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Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: big_xbox_n00bie on July 29, 2004, 06:43:00 AM
Which is better for neogeo roms?

I just want to put the roms into a folder do the usual iso stuff burn and play
which is better??


Also when fba is distributed is it normally binary form or the source code form????

Thanks
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: drgreenchicken on July 29, 2004, 07:05:00 AM
FBA-XXX is the better of the two for running neogeo roms.
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: VampX on July 29, 2004, 07:37:00 AM
QUOTE (big_xbox_n00bie @ Jul 29 2004, 04:46 PM)
Also when fba is distributed is it normally binary form or the source code form????

Thanks

I dont understand the question, you can download both Binary and sourcecode.
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: pelago on July 29, 2004, 09:50:00 AM
Unless you are a programmer only the binary form is any use to you.
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: devlkore on July 29, 2004, 12:10:00 PM
QUOTE (akumax @ Jul 29 2004, 06:42 PM)
I'd use KawaX for Neo Geo games before I'd use FBA-XXX or MameOx

Why?




Seriously, why? wink.gif
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: angrypants on July 29, 2004, 01:32:00 PM
I prefer the way kawax is set up over fbaxx. I don't know if I have an older version of the emulator or what but I just like it a lot better then fba. Either way both are better for neo-geo than even the new mameox even though it does a decent job of running neo-geo now.
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: VeggetoX on July 29, 2004, 01:41:00 PM
Yeah I feel the same way about Kawa-X I just like it better then Fba-x. One of the reasons for this Is the version of FBA-x i had always started the roms in console mode as oppose to arcade, and I would rather play the games in arcade mode then console. Also i thought switching fba to console mode was more of a pain then it was to switch between the two in kawax. That and it just in my opinion plays the games better then FBA-x plus it's not like your missing out on any games by using kawa-x instead of Fba-x. wink.gif
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: SNICK! on July 30, 2004, 05:09:00 AM
QUOTE
Yeah I feel the same way about Kawa-X I just like it better then Fba-x. One of the reasons for this Is the version of FBA-x i had always started the roms in console mode as oppose to arcade, and I would rather play the games in arcade mode then console. Also i thought switching fba to console mode was more of a pain then it was to switch between the two in kawax. That and it just in my opinion plays the games better then FBA-x plus it's not like your missing out on any games by using kawa-x instead of Fba-x.

uh yeah you do actually

FBA-XXX can play the newer games such as metal slug 4 +5 and the new kof's

where as Kawa-X (the official version not hexed ones) cannot (authors show of respect, which you cannot say is bad)
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: Thraxen on July 30, 2004, 09:33:00 AM
Haha... I knew there were others like me that prefer KawaX.  It simply runs the games better than FBAXXX.  Again, I challenge anyone to play the Metal Slug games on FBAX and then KawaX.  You will notice more slowdown on FBAXXX than KawaX.  Now maybe using the overclock features of FBAXXX can fix that, but the fact that you would have to do that indicates that KawaX is better at running the games,
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: devlkore on July 30, 2004, 09:37:00 AM
QUOTE (Thraxen @ Jul 30 2004, 04:36 PM)
You will notice more slowdown on FBAXXX than KawaX.  Now maybe using the overclock features of FBAXXX can fix that, but the fact that you would have to do that indicates that KawaX is better at running the games,

...or maybe it just indicates that FBAxxx is better because it has more options.

I don't notice any slowdown in either emulator, but with the overclock features, why would you use KawaX over FBAxxx, there aren't ANY features that KawaX has that FBAxxx doesn't.

I'm not trying to force anyone to use FBAxxx, but I don't understand why someone would rather use an emulator with less features and support for less games.
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: VampX on July 30, 2004, 09:59:00 AM
okay lets take a look at this objectivly.

Metal Slug 2 (arcade) lots of slowdown!!

Metal Slug 2 (kawax) if its a correct emulation of NeoGeo = lots of slowdown!!

Metal Slug 2 (fba-xxx) if its a correct emulation of NeoGeo = lots of slowdown!! (no slowdown with overclocking)


Apparantlty not everybody is aware of the fact that Metal Slug 2 suffered
from huge amounts of slowdown on the real Neo hardware.

Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: Thraxen on July 30, 2004, 10:53:00 AM
Hmmm...  I have both on my XBox and FBAXXX seems to have a lower frame rate than KawaX on some games.  Or maybe it's all in my head  blink.gif

Anyway, on the new version of FBAXXX it has that second "MAME Dump" xbe.  So if you use that one then both MAMEoX and FBAXXX should be able to use the same ROMS, correct?
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: tekn0 on August 22, 2004, 04:46:00 PM
is it just me or does any one else get "audio drop outs" with fba-xxx i got it over clocked to 190% seems to work better then 200% for me but i have tried both , but fba-xxx just seems to have pauses in sound all the time like when ever anything "big" is about to happen and kawa never did this , is there any way to overclock to say 250% vi ini? i have tried but still had no luck ,also im using mame roms vi the mame compatable xbe just for neo-geo and no cps.
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: kimota2004 on August 22, 2004, 05:31:00 PM
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Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: Prican24 on August 22, 2004, 11:18:00 PM
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as for the topic sake, mame ox has its limits if you don't have the extra memory and its known to use more resources then other emus so i can't recomend it for neogeo unless its a simple game like ghostlop or the puzzle bobble games
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: Iriez on August 23, 2004, 12:16:00 AM
Well i prefer kawax over fbaxxx. One of the reasons is simplicity. Its the same reason people use evox over mediaXmenu.

That, or because i have a private build thats way better ; p

*Masturbates ego*

But to be realistic, when it comes to features its obviously fbaxxx hands down.
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: devlkore on August 23, 2004, 12:26:00 AM
QUOTE (Iriez @ Aug 23 2004, 07:19 AM)
Well i prefer kawax over fbaxxx. One of the reasons is simplicity. Its the same reason people use evox over mediaXmenu.

That, or because i have a private build thats way better ; p

Is that true, or are you just trying to make us jealous?

I'm not trying to get you to "leak" it, but what cool extra STufF do you have that mortal Kawa-X fans do not?

LA!

I'm happy with FBAx(xx), like you said, hands down it just has more options, and options are good, also, pressing the right thumbstick left only pauses the emulation in FBAxxx, unlike Kawa-X where it messes up your Aliens Vs Predator game that you've been playing for what feels like 6 hours.
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: catoblepa on August 27, 2004, 03:51:00 AM
Well, talkin' about FBAXXX...

I'm I the only one who noticed serious "glitches" in scrolling?
I heard someone talkin' about "screen tearing", this happens
in FBA a lot.

Still, I can't use Kawa-X beacuse of the graphic filters...
no hardware filtering, everything is blurry as hell.

Problems like these two make NeoGeo emulation on Xbox far
from perfect, and it's a shame, 'cause the emus are great!
I wonder when we'll see true RGB output and perfect, fluid
scrolling: everything else (like new roms support) is
insignificant. I know it's not a simple task, but it's also the
most important IMHO.
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: -x- on August 27, 2004, 04:31:00 AM
QUOTE (catoblepa @ Aug 27 2004, 11:54 AM)
Problems like these two make NeoGeo emulation on Xbox far
from perfect, and it's a shame, 'cause the emus are great!
I wonder when we'll see true RGB output and perfect, fluid
scrolling: everything else (like new roms support) is
insignificant. I know it's not a simple task, but it's also the
most important IMHO.

720p owns RGB.
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: -x- on August 27, 2004, 04:31:00 AM

I get no screen tearing when I play it must be a pal thing or somthing.
Title: Mame0x Vs Fba
Post by: catoblepa on August 27, 2004, 04:37:00 AM
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