and in the cvs build...its playable with the complete conker face.
Post by: Vejita on September 18, 2004, 08:18:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on September 18, 2004, 09:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (Viewtiful Asher @ Sep 18 2004, 08:48 PM) |
| but the face of conker is all with glitches...in the normal surreal. and in the cvs build...its playable with the complete conker face. |
Playable? Yea, if by playable you mean tons of sound glitches and constant freezing....sure.
The CVS has not been stabalized in quite sometime. It has not been updated either. Anything compiled from the CVS (if you even figure out how to fix the errors that currently prevent you from compiling) is pointless, as it is inferior to 1.0 in regards to stability.
Post by: Morien on September 18, 2004, 10:53:00 PM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Sep 19 2004, 04:58 AM) |
| (if you even figure out how to fix the errors that currently prevent you from compiling) |
*phew*
It isn't just me then
P.S Happy birthday. Perhaps you could help oDD and Lantus by adding little bits? Just a thought, those two are overworked, and it's not Australian to work too hard (atleast not for me)
Post by: Guacamaya on September 18, 2004, 11:33:00 PM
some games doesnt work but its a great job to play n64 games in xbox
happy birthday.
Post by: freakdave on September 19, 2004, 08:07:00 AM
I've fiddled around with the gamepad sensitivity values and i 'think' i've found a decent setting.First i played with my real N64 to get a good feeling of the original controller.After that i started to change surreal's values until i had the same feeling of the XBOX controller.The games i played with Surreal and N64 were Zelda (slingshot),Banjo-Tooie (egg crosshair) and GoldenEye.I'm now going to add the possibility to let you change the settings by yourself via the config file.After that i'm gonna implement a screen resize function (hope this works).
Post by: GogoAckman on September 19, 2004, 08:16:00 AM
.I was planning to do something like that, I would like to change the menu and make a menu like fbaxxx (screen with the game on the right and add video options ....), I am currently only beginning, but if you want, when I get this over, I could contact you
.One question, why not just add filter flicker in surreal.ini?
Post by: Iriez on September 19, 2004, 09:11:00 AM
| QUOTE (GogoAckman @ Sep 19 2004, 09:19 AM) |
| first of all, happy birthday . I was planning to do something like that, I would like to change the menu and make a menu like fbaxxx (screen with the game on the right and add video options ....), I am currently only beginning, but if you want, when I get this over, I could contact you .One question, why not just add filter flicker in surreal.ini? |
Skinning ability would be nice, but i would have to say surreal has the best UI ever created for any xbox homebrew. I would wager that the majority would agree with me, and changing the interface (permanantly) would only cause people to complain.
Post by: GogoAckman on September 19, 2004, 10:06:00 AM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Sep 19 2004, 05:14 PM) |
| Skinning ability would be nice, but i would have to say surreal has the best UI ever created for any xbox homebrew. I would wager that the majority would agree with me, and changing the interface (permanantly) would only cause people to complain. |
ok, noted
, I ll find another way to include submenu then .
Post by: philbee on September 19, 2004, 10:22:00 AM
Post by: deathx88 on September 19, 2004, 10:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Sep 19 2004, 04:03 PM) |
| Status Update : I've fiddled around with the gamepad sensitivity values and i 'think' i've found a decent setting.First i played with my real N64 to get a good feeling of the original controller.After that i started to change surreal's values until i had the same feeling of the XBOX controller.The games i played with Surreal and N64 were Zelda (slingshot),Banjo-Tooie (egg crosshair) and GoldenEye.I'm now going to add the possibility to let you change the settings by yourself via the config file.After that i'm gonna implement a screen resize function (hope this works). |
thats great
Post by: scryed on September 19, 2004, 11:04:00 AM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Sep 19 2004, 05:14 PM) |
| Skinning ability would be nice, but i would have to say surreal has the best UI ever created for any xbox homebrew. I would wager that the majority would agree with me, and changing the interface (permanantly) would only cause people to complain. |
I would of liked to see an ability to move around buttons and such because it would make the skins that I'm trying to build a lot more smoother, and easier... I know sometimes people choose style over compatability, but I like to make skins that appease both... Also I would of like an ability to have animated gifs to be displayed, but thats not going happen.
And I'm not complaining just FYI (I love the improvements) if anyone brings out a Surreal can you please patch the XBE files to retail versions, so there isnt a million threads from people asking how to fix it. Thanks
Post by: 0123456 on September 19, 2004, 11:52:00 AM
Where's the third cos they say these things come in threes Great news about the sensitivity controls - your work is greatly appreciated. Seeing as you will soon be the proud owner of a 128 board (have you decided which of us you would like to take up on the offer?) how about turning on that 128 core now?
Post by: jonathan2007 on September 19, 2004, 02:21:00 PM
Post by: Mr. Chips on September 19, 2004, 02:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (freakdave) |
| Status Update : I've fiddled around with the gamepad sensitivity values and i 'think' i've found a decent setting.First i played with my real N64 to get a good feeling of the original controller.After that i started to change surreal's values until i had the same feeling of the XBOX controller.The games i played with Surreal and N64 were Zelda (slingshot),Banjo-Tooie (egg crosshair) and GoldenEye.I'm now going to add the possibility to let you change the settings by yourself via the config file.After that i'm gonna implement a screen resize function (hope this works). |
that's great! you are a god!
| QUOTE (0123456) |
| freakdave - Not one but two birthday 128 upgrade offers for you now Where's the third cos they say these things come in threes Great news about the sensitivity controls - your work is greatly appreciated. Seeing as you will soon be the proud owner of a 128 board (have you decided which of us you would like to take up on the offer?) how about turning on that 128 core now? |
I myself have a 128 board, and really I think this feature can wait. By the time that Freakdave gets the board(s?), oDD and lantus will have released the CVS (like they said they would) with support. The only real improvements will be for Perfect Dark IMO. So, lets appreciate the great stuff Freakdave has done for this emulator.
Seeing your work with surreal, I think I'd like to try out DrillerX
| QUOTE (scryed) |
| And I'm not complaining just FYI (I love the improvements) if anyone brings out a Surreal can you please patch the XBE files to retail versions, so there isnt a million threads from people asking how to fix it. Thanks |
this is the retail version. All you would have to do is replace all the files except for the cfg file. (which has your rom directory info)
Post by: A@ron on September 19, 2004, 02:39:00 PM
Post by: freakdave on September 19, 2004, 03:06:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| I ll find another way to include submenu then |
contact me if you're done with it. hope we can work together on this thingie
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| One question, why not just add filter flicker in surreal.ini? |
Because i didn't have so much time then
.All settings are now loaded through Surreal's ini file.The *.cfg was just a temporary solution.Well,to give if you an idea of what's to come next,this is how my ini file looks now :.
.
.
Default Flicker Filter=0
Default Soft Display Filter=0
Default XOffset=13.2
Default YOffset=5.1
Default XStretch=0.0
Default YStretch=0.0
| QUOTE |
| Great news about the sensitivity controls - your work is greatly appreciated. Seeing as you will soon be the proud owner of a 128 board (have you decided which of us you would like to take up on the offer?) |
if you're from Europe,contact me.I haven't made a decision yet,but thank you for your offer anyway
| QUOTE |
| ...oDD and lantus will have released the CVS (like they said they would) with support |
this is why 128MB support has low priority for me.
| QUOTE |
| Alles Gute Zum Geburtstag. Schön, noch nen deutschen hier zu sehen!! (happy.gif) keep up the great work!! |
Besten Dank auch :-)
Post by: SkmNet on September 19, 2004, 03:37:00 PM
)keep up the great work!!
Post by: tekn0 on September 19, 2004, 04:35:00 PM
Post by: scryed on September 19, 2004, 04:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mr. Chips @ Sep 19 2004, 10:27 PM) |
| this is the retail version. All you would have to do is replace all the files except for the cfg file. (which has your rom directory info) |
Dexbe says they are patched as debug versions... So I'm not saying your not telling the truth or anything but I'm gonna believe dexbe above all else. I'll patch them myself, so I know its copasetic with me.
Post by: ripshitraw on September 19, 2004, 05:22:00 PM
Are you good enough that you think you could incorporate the rice plugin to it?
Because I really think the creators have given up and I'm sure we would all donate to your cause if you really could do it.
Post by: greenmile on September 19, 2004, 05:29:00 PM
| QUOTE (ripshitraw @ Sep 20 2004, 01:18 AM) |
| wow freakdave thanks a bunch. Are you good enough that you think you could incorporate the rice plugin to it? Because I really think the creators have given up and I'm sure we would all donate to your cause if you really could do it. |
are you dumb? the creators have put more time into this project than obviously you recognize/appreciate. Thanks for this hacked version of Surreal, I'm sure it's great, but I'll be waiting for Surreal v2.
Post by: 0123456 on September 19, 2004, 05:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (greenmile @ Sep 20 2004, 01:25 AM) |
| are you dumb? the creators have put more time into this project than obviously you recognize/appreciate. Thanks for this hacked version of Surreal, I'm sure it's great, but I'll be waiting for Surreal v2. |
You do that, fucko - the rest of us will enjoy this update.
Post by: nagmine on September 19, 2004, 06:36:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| personaly i think its great some minor fixes that can hold is over till the big update is totaly cool with me. But i would say that everyone should calm down and not start begging for stuff like plugin update and stuff. Leave that up to surrealv2 when its released. this is just minor cool updates |
Post by: Frieza on September 19, 2004, 08:12:00 PM
Anyways thanks for the release Dave really appreciate the update
And a late Happy birthday as well CHEEERSSS!!!!
Post by: A@ron on September 19, 2004, 09:06:00 PM
Post by: nagmine on September 19, 2004, 09:22:00 PM
... one of these days im gona have to learn
Post by: yutaro on September 20, 2004, 07:48:00 AM
thanks a lot freakdave!!
Post by: scryed on September 20, 2004, 09:17:00 AM
Post by: Dolfhin on September 20, 2004, 09:14:00 AM
| QUOTE (scryed @ Sep 20 2004, 05:13 PM) |
| I was wondering if anyone has UDE2 and has SurrealFDB working?... Right now I'm having difficulties with it. SurrealV1.0 works fine on mine, but I'm wondering why FDB isn't. The program won't load at all. Its as if its trying to redirect the loading back to browsing on my dashboard (evo-x 3935). Thank you very much |
Try patching it with UnleashX or a other patcher or try using a newer BIOS (IND-BIOS is a good one) it works perfect here!
Post by: freakdave on September 20, 2004, 09:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (scryed @ Sep 20 2004, 05:13 PM) |
| I was wondering if anyone has UDE2 and has SurrealFDB working?... Right now I'm having difficulties with it. SurrealV1.0 works fine on mine, but I'm wondering why FDB isn't. The program won't load at all. Its as if its trying to redirect the loading back to browsing on my dashboard (evo-x 3935). Thank you very much |
Have you tried launching it with another Dashboard ?
Maybe you should checkout this thread(Kernel,Videomode)
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=227528
SurrealFDB is compiled in Release Mode btw.And i'm using UX as Dashboard,just FYI.
Status Update :
I've some major problems with my screen resize function,therefore it's unlikely that it's going to be available in the next release.Changing and loading controller sensitivity values from Surreal.ini works so far,i'm just cleaning up my code and testing different filter modes :
UltraHLE Mario before :
UltraHLE Mario with PSX-like graphics
:
Post by: philbee on September 20, 2004, 10:04:00 AM
Post by: 0123456 on September 20, 2004, 10:21:00 AM
Post by: Viewtiful Asher on September 20, 2004, 10:23:00 AM
that psx filther is great!and hey conker dont work pretty well in surreal 1.0
but in the other cvs release conker worked with skippy sound but it definetly worked better than surreal 1.0 (all the other games sucked in the cvs)
anyway to make it work like the cvs...only conker maybe?
Post by: scryed on September 20, 2004, 10:50:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Try patching it with UnleashX or a other patcher or try using a newer BIOS (IND-BIOS is a good one) it works perfect here! |
UnleashX says it doesn't need to be patched. Tried to load it from UnleashX and it freezes on the load screen. I might be wrong but I though bios was for people who have chips because I do not have a regular bios with UDE2 because of nkpatcher? Kernal 5838 for the method is the m8 bios I think.
| QUOTE |
| Have you tried launching it with another Dashboard ? Maybe you should checkout this thread(Kernel,Videomode) http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=227528 |
Read the forum, but it was about installing UDE/UDE2...
Also deleted my save files to see if that worked, but sadly to say Im about out of options from what I see. Thank you everyone for the help.
Post by: Mr. Chips on September 20, 2004, 10:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (Viewtiful Asher) |
| and hey conker dont work pretty well in surreal 1.0 but in the other cvs release conker worked with skippy sound but it definetly worked better than surreal 1.0 (all the other games sucked in the cvs) anyway to make it work like the cvs...only conker maybe? |
I think that was only because of the new video plugin.
Wasn't that "version" buggy?
..Where did you get it anyways?
Post by: 0123456 on September 20, 2004, 11:05:00 AM
Hopefully this independent action will spur oDD and Lantus into releasing something for us instead of just sitting on the code and laughing like xbox-scene versions of Skeletor.
For those of you who don't know who Skeletor is here is a picture of the dastardly villian in a slightly camp pose:
Post by: freakdave on September 20, 2004, 10:58:00 AM
| QUOTE (Viewtiful Asher @ Sep 20 2004, 06:26 PM) |
| that psx filther is great! and hey conker dont work pretty well in surreal 1.0 but in the other cvs release conker worked with skippy sound but it definetly worked better than surreal 1.0 (all the other games sucked in the cvs) anyway to make it work like the cvs...only conker maybe? |
The CVS is based on a newer plugin.In order to get Conker running i'd have to incorporate the gfx plugin from the CVS and make sure that all other games run as before ( i think this is impossible) and besides,such a task is definately beyond my coding skills(if any
).Nevertheless,i'm trying to do my best to improve Surreal64...| QUOTE |
| Could you turn on the 128 mode? Plllllleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaasssseeeeeeeee |
i don't know if i can.but i think the authors knew why they didn't 'activate' the 128 mode.Seems like you'll have to wait for Surreal 2.0
Post by: 0123456 on September 20, 2004, 11:12:00 AM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Sep 20 2004, 07:01 PM) |
| i don't know if i can.but i think the authors knew why they didn't 'activate' the 128 mode.Seems like you'll have to wait for Surreal 2.0 |
Care to elaborate? They always went along the "it was an oversight on our part as the code is there and in place but just needs to be activated" spiel.
Is this not the case? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH I need 128 support.
Post by: Mr. Chips on September 20, 2004, 11:12:00 AM
| QUOTE (freakdave) |
| this is why 128MB support has low priority for me. |
ps. you don't need 128 support. Lantus tested it with his current build and said it only helped Perfect Dark. Just play it on PC for crying out loud.
pss. FD, it looks like you've made some great new changes!
Looking forward to the 4 player bond parties with steady shooting!
Post by: 0123456 on September 20, 2004, 11:19:00 AM
If that is not the case and there is some big conspiracy (of Skeletor sized proportions) that you have uncovered in the code then please share. I have my tin foil hat with coat hangers at the ready (actually I wear it all the time, just in case because you never know).
The main reason for me wanting to use my full 128 is because a) I have it so why not and
I want to see how some titles fare with extra memory and c) Perfect Darkness.Either way - kudos on the work you are putting in, it is appreciated and I'm quite sure you have now became the patron saint of xb-s and calmed all the salivating dogs who were within an inch of biting each other in a feral display of anger due to the lack of Surreal updates.
It's a mad world in which we live - or is it my world thats mad?
Post by: 0123456 on September 20, 2004, 11:18:00 AM
| QUOTE (Mr. Chips @ Sep 20 2004, 07:15 PM) | ||
ps. you don't need 128 support. Lantus tested it with his current build and said it only helped Perfect Dark. Just play it on PC for crying out loud. pss. FD, it looks like you've made some great new changes! Looking forward to the 4 player bond parties with steady shooting! |
That quote was in the old BM days....
For those what my acronym stands for it means Before Memory (upgrade) days. I would have said BMU but then some of you might have made bumming jokes and I just couldn't take that today. I (along with another member) have offered freakdave a free memory upgrade (that reminds me - you haven't contacted me regarding it yet, give me a shout please).
Back on track (but still off the rails) - I have a prehistoric PC, it runs Ye Olde Windoes 95 (thats 1795) and is powered by stream. This kind of prevents me from emulating anything which means I have to place all my chips on the Xbox in the roulette table that is emulation.
Also, my Xbox has a slow HD which causes some games to stutter slightly as Surreal accesses the HD (I can tell because the access light flickers at the stutter points) - I'm hoping that the 128 support will prevent this as the whole file will be in memory. And yes, this occurs on the smaller (Mario Kart 64 etc..) ROMs as well.
So please Mr Chips, do stop crying out loud. I'm sure those big boys will give you your ball back and it will all be better again.
Chin up, old chap.
Post by: Mr. Chips on September 20, 2004, 11:25:00 AM
I also would like 128 support..but the sooner the stick is fixed the better. That was on the top of my list.
If fd says he doesn't want to work on that atm, well that means he will probably take a look at it in the future.
You can only hope right now, buddy. Begging will get you a timeout or detention (ie. no recess
)
Post by: 0123456 on September 20, 2004, 11:45:00 AM
Strange isn't it that its supported on the crappest emulator (Project 64 if I'm correct) and not on the one that plays everything perfectly....
This is probably my only major gripe - if it worked I wouldn't be that bothered about Surreal V2.0, Skeletor and Skeletor could keep it amongst themselves as a private joke if they wished. I mainly want to see it in action just too see if the HD access thing stops.
Damn my curiosity and obsessive personality type - but hey, if you've got it you may as well use it.
And use it I am.
Here is a picture of Janice from The Sopranos, I'm sure you will agree that she is one annoying twat - infer what you may
Post by: Master-Chief on September 20, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Sep 17 2004, 06:29 PM) |
| Well,today is my birthday and i've made myself a little birthday present. And since i share my presents with the public,i'm proud to release Surreal64_FDB(freakdave's birthday release). It lets you change the flicker filter value of Surreal64,e.g. turning the flicker filter off results in a ultrasharp and crisp picture. Blurryness is no more :-) The flicker filter value can be changed in the config file ('flicker.cfg') Zelda,Mario,Starfox.All games look awesome now. Heck,even the blurry Banjo-Kazooie looks almost like a Dreamcast game now ! All the XBOX-blurryness is simply gone. An option to resize the screen will probably follow in a later release(I hope v2.0 is out until then) Note : This is still Surreal v1.0 ! Misc : Source code is included Have fun with this one |
LMAO... Sept. 17th was my brother-in-laws birthday.
Post by: Running_with_Scissors on September 20, 2004, 03:02:00 PM
.......So, Skeletor finally admits that he doesn't mind some "Thunder-punch He-man" action, huh?
It's about time he brought his skeleton out of the closet.
:cough:
FreakDave, love your work.
Post by: rehab on September 20, 2004, 03:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (Running_with_Scissors @ Sep 20 2004, 10:58 PM) |
| .......So, Skeletor finally admits that he doesn't mind some "Thunder-punch He-man" action, huh? It's about time he brought his skeleton out of the closet. :cough: |
LOL!
Nah, j/k...
Thanks FD for looking into that sensitivity issue..great work to try to keep everybody satisfied until Surreal V2 drops.
Props!
Post by: 0123456 on September 20, 2004, 04:06:00 PM
Post by: freakdave on September 20, 2004, 04:54:00 PM
I've just released Surreal64_FDB_v2 !
| QUOTE |
| About Surreal64_FDB --------------------------------- This is a modified version (FDB = freakdave's birthday release) of Surreal64 v1.0. Changelog ----------------- * Changed: Slightly modified background image * Changed: You don't need the 'flicker.cfg' anymore. All settings (including Flicker Filter) are now loaded through 'Surreal.ini' * Added: Soft Display Filter ( 0 = disabled / 1 = enabled ) * Added: 3 values to let you change/tweak the sensitivity of the thumbsticks via 'Surreal.ini' Misc ------- * Full sourcecode is included Sensitivity FAQ ------------------------ There are 3 values in 'Surreal.ini' which you can adjust.Surreal's default values are : Default NPad Deadzone=8000 Default XPad Deadzone=0.24 Default XPad Summand=0.5 Default NPad Deadzone: The lower the value of the deadzone,the more sensitive are your thumbsticks. My advise is to start adjusting this value first.For 'fine-tuning' use the XPad Deadzone value. Use 500 if you want a very sensitive thumbstick. My favorite value is : 12000 Default XPad Deadzone: The lower the value of the deadzone,the more sensitive are your thumbsticks. Use it for fine-tuning only. My favorite value is : 0.34 Default XPad Summand: Use this value with care.Try 4.0 and you'll see the difference. My favorite value is : 0.25 If you think you've found a decent value for a certain game,then share it on the X-S Emulation forums please. Misc: Don't try to change the values XOffset,YOffset,XStretch and YStretch,as they won't work in this release. DO NOT DELETE THEM THOUGH ! |
Post by: philbee on September 20, 2004, 05:06:00 PM
Post by: 0123456 on September 20, 2004, 06:13:00 PM
Whats the status on that 128 support (had to ask
)?
Post by: lantus on September 20, 2004, 06:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Sep 20 2004, 11:50 PM) |
| It's time for a new release folks I've just released Surreal64_FDB_v2 ! |
be careful with changing from software vertex processing to hardware vertex processing freakdave.
for the longest time rice was developing his pluging with an old Geforce MX220 card which didnt suppost hardware vertex processing - as such you will get graphical issues. Check out Diddy Kong Racing for an example of what i mean.
Post by: freakdave on September 20, 2004, 07:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Sep 21 2004, 02:40 AM) |
| be careful with changing from software vertex processing to hardware vertex processing freakdave. for the longest time rice was developing his pluging with an old Geforce MX220 card which didnt suppost hardware vertex processing - as such you will get graphical issues. Check out Diddy Kong Racing for an example of what i mean. |
fixed !
thx 4 the info !
but...
there's a 'problem' with UltraHLE.If i run diddy kong racing with UHLE and the default settings (software vertex processing),it boots,then it shows the controller pak screen and then it hangs.In hardware vertex processing mode though,it boots and runs the game(but then there are your gfx glitches you've mentioned).I've tested several other games with UHLE in HWVP mode,and they all run fine(without gfx glitches)...
Post by: lantus on September 20, 2004, 07:54:00 PM
recommend you leave the UltraHLE code as is
Post by: freakdave on September 20, 2004, 08:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Sep 21 2004, 03:50 AM) |
| sorry i didnt make it clearer. Rice's plugin is only used in 1964xand PJ64x- UltraHLE uses its own graphics renderer i believe recommend you leave the UltraHLE code as is |
i didn't touch 1964x/PJ64x anyway.
As for UltraHLE(which has definately it's own gfx renderer,i've just looked into the code) :
I'll leave everything as is...
Thanx 4 your help lantus !
-------------------------------
Never mess with someone else's code,unless you know what you're doing
Post by: Mr. Chips on September 20, 2004, 08:10:00 PM
but you put for your favourite Default NPad Deadzone: 12000
you must've meant 1200, because that is a really good setting.
And didn't you mean the higher the value, the more sensitive?
sorry to point this out but it'll save you from annoying noob PMs.
Post by: freakdave on September 20, 2004, 08:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mr. Chips @ Sep 21 2004, 04:06 AM) |
| great release fd!! love goldeneye now but you put for your favourite Default NPad Deadzone: 12000 you must've meant 1200, because that is a really good setting. And didn't you mean the higher the value, the more sensitive? sorry to point this out but it'll save you from annoying noob PMs. |
nope,i meant it exactly that way as i stated in the nfo.
the higher the value,the LESS sensitive (acts like a resistance value)
As for GoldenEye : my favorite values are not perfect (my second (newer) gamepad acts different)
Post by: Mr. Chips on September 20, 2004, 09:03:00 PM
for the record, here is my findings/favorites:
Well-used Controller S:
Default NPad Deadzone=2050
Default XPad Deadzone=0.24
Default XPad Summand=0.25
Will give great precision but sometimes drifting in menu. (GE)
Post by: nagmine on September 20, 2004, 10:37:00 PM
Post by: neverwill on September 20, 2004, 11:15:00 PM
Excelent release by the way. I was suprised how much the flicker filter cleans up the image and sharpens it, all of the games look amazing now.
Controller sensitivity is a godsend, Bond was one of my favorite games when I had my N64. V1.0 had that huge dead zone that was impossible to work around when using the sniper rifle or manually aiming.
Post by: corkinator on September 20, 2004, 11:24:00 PM
Post by: Viewtiful Asher on September 20, 2004, 11:46:00 PM
oh im so happy...cant wait for v2.
Post by: Rodent on September 21, 2004, 03:52:00 AM
will PM you today,
thanks for v2
hope, that your efforts will all be taken into 2.0
rgds
alex
Post by: Cathesdus on September 21, 2004, 05:40:00 AM
Post by: Shordy on September 21, 2004, 07:54:00 AM
Post by: freakdave on September 21, 2004, 08:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (Shordy @ Sep 21 2004, 03:50 PM) |
| how about trying to add virtual memory??? |
from Surreal 1.0 NFO
| QUOTE |
=================== What is Surreal 64? =================== Surreal 64 is a Nintendo 64 emulator for the xbox which combines three Windows based Nintendo 64 emulators that have been ported to the Xbox. These emulators are 1964, Project64 and UltraHLE. By porting three emulators we aim to improve the overall compatibility of the emulator. Features: - Three N64 emulators in one - Greater compatibility/speed and flexibility - Virtual Memory for Roms - Per-Game Settings - Mempack support - Rumblepack support - EEPROM/Sram support - Savestate support - Skinable GUI |
Post by: 0123456 on September 21, 2004, 08:17:00 AM
All I want is the damn VM turned off and the 128 core on so it uses my extra memory and I get no more stuttering.
Come on freakybabes, you know you wanna
Post by: Eventide on September 21, 2004, 07:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Sep 21 2004, 03:59 PM) |
| from Surreal 1.0 NFO |
http://forums.xbox-s...opic=184391&hl=
VM isn't enabled in 1964
I don't really care if its implemented or not, just trying to help clear up the misinformation.
P.S. I love you for adding sensitivity adjustments.
Seriously
Post by: neverwill on September 21, 2004, 07:54:00 PM
Post by: lantus on September 21, 2004, 09:33:00 PM
the facts:
- VMM is enabled in both 1964x and PJ64x
- you cant turn VMM off on a 128 meg xbox simply because you still need it - while much better than 64, with some roms 128 meg is still not enough memory for smooth gameplay. Check out goldeneye/pd for example. The project x RDB file entry for it claims it needs 40 megs *just for the dynarec*.
Post by: dusttones on September 22, 2004, 01:01:00 AM
Post by: 0123456 on September 22, 2004, 04:00:00 AM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Sep 22 2004, 05:29 AM) |
| holy hell, whats with all this false information the facts: - VMM is enabled in both 1964x and PJ64x - you cant turn VMM off on a 128 meg xbox simply because you still need it - while much better than 64, with some roms 128 meg is still not enough memory for smooth gameplay. Check out goldeneye/pd for example. The project x RDB file entry for it claims it needs 40 megs *just for the dynarec*. |
So is the 128 core present but not enabled in 1964?
Was this just an oversight or is there a more sinister reason behind this glaring omission?
Would it be easy (for someone with the right programming knowledge) to enable the 128 supprt?
Post by: hoppityhow on September 22, 2004, 08:01:00 AM
Post by: Rodent on September 22, 2004, 08:00:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Would it be easy (for someone with the right programming knowledge) to enable the 128 supprt? |
You just answered your question by yourself.
Of course it is difficult to add that support,
but if somwone knows how to do it (with the right programming knowledge)
it sure would be easy
Thanks for your efforts, dev's
rgds
alex
Post by: Eunanet69 on September 22, 2004, 11:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Sep 21 2004, 03:59 PM) |
| from Surreal 1.0 NFO |
were can I'am get this emulator?
Post by: Eunanet69 on September 22, 2004, 11:53:00 AM
Post by: Eventide on September 22, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Sep 22 2004, 05:29 AM) |
| holy hell, whats with all this false information the facts: - VMM is enabled in both 1964x and PJ64x - you cant turn VMM off on a 128 meg xbox simply because you still need it - while much better than 64, with some roms 128 meg is still not enough memory for smooth gameplay. Check out goldeneye/pd for example. The project x RDB file entry for it claims it needs 40 megs *just for the dynarec*. |
| QUOTE (Lantus @ May 7 2004, 11:40 PM,http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=184391&hl=) |
| we forgot to enable 128meg caching to 1964 but its present in 1964. we will resolve it in the next build |
Post by: VampX on September 22, 2004, 11:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (Eunanet69 @ Sep 22 2004, 09:49 PM) |
| were can I'am get this emulator? |
by reading the pinned "Beginners Guide To Xbox Emulation" thread.
Post by: Eunanet69 on September 22, 2004, 12:04:00 PM
Post by: Eunanet69 on September 22, 2004, 12:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (VampX @ Sep 22 2004, 07:59 PM) |
| by reading the pinned "Beginners Guide To Xbox Emulation" thread. |
were I'am can download! is right now?
I'am from brasil!
Post by: VampX on September 22, 2004, 12:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (Eunanet69 @ Sep 22 2004, 10:06 PM) |
| were I'am can download! is right now? I'am from brasil! |
How to get emulators for Xbox <-- Link
Post by: Viewtiful Asher on September 22, 2004, 01:05:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| were I'am can download! is right now? I'am from brasil! |
and i thought i didnt know how to speak english.
I´am! I´am! I´am! ...brasil! amigo bello do u mundo xboxeiro!
Post by: VampX on September 22, 2004, 01:16:00 PM
Post by: Viewtiful Asher on September 22, 2004, 01:20:00 PM
Post by: nagmine on September 22, 2004, 01:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (VampX @ Sep 22 2004, 09:12 PM) |
| Classic emulation line from back in the day : "I am brasil, where are roms?" |
yeah that is classic ... i mean if i said "HEY IM AMERICAN I NEED ROMS!" who would come to my rescue
haha
Post by: Viewtiful Asher on September 22, 2004, 01:52:00 PM
Post by: deathx88 on September 22, 2004, 06:38:00 PM
wait a minute they still say that today
| QUOTE |
| i brasil...you roms give brasil...brasil give food you |
thats mean, i know a brasilian, and i give him food or he'll threaten me to send all the spear chuckers from his country over to destroy my house
next battle guns vs. stones
no offense to anyone, i actually do know a brasilian
Post by: Eunanet69 on September 23, 2004, 09:07:00 AM
But I'see that have some gays try play with me end may Brasil!
for this ones I'dont have nothing to say! and thanks for thats whow heep me!
Post by: tous69 on September 23, 2004, 10:02:00 AM
| QUOTE (hoppityhow @ Sep 22 2004, 03:57 PM) |
| theres another thread about this -> how about removing the mempack/rumble pack toggle, or at least having the toggle be a combination of button presses, instead of just the left thumb stick. I don't have a problem with it, since I've been playing video games for years, BUT my gf who I just got addicted to video games, inadvertantly presses the stick in, and that huge black box gets REALLY annoying after a while. |
I have to agree %100 with this. If there were one thing I could have changed (before v2) it would be altering the button for the memcard/rumple switch. EVERYONE I play with hits it all the time playing Mkart.
Post by: chilin_dude on September 23, 2004, 11:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (deathx88 @ Sep 23 2004, 01:34 AM) |
| no offense to anyone, i actually do know a brasilian |
How odd... I thought brazil didn't have their own language and actually spoke Portugese
Post by: VampX on September 23, 2004, 11:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (chilin_dude @ Sep 23 2004, 09:33 PM) |
| How odd... I thought brazil didn't have their own language and actually spoke Portugese |
I thought they spoke Brasillian-Portuguese, its a little different from regular Portuguese from what i've been told.
Post by: total_ass on September 23, 2004, 12:20:00 PM
Anyway back on topic, i haven't tried this yet, i look forward to using it later this evening. Am i correct in thinking that the new options require editing of the cfg files or can they be accessed through the Surreal interface?
Post by: scryed on September 23, 2004, 12:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (total_ass @ Sep 23 2004, 08:16 PM) |
| Anyway back on topic, i haven't tried this yet, i look forward to using it later this evening. Am i correct in thinking that the new options require editing of the cfg files or can they be accessed through the Surreal interface? |
Negative Ghostrider... V2 is now configured through the surreal ini file... Make sure to get V2...
Post by: Iriez on September 23, 2004, 01:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (VampX @ Sep 23 2004, 12:59 PM) |
| I thought they spoke Brasillian-Portuguese, its a little different from regular Portuguese from what i've been told. |
I have a couple brazillian friends. They all speak Portuguese. Asshole's always shout in Portuguese instead of english when we play soccer.
Post by: chilin_dude on September 23, 2004, 01:53:00 PM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Sep 23 2004, 08:33 PM) |
| I have a couple brazillian friends. They all speak Portuguese. Asshole's always shout in Portuguese instead of english when we play soccer. |
Thought as much... I should know... I'm a 1/16th Brazilian
and my Auntie being 100% Brazilian and all
Post by: bdisagree on September 26, 2004, 11:36:00 AM
Post by: freakdave on September 26, 2004, 12:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (bdisagree @ Sep 26 2004, 07:32 PM) |
| This release is whack, I barely can ever get a game running, it's always the black screen of death, reboot, same thing, over and over, and over again. I'm deleting this mother and going back to the last release, which just happens: to work. |
Did you replace your Surreal.ini with the new one ? Might solve your problem...
Do the rest of the users have the same problem ?
Post by: bdisagree on September 26, 2004, 12:42:00 PM
Post by: freakdave on September 26, 2004, 12:46:00 PM
the official 1.0 release or
Geux.net's 5530 release ?
i'm sorry,but i can't replicate your problem...
Post by: yutaro on September 26, 2004, 12:51:00 PM
E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini
Post by: freakdave on September 26, 2004, 01:04:00 PM
and restart Surreal.If this doesn't solve your problem,then i don't know what might cause the crashes...
Post by: bdisagree on September 26, 2004, 09:10:00 PM
Post by: total_ass on September 27, 2004, 04:16:00 AM
i have the flicker filter set to 1 if that helps (btw 1 is on isnt it lol?)
Post by: freakdave on September 27, 2004, 04:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (total_ass @ Sep 27 2004, 12:12 PM) |
| i can't seem to get zelda to play on this, just crashes the xbox on all three emulators. i have the flicker filter set to 1 if that helps (btw 1 is on isnt it lol?) |
1.make sure you have the right rom version (v1.0 US afaik)
2.the flicker filter has nothing to do with the game compatibility/performance
3.the flicker filter takes values from 0 to 5
(0 = off(very sharp).......5(highest flicker filter stage (very blurry)
4.search the forum for the compatibility thread
Post by: total_ass on September 27, 2004, 04:35:00 AM
Post by: yutaro on September 27, 2004, 06:08:00 AM
Or does the same thing happen to all games?
Post by: total_ass on September 27, 2004, 11:11:00 AM
Post by: bdisagree on September 27, 2004, 10:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Sep 27 2004, 12:25 PM) |
| 1.make sure you have the right rom version (v1.0 US afaik) 2.the flicker filter has nothing to do with the game compatibility/performance 3.the flicker filter takes values from 0 to 5 (0 = off(very sharp).......5(highest flicker filter stage (very blurry) 4.search the forum for the compatibility thread |
Is the capabilty thread only for 1.0 US games?
Post by: kyslug on September 27, 2004, 10:07:00 PM
Just wondering if this new modified Surreal has lost anything that the 1.0 possessed? Compatibility, etc? To sum it up, is it without a doubt the best Surreal available for download?
Post by: Spacmec on September 28, 2004, 02:38:00 AM
Post by: freakdave on September 28, 2004, 03:29:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Is the capabilty thread only for 1.0 US games? |
nope,the compatibility thread(maintained by DeathX) is,AFAIK, for all N64 roms (if tested)
| QUOTE |
| Just wondering if this new modified Surreal has lost anything that the 1.0 possessed? Compatibility, etc? To sum it up, is it without a doubt the best Surreal available for download? |
It didn't lose anything at all.Compatibility should still be the same.
The main features of Surreal64 FDB :
- You now have the possibility to change the Flicker Filter (for a sharper/crisper picture) and the Soft Display Filter
- You now have the possibility to change the sensitivity of the thumbsticks
And there are still some things to come
If that isn't an improvement...
Post by: kyslug on September 28, 2004, 04:55:00 AM
Post by: Mipsy on October 04, 2004, 03:48:00 PM
Same thing happens when i try to quit the Surreal64 program. Does anyone have a tip for me?`I would really like to play some of the N64 games.
Thx for any advice
Post by: Prican24 on October 04, 2004, 04:48:00 PM
Post by: freakdave on October 04, 2004, 05:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (Prican24 @ Oct 5 2004, 12:15 AM) |
| hey just wondering if your version of surreal fixed the prob with some acclaim games not working like south park (fps one) or the ecw games? |
nope,it's basically v1.0 with some nice additions.that's all about it...
@Mipsy
make sure you have a correct 007 rom..
Post by: fromunda cheese on October 04, 2004, 08:56:00 PM
Post by: Morien on October 04, 2004, 09:11:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Sensitivity FAQ ------------------------ There are 3 values in 'Surreal.ini' which you can adjust.Surreal's default values are : Default NPad Deadzone=8000 Default XPad Deadzone=0.24 Default XPad Summand=0.5 Default NPad Deadzone: The lower the value of the deadzone,the more sensitive are your thumbsticks. My advise is to start adjusting this value first.For 'fine-tuning' use the XPad Deadzone value. Use 500 if you want a very sensitive thumbstick. My favorite value is : 12000 Default XPad Deadzone: The lower the value of the deadzone,the more sensitive are your thumbsticks. Use it for fine-tuning only. My favorite value is : 0.34 Default XPad Summand: Use this value with care.Try 4.0 and you'll see the difference. My favorite value is : 0.25 If you think you've found a decent value for a certain game,then share it on the X-S Emulation forums please. Misc: Don't try to change the values XOffset,YOffset,XStretch and YStretch,as they won't work in this release. DO NOT DELETE THEM THOUGH ! |
So just load Surreal.ini in Notepad and tweak. There's a recommended value in this thread i think.
If not then might as well save you the trouble:
| CODE |
| Default NPad Deadzone=2050 Default XPad Deadzone=0.24 Default XPad Summand=0.25 |
Post by: Mipsy on October 05, 2004, 04:18:00 AM
Maybe a stupid question, but how do i find the version of a rom?
Mipsy
Post by: freakdave on October 05, 2004, 05:22:00 AM
| QUOTE (Mipsy @ Oct 5 2004, 11:45 AM) |
| freakdave; Maybe a stupid question, but how do i find the version of a rom? Mipsy |
There are rom detection tools throughout the net.Search for Goodrom in google.The rest should be self-explanatory.
Post by: madmab on October 08, 2004, 06:00:00 AM
I have a 5530, even have a modchip in it, but it just hangs at the load screen (from avalaunch).
Thanks in advance.
Post by: YipYip on October 08, 2004, 03:15:00 PM
http://sourceforge.n...701&atid=587619
Does Surreal currently support Evox-style command-line parameters? I only tried using UnleashX (which uses XPort's implementation) to launch the Default.xbe with a ROM specified, but that didn't work. How does Surreal integrate the three emulators? Does it launch the emulator XBE itself with the ROM specified via a command-line parameter?
I guess sometime this weekend I'll try lauching a particular emulator XBE from Evox and UnleashX (with a ROM specified) and see if it works, but ideally I would like to be able to link to the Default.xbe using UnleashX and have it automatically use the preferred emulator for the game and then return to the dashboard when exiting the game.
Post by: radio5 on October 08, 2004, 04:36:00 PM
Post by: mycotopian on October 10, 2004, 11:11:00 AM
I then created a folder called roms under F:\Apps\Emulators\Surreal64.
I placed the rom mariokart64.7z in F:\Apps\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms
Then I renamed the rom path in surreal.ini on F: and E: to point to "F:\Apps\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms"
I then rebooted and launched surreal 64 during launch the screen flickers a bit then goes to the initial surreal 64 screen where there are menu option for settings , credit and quite with awhite mario hand over settings. This is as far as I get because my rom does not show up and I cannot move the hand.
What am I doing wrong???
I extracted the file to "F:\Apps\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms\MarioKart64" It gave me a bunch of .z64 files and I still get nothing
Post by: freakdave on October 14, 2004, 12:57:00 PM
| QUOTE |
About Surreal64 FDB --------------------------------- This is a modified version (FDB = freakdave's birthday release) of Surreal64 v1.0. Changelog ----------------- * Added: You can now change Surreal's Vertex Processing mode * Added: You can now choose between 5 texture filter modes * Added: Some credits * Fixed: Cleaned up some code Misc ------- * Full sourcecode is included Vertex Processing / Texture filter FAQ ------------------------------------------------------------ You now have the possibility to change Surreal's VP mode. Note that UltraHLE has its own graphics renderer and therefore its own entry. Open Surreal.ini and search for these 2 entries: Default UHLE Vertex Processing Mode=1 Default EMU64 Vertex Processing Mode=1 Valid modes are : 0 = Pure Device (don't use this setting unless you know what you're doing.Not recommended) 1 = Software Vertex Processing (this is Surreal's default setting.Recommended) 2 = Hardware Vertex Processing (games may run faster and even better (UltraHLE and Diddy Kong Racing) with this setting,but it may also cause graphical glitches in certain games.Not recommended) 3 = Mixed Vertex Processing (Specifies mixed (both software and hardware) vertex processing.Not recommended) You now also have the possibility to choose between 5 different texture filter modes. Note that UltraHLE has its own graphics renderer and therefore its own entry. Open Surreal.ini and search for these 2 entries: Default UHLE Texturefilter=2 Default EMU64 Texturefilter=2 Valid modes are : 0 = This mode does NOT work as it's only used for Mip Mapping.I've added it only for the sake of completeness. 1 = Point Filtering (Fast but low quality.Use this if you want to play your games with PS1-like graphics) 2 = Linear Filtering (Surreal's default setting) 3 = Anisotropic Filtering (Slower but better quality.My favorite btw )4 = Flatcubic Filtering (Cubic Filter mode.Looks almost like Point Filter mode) 5 = Gaussiancubic Filtering (Cubic Filter mode with a different cubic kernel) Misc: Don't try to change the values XOffset,YOffset,XStretch and YStretch,as they don't work in this release. DO NOT DELETE THEM THOUGH ! |
You can find some screenshots of the new filter modes on my website.
Have fun with this one
Post by: ajohnamous on October 14, 2004, 02:06:00 PM
Post by: MeLv on October 15, 2004, 06:51:00 AM
Post by: stannyboy on October 15, 2004, 12:33:00 PM
Post by: VampX on October 15, 2004, 01:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (stannyboy @ Oct 15 2004, 10:29 PM) |
| yet more reason to think that the code nazis have taken surreal V2 to an ugly grave |
what?
Post by: dmb062082 on October 15, 2004, 01:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (VampX @ Oct 15 2004, 08:56 PM) |
| what? |
he thinks they dont wanna share..... they probably dont. Its ok, surreal is perfect for my needs.
Post by: bareshark on October 15, 2004, 02:39:00 PM
Post by: VampX on October 15, 2004, 03:47:00 PM
| QUOTE (bareshark @ Oct 16 2004, 12:35 AM) |
| Can someone please help me find this new version????? PLEASE? |
Nooooohooooooooohoooooooo we cant!!!! SORRY!!
Post by: Cathesdus on October 15, 2004, 08:36:00 PM
You know what though? I'm fucking sick of this! Why can't we just say "Xbins"? There are tutorials for getting there on this site, in plain view (so in all actuality, bareshark, you shouldn't have typed before you read).
BACK ON TOPIC, HOWEVER
!!!I like what your doing freakdave, keep up the good work
.
Post by: VampX on October 15, 2004, 09:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (Cathesdus @ Oct 16 2004, 06:32 AM) |
| The usual places... You know what though? I'm fucking sick of this! Why can't we just say "Xbins"? There are tutorials for getting there on this site, in plain view (so in all actuality, bareshark, you shouldn't have typed before you read). BACK ON TOPIC, HOWEVER !!!I like what your doing freakdave, keep up the good work . |
What? i always say #Xbins instead of " the usual places"
never had any problem with it so far.. which would have been odd since there's a tutorial on how2xbins on the main xboxscene site.
back on topic
yo freakdave! love your surreal enhancements!
now quickly off to bed...
Post by: alexh on October 16, 2004, 05:38:00 AM
Does Surreal64 FDB re-visit any of these features? Seems like a logical progression based on what has been done already.
Post by: freakdave on October 16, 2004, 08:55:00 AM
Post by: cocacolaman on October 16, 2004, 09:28:00 AM
Post by: Charlemagne on October 16, 2004, 09:29:00 AM
I've been playing with the settings in the ini, but nothing seems to be changing in 007.
i even have it set to 24000, .54, and .45
and the settings still feel like they're at the default one.
i've deleted both ini's from my TDATA folder, and it's still not working.
am i not doing something right?
Post by: freakdave on October 16, 2004, 11:40:00 AM
try the gueux.net 5530 version.I also have a XBOX v1 and it works for me...
@Charlemagne
try these values :
2050
0.24
0.25
more info here :
http://freakdave.xbo...om/surreal.html
Post by: cocacolaman on October 16, 2004, 12:51:00 PM
I tried the one from gueux and same results. I also tired differnt HD , one that has all of the other emus on it like psx, gba, etc....
I put it in game or apps folder on hd, put all roms in rom folder and don't do anything to the ini and it won't launch. here's the list of whats in folders:
Media
NFO
Roms (i put my roms here in zip formt, tried unzip them didn't matter program won't load)
Surreal64 fdb v3 src
1964 ini
1964 xbe
default xbe
pj64 xbe
project64x,rdb
rice51.0
ruce52.0
surreal ini
ultra ini
ultra xbe
is anything missing if i put surreal in a game diretory with roms in same directory do i need to edit ini or do anything???? surreal shows up in directory but the app won't launch the loading game screen just hangs????? i think it's the xbe the default is 628kb ......any ideas of what's going wrong???
Post by: freakdave on October 16, 2004, 01:36:00 PM
what bios are you using ?
and what dashboard are you using ?
Have you tried to patch the *.xbe ?
Maybe other users had the same problem some time ago.
Have you done a search yet ?
p.s. you don't need the v3 src folder....
Post by: bedow666 on October 16, 2004, 07:06:00 PM
Post by: k6irk on October 16, 2004, 10:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Oct 16 2004, 09:32 PM) |
| hmm,very strange.. what bios are you using ? and what dashboard are you using ? Have you tried to patch the *.xbe ? Maybe other users had the same problem some time ago. Have you done a search yet ? p.s. you don't need the v3 src folder.... |
I just DLed version 3, I did have version 1 working on my system.
I left everything in the same directory structure as in the Archive and removed version 1 from the system.
I also made sure that the ini file reflected the proper directory stucture:
[Settings]
Rom Path=F:\Emulators\Surreal64 FDB v3\Roms\
Media Path=F:\Emulators\Surreal64 FDB v3\
I am running the Avalaunch Dashboard
The bios is the Xenium Ice
And I have not even attempted to patch the xbe.
All I get is launching and nothing else comes up.
Anything else I can try to get this to work?
Thanks,
Rob
Post by: hartjo1 on October 16, 2004, 11:56:00 PM
Post by: chilin_dude on October 17, 2004, 04:01:00 AM
2. when you load it up join a EFNET server
3. type /j #xbins at the bottom of the screen.
4. Download surreal
Post by: cocacolaman on October 17, 2004, 04:51:00 PM
i'm running evox dashboard from july this year
and excuter bios also fromjuly this year
the program just won't launch i have no clue why
tried patching xbe and did nothing
any more help much appreciated
Post by: Charlemagne on October 17, 2004, 08:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Oct 16 2004, 02:43 PM) |
| @Charlemagne try these values : 2050 0.24 0.25 |
Thanks dave.
Those values definitely made a difference. One thing I noticed though is that the crosshair (I'm playing Goldeneye btw) tends to "stick" to one side of the screen if I look all the way over. (By that I mean even when I let go of the thumbstick and it centers itself, the crosshair on the screen stays on the side and makes me look around in circles). Is this a problem with my setup or anything. It does it for both my original MS controller (the old big one) and my Eclipse controller.
Post by: bareshark on October 18, 2004, 07:33:00 PM
Post by: AbRASiON on October 18, 2004, 11:55:00 PM
Post by: Mr. Chips on October 20, 2004, 09:27:00 PM
And the stick adjusting, it's great too!
Now these new rendering options are awesome! I especially like the Anisotropic filtering. I don't think it even slows down the game at all!
But I noticed the changes more on UHLE than Emu64 (I guess that means 1964+PJ64?).
and here are my settings:
| CODE |
Default UHLE Vertex Processing Mode=1 Default UHLE Texturefilter=3 Default EMU64 Vertex Processing Mode=1 Default EMU64 Texturefilter=3 |
One question: Which filter, in your opinion, looks the most like the original N64 ?
thx
Post by: Dolfhin on October 21, 2004, 07:17:00 AM
| QUOTE (AbRASiON @ Oct 19 2004, 07:51 AM) |
| Is there any way to fix the graphical glitches on Mario Golf? it's a wicked game and my g/f loves it but I'd like to fix them up just to make it that bit better. |
No
Anyway i just want to say thanks freakdave, I have found my Nintendo 64 again and played some mario kart on it and I have to say that it's a pain in the Ass to play mario kart the Nintendo 64 way! It's really hard to see things like that red thing (player seeking shell???) on a real N64 but it looks so clear, so great on Surreal 64 FDB! It's like the difference between playing a game withouth glases and with!
Not to forgot the crystal clear 5.1 sound that the Xbox brings!
I hope you keep on developing (maybe merge this with the surreal 2.0 sources?)
Post by: Cathesdus on October 21, 2004, 10:01:00 AM
!
Post by: Mr. Chips on October 21, 2004, 11:34:00 AM
| QUOTE |
Not to forgot the crystal clear 5.1 sound that the Xbox brings! |
it is still possible to hook a N64 up the same way for audio. Although you are getting 5.1 sound, it is not TRUE 5.1 channels. It is mererly 2 channel stereo, which is projected to Front-left, Rear-left (LEFT channel), Front-Right, Rear Right (RIGHT channel) and if you are getting any bass from the subwoofer it is probably a combination of the two's low frequency output, being seperated inside of the amplifier.
Not that stereo sound is such a bad thing (it may sound great even!) but you can only work with what you have, and the nintendo 64 that is being emulated only had left and right channels...like the old saying, Garbage In, Garbage Out.
to reiterate my last question for FD
:Which filter, in your opinion, looks the most like the original N64 ?
and...
How did you take screenshots?
ps. omg did it really look this shitty before?!
original:
sureal:
Post by: freakdave on October 21, 2004, 11:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (Mr. Chips @ Oct 21 2004, 07:37 PM) |
| to reiterate my last question for FD : Which filter, in your opinion, looks the most like the original N64 ? and... How did you take screenshots? |
1st question:
Flicker Filter 5
SoftDisplayFilter on
Linear filtering (default)
And spectacles with thick (bullet-proof) glasses.You can't get it blurrier i think
The screenies were taken with the XDK,but it should also be possible to take them with XBOX image grabber.
And yes,you were right,EMU64 = PJ64 and 1964
Post by: Pistol on October 22, 2004, 06:40:00 AM
Anything that makes Goldeneye playable on the Xbox is officially A Good Thing. Top work.
Post by: Mr. Chips on October 22, 2004, 10:46:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Never mind looking like the original, which settings look the best? |
IMO:
| CODE |
FlickerFilter=1 SoftDisplay=0 Default UHLE Vertex Processing Mode=1 Default UHLE Texturefilter=3 Default EMU64 Vertex Processing Mode=1 Default EMU64 Texturefilter=3 |
This way looks like a shiny new coin!
Post by: k6irk on October 22, 2004, 07:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (k6irk @ Oct 17 2004, 06:20 AM) |
| I just DLed version 3, I did have version 1 working on my system. I left everything in the same directory structure as in the Archive and removed version 1 from the system. I also made sure that the ini file reflected the proper directory stucture: [Settings] Rom Path=F:\Emulators\Surreal64 FDB v3\Roms\ Media Path=F:\Emulators\Surreal64 FDB v3\ I am running the Avalaunch Dashboard The bios is the Xenium Ice And I have not even attempted to patch the xbe. All I get is launching and nothing else comes up. Anything else I can try to get this to work? Thanks, Rob |
Anyone have a suggestion why mine will not load.
I placed all the info requested in my original message, but I am still stumpted.
Any help on this will be great.
Thanks,
Rob
Post by: Morien on October 23, 2004, 03:54:00 AM
Then delete the save in the MS dash.
Just FYI,
in most (if not all) emulators D:\ represents the directory that the emulator's xbe is in (eg. E:\Surreal\default.xbe to the emulator is D:\default.xbe). A:\ is usually then the DVD-Rom. Many emulators also don't like it when the rom path is changed from D:\
Post by: Imacomposer on November 01, 2004, 02:18:00 AM
thanks for your help!
Post by: emo1008 on November 01, 2004, 03:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Sep 28 2004, 11:32 AM) |
| nope,the compatibility thread(maintained by DeathX) is,AFAIK, for all N64 roms (if tested) It didn't lose anything at all.Compatibility should still be the same. The main features of Surreal64 FDB : - You now have the possibility to change the Flicker Filter (for a sharper/crisper picture) and the Soft Display Filter - You now have the possibility to change the sensitivity of the thumbsticks And there are still some things to come If that isn't an improvement... |
leute ich kannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn eure sprache nicht -- aber ist nicht schlimm oder?
egal jedenfalls lade ich mir das jetzt runter.
Post by: freakdave on November 01, 2004, 12:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Sep 19 2004, 04:58 AM) |
| The CVS has not been stabalized in quite sometime. It has not been updated either. Anything compiled from the CVS (if you even figure out how to fix the errors that currently prevent you from compiling) is pointless, as it is inferior to 1.0 in regards to stability. |
Just for your interest:
I've managed to fix the errors which prevented you from compiling the current CVS.Well,unfortunately this build doesn't work at all (didn't expect anything else anyway).Loading roms with the default setting (Rice's 5.60) results in a black screen of death(no activity whatsoever).Any other setting(older plugins) kicks you back into the dashboard.Seems like that's the end of the matter...
Post by: bob451052 on November 01, 2004, 09:31:00 PM
Post by: crazyfingers on November 12, 2004, 02:39:00 AM
| QUOTE (Morien @ Oct 23 2004, 11:50 AM) |
| Try just having D:\media and D:\roms Then delete the save in the MS dash. |
so... does this mean that I must burn a compilation of compatable 64 ROMS on a DVD (my damn philps dont read CDR's), along with the Sureal application (suggested), so that the program will correctly 'see' the ROMS, and thus make Sureal playable.. because, as you can aquire by this post, it does not recognize any ROMs via my HD.
Although, Project 64 seems to work pretty good running on its own by playing these very same exact ROMs placed on the HD.
so...
Before I collect all of these ROM's and burn a comp on DVD, are you sure this is the only solution to get this emulator working on my box?
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v1.2
Xenium Ice 2.0.1
7,200 WD 30g unlocked
IND-BIOS - XBMC - thcLite
X2983 - Avalaunch - Evox - UnleashX
Post by: ncasebee on November 12, 2004, 11:53:00 AM
I would help, but I'm still trying to learn C++ and SDL.
Post by: DragonKore on November 12, 2004, 11:50:00 PM
Post by: southbark on November 13, 2004, 12:44:00 AM
Post by: Grindie on February 01, 2005, 06:55:00 AM
I wonder if that Freaky Dave guy is even still working on Surreal 64 FDB, but what the hell...
I've messed around with the surreal.ini file to try n' get Goldeneye playable with the XBox's hyper-sensitive sticks but I can't. From what I've gathered, the options in the .ini file don't actually affect analogue sensitivity.
Altering the 'Npad Deadzone' value just seems to affect how far you have to push the sticks to get a response. I have the other two values at '0.0' but the sticks are still way too sensitive.
I was just wondering if there was a way to fix it so that I could alter the speed at which the sticks moved... if you get what I mean. Like in most XBox first person shooters, lowering the sensitivity on the sticks to the lowest point makes moving the player in-game very slow, which makes trying to aim much easier.
Is there any chance of this type of option be integrated into Surreal 64 FDB in future?
Post by: freakdave on February 24, 2005, 05:44:00 PM
Surreal64 FDB v4
CODE
Changelog
-----------------
* Added: Implemented GogoAckman's Video Menu and renamed to Settings Menu
* Added: Option to change the analogue stick sensitivity via the Settings Menu
* Fixed: Removed custom settings from Surreal.ini as they're now stored in fdb.ini
* Fixed: Some bugs in GogoAckman's Video Menu code which forced you to restart Surreal if you changed texture filter modes for PJ64 and 1964
* Fixed: Lockup if there was no fdb.ini (former Surreal-xxx.ini) in the directory
* Fixed: Removed Vertex mode option from the Video Menu
* Fixed: Some typos in the Video Menu
* Fixed: Minor code cleanups
Misc
-------
* Full sourcecode is included
FAQ (updated)
------------------------------------------------------------
Q: How do i change Surreal's Vertex Processing Mode?
A: Open fdb.ini and search for VertexMode:
Valid modes are :
0 = Pure Device (don't use this setting unless you know what you're doing. Not recommended)
1 = Software Vertex Processing (this is Surreal's default setting.Recommended)
2 = Hardware Vertex Processing (games may run faster and even better with this setting, but it may also cause graphical glitches in certain games. Not recommended)
3 = Mixed Vertex Processing (specifies mixed (both software and hardware) vertex processing. Not recommended)
Q: How do i change the Texture Filter for PJ64/1964/UltraXLE
A: Start a game and push the right thumbstick.
Go into Settings Menu, highlight Texture Filter and press (A)
Valid modes are :
1 = Point Filtering (Fast but low quality. Looks like on a Nintendo DS or PS1)
2 = Linear Filtering (Surreal's default setting)
3 = Anisotropic Filtering (Slower but better quality.My favorite btw;))
4 = Quincunx Filtering (Cubic Filter mode.Looks similar to Point Filter mode)
5 = Gaussian-Cubic Filtering (Cubic Filter mode with a different cubic kernel)
Q: How do i change the Sensitivity for the Analogue sticks ?
A: Start a game and push the right thumbstick.
Go into Settings Menu, highlight Sensitivity in % and press (A)
0% = Surreal64's default value (8000)
100% = Maximum sensitivity
A value of 60% worked fine for me in most cases.
You can also change these settings in fdb.ini
If you have any problems with this build, feel free to post them here...
Post by: incognegro on February 24, 2005, 07:52:00 PM
are my eyes decieving me!? is surreal fdb v4 out already!? maybe its just a typo 
Post by: Thraxen on February 24, 2005, 08:07:00 PM
Post by: Sirmatto on February 24, 2005, 10:34:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on February 24, 2005, 10:54:00 PM
QUOTE(Sirmatto @ Feb 24 2005, 10:33 PM)
Errrrrmmm...shouldn't this be Freakdaves Unbirthday version? But either way, I'll pour a 40 for you with this one
Yea, he apparently has quite a long birthday ; ) I would have alot of presents if my birthday was that long.
Post by: caviar on February 25, 2005, 04:53:00 AM
Dear Freakdave.
First off all, thank for this new release.
I try to compile it but I get errors because followings files are missings into the PJ64 Project :
->Xaudio.lib
->Xinput.lib
->XRsphle.lib
Do you know why there are not included into the package ?
Regards
Caviar
Post by: freakdave on February 25, 2005, 04:59:00 AM
QUOTE(caviar @ Feb 25 2005, 11:52 AM)
I try to compile it but I get errors because followings files are missings into the PJ64 Project :
->Xaudio.lib
->Xinput.lib
->XRsphle.lib
->Xaudio.lib
->Xinput.lib
->XRsphle.lib
Compile as RELEASE, this should fix the errors...
Post by: Beelzebud on February 25, 2005, 10:55:00 AM
I was playing around with the various filters last night, and really like those too.
The games I liked for N64 are already playable in the emulator, so to me, this is just great to finally have these options.
Thanks Dave. Your time, and work, is appreciated.
Post by: incognegro on February 25, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
. Thanx for this wonderful release, i havent tried it yet but im just curious, i got the binary and i noticed there is no fdb.ini in it. Would this cause a problem? I mean its got the surreal.ini in it already but i read in the nfo and saw something about fdb.ini but i dont see it.
Post by: junkmonk on February 25, 2005, 02:48:00 PM
Post by: freakdave on February 25, 2005, 04:46:00 PM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Feb 25 2005, 08:52 PM)
I guess it wasn't a typo at all . Thanx for this wonderful release, i havent tried it yet but im just curious, i got the binary and i noticed there is no fdb.ini in it. Would this cause a problem? I mean its got the surreal.ini in it already but i read in the nfo and saw something about fdb.ini but i dont see it.
. Thanx for this wonderful release, i havent tried it yet but im just curious, i got the binary and i noticed there is no fdb.ini in it. Would this cause a problem? I mean its got the surreal.ini in it already but i read in the nfo and saw something about fdb.ini but i dont see it.If you start Surreal it will automatically generate fdb.ini
Post by: Sirmatto on February 25, 2005, 06:34:00 PM
Post by: tom_g05 on February 25, 2005, 06:52:00 PM
Post by: mr_chips on February 26, 2005, 12:09:00 AM
QUOTE(tom_g05 @ Feb 25 2005, 04:51 PM)
Anyone know what a good analogue sensitivity is??
is it really such a pain to try for yourself? It's designed for individual preference.
Post by: Mr.INSANE on February 26, 2005, 12:51:00 AM
Post by: freakdave on February 26, 2005, 05:26:00 AM
QUOTE
not to much to ask i like it but i cant seem to chnage the video mode now {i doint mean the texture filter} from the menu its not even there
I suppose you mean the vertex mode option. You can change that in fdb.ini.
QUOTE
I just want to say thanks to Dave for his efforts. These are the in-game options I've been wanting since Surreal came out. Just having the controller sensitivity settings in the menu is great.
I was playing around with the various filters last night, and really like those too.
The games I liked for N64 are already playable in the emulator, so to me, this is just great to finally have these options.
Thanks Dave. Your time, and work, is appreciated.
I was playing around with the various filters last night, and really like those too.
The games I liked for N64 are already playable in the emulator, so to me, this is just great to finally have these options.
Thanks Dave. Your time, and work, is appreciated.
You feedback is appreciated, too..
QUOTE
So I read your website the other day, and if my seven years of German serve me right, this is your last release because a retard from Team Aftershock was spewing garbage on IRC or is it just because you've done what you wanted and are leaving the reigns of Surreal for the next sucke...programmer
it's for both reasons. Yes, this is the last FDB release, however you'll see more of my updates in a next release of Surreal-xxx, this is all i can say about it at this time.
Post by: Sirmatto on February 26, 2005, 01:05:00 PM
QUOTE(freakdave @ Feb 26 2005, 03:25 AM)
I suppose you mean the vertex mode option. You can change that in fdb.ini.
You feedback is appreciated, too..
it's for both reasons. Yes, this is the last FDB release, however you'll see more of my updates in a next release of Surreal-xxx, this is all i can say about it at this time.
You feedback is appreciated, too..
it's for both reasons. Yes, this is the last FDB release, however you'll see more of my updates in a next release of Surreal-xxx, this is all i can say about it at this time.
Well no matter what you decide to do, your work has been much appreciated. My hat goes off and I raise my glass to you
Post by: mr_chips on February 26, 2005, 01:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Sirmatto @ Feb 26 2005, 11:04 AM)
Well no matter what you decide to do, your work has been much appreciated. My hat goes off and I raise my glass to you
you shouldn't drink this early in the morning
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