Post by: Iriez on January 07, 2004, 06:15:00 AM
Firstly, are you having problems loading the emulator? Does it freeze on loading/black screen? Check these things..
Are you running a 4977 bios? (One thats been patched for lba48) Or 4978? Both are known to cause issues -
Reflash with a evox bios, or 4976.06 or 4979.06/67 +
Do you have all the correct files and folders on your xbox? (most specifically the media directory, default.xbe and surreal.ini)
Are you using a old modchip such as xecuter 1, or enigmah/xtender? - Try patching first (all your xbe files)with dexbe to retail, and if that doesnt work your going to need to use Phoenix Bios Loader (PBL) to boot another bios into memory before launching. This will not go into support for using PBL. Please use at your own descretion.
People who cannot get it to load by patching with dexbe should also try xbe patcher
Are you having a problem with your Roms not showing up?
First and formost, have you edited the Surreal.ini *before* you run it to point to your roms?
You need to change it to be Rom Path=F:\Path\to\your\roms . If you are putting the roms in the 'roms' folder inside your surreal64 install dir, then make the Rom Path=D:\Roms
If you have already ran Surreal64, then your ini was saved to the TDATA folder, and you have to edit it there.
/E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini <-- That is the path to it. Simply edit that file right there to reflect the directory of your roms, and then launch the emu and hit the 'refresh' button in the lower right hand corner.
Are you trying to run Roms off the dvd and cannot get it to work?
First, you must create a xiso of your roms. Create a New folder...name it whatever you please. Go into it, and make a directory called "Roms". Put all of your N64 Roms in there. Use Simple Xiso and select that 'new directory' that you created for creating a xiso. The point is to create a xiso with a roms folder on there, and NOT your roms on the root directory of the disk. If you put them directly on the disk it will not work. Create the xiso, and burn using record now max or nero or whatever your favorite burning software is. Make sure you are using media your xbox can read, i.e. if you have a samsung you can use cd-r, if not you can only use cd-rw/dvd-r/dvd+r. If you have not launched surreal64 on your xbox, then you can edit your ini right there to say A\:Roms or if you have already launched it you must edit /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini to reflect A:\Roms . Relaunch Surreal64 with your disk in the tray and hit the refresh button.
Are certian Roms not showing up?
Check your roms!
GOODN64
Download Goodn64, bin.zip, and good windows. Extract them all to a directory of your choice. In goodwindows select 'Good tool' as your mode, and then select Nintendo 64 as your system. The rom directory is in the lower left corner, simply choose the directory of your roms, then hit the big button on the lower right (Should say Goodn64.exe rename). It will put all of your roms renamed properly in a N64Ren folder, and any bad/unknown in another.
If a specific rom is not showing up, and you have renamed it, check and make sure the surreal.ini has a entry for it. Example...
You have Banjo-Kazooie (E) [!].zip and for some reason its not showing up. Open surreal.ini with a text editor (most of you will use notepad, but use ultraedit if you have it).
Do a search for Banjo until you find the entry for that rom. In this case..it would be
[733FCCB1-444892F9-C:50]
Game Name=Banjo-Kazooie
Alternate Title=Banjo-Kazooie (E) [!]
Comments=Playable
Preferred Emulator=0
If your rom has been renamed by goodn64, and does not show up, you should not be able to find it in the surreal.ini. This is merely a confirmation of what exactly is happening. If this is the case, obtain the correct version of the rom. All (U) and (E) [!] roms are supported (to show on the romlist). Also, if your zip file is compressed a certian way (dont ask me which way) surreal may not be able to extract the rom from the zip to verify the crc. If this is not the case, and your rom IS renamed, AND you have found the entry for it in the ini (and you are sure it is the correct rom), you've tried unzipping, and it is still not showing up, then i have no clue = ) I would advise you contain another version supported by the surreal.ini
If you have a rom that you have verified to be a good dump, and transfered it to your xbox, and refreshed your romlist, and it is *still* not showing up, then unzip the rom and transfer it, instead of the zip archive. The reason this might happen is because its using a non standard compression, and surreal 64 wouldnt be able to unzip it to see which rom it is.
Also, in regards to romplaying/stability/capability i have noticed that evox takes more memory somehow if launched from it (the dashboard, not the bios). I would imagine the reason is because evox patches the kernel, and also uses debug TSR tools. Try to not launch surreal64 from evox to minimalize any problems.
---ROM CONFIGURATION SECTION---
Most of the games should run fine with the default settings.
For audio you only have two choices, Azimer, which is the audio source from apollo used with jttl's SDL sound output, or PJ RSP, which is the basic audio plugin with LLE.
If a game is not playing (as in loads and freezes, or runs slow) you may be able to tweak the preformance by adjusting the memory settings.
The best way to go about this is to load the game, and turn on the debug display by right clicking on the analog stick and selecting it.
This will display how much memory is free. Start playing your game and keep in mind how much is free.
A example would be...super smash brothers. Ingame while your playing you have say.. 7.5MB free on average.
Quit the game and go back to the romlist and go into the settings.
The default setting should be 4MB video.
For 1964 dyna should be 8mb, and paging 4mb.
For PJ64 dyna should be 16mb, and paging 4mb
Now you will want to adjust your settings dependant upon which emulator you used.
Keep in mind that in order for the menu ingame to display correctly, you need atleast 4mb free. With 7.5 mb free on our example, that would give you 3.5 mb to play with, if you want the menu to show. If you dont give a damn about the menu, then i would suggest only going as low as 2mb free, which would give you 5.5Mb to play with.
The most noticable impact you will see is by increasing the dyna. Only in very few games (like super smash brothers and banjo tooie that comes to mind) need alot of video memory for textures. You'll notice some backgrounds missing in SSB if your video setting is too low.
So, by default, say in 1964 you have 8mb dyna. You have anywhere from 3.5-5.5 MB to play with. My suggestion would be to trial and error and see what does best for you. Try increasing the dyna by 4mb first, and see if that improves your preformance. If that doesnt work, increase it by 2, and increase the paging by 2. If that doesnt improve, drop the paging to 2mb and increase the dyna by 6mb.
Some games, like perfect dark, simply need more memory than a 64mb xbox can provide with the current core. It needs about 16mb dyna and 16mb paging in order to run smooth.
In some cases you can drop the paging to 1mb without a noticable difference. This may increase stuttering, or draw the FPS to nothing when trying to load a level/scene/texture that requires large memory.
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Are you getting a BLACK SCREEN after loading a rom? Make 100% sure you are using Surreal v1.0 and NOT the gueux.net version. That version is for softmod exploits on newer xbox kernels.
Yes, .ZIP files are supported, aswell as all the known extentions for n64 rom's such as .usa and .v64
A specific rom not showing up on the list?
Please keep in mind this is not a bug or compatibility list. This is merely a help thread getting surreal *Started*. Please post to the appropriate thread if you wish to submit a bug within the emulator.
I will update this post with helpful information as i recieve it.
Post by: Iriez on January 07, 2004, 09:44:00 AM
This thread is not about compatibility issues or bugs. This is a thread about getting surreal64 to launch.
Do not post bugs about games not working.
Post by: Shordy on January 07, 2004, 10:43:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 07, 2004, 10:45:00 AM
This post has been edited by Iriez: Jan 7 2004, 06:51 PM
Post by: gafasiynot on January 07, 2004, 10:52:00 AM
so if i have a folder called "roms" on my E: i would just set the rom path to E:roms? and would i change the media path to "/E:/Emus/Surreal64/Media/" where i uploaded the program?
Post by: Iriez on January 07, 2004, 10:53:00 AM
Media Path=D:\Media
You dont need to change the media path.
Post by: gafasiynot on January 07, 2004, 10:59:00 AM
thank you very much Iriez, i finally got it to work after hours of wasting time. thanks for the help!
Post by: soundforce on January 07, 2004, 11:05:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 07, 2004, 12:42:00 PM
Post by: VeggetoX on January 07, 2004, 01:57:00 PM
Post by: ninja friend on January 07, 2004, 06:23:00 PM
Which memory type (if any) relates most to the speed at which a game is running. When I run Mario Kart 64, for instance, it's almost perfect. No noticeable texture problems, no sound issues, normal framerate... but it's simply not as fast as it should be. Not quite. A second (as displayed on my lap time) is longer than a second- if that makes sense. Framerate is fine, it's just the speed that's screwy. Is there a setting that relates to that?
Post by: Joshua Wood on January 07, 2004, 07:23:00 PM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...T&f=17&t=151724
might help answer a few questions you have.
Iriez, I've verified my super mario 64 using goodrom, and it appears in the surreal.ini, but still doesn't show...I might see about finding a different dump, but it should show right?
Does the .zip and the rom filename need to be something specific? I've tried renaming them to the goodrom name, no luck still, after rom refresh. My others show, and they're not all exact name matches to anything in particular.....
Post by: ninja friend on January 07, 2004, 07:35:00 PM
I'll fool around with it, I guess. But this sheds some light.
*goes back to toying with a slow as hell Beetle Adventure Racing*
Post by: Eventide on January 07, 2004, 07:36:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Originally posted by lantus dyna mem is for the 'Dynamic Recompiler' : the process of generating native n64 code from x86 instructions and executing it. Its much faster than normal interpreted code (emulation of each CPU instruction, registers, I/O etc). the dynarec is an important part of the emulator, and the more memory allocated the better because more code would be generated and executed on a smaller dynarec buffer, whereas in a larger one they are already available in memory to be executed. paging mem: because its impossible to fit an entire ROM into the Xbox memory space "paging mem" determines how much of the rom will be in memory at any time. i.e if we have 4 megs of paging mem and we load conkers (64mb). 4 meg of Conkers will be in Xbox memory , and the remaining 60 Mb will require to be loaded from disk. The disk portion is the "pagefile". The pagefile , however is the entire contents of the rom. So its 64mb and not 60mb. Why? because we dont know what portion of the rom will require to be loaded in next. hope this helps |
The above quote by lantus in the thread linked by Joshua Wood leaves me with one question:
Would keeping larger roms unzipped, like Conkers, for example make the game run better? Or is the pagefile a seperate file temporarily created when the game loads?
Post by: CGMneon on January 07, 2004, 07:52:00 PM
Just wanted to say that not all patcher programs work the same way; the dexbe patched perfectly when the other programs didn't. (Oh, sure, those programs would say they worked, but they didn't.)
Everything is going great for me now.
Post by: Iriez on January 07, 2004, 08:04:00 PM
| QUOTE (Joshua Wood @ Jan 7 2004, 10:23 PM) |
| Iriez, I've verified my super mario 64 using goodrom, and it appears in the surreal.ini, but still doesn't show...I might see about finding a different dump, but it should show right? Does the .zip and the rom filename need to be something specific? I've tried renaming them to the goodrom name, no luck still, after rom refresh. My others show, and they're not all exact name matches to anything in particular..... |
Which rom is it?
mario 64 shows up fine for me.
The file name does not matter as the emulator checks the CRC of the rom.
| QUOTE |
| Would keeping larger roms unzipped, like Conkers, for example make the game run better? Or is the pagefile a seperate file temporarily created when the game loads? |
When surreal loads, it unzips and saves the rom to a temporary drive on the xbox. The rom is then accessed, sector by sector depending on what information needs to be loaded. So to answer your question, no, it would not change anything.
| QUOTE |
| Im still unsure of how to balance the two memory types out, although it appears that dyna mem should be added over paging mem. |
Depending on the game. Some games require a finer balance. Examples are SSB and banjo tooie.
Think of the recompiler as a machine. It takes computer code, and instructs the emulator how to handle the code from the N64 environment. The more memory this machine has, the more code and instructions it can fit. You can relate this to the capacity of a machine gun. The more bullets it can fit, the more bullets it can fire without being reloaded. If the recompiler has a small memory, it constantly needs to be reloaded (with code)causing the emulator to run slower.
If im incorrect on the matter, im sure lantus will point out the finer details = )
Post by: GhostHavoc on January 07, 2004, 08:32:00 PM
Ok When I try to load Surreal it freezes on loading screen. I tried the above solution but still it won't load. I have a X2 lite with 4978.03 bios, 3921 evox dash and I followed the directions carefully and i set the ROM PATH in surreal ini. Any idea? Please help
This post has been edited by GhostHavoc: Jan 8 2004, 04:34 AM
Post by: mattyj25 on January 07, 2004, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: SCVNGR23 on January 08, 2004, 12:41:00 AM
I got evolution x 3935 dashboard with a PC-BIOXX modchip ... Xecuter something bios (dont know the version and i cant get it upgraded)
Post by: Caracarn on January 08, 2004, 02:19:00 AM
I was using the controller plugged into the 2nd port. So the menu popped up and I can see the games, but pressing any of the buttons didnt do anything. When I tried the controller in the first port everything worked fine.
This may have affected others as it gives the impression that Surreal64 has crashed, when it hasnt.
Post by: kaylapuppy on January 08, 2004, 03:22:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 08, 2004, 05:06:00 AM
| QUOTE (SCVNGR23 @ Jan 8 2004, 03:41 AM) |
| tried everything .. cant get it to load .. I got evolution x 3935 dashboard with a PC-BIOXX modchip ... Xecuter something bios (dont know the version and i cant get it upgraded) |
You tried PBL aswell?
You can verify which bios you are using in Evox or with Bios checker.
| QUOTE |
| Ok, updated to 4979 bios and the 3921 evox. Still no go. Surreal loads up just fine, its the roms that freeze at the title screen. Seems like all of them do it. Don't know what else to try. Tried all kinds of roms, verified them and everything, still no go. |
Can you give a example of which roms you were trying spcifically? Full verified filenames. Also have you verified all of the surreal64 files are present on your xbox? Does the rom actually write to the drive? (the percentage thing)
Post by: GhostHavoc on January 08, 2004, 05:26:00 AM
I upgraded my bios from 4978.03 to 4980 and it fixed the problem. Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post.
Post by: teyene on January 08, 2004, 08:20:00 AM
Banjo-Kazooie (U) [!]
Banjo-Tooie (U) [!]
Super Mario 64 (U) [!]
Wave Race 64 (E) [!]
Wave Race 64 (U) (V1.0) [!]
I have run all of the above through GoodN64, and they all run on PJ64 (apart from Banjo-Tooie, obviously), so they are definitely the right roms. They still refuse to show up on the menu. It's not a huge deal for me, as other versions of the same roms will show (Wave Race 64 (U) (V1.1), or Super Mario 64(E) [!], for example) - so I can still play what I want. It just seems a little strange to me.
Post by: fezzman on January 08, 2004, 08:24:00 AM
I tried to delete this problem rom but don't know which rom in the directory to delete. I never transferred any rom with this type of messed up name.
Do you have any clues on how I can figure out which rom is causing this problem so I can delete it? I'd hate to have to try going through the list one by one to find it.
Thanks
Post by: bcb07 on January 08, 2004, 08:39:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 08, 2004, 08:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (teyene @ Jan 8 2004, 11:20 AM) |
| I still cannot get certain roms to show up on the rom list: Banjo-Kazooie (U) [!] Banjo-Tooie (U) [!] Super Mario 64 (U) [!] Wave Race 64 (E) [!] Wave Race 64 (U) (V1.0) [!] I have run all of the above through GoodN64, and they all run on PJ64 (apart from Banjo-Tooie, obviously), so they are definitely the right roms. They still refuse to show up on the menu. It's not a huge deal for me, as other versions of the same roms will show (Wave Race 64 (U) (V1.1), or Super Mario 64(E) [!], for example) - so I can still play what I want. It just seems a little strange to me. |
Im not sure about that one .. i have alot of those same roms and they display fine for me.
I suppose you'll have to use the counterpart version until we get it figured out.
bcb07: sounds like you are out of memory. Play with the paging/dyna settings.
fezzman: I cannot think of anyway to figure out which is the problem rom other than trial and error, sorry = /
GhostHavoc: Yes, 4978 (the one with the ftp) is known to cause some problems. I will add that to the list. Thanks for your input.
Post by: enixn on January 08, 2004, 08:59:00 AM
| QUOTE (bcb07 @ Jan 8 2004, 06:39 PM) |
| on a few games i have tried, banjo-tooie and zelda OOT, when i press in on the right thumbstick to bring up the surreal menu, the menu will not come up, instead it just slows the game down and will not go back to regular speed unless i restart the xbox. Does anyone know what would cause this? The roms are good too. |
a lot of times when im running zelda, there is usually less than 4 mb of free memory, so pressing the right thumbstick doesnt load up the menu, because thats how much the menu needs...but if you have like 2.5-3, it will load w/o the background screen.....i have found that if i run into a building or something it'll free up some ram for the right click menu hope this helps
also, if u have the debug screen on, and it ever gets near 1 or 0, (one time it froze on me) u will have to decrease ur dynarec/pagefile/video (dont do video) to free up enough if you really want the menu to work.....
Post by: FBRogers on January 08, 2004, 10:05:00 AM
I played through the 50CC cup on Mario Kart, and then when I cam back to load after saving states after every race it seems that I have never played it, is there an auto save state, as in when you save in the game it saves on the harddrive, by the way I am using 1964.
Post by: angell on January 08, 2004, 09:44:00 AM
Apologies if this has been covered but i cant find it.
Im using cheapmod chip, latest evo-x, standard 64 meg xbox. All normal roms work..no errors on turok etc like some people.
Post by: Iriez on January 08, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
Load save state 1 to load that position.
If loading it doesnt work, then its probably a memory issue that needs to be resolved. The loading states is buggy atm.
Post by: Joshua Wood on January 08, 2004, 11:49:00 AM
Post by: Dozi on January 08, 2004, 12:45:00 PM
Post by: Ranmaru on January 08, 2004, 12:47:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on January 08, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
To my understanding the only reason your evox is loading is because the font exploit allowed it to be loaded. At this point any other xbe that is loaded is loaded through the retail bios's rules and standards. This is why people use PBL in conjunction with the font hack.
If i am right and this is the case, then of course it wouldnt load. Its a unsigned xbe.
| QUOTE |
| I would just like to know if anyone has successfully been able to run Surreal on a nonflashable mod such as Xecuter1 or Enigmah? |
Yes, i have spoken to many people who have. All used either dexbe, craxtion, or xbe patcher.
Post by: Ranmaru on January 08, 2004, 01:24:00 PM
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Post by: ThreeGKid on January 08, 2004, 03:15:00 PM
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Post by: ftc2002 on January 08, 2004, 07:04:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on January 08, 2004, 07:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (aliens0098 @ Jan 8 2004, 05:55 PM) |
| I love Surreal and was having tons of fun with it until i decided to mess around on the main menu. I clicked on the refresh button in the lower right hand side and all of a sudden all my roms disappeared! WHAT SHOULD I DO. thanks |
You should read this first post.
Edit the surreal ini to point to your rompath, and refresh.
| QUOTE |
| well, I've been able to run my other applications fine (XBMP, SNES emu, backup games, etc.) having them re-signed |
That was what i thought. I dont know about that process, so im unsure of whether it would work with surreal.
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| does surreal write something to my hdd other than /E:/TDATA/a64fea57/surreal.ini that i should be deleting before a reinstall? |
No.
I honestly dont know what your issue is. Are you pressing the Y button before launching? That removes/adds the little star. I dont know whats happening, so im unsure of what advice i can give.
Post by: Iriez on January 08, 2004, 07:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (one2 @ Jan 8 2004, 06:05 PM) |
| I've had the same problem with verified zipped roms not showing up in surreal, but I resolved that by unzipping those roms and reuploading. perhaps it's due to zip files having imbedded comments or having more than one file in the zip that causes the problem. hope this helps somebody. |
This would make sense.
If the file is zipped in a way that surreal cannot process, then it will not be able to extract the rom to verify the crc , and check against surreal.ini to see which rom it is.
I'll add that to the first post.
Post by: Iriez on January 08, 2004, 07:29:00 PM
| QUOTE (ftc2002 @ Jan 8 2004, 10:04 PM) |
| I am having a problem loading my roms, I already patched the xbe to get the emulator. Now the emulator loads but when I go to select the roms they start loading. It goes from 0 to 100 percent and then the screen just stays black. I seen a couple posts about this, but no replies. Any suggestions would be appreciated. |
You said xbe. That doesnt sound plural = )
Did you patch the other xbe's the same way? All xbe's need to be patched.
Post by: Beelzebud on January 08, 2004, 08:45:00 PM
When I use 1964 his head is displaying fine. I even tried a rom from a different source. 1964 it's ok, and in ultra hle it looks white. It's just got me stumped because the other day it was fine.
Like I said, in-game appears to be okay so far. It's just his head at the beginning. Every other rom I've loaded has been fine as well. Even Goldeneye loaded in Ultra HLE. Is Mario playable/completeable in 1964 or pj-64?
Post by: feflicker on January 08, 2004, 09:26:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Tonight I load the rom up and Mario's head (on the title screen) is mostly white |
Mine has been that way from the beginning, I haven't tried tweaking the memory settings yet though...
Post by: Beelzebud on January 08, 2004, 09:30:00 PM
I'm assuming the only settings that will pertain to Ultra HLE is the Max Video Memory setting, and Audio Plug-in.
Post by: ftc2002 on January 08, 2004, 10:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Jan 9 2004, 05:29 AM) | ||
You said xbe. That doesnt sound plural = ) Did you patch the other xbe's the same way? All xbe's need to be patched. |
Thanx Iriez that did the trick, I can't wait to try the rest of my roms tomorrow.
Post by: Iriez on January 09, 2004, 05:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (Beelzebud @ Jan 8 2004, 11:45 PM) |
| Even Goldeneye loaded in Ultra HLE. Is Mario playable/completeable in 1964 or pj-64? |
Of course golden eye loaded with ultrahle, thats the emulator your supposed to play with.
And i would play with 1964/pj64 for mario64 over UltraHLE anyday. I dont know why oDD selected it as the default. It should have been one of the others.
Post by: johnmiceter on January 09, 2004, 07:30:00 AM
I'm not sure if this matters, but I am running Bios EVOX 2.2. And I can't reflash it because of my modchip. It is a homebrew chip and the only way to flash it I was told , is to take it out (out it has 32 wires) and flash it manually. And I have no idea how to do that.
So I hope I can still run this with my current Bios. I also have all the in game Reset switches set to OFF.
I Just want to get this working because all of you's are making me jelous with the games you are playing
Post by: Iriez on January 09, 2004, 07:17:00 AM
Post by: johnmiceter on January 09, 2004, 08:08:00 AM
And the reason I didn't use xbe patcher is becuase there was no info with it that explained how to use it. So I was just sticking to patching programs I know how to use
And this is how I have it on my PC in a folder. I have 2 folders called Media and Roms and have the roms in my rom folder and just made a ISO image. And after I did that I patched the ISO with Craxtion and it said all files patched successfully. SO I don't know what I am doing wrong.
Directory of D:Xbox ProgramsEMULATORSN64 EmuSurreal64
Media
Roms
1964.ini
1964.xbe
default.xbe
Pj64.xbe
Project64X.rdb
RiceDaedalus5.1.0.ini
Surreal.ini
Surreal64.nfo
ultra.ini
UltraHLE.xbe
Post by: Iriez on January 09, 2004, 08:44:00 AM
To use xbe patcher simply extract the xbepatch.exe (or whatever the filename is) to your c:\ drive
Open up a command prompt and make sure you are at your <c:\>
Put your xbe files in the C:\ aswell. Type xbepatch filename.xbe
Patch all of them.
Then move them back to the folder you used to create the iso.
Also, what are you using to create the iso? I would recommend SimpleXiso
And you havnt tried dexbe yet? You really gotta follow the directions man. You cant expect it to work if you cannot follow the suggestions. Use dexbe to patch, if that doesnt work then use xbe patcher. It isnt a option...if you want it to work you have to try. I have yet to hear of a success story from craxtion...but we'll see.
Also type twice so they show. The forum code removes them if you only type them once.
Post by: johnmiceter on January 09, 2004, 08:47:00 AM
And I use ISO maker 1.21.
I will try it first thing in the morning and hopefully I can get this to work.
Post by: Beelzebud on January 09, 2004, 09:25:00 AM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Jan 9 2004, 02:27 PM) | ||
Of course golden eye loaded with ultrahle, thats the emulator your supposed to play with. And i would play with 1964/pj64 for mario64 over UltraHLE anyday. I dont know why oDD selected it as the default. It should have been one of the others. |
Yeah I was merely pointing out that HLE was loading the other game just fine. But thanks for the advice of running Mario in the other emus. I'll give it a try.
Post by: ampedXR on January 09, 2004, 01:48:00 PM
I can get the program to run and I can see all the games listed. The problem I run into is that when I click on Project64 or the Ultra it loads the rom (I see it go to 100 percent) but then it just goes to a black screen and freezes.
I tried to patch the xbe's and still no luck. How you guys do this I have no idea
Guess you just need more patience than I have!
Post by: lupes5 on January 09, 2004, 02:01:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on January 09, 2004, 02:05:00 PM
Watch it and see how much free space you have.
Post by: RicoUzuki on January 09, 2004, 03:58:00 PM
Post by: pest2oo2 on January 09, 2004, 05:22:00 PM
Post by: johnmiceter on January 09, 2004, 05:28:00 PM
The oly thing now is, every time I go to load up a rom, it loads it ok, but as soon as it finished laoding, it just turns into a black screen and stays there ? I've tried about 10 different games and they all do the same .
Any idea on why it does this ?
Post by: Iriez on January 09, 2004, 06:38:00 PM
That or the rom you have is bad. Is it goodn64 verified and verified in the compatibility thread to be working?
Post by: ampedXR on January 09, 2004, 10:08:00 PM
| QUOTE (johnmiceter @ Jan 9 2004, 08:52 PM) |
| Iriez, I just wanted to say thanks for your help. I followed your exact instructions and it works now The oly thing now is, every time I go to load up a rom, it loads it ok, but as soon as it finished laoding, it just turns into a black screen and stays there ? I've tried about 10 different games and they all do the same . Any idea on why it does this ? |
same problem here, and I have patched everything. Kinda weird.
The roms seem fine because I can play them on my pc, like on project64 for pc and stuff. The games dont seem to matter
Post by: johnmiceter on January 09, 2004, 10:48:00 PM
Because the roms do seem to be fine. The ones I tested were, Mario party 1,2 and 3. US and E versions. Mario Golf US, Mario Tennis US and E , Mario 64 and Mario Kart.
By reading the compatibillity thread, they all play perfect exccept Mario Tennis I think ?
But for me , every time I load a rom up , you see it loading and goes past 100% and then it looks like the game is about to load up, but it's just a black screen.
And it just stays black for ever .
Post by: Iriez on January 10, 2004, 12:10:00 AM
You got it to load in the first place, so im not sure what other advice to offer. Phoneix bios loader might be a better solution for you.
Post by: parkerbender on January 10, 2004, 06:34:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 10, 2004, 10:51:00 AM
ANOTHER REMINDER , since people didnt read the first few.
This is not a bug thread. Please do not report game bugs here, or ask questions which are CLEARLY answered by reading the README or the first post of this thread.
Any questions that are asked that are clearly adressed in this first post or README, or any other material unrelevent to this thread will be deleted.
Post by: asher on January 10, 2004, 01:08:00 PM
now i can play my roms...
thanksssssssssss
Post by: Antipop on January 10, 2004, 02:14:00 PM
Post by: teyene on January 10, 2004, 05:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Jan 9 2004, 05:24 AM) | ||
This would make sense. If the file is zipped in a way that surreal cannot process, then it will not be able to extract the rom to verify the crc , and check against surreal.ini to see which rom it is. I'll add that to the first post. |
This has solved my problem. Thank you so much.
Post by: bballctr144 on January 10, 2004, 08:00:00 PM
any suggestions..thanks
Post by: Iriez on January 10, 2004, 09:54:00 PM
Turn on debug info and watch the free mem. If it drops below 3mb then you are running out of memory to display the menu. Adjust the memory settings before launching.
Post by: johnmiceter on January 11, 2004, 12:27:00 AM
All's I did, was unzipped the surreal 64 again , and repatched them only with xbepatcher, not Craxtion, and then I just burned it as data to a DVDRW and it works
So thanks, I can finally enjoy this great Emulator
Post by: baysic on January 11, 2004, 11:52:00 AM
Post by: EarthBound on January 11, 2004, 03:53:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on January 11, 2004, 04:03:00 PM
The xbox filelimit is 4096 files in one directory i believe. You dont exactly qualify for that.
Post by: Iriez on January 11, 2004, 09:11:00 PM
Do i really have to post this every page?
THIS IS NOT A THREAD TO POST GAME BUGS. THERE IS A BUG THREAD FOR SUCH MATTERS. ANY NON REVELENT POSTS WILL BE DELETED.
Think the caps will do it, or should it be in color?
Post by: damarsman on January 12, 2004, 09:23:00 AM
Post by: JLR on January 12, 2004, 10:23:00 AM
Post by: mde3233967 on January 12, 2004, 01:32:00 PM
you might want to try one of the bios posted on the first page. the two you posted have problems
Post by: gasclown on January 12, 2004, 01:33:00 PM
One problem though, i have searched and manually looked at every post involving surreal. this is what has happenned. tooled with emulator checked a bunch of roms - conkers worked (woohoo!) but after i made a save it wont load anymore, just black screens. I deleted all saves, every thing to do with surreal including tdata. reuploaded the whole emu and its still doing it. can any one help i really want to play conker on xbox?
Post by: ampedXR on January 12, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (JLR @ Jan 12 2004, 01:47 PM) |
| I have not been able to get surreal64 to work at all with either the 4977 or 4980 bois's and even patching the default.xbe hasn't worked either, does anyone wanna help a lost sole. |
I had the same problem. I was finally able to get PJ64 to work after I patched it with XBEPatcher and Craxtion does nothing for any of those files.
I am still working on getting Ultra to work, so if you can get your hands on XBE Patcher try that and at least that will get you going for now.
I am going to continue to patch until I get the other one going I will let you guys know my findings (i have already posted another thread on that in here if you SEARCH-this is not a help thread)
Post by: neejoh on January 12, 2004, 02:37:00 PM
Bios: 4976.02
| CODE |
[Settings] Rom Path=F:Roms Media Path=F:Media |
| CODE |
drwxr-xr-x 1 XBOX XBOX 0 May 11 11:41 .. drwxr-xr-x 1 XBOX XBOX 0 feb 10 15:52 Apps drwxr-xr-x 1 XBOX XBOX 0 feb 10 21:11 Movies drwxr-xr-x 1 XBOX XBOX 0 feb 10 21:11 Music drwxr-xr-x 1 XBOX XBOX 0 sep 17 01:06 Stuff -rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX 1633220 dec 28 00:05 xboxdash.xbe drwxr-xr-x 1 XBOX XBOX 0 feb 10 15:51 Games drwxr-xr-x 1 XBOX XBOX 0 jan 09 19:08 Media drwxr-xr-x 1 XBOX XBOX 0 jan 09 19:10 Roms |
(that xboxdash.xbe is for my modded dualboot)
When i start the game from Evox, or Avalaunch it both hangs.
I tried to set the .ini in the /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini
But then it also hangs.....
What's wrong?
Post by: JLR on January 12, 2004, 03:07:00 PM
| QUOTE (ampedXR @ Jan 12 2004, 10:54 PM) | ||
I had the same problem. I was finally able to get PJ64 to work after I patched it with XBEPatcher and Craxtion does nothing for any of those files. I am still working on getting Ultra to work, so if you can get your hands on XBE Patcher try that and at least that will get you going for now. I am going to continue to patch until I get the other one going I will let you guys know my findings (i have already posted another thread on that in here if you SEARCH-this is not a help thread) |
I tried that and it never worked
Post by: mde3233967 on January 12, 2004, 06:18:00 PM
click on file
open
then select the xbe you want to patch
click file agian
patch to retail
click on file agian and then save close the program open it back up and patch another. do that for avery xbe you patch then when your done if you have a x-ecuter the first chip they made your going to half to patch them .xbe i used craxtion to do that if its set for auto-patch just make a iso with the program and burn with nero
work for me
Post by: Iriez on January 12, 2004, 07:57:00 PM
| QUOTE (neejoh @ Jan 12 2004, 05:01 PM) |
| What's wrong? |
| CODE |
[Settings] Rom Path=F:\Roms Media Path=F:\Media |
Why is it set to those directories?
Is your surreal really installed in F:\ ?
Put your roms in a Roms folder in your surreal directory on the xbox. Make both of those settings D:\Roms and D:\Media
Set those paths in the /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini file, then re launch it and hit refresh on the romlist.
Post by: Yosco on January 12, 2004, 07:59:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| THIS IS NOT A THREAD TO POST GAME BUGS. THERE IS A BUG THREAD FOR SUCH MATTERS. ANY NON REVELENT POSTS WILL BE DELETED. |
Can you pin the bug thread? I think I have some things to share on savestates.
Post by: neejoh on January 13, 2004, 10:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Jan 13 2004, 05:21 AM) | ||||
Why is it set to those directories? Is your surreal really installed in F: ? Put your roms in a Roms folder in your surreal directory on the xbox. Make both of those settings D:Roms and D:Media Set those paths in the /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini file, then re launch it and hit refresh on the romlist. |
The Problem isn't that i can't load the roms, but i can't load the whole program.
I had installed Surreal64 on the F:/Apps/Surreal64
and had the
| CODE |
[Settings] Rom Path=F:/Apps/Surreal64/Roms Media Path=F:/Apps/Surreal64/Media |
Because i installed it on the F: drive.
Both didn't work.
I did set those path's in -> /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini
But i did have to put that file there manually, it did create it from itself.
Post by: tom_g05 on January 13, 2004, 02:37:00 PM
Post by: sambora on January 13, 2004, 03:03:00 PM
The first thing i noticed was that F-zero comes up "is expansioj pk inserted correctly?" on the title screen. Is there a wat to toggle the (virtual) n64 memmory pak on or off?
Also, I scanned my roms with the advised programs and F-zero showed up as aworkin grom o.k, but my Sin and punishment and Super smash brothers didn't show up atall in the rom verifying programs even though they seem to be names correctly and I've used the roms with N64 emus on my pc.
Can anyone help?
Post by: Iriez on January 13, 2004, 03:12:00 PM
| QUOTE (neejoh @ Jan 13 2004, 12:29 PM) | ||
| The Problem isn't that i can't load the roms, but i can't load the whole program. I had installed Surreal64 on the F:/Apps/Surreal64 and had the
Because i installed it on the F: drive. Both didn't work. I did set those path's in -> /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini But i did have to put that file there manually, it did create it from itself. |
k.
You need to listen to my directions, and follow them exactly before posting. Simply do as i said, and it should be all good.
If its not, then we will work from there.
Keep it exactly where it is.
Make both of those paths D:\Roms and D:\Media in the /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini file, launch and refresh.
Post by: Iriez on January 13, 2004, 03:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (sambora @ Jan 13 2004, 05:27 PM) |
| I finally got surreal to work by patching the .xbes. The first thing i noticed was that F-zero comes up "is expansioj pk inserted correctly?" on the title screen. Is there a wat to toggle the (virtual) n64 memmory pak on or off? Also, I scanned my roms with the advised programs and F-zero showed up as aworkin grom o.k, but my Sin and punishment and Super smash brothers didn't show up atall in the rom verifying programs even though they seem to be names correctly and I've used the roms with N64 emus on my pc. Can anyone help? |
Click on the left analog stick to toggle between mem pak and rumble.
As far as scanning roms goes, if they were not put in the N64Ren folder, they they are unknown roms. I dont doubt they work on your pc, but they might give you unwanted results in Surreal64 ..or will not play at all. Find a (U) [!] dump.
Post by: Gamer2k2 on January 13, 2004, 05:07:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on January 13, 2004, 07:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (Gamer2k2 @ Jan 13 2004, 07:31 PM) |
| i tried booting from D (DVDR) and freeze in loading screen.. i edited .ini pointing to D and patched with craxtion all the xbes too. any sugestion?? can u help me Iriez?? plzz thanks |
My only suggestion is to simply read my first post. I dont know why anyone cannot just read it....its baffling.
From the first post...
| QUOTE |
| Are you using a old modchip such as xecuter 1, or enigmah/xtender? - Try patching first (all your xbe files)with dexbe to retail, and if that doesnt work your going to need to use Phoenix Bios Loader (PBL) to boot another bios into memory before launching. This will not go into support for using PBL. Please use at your own descretion. People who cannot get it to load by patching with dexbe should also try xbe patcher |
See how i recommended dexbe first? Thats because its had the most success. Where dexbe didnt work, xbe patcher did, and i've yet to hear of a single person getting it working with craxtion. So i'll just remove craxtion, because for some insane reason it seems to be everyones favorite. Why..when it doesnt work...i dont know.
This leads me to conclude that you didnt read it, or did not pay attention to it. The post specifically says to use dexbe, and if that doesnt work to use xbe patcher. If that doesnt work, it specifically says to use PBL. Now, why does someone post with only trying one option? Dont you know im just going to repeat what is already obvious?
Post by: Yosco on January 13, 2004, 09:08:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Are you running a 4977 bios? (One thats been patched for lba48) Or 4978? Both are known to cause issues - Reflash with a evox bios, or 4976.06 or 4979.06/67 + |
Just wanted to clear this up, you mean X-ecuter bios instead of evox which is the dashboard and 3935 is the latest I believe.
Post by: Iriez on January 13, 2004, 10:08:00 PM
Post by: Helios on January 14, 2004, 04:58:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 14, 2004, 09:07:00 AM
This is NOT a game bug thread. This is NOT a thread to help you past getting surreal to load. You obviously have no problems whatsoever *running* surreal, so do not post in this thread. There is a buglist thread...go find it and post there.
Post by: sambora on January 14, 2004, 09:48:00 AM
Also, is there a way to have the rumble and the expansion pack on at teh same time?
Post by: Iriez on January 14, 2004, 09:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (sambora @ Jan 14 2004, 12:12 PM) |
| Clicking on the left analogue stick does nothing when I try, it doesn't switch on the Memmory expansion pak. Also, is there a way to have the rumble and the expansion pack on at teh same time? |
You downloaded the leak, not the v1.0 . We will not offer any support to you.
No, you cannot have both at the same time.
Post by: DBZRacer on January 14, 2004, 12:07:00 PM
So is anyone else having problems running the 4980.06 and 4980.67 BIOS with Surreal? I just saw one person above who mentioned the new 4980 bios...
Post by: Master-Chief on January 14, 2004, 03:16:00 PM
-Master-Chief
Post by: xXx inc. on January 14, 2004, 04:22:00 PM
thanks (, sorry my english is very poor . i espeak spanish )
thank
Post by: Iriez on January 14, 2004, 07:41:00 PM
If yes, did you patch all the others?
Post by: xXx inc. on January 15, 2004, 04:22:00 AM
and all the others?
maybe i patched i dont now i am not sure..
thanks
Post by: Iriez on January 15, 2004, 05:21:00 AM
Goodbye.
Post by: xXx inc. on January 15, 2004, 12:36:00 PM
ohh sorry i read the first post but i dont understand everything ..... but now i read and i understand sorry and thanks
Post by: xXx inc. on January 15, 2004, 12:10:00 PM
how i have to patch the xbox xbe archive with xbepatch.exe?
thanks again
Post by: sambora on January 15, 2004, 01:24:00 PM
Should I try patching the files with another patcher? I did Dl xbpatcher but i couldn't even open teh program as it seems to try to run like a dos.exe and does nothing.
I'd like to use teh official release of surreal so hat i can turn the expansion pak on.
Cheers.
Post by: Iriez on January 15, 2004, 01:33:00 PM
Go to start, run, and type cmd then hit enter
Put your xbe's in C:\ aswell
Type C:
This should bring you to C:\>
Type xbepatch default.xbe
xbepatch 1964.xbe
xbepatch pj64.xbe
xbepatch ultrahle.xbe
then resend them to your xbox.
Try dexbe first.
File, open, select xbe, file patch to retail. Do to all xbe's.
Post by: Nirobr151 on January 15, 2004, 02:04:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on January 15, 2004, 07:44:00 PM
Post by: sambora on January 15, 2004, 11:16:00 PM
Post by: sambora on January 16, 2004, 12:33:00 PM
i need to use it to patch the .xbes to run Surreal x 1.0
Post by: Piratevirus on January 17, 2004, 03:12:00 AM
I can usuall figure out how to solve things! i have Exloited 100's of Xbox's and been around the scene since it started but this is the one tihng that has stumped me!
Patched allt he XBE's with DEXBE, uploaded em all, emulator works great but then Black screen when i try to load a rom on any of the emulators,
So unrared Surreal again to my pc, Patched all xbe's with XBEPATCHER and still the same! black screen after selecting a rom, not one will load!
If anyoen can supply pre patched Xbe's that they know work i would be more than gratefuill, drop me a PM or make any suggestions
Cheers
Post by: xXx inc. on January 17, 2004, 07:26:00 AM
i have the same problem.... is you now or somebody now how you the problem please tell me.... or
"If anyoen can supply patched Xbe's that they know work " i am requesting the same .. i need the same thing!!! please
thanks
Post by: Iriez on January 17, 2004, 10:11:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Are you using a old modchip such as xecuter 1, or enigmah/xtender? - Try patching first (all your xbe files)with dexbe to retail, and if that doesnt work your going to need to use Phoenix Bios Loader (PBL) to boot another bios into memory before launching. |
Post by: xXx inc. on January 17, 2004, 03:51:00 PM
sorry but i am a rookie in this things
and i have xecuter 2 and i patch all xbe files
thanks advanced
Post by: Iriez on January 17, 2004, 06:30:00 PM
the
first
post
...
..........
............. ok.
Post by: djdafreund on January 17, 2004, 11:15:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on January 18, 2004, 08:32:00 PM
Seriously, how many times do i need to say it?
IF PATCHING THE XBE'S DOES NOT WORK THEN YOU MUST USE PBL.
END OF STORY.
Its outlined in the first post quite clearly, but apparently people just have a issue accepting what is said, dont they?
To the user whom post i just deleted.
You are a victim of the above. Dont post on this thread whinning like a 3rd year old when you cannot read the first post, even though you sat there explaining how you read it. You obviously did not, since you missed the part above yes?
Heres how it breaks down.
Exploits suck.
They cause nothing but issues. If you want to use a 'hack' to get your xbox to work, then DONT expect shit to work right. Do it the right way or you will recieve the wrong results.
Post by: DBZRacer on January 18, 2004, 09:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (DBZRacer @ Jan 14 2004, 01:31 PM) |
| Anyways for my Surreal64 experience. I tried it out last night since I found time to play with the xbox a little. Surreal hung as expected with both a 4977 and 4976.02 X2 bios patched with big F support. I didn't have enough time last night to go through creating a new BIOS but will try later this week. So is anyone else having problems running the 4980.06 and 4980.67 BIOS with Surreal? I just saw one person above who mentioned the new 4980 bios... |
Well to answer my own question, I upgraded to my modified 4980.06 tonight and fired up Surreal. Wow this thing is amazing!
No more freezes or anything asides from the different emu/rom combination when I upgraded to 4980.06. Time to play (i mean test) some more...
Post by: Mu5t4rD on January 19, 2004, 09:30:00 AM
Post by: DBZRacer on January 19, 2004, 11:39:00 AM
| QUOTE (Mu5t4rD @ Jan 19 2004, 10:54 AM) |
| I changed the rom path in the regular sureal.ini then kept reading and saw about chaning it in tdata, so i did that as well but it still will not show my roms... i double checked and made sure they are actually there, and i clicked the load rom button in surreal to refresh but no roms are showing up.. |
I had the same problem last night. Try this: Go into your MS Dash, delete the surreal 64 game save, and reload surreal back up again. After I did that, my roms showed up fine.
Post by: Xoria on January 19, 2004, 05:58:00 PM
Post by: crazypranks on January 19, 2004, 09:31:00 PM
ps and to those not reading the first post such will be your fate
<-----
Post by: Iriez on January 19, 2004, 09:56:00 PM
What did you use to patch it?
All the details please, it will help others.
Post by: kingleg on January 20, 2004, 07:05:00 AM
BTW, I recommend Xiso for all patching.
Post by: Iriez on January 20, 2004, 08:47:00 AM
| QUOTE (kingleg @ Jan 20 2004, 09:29 AM) |
| Any help would be much appreciated. I am having a bit of an odd problem in regards to using surreal, in regards to data transfer. I am using win 98, win commander or ftpx, and only some roms will transfer, while others give me a 426 error, connection closed, file opening failed. Specifically, this happens with titles like the zeldas and the original mystical ninja. (this is when ftping from pc to xbox). Again, any possible solutions would be much appreciated. The roms, btw, are a good dump. BTW, I recommend Xiso for all patching. |
There is a 42 character name limit, aswell as restrictions on certian characters. Remove comma's or semicolons from the names, and shorten it.
xISO for patching? As in the first xISO? What hack/mod are you using that you achieved success with xISO?
Post by: insectgod on January 21, 2004, 07:17:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on January 21, 2004, 09:30:00 PM
Post by: Yosco on January 22, 2004, 05:32:00 AM
Maybe some type of post template is needed-
Did you read the first post?:
Bios version:
Dashboard type/version:
Modchip:
XBE's patched: (With what tool)
Detailed problem and steps used to recreate:
Just thought I'd help, feel free to delete.
Post by: Iriez on January 22, 2004, 08:47:00 AM
Post by: PrOBy_ on January 23, 2004, 12:11:00 PM
thx in advance.
Post by: Iriez on January 23, 2004, 02:24:00 PM
Post by: PrOBy_ on January 23, 2004, 02:38:00 PM
Post by: PrOBy_ on January 23, 2004, 03:07:00 PM
thx anyways.
Post by: Iriez on January 23, 2004, 04:29:00 PM
You'll find out if its the PS though, it will catch on fire soon enough ; )
Post by: gnutellafan on January 25, 2004, 08:12:00 AM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Jan 7 2004, 04:15 PM) |
| You need to change it to be Rom Path=F:Pathtoyourroms . If you are putting the roms in the 'roms' folder inside your surreal64 install dir, then make the Rom Path=D:Roms |
I find this part to be confusing. So if my install dir for Surreal64 is:
F:EmulatorsSurreal64
and I put the ROMS folder in the Surreal64 folder (F:EmulatorsSurreal64ROMS)
then my roms path should be:
Path=D:Roms ???
not
F:EmulatorsSurreal64ROMS ???
Would this causer Surreal not to launch or just not find roms, since launching surreal freezes at the dashboard loading screen?
Post by: znlpe on January 25, 2004, 11:24:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 25, 2004, 12:49:00 PM
| QUOTE (gnutellafan @ Jan 25 2004, 10:36 AM) | ||
I find this part to be confusing. So if my install dir for Surreal64 is: F:\Emulators\Surreal64 and I put the ROMS folder in the Surreal64 folder (F:\Emulators\Surreal64\ROMS) then my roms path should be: Path=D:\Roms ??? not F:\Emulators\Surreal64\ROMS ??? Would this causer Surreal not to launch or just not find roms, since launching surreal freezes at the dashboard loading screen? |
It could be either, as both point to the correct path.
D: becomes the root directory of the xbe that is launched, so if its in F:\blah\who\caressurreal.xbe
Then F:\blah\who\cares\ will become D:\
So if you set it at D:\Roms , it would be F:\blah\who\caresRoms (in this example)
Its better to leave it at D:\Roms because the less configuration, the less chance for mistakes.
Post by: UncleUngie on January 27, 2004, 12:16:00 AM
it saves the rom settings, loads the rom (percentage goes up to 99%), the screen goes black and the machine freezes.
I've tried launching the emulator from the dash and from the file explorer...same thing. The rom works like a charm on my computer.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Post by: Big Vito on January 27, 2004, 11:57:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 27, 2004, 04:02:00 PM
You NEED to post which rom version you are using. Use GOODN64 as described in the FIRST post to identify which rom you have.
I cannot offer ANY help unless you tell me exactly which rom you are using.
Post by: Big Vito on January 27, 2004, 04:08:00 PM
Post by: Big Vito on January 27, 2004, 04:51:00 PM
Post by: Big Vito on January 28, 2004, 03:13:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 28, 2004, 01:58:00 PM
What memory settings are you using? Launching from evox ? Which emulator are you choosing to try to play it?
What bios are you running? Or are you running a software exploit?
Post by: Dude_Son on January 28, 2004, 08:43:00 PM
thanks in advance!!!!
Post by: Iriez on January 28, 2004, 09:00:00 PM
Post by: Dude_Son on January 28, 2004, 10:17:00 PM
Post by: corkinator on January 29, 2004, 01:03:00 AM
I have tried a few bios' and also launching from Evo-X, MXM or XBMP and get the same results either way. Every game runs how it's supposed to (according to compat. lists etc) but I am having trouble with the larger roms.
I have an old Xbox with an old Executor chip. It's PAL but I have also tried these following roms in NSTC with no different results.
As I say, many other games run great and a few games I have not seen in compat. lists seem to work ok too.
However the larger roms won't load.
In particular, the Zelda games. My roms -
Legend of Zelda, The - Ocarina of Time (U) (V1.0) [!].rom
Legend of Zelda, The - Majora's Mask (E) (M4) [!].rom
Legend of Zelda, The - Majora's Mask (U) [!].rom
Conker's Bad Fur Day (U) [!].zip
Jet Force Gemini (U) [!].zip
Perfect Dark (U) (V1.0) [!].zip
I have never seen any graphics from these 6 roms in any emu from Surreal (OOT played fine in the original UltraXLE and all games are verified by GoodN64 and have all worked in PC emu's).
I start the game and it goes black and freezes. I cannot click the thumbsticks either and I have waited very long times for them to load, but no luck. This is the same in all 3 emu's in Surreal.
Hopefully it is to do with needing different memory settings and someone can help.
Thanks for your time, I appreciate it!
Post by: Gulmor on January 29, 2004, 04:27:00 PM
Can somebaody help me please?
Post by: thecheekymonkey on January 29, 2004, 05:05:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on January 29, 2004, 10:17:00 PM
Always refresh if you make changes
Post by: rtpiii on January 30, 2004, 04:29:00 AM
Any ideas? Anyone know hot to get the same savestate to work with a different emulator so that I can use a savestate from PJ64 on Ultra?
Post by: Iriez on January 30, 2004, 10:40:00 AM
This thread is for help with getting surreal started, *not* game compatibility help.
Post by: Gulmor on January 31, 2004, 09:02:00 PM
I appreciate any contribution
Post by: rockfordbass on February 01, 2004, 06:12:00 AM
Post by: hidden_agenda on February 01, 2004, 03:54:00 PM
My problem is that I can run surreal just fine, but it hangs on a black screen when trying to start any of the three actual emulators. I have a version 1.0 xbox with a BioXX modchip. I have tried various version of the evox bios and the xecuter2 bios (including versions listed on the first page of this thread.) I have tried patching with Dextrose and also xbeloader (all of the xbe's). Nothing works. I have even went so far as to try the stand alone versions pj64 and ultrahle, both of which also hung at a black screen.
The only n64 emu I have ever got to work was the old version of daedalus (which lacked sound.)
Hence I am left with trying PBL, but I have never messed with it... Does it have good instructions with the program?
I am about to the point now that I may just give up... (spending an entire afternoon trying to get an emulator working can tax a person's patience with trying further things...
I am amused however, at how the emulator will easily work for some people but not everyone...
Thanks for any help...
Post by: Iriez on February 01, 2004, 06:28:00 PM
hidden_agenda: The purpose of PBL is to load a bios into memory for those people who have older non flash upgradeable modchips. in your situation it is worthless, as you can flash upgrade.
If you upgraded to the recommended bios and are still getting a black screen, then most likely your problem is narrowed down to a few things.
Which rom are you trying to load? Have you verified it with good tools? Have you hit the 'refresh' button in the lower right corner? You could be trying to load a rom that the program thinks exists (as its written to to the romlist upon startup) but really doesnt.
Post by: Iriez on February 01, 2004, 08:51:00 PM
I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A GAME COMPATIBILITY THREAD. THIS IS NOT A THREAD TO HELP YOU GET 'INSERT GAME HERE' WORKING. THIS IS NOT A THREAD TO DISCUSS MEMORY SETTINGS, OR ANY TYPE OF TALK IN RELATION TO GAME PLAY. THIS IS A HELP THREAD TO GETTING SURREAL RUNNING. DIRECT ALL GAMEPLAY ISSUES TO THE COMPATIBILITY THREAD. NO THANKS.
Post by: gloworm on February 01, 2004, 10:59:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| From Iriez: You need to put your .zip (roms) files into a folder called roms. Then you need to open up simplexiso and choose that folder and it will create a .iso. Burn it however you wish. Make the surreal.ini A:\\Roms and make sure thats the way it is in the /E/Tdata/ location. Load and refresh. |
| QUOTE |
| From Iriez: First, you must create a xiso of your roms. Create a New folder...name it whatever you please. Go into it, and make a directory called "Roms". Put all of your N64 Roms in there. Use Simple Xiso and select that 'new directory' that you created for creating a xiso. The point is to create a xiso with a roms folder on there, and NOT your roms on the root directory of the disk. If you put them directly on the disk it will not work. Create the xiso, and burn using record now max or nero or whatever your favorite burning software is. |
Secondaly, I've tried both ways and neither are working for me. I've editied my surreal.ini to say Games A:\Roms and nothing. I am using CD-RW's my xbox can read. I have a Xenium chip. I installed surreal on my xbox using boxplorer. I was told by someone to erase the saved file on my hd with the orginal ms dashboard that has a picture of toad on it. I did this and now when I try to boot up Surreal 64 it freezes at the load screen. I read the tutorials and I don't see how any of those pertain to me. I have a brand new chip, I flashe it with xenium_bios_cd_with_x-ecuter_2_4981.06_bios . I also went to check several times on my original ms dashboard in the HD and noticed even thouhg I keep erasing the saved game file from the hd it keeps showing back up everytime I reboot the xbox. Please help, I've been trying for 4 days to just get the program to bring up my roms list, now I it freezes at the load screen! Agghhhhh.....please help
Post by: zickfun on February 02, 2004, 05:06:00 PM
. Somebody help, it's the same problem I had with PJ64X.
Post by: Iriez on February 02, 2004, 09:41:00 PM
zickfun: You PAL or NTSC? Also, which rom are you trying to load? Goodn64 name please. Does this happen with several, or just one? Have you tried other known good dumps?
Post by: nmajin on February 04, 2004, 07:01:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on February 04, 2004, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: The LukeMan on February 04, 2004, 11:20:00 PM
When i load surreal i go on to settings and customize the yellow buttons on the right on the N64 controller diagram and i assign them yet when i play games them buttons dont work so on mortal kombat for instance i can use low punch high punch no kicks
Post by: Iriez on February 05, 2004, 06:54:00 AM
Post by: freakdave on February 05, 2004, 07:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Feb 5 2004, 04:18 PM) |
| I believe the controller config is broken in some games, and (possibly?) all. |
the 'main' controller config on the left of the screen does NOT work,
however the controller config for each specific rom DOES work (not talking about the A is X button bug though)
Post by: Iriez on February 05, 2004, 12:17:00 PM
Post by: Anime_Guy on February 07, 2004, 12:05:00 AM
ok so it work fine for the most part it starts up the roms appear with all the names and box art (cept EVA64 but im guessin its a unheard of game) well anyway i click on it then i click an emulator and it goes to the part where it goes 0-100% but after a few secs (no change in percentage) it goes to a permanent black screen now weve already reflashed our BIOS to what i believe to be the latest one so whatta i do now
plz help
Post by: Iriez on February 07, 2004, 10:17:00 AM
Post DETAILS people.
Post by: Anime_Guy on February 07, 2004, 04:59:00 PM
time clock is set up correctly to NZ time (your refering to the clock in the standard dashboard right?)
and ive been trying a multitude of roms like banjo kazooie, zelda :OOT,Evangelion64,Mario 64 and lots more
not sure about that good64 thing where can i get it?
thanx in advance
Post by: Iriez on February 07, 2004, 05:10:00 PM
Post by: Anime_Guy on February 07, 2004, 06:17:00 PM
" 'rom name' -0%"
what arent i doing man
Post by: Iriez on February 08, 2004, 02:09:00 PM
Its simply a means of identification so we can help you. What rom? Full goodn64 name , mind you.
Post by: thefatness on February 08, 2004, 03:53:00 PM
i want to run surreal from a DVD. ive installed Surreal but it doesnt matter how i change the damn rompath, IT HAS NEVER GOT POST THE 'LAUCHING' SCREEN TO GET TO SURREAL (ive never even seen the damn surreal screen
)i have an Xecuter 2.2 with Evox 1.8.xxxx bios.
can someone please help me? i'll be forever appreciate
Post by: BaDHaBiTt on February 08, 2004, 04:20:00 PM
The reason I wrote this is because no matter how I burn the DVD with roms AND surreal64 on it, the roms are nowhere to be found.
Now I simply don't give a fuck anymore....
Post by: Iriez on February 08, 2004, 05:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (thefatness @ Feb 8 2004, 06:17 PM) |
| ok, im having a shitload of problems here. i want to run surreal from a DVD. ive installed Surreal but it doesnt matter how i change the damn rompath, IT HAS NEVER GOT POST THE 'LAUCHING' SCREEN TO GET TO SURREAL (ive never even seen the damn surreal screen )i have an Xecuter 2.2 with Evox 1.8.xxxx bios. can someone please help me? i'll be forever appreciate |
evox 1.8.xxx is a dashboard. What bios are you using?
What are your settings in your ini? Where is your media path located, and your rompath, and where is the actual files on your xbox?
Post by: Iriez on February 08, 2004, 05:11:00 PM
| QUOTE (BaDHaBiTt @ Feb 8 2004, 06:44 PM) |
| The reason I wrote this is because no matter how I burn the DVD with roms AND surreal64 on it, the roms are nowhere to be found. Now I simply don't give a fuck anymore.... |
I have yet to come across a single user who has not been able to successfully find his roms. Whether from dvd or HD. Reading the first post in this thread, following its instructions exactly, combined with properly creating and burning a disc, there is simply no room for errors.
The point of the way the roms work is so that surreal only see's validated roms. Browsers are ugly =p Its nice to see a goodname.
Post by: devlkore on February 09, 2004, 05:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (freakdave @ Feb 5 2004, 04:01 PM) | ||
the 'main' controller config on the left of the screen does NOT work, however the controller config for each specific rom DOES work (not talking about the A is X button bug though) |
Thank you so much for that little, but very helpful bit of info.
Post by: BaDHaBiTt on February 09, 2004, 06:22:00 AM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Feb 9 2004, 01:35 AM) | ||
I have yet to come across a single user who has not been able to successfully find his roms. Whether from dvd or HD. Reading the first post in this thread, following its instructions exactly, combined with properly creating and burning a disc, there is simply no room for errors. The point of the way the roms work is so that surreal only see's validated roms. Browsers are ugly =p Its nice to see a goodname. |
Well... I read the post. I put the roms in a Roms dir. I put surreal on the DVD together with the Roms dir. I burned it. It started. But no roms.....
And if you read the posts in this thread you will find a lot of users who can't find the roms. But I don't really care anymore.... I'm happy for all those who got it to work.
Post by: Iriez on February 09, 2004, 02:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (BaDHaBiTt @ Feb 9 2004, 08:46 AM) |
| Well... I read the post. I put the roms in a Roms dir. I put surreal on the DVD together with the Roms dir. I burned it. It started. But no roms..... And if you read the posts in this thread you will find a lot of users who can't find the roms. But I don't really care anymore.... I'm happy for all those who got it to work. |
Yes, and you've still not posted your settings to me. Give me your exact ini setup, and your exact directory setup for how you are burning the disc, and how you are imaging and burning the disc.
Post by: thefatness on February 09, 2004, 03:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Feb 8 2004, 09:29 PM) | ||
evox 1.8.xxx is a dashboard. What bios are you using? What are your settings in your ini? Where is your media path located, and your rompath, and where is the actual files on your xbox? |
thats a dashboard? wow, i know alot less than i thought i did
i guess i have no idea what bios i have since i didnt flash it myself ok, im trying to load the Roms from a DVD.
Rompath=D:\Roms\
Media=D:\Media\
Post by: Iriez on February 09, 2004, 05:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (thefatness @ Feb 9 2004, 05:44 PM) |
| thats a dashboard? wow, i know alot less than i thought i did i guess i have no idea what bios i have since i didnt flash it myself ok, im trying to load the Roms from a DVD. Rompath=D:\Roms\ Media=D:\Media\ |
How is your files/directories strucutured on your disc? Is default.xbe and the Roms folder on the root directory of the disc?
How did you image/burn this?
Post by: AlienTiger on February 10, 2004, 02:13:00 AM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Jan 7 2004, 04:15 PM) |
| /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini <-- That is the path to it. Simply edit that file right there to reflect the directory of your roms, and then launch the emu and hit the 'refresh' button in the lower right hand corner. |
Thank you this was my trouble, I just had to delete this dir and everything worked /w my edited ini
Post by: dank42 on February 13, 2004, 10:42:00 AM
when i run quest 64 it runs fine
but games like zelda 1&2 supa smash bros and a couple others try to load but eventually freeze up after playin bg music for a lil bit
the music also gets sluggish when i try to load a state
Post by: Iriez on February 13, 2004, 03:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (dank42 @ Feb 13 2004, 01:06 PM) |
| why on some games do the savestates not work when i run quest 64 it runs fine but games like zelda 1&2 supa smash bros and a couple others try to load but eventually freeze up after playin bg music for a lil bit the music also gets sluggish when i try to load a state |
dank42: You apparently have not read the first post nor my repeated warnings that this is a thread to help with getting surreal running, and NOT game issues. This is why i deleted your previous posts.
Stop posting in this thread.
Post by: tabasco1031 on February 13, 2004, 09:19:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on February 14, 2004, 07:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (tabasco1031 @ Feb 13 2004, 11:43 PM) |
| Ok Iriez I have done everything u said I have an xbox v 1.5 and i have the latest xectuer bios and the xecuter2.3b lite plus and slayers evox...and surreal still gets stuck at the loading screen...just to make sure how big are the xbe files suppose to be...around 6 hundred something kb's right Well i dont know what to do its still not working and i setup the ini files exactly like u said |
You need to tell me specifically what you tried...and i mean everything. What is your install path, what bios are you running, what are your paths in your surreal.ini etc etc.
Post by: tabasco1031 on February 14, 2004, 07:32:00 AM
The install paths in surreal.ini are E:\Media and E:\Roms
I'm running the 4980 bios
Post by: Iriez on February 14, 2004, 11:14:00 AM
That doesnt make any sense. Never change the media path. You need to change /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini to reflect D:\media
Are your N64 roms in E:\Roms ?
Post by: tabasco1031 on February 14, 2004, 11:57:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on February 14, 2004, 06:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (tabasco1031 @ Feb 14 2004, 02:21 PM) |
| yeah thats where the roms are to cause I put everything on the HD D: is the dvd drive |
You did not read the first post.
Read it again in its entire form. D:\ Is *NOT* the dvd-rom drive once surreal is lauched. Had you read the first post you would have noted this.
Post by: tabasco1031 on February 14, 2004, 07:24:00 PM
Post by: shuhead on February 14, 2004, 08:20:00 PM
Post by: freakdave on February 15, 2004, 09:13:00 AM
| QUOTE (shuhead @ Feb 15 2004, 05:44 AM) |
| ok i tried setting up surreal on my xbox, i have an xecuter 2.3b lite+, xecuter bios 4981.06, and EvoX 3935. When i try to load surreal it hangs on the evox loading screen. I read the first post, tried patching with xbepatch and dexbepatch and i still get the same thing. Any suggestions please would be helpful |
make sure the time/date settings in your ms-dash are correct...
Post by: stx103 on February 15, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
TIA
I have tried everything to get this thing working, I have read the first post properly and still I cannot get the roms to show up.
Please Help.
Post by: Iriez on February 15, 2004, 03:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (stx103 @ Feb 15 2004, 03:31 PM) |
| Has anyone got Surreal to work when the emulator AND the Roms are on the same disk. If so could you please post the contents of the .ini file and the .ini file on the xbox. |
If both are on a disc then simply leave it d:\roms and d:\media
If it cannot read them, then your initial ini was incorrect and you need to edit it in tdata, or you did not structure the disc correctly.
| QUOTE |
| ok i tried setting up surreal on my xbox, i have an xecuter 2.3b lite+, xecuter bios 4981.06, and EvoX 3935. When i try to load surreal it hangs on the evox loading screen. I read the first post, tried patching with xbepatch and dexbepatch and i still get the same thing. Any suggestions please would be helpful |
Only X1 and non upgradable/exploit boxes need to patch. Your bios is fine. If you are getting a black screen then your surreal.ini media path is set incorrectly or you are missing files.
| QUOTE |
| Ok my bad i got it going now but when i load up the roms it goes to 0% and nothing happens and the roms have been verified. |
Click the refresh button. Are they still there?
Post by: tabasco1031 on February 15, 2004, 07:53:00 PM
Post by: freakycody on February 15, 2004, 08:26:00 PM
Post by: DickE on February 16, 2004, 03:28:00 AM
The way you fix it is to make a copy of the diddy kong pic, and rename it whatever the CRC1 value is. For "Diddy Kong Racing CRACKED" it is: D5295672.jpg
To find the CRC1 value open up your surreal.ini in E\TDATA\a64fea77\ go to the bottom and you will find a entry like:
[D5295672-9CB57015-C:45]
Game Name=Diddy Kong CRACKED
Alternate Title=Diddy Kong CRACKED
Comments=
Preferred Emulator=0
If you have a different version the number will be different:
[????????-9CB57015-C:45] The ??? part is the CRC1 value.
Post by: freakycody on February 16, 2004, 04:40:00 PM
Post by: freakdave on February 16, 2004, 11:35:00 PM
| QUOTE (DickE @ Feb 16 2004, 12:52 PM) |
| You probally have a different version of diddy kong, like i did. I had the cracked version. The way you fix it is to make a copy of the diddy kong pic, and rename it whatever the CRC1 value is. For "Diddy Kong Racing CRACKED" it is: D5295672.jpg To find the CRC1 value open up your surreal.ini in E\TDATA\a64fea77\ go to the bottom and you will find a entry like: [D5295672-9CB57015-C:45] Game Name=Diddy Kong CRACKED Alternate Title=Diddy Kong CRACKED Comments= Preferred Emulator=0 If you have a different version the number will be different: [????????-9CB57015-C:45] The ??? part is the CRC1 value. |
...or patch it with the appropriate IPS patch.That should also do the trick ;-)
Post by: Iriez on February 17, 2004, 06:47:00 AM
| QUOTE (tabasco1031 @ Feb 15 2004, 10:17 PM) |
| Yes when i hit refresh they are still there |
Strange problem....not sure i have the solution for you. My advice would be to wipe everything including the save, make sure you have enough free space in your temp cache drives (it shouldnt matter, but who knows) and try it again.
Post by: Lovin It! on February 18, 2004, 05:47:00 AM
is this possible?
I'm sure it is, can someone please help me out, I searched ( I'll admit just a lil ) but I did search.
slow ass puter, much easier to just ask and come back later...u guys are sooo nice
any help would be greatly appreciated
thx in advance
Post by: Lovin It! on February 18, 2004, 06:23:00 AM
nevermind, I figured it out.
all ya gotta do is transfer the folder E:\TDATA\a64fea57
from one xbox to the other...
usually in an xbox game, the saves are in the UDATA folder, but I guess because all the configurations for your ROMS, like fav's and settings, and saved games (and states) for ALL THE ROMS are all stored within the emulators settings, therefor they are all in the TDATA folder.
wow, I answer my own questions alot anymore...
and I did search and found nothing,
am I the only one who wouldve liked to know how to do this? lol
I need a life
Post by: thelonius on February 19, 2004, 09:39:00 PM
THELONIUS
Post by: Iriez on February 19, 2004, 10:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (thelonius @ Feb 20 2004, 12:03 AM) |
| IS THERE A PLACE ON LINE THAT CAN INSTALL EMULATORS INTO MY XBOX? THELONIUS |
You have picked quite possibly the most wrong place, combined with the most annoying way possible, to ask a question.
Lose the caps, read the pinned topics, and learn WHERE to post relevent material. Next retarded post = U BANNA.
Post by: A@ron on February 20, 2004, 11:33:00 PM
A@ron
Post by: Iriez on February 21, 2004, 10:21:00 AM
Post by: A@ron on February 21, 2004, 08:23:00 PM
I do not understand what they do exactly but I have messed around increasing them. I was just wondering if there was an optimal setting for 128 MB xboxes (or if anyone found one).A@ron
Post by: Iriez on February 22, 2004, 01:54:00 PM
Just give each setting a extra 10-15 megs and you'll probably see the maximum results possible.
Post by: topfinder on February 23, 2004, 08:18:00 PM
Xbox=v1.0
Chip=Matrix
Dashboard=EvolutionX beta 1.8.3285
Bios=EvoxM7_ef
I have installed all files to E:/Apps/Surreal64.
I have changed the rom path in the Surreal.ini to E:\Apps\Surreal64\Roms
I used to have the Surreal.ini in the a64fea57 folder (within the E:\UDATA folder), but I deleted the entire a64fea57 folder earlier tonight when I decided to delete all Surreal64 files and folders to start from scratch. Upon reinstall of all files to the Surreal64 folder and execution of the emulator, the a64fea57 folder was recreated(?), but the contents are now only TitleImage.xbx and TitleMeta.xbx files. I hope my assumption that the a64fea57 folder is only related to (and created by) the Surreal64 emulator is correct
. Other bad news includes my discovery that my pristine C: and E: backups are nowhere to be found on my PC .I have patched all four XBE files. I first tried deXBE; that did not work, then I tried XBEpatch and got the same results (100% load ~black screen).
I have two roms (Goldeneye & Mario Tennis). I have verified the roms using GoodN64. The filenames are:
GoldenEye 007 (U) [o1].v64
Mario Tennis (J) [!].v64
The clock is correctly set. Ummm anything else I'm forgetting? If so, please let me know...
Anyone have a suggestion? Props to Iriez for all his time and effort helping others get theirs up and running and grats to those who have. Special TY to all the people who developed these emulators
Post by: Iriez on February 24, 2004, 10:39:00 AM
I have not used the japanese version of mario tennis so im unsure of whether it works.
As long as you refresh your romlist and the roms are still there, then your path's are set correctly.
Your goldeneye is a overdump. You need to obtain the 12mb (U) [!] version. Use UltraHLE to run the correct goldeneye rom, and 1964/Pj64 to run mario tennis (U) or (E)
Also, turn IGR off.
Once you have done all this, it *should* work as expected. If it doesnt, im unsure of what exactly is going on.
Post by: topfinder on February 24, 2004, 12:20:00 PM
I will try your suggestions tonight and report back later!
Jeff
Post by: morpheus2n on February 24, 2004, 06:07:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on February 25, 2004, 06:43:00 AM
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Post by: acid8x on February 26, 2004, 03:06:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on February 26, 2004, 12:37:00 PM
Next time do not post in a thread unless you have read the first post.
Post by: xbonz00889 on March 06, 2004, 01:01:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Firstly, are you having problems loading the emulator? Does it freeze on loading/black screen? Check these things.. Are you running a 4977 bios? (One thats been patched for lba48) Or 4978? Both are known to cause issues - Reflash with a evox bios, or 4976.06 or 4979.06/67 + Do you have all the correct files and folders on your xbox? (most specifically the media directory, default.xbe and surreal.ini) Are you using a old modchip such as xecuter 1, or enigmah/xtender? - Try patching first (all your xbe files)with dexbe to retail, and if that doesnt work your going to need to use Phoenix Bios Loader (PBL) to boot another bios into memory before launching. This will not go into support for using PBL. Please use at your own descretion. People who cannot get it to load by patching with dexbe should also try xbe patcher |
This is my problem. i got surreal 64 and the other emulators from a place and i unzipped and put them on the box. I go to open up Surreal and it freezes. I have all the files on there. I have all the files from the download on the xbox. I go to Box Explorer and i go to open and it comes up. and freeses. Same with the other Emulators in the download of surreal 64. What is the problem?
Post by: Iriez on March 07, 2004, 11:54:00 AM
| QUOTE (xbonz00889 @ Mar 6 2004, 03:25 PM) |
| Same with the other Emulators in the download of surreal 64. What is the problem? |
So this is a global issue?
Have you tried any of the resolutions outlined in the first post? If you have, please state what you have tried.
If you have not, then you need to re-read the first post and try some of the options.
Post by: xbonz00889 on March 07, 2004, 08:15:00 PM
what could the problem be do u think. all my other emulators work exept surreal. Help me Note im useing a Xecuter 2.2 Pro m7 bios and 3921 dashboard althoug i also did try avalaunch. I didnt do anything with with like .xbe or somin since i dont know if i should. From above are those the correct steps or am i missing somethings csue iim still getting a freeze on the boot. When it freezes in avalaunch i get Loading....... and mushroom dude there. But dont load i have gave it 5 mins to load to.
Post by: AlienTiger on March 07, 2004, 10:39:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on March 08, 2004, 02:55:00 PM
Find it and paste to me what your Media Path= is.
Then tell me what your installation path is. Those two should reflect each others location in order for surreal64 to boot. Its best to leave it at D:\Media
Post by: reerunn on March 08, 2004, 08:36:00 PM
Post by: reerunn on March 09, 2004, 05:47:00 AM
I have been able to run NeoGenesis, FCEUltra, and XSnes9x with no problems straight from a CD-RW. When I tried with Surreal64, I am able to load the emulator, but no ROMS show up. I have tried everything. I update my surreal.ini file to map to D:/Roms/, then I tried D:/ and lastly I tried A:/Roms and using the techinques described in the first post. Has anyone been able to run the emulator and ROMS off the same disc? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Post by: xbonz00889 on March 10, 2004, 04:55:00 PM
Rom Path=e:\games\Nintendo 64\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
Default Controller Config=00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0
A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,
16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17
Default 1964 Dyna Mem=8
Default 1964 Paging Mem=4
Default PJ64 Dyna Mem=16
Default PJ64 Paging Mem=4
Default Use LLE RSP=0
Default Use Basic Audio=0
Default Max Video Mem=4
Post by: reerunn on March 10, 2004, 06:49:00 PM
Post by: toykilla on March 14, 2004, 09:50:00 AM
a blank screen comes up when i try running the rom
Post by: Iriez on March 14, 2004, 04:40:00 PM
Post by: moondro on March 14, 2004, 11:54:00 PM
I am doing a softmod audio exploit, and am trying to launch the Program from XBMC. I have patched all the xbe's with XBEdumper with the -audio. When I try to load it it just goes to a black screen, I have never seen the UI or antying load from the Surreal program.
Well I have looked through every page on the pinned Surreal Help, so I now posted here. I did not see anything about people getting it to work with audio exploit or what patcher they used. I have used only Xbedumper (the name is something like this) and this has worked before on all the things I have tried. I did see things like Patching with XBEPatcher and DEpatcher but I assume this is if you have a modchip right? I have patched it with that with error screen coming up so I'm sure I have to use another patcher. Also, I tried briefly to use PBL to Load another bios I guess? PBL didn't load either, is this the way to go for me? I don't have one of the bios where The sticky said that had issues.
Xbox Specs
-kernel 3944
-Dash 4920
-Evox -3921
-using Audio exploit
I am trying to burn the Surreal to a cdrw so I put the ini as
-D:\Roms
-D:\Media
Which I'm pretty sure is correct
And I am trying to load the XBE's Through the MY Files explorer menu on XBMC
-I am going to try some more things to get this to work, but any help you can give me would be great to help me along with this.
If you need me to post anything else please tell me.
Once again sorry for posting this I just cannot find this problem anywhere.
Post by: jcain87 on March 18, 2004, 05:46:00 PM
ahhh ok. I've downloaded surreal64, and it does not load up at all. So next I tried all kinds of bios's on my X2.2 and with no luck. I tried the EvoX M7, and all of the most recent X-ecuter bios. Since that didn't work I tried patching with xbepatch. I've also reinstalled the whole thing. Nothing! AH! I have set the rom path though I dont see what good its going to do if I cant even load the program. Help please. Thank You
Here are my specs:
X2.2 Lite
Xbox v1.0
included HD
BIOS I have used:
4977
4980.67
4980.06
4981.67
4981.06
M7
Post by: crazchris on March 21, 2004, 02:03:00 PM
I tried reinstalling it by deleting it and reuploading it. I also deleted all my saves. Recently i've just been installing games and also the new version of XBMC. I'm not sure how those could affect it but apparently it has.
Anyone ever have this problem before? or have any idea how to fix it??
Thx
Post by: Modzilla on March 26, 2004, 04:34:00 PM
I get the dreded black screen on all four roms I've tried to run. I'm using xecuter-2 4981.06 bios w/ an xbit. I've installed fresh. Black screen. Patched w/ both progs. Dexbe patched to retail wouldn't even boot surreal. xbepatch didn't relieve my black plaugue. Yes patched ALL four .xbe files. If i've missed a solution please forgive me.
Post by: *G* on March 27, 2004, 07:36:00 AM
Here's my path...
In Surreal64.ini
F:\Roms\
D:\Media\
On the Xbox....
/F/Emulators/Surreal64/Roms/
Is this correct....do the roms go in the Surreal folder or somewhere else?
Post by: Iriez on March 27, 2004, 08:11:00 AM
| QUOTE (*ЮåGôÑ* @ Mar 27 2004, 10:00 AM) |
| Here's my path... In Surreal64.ini F:\Roms\ On the Xbox.... /F/Emulators/Surreal64/Roms/ |
Now, cant you determine your problem yourself? It seems rather quite self explanitory to me.
You obviously have a incorrect path set.
If you are leaving the roms in the 'Roms' folder within the surreal install, then you may leave the ini to D:\roms , if you put it anywhere else, you must specify the exact path in the ini within your TDATA folder if you have already ran surreal.
Post by: bigchief69 on March 29, 2004, 05:56:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on March 30, 2004, 08:54:00 PM
I have however never pressed it on accident. Perhaps i am playing games that dont require certian movements that do it.
Post by: jacobesterque on March 31, 2004, 11:01:00 AM
question one: i am going to use the default roms folder that is supplied with surreal. currently i do not have any roms in the folder. does it matter that there are currently no roms in the folder?
question two: even though i am using the default roms folder pathname provided with surreal, i changed the .ini to the following roms path: f:\emulators\surreal64\roms. even though, technically, the path is going to the same place as d:\roms, would it mess it up? should i go head and leave the roms path as d:\roms? just as it says in the surreal64.nfo file provided with surreal?
arrrrrrrrrr
Post by: j0siah on March 31, 2004, 06:31:00 PM
I get Surreal 64 running fine.
It finds my roms fine.
When I try and launch a rom -> Black Screen. No matter the rom.
I loaded the stand alone UltraXLE seperately and it likes my rom files fine.
I don't know what the difference is and I can't find anything in any of the ini's to shed light. I've deleted all the Surreal 64 files and even the "a64..." directory from the TDATA directory. If there's a known issue that sounds like my problem and someone can shed light, that would be wonderful. I like the concept of Surreal better and would prefer to return to it.
>>>Josiah
Post by: bigchief69 on March 31, 2004, 07:54:00 PM
Post by: A@ron on March 31, 2004, 08:05:00 PM
A@ron
Post by: xfiendx on April 01, 2004, 07:57:00 PM
Please someone help.
Please.
Post by: Iriez on April 02, 2004, 10:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (jacobesterque @ Mar 31 2004, 01:25 PM) |
| question one: i am going to use the default roms folder that is supplied with surreal. currently i do not have any roms in the folder. does it matter that there are currently no roms in the folder? question two: even though i am using the default roms folder pathname provided with surreal, i changed the .ini to the following roms path: f:\emulators\surreal64\roms. even though, technically, the path is going to the same place as d:\roms, would it mess it up? should i go head and leave the roms path as d:\roms? just as it says in the surreal64.nfo file provided with surreal? arrrrrrrrrr |
To one: No, it doesnt matter.
To two: it really doesnt matter, but for saftey's sake, you should always leave it as d:\roms if you are using the default roms folder, as it leaves less room for error.
Either way, both of those wont affect surreal's ability to load. Having a incorrect media path/missing files will cause a black screen, or using exploits/old xecuter1 style modchips without properly patching.
For all of those who are having issues with a black screen, the above lists all the possible causes. Have you verified you have all the files? Are you using a recent bios, or have you patched in accordance to your situation? Is your .ini file setup correctly, and if you have already tried to launch surreal, is it setup correctly in the TDATA folder as explained in the first post?
Post by: Iriez on April 02, 2004, 10:32:00 AM
| QUOTE (j0siah @ Mar 31 2004, 08:55 PM) |
| I'm a little blurry eyed. I just read through 17 pages and either totally missed someone answering my problem or it wasn't addressed. I get Surreal 64 running fine. It finds my roms fine. When I try and launch a rom -> Black Screen. No matter the rom. I loaded the stand alone UltraXLE seperately and it likes my rom files fine. |
Are you using a current modchip, or are you having to patch for exploit usage? It almost sounds like you patched the default.xbe, but not the other xbe's. Are you a NTSC or a PAL 50/60 user?
Since ultraxle launches them fine, i doubt its the rom.
Post by: Iriez on April 02, 2004, 10:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (bigchief69 @ Mar 31 2004, 10:18 PM) |
| i have the same problem... it seems that ultra on surreal doesnt work for most roms... guess if u wanna use surreal, ur stuck with 1964 and progect 64... |
Uh, same problem as who? UltraHLE only supports a handful of games. Have you even bothered to read the compatibility lists?
Post by: Iriez on April 02, 2004, 10:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (xfiendx @ Apr 1 2004, 10:21 PM) |
| Okay, here's my problem. I installed surreal64 and it worked fine, but I had the .ini file wrong. so it couldn't find any roms. I read the first post on here, not all the way (like an idiot), and I accidently erased the surreal.ini in the tdata folder. I tried to replace it, but it's no good. I erased everything, and tried to put it back on, but it just gets stuck on the "EVOLUTION X" screen. |
If it loaded before fine, and it doesnt now, then you need to check 2 things. One - Look in your memory tab on the MS dashboard and see if a save for surreal exists...if so, delete it.
Two, do you have all the files on your xbox?
When surreal loads it takes the Surreal.ini from its installation dir, and moves it to the TDATA folder, so if you deleted that all you have to do is run it again and it will automatically move it over.
Post by: xfiendx on April 03, 2004, 09:38:00 AM
I did that, erased it, and still had the same problem.
Two, do you have all the files on your xbox?
I have all the same files I used the first time, when it worked okay. I have one .rar of source code, and anther .rar of .xbe files
I just erased my entire E: drive and replaced it with the backup right after I modded and it's STILL giving me the same error. Does it save anything on C I need to get rid of??
All other emu's work fine, it's just this guy that's giving me a problem.
Post by: xfiendx on April 03, 2004, 10:09:00 AM
I'm gonna cry.
Post by: Iriez on April 03, 2004, 07:24:00 PM
You should have the following files
1964.ini
1964.xbe
default.xbe
pj64.xbe
Project64X.rdb
RiceDaedalus5.1.0.ini
Surreal.ini
ultra.ini
UltraHLE.xbe
Then a 'media' directory.
The media directory should contain a 'boxart' and 'ui' folder, with a arial.ttf file.
Post by: Buggerlugs on April 04, 2004, 06:00:00 AM
Am I right in saying...If I want to create a bootable dvdr with surreal64 on and roms to play directly from the disc I do the following?
Download and unpack surreal64 to a folder on my pc's harddisk. Make sure the surreal.ini is set to D:roms and then add roms the rom folder.
Create a XISO with all the files/folder and roms and burn it to dvdr. It will then boot automatically to Surreal64 when inserted in my xbox by using the default.xbe on the dvdr?
Or is this too simple?
Post by: xfiendx on April 04, 2004, 11:40:00 AM
Post by: computerguru79 on April 05, 2004, 10:12:00 AM
Post by: computerguru79 on April 05, 2004, 01:19:00 PM
D:\Roms, A:\Roms - that way i could play it off a cd-rw/dvd-r/dvd-rw if i ever wanted to later as well as my hd. I added a folder "Roms" in my Surreal directory and put some roms in there that i previously ran through GoodN64 checker. when i hit the refresh button i get nothing my Roms are in .zip format i even extracted them and reuploaded them and it still doesn't detect it. I am stumped i have tried deleting the save file on the msdash hd and still nothing i have no clue what's wrong they just don't want to show up I have 120 of them and have tried about 15 of them and none of them show up. i have even deleted the surreal folder and tryed it again from stratch. nothing. any help would be much oblidged.
Post by: computerguru79 on April 05, 2004, 05:02:00 PM
D:\Roms\, A:\Roms\ (apperently you can't boot from two seperate drives or maybe you can and that is just not the right format) I just put A:\Roms and booted off the disk although booting off disk gave me some trouble i have eliminated the problems for the most part, here's some tips that helped me when i was trying to boot off the disk:
1. reload the cd/cd-rw/dvd-r/dvd-rw everytime you start the program mine made me do it everytime the rom would start up clear the game cache and kick me back to the screen, so i would suggest puting the disk in a refreshing everytime.
2. make sure to have show items in a list checked instead of boxart i don't know about yall but when i have boxart checked it takes longer and most of the time freezes up on me so check off list instead then you can switch to boxart once the games start to show.
3. if you hit the refresh button and nothing happens, but you hear your disk still spinning hit it again and again till it finally picks it up mine doesn't pick it up till sometimes after 3 of four tries, but it eventually should.
4. check the compatibility lists! some games don't play in but one specific player make sure you find out what it is, & other games need precise settings to play accurately like more ram different sound player, etc...
5. enjoy the games you burn and thank people for helping you (that really has nothing to do with anything, but i thought it would be nice to add, Lol)
good luckPost by: Iriez on April 05, 2004, 06:35:00 PM
Post by: jacobesterque on April 06, 2004, 08:57:00 AM
| QUOTE | ||||
|
just so everyone know, i went ahead and changed my roms path the the default d:\roms like it says in the nfo file. everything now works.
so apparently, if you try to to set the path to a very specific place (i.e.: f:\emulators\surreal64\roms or f:\roms\n64) instead of the default d:\roms, it wont work, or at least it wont probably work. if you are going to have your roms on the harddrive, it will probably be best to put it in a roms folder in the main surreal 64 folder AND set the roms folder path as d:\roms.
if someone can prove me wrong, the better.
Post by: seedybrick on April 06, 2004, 07:58:00 PM
i posted a related topic in the emu forum as i'm sure you see - please trust i've read this whole damn thread twice and i'm still not knowing what to do!
any help you could give would be much appreciated
Post by: slyguy0271 on April 08, 2004, 04:29:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on April 08, 2004, 10:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (slyguy0271 @ Apr 8 2004, 05:53 PM) |
| I can't get roms to load with UltraHLE, But they load with the other ones fine. The screen goes black only with UltraHLE. Evox M7 BIOS on an xecuter 2.3b pro chip. |
That would be because UltraHLE only supports a handful of games, and you didnt bother to read this thread or the compatibility lists = )
Post by: kiddstyle on April 09, 2004, 10:04:00 AM
Post by: Regulus on April 09, 2004, 12:28:00 PM
Post by: seedybrick on April 09, 2004, 02:44:00 PM
Post by: Tenchi_Washu on April 09, 2004, 04:16:00 PM
~Tenchi_Washu~
Post by: slyguy0271 on April 09, 2004, 04:51:00 PM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Apr 9 2004, 06:25 AM) |
| That would be because UltraHLE only supports a handful of games, and you didnt bother to read this thread or the compatibility lists = ) |
I did bother reading the compatibility list. I was testing with Super Mario 64.
"UltraHLE, Works with no major glitches or texture problems. " Anyone else?
Post by: thetinbandit on April 09, 2004, 11:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (slyguy0271 @ Apr 10 2004, 01:15 AM) |
| I did bother reading the compatibility list. I was testing with Super Mario 64. "UltraHLE, Works with no major glitches or texture problems. " Anyone else? |
I have the exact same problem, I wonder what the deal is since I'm trying to get goldeneye to work and it's supposed to work perfectly with ultrahle
Post by: whozyodaddy on April 10, 2004, 12:21:00 PM
Post by: Kolk1604 on April 10, 2004, 03:46:00 PM
| QUOTE (whozyodaddy @ Apr 10 2004, 08:45 PM) |
| whenever I launch ANY game.... it loads (shows percentages) then all of a sudden black screen! |
Then it's not compatable.
Post by: whozyodaddy on April 10, 2004, 07:10:00 PM
Post by: Tenchi_Washu on April 10, 2004, 08:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (Tenchi_Washu @ Apr 10 2004, 12:40 AM) |
| Hello, new to N64 emulation, I just FTP'ed Surreal to my Xbox and set the .ini and all that good stuff....but when I load a rom all I get a black screen and I waited for like 30 mins tinking it was loading....yes i know, a little too long, but wanted to be sure. I'm now on hour 10 of messing around with the settings of the various emulators it comes with. Can any help or give some suggestions? Any help is appreciated. The roms i'm trying to load is Star Fox and Zelda: Ocarina of Time if that helps. I've tried my roms in PJ64-X and they work in there (give or take a few textures). And I've read the post a few poasts back with someone having the same problem...it still doesn't work. I'm using X2 bios, I'm not sure if I need to patch it, but from what I read, it's no since it's a newer bio. ~Tenchi_Washu~ |
And I checked the complatablitiy list...it is compatable with no major glitches.....I may be new to N64 emulation, but not moding xboxes, so I'm not completely stupid on the subject....
Post by: Regulus on April 10, 2004, 09:46:00 PM
| QUOTE (whozyodaddy @ Apr 11 2004, 03:47 AM) |
| Hmm, not compatible meaning not a valid N64 rom? Not true... It works on my old xbox N64 emulator and also on my PC N64 emulator. Somebody help, please. Thanks. EDIT: Sorry, double post. Can Mods or Admin delete? Thanks. |
flash your bios to the newest X2, and reinstall Surreal64 1.0 (not the hacked version). Don't screw with the ini file at all... everything should work just fine, it did for me
HTH
Post by: whozyodaddy on April 11, 2004, 02:11:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on April 12, 2004, 08:22:00 PM
| QUOTE (whozyodaddy @ Apr 11 2004, 03:35 PM) |
| Regulus, I flashed my bios to the latest version, and when I re-install It, and don't mess with the ini, then it will think my roms are in a CD drive. But they are on the HD. So I have to edit the ini... |
The reason you are under this misunderstanding is because you simply have not read this thread.
Re-read it for your own clarification, as im honestly not sure how many times i've explained exactly what D:\Roms means.
Post by: ultimaweapon on April 13, 2004, 04:42:00 PM
thanx
Post by: Iriez on April 13, 2004, 05:57:00 PM
Somewhere along the way you apparently messed with something. It is most likely either your configuration or the actual files. Verify your Surreal.ini has the correct paths and that you have all the neccessary files.
Post by: incansun on April 13, 2004, 07:28:00 PM
After many initial failed attempts, I came to the conclusion, that there were two main problems as to why it was not working correctly. First, Surreal 64 could not find my Roms. This was my fault as I mistakenly mistyped the path of my roms. At first glance, it looked ok, but I was missing a space between the word "Surreal" and "64" obviously, this minor mistake would not let me load my roms. After painstaking hours of troubleshooting, I was finally able to load my roms after figuring out this tiny oversight. The path for my roms was finally corrected to F:\Apps\Emulators\Surreal 64\Roms\. After hours of scratching my head I was able to load my 20 roms that I had just downloaded perfectly. However, I was not able to play them...
The second mistake that I made was that I downloaded the wrong version of Surreal 64 for my XBOX. Apparently, there are two versions of Surreal 64 found on XBINS. The version that I originally downloaded was named Surreal64-5530k-GueuxNet. Which I believe is the "hacked" version. Well, this version gave me the common error of having my roms load directly to that black screen then freeze. I noticed a lot of people having this same exact problem throughout this thread. I downloaded Surreal64_V1.0 and FTP'd this version to my XBOX and VOILA, it WORKED! So, I just wanted to share my experience with everyone, in case anyone is having similar issues with getting Surreal 64 to work. I hope this helps... By the way, This is an awesome EMU.. I want to thank everyone who worked so hard so that we can have some fun.
My system is xbox version 1.3
TSOP flash with X2 4980- I upgraded the bios from 4977 NO LBA
EVOX 3921
120 GB
Post by: CheULT on April 16, 2004, 12:53:00 PM
Post by: The Leech on April 16, 2004, 05:46:00 PM
Thanks,
The Leech
Post by: Luciferhawke on April 17, 2004, 09:50:00 AM
every time someone asked that question the only response was read the first post, which didnt help.
Post by: GaijinPunch on April 18, 2004, 12:45:00 AM
BTW - I posted this in the compatibility thread, as there was someone there that corrected me on an issue I posted, so I asked him there as well. Don't hate me.
Post by: dman7 on April 20, 2004, 10:53:00 PM
Xbox: 1.4/64 mb or ram
SmartXX chip
Dashboard MXM
Ok, I am haveing trouble with the memory settings. I tried to read all the posts to find the same problem, but did not. So, if it's there and I missed it....sorry
This is the problem, when I am trying to play Smash Brothers with 1964 and Project 64 and there is alot of lagging in the game. I did a debug check and it is because of low memory. So, I upped all the memory settings. If I max out the memory settings, the game will not load on ethier of these emulators, instead it will just freeze upon loading. If I bring up the memory settings somewhat the game still lags and starts to act buggy. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
-dman
Post by: Iriez on April 21, 2004, 09:41:00 PM
Post by: Helios on April 22, 2004, 09:06:00 PM
Thanks in advance
Post by: Mr. Chips on April 23, 2004, 01:23:00 PM
Then you will find the team hasnt planned on fixing this small problem, nor adding support for 128mb of ram in 1964.
The next release (judging by what they have said) will come once the 1964 0.99 sources are released. Of course, this may never happen this year even. So look for surreal 1.0b to be released in 2007 with Longhorn.
Post by: Iriez on April 24, 2004, 10:21:00 PM
Post by: jacobesterque on April 25, 2004, 10:45:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Your Xbox can't recognize this disc. Make sure it's an Xbox game, DVD movie, or audio CD. Also check to see if the disc is dirty or damaged. Remove the disc to continue. |
i believe someone had made a fix (other than doing in-game-reset). if not, does someone know a way around this issue?
Post by: sleeman on April 27, 2004, 01:11:00 AM
Post by: Helios on April 27, 2004, 02:50:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on April 27, 2004, 08:58:00 AM
Helios: If its 12mb and has a (u) (!) then its the correct one.
Post by: sleeman on April 27, 2004, 04:39:00 PM
Post by: Ray2Kay on April 28, 2004, 09:00:00 AM
Hey Im have a very frustrating time right now with the surreal 64. i recently download it. and i had it on my xbox before but this one has 300 roms.......so I put it on my xbox and delete my other surreal 64........ now i cant see any of my roms nor refresh the list i did exactly what your tutorial said i tried every thing you said and still now roms......... i edited the surreal.ini files in my tdata and in the surreal folder......... please [email protected]
Post by: Ces2k3 on April 28, 2004, 03:29:00 PM
Post by: RunningRiot on April 28, 2004, 03:46:00 PM
I've got Surreal64 v 1.0 (not the hacked one).
I'm running on a v1 Xbox with an 12 GB WD HDD and an Xecuter2 modchip with the 4983.67(& .06) bios.
I'm launching from EvoX.
Surreal launches fine.
I can see all my roms.
I can load them.
When the loading completes, it freezes on a black screen.
ALL of my roms do this, and they work perfectly on PJ64 PC.
I tried patching to retail and surreal never launched after that so I patched back.
I flashed to 4979 just to check, and it didn't work then either.
Does anyone have ANY idea what my problem might be? I've seen this problem described in this thread, but I've tried all those solutions and nothing works.
Help?
Thanks in advance.
-RunningRiot
Post by: boxorox on April 29, 2004, 09:31:00 AM
| QUOTE (Ray2Kay @ Apr 28 2004, 10:24 AM) |
| Hey Im have a very frustrating time right now with the surreal 64. i recently download it. and i had it on my xbox before but this one has 300 roms.......so I put it on my xbox and delete my other surreal 64........ now i cant see any of my roms nor refresh the list i did exactly what your tutorial said i tried every thing you said and still now roms......... i edited the surreal.ini files in my tdata and in the surreal folder......... please [email protected] |
Ray, If you picked up the same one as I.....The roms are not in a folder. They must be in a folder. There may also be an extra zip file in there, mixed up with the roms. It would be another zip of Surreal. Delete that zip.
Good luck.
Post by: bob451052 on April 29, 2004, 06:19:00 PM
) so yes it "runs" but very poorly. now because it runs i guess that means that i did not need to patch it... but i would appreciate any help regarding improving performance so that i can actually play something without it crashing or constantly hanging even though there is 5 megs of mem available, with no sound. YES I HAVE READ MOST THREADS IN THIS, and i do understand that my request is rather frusterating, but i have all but lost hope on this "Surreal" app.
Post by: Iriez on April 29, 2004, 09:29:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| When the loading completes, it freezes on a black screen. ALL of my roms do this, and they work perfectly on PJ64 PC. |
Which roms? Have you verified with goodn64 and checked the compatibility thread to ensure they work? It sounds like everything's cool, but you are just loading a incompatible rom.
bob451052: If surreal is launching, and loading the roms, and the game is starting, then from that point everything has worked fine. Anything that comes down to incompatibility you should read the compatibility threads to get a better idea of what memory settings might be optimal for your game. If you have not hit over 20fps and have no sound, then you have obviously not played many games, or you are using alot of [h],
- or roms. Wipeout for example, runs at 300 + FPS, aswell as a slew of games over 50 fps with full sound.
So to make this long reply short...
read the compatiibly lists for game info. Thats why i pin threads here...so people will read them.
Post by: TeonHarasymiv on April 29, 2004, 10:35:00 PM
I have V1.0 of Surreal, and I have checked that my roms are OK using good64 and also by running them on PC emulators.
The problem is exactly as otheres have described - the loading screen gets to 100%, and then the xbox just hangs at a black screen. So clearly the problem is when Surreal tries to load the .xbe of the emu you are trying to run the game in - I just dont understand why it wont load.
Post by: shanizar on May 08, 2004, 01:29:00 PM
Post by: radio5 on May 11, 2004, 06:01:00 AM
Now I just need to get the frame-rates up on certain games, but for that I will go
to the COMPATIBILITY THREAD. (...hint,hint...)
Post by: Standardize on May 13, 2004, 05:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Jan 12 2004, 11:21 PM) |
| Set those paths in the /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini file, then re launch it and hit refresh on the romlist. |
This helped me out alot. I wasted three discs before following this advice and changing my surreal.ini in that folder. Good thing they were cd-rs.
Thanks
Post by: bigboy2k on May 13, 2004, 09:33:00 PM
I have been reading many forums to fix the problem but i can't figure it out. There are 300 roms and like i said 42 show up. PLZ help me.
Post by: Iriez on May 14, 2004, 07:48:00 AM
| QUOTE (bigboy2k @ May 13 2004, 11:33 PM) |
| i am new and i just downloaded SUREAL64 and burned it to a dvd. It loaded up fine but the problem i have is that not all the roms show up. Only about 42 roms show up. I have been reading many forums to fix the problem but i can't figure it out. There are 300 roms and like i said 42 show up. PLZ help me. |
The rest are either corrupt or are compressed in a non standard form. You need to run goodn64 on them. If goodn64 recognizes them, then you need to unzip them, and rezip them using standard compression via winzip/winrar.
Post by: bigboy2k on May 14, 2004, 10:21:00 AM
Post by: bigboy2k on May 14, 2004, 11:55:00 AM
Can someone plz help me to get these roms to work on my xbox. I am burning to a dvd. Thanks.
Post by: pablituu on May 14, 2004, 02:18:00 PM
it would be great it i knew...
reagards
Post by: GaijinPunch on May 14, 2004, 08:42:00 PM
Thanks
EDIT: Found 'em.
Post by: MThaG on May 21, 2004, 03:34:00 PM
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Post by: deadpool66 on May 24, 2004, 05:11:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on May 24, 2004, 09:45:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| * If your roms are on a DVD then use A:. eg. A:\ROMS\ * If your roms are on your xbox's hdd then use E:,F: or G:. eg. F:\ROMS\ * If your roms and emulator are on the DVD or the roms are in the path where you installed the emulator use D:. eg. D:\ROMS\ |
http://www.xbins.org...=xboxnfo738.nfo
Post by: deadpool66 on May 25, 2004, 03:44:00 PM
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Post by: Iriez on May 26, 2004, 10:21:00 PM
Post by: yeknom on May 27, 2004, 05:49:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on May 27, 2004, 08:40:00 AM
| QUOTE (madman962 @ May 27 2004, 12:43 AM) |
| The gueuxnet version. |
Thats your problem.
The Gueux version is *NOT* meant for normal mods. Its meant *only* for softmods on new kernels.
Im going to make a special note for people so they quit downloading that damn version.
Use 1.0
Post by: deadpool66 on May 27, 2004, 12:26:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on May 27, 2004, 08:08:00 PM
This is why you should use goodn64. It tells you which rom version you have.
If you have the 12mb version of the goldeneye (U) (!) rom, then it should play pretty decent.
deadpool66: You first need to know whether you have the original dash installed. Do you have the green dash with the Memory, Audio, settings and possibly the XBOX Live tabs ?
If you have that , go into memory, scroll down to the surreal save and delete it.
Post by: Iriez on May 29, 2004, 08:49:00 PM
| QUOTE (Tea_Tad @ May 29 2004, 06:15 PM) |
| I have gotten my roms to appear as I start Surreal. I click on one rom, lets say i choose Snowboard kids, and then i choose one of the 3 systems and it loads to 100% but then turns to black. It stays on this black screen as though it has frozen. What have i done wrong? |
Which version of surreal are you using? 1.0 or gueux.net version?
Post by: Wesly on May 30, 2004, 07:37:00 AM
I tried several times, but each time it won't find the roms when i put it on the C-Drive (while it works flawless on the E-Drive).
I'm Editing the ini file in the tdata dir aswell as the surreal dir.
Post by: Iriez on May 30, 2004, 09:33:00 AM
Wesly: After you edit the file are you refreshing the romlist? It should see stuff on the C fine, though why you would use that partition is beyond me =p
Post by: Iriez on May 31, 2004, 08:02:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on June 01, 2004, 07:12:00 PM
| QUOTE (Tea_Tad @ Jun 1 2004, 06:36 PM) |
| what bios am i running....im not sure. Is there a way i can check? soft modded? And thats.....? I use a mod chip is thats what your asking clock time at 200X?!!? I didn't even know you could make time go 200X. Im pretty sure its...um...normal |
Evox will tell you which bios your using in the settings screen.
Are you using a 160GB or larger HD?
Time? 200x = 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004. x = varible. Check it in your MS dash.
Post by: Iriez on June 03, 2004, 07:55:00 AM
Post by: Tea_Tad on June 04, 2004, 09:02:00 PM
Btw. What do you mean delete all the /E/tdata folder. There are alot of folders in there. Should i delete them all? Really don't want to loose anything
Post by: Iriez on June 05, 2004, 06:14:00 AM
Post by: Gonight on June 06, 2004, 03:01:00 PM
i use surreal 64 and i've a problem with the rom Zelda ocarina of time.
when i start the game to link house i've blue texture.when i push the start button.
bad texture too.
when i'm in the tree white texture...
i've try wiht many roms but its the same result.
anyone have the solution?
thx all
ps:sorry for my english
Post by: Mr. Chips on June 06, 2004, 06:32:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on June 07, 2004, 03:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gonight @ Jun 6 2004, 05:01 PM) |
| hi all! i use surreal 64 and i've a problem with the rom Zelda ocarina of time. when i start the game to link house i've blue texture.when i push the start button. bad texture too. when i'm in the tree white texture... i've try wiht many roms but its the same result. anyone have the solution? thx all ps:sorry for my english |
Read the surreal64 compatibility thread to determine the exact settings you need for this game. You must use the PJ RSP audio in order to get rid of some 'snow' effects. The pause menu will be garbled regardless.
Post by: debodapunk on June 07, 2004, 03:57:00 PM
Post by: Tea_Tad on June 07, 2004, 07:06:00 PM
Post by: evolart on June 09, 2004, 08:51:00 PM
playing through majoras mask and the save states are great while the game is running but when i come back later and try to load a state it often freezes and i have to restart my xbox then the emulator and then the game
im sure you all know how tedious this can be
btw awesome program and the load states issue is my only complaint - keep up the good work
Post by: eldup on June 10, 2004, 05:34:00 PM
* configure surreal.ini file to appropriate folders
* Surreal 1.0 is a must anything else is junk.
At 1st this surreal wouldn't even boot.
* patched all xbe files with xbepatch found on page one.
I was now trying to boot it off of the harddrive in evox I got surreal started, but roms gave me the black screen of death every time, every rom, every setting.
*So i decided to do what I do with games that act like that.
I created a xiso file out of those files
applyied another patch to the xiso using Adr-Xbox_Patcher1_21
burn to dvd runs perfect if booting disk from xbox boot
if loaded from evox blackscreens at rom load
go figure This might be info that is known, but here it is again this may help some of you guys.
Post by: canadianhero53 on June 14, 2004, 07:10:00 PM
Post by: Tea_Tad on June 14, 2004, 09:04:00 PM
. Awhile back when I was trying to get this thing to work....I deleted everything in my " /E/TDATA/a64fea57/ " Folder. Was that bad?
I have no clue what to do anymore so any help is greatly appreciated
Post by: Digidemon101 on June 22, 2004, 03:40:00 AM
I've been up and down this forum for like days now and I can't find a fix for my problem. I see similar problems to mine but no answer.
I have an X-b.i.t Mod chip and it's in there fine. I flashed my chip with the evox m7 bios and it's all running fine. I have several emulators on there already but I'm having such trouble with Surreal 64.
It loads the disc just fine but when I go to run it all I get is a black screen with two arrows and the word quit in between them. If I go to the left arrow I get Credits if I go to the Right Arrow I get video settings and such but when I go down the roms are like invisable and when I do see them they are all messed up and are written in funny code. Then when I go to run them it goes like it's setting up but then quits at 0%.
I have have set the Surreal.ini so the rom path is Rom Path=D:\Roms\. I checked my xbox so that there was no other surreal.ini on there after I adjusted it and still no go. I checked my roms using good64 and everything. Basically what I do is make and Iso with the xiso program and put it on a cd-rw and it loads but the menu is non existant and the roms are looking crappy.
Can Anyone Tell me What I'm Doing wrong?
Post by: JamesH1985 on June 22, 2004, 01:45:00 PM
i checked the ini files and they are correct, i even tried other things, like putting a new surreal on and deleteing the old
is it safe to delete both the surreal folder and the tdata a64 folder (or just the contents)?
Post by: Convoy on June 22, 2004, 03:46:00 PM
Post by: Helios on June 25, 2004, 10:01:00 PM
Post by: hitmantb on June 27, 2004, 06:18:00 PM
Is there anyway I can play games like Mario Kart, Diddy Kong, Mario Party with an arcade stick?
Post by: urlastserenade on July 01, 2004, 09:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (Helios @ Jun 26 2004, 07:01 AM) |
| Hey guys I finally got surreal to play all my games in the 1964 section and the Ultra XLE section.... One problem though... All the games that I want to play (Army Men Sarges Heroes, Mishief Makers, Goldeneye, Castlevania, Worms Armageddon and more) They all play slowly!!! the sound runs at normal speed but all my roms are slow ecept for Banjo Kazooie, Mario 64, Mario Kart 64 and Lylat Wars!! Dammit why is it doing this? |
If you have some money to throw around i've heard the ram upgrade fixes these sort of problems. Head over to www.bmmods.com. They seem to be the only site that will double your ram. It speeds up your emulation and if you run linux. Hope this helps!
Post by: Xorc1st on July 05, 2004, 08:00:00 AM
Oops, I forgot this detail, I'm currently running on a softmod with the UDE.
Post by: armarook on July 05, 2004, 04:26:00 PM
cause this is the only thing stopping me from using surreal64 I believe, cause I've done everything else.
Post by: jcupp114 on July 05, 2004, 06:53:00 PM
Im running the UDE softmod and I uploaded surreal from the zip file to the C:surreal folder in the xbox and tried to run it and got nothing.
Whats the problem here? Tell if my configuration is wrong?
Thank you for your time
Jcupp114
Post by: Xorc1st on July 07, 2004, 12:22:00 PM
Post by: BiggetyBalla on July 07, 2004, 01:09:00 PM
Post by: Bocaj22 on July 09, 2004, 10:57:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on July 10, 2004, 11:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (armarook @ Jul 5 2004, 09:53 PM) |
| GoldenEye_007_(U)_[o1] Star_Fox_64_(U)_[f1] Star_Wars_-_Shadows_of_the_Empire_(U)_(V1.2)_[!] |
Lets see, you have a overdump, a 'fixed' rom (who knows the reliability on that) and a unsupported game.
As to why it wont load the program...beats me. Your methods seem fine, so long as your using 1.0 it should load fine, assuming you put all the files on there. Sure your not using the gueux.net version?
Post by: shanedooley on July 19, 2004, 11:31:00 PM
Post by: zac_haryy on July 21, 2004, 03:56:00 PM
So I am wondering how I am supose to get to the main menu after I beat the game with it knowing that I beat the game??
Thanks!
-haryy
Post by: zac_haryy on July 23, 2004, 06:47:00 AM
Post by: drgreenchicken on July 23, 2004, 08:01:00 AM
Post by: duey2k on July 26, 2004, 10:02:00 PM
Post by: georaldc on July 28, 2004, 07:38:00 AM
Post by: BlueFireCM on July 28, 2004, 05:04:00 PM
If it helps:
Dash: avalaunch0.49.1 (newest)
BIOS: 4983.67(when working) currently-4983.06
Xbox: v1.4 or 1.5
chip-xecuter 2.3b lite+
any help-thanks in advance
Post by: BlueFireCM on July 29, 2004, 12:57:00 PM
Post by: BlueFireCM on July 30, 2004, 06:24:00 AM
Post by: BlueFireCM on July 30, 2004, 08:00:00 AM
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Post by: VampX on July 30, 2004, 10:04:00 AM
| QUOTE (BlueFireCM @ Jul 30 2004, 06:03 PM) |
| nvmd, i fixed it (no help from ANYONE ) |
So what did you do that fixed it?
Post by: BlueFireCM on July 30, 2004, 10:24:00 AM
Post by: drgreenchicken on July 31, 2004, 09:09:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Are you having a problem with your Roms not showing up? First and formost, have you edited the Surreal.ini *before* you run it to point to your roms? You need to change it to be Rom Path=F:\Path\to\your\roms . If you are putting the roms in the 'roms' folder inside your surreal64 install dir, then make the Rom Path=D:\Roms If you have already ran Surreal64, then your ini was saved to the TDATA folder, and you have to edit it there. /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini <-- That is the path to it. Simply edit that file right there to reflect the directory of your roms, and then launch the emu and hit the 'refresh' button in the lower right hand corner. |
Post by: trulle on July 31, 2004, 09:35:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on July 31, 2004, 11:06:00 AM
Post by: KAGE13 on August 15, 2004, 03:38:00 PM
I've read pretty much all 27 pages of this thread, and I still can't get rid of the black screen of death. I have the right bios, I did everything on the first page. I don't have an old chip or executer 1.
and all my paths are right.
I tried xbe patch, and it didn't fix anything. does the same thing everything loads fine then I get the black screen of death
However I did try using dexbe, and something differant does happen. In my emulator menu Surreal64 title has now changed to I 64, and now it just hangs on the xbox loading screen.
I think if everyone would have read all 27 pages like I did, you may have been able to cut 27 pages down to 3.
any "NEW" ideas?
KAGE
Post by: KAGE13 on August 15, 2004, 03:50:00 PM
I'm a computer geek, so I figure like all computer problems, it something stupidly simple or a user problem with the xbe patching programs.
Post by: Kplunk on August 22, 2004, 09:49:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on August 23, 2004, 12:31:00 AM
What i suggest you do is delete any saves made for surreal64 in your MS dashboard, delete your files, reup, and look at your surreal.ini ...make sure its Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
Dont change those paths unless your running from dvd ...then you would change the D:\ to A:\
Post by: scryed on August 29, 2004, 01:50:00 AM
Stats:
Box: 1.6
Kernal: 5838
Dash: Evolution-X 3935
Bios: UDE2 doesn't need one
Surreal Version: 1.0
Tools:
Latest version of Evolution-X
Boxplorer
Dexbe
Let me start by saying thanks to Iriez for giving up so much time to hear people squabble so much. Without the first post I wouldn't of known where to begin.
First off... Download everything first to your PC meaning the newest version of Evolution-X, and the patched versions of your Surreal64 xbe files using dexbe. Create the ISO using SimpleX ISO. Burn it. Load up boxplorer in Evolution-X apps while disk is burning. Either A. you want rename the old Evo-X files and add the new ones or B. you can just write over them. You choose your poison. Do the same with your Surreal64 XBE files. Now I'm not sure that if it was the newer version of Evolution-X or the patched files that did the job because I did both of them at the sametime, but I assume if you did one of them, and its not working, you might as well try the other. Now remember my box is using UDE2, so this solution might not work for you modded a different way.
As well another issue that hit this sector and the softmod people, I am not using the gueux version. I am using the real V1.0, so you do not need the hacked version for it to work. I hope this will help you all out, because I was just as much frustrated as you all were.
Post by: Iriez on August 29, 2004, 03:04:00 AM
Post by: Griffen37 on August 30, 2004, 07:56:00 PM
I can't get Surreal 64 to load, before you answer, please note:
I have Surreal 64 running on UnleashX without a problem so long as I put it in the E:\apps\N64 directory. This leads me to believe it is not a Bios problem, not a problem with the Roms, nor with my ability to edit the ini file to help it find the Roms.
When I try to put it in the E:\Emulators\N64 directory, it won't load up. UnleashX sees it and gives me the icon on the list to select, but the program freezes on the UnleashX load screen and never starts up.
This is NOT a problem with the Roms being found or recognized, this is a problem with the loading of the actual emulator.
Any help? I apologize if this was covered somewhere in the thread and I happened to miss it, I did read almost every post. Thank you.
Post by: scryed on August 30, 2004, 08:15:00 PM
2. make sure you that you have the real surreal.
3. even if you have it, you might want to download it again because it could be corrupt.
4. Patch with the patch to retail option to the xbe files anyways with dexbe and save the trouble when it finally does work
5. Make sure your dashboard is at its most current.
Other than the stuff about making sure you have the file correct. Your surreal should be loading.
Hey Iriez... not to bother you but you might want to trim this thread. Too much repetive stuff. We know you are all powerful and will do it in good time.
Post by: Griffen37 on August 30, 2004, 09:04:00 PM
Post by: scryed on August 30, 2004, 10:46:00 PM
Post by: Griffen37 on August 30, 2004, 11:02:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on August 30, 2004, 11:20:00 PM
Would you care to post us the settings from the UnleashX configuration file, specifically the section where it defines your emulator folder? Also, one key thing is making sure you have the default.xbe there, since some dashboards will only launch default.xbe and not, say, a renamed-to surreal64.xbe.
I would say its a unleashx problem, except you say your other emulators work. It most likely sounds like a combined problem, something along the lines of a non-standard way unleashx does something, combined with surreal not made to work that way. Vauge and unhelpful, yes, but im grabbing at air here.
Post by: Griffen37 on August 31, 2004, 08:14:00 AM
Not only do all of my other emulators work after being relocated, but I can add Surreal as an Item to the emulators section of UnleashX and it runs fine -- as long as the actual files are in the E:\apps\N64 directory. This would lead me to believe it is not an Unleash problem at all, but instead some setting within Surreal. I even tried moving it to the E:\emu\N64 folder rather than the E:\Emulators\N64 folder to see if it was a strange folder name length limitation, but that didn't work either. It only seems to work within the E:\apps folder.
Besides the UnleashX config.xml, the only file I edited was the surreal.ini itself. It seemed the other inis in surreal folder made no reference to paths. In the surreal.ini file, I changed the location of the Roms and Media directories, but oddly enough, surreal seems to work whether I have this pointed to the true path of these files or not (I keep the Roms in a subdirectory of Surreal, so maybe it doesn't rely on the paths, not sure).
In any event, I have the same problem regardless of whether I move the files from one directory on the xbox to another or doing a "clean" install from newly downloaded bins. I'm at a true loss. Have others tried moving to an Emulators folder rather than within the Apps folder to see if it works for them? Would someone mind checking it out? (Putting it back in the apps folder makes it work again without having to wipe anything, so there should be no risk involved).
Thanks again for all the help.
Post by: ShumS on August 31, 2004, 02:26:00 PM
Solution: UPDATE Flash BIOS. if you update to the latest 4893.06/ 67 then itll work just fine. I was using the 4892 before and I was getting the blank screen. So Just update it. Itll fix your problem and youll be able to play the n64 games. it might work so just try it if you have a old BIOS
Post by: Griffen37 on August 31, 2004, 02:43:00 PM
Post by: Iriez on August 31, 2004, 06:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (ShumS @ Aug 31 2004, 03:29 PM) |
| I just found out how to work Surreal if it loads the rom but then just shows up the Blank Screen. Solution: UPDATE Flash BIOS. if you update to the latest 4893.06/ 67 then itll work just fine. I was using the 4892 before and I was getting the blank screen. So Just update it. Itll fix your problem and youll be able to play the n64 games. it might work so just try it if you have a old BIOS |
Did you try resetting your clock *before* reflashing? Alot of people think they solve their issues by reflashing a bios, when however all they did was reset their clock by flashing a new kernel.
When the clock is stuck on 8507 it causes some funky things to happen on your xbox.
Post by: Griffen37 on August 31, 2004, 08:25:00 PM
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<UnleashX>
<Settings>
<MSDashBoard>C:\Xboxdash.xbe</MSDashBoard>
<Password MaxTries="3"></Password>
<Network Enable="Yes" Type="DHCP">
<IP>192.168.0.104</IP>
<Subnet>255.255.255.0</Subnet>
<Gateway>192.168.1.100</Gateway>
<DNS1>0.0.0.0</DNS1>
<DNS2>0.0.0.0</DNS2>
<AutoDetect>Yes</AutoDetect>
</Network>
<FTP Enable="Yes">
<User>****</User>
<Password>****</Password>
<Port>21</Port>
<MaxUsers>*</MaxUsers>
<AllowAnon>No</AllowAnon>
<Greeting>Welcome to XBOX FTP Server</Greeting>
</FTP>
<Newsfeed Enable="False" Interval="30">
<URL>www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/xbox-scene.xml</URL>
<URL>www.xbins.org/xbins.xml</URL>
</Newsfeed>
<Preference>
<Games AutoLaunch="Yes"></Games>
<DVD AutoLaunch="Yes">F:\Apps\DVDX2\default.xbe</DVD>
<AudioCD AutoLaunch="Yes">C:\xboxdash.xbe</AudioCD>
<Data AutoLaunch="Yes"></Data>
<SoundVolume>90</SoundVolume>
<MusicVolume>95</MusicVolume>
<EnableSoundTrack Random="True">Off</EnableSoundTrack>
<SNTP Synchronize="No">216.244.192.3</SNTP>
<FanSpeed>1</FanSpeed>
<ScreenSaver Wait="60">
<Text>UnleashX</Text>
</ScreenSaver>
<AutoTurnOff>0</AutoTurnOff>
<EnableDriveF>True</EnableDriveF>
<EnableDriveG>False</EnableDriveG>
<Skin>[Default]</Skin>
</Preference>
</Settings>
<Menu>
<Item Action="LaunchDVD" Icon="E:\Icons\dvd.png">Launch DVD</Item>
<List Text="Emulators" Sort="On" Auto="On" Icon="E:\Icons\Emulators2.png">
<Path>E:\Emulators</Path>
<Path>F:\Emulators</Path>
<Path>E:\apps\N64</Path>
</List>
<List Text="Applications" Sort="On" Auto="On" Icon="E:\Icons\Apps.png">
<Path>E:\Apps</Path>
<Path>F:\Apps</Path>
<Item Action="TextEditor" Icon="E:\Icons\text2.png">Text Editor</Item>
</List>
<List Text="Games" Sort="On" Auto="On" Icon="E:\Icons\Games2.png">
<Path>E:\Games</Path>
<Path>F:\Games</Path>
<Path>G:\Games</Path>
<Path>E:\HDDLoader</Path>
<Path>F:\HDDLoader</Path>
</List>
<Item Action="C:\xboxdash.xbe" Icon="E:\Icons\msdash.png">MS Dashboard</Item>
<Item Action="Restart" Icon="E:\Icons\reboot.png">Reboot</Item>
<Item Action="Shutdown" Icon="E:\Icons\shutdown.png">Shutdown</Item>
<List Text="System" Sort="Off" Auto="On" Icon="E:\Icons\System.png">
<Item Action="Settings">Settings</Item>
<Item Action="SavesManager">Game Saves Manager</Item>
<List Text="Misc" Sort="Off" Auto="On">
<Item Action="FTPStop">Stop FTP</Item>
<Item Action="FTPStart">Start FTP</Item>
<Item Action="FTPReset">Reset FTP</Item>
<Item Action="NETReset">Restart Network</Item>
<Item Action="TrayClose">Close DVD Tray</Item>
<Item Action="TrayOpen">Open DVD Tray</Item>
<Item Action="CopyDVD">Copy Game Disc</Item>
</List>
<List Text="Format Menu" Sort="Off" Auto="On" Password="Xbox">
<Item Action="Format" Arg1="X">Format X Drive</Item>
<Item Action="Format" Arg1="Y">Format Y Drive</Item>
<Item Action="Format" Arg1="Z">Format Z Drive</Item>
<List Text="Format F Drive" Sort="Off" Batch="True">
<Item Action="AskUser" Arg1="Format">Are you sure you want to format Drive F?</Item>
<Item Action="MessageBox" Arg1="Format">Press OK to proceed with the format operation.</Item>
<Item Action="Format" Arg1="F">Format F Drive</Item>
</List>
<List Text="Format G Drive" Sort="Off" Batch="True">
<Item Action="AskUser" Arg1="Format">Are you sure you want to format Drive G?</Item>
<Item Action="MessageBox" Arg1="Format">Press OK to proceed with the format operation.</Item>
<Item Action="Format" Arg1="G">Format G Drive</Item>
</List>
<List Text="Format E Drive" Sort="Off" Batch="True">
<Item Action="AskUser" Arg1="Format">Are you sure you want to format Drive E?</Item>
<Item Action="MessageBox" Arg1="Format">Press OK to proceed with the format operation.</Item>
<Item Action="Format" Arg1="E">Format E Drive</Item>
</List>
</List>
<Item Action="Skins">Skins</Item>
</List>
<Item Action="FileManager" Icon="E:\Icons\foldercon2.png">File Explorer</Item>
</Menu>
</UnleashX>
Post by: The_Truth on September 01, 2004, 08:47:00 PM
Post by: Kyohe on September 02, 2004, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: biggmike on September 10, 2004, 11:59:00 PM
Post by: TylerH on September 12, 2004, 02:44:00 PM
Post by: scryed on September 12, 2004, 03:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (TylerH @ Sep 12 2004, 10:47 PM) |
| My xbox was modded using the font hack and I'm trying to get surreal64 working properly, i've tried both the v1.0 and the "5530k-GueuxNet" verison and the same thing happens to me when i load a rom up. It loads to 100% and then all I get is a black screen. If anyone could help me out that would be awesome, i'm dyin to play goldeneye again! |
Read my post on this page
Post by: wessels on September 17, 2004, 02:23:00 PM
k back to the original problem i was messing with the prog trying to make the roms come up now the emulator freezes while loading again.... i have already tried reloading it
Post by: wessels on September 17, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
Post by: Vejita on September 17, 2004, 05:55:00 PM
Only the (U) USA roms from GoodN64 and in V64 format?
Also are there any modified/updated INIs which boost compatibility/performance and remove some glitches to download?
Thanks.
Post by: wessels on September 18, 2004, 11:18:00 AM
Post by: scryed on September 18, 2004, 08:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (wessels @ Sep 17 2004, 10:26 PM) |
| k back to the original problem i was messing with the prog trying to make the roms come up now the emulator freezes while loading again.... i have already tried reloading it |
Read the first post on this thread.
Post by: ianmalcm on September 18, 2004, 09:47:00 PM
I hate asking such questions, but I searched this place for over an hour this morning looking for an answer.
Post by: wessels on September 19, 2004, 10:06:00 AM
Post by: scryed on September 19, 2004, 11:02:00 AM
| QUOTE (wessels @ Sep 19 2004, 06:09 PM) |
| ...i have read the first post over and over.... as i have said i have a xbox v1.0 x-b.i.t chip, with evox 8, with evox 3935 dashboard, i have tried surreal from 3 different sources, and i have all the necesary files.... so why do i still have problems.....loading the emulator |
Reading your other post, is the emulator not loading or is it the roms? Second did you get the emulator from the usual place. Third did you patch xbe files. Fourth, thats all I got for now.
Post by: wessels on September 19, 2004, 08:01:00 PM
Post by: scryed on September 19, 2004, 09:05:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| #1: the emulator wont load. |
Well lets begin with that.... Generally that is a dashboard/bios problem or you have a corrupted download or you downloaded the wrong one.
| QUOTE |
| # 2: if xbins is the usual place question. |
If it that has been said to be the usual place then I would assume.
| QUOTE |
| #3:i thought the first post said you only needed to patch them if you have an old modchip question....? |
Don't think then read. Read then think... There was more then just patching....
Iriez talked about bios, ini, patching and goodrom.
| QUOTE |
| #4:.....ok |
ok!
Make sure the surreal you have is Surrealv1.0 not any other version first of all. The new FDB is based off of that, so I would assume that should be the same as downloading 1.0. Do not get the gnuex version. Certain Bios do have problems with surreal, read the first post because I know nothing about flashing or bios because my box is UDE2. And if you want your roms to show put it where you suggested (or by surreal's default its D:\roms means put it in the roms folder in the surreal folder) in that ini file. Patching in my opinion doesn't hurt, and you can always patch it back to debug and reload in your box.
Post by: wessels on September 19, 2004, 09:28:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| (or by surreal's default its D:\roms means put it in the roms folder in the surreal folder) |
...does that mean if my roms folder is in my surreal folder which is F:/Emulators/Surreal 64/ i would just use D:\roms , doesnt that mean the roms would be in the rom folder on the d drive...i am confused....
and anyways i will look more into patchin tommorow.........
Post by: scryed on September 19, 2004, 09:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (wessels @ Sep 20 2004, 05:31 AM) |
| i dont think my bios or dashboard have anything to do with it... they are new... and work perfect with all my other emulators/games..... i have surreal 64 v1.0 and FDB and i would prefer fdb.... ...does that mean if my roms folder is in my surreal folder which is F:/Emulators/Surreal 64/ i would just use D:\roms , doesnt that mean the roms would be in the rom folder on the d drive...i am confused.... and anyways i will look more into patchin tommorow......... |
D: in the sense of an ini file basically means default. Meaning inside the HOME folder (Surreal folder). So if you have the roms folder (named roms) in your surreal folder, D:\roms\ would access those roms.
Beyond the ini file, your D: drive on your xbox is the DVD rom drive.
Post by: wessels on September 20, 2004, 03:25:00 PM
Post by: scryed on September 20, 2004, 04:49:00 PM
Post by: wessels on September 20, 2004, 09:28:00 PM
-in many games the graphics seem to get really get messed up is that cause they are emulated or because i need to change some setting
-where does it store saved game files, i would like to transfer what i was playing on my computer to my xbox
-i am using the FDB version and cant find how to change the flicker rate
Post by: scryed on September 29, 2004, 10:46:00 AM
| QUOTE (darkslide86 @ Sep 29 2004, 04:35 PM) |
| Hello everybody It seems I have a unique problem, most likely due to my (relative) incompetence with computers. At first, the roms would not show but after several days of research and trail and error, I fixed it. Unfortunatly now the media files will not show, which as you can imagine, is extremely frustrating. I have changed the .ini in TDATA several times with no result. Currently the media path is D:/Media and the media dir is in my Surreal 64 folder. I have tried differet versions of surreal (including FDB release v2) and othing works. I am out of ideas, can anyone help? Xbox 1.5 using X2.3b and EvoX M8 |
D:\Media\ is the correct pathway first of all. Your slashes are backwards.
Second DO NOT CHANGE THE INI FOR MEDIA... If so, you are loading NO skin for the GUI meaning you have no GUI (graphics user interface). Surreal from when you download should not have to change its media path changed at all, no messing with or anything of the sort.
Make sure you Media file is in the Surreal Folder and the ini folder should be in the surreal folder as well why do you have it in TDATA? You should set up your file directory for your apps through either your E: or F: drives. So if you want all apps in E: put a folder in E: called apps then put your surreal folder in the apps folder. When you create good flow of directories it gives you less headaches.
Happy Hunting
Post by: scryed on September 29, 2004, 02:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (darkslide86 @ Sep 29 2004, 10:13 PM) |
| Trouble is I have already messed about with surreal.ini's media path, which it seems is why it doesn't work. Currently the dir of my Surreal is E:\apps\emulators\surreal64, and the media dir is in that folder. In surreal.ini I have changed it back to D:\Media but still no luck. Have I completly messed it up? |
I would say delete whole thing and install fresh... That way, you won't have to deal with it entirely, you already know what you need to do for your Roms, just go from there with a fresh install.
Post by: freakdave on September 30, 2004, 01:08:00 PM
Post by: wessels on October 14, 2004, 03:27:00 PM
Post by: Voodoo Child on October 14, 2004, 08:02:00 PM
Post by: kees555 on October 16, 2004, 01:35:00 AM
I saw some persons who followed my logic. Had I explicitly typed what you said it should have worked from the start, but maybe it helps to add that D should be used, even if surreal64 is not on D.
Thanks a lot!
Post by: Megadeth666 on October 16, 2004, 08:06:00 AM
Post by: m@gnus on October 16, 2004, 08:13:00 AM
| QUOTE (Megadeth666 @ Oct 16 2004, 04:09 PM) |
| I can't get Conkers Bad Fur Day to work, it just loads a black screen and crashes my emulator. |
It works on mine!
Try using project64 or 1964. The other emu. froze on me.
Post by: Megadeth666 on October 17, 2004, 12:28:00 AM
Post by: churchisno1 on October 17, 2004, 01:47:00 PM
Post by: juggalo978652 on October 17, 2004, 10:20:00 PM
Thanks for the help.
Post by: juggalo978652 on October 17, 2004, 10:21:00 PM
Post by: scryed on October 18, 2004, 09:29:00 AM
Post by: Xbobsagetx on October 31, 2004, 06:44:00 PM
Post by: Alvarez on December 11, 2004, 11:05:00 PM
My roms are located at F:\applications\Surreal64_V1.0\roms
My Surreal folder looks like this:
Media/
Roms/
1964.ini
1964.xbe
default.xbe
Pj64.xbe
Project64X.rdb
RiceDaedalus5.1.0.ini
Surreal.ini
Surreal64.nfo
ultra.ini
UltraHLE.xbe
Surreal.ini looks like this:
[Settings]
Rom Path=F:\applications\Surreal64_V1.0\Roms
Media Path=F:\applications\Surreal64_V1.0\Media
Default Controller Config=00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17
Default 1964 Dyna Mem=8
Default 1964 Paging Mem=4
Default PJ64 Dyna Mem=16
Default PJ64 Paging Mem=4
Default Use LLE RSP=0
Default Use Basic Audio=0
Default Max Video Mem=4
Hope i gave enough information, please help me!
Post by: Talus on December 16, 2004, 09:19:00 PM
:uhh:
I just wasted a freakin' DVD!
Any way to get Surreal to read my roms off my PC over the network instead?
This post has been edited by Talus: Dec 17 2004, 05:22 AM
Post by: Maniudoofi on December 17, 2004, 10:44:00 PM
with that I have the infamous "Surreal works, but i get the black screen of doom"
ok im running everything off the disc drive both the emu and the roms
so the root of my discs look like this
ROMS --this is a folder
Media -- this is a folder
1964.xbe
pj64.xbe
default.xbe
Project64X.rdb
1964.ini
RiceDaedalus5.1.0.ini
Surreal.ini
ultrahle.xbe
ultra.ini
ok my surreal .ini looks like this
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
and i see the roms just fine, boxart shows up and its cool, i used goodn64 to verify my roms and they are good to go
but.... as soon as i boot up a rom with any emulator it goes loading....50%.....75%....then after it hits 100
BAM
black screen, and it stays there =\
im using xecuter lite 2.6
the default MS dashboard
and my bios is evox (latest one)
my xbox is 1.5
thanks in advance
Post by: WONDERBOY15 on December 23, 2004, 10:44:00 AM
Post by: RocTheEngy on January 03, 2005, 04:04:00 PM
Now, I took that same copy of Surreal on my laptop and ftp'd it to my nephew's xbox (version 1.4 or 1.5) with the xecuter 2.6. This xbox required evox's m8plus bios (I believe that's what it was called). Anyways, the bios is the only difference - I use the same loader disc - same dash, etc. Now Surreal64 hangs/locks as it begins to load - I never even get to the ROM list.
I don't believe any files were changed in between these 2 copies of Surreal.
Could it be that the one bios needs the xbe's patched when the *_16 version did not? If so, why would one bios need an xbe patched and another does not?
Or is the problem symtomatic of the differing xbox versions, or both?
clarification would help.... thanks... just trying to understand this...
Post by: Kristtothemax on January 04, 2005, 04:19:00 PM
I was just wondering, I have Diddy Kong Racing and as I saved the game, I set the controller settings to the Mempack option. But when I rebooted the Xbox, and started the game up again, my save was empty..
How do you create a save game that stays on Surreal 64?
Thanks,
Krist
Post by: eggmaster on January 17, 2005, 11:27:00 PM
like many people, i can get surreal to load, but not any of the roms... i used to be running the evox M7 bios... i tried it without patching the xbe files... i tried patching all 4 xbe files with both dexbe and xbe patcher... none of that worked... i just reflashed with Xecuter 2.3 Bios 4983.67 - i've tried 2 different DL's of surreal.... but every time i try to load a game (checked with goodn64, and approved by that post) my load gets to 66% then the screen goes black... i hate having to ask questions in msg boards (i prefer reading other ppls questions/answers first) but i dont know what to do... i've spent like 8 hours trying to get this to work.... i'm sorry if i'm being that annoying guy whos asking a question already answered a billion times... and i think i've covered everything in the first post.... any help would be greatly appreciated... thanks
-egg
Post by: eggmaster on January 18, 2005, 12:01:00 AM
Post by: bdisagree on January 18, 2005, 03:20:00 PM
I want to re-install Surreal and the roms, as I believe these files are causing the system chaos and ensuring I won't be able to do this.
Anyone else have problems like this where the roms aren't loading when starting Surreal?
Post by: Baseball_gUy on January 19, 2005, 01:27:00 PM
Please Help :)
Post by: Iriez on January 19, 2005, 01:25:00 PM
Post by: Pereghost on January 20, 2005, 07:00:00 PM
So thank you
Sincerely Ghost
Post by: Speen05 on January 23, 2005, 09:00:00 AM
Post by: parsaw on January 23, 2005, 10:17:00 AM
Post by: vernonjr on January 23, 2005, 07:29:00 PM
This post has been edited by vernonjr: Jan 24 2005, 03:30 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 23, 2005, 08:16:00 PM
QUOTE(vernonjr @ Jan 23 2005, 08:24 PM)
Alright, i am having a problem just getting the emulator itself to load. I'm using a softmodded xbox if that makes any difference, and my bios version is 3094. Snes9x does work on my xbox, so im not sure why this wont. I think* i patched my xbes. I used the patch program and it made .bak files, and i just renamed them, is this correct? Any help would be great, thanks.
use teh gueux.net version for softmods. If that doesnt work, and you've tried patching, then im not sure.
Post by: vernonjr on January 23, 2005, 08:58:00 PM
This post has been edited by vernonjr: Jan 24 2005, 05:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on January 23, 2005, 11:14:00 PM
Post by: vernonjr on January 24, 2005, 07:55:00 PM
Post by: enurweb on February 05, 2005, 07:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Maniudoofi @ Dec 18 2004, 05:14 AM)
First i want to say thank you to Iriez for taking so much time to answer our questions
with that I have the infamous "Surreal works, but i get the black screen of doom"
ok im running everything off the disc drive both the emu and the roms
so the root of my discs look like this
ROMS --this is a folder
Media -- this is a folder
1964.xbe
pj64.xbe
default.xbe
Project64X.rdb
1964.ini
RiceDaedalus5.1.0.ini
Surreal.ini
ultrahle.xbe
ultra.ini
ok my surreal .ini looks like this
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
and i see the roms just fine, boxart shows up and its cool, i used goodn64 to verify my roms and they are good to go
but.... as soon as i boot up a rom with any emulator it goes loading....50%.....75%....then after it hits 100
BAM
black screen, and it stays there =\
im using xecuter lite 2.6
the default MS dashboard
and my bios is evox (latest one)
my xbox is 1.5
thanks in advance
with that I have the infamous "Surreal works, but i get the black screen of doom"
ok im running everything off the disc drive both the emu and the roms
so the root of my discs look like this
ROMS --this is a folder
Media -- this is a folder
1964.xbe
pj64.xbe
default.xbe
Project64X.rdb
1964.ini
RiceDaedalus5.1.0.ini
Surreal.ini
ultrahle.xbe
ultra.ini
ok my surreal .ini looks like this
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
and i see the roms just fine, boxart shows up and its cool, i used goodn64 to verify my roms and they are good to go
but.... as soon as i boot up a rom with any emulator it goes loading....50%.....75%....then after it hits 100
BAM
black screen, and it stays there =\
im using xecuter lite 2.6
the default MS dashboard
and my bios is evox (latest one)
my xbox is 1.5
thanks in advance
I have the exact same problem as you just that I have a other chip.
My Xbox has the X-Ecuter 3 chip with the EvoX v 2.0 BIOS. The screen says "Gemini server EvoX SetupCD v.2.0"
The Xbox it self is a brand new crystal xbox.
The nfo file to my Surreal64 emulator says: "Surreal 64 - Nintendo 64 Emulator for the Xbox v1.0
Released:
6/1/2004"
It's loaded in to my Xbox and all the roms are appearing when i start Surreal64, it's just that all the games i start load until 100%. Then the Xbox hangs up with this black screen.
I've tried pathing with both pathes mentioned in the start of this thread.
Please help me :(
Post by: monkeyboyj on February 05, 2005, 07:23:00 AM
QUOTE(Maniudoofi @ Dec 18 2004, 05:14 AM)
First i want to say thank you to Iriez for taking so much time to answer our questions
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: SeaRR85 on February 07, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: little3b on February 22, 2005, 11:09:00 AM
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ok i knoe u might of said the answer to this problem but ineed help getting the games to put in the sureal64,super nintendo and the others system in my salyer v2.6 dashbored thingy were it lets me play i just nee help on were to go and what to do please help me i was told to come here were i can get help
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: YourNameHere004 on February 23, 2005, 02:17:00 PM
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ok, everything seems to work fine with one exception.... i cant seem to configure my controllers. when i go to the controller config, theres just a blue box and a little hand to point at different spots. the hand moves fine and theres even instructions on how to configure the controller (select n64 button and press xbox button you want to map it to, etc.), but theres no words or pictures. the config screen is just empty with the exception of 2 instructional sentences at the bottom. anybody else had this problem? i bought my xbox with everything preloaded, plus im a newbie as far as ".xbe's" and ".ini's" and whatnot. if someone can explain (in "idiot terms") how i can fix this, i would greatly appreciate it. thanks in advance.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: hamburglar111 on February 24, 2005, 05:29:00 PM
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I read through these posts, and I don't think my question has been answered. Is there any way to adjust the screen size in Surreal? In most of my other emulators, there is a setting to fix this, but I cannot seem to find one in Surreal. Thanks, and sorry if this question has already been asked.
hamburglar111
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: freakdave on February 24, 2005, 06:15:00 PM
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Not yet...
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: shockit22 on February 25, 2005, 09:07:00 PM
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i loaded my roms and they showed up but when i went to play them it has all black screen and i hear the sound but no pic whats up
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jmmoore5711 on March 02, 2005, 06:57:00 PM
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Ok I am having trouble, I have surreal64_fdb_v4 I ftped it into my emulators folder which is in my E: of my xbox, I have other emulators there that work fine. I have put my games in my roms fold inside the surreal64 folder, only a few show up on the surreal64 menu. The ones that do not were in .7z format when I got them, and I opened them with rar and zipped them back with winzip. but any way I can see 4 game, I click on them they load up and nothing happens. I wait like 5 minutes and nothing My .ini file is
[Settings]
Rom Path=D:\Roms
Media Path=D:\Media\
can someone help me
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: bossdogg on March 05, 2005, 02:46:00 AM
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yeah my xbox is stuck on ms screen and the evolution symbol is spinning in the back ground. but for the past couple of months its been working fine. i think i might need a boot disk for it. anyone know what to do? : :uhh:
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Textbook on March 05, 2005, 11:06:00 AM
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I have Surreal 64 running perfectly fine on my xbox, no problems whatsoever. I have a v1.3 Xbox with an Xecuter 2.3B Lite+ Modchip and I'm running X24981 Bios. Well, my friend played some Mariokart and Ocarina of Time on my box and said that he just had to have this emulator. He was so excited. I transfered all the files to his Xbox under F:/Roms. This is including the .ini file which worked perfectly on mine. Well, his Xbox is v1.0 with an Xecuter 1.6 Modchip and I think he's running X24983. Iriez said that if you have an older chip, then you have to patch the xbe to get the emu to run. Well, that isn't the problem. The emu loads up and runs. I can't see any roms, so I hit reload. Nothing. I switch to favorites, to all, to boxart, to list. Still Nothing. I know the .ini is right, because I transferred it off mine and into the same folder on his. Got any advice?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DrifterX-2 on March 10, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
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Ok what is the problem If I get right to when the rom is going to load but it gets 0% and then stops...back to the menu.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: dish_newb on March 13, 2005, 02:11:00 AM
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i patched my xbe's and got surreal64 to load, but i dont see ant roms, my rom path, and media path are set correct..
i'm using
x3ce with 3029 bios
the 2 roms im trying to use:
Mario Kart 64 (U) [h1C]
Yoshi's Story (U) [f1]
can someone please help???
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ayrtonsenna on March 15, 2005, 04:05:00 PM
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all right i'm lost as hell on how to get this thing to work. everytime i put the disc into my xbox the thing says that it's not a xbox game,cd or dvd. ive put the surreal file on a disc with roms, ive made it an iso, ive played with the ini file and nothing works. ive heard people saying the down loaded the file to their hard drive. how do they do this? does the xbox need to be modded to run surreal? someone please help me i'm sick of wasting cds to figure this out.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Textbook on March 17, 2005, 03:35:00 PM
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[/QUOTE]
Wow, I would normally just blow up on you, but this is your first post. You came across this site and you thought you could get some cool stuff on your Xbox. Well, basically this entire site is devoted to programs that run on a MODDED Xbox. To answer your question, YES! - you need a modded Xbox to run Surreal 64 or any other emulator. Go to the Newbie forum and look for the FAQs which will introduce you to Xbox modding.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Textbook on March 19, 2005, 10:22:00 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Ackirismo on March 21, 2005, 07:06:00 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Ackirismo on March 21, 2005, 07:59:00 PM
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Oh by the way im running softmod on my xbox, I needed the gueux version so i THINK i downloaded it but not sure cause its named the same And i continued to have the problem, could you give me (Not requesting for a link or download.) a "Search query " For google that I could use to finf the Gueux version of surreal for my xbox
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Textbook on March 22, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
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. When you do retrieve the BIOS, you will have to rename it BIOS.BIN and use X2 Bios Manager to resize it to 1024k. Then, put the BIOS.BIN file and any file that is >50mb onto a CD-RW. Has to be CD-RW. Then, you will insert the CD-RW into your Xbox and the Modchip will flash itself. When you get SlaYer's Evox Autoinstaller, you can burn the .iso file using a Burning program called Nero. Get the free trial from Nero.com. Burn this disc and use it to set up your Xbox. Instructions will come with SlaYer's in the form of a .pdf file. Your XBOX will now be able to play burned games and backup games to the hard drive, although I recommend installing a larger hard drive. Original Xbox HD = 8gb. Avg. Game = 3gb. Because you don't have access to the full HD, you will only be able to backup one game on your HD. Of course, game sizes will vary. Well, this is not really the place to be talking about this kind of stuff. Head on over to www.copying-sbox-games.com, and read or ask questions in the Newbie forum. Don't post anymore questions about this here, because people tend to get mad when a forum gets posts that don't necessarily relate to the topic. Ask some questions and read around. Or, find someone in your area who can mod it for you.
Good Luck!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Poobah on March 26, 2005, 11:25:00 PM
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Which of all the variants of Surreal64 is the best? If you've softmodded your Xbox do you really have to use the GueuxNet one? Is there anything I can do to stop the scaled sprites to have weird corners (compare the Mario Party intro logos in PJ64 to Surreal64)?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: NastyWazza on March 27, 2005, 07:27:00 AM
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i have Surreal (obviously) and it doesnt load from my EvoX dashboard anymore for some unkown reason but it still loads from XBMC through programs.
anyone know how to fix this little problem??
i have tried reinstalling Surreal and so on but that doesnt change anything, i mite have to reinstall EvoX or something, or just use XBMC as the dashboard
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Akmel on March 30, 2005, 02:06:00 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Akmel on March 30, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
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And which is best : surreal-fdb-v4 or surrealxxx ?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DolfhinDC on March 31, 2005, 10:39:00 AM
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XXX is basicly Surreal-FDB-V4 with some nice extra changes (everything is in the GUI now)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Sookie32 on April 02, 2005, 03:40:00 PM
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OK, after reading all 30+ pages i havent found an answer unfortunately. So Ill ask my question...
I have a 1.1 xbox with an XBIT Chip running evoxM7.
I have put surreal64 FDB v4 onto my F drive.
F:\emutlators\Surreal64 FDB v4
I have no trouble starting it up, and it always recognizes all of my roms, which are in (F:\emulators\Surreal64 FDB v4\Roms). But No matter which of the 3 emulators I use and no matter what settings I use, It will go through the loading and get to 100% and then BLACK screen of death. I didnt have any problems using the standalone emulators when they were availiable a while ago, so I just cant seem to figure out the problem. If anyone there has gone through this and fixed it please let me know what you did.
THanks!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ilovecrack on April 05, 2005, 08:46:00 PM
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I had the same problem using my v.1 xbox with an xecuter 1 chip. I used dexbe on my previous surreal and it worked. When i tried it for surreal i couldnt get it. But then i tried xbepatcher(on first page) and it worked. All i did was drag every xbe into the xbe patcher .exe and i was good to go. Try that.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: enderandrew on April 06, 2005, 12:27:00 AM
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I have the exact same problem with certain games. I suspect the compatibility list thread isn't exactly accurate. Some games only work with one of the 3 emulators. Some take several minutes to load, and you have to wait through the black screen. Some work with graphical glitches, and a few work quite well.
It just takes time to experiment.
That's EXACTLY why I would love to see Surreal (either version) remember which emulator you use for each rom, and come preconfigured better for popular roms.
This post has been edited by enderandrew: Apr 6 2005, 07:28 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: iforgotmyname on April 06, 2005, 06:58:00 AM
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i just got a copy of this and whenever i boot with the disk in it never gos past the X logo and if i go to my dash put it in and go to load dvd it never gets past the loading screen. It's a x3 chip not shure about bios though.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: supaflash on April 08, 2005, 04:43:00 PM
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ok and how am i supposed to edit my /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini <----??? tdata folder or whatever??? im using the geux french version of this surreal thats already on my HD and used your "xiso" method of creating a folder and putting a roms folder inside that folder. then using xiso to make an iso and burned with dvd decryptor . you didnt mention what burning software to use. nero , wouldnt know to burn as iso/image, data???? any help????
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: SaveFerris on April 08, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
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Post by: hamburglar111 on February 24, 2005, 05:29:00 PM
hamburglar111
Post by: freakdave on February 24, 2005, 06:15:00 PM
QUOTE(hamburglar111 @ Feb 24 2005, 11:59 PM)
Is there any way to adjust the screen size in Surreal?
Not yet...
Post by: shockit22 on February 25, 2005, 09:07:00 PM
Post by: jmmoore5711 on March 02, 2005, 06:57:00 PM
[Settings]
Rom Path=D:\Roms
Media Path=D:\Media\
can someone help me
Post by: bossdogg on March 05, 2005, 02:46:00 AM
Post by: Textbook on March 05, 2005, 11:06:00 AM
Post by: DrifterX-2 on March 10, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
Post by: dish_newb on March 13, 2005, 02:11:00 AM
i'm using
x3ce with 3029 bios
the 2 roms im trying to use:
Mario Kart 64 (U) [h1C]
Yoshi's Story (U) [f1]
can someone please help???
Post by: ayrtonsenna on March 15, 2005, 04:05:00 PM
Post by: Textbook on March 17, 2005, 03:35:00 PM
Wow, I would normally just blow up on you, but this is your first post. You came across this site and you thought you could get some cool stuff on your Xbox. Well, basically this entire site is devoted to programs that run on a MODDED Xbox. To answer your question, YES! - you need a modded Xbox to run Surreal 64 or any other emulator. Go to the Newbie forum and look for the FAQs which will introduce you to Xbox modding.
Post by: Textbook on March 19, 2005, 10:22:00 AM
Post by: Ackirismo on March 21, 2005, 07:06:00 PM
Post by: Ackirismo on March 21, 2005, 07:59:00 PM
Post by: Textbook on March 22, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
. When you do retrieve the BIOS, you will have to rename it BIOS.BIN and use X2 Bios Manager to resize it to 1024k. Then, put the BIOS.BIN file and any file that is >50mb onto a CD-RW. Has to be CD-RW. Then, you will insert the CD-RW into your Xbox and the Modchip will flash itself. When you get SlaYer's Evox Autoinstaller, you can burn the .iso file using a Burning program called Nero. Get the free trial from Nero.com. Burn this disc and use it to set up your Xbox. Instructions will come with SlaYer's in the form of a .pdf file. Your XBOX will now be able to play burned games and backup games to the hard drive, although I recommend installing a larger hard drive. Original Xbox HD = 8gb. Avg. Game = 3gb. Because you don't have access to the full HD, you will only be able to backup one game on your HD. Of course, game sizes will vary. Well, this is not really the place to be talking about this kind of stuff. Head on over to www.copying-sbox-games.com, and read or ask questions in the Newbie forum. Don't post anymore questions about this here, because people tend to get mad when a forum gets posts that don't necessarily relate to the topic. Ask some questions and read around. Or, find someone in your area who can mod it for you.Good Luck!
Post by: Poobah on March 26, 2005, 11:25:00 PM
Post by: NastyWazza on March 27, 2005, 07:27:00 AM
anyone know how to fix this little problem??
i have tried reinstalling Surreal and so on but that doesnt change anything, i mite have to reinstall EvoX or something, or just use XBMC as the dashboard
Post by: Akmel on March 30, 2005, 02:06:00 PM
Post by: Akmel on March 30, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: DolfhinDC on March 31, 2005, 10:39:00 AM
QUOTE(Akmel @ Mar 30 2005, 10:26 PM)
And which is best : surreal-fdb-v4 or surrealxxx ?
XXX is basicly Surreal-FDB-V4 with some nice extra changes (everything is in the GUI now)
Post by: Sookie32 on April 02, 2005, 03:40:00 PM
I have a 1.1 xbox with an XBIT Chip running evoxM7.
I have put surreal64 FDB v4 onto my F drive.
F:\emutlators\Surreal64 FDB v4
I have no trouble starting it up, and it always recognizes all of my roms, which are in (F:\emulators\Surreal64 FDB v4\Roms). But No matter which of the 3 emulators I use and no matter what settings I use, It will go through the loading and get to 100% and then BLACK screen of death. I didnt have any problems using the standalone emulators when they were availiable a while ago, so I just cant seem to figure out the problem. If anyone there has gone through this and fixed it please let me know what you did.
THanks!
Post by: ilovecrack on April 05, 2005, 08:46:00 PM
Post by: enderandrew on April 06, 2005, 12:27:00 AM
QUOTE(Sookie32 @ Apr 2 2005, 10:10 PM)
I have no trouble starting it up, and it always recognizes all of my roms, which are in (F:\emulators\Surreal64 FDB v4\Roms). But No matter which of the 3 emulators I use and no matter what settings I use, It will go through the loading and get to 100% and then BLACK screen of death. I didnt have any problems using the standalone emulators when they were availiable a while ago, so I just cant seem to figure out the problem. If anyone there has gone through this and fixed it please let me know what you did.
THanks!
THanks!
I have the exact same problem with certain games. I suspect the compatibility list thread isn't exactly accurate. Some games only work with one of the 3 emulators. Some take several minutes to load, and you have to wait through the black screen. Some work with graphical glitches, and a few work quite well.
It just takes time to experiment.
That's EXACTLY why I would love to see Surreal (either version) remember which emulator you use for each rom, and come preconfigured better for popular roms.
This post has been edited by enderandrew: Apr 6 2005, 07:28 AM
Post by: iforgotmyname on April 06, 2005, 06:58:00 AM
Post by: supaflash on April 08, 2005, 04:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Jan 7 2004, 01:21 PM)
Since there seems to be a million kazillion threads, im going to do this in effort to clean up this forum. If you have a issue with surreal64 loading or playing games read here first, and try any suggestions in relation to your problem. If it is not fixed after trying, then reply with your specific problem.
Firstly, are you having problems loading the emulator? Does it freeze on loading/black screen? Check these things..
Are you running a 4977 bios? (One thats been patched for lba48) Or 4978? Both are known to cause issues -
Reflash with a evox bios, or 4976.06 or 4979.06/67 +
Do you have all the correct files and folders on your xbox? (most specifically the media directory, default.xbe and surreal.ini)
Are you using a old modchip such as xecuter 1, or enigmah/xtender? - Try patching first (all your xbe files)with dexbe to retail, and if that doesnt work your going to need to use Phoenix Bios Loader (PBL) to boot another bios into memory before launching. This will not go into support for using PBL. Please use at your own descretion.
People who cannot get it to load by patching with dexbe should also try xbe patcher
Are you having a problem with your Roms not showing up?
First and formost, have you edited the Surreal.ini *before* you run it to point to your roms?
You need to change it to be Rom Path=F:\Path\to\your\roms . If you are putting the roms in the 'roms' folder inside your surreal64 install dir, then make the Rom Path=D:\Roms
If you have already ran Surreal64, then your ini was saved to the TDATA folder, and you have to edit it there.
/E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini <-- That is the path to it. Simply edit that file right there to reflect the directory of your roms, and then launch the emu and hit the 'refresh' button in the lower right hand corner.
Are you trying to run Roms off the dvd and cannot get it to work?
First, you must create a xiso of your roms. Create a New folder...name it whatever you please. Go into it, and make a directory called "Roms". Put all of your N64 Roms in there. Use Simple Xiso and select that 'new directory' that you created for creating a xiso. The point is to create a xiso with a roms folder on there, and NOT your roms on the root directory of the disk. If you put them directly on the disk it will not work. Create the xiso, and burn using record now max or nero or whatever your favorite burning software is. Make sure you are using media your xbox can read, i.e. if you have a samsung you can use cd-r, if not you can only use cd-rw/dvd-r/dvd+r. If you have not launched surreal64 on your xbox, then you can edit your ini right there to say A\:Roms or if you have already launched it you must edit /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini to reflect A:\Roms . Relaunch Surreal64 with your disk in the tray and hit the refresh button.
Are certian Roms not showing up?
Check your roms!
GOODN64
Download Goodn64, bin.zip, and good windows. Extract them all to a directory of your choice. In goodwindows select 'Good tool' as your mode, and then select Nintendo 64 as your system. The rom directory is in the lower left corner, simply choose the directory of your roms, then hit the big button on the lower right (Should say Goodn64.exe rename). It will put all of your roms renamed properly in a N64Ren folder, and any bad/unknown in another.
If a specific rom is not showing up, and you have renamed it, check and make sure the surreal.ini has a entry for it. Example...
You have Banjo-Kazooie (E) [!].zip and for some reason its not showing up. Open surreal.ini with a text editor (most of you will use notepad, but use ultraedit if you have it).
Do a search for Banjo until you find the entry for that rom. In this case..it would be
[733FCCB1-444892F9-C:50]
Game Name=Banjo-Kazooie
Alternate Title=Banjo-Kazooie (E) [!]
Comments=Playable
Preferred Emulator=0
If your rom has been renamed by goodn64, and does not show up, you should not be able to find it in the surreal.ini. This is merely a confirmation of what exactly is happening. If this is the case, obtain the correct version of the rom. All (U) and (E) [!] roms are supported (to show on the romlist). Also, if your zip file is compressed a certian way (dont ask me which way) surreal may not be able to extract the rom from the zip to verify the crc. If this is not the case, and your rom IS renamed, AND you have found the entry for it in the ini (and you are sure it is the correct rom), you've tried unzipping, and it is still not showing up, then i have no clue = ) I would advise you contain another version supported by the surreal.ini
If you have a rom that you have verified to be a good dump, and transfered it to your xbox, and refreshed your romlist, and it is *still* not showing up, then unzip the rom and transfer it, instead of the zip archive. The reason this might happen is because its using a non standard compression, and surreal 64 wouldnt be able to unzip it to see which rom it is.
Also, in regards to romplaying/stability/capability i have noticed that evox takes more memory somehow if launched from it (the dashboard, not the bios). I would imagine the reason is because evox patches the kernel, and also uses debug TSR tools. Try to not launch surreal64 from evox to minimalize any problems.
---ROM CONFIGURATION SECTION---
Most of the games should run fine with the default settings.
For audio you only have two choices, Azimer, which is the audio source from apollo used with jttl's SDL sound output, or PJ RSP, which is the basic audio plugin with LLE.
If a game is not playing (as in loads and freezes, or runs slow) you may be able to tweak the preformance by adjusting the memory settings.
The best way to go about this is to load the game, and turn on the debug display by right clicking on the analog stick and selecting it.
This will display how much memory is free. Start playing your game and keep in mind how much is free.
A example would be...super smash brothers. Ingame while your playing you have say.. 7.5MB free on average.
Quit the game and go back to the romlist and go into the settings.
The default setting should be 4MB video.
For 1964 dyna should be 8mb, and paging 4mb.
For PJ64 dyna should be 16mb, and paging 4mb
Now you will want to adjust your settings dependant upon which emulator you used.
Keep in mind that in order for the menu ingame to display correctly, you need atleast 4mb free. With 7.5 mb free on our example, that would give you 3.5 mb to play with, if you want the menu to show. If you dont give a damn about the menu, then i would suggest only going as low as 2mb free, which would give you 5.5Mb to play with.
The most noticable impact you will see is by increasing the dyna. Only in very few games (like super smash brothers and banjo tooie that comes to mind) need alot of video memory for textures. You'll notice some backgrounds missing in SSB if your video setting is too low.
So, by default, say in 1964 you have 8mb dyna. You have anywhere from 3.5-5.5 MB to play with. My suggestion would be to trial and error and see what does best for you. Try increasing the dyna by 4mb first, and see if that improves your preformance. If that doesnt work, increase it by 2, and increase the paging by 2. If that doesnt improve, drop the paging to 2mb and increase the dyna by 6mb.
Some games, like perfect dark, simply need more memory than a 64mb xbox can provide with the current core. It needs about 16mb dyna and 16mb paging in order to run smooth.
In some cases you can drop the paging to 1mb without a noticable difference. This may increase stuttering, or draw the FPS to nothing when trying to load a level/scene/texture that requires large memory.
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Are you getting a BLACK SCREEN after loading a rom? Make 100% sure you are using Surreal v1.0 and NOT the gueux.net version. That version is for softmod exploits on newer xbox kernels.
Yes, .ZIP files are supported, aswell as all the known extentions for n64 rom's such as .usa and .v64
A specific rom not showing up on the list?
Please keep in mind this is not a bug or compatibility list. This is merely a help thread getting surreal *Started*. Please post to the appropriate thread if you wish to submit a bug within the emulator.
I will update this post with helpful information as i recieve it.
Firstly, are you having problems loading the emulator? Does it freeze on loading/black screen? Check these things..
Are you running a 4977 bios? (One thats been patched for lba48) Or 4978? Both are known to cause issues -
Reflash with a evox bios, or 4976.06 or 4979.06/67 +
Do you have all the correct files and folders on your xbox? (most specifically the media directory, default.xbe and surreal.ini)
Are you using a old modchip such as xecuter 1, or enigmah/xtender? - Try patching first (all your xbe files)with dexbe to retail, and if that doesnt work your going to need to use Phoenix Bios Loader (PBL) to boot another bios into memory before launching. This will not go into support for using PBL. Please use at your own descretion.
People who cannot get it to load by patching with dexbe should also try xbe patcher
Are you having a problem with your Roms not showing up?
First and formost, have you edited the Surreal.ini *before* you run it to point to your roms?
You need to change it to be Rom Path=F:\Path\to\your\roms . If you are putting the roms in the 'roms' folder inside your surreal64 install dir, then make the Rom Path=D:\Roms
If you have already ran Surreal64, then your ini was saved to the TDATA folder, and you have to edit it there.
/E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini <-- That is the path to it. Simply edit that file right there to reflect the directory of your roms, and then launch the emu and hit the 'refresh' button in the lower right hand corner.
Are you trying to run Roms off the dvd and cannot get it to work?
First, you must create a xiso of your roms. Create a New folder...name it whatever you please. Go into it, and make a directory called "Roms". Put all of your N64 Roms in there. Use Simple Xiso and select that 'new directory' that you created for creating a xiso. The point is to create a xiso with a roms folder on there, and NOT your roms on the root directory of the disk. If you put them directly on the disk it will not work. Create the xiso, and burn using record now max or nero or whatever your favorite burning software is. Make sure you are using media your xbox can read, i.e. if you have a samsung you can use cd-r, if not you can only use cd-rw/dvd-r/dvd+r. If you have not launched surreal64 on your xbox, then you can edit your ini right there to say A\:Roms or if you have already launched it you must edit /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini to reflect A:\Roms . Relaunch Surreal64 with your disk in the tray and hit the refresh button.
Are certian Roms not showing up?
Check your roms!
GOODN64
Download Goodn64, bin.zip, and good windows. Extract them all to a directory of your choice. In goodwindows select 'Good tool' as your mode, and then select Nintendo 64 as your system. The rom directory is in the lower left corner, simply choose the directory of your roms, then hit the big button on the lower right (Should say Goodn64.exe rename). It will put all of your roms renamed properly in a N64Ren folder, and any bad/unknown in another.
If a specific rom is not showing up, and you have renamed it, check and make sure the surreal.ini has a entry for it. Example...
You have Banjo-Kazooie (E) [!].zip and for some reason its not showing up. Open surreal.ini with a text editor (most of you will use notepad, but use ultraedit if you have it).
Do a search for Banjo until you find the entry for that rom. In this case..it would be
[733FCCB1-444892F9-C:50]
Game Name=Banjo-Kazooie
Alternate Title=Banjo-Kazooie (E) [!]
Comments=Playable
Preferred Emulator=0
If your rom has been renamed by goodn64, and does not show up, you should not be able to find it in the surreal.ini. This is merely a confirmation of what exactly is happening. If this is the case, obtain the correct version of the rom. All (U) and (E) [!] roms are supported (to show on the romlist). Also, if your zip file is compressed a certian way (dont ask me which way) surreal may not be able to extract the rom from the zip to verify the crc. If this is not the case, and your rom IS renamed, AND you have found the entry for it in the ini (and you are sure it is the correct rom), you've tried unzipping, and it is still not showing up, then i have no clue = ) I would advise you contain another version supported by the surreal.ini
If you have a rom that you have verified to be a good dump, and transfered it to your xbox, and refreshed your romlist, and it is *still* not showing up, then unzip the rom and transfer it, instead of the zip archive. The reason this might happen is because its using a non standard compression, and surreal 64 wouldnt be able to unzip it to see which rom it is.
Also, in regards to romplaying/stability/capability i have noticed that evox takes more memory somehow if launched from it (the dashboard, not the bios). I would imagine the reason is because evox patches the kernel, and also uses debug TSR tools. Try to not launch surreal64 from evox to minimalize any problems.
---ROM CONFIGURATION SECTION---
Most of the games should run fine with the default settings.
For audio you only have two choices, Azimer, which is the audio source from apollo used with jttl's SDL sound output, or PJ RSP, which is the basic audio plugin with LLE.
If a game is not playing (as in loads and freezes, or runs slow) you may be able to tweak the preformance by adjusting the memory settings.
The best way to go about this is to load the game, and turn on the debug display by right clicking on the analog stick and selecting it.
This will display how much memory is free. Start playing your game and keep in mind how much is free.
A example would be...super smash brothers. Ingame while your playing you have say.. 7.5MB free on average.
Quit the game and go back to the romlist and go into the settings.
The default setting should be 4MB video.
For 1964 dyna should be 8mb, and paging 4mb.
For PJ64 dyna should be 16mb, and paging 4mb
Now you will want to adjust your settings dependant upon which emulator you used.
Keep in mind that in order for the menu ingame to display correctly, you need atleast 4mb free. With 7.5 mb free on our example, that would give you 3.5 mb to play with, if you want the menu to show. If you dont give a damn about the menu, then i would suggest only going as low as 2mb free, which would give you 5.5Mb to play with.
The most noticable impact you will see is by increasing the dyna. Only in very few games (like super smash brothers and banjo tooie that comes to mind) need alot of video memory for textures. You'll notice some backgrounds missing in SSB if your video setting is too low.
So, by default, say in 1964 you have 8mb dyna. You have anywhere from 3.5-5.5 MB to play with. My suggestion would be to trial and error and see what does best for you. Try increasing the dyna by 4mb first, and see if that improves your preformance. If that doesnt work, increase it by 2, and increase the paging by 2. If that doesnt improve, drop the paging to 2mb and increase the dyna by 6mb.
Some games, like perfect dark, simply need more memory than a 64mb xbox can provide with the current core. It needs about 16mb dyna and 16mb paging in order to run smooth.
In some cases you can drop the paging to 1mb without a noticable difference. This may increase stuttering, or draw the FPS to nothing when trying to load a level/scene/texture that requires large memory.
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Are you getting a BLACK SCREEN after loading a rom? Make 100% sure you are using Surreal v1.0 and NOT the gueux.net version. That version is for softmod exploits on newer xbox kernels.
Yes, .ZIP files are supported, aswell as all the known extentions for n64 rom's such as .usa and .v64
A specific rom not showing up on the list?
Please keep in mind this is not a bug or compatibility list. This is merely a help thread getting surreal *Started*. Please post to the appropriate thread if you wish to submit a bug within the emulator.
I will update this post with helpful information as i recieve it.
ok and how am i supposed to edit my /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini <----??? tdata folder or whatever??? im using the geux french version of this surreal thats already on my HD and used your "xiso" method of creating a folder and putting a roms folder inside that folder. then using xiso to make an iso and burned with dvd decryptor . you didnt mention what burning software to use. nero , wouldnt know to burn as iso/image, data???? any help????
Post by: SaveFerris on April 08, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Jan 7 2004, 01:21 PM)
Since there seems to be a million kazillion threads, im going to do this in effort to clean up this forum. If you have a issue with surreal64 loading or playing games read here first, and try any suggestions in relation to your problem. If it is not fixed after trying, then reply with your specific problem.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: mr_chips on April 10, 2005, 01:14:00 PM
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where does Surreal store savestates?
I think some of them may be corrupt and crashing my xbox when I try to save... I don't mean the N64's internal save like the srm or similar file (I want to keep those!). I mean the one that Surreal64 generates when you press 'save state x'
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Dougpr on April 16, 2005, 12:45:00 PM
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I'm having a problem with Surreal64 XXX Beta 2 release. I'm unable to activate controller 3, whether I plug in my cordless controller or the original controller that came with the Xbox. Neither one allows me to change controller 3 from "deactivated" to "activated".
Has anyone else had this problem?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Cubi2k on April 17, 2005, 10:35:00 PM
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Hmm, i noticed a strange thing with Super Mario 64. When i load and start the game, the mem-description tells me that i have about 17MB in the Menu, and 12MB in the game free to use. The free ram decreases more and more, and after about 15min playing the result is a bad freeze :(
I also played Banjo Kazooie and i know that i played about 3-4 hours without a little
issue. Does Surreal have a problem with SM64 ? The Rom seems to be ok (tested on an emulator at pc and with goodn64). There is also no sense in configuring the mem settings, because the ram decrease so or so, indepedent with how much ram i started.
My workaround is, that i always watch my free ram, when it approachs the 2 or 1MB limit, i quicksave the game, unload the game, restart it and load my quicksave. It works, but its a little anoying...
Any idea ?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: brownboi_nayyar on April 18, 2005, 01:38:00 AM
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hi, so i have installed Sureal 64 on my xbox, i was wondering how do i work roms on it.? Do i just transfer my n64 computer roms to my xbox? where do i put the file? sowwy, i'm kind of a noob =(
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: mitch2025 on April 23, 2005, 07:38:00 AM
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i havent found an answer to my problem so ill just ask. ok i couldnt get Surreal to launch so i found this thread and did everything the first post told me to do (like getting a new BIOS, pathing the XBEs) but all it dose is go to the loading screen and then it says "your xbox system cannot read this game disc. it is eather dirty or damaged" but the damn thing isnt even on a disc! iv tryed launching it with Evox, UIX, tHc, and Avalaunch. pls help!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Scoobysnaxx on April 24, 2005, 11:11:00 AM
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EDIT: posted in the wrong thread again. I need to learn to snag quotes better lol
This post has been edited by Scoobysnaxx: Apr 24 2005, 06:17 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: shanezam203 on April 28, 2005, 07:32:00 AM
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Hey I have Ultraxle not surreal64 (a friend modded the xbox) but my n64 roms work fine on my laptop. But they dont work on the xbox. I've tried both file extentions, .n64 and .z64. It looks like the roms load, but I dont get any sound, or picture...
any suggestions? How do I download surreal64 and ftp it over to xbox? I know how to ftp I just need to get the surreal64 file I can ftp over to the xbox and where to put it.
thanks, Shane
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: sesamefrench on April 29, 2005, 02:03:00 AM
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i have the same problem with more games with Surreal64, i use whatever emulator that seems to be working best with the game im playing (1964 for paper mario, ultra for mario64 etc)
ive played around with the paging and dyna mem settings, which gives me more mb's to start with but they decrease anyways until hitting zero and freezing the games
anyways, i didnt have this problem until recently when i started using savestates, maybe it can be result of corrupt savestates? does anyone know how to delete savestates?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on April 30, 2005, 10:53:00 AM
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it wont list my roms,i edited the surreal.ini, my roms are in E:\Roms\ and thats what i set it to. im use krazies uxe
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Robbie_Ice on May 01, 2005, 08:33:00 PM
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Please, please help anyone!
I am using surel64 and I can never get it to work! mad.gif
It wont pic up roms. And also how do I know which roms work with it??
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Tybriah on May 05, 2005, 02:17:00 PM
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I have know idea what the problem is and its driving me nuts!!! I will tell you what I know and its not much - I have a modded xbox and when you load up the xbox a screen appears and says slayers evo-v my choices of emulators can be found in two places 1) self installed emulators or 2) avalaunch. Either one I choose it does the same thing I click to load surreal64 and it says loading... and it brings me back to the slayers page. I went in to the ini file and changed it to point to the roms. I have also changed the extensions of the roms from .usa to .n64 using tool64. This version of surreal came installed with the modded xbox. I have also tried to install it myselfin a whole new directory and it won't even load!! Could someone please help me I have no idea what I'm doing!!!! Thanks for any help
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Xanados on May 06, 2005, 03:44:00 AM
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hi i need help please.
First at all i´m from Germany so please excuse my bad english.
I have read all the forum posting about Surreal64 but i could not find the answer to my problem.
If i want to open a rom it´s just loading, then it flashes for 0.0002secs and then its black again.
But thats only by some games!
Like SuperMario64 or Ocarina of Time.
What can it be?
How can i solve it?
Thanks for your answers!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jvsjmedia.nl on May 12, 2005, 08:11:00 AM
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I have some problems with some roms:
-Banjo Tooie
*All = Black screen
-Conkers Bad Fur Day
*1964 = Only the "older audience only" message appear and after that the game gives black screen.
*Project64/UltraHLE = Black screen
-Donkey Kong 64
*1964 = Stuttering sound
*Project64/UltraHLE = Black screen
-Goldeneye 007
*All = Only the file choose screen stutter, after selecting a file, its oke.
Can somebody PLEASE help me fixing these problems? I BEG YOU...
Especially "Conkers Bad Fur Day" and "Banjo Tooie" I wanted to play...
This post has been edited by jvsjmedia.nl: May 12 2005, 03:16 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Second on May 14, 2005, 07:18:00 PM
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My Surreal 64 won't recognize any roms I put in it. At first I left the surreal.ini to have the rom path be d:\roms, but that didn't work!
So I switched it to all of these:
d:\emulator\surreal64\roms
d:\surreal64\roms
e:\roms
e:\surreal64\roms
e:\emulators\surreal64\roms
and none of them worked. I don't use or have an F drive so that's out of the question. When I changed the .ini file I only did it inside the Surreal 64 folder and not the TDATA folder.
So do I have to do it in both? And if so which do I name the rom path?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jvsjmedia.nl on May 15, 2005, 05:15:00 AM
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Are you sure you have the roms in the /surreal64/roms/ folder?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Zyyke on May 15, 2005, 09:25:00 AM
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Changing your surreal.ini in the Surreal64 folder has no effect. All settings in the surreal.ini is loaded into the cache (TDATA folder) the first time you start Surreal. Future changes/configuration is saved in that copy of the .ini file. Editing the surreal.ini in the emulator folder does nothing.
The easiest way to to solve this "problem" is to clear your cache. This is easily done by locating your Surreal 64 gamesave using your MS Dash Gamesave manager, and delete it. Then changes done to the "original" surreal.ini will be loaded into the cache when you start Surreal. Refersh your rom list, and everything should be a-ok.
I suggest you use e:\[path of your emulator]\ROMs. If your emulator is located in e:\emulators\surreal64\ I would use e:\emulators\surreal64\roms as your rom-path.
You could also do some reading in the Beginners Guide. Ths guide contains a link to a "how-to" on configuring emulators (including surreal 64).
Good luck!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Second on May 15, 2005, 01:10:00 PM
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Can't I just delete it through FTP? Or does it not "fully" get rid of the file.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: KevKevKev on May 15, 2005, 07:59:00 PM
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Does Surreal64 have the option to change the screen size like Xsnes and NeoGenesis?
When playing Surreal64 games the game is zoomed in a bit too much and I can't figure out how to change the display! Dohhh
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: iggyemu on May 16, 2005, 11:09:00 PM
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I am having problems getting Surreal64 to load the roms. I have read through most of this stuff. I have the emulator and roms on my G drive. I have editted the ini file to reflect that and I understand that editting that particular ini does nothing and that I must edit the one on the E drive in the TData folder....problem is there is no ini file there. When I find the surreal64 folder in the TData folder the only files there are Favourites.dat and RomlistCache.dat
I have ran Surreal64 and there still isn't an ini file in there.
Here is the path on E drive that I am viewing /E/TDATA/a64fea57/
Any help would be appreciated.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: HoRnEyDvL on May 19, 2005, 10:37:00 PM
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Well installed latest version of surreal xxx on my 128mb box loaded it up selected my roms works perfect. only thing i noticed is there is a mem leak, shouldnot be 2 hard 2 fix let it leak 2 0mb dump the ram & open it with a hex editor u should see whats been loaded into ram. might do it when i have time.
Just a quick question any 1 got a settings list for 128mb xbox that helps you gets roms 2 play better eg. golden eye 007 ,perfect dark, bamjo kazooe, zelda ect.
If not be awesome if some 1 could get 1 up.
Ill let u guys know what i find.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Dolfhin on May 22, 2005, 09:32:00 AM
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I've been away for a while, is Surreal XXX still under development? And if it's then what't the latest status?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: xYxExAxHx on May 22, 2005, 09:46:00 PM
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im prolly going get bullshit for this question i always do but anyway i loaded surreal 64 on my xbox it works perfectly.hers my problem i have no clue how to ftp roms onto my xbox. im not a to big of a noob when it comes to ftping because i have expience in doing so from when i had to change default.exb to .bak.what im trying to say is i need to no step by step where to go and put the roms. if any one cud do so in detail plz
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: c0ncept on May 23, 2005, 12:32:00 PM
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I noticed rice 6.1.1 has been released. However when I unrared it, it was full of dll files, are these compatible with surreal xxx (I don't think they are but I thought I'd ask :) )? If not is there an xbox compatible version of rice 6.1.1 and can you post a link please.
Paul
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Sosha on May 23, 2005, 01:16:00 PM
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Someone please for the love of god tell me how to use downloaded save files (.n64) with surreal.
someone mentioned before you need to rename the file to that of the rom (with the .n64 extension) and but it in the E:\saves directory but where exactly? surreal hasnt created a directory in there so im lost basically
thanks
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: mvyvoda on May 24, 2005, 06:35:00 PM
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oh man, i hate doing this.... but, this page is ridiculous... i mean, 37 pages. it's impossible to find anything specific. well, i am running surreal64, did the goodwindows thing, all my roms are showing up.
my problem is after i select which rom to run, the screen turns black, and nothing happens. i have to get off of my lazy ass and reset the box (need to mod my controller for a reset button!).
plz help!?
thanks,
mark
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: wacco on May 25, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
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Try deleting the Surreal64 savegames from the Tdata/Udata folder and try again-. If still no luck, then try deleting the Surreal64 main folder with every contents and re-upload your roms and contents of folder.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: mvyvoda on May 25, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
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hmm, where can i find the actual savegames in the TDATA/UDATA folders?
thanks a ton,
mark
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: intheb0x on May 25, 2005, 03:47:00 PM
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no matter what i do i still dont have any roms inside sureal 64, i changed the names, i have changed the .ini, i have done everything and still no roms, this is tarting to be a pain, i can use 1964 no problem by itself but when i try to use surreal i NEVER have any roms show up and everything is right on the settings, what the hell could be the problem?
thanks
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DT778 on June 02, 2005, 01:29:00 AM
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If the rom you downloaded is a v7 file then you need to use 7zip to extract it. I don't know if thats a problem for you but that fixed mine.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: mvyvoda on June 02, 2005, 07:21:00 PM
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none of them were v7 files... still nothing :-/
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: c0ncept on June 04, 2005, 07:58:00 AM
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It happens to me a lot, I just assumed it was because surreal just can't run it yet.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: j4y3m on June 05, 2005, 05:32:00 PM
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Can anyone help me get these games running properly?
I'm using Surreal 64 XXX (B3) and a lot of games don't seem to work that well, they boot but either have frame rate issues or seem out of control (GoldenEye).
Can someone post the best setting for GoldenEye 007, Perfect Dark and WWF No Mercy...
I've searched the forum but didn't really find much that would help...
This post has been edited by j4y3m: Jun 6 2005, 12:43 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DeathR1derX on June 07, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
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ok i have a problem with surreal 64 i switched the path of where the surreal 64 thing should look for n64 roms and i put everything down perfectly and its still not finding roms also my roms have an ending of like .7z or something like that
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jonathan2007 on June 09, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
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Yeah I just tried GoldenEye (didn't wanna bust out my N64) and it was all screwy. I am using some XXX release (I think it is pretty current). Oh well though I may just have to bring out my n64 and play the game old style. It was a great game! :popcorn:
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: foog on June 12, 2005, 11:22:00 AM
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alright, just got the latest surreal xxx b4. what are the best settings for you guys on these games?
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time
Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask
1080
thanks for any help.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Phrosty on June 18, 2005, 08:54:00 AM
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All right, I'm using Surreal 64 and I'm trying to play Ogre Battle 64. It starts up fine with 1964 and PJ64, but then it get's to the intro scene. <Right, after you create a new game.> And it completely freezes up. I can't even go into to my emulator options when this happenes. If you could please help this problem it would be great!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Big Al on June 18, 2005, 12:29:00 PM
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Add Mario Tennis for me. Both 1965 and PJ start out slow and then lock up. The third emulator doesn't even run.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Ryouga on June 19, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
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i'm also using XXX b4 and ultrahle doesn't work for any games i've tried either, right now i've attempted to play kirby 64 with all 3 and 1964 and PJ64 do work, though there is lagging, occasional freezing and texture errors. i guess i'll try some of the tips for finding the right amount of memory to use. still no luck with ultrahle
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Iriez on June 20, 2005, 12:11:00 PM
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ultrahle only works for a limited amount of games. Try mario 64 with it, and it should run it fine.
If you are not able to run kirby, then most likely you have a bad rom. Have you used good tools to find out which rom you have?
I could always play kirby fine (with the normal textual errors and crashes =p ). Then again, i havnt tried the new xxx beta's ...so im not sure.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Ryouga on June 20, 2005, 05:02:00 PM
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i will check my rom as soon as i can and see what comes up. while kirby works with 1964 and PJ64, i noticed that random spots in the game will go down to 2fps while once you get into other spots it will rise to 26fps and cut scenes usually at 50fps, is this a possible problem with my rom or have you seen similar errors?
EDIT:
oh, i don't know if this makes any difference but when i installed surreal64 i only edited the surreal ini to point to my roms, i left the ultrahle ini alone. was i supposed to edit it or something? i assumed i wouldnt have to because nothing about that was mentioned so i just left it as is.
This post has been edited by Ryouga: Jun 21 2005, 12:07 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Ryouga on June 20, 2005, 05:34:00 PM
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oh, and i know if i need to re-edit surreal.ini i need to go into TDATA and use that surreal10.ini file or whatever, but i was wondering if the ultralhe.ini file you have to edit is the one in the surreal XXX directory, or if it also made a copy that had to be edited instead. just wondering in case i mess up my ultralhe.ini, i wouldnt want to be wasting my time re-editing an INI that isnt used.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: PENiX on June 24, 2005, 12:13:00 PM
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Hey, quick question here... I did controller settings in the romlist of Surreal 64 and set all 4 controllers to "Enable", specifically for the game "Star Fox". The problem is when I go to Versus mode, only 2 players show up (for each of the different gametypes)... I have no idea why it won't allow all 4. I was thinking 4 player mode might be an unlockable, but I can't be too sure because I bought Star Fox 64 (the cartridge) used, a long time ago, and everything on it was already unlocked.
Anyone else have this problem or have a solution? I've tried removing the savedata and there isn't much else for me to try.
If you can help, thanks.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Ryouga on June 24, 2005, 04:03:00 PM
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do you know if the game supports 4 players? if the original game does not, i doubt the rom will either.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 27, 2005, 02:09:00 AM
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It did, but I think it did have to be unlocked.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: manalicream on June 27, 2005, 10:07:00 AM
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Hi complete n00b here
I have an xbox with an enigmah chip in it. After taking ages to work out how to change my dashboard, I then discover that surreal64 wont load. it either freeses on now loading screen with evox or goes to a blank screen on other dashboards. It never actualyl enters the emu itself. I have tried other emus and they work.
On the front page it suggests i may need to patch the emu, but i have no idea how to.
So, if you can help that would be great. I have a lot of roms i wanna play!!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: tuna629 on June 27, 2005, 11:13:00 PM
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Hi all, I'm new to the forum, and I'm also new to Surreal 64.
When i use surreal 64 (installed from a xbox boot disk i found online), it works flawlessly. The question i have is that what format does Surreal 64? When i checked in the folder with roms that came with the boot disk, they are in ".zip" format. And I've also uploaded a rom unto my xbox ("Super Smash Bros") in the extension of ".rom". It loads and everything, but it was extremely slow to the point that i couldnt even play it. And when i load the game, there was an option of choosing "1964" or other emulators, i choose the one in the middle since it's the only one that loads Super Smash Bros. But the games that came with the boot disk ("Mario Kart" "Mario 64" etc) works perfectly with any of the emus in Surreal 64. So what's the problem here?
Second question, I've recently downloaded several N64 roms in the extension of ".7z", and when i decompressed them i found out that the extension is ".z64". I tried to use them in Surreal 64, but it doesnt work; in fact Surreal doesnt even recognize them as games. So what other formats(extensions) are supported by Surreal? Is there any way for me to convert .z64 to .rom? Thanks in advance.
This post has been edited by tuna629: Jun 28 2005, 06:15 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: serious samzors ultra 1337 on June 28, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
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I was wondering where your n64 save files are located on the xbox hard drive. I've been playing paper mario and zelda on my pc and want to send the saves over to my box to continue them, but I have no idea where the hell it stores your saves.
Thanks.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: lancerx on June 30, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
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quote=tuna629,Jun 28 2005, 06:48 AM]
Hi all, I'm new to the forum, and I'm also new to Surreal 64.
When i use surreal 64 (installed from a xbox boot disk i found online), it works flawlessly. The question i have is that what format does Surreal 64? When i checked in the folder with roms that came with the boot disk, they are in ".zip" format. And I've also uploaded a rom unto my xbox ("Super Smash Bros") in the extension of ".rom". It loads and everything, but it was extremely slow to the point that i couldnt even play it. And when i load the game, there was an option of choosing "1964" or other emulators, i choose the one in the middle since it's the only one that loads Super Smash Bros. But the games that came with the boot disk ("Mario Kart" "Mario 64" etc) works perfectly with any of the emus in Surreal 64. So what's the problem here?
Second question, I've recently downloaded several N64 roms in the extension of ".7z", and when i decompressed them i found out that the extension is ".z64". I tried to use them in Surreal 64, but it doesnt work; in fact Surreal doesnt even recognize them as games. So what other formats(extensions) are supported by Surreal? Is there any way for me to convert .z64 to .rom? Thanks in advance.
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Read here for games that works and wich emulator is the best.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=260140
About the ext, well, z64 or v64 should work fine, 7z won't.
This post has been edited by lancerx: Jun 30 2005, 05:13 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: lancerx on June 30, 2005, 10:58:00 AM
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Use the xbox save manager to see if it is stored on E, and by the way, i don't think that pc saves can be loaded on the xbox, see, pc emulator saves different than xbox, well no so sure about it, meybe you can convert and save into de xbox.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: heemid on July 03, 2005, 11:44:00 PM
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Anyone have Mario Cart or Diddy kong racing working with 4 players? I enable the 3 & 4 player but they don't work in the game, it there an ini file or something I need to change, thanks
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Dark Drake on July 07, 2005, 06:56:00 PM
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i put this in apps and its not showing in xbox media center. whats the deal?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: GametagAeonFlux on July 08, 2005, 04:06:00 PM
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Where do you put savegames/where does Surreal_64 store the savegames?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: GametagAeonFlux on July 08, 2005, 06:47:00 PM
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Yes, atleast it worked for me.
And as for the saves, XBSM doesn't show anything but the Surreal64 directory, and putting things there doesn't do anything.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Versitile on July 11, 2005, 03:29:00 AM
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for some reason all my game saves for all my surreal games have disapeared. Is there any way I can get them back and what could have caused this. I havent deleted any of the folders. And it seems the ini files are still there but when I start the game my save is not there.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Uraiser on July 16, 2005, 06:09:00 PM
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Im having a very bad problem with surreal64. First off, when i go into E:\ to the one folder with letters and numbers.. i cant remember it first hand, anyway its supposed to have the surreal.ini in it.. But its never there. I cant launch surreal without it freezing, and i got it with the auto installer v2. All of my other emulators work fine. And also, i have one question.. When i downloaded LOZ ocarina of time, was i supposed to leave it in the rar archive, or was I supposed to unzip it..?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Ownedc4 on July 21, 2005, 03:28:00 AM
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My xbox was modded, and surreal was allready installed. The games where all in the roms folder, in zip files, so you cant play them from the emulator, BUT you can run the emulator no GAMES show up. Do i have to unzip them? I tryed unzipping one. Conkers bad fur day, and i put it in the roms folder. It didnt show up. Right now the emulator wont load it freezes on the loading screen of my dash. Its probally got to do with what i did in the .ini accidentally. Heres a paste from my .ini. ..... my media, and rom files are in the surreal folder.. example.. "/F/Apps/Emulators/n64/Roms" "/F/Apps/Emulators/n64/media"
[Settings]
Rom Path=F:\Roms
Media Path=F:\Media
Default Controller Config=00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17
Default 1964 Dyna Mem=8
Default 1964 Paging Mem=4
Default PJ64 Dyna Mem=16
Default PJ64 Paging Mem=4
Default Use LLE RSP=1
Default Max Video Mem=5
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Dalpura on July 24, 2005, 03:14:00 AM
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Righto. I'm in a spot of trouble, hence posting. So any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
The other day I decided I want to play some N64 roms again, so I got a copy of Surreal64 FDB V4, as I'd deleted my old copy whaterver version that was a while ago. So I go to play a rom, chose the emulator, (1964, Project64, Ultra) and it seems to load, but just takes me back to the rom list. But doesn't show any names, but you can still navigate, see the names and covers and such. I tried another version of Surreal64, version 1.0 I believe it was. Did the same thing. Now it's odd, because whatever version I had running last time worked fine. So what would the problem be? And how would I go about fixing it?
Cheers.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DirtyMonkey on July 28, 2005, 01:47:00 PM
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Hey Guys Can U Send Me the link for Sureal 64 XXX Download. I Look For Hours And I Cant Find It.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Xmod_beginner on July 28, 2005, 07:37:00 PM
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its at the usual places, man
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Darklord89 on July 29, 2005, 03:36:00 AM
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Hi all, I am trying to put surreal 64xxx on to my xbox, well i have put all of the files into the E drive under apps/emulations, is ths the right place to put it?
When i go on to my xbox i carnt see it...Its really frustrating.
Any help?
I have a evoX dashboard (softmodded).
It isnt my FTP playing up cuz ive uploaded things succesfully loads of times and its says success.
Thanks alot.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Darklord89 on July 29, 2005, 05:31:00 AM
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Whats wrong?
Thx.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: scotty g on July 31, 2005, 03:48:00 PM
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i have a problem. it wont play .v64 files but it will play .rom files. ive tried different .v64 files but none of them load. the only file that loads is one .rom (zelda OOT)
any help would be appreciated, thanks
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: 007ohmss on August 01, 2005, 11:10:00 AM
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Hi Again, I haven`t write in years, and my english still stinks...
My question is: I play Mario Kart 64 (ok) but when i "connect" the mempack, the game says something like it`s full... how can i delete the data in the mempack?
Sorry, but ì looked and didn`t find it...
P.S. Can you explain me step by step, like i was 6 years old?
Keep up the MARVELLOUS WORK
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: rcarey on August 01, 2005, 07:09:00 PM
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I'm trying to run Surreal 64 off a CD-RW (my XBOX reads CD-RW's perfectly fine), and I'm also putting the roms on the CD as well.
Anyway, before I start - rest assured I have read this entire thread...but still am not sure what direction to take. All I'm looking for is some helpful advice.
I downloaded the Surreal 64 emulator, and extracted the files into a folder. The Surreal.ini file has the default path for Roms in: D:\Roms\ - so I created a Roms folder to put the Roms in.
Now, perhaps it is a mistake on my part when extracting files for the roms, but I am unzipping the files, and then usually taking the (U) [!].z64 file and putting it into my roms folder. Is this right?
Anyway - once I have my roms in the folder, I make an iso file using Qwix for the entire folder containing the roms folder, default.xbe, .ini files, etc. etc.
I am then burning this iso file as an image using Nero.
Then, when I put the CD into my drive, the Xbox is recognizing the disc as a game, and up comes the surreal 64 screen! So, this is good. However, when I go to the icon on the bottom right-hand of the screen, to load the roms, it will quickly say "Loading Rom list" for a split second, but nothing comes up.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Link267 on August 13, 2005, 11:33:00 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: aswilbourn on August 16, 2005, 10:27:00 AM
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Thats exactly the problem I'm having R carey! Anyone any ideas its driving me mad!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Dude_Son on August 17, 2005, 02:58:00 AM
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Same problem! I have a Xecuter 2.3 with a X2.5031 bios. I have patched the xbe's with both patching programs mentioned earlier in this thread. I even converted all the files into a .iso. I burn with Recordnow Max, but it just hangs at the loading screen. I can get Surreal to work from the HD but not from my DVD-R's... can someone please help me?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: PENiX on August 20, 2005, 12:49:00 PM
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Although the .nfo states that Surreal XXX Beta 4 fixed the loading from DVD bug, i think it still doesn't work.
I have a question. Running Surreal from the hdd, with verified roms, i've been having a problem where the roms will only allow me to have 2 players. Mario Party 3 and Star Fox specifically. I did the normal steps to get it to work, rom settings, controller settings, and enable controller 3 and 4. It saves because each time i load it up the settings are still there. But it only shows up that 2 controllers are plugged in in the rom.
Any ideas?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: vannillabear on August 28, 2005, 08:08:00 AM
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Hi,
I want to edit the surreal.ini file so that its set to default to the best emulator as suggested here Surreal Compatibility Lis and maybe even using the settings suggested here Surreal Performance Settings
Im just looking for some pointers on how to correctly edit it, say for example the mario kart bit looks like this:
Game Name=MARIOKART64
Alternate Title=Mario Kart 64 (U) [!]
Comments=Playable
Preferred Emulator=0
1964 Paging Mem=6
Can someone tell me what number relates to which emulator in Surreal (1964, Project64 and UltraHLE)?
(I think) I can figure out that its also setting the pagin in 1964 to 6 meg, but what other variables are there? Looking through the ini file there are some for Dynamic Mem, Paging Mem and Max Video Mem. How do I correctly use them?
Thanks in advance.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: voodoo721 on August 30, 2005, 06:03:00 PM
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i dont know if this is posted before, but does surreal64 play .z64 files? because they dont show up for me on the list, while .rom and .v64 does.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Barnolde on August 30, 2005, 07:42:00 PM
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I've got the same problem, I've got the 3rd and 4th controllers plugged in, but they just won't move, at all. They don't respond and I've checked the ini files and I don't see anything for this.
4 player worked fine with Surreal 64 regular, but with Surreal 64 XXX, I can only get 2 players to work.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Grinvon on August 31, 2005, 09:21:00 PM
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I have installed and configure Surreal64. It´s run and search all ROMs that I have setted into directory. But it´s dont´run any ROM. Loads the ROM, bring to 100% and the screen window fit in black, and stay in black, don´t execute anymore.
What could be the problem, and how can I solve?
Thanks all! :)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: hyperion916 on August 31, 2005, 11:28:00 PM
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I have roms in ".usa" file type. I tried to use GoodWindows to rename them, but it gives an error when I try to rename them. What am I doing wrong?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: puscifer on September 08, 2005, 10:50:00 AM
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This has probably been posted before, but I couldn't find it by searching. I'm playing Zelda:OOT right now, and for some reason, some of the 2D backdrops (for example, outside the temple of time, or the overhead view when you first enter Hyrule) are corrupted/scrambled looking, while others appear just fine. I'm using the newest Surreal64 XXX with the US 1.2 version of the rom and I've tried all three of the video plugins to no avail. Is there anything that can be done about this? Will changing some setting or using a different version of the rom fix this?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: blackstripes on September 21, 2005, 05:11:00 PM
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Does anyone if its possible for Surreal64 to output 720p or 1080i? I'm able to run 1080i using FCE for my NES games and can also do it with my SNES and Genesis Emulators.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jinn on September 24, 2005, 07:33:00 AM
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question. if i get a ram upgrade and patch the xbe in surreal with "xbe RAM Limit Remover" will game run smoother or is it just a waste of time.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: whosyodaddy1019 on September 25, 2005, 01:58:00 PM
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Im having problems with Surreal displaying right. I have a X3 chip with 3294 Bios. Some screans when I play are fine. Usually the loading screans but when it comes to playing the game I see glitches all over the place. Like with Road Rash 64 the HUD is all messed up. Doesnt display the txt right so I cant read how fast im going, who whiped out and how are ppl are from me. I have tried changing the mem settings but that doesnt seem to do much exept change the speed. Same thing with Cruzin Exotica. I see grafix glitchs thoughout the game. Is this normal or is there something Im doing wrong?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Seven Signz on September 28, 2005, 07:10:00 PM
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Hey... I recently got Sureal, and I put ROMs into the ini/games folder, but it's still saying I don't have any ROMs. I have an Unleash X softmod and I use FTP, not xbins if that means anything. I know you covered this in your first post description of problems, but I don't understand how to fix it AT ALL. Can anyone help explain that to me? :(
This post has been edited by Seven Signz: Sep 29 2005, 02:15 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: bborders33 on October 01, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
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OK, I have gone through this entire post and haven't seen my problem yet. I have Surreal installed, my paths are correct in both ini files, and my roms show up in the list. However, if I click on anything (games, config, settings, ANYTHING) it freezes and I have to reboot to get it back. I am running Krayzies Ndure Softmod on relatively new box. Any suggestions?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jinn on October 05, 2005, 12:30:00 PM
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where do i find the art box for japanese games?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: shadow_blaze on October 06, 2005, 08:12:00 PM
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hey guys i have been searching 4 awhile now and found the compatibility list with surreal64, ive done the settings it told me to but no luck, the game starts and it is really laggy, only runs at 20fps and then just crashes when the mb gets to 0,
could somebody plz help me with this problem cause i love banjo tooie,
cheers
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: TVDX on October 07, 2005, 01:11:00 PM
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I have burned an all in one Surreal 64+67 games ISO downloaded from the net onto a DVD+R and the games run from this.
The X-box loads most of them up fine.
However, when it comes to 2 player in something like DIddy Kong for example or Road Rash, the game squeezes the second player screen down to a narrow view thus making the 1 player slot the only playable. Diddy Long racking works fine with 1 Player.
This was used with 1964 and various different settings on the video memory.
Can anyone help?.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Teforeon on October 12, 2005, 09:17:00 AM
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Hey ... can any1 help me? Im trying to run WCW vs. NWO WORDL TOUR on Surreal 64 ... but when i enter the game it appears with black screen ... but the game is playing cause i can hear the sound and can press to change for mem card and rumble pak ... it occurs both with 1964 and PJ64 ... UltraHLE don't run at all ... can any1 help me??
THX :beer:
This post has been edited by Teforeon: Oct 12 2005, 04:23 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DatDude on October 20, 2005, 05:30:00 PM
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im having trouble getting surreal to load up. I tried that dexbe program. I dont know what bios i am running but i am using the evox dashboard. please help
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on October 20, 2005, 05:38:00 PM
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all of you X-S Enthusiast need to use the search feature and TVDX ur gonna get banned if you talk about pirate games thet you downloaded.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DJuniah on October 21, 2005, 07:27:00 AM
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I got this installed and it works GREAT!
although, i was wondering if its possible to import save states and game saves from my PC. I tried looking for where it puts its saves but i couldnt find em anywhere. I saw something about save states in the ultraHLE ini file but thats it
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jimmyj on October 22, 2005, 12:46:00 AM
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hey ive got a bit of a problem all my games load fine in all 3 ems but they take about 5 minutes has anyone encountered this problem before or is it meant too take that long.
Jimmyj
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DatDude on October 22, 2005, 08:08:00 AM
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my eyes are so tired, i just browsed all the pages on gettin surreal to work, this is the second time that ive tried to get this program to run, the full file set and roms show up when i use my file explorer but all the xbes fail to run.
I used dexbe, opened the default.xbe then hit patch to retail version, then clicked save, loaded it to the box with no luck again.
Is there any hope
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DaBiscuit on October 22, 2005, 05:59:00 PM
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Are you using Surreal64 v1.0? If so, try one of the Sureall64 XXX beta versions. They work on some X-Boxes in my experience which won't run the 1.0 version.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: maniac87 on October 23, 2005, 12:03:00 AM
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ok i have an excuter 2.6 ce with bios 5035 and evox 3935 i cannot access d or f by ftp or even by looking in them with wmc what is the problem and how can i fix it
i also tried to run pj64 it runs ok but cannot run the games i tried to put the roms in the place where it tells you to put them but doesnt work already read the it woud not work but tryin to give you as muck info
i am also using retail hd
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DaBiscuit on October 23, 2005, 04:50:00 AM
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Wrong forum.
Do you mean the pj64 that is a part of Surreal64 or the standalone pj64?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Themicles on November 01, 2005, 10:57:00 PM
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I am running a v1.6 Xbox, softmodded with UDE2 with dualboot to either MXM or EvoX, with the EvoX boot overridden with XBMC.
I am using the very latest (at the time of this post) release of Surreal64xxx.
Surreal64 launches. All roms show up. If I launch with 1964, the games run, but don't run properly. ie. Zelda Ocarina of Time has horribly corrupted textures. I tried both PJ64 and UltraHLE, but both load the ROM to a blank screen, and a frozen Xbox.
I've tried reinstalling Surreal64 from scratch, and tried all kinds of combinations of settings to try and get this working properly.
Any ideas?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Js-The-One on November 02, 2005, 02:14:00 PM
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I have a problem here... I was playing Zelda on n64 but a room was all fucked up, so I decided to delete the rom and install it again. When I copied it again, I wasnt able to see it on surreal program. Then, I thinked I needed to re-install the emulator. Thats what I did, didnt worked. Now, I cant even see all other roms of my list, I only see the icon saying 'no art box avalaible' for all of my roms. Someone told me to edit .ini file of surreal. I dont know what he met by that. I already have changed the rom path, I see the roms but I cant load them, I dont know what else to edit.
If someone can tell me exactly what I should do, I would be most grateful.
:blink:
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DeBigMachine on November 04, 2005, 09:56:00 PM
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Hello, i have a softmodded 1.6 Xbox with XBMC as the main dashboard.
When i start up the latest release of surreal, everything works up until it says "loading rom". Afterwards it just freezes and i cant do anything.
Help would be appreciated.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: HeeZy on November 15, 2005, 01:29:00 PM
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i have the same problem.
its trying to load the rom, then resets to the dash. using b4.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Beelzebub1 on November 24, 2005, 06:36:00 PM
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Someone needs to clean this forum up!
OK, I have surreal v1.0, and I am running it from the evox dash. I also have a copy on CD-RW with a few roms on the cd. now, my xbox runs the cd, and I can play very slowly, but when I try to start from the hard drive, the screen is mostly black and shows a few of the box arts, and I can navigate the roms. When I try to start a rom, it freezes. I know Evox is bad idea for Surreal, so what should I use?
This seems like a memory problem, as it does load, but I don't know how to free up memory to make the program run.
I know I might be asleep at the wheel, but we dufuses need help.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: GametagAeonFlux on November 27, 2005, 07:18:00 PM
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I got this installed and it works GREAT!
although, i was wondering if its possible to import save states and game saves from my PC. I tried looking for where it puts its saves but i couldnt find em anywhere. I saw something about save states in the ultraHLE ini file but thats it
I'm looking for an answer to that too. I downloaded a save game from GameFAQs just to see what the file type was...I found a .N64 to answer that question, anyone know where to find those on the Xbox? Or just know how to get save games on there?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: TheSchonk on December 02, 2005, 01:00:00 AM
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I cant get the games to show up. I installed surreal64 xxx in F:\Emulators. I put Legend of Zelda, The Ocarina of Time (U)(v1.2)[!].v64(I renamed it to The Legnd of Zelda so it would fit) in F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms\ and it doesnt show up. So I changed the Surreal ini from Rom Path=D:\Roms\ to Rom Path=F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms\ and still nothing. So then I checked the TDATA to see if there was an ini file but there wasnt. So I changed the ini file back to Path=D:\Roms\ and this is where im at.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: TheSchonk on December 02, 2005, 02:30:00 AM
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I cant get the games to show up. I installed surreal64 xxx in F:\Emulators. I put Legend of Zelda, The Ocarina of Time (U)(v1.2)[!].v64(I renamed it to The Legnd of Zelda so it would fit) in F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms\ and it doesnt show up. So I changed the Surreal ini from Rom Path=D:\Roms\ to Rom Path=F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms\ and still nothing. So then I checked the TDATA to see if there was an ini file but there wasnt. So I changed the ini file back to Path=D:\Roms\ and this is where im at.
Never Mind
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: TheSchonk on December 02, 2005, 06:41:00 AM
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I cant get the ocarina of time to show up. When I transfer it to my xbox it fails because the file name is to long. I shortend the name and shortend the name in the ini file in the tdata and in the surreal 64 file. I have no clue what i am doing. How do you setup games with names that are to long?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: TheSchonk on December 02, 2005, 05:58:00 PM
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The rom isnt zipped. The exact name of the copy was the same in the ini file so should I still try to find a diffrent copy. And what is a CRC checksum.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: TheSchonk on December 02, 2005, 08:08:00 PM
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Thanks Ill give that a try.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: SmifNWessun on December 03, 2005, 02:19:00 AM
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I'd also like to add my setup
The roms, media and skins folders are all on the root directory as well as
default.xbe
PJ64-531.xbe
PJ64-510.xbe
PJ64-560.xbe
Project64X.rdb
1964-531.xbe
1964-510.xbe
1964-560.xbe
UltraHLE.xbe
RiceDaedalus5.1.0.ini
RiceDaedalus5.3.1.ini
RiceDaedalus5.6.0.ini
1964.ini
surreal.ini
ultra.ini
temp.ini
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: SmifNWessun on December 04, 2005, 01:41:00 PM
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Never mind, it works now with GDFimage.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: CSJimmy on December 04, 2005, 08:25:00 PM
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i've tried just about everything previously mentioned but my roms still aren't showing up in surreal64. any ideas?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: SteelFox15 on December 09, 2005, 09:33:00 AM
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Okay, so every time I start up Surreal64, I get a black screen. At first I thought it was just hanging, but then I realized that it was loading, but the menu wouldn't show up. I can use the D-Pad to navigate around and find my roms, but only part of the name shows up. Sorry if this is hard to visualize, but basically the screen is completely black until I start moving the D-Pad around. Then part of the rom name shows up and I can select it and play it, but I still can't navigate through any menus.
When I click the right thumbstick during the game, the in-game menu shows up (Save state, Load state, Display Debug Info, etc), but I can't see which option I have selected, making it kind of hard to do anything.
Anyone know what could be wrong? Thanks for any help.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: SteelFox15 on December 09, 2005, 11:25:00 AM
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Nevermind, I think I figured out the problem. Somehow the ui folder never got copied over to the HDD.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: bigshooter13 on December 11, 2005, 04:18:00 PM
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This has probably been posted before, but I couldn't find it by searching. I'm playing Zelda:OOT right now, and for some reason, some of the 2D backdrops (for example, outside the temple of time, or the overhead view when you first enter Hyrule) are corrupted/scrambled looking, while others appear just fine. I'm using the newest Surreal64 XXX with the US 1.2 version of the rom and I've tried all three of the video plugins to no avail. Is there anything that can be done about this? Will changing some setting or using a different version of the rom fix this?
Boy this thread seems like solid questions with no answers. I am having this same problem. I read that with previous versions of surreal you could switch the audio plugin and that would fix the "snow" but the latest surreal only has the option of switching to basic audio which doesn't fix the problem. Anyone have a fix for this?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: cRACKmONKEY421 on December 13, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
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I cant get controller ports 3 and 4 to work. I've tried enabling/disabling controllers in surreal 64 menu, switching the controllers around, deleting my surreal 64 xbox save, and deleting and recopying the surreal 64. All controller ports worked properly in the origonal version of surreal 64, but as soon as I started using the XXX version they stopped working. I've read that many people on this forum have the same problem but I haven't found a working solution. Any ideas?
Xbox version 1.0
Bios version iND 2005
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: cRACKmONKEY421 on December 14, 2005, 04:24:00 PM
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Here's a little update after some testing with surreal XXX 4.9beta:
Mario Kart works fine with all 4 controllers
The following games I have only been able to use with 2 controllers:
StarFox 64
Goldeneye 007
Mario Tennis
Others haven't been tested yet. All of those roms worked fine in Surreal 1.0 with all 4 controllers. Anyone else get similar results or know how to fix this?
Other than that everything works great. Massive slowdowns are still an issue in a lot of games except with Rice 5.31 plug-in
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Dirvance on December 18, 2005, 08:39:00 AM
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Surreal won't display textures right. On games that do work certain textures are missing (like fonts, whole menus, any "special effect" etc.).
In certain games one emulator will display all textures but stutter like crazy, then one will display most textures maybe stutter on the intro but gameplay will run smooth, and then one emulator won't load the game at all.
So from what i have read in this thread will adjusting the DYNA REC and PAGING MEM help Surreal display these textures properly? Also will they help games that don't run at all run?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: sototallyfast on December 25, 2005, 01:38:00 AM
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Hey everyone!
I'm running Surreal64, and was playing Mario64 on my softmodded xbox. I havent had any other problems with the game, and got around 10-15 stars no problem. After I turned off my xbox and played the game a few weeks later, my save game data was lost, and for some reason, a random cheat where I have 100 lives, and the wing hat all the time (with huge jumps) was permanently on the game, regardless of the emulator I used or the save game slot (a,b,c,or d, all were empty).
Im thinking I might not have exited Surreal correctly (by exiting to the rom list, and then leaving surreal) for the game to start (if you even need to do that), but I dont understand why the save game was lost. Any clues?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Palmtree on December 27, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
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Boy this thread seems like solid questions with no answers. I am having this same problem. I read that with previous versions of surreal you could switch the audio plugin and that would fix the "snow" but the latest surreal only has the option of switching to basic audio which doesn't fix the problem. Anyone have a fix for this?
I have the same problems as well. Also, I noticed a few other problems, like some of my hearts in the top left disappearing or showing the wrong amount of remaining hearts, and certain maps in the bottom right don't show your position (lost woods comes to mind, maybe even all dungeons even if you have a compass.)
I have just upgraded from a very early version of surreal64 to surreal64xxx beta 4.9, and aside from the problems mentioned above, I think it's great. Text and colors are much more crisp, and it seems much more stable with most of the games I have tried. Hopefully another version will be out soon, or someone finds a fix for these problems in the current version (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: HiPNoTyQ on December 28, 2005, 10:36:00 PM
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Zelda oot and mm are the only games I cant get working (besides res evil 2). Im running Surreal XXX (latest version) and trying them on 1964 to no avail, ive tried messing around with the memory and setting it high and stuff, but no luck.
I'm using Zelda oot 1.2
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ryker on December 30, 2005, 05:36:00 AM
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Anyone know what size the dashboard thumbnail needs to be. I'm trying to change the one that came with surreal64 and I can't get it to the right size.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: AbRASiON on December 30, 2005, 11:11:00 PM
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Zelda oot and mm are the only games I cant get working (besides res evil 2). Im running Surreal XXX (latest version) and trying them on 1964 to no avail, ive tried messing around with the memory and setting it high and stuff, but no luck.
I'm using Zelda oot 1.2
It just plain doesn't work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) you need the PC emulator - the Xbox N64 emulation side of things is dead.
The people who write Surreal 64X FDB thingo need to patch up their relationship with the PJ64 folk - but (iirc) there's some kind of pissy-fit in the emulation scene so everyone hates everyone and we all lose out.
Sad.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: HiPNoTyQ on January 06, 2006, 09:44:00 AM
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but theres a bunch of ppl that already said in this forum that they got zelda 64 working?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Thraxen on January 06, 2006, 04:10:00 PM
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Have you tried switching Rice Plug-ins? The latest Surreal lets you choose which one to use and I've found that many of the games run better if you use one of the older plug-ins.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: noya on January 09, 2006, 09:55:00 AM
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I've been having probs with Zelda ooc too.
I tried all versions of surreal and apart from v1.0 none of them display properly inside houses etc with the zoom out view. But 1.0 crashes a lot :/ I've also tried with 1.0! and 1.1! rom versions. Any ideas how to get it runing ok?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: mr_foot on January 10, 2006, 11:12:00 PM
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QUESTION: Controller problems with Surreal64 XXX
Firstly, I'd like to apologize if this question has already been answered. I looked through about 13 pages (out of 43) in this thread and also searched the forums with Google, but had no luck. Here's what is happening to me:
I've got BOTH Surreal64 v1.0 AND Surreal64 XXX beta v4-9.
Surreal64 v1.0 works fine, but Surreal64 XXX beta v4-9 does NOT recognize my controller AT ALL, no matter what port I plug it into. I saw that some people were having problems when they were plugged into Port 2, well I am having the same problem with all the ports.
If anyone has come across a solution to this problem, please post here.
Thanks a lot.
PS I've got a controller Type S if that makes a difference. Don't have the other kind to try out...
- mr_foot
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jtardiou on January 11, 2006, 03:35:00 PM
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Here's a little update after some testing with surreal XXX 4.9beta:
Mario Kart works fine with all 4 controllers
The following games I have only been able to use with 2 controllers:
StarFox 64
Goldeneye 007
Mario Tennis
Others haven't been tested yet. All of those roms worked fine in Surreal 1.0 with all 4 controllers. Anyone else get similar results or know how to fix this?
Other than that everything works great. Massive slowdowns are still an issue in a lot of games except with Rice 5.31 plug-in
Hey for the games you tested with Surreal64xxxb_4.9,
what did you run them with? what rice plugins? etc
Thanks!
PS: I also sent you a PM regarding this, in case you don't check this thread again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: PirateElf on January 14, 2006, 01:43:00 AM
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I guess I shall try here and see what kind of answers I get. I have a 1.6 Xbox softmodded with the latest evolution dash. I also have surreal xxx beta 4 or whichever the newest one is. My problem is thus:
The load time for any game is almost unreal. At a clocked time of about 10 solid minutes before the xbox stops saying "Loading rom" to it actually loading the rom. I have deleted the game save, tried a full re-install. Nothing takes forever.
Also I was reading that this version broke the turok series but if anyone is kind enough perhaps they know the settings to make Turok Ragewars run? Any emulator? I always get locked up on it.
Thanks for the support
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Link527 on January 14, 2006, 03:53:00 PM
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Thanks for the great post, Iriez. Your first entry filled in all the gaps for me.
Just wanted to say that not all patcher programs work the same way; the dexbe patched perfectly when the other programs didn't. (Oh, sure, those programs would say they worked, but they didn't.)
Everything is going great for me now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Hola a todos , era para comentar que yo hace pocos dias compre un juego (emulador) de nintendo 64 que se llama surreal 64, en este juego he jugado casi todos los juegos, aunque en algunos juegos, no puedo jugarlos, n realidad no se porque, bueno al punto, hay un juego en este emulador que se llama the legend of zelda majoras mask, bueno en este juego todo iva bien hasta que me di cuenta que la aguja del reloj que marca el tiempo cuando estas jugando y te dice la hora, que es fundamental en este juego, no esta me gustaria saber porque? y como se puede solucionar, o donde comprar un juego igual que pueda jugar este juego ya que me gusta mucho. Sin mas que decir, me gustaria que me mandaran un mail con la respuesta mi direccion de correo es: [email protected]. ahh y soy de caracas - venezuela.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: PirateElf on January 15, 2006, 02:15:00 AM
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Hola a todos , era para comentar que yo hace pocos dias compre un juego (emulador) de nintendo 64 que se llama surreal 64, ..........
I wish I spoke that... (off topic but still)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: XBCube on January 15, 2006, 01:49:00 PM
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i seem to only be able to play games with 2 controllers on 4 player games. is there support for more than 2 controllers, or could it be something on my end?
nvm, you have to enable the controllers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) how retarded
This post has been edited by XBCube: Jan 15 2006, 10:33 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Faid1 on January 27, 2006, 06:34:00 PM
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Anyone know some good settings to play goldeneye? or any game for that matter?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Speil on January 29, 2006, 03:38:00 PM
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http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=485341
Please Help
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Jer4251 on February 02, 2006, 02:05:00 AM
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No matter what i do, my N64 roms will not show up, i've removed the folder in the tdata and udata and rerouted my roms and made sure they were all in the right place. and nothing. wont show up. ive messed with the surreal.ini and it never finds my roms, i've tried for a few days now. what should i do now? I'm running evox 3935 and xbmc to run the emulators. my other emulators all work fine.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Thraxen on February 02, 2006, 02:11:00 AM
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No matter what i do, my N64 roms will not show up, i've removed the folder in the tdata and udata and rerouted my roms and made sure they were all in the right place. and nothing. wont show up. ive messed with the surreal.ini and it never finds my roms, i've tried for a few days now. what should i do now? I'm running evox 3935 and xbmc to run the emulators. my other emulators all work fine.
Delete your Surreal game save and get a fresh copy of the emulator. Don't edit anything in the ini file. Then install the emulator and put your ROMS in a folder named "Roms" in the emulator install directory.
So, for example, if you have Surreal installed here: F:\Emulators\Surreal\
Then put your roms here: F:\Emulators\Surreal\Roms\
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: bigdoo on February 02, 2006, 05:12:00 PM
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Did you try the refresh button in the bottom right of the rom list screen?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: goleafsgo_21 on February 02, 2006, 09:08:00 PM
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OK I have surreal installed on my xbox
in the surreal.ini file i have a bunch of code that looks like this
[Settings]
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
Default Controller Config=00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0
A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,
16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17
Default 1964 Dyna Mem=8
Default 1964 Paging Mem=4
Default PJ64 Dyna Mem=16
Default PJ64 Paging Mem=4
Default Use LLE RSP=0
Default Use Basic Audio=0
Default Max Video Mem=4
[001A3BD0-AFB3DE1A-C:46]
Game Name=TARZAN
Alternate Title=Disney's Tarzan (F) [!]
Comments=Playable - No Sound
Preferred Emulator=0
[0198A651-FC219D84-C:50]
Game Name=FIFA 99
Alternate Title=FIFA 99 (E) [!]
Comments=Playable - Slightly slow
... and it goes on
...my question is?
What do all the listings for games mean does my title of my surreal game need to match that exactly.
Also if anyone could point me to a guide for installing n64 roms to the hard drive it would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Jayson745 on February 08, 2006, 08:57:00 AM
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I finally got my modded xbox the day before yesterday. I didn't do it myself because I still can't even grasp most of the stuff you guys are talking about on xs(it might as well be in spanish). The biggest reason I got the xbox done is for n64. Now it sounds like theres alot of problems with that emulator.
When I pick a game(usually a few versions of each) it brings me to choose what to launch with(1964,PJ64, or UltraHLE) and I understand that which one is alot of trial and error to find one working. And I saw that someone on MS is building a compatability list. But then if I pick 1964 or PJ64 it asks what plug-in to use Rice 5.10,5.31, or 5.60. As you can see that makes a rediculous amount of combinations and most of them take me to a black screen. Got a few to work though.
My QUESTION: what is a plug-in/rice and is one better than another so I can cut my launch combinations down and mabey get a few more of these games working? The list compiled on MS does not say anything about plug-in or rice anything. I know this is probably a dumb question but I loved the n64 system and am about to play mario64(1 of 3 games I got to work so far) while I wait for a responce (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: timdog82001 on February 10, 2006, 02:10:00 AM
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Hola a todos , era para comentar que yo hace pocos dias compre un juego (emulador) de nintendo 64 que se llama surreal 64, en este juego he jugado casi todos los juegos, aunque en algunos juegos, no puedo jugarlos, n realidad no se porque, bueno al punto, hay un juego en este emulador que se llama the legend of zelda majoras mask, bueno en este juego todo iva bien hasta que me di cuenta que la aguja del reloj que marca el tiempo cuando estas jugando y te dice la hora, que es fundamental en este juego, no esta me gustaria saber porque? y como se puede solucionar, o donde comprar un juego igual que pueda jugar este juego ya que me gusta mucho. Sin mas que decir, me gustaria que me mandaran un mail con la respuesta mi direccion de correo es: [email protected]. ahh y soy de caracas - venezuela.
What he's asking is....he has surreal 64, he can play most games fine, but when playing the legend of zelda majora's mask, the clock hand, an essential part of the game, isn't there. He wants to know how to fix this problem if posible. His email is [email protected].
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: timdog82001 on February 10, 2006, 02:20:00 AM
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I have v1.0 for xbox and the program launches fine, and it finds my games, but freezes if i try to go into the settings, credits, or open a game. The only thing i can do is move the cursor around, and switch between the view style of the games. Pressing A on anything else freezes it. I had the hacked version before by accident. (I deleted the TDATA files and all that jazz) Before with the hacked version, the program would load and you could navigate it without a hitch (though it had the frequent freezing at game loading) Anybody have any suggestions?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Harlock_Gbase on February 10, 2006, 05:08:00 AM
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i seem to only be able to play games with 2 controllers on 4 player games. is there support for more than 2 controllers, or could it be something on my end?
nvm, you have to enable the controllers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) how retarded
well, that trick does not work for me unfortunately. Whichever game i take i can enable the controllers how much i want, it never works. As soon as i leave the game to see what's happening the controllers are disabled again. And in fact even if you enable them it doesn't save the setting so when you start up again then you still won't have controller 3+4 working....
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: MikeAkehurst on February 10, 2006, 05:15:00 AM
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Hi.
I have just been given a DVD image with Surreal64 on, along with a number of games. I burnt it to dvd and it all works fine and everything (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But it runs off the DVD. Is there a simple way to move them all onto the xbox hard drive so they will play from there?
Thanks
This post has been edited by MikeAkehurst: Feb 10 2006, 01:18 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: zaboo on March 17, 2006, 09:24:00 PM
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Is there a way to get Fighting Force 64 running. It works fine, but the sound is working and the picture seems to be upside-down. Please!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: SlyBeast on March 28, 2006, 05:29:00 PM
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I have a question. Can this emulator be ran entirely from a DVD-R? I prefer to use this method and have successfully done it with several other emulators using Craxtion 4. When I tried the same method with Surreal, it does nothing after it loads (besides displaying a black screen). If this is not possible, am I able to put the emulator on the hard drive and roms on DVD? Please help me out with this guys, I just can't make this work. I apologize ahead of time if this has already been addressed; this is a huge forum and I could've very easily overlooked it. Thanks for the time.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: thehouse719 on March 30, 2006, 04:09:00 PM
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Alright i got the surreal64 v1.0 on my xbox and im using a evox softmod and i put a zelda rom on my xbox and then when i go to open up the roms in surreal nothing is in there. If anyone could help me that would be greatly appreaciated. either PM me or send me an e-mail at [email protected] or you could just post in here. thanks.
Mike.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: zaboo on April 01, 2006, 08:44:00 AM
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^
Refresh the rom list, in the bottom right of the screen there is a button that looks like an arrow going in a circle.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: irishwhip on April 01, 2006, 09:45:00 AM
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if refreshing the rom list doesn't work, go to the ms dash and delete the surreal save.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Dude_Son on April 07, 2006, 03:15:00 PM
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I to wish I could play the Surreal XXX emulator from a DVDR. Is this not possible? I can get the xbox to recognize it as a GAME, but it fails to load everytime. Someone please help us out here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: KnightRyder3714 on April 17, 2006, 09:28:00 AM
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I have a v1.0 xbox softmodded with unleashed 0.38.0515A build 505.
I have Surreal64 installed to:
F:\Emulators\Surreal64\
and my roms are located:
F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms
Surreal wont show my listing of roms.
I have tried editing Surreal.ini to point to the roms but it never seems to find them. They are not zipped up and this is what I have tried so far:
Rom Path=D:\Roms
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Rom Path=F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms
Rom Path=F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms\
Can anyone give me some help please?
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jorwex on April 24, 2006, 04:01:00 PM
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ive been able to launch surreal from my harddrive for a while. my friend let me borrow his disc w/ roms on it and i figured i'd give it a try. ever since then, when i try things from the harddrive, games run really slow...like 1-2 fps.
is there anything that the DVD version mightve written to the harddrive that might conflict w/ the harddrive one i have installed?
i made a copy of the UDATA & TDATA surreal folders on to my pc, and then deleted the ones on my xbox to see if that would fix anything, and its the same.
any ideas?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: unknownmalice on April 25, 2006, 07:03:00 AM
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I had a problem with Surreal 64 1.0 where i could not get the roms to show up(i hadn't edited the .ini before running it) then I found that after running it you had to edit the .ini in your saves folder...so i just overwrote the .ini with the one i had edited in the surreal folder....didnt work well. Surreal wouldn't start after I did that... I deleted the save folder in both tdata and udata...still didnt work...I downloaded surreal xxx 4.9 and replaced the 1.0(editing the .ini beforehand) only to find it still would not load...in the end i ended up deleting the save folders multiple times and editing the .ini just as mane times....only to find that after i deleted the initial save folders that my media setting in the .ini was to e:\media. Works wonderful now, I'll soon be making a DVD with all 64 roms listed with good64, and hope to help out with compatibility lists and such.
I posted this only in hopes that it will help anyone that may have had the same problem(s)
my xbox is as follows:
Softmodded with EvoX Mechassault Save Hack
Bios : EvoX M7(Old, i know...but havent had any problems that i couldnt fix with a couple file edits....)
Xbox Version : 1.5 I believe(the most recent one as of December 2005)
Dashboards used to run(both each time i tried to run it):EvoX 3935+, UnleashX 0.39.0222A Build 572
EDIT:
Dude_Son:
to get DVDR to work in your xbox you must make a iso of the files you wish to put on the dvdr, and it must be an xiso(use an xbox iso creation program)
also make sure whatever game/program you want to run is named default.xbe in the root of the dvdr. After that simply burn the .iso you made to the dvd using nero, achohol or any other prog that will burn a disc image to the dvdr
so you could make a dvdr that will run surreal as soon as it starts, simply make an xiso with surreal and all it's files in the root, put the roms in the default roms folder and you should be good(no need to edit the .ini)
This post has been edited by unknownmalice: Apr 25 2006, 02:15 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jorwex on April 25, 2006, 11:17:00 AM
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so you're saying, change the default e:\media setting in the ini to what it is in my xbox? whats the media folder for?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: sofa king dumb on May 05, 2006, 07:12:00 PM
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hello, when i try to play a game it says saving settinggs then says loading rom 0% and then just goes back to showing the boxarts, it does it on all my games and they all work fine with surrela xxx but they do this on sureal 1.0, please help
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: sofa king dumb on May 06, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
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hello, when i try to play a game it says saving settinggs then says loading rom 0% and then just goes back to showing the boxarts, it does it on all my games and they all work fine with surrela xxx but they do this on sureal 1.0, please help
anyone, please help
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Thraxen on May 06, 2006, 12:42:00 PM
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Try deleting any Surreal saves from the MS dash and then try the emulator again.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: sofa king dumb on May 06, 2006, 08:10:00 PM
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Try deleting any Surreal saves from the MS dash and then try the emulator again.
didnt work,any otheres?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Alvarez89 on May 24, 2006, 12:10:00 PM
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Alright so im sure this problem has already been solved by a million people, but i cant solve it. I got Surreal64 on my xbox, and all the roms are showing up, but they do the 'loading _%" then they just freeze and i got to restart my whole xbox.
My setup is as follows
X2.4983.BIOS
Evox dashboard
Both .ini's (the one in the surreal folder and the one in TDATA) both match
i really dont know what i need to change/fix. Can someone help me? ill keep checkin the forum in the meantime.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: foxxfella on May 24, 2006, 12:22:00 PM
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Alright so im sure this problem has already been solved by a million people, but i cant solve it. I got Surreal64 on my xbox, and all the roms are showing up, but they do the 'loading _%" then they just freeze and i got to restart my whole xbox.
My setup is as follows
X2.4983.BIOS
Evox dashboard
Both .ini's (the one in the surreal folder and the one in TDATA) both match
i really dont know what i need to change/fix. Can someone help me? ill keep checkin the forum in the meantime.
What version of surreal are you using, and what rom are you trying to load? Some games are incompatible and will not run, and even lock up your xbox, so you should refer to the compatibility list. Make sure you are using the correct romsets by checking with goodn64 tool.
This post has been edited by foxxfella: May 24 2006, 07:23 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Trevor spencer on May 24, 2006, 12:36:00 PM
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hi , i have a slight problem , ive just downloaded surreal64 xxx 4.95 beta and installed it everything is working fine but ive noticed on most games the screen is squashed or dosnt fill the screen properly
in emu's like fbaxxx you can posistion the screen with the thumb sticks which is great but i cant seem to find an option for this on surreal
ive noticed on my surreal set up screen the option : generalsettings and unknown specific settings are greyed out ?
any help would be great
Thanks
Trev
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: nsrwin2 on May 28, 2006, 11:05:00 AM
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well, that trick does not work for me unfortunately. Whichever game i take i can enable the controllers how much i want, it never works. As soon as i leave the game to see what's happening the controllers are disabled again. And in fact even if you enable them it doesn't save the setting so when you start up again then you still won't have controller 3+4 working....
I have the same problem, I can't get controller 3 and 4 to work. As mentioned above, enable them won't do anything. Anyone knows how to solve this problem? I realy want to play Mario Party with my friends (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: SCARFACELOU519 on June 03, 2006, 06:52:00 PM
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Ok, I', hoping someone can help me here cause ... in my opinion i royally fucked up cause IM a newb, and I'm learning on the fly. First thing I did was installed Surreal on my E Drive... BTW I use Unleash X. Next, I loaded the emulaotr and had no problems. I didn't have any roms so I downloaded Mario Kart and copied it to my Roms in the F Drive... nothing showed up on the Surreal, so I found this web site... First thing I did was edit the surreal.ini file in the surreal folder... then I realized I had already loaded the emulator and had to go to tdata. So first I created a ROM folder in the Surreal folder. Added Mario Kart... Went to TDATA and edited that file. Loaded Surreal and with no problems or extra loading, Mario Kart was there and playable. In my excitement, I decided to tool with th efolder and moved the ROM folder from the E Drive to the F Drive just cause I lkeep all the roms there... Loaded Surreal again, and Mario Kart disappeared... So i tried moving it back, and nothing... So then I just deleted Surreal altogether with the af64 folder in tdata... alogn with mario kart. Started from scratch. Reinstalled surreal, ran the emulator fine, created the ROM folder in Surreal, added Mario Kart, edited the surreal.ini file, which this time seemed like it had already been edited, and the ni loaded the emulator and still no rom. Keeping in mind that I followed the same steps given in this post, I do not know where to go from here. I keep trying to follow these steps and unfortunately I cannot get it to work. I am very angry at myself for tampering with something for no good reason other than to be a little organized. Please someone help me if possible. Thanks.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: SCARFACELOU519 on June 04, 2006, 11:26:00 AM
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Ok well, I figured out the problem on my own. I ran into another slight problem. At first my ROMS were loading pretty rapidly... but I insstalled a few more roms and for some reason the emulator is taking an extremely long time to load the roms, way longer the nit did before. Can anyone explain this to me or has anyone had a similar problem?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: KeepItStudded on June 04, 2006, 03:41:00 PM
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My problem is that i have done everything you can do for surreal 64 and no matter what my roms do not show up.
changed extensions to.v64
zipped and unzipped files
changed rom and media path correctly
messed with tdata
and after all this roms will still not load
any help would be appreciated
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: micbic on June 05, 2006, 05:53:00 AM
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Make sure your roms are checked with GoodN64 and make sure the roms are compatible via the compatability list.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: foxxfella on June 05, 2006, 01:56:00 PM
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My problem is that i have done everything you can do for surreal 64 and no matter what my roms do not show up.
changed extensions to.v64
zipped and unzipped files
changed rom and media path correctly
messed with tdata
and after all this roms will still not load
any help would be appreciated
Hi
What exactly did you do to the tdata file?
what is your rom path?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: need4speed2006 on June 10, 2006, 12:47:00 PM
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Can someone help me guide me threw on how to make a bootable surrealxxx dvd disc with my games on It so It will boot on my softmodded xbox console. I try to make the boot cd myself with quix and made a ISO out of It and burn It. But when I put the dvd In my softmodded xbox console It won't read It. I manage to get neogenesis to play from dvd with my games on It and that played fantasic. I think I am doing something wrong like In the ini file of surrealxxx. I did change It to D:/ I would be most greatful If someone help me. Thanks very much for your time reading this.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: MAGiC333X on June 12, 2006, 01:52:00 PM
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Hello everyone!
I'm pretty new to the emulation on xbox scene and i'm having a problem:
Games don't load using Surreal64 v1.0, the roms show up and all, but they won't load.
I select a rom, for example Super Mario 64, then i press A and it says: Saving settings, then another thing, then i can see very briefly something with loading and 0%, but it just kicks me back to the menu, like it reboots or something.
I've also tried using SurrealXXX 4.9, roms also showed there, games loaded fine, but then it gives me a black screen (that's why i tried v1.0).
Running x-box modded with Aladdin Advance (Xecuter2 bios), bios version (as stated in the ms-dash): 4980.06. I'm not using Evo-X or any other dash, just M$.
I first burnt SurrealXXX with all the roms onto a DVD, above noted the results. Then burnt the Surreal64 v1.0 to a cd-r (Samsung drive).
The ini setups:
SurrealXXX D:\Roms and D:\Media
Surreal64 v.10: A:\Roms and D:\Media
I believe they are correct (otherwise i shouldn't see any roms etc. right?)
Can someone please help me get this to work?
Thanks in advance!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: mundofr on June 23, 2006, 05:00:00 PM
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Hello, i have problems with The Legend of Zelda the Ocarina of Time cuz i cannot FTP that file cuz it has a very long name, i tried renaming it but surreal wont load it if i rename it :S
What can i do?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: DaBiscuit on June 27, 2006, 10:59:00 AM
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Just change the name of your rom using Windows Explorer. If it won't load when you do that, maybe you changed the extension? It should work.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Dr Feetuss on June 28, 2006, 08:25:00 PM
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I put surreal64 on my soft modded xbox, it shows up under emulators but when i run it, it gets stuck on the "loading sureal64" screen. What do i do?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: micbic on June 30, 2006, 02:24:00 AM
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This problem has happened to me before as well, try deleting the surreal 64 save game from your msdash and then retrying. Worked for me
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ganstadj864 on June 30, 2006, 01:28:00 PM
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Anyone know the perfect settings to play majoras mask. Right now only 1964 with rice 5.31 and how do you tell the difference between the 2 surreals?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: HeeZy on June 30, 2006, 02:56:00 PM
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big thread and search doesn't work so here it goes.
i have my xbox hooked up through HD component video. i use surreal v1.0 and load up mario64, but the screen isn't clear with every game i tried. there are problems with de-interlacing or something?
is there a way to play surreal on an HD TV/Monitor? i have all the HD outputs setting set to On.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: thechitchatter on July 05, 2006, 11:10:00 PM
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i NEED help with this emulator! i cant get it to even detect any ROMS. It says there are none. i refresh the list and STILL, does not work. I have FTPed over the ROM (mario tennis) to my xbox in a folder i made in the emu folder that is called roms. i then change the surreal.ini so that it says this at the first two lines:
[Settings]
Rom Path=F/Apps/Surreal64_FDB_v2/roms
i then restarted my xbox and ran the program and- no roms found (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif) . i refresh - and again, no roms found. if someone could help me with this that would be awsome because i'm over my head here and have no idea what to do.
NOTE: because i was unsure of what to do with rom, i put two things in the ROMS folder:
MarioTennis.7z AND the 7z unzipped in a folder called Mario Tennis. i'd also like to kno about that.
Help would be greatly appreciated!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: iagorh on July 06, 2006, 07:53:00 AM
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Well,I tried to play Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, and Jet Force Gemini on my Surreal XXX,and I wasn't able to play in any of the 3 emulators...maybe the other versions of Surreal are better about compatibility?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ruatu on July 08, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
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are there any shortcts to quit a playing rom and get bact to surreal interface?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: bigmacattack on July 10, 2006, 10:33:00 PM
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Everybody i found something that will fix it, if you go into your ms dashboard and go into your memory and delete the surreal 64 file, it will now take orders from the surreal .ini file
i have mine going off my e drive right now
credit to this thread http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/68681
btw i'm and evil softmoder
This post has been edited by bigmacattack: Jul 11 2006, 05:37 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: micbic on July 11, 2006, 01:56:00 AM
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7zip files do not work, you have to unzip them first.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: tonymanxx on July 11, 2006, 06:31:00 PM
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im having a very weird problem...when i load the application from the xbox it says loading then loads the title menu of an xbox game...any thing i can do for that ?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Vangar on July 12, 2006, 01:25:00 AM
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Heya,
I've got a small problem with Jet Force Gemini. All my other ROMs work fine, but once Jet Force Gemini is loaded it doesn't respond to the joystick or the triggers, it acts as if i have 5% sensitivity - Juno pulls his gun yet doesn't fire, and he walks incredibly slow. Otherwise it is emulating fine.
What am i doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Evan/Vangar
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: biohazard on July 21, 2006, 08:50:00 AM
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I am having a simple problem that I cant figure out. My Surreall (not XXX) works fine, but whenever I load any rom it freezes on "saving settings", am I doing something wrong?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: The_Fuzileiro on July 21, 2006, 04:37:00 PM
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Someone here had problems with the box art? Mine are not displayed on the screen... and all the roms appears with no nome...
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Krazzt on July 22, 2006, 01:39:00 PM
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I finally got the Roms to show up, however here's my new problem. Roms will only play through Ultra HLE. I am 100% positive that when I had it working on an older modded xbox that I was able to play Tetrisphere, SF Rush etc and all the games that default to Project 64, they worked. Now, if I try to load a game through Project 64, it just resets to dash.
I have tinkered with nothing, all I did was set the .ini to point to the correct roms folder (E:\Roms\)and I left D:\Media\ as it was.
Any idea what's going on?
This post has been edited by Krazzt: Jul 22 2006, 08:44 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Alvarez89 on July 24, 2006, 12:37:00 PM
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What version of surreal are you using, and what rom are you trying to load? Some games are incompatible and will not run, and even lock up your xbox, so you should refer to the compatibility list. Make sure you are using the correct romsets by checking with goodn64 tool.
I tried using both Surreal64xxx_b4.9 and Surreal64 v1.0. I have about 30 roms on my Harddrive that i've tried to load, using Project64, UltraHLE, and 1964. All i ever get is "%_Loading" then it freezes on a black screen. I completely removed Surreal 64 from my xbox and tried over from scratch, following instructions in forums, but still no luck.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: The_Fuzileiro on July 25, 2006, 09:09:00 AM
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Sorry but... this emulator is a pain in the ass... it need a complete reconfiguration...
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: micbic on July 26, 2006, 05:47:00 AM
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Dont like it? Make your own. This emulator is not hard at all to configure 99% of the time unless you screw with the inis.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: dgjpokaplaya on July 30, 2006, 01:08:00 PM
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HELP!! I have read forum after forum and cant find this out my roms arnt showing up on surreal64 on my xbox. NOW before i get yelled at for posting another one of those here is what ive tried:
renaming files and confirming game files with goodn64,goodwindows and stuff
changing the surreal.ini rom source to the correct directory for my roms
tried loading the roms with the refesh in surreal64
i cant think of anything else to do its like ive tried all i can find. please help me!! thanks alot!
Derek
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: VampX on July 30, 2006, 02:32:00 PM
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ive tried all i can find.
Derek
Well since the answer is in the Pinned thread i doubt you even tried to find the answer.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: dgjpokaplaya on July 30, 2006, 05:02:00 PM
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Ive been searching everywhere!! like i said i have tried about everything, ive found others posts and folowed their solutions step by step but still cant get it to work im not one to post unless ive thouroughly searched for the solution im just at a hault and cant figure it out most of the problems ive had ive ben able to solve through reading forums thats why im here to ask for your help!
thanks
Derek
and i dont know what a pinned thred is? prob dumb but i really don tknow
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: VampX on July 30, 2006, 06:28:00 PM
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and i dont know what a pinned thred is? prob dumb but i really don tknow
(IMG:http://home.wanadoo.nl/vampiro/xboxscene/pinned.jpg)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: dgjpokaplaya on July 30, 2006, 07:00:00 PM
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sweet ill check it out thanks!!!!!
Derek
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Ecksbox on July 30, 2006, 07:13:00 PM
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I cannot get star wars rouge sqad to load, or indiana jones and many others, I just get a black screen, anyone have a sugg?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: thebluesgrunger16 on July 30, 2006, 08:09:00 PM
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every n64 emulator ive tried never works i try to load the rom and it jsut goes to a black screen why is this?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: micbic on July 31, 2006, 12:55:00 AM
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check the compatability list, i dont think these games work on surreal.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: joezz4293msn on August 03, 2006, 09:50:00 AM
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Irez , I'm having that issue where roms load to about 50% some up to 100% then I just get a BLACK screen. I'm using what i think is the latest version of surreal ( SurrealXXX B 4-95).
[email protected]
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: korn_16_f_t_l on August 04, 2006, 03:42:00 AM
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I have a question that i did not see covered here (though may be a little off topic and though i did a therough yet quick skim of the forum / topic).
I ran GOODN64 on my rom collection and had all my roms placed into to there corresponding directorys (i.e gooddump, bad dump, pd, ect. ect.) and all the other emulators seem to be able to work from sub directorys from the ROM's folder i thought that sureal would also.
i placed all the corresponding folders (good dump, bad dump, ect., ect.) in to the ROM's folder and it either seems i am wrong or the .ini of surreal can only point to one sub directory at a time (i re-wrote the .ini to read as follows /F/Emulators/Surreal64xxx_b4.9/Roms/gooddump and it loaded the ROM's on the game select screen) is there any other way to keep my roms sorted and be able to browse them freely with out having to re do the .ini file every time?
should i just install all 3 emulators individually (i.e pj64) and point all the emulators to the same rom folder and run my ROM's on a trial and error basis (i.e if one dont run on pj64 exit pj64 and try it on the next emulator)?
I am also curious of the advantages and dis advantages of this method.
p.s.
I have also tested this on sureal v1.0 and sureal xxxv1.9b and neither seem to support sub directorys.
Also from what i have read only certin ROM's w/ certin names that are in the .ini files will run and i am aware that some of my collection may not run ( it is ok because i will be able to recover what ever those roms are from my xbox and play them on my pc......i think)
This post has been edited by korn_16_f_t_l: Aug 4 2006, 10:44 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: korn_16_f_t_l on August 04, 2006, 01:54:00 PM
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bump still lookin for an answer any help any one?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ncloet on August 25, 2006, 11:32:00 AM
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Hey, I'm having a problem loading save states in Surreal. So far I've only tried it with Mario 64. A few days ago, I tried to load a save state (after loading many of them successfully before), and suddenly my Xbox just turned off. So I turned it back on and I didn't have any problems for the rest of the evening... but it started happening more frequently and now I can't load a single save state without either turning off my Xbox or getting a black, frozen screen, OR, in one case I actually did load the state, but I couldn't control anything. I really have no idea what the problem is.
Any help is much appreciated!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: PatchBokov on August 28, 2006, 06:28:00 PM
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Hi,
Surreal64 work like a charm with my Xbox. However, since I set the fan speed to 80 % in Xbmc, when I use an emulator, the fan speed drop to something like 40 or 50 %.. How could I edit that ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: etrain1984 on September 12, 2006, 11:10:00 AM
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I am having problems running the new version of surreal. I have read through the pinned topic and done all of the suggested things to get it going. My roms are in the roms folder inside the surreal 64 xxx folder so i left the rompath as D:\Roms. The media path is D:\Media I believe or whatever the default is. I had an old version of surreal working just fine before this and I deleted it to upgrade. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: etrain1984 on September 12, 2006, 03:20:00 PM
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Well, I reverted back to the version just before 4.95 and it worked just fine. Not sure why?
This post has been edited by etrain1984: Sep 12 2006, 10:20 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: etrain1984 on September 13, 2006, 10:06:00 PM
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Having a problem with surreal xxx... when playing mario 64 and in the world tiny-huge island, when I go down one of the pipes to warp it freezes every time... any ideas what the problem is?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: micbic on September 16, 2006, 11:00:00 PM
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This game works perfect on surreal v1.0
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Stabtakulor on September 18, 2006, 08:12:00 AM
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I have a problem running Perfect Dark on the emulator, and I did not see any topics that really helped me, so I decided to go ahead and post one myself.
My problem is running it with project 64 in surreal. I was able to run it in 1964, but it had numerous graphics and texture problems, much like it did when I ran it on the computer version of 1964. Project 64 looked really nice on the computer though, and that was what I was hoping would work, but neither that one, nor Ultra HLE worked with Perfect Dark. When I try to load it, it says loading, gets to 100%, then goes to that black screen.
Here is all relevant information for reference:
Surreal Version: 1.0
Romname: Perfect Dark (U) (V1.1) [!] (confirmed with good 64)
Emulators tried: All three attempted; only 1964 successful
Modding method: Softmodded, with no modifications done to hardware
Using NTSC
I have also made sure all the paths are correct; I have the roms stored on my hardrive on drive E, and have modified the surreal.ini file to access this path.
This post has been edited by Stabtakulor: Sep 18 2006, 03:13 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: xenomorpher on November 08, 2006, 05:15:00 AM
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I have a problem running Perfect Dark on the emulator, and I did not see any topics that really helped me, so I decided to go ahead and post one myself.
My problem is running it with project 64 in surreal. I was able to run it in 1964, but it had numerous graphics and texture problems, much like it did when I ran it on the computer version of 1964. Project 64 looked really nice on the computer though, and that was what I was hoping would work, but neither that one, nor Ultra HLE worked with Perfect Dark. When I try to load it, it says loading, gets to 100%, then goes to that black screen.
Here is all relevant information for reference:
Surreal Version: 1.0
Romname: Perfect Dark (U) (V1.1) [!] (confirmed with good 64)
Emulators tried: All three attempted; only 1964 successful
Modding method: Softmodded, with no modifications done to hardware
Using NTSC
I have also made sure all the paths are correct; I have the roms stored on my hardrive on drive E, and have modified the surreal.ini file to access this path.
Perfect Dark won't load for me either as well as Turok: Rage Wars. I am using a Softmodded Xbox as well and I am in the same exact boat as you.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Nemo1985X on November 08, 2006, 11:07:00 PM
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Also you may need some more RAM...
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Denelic on November 14, 2006, 03:17:00 AM
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I have had Surreal installed and used on my modded XBox for a couple on monthes, but recently came across a link to an ISO for Surreal and 297 ROMS. I burned the iso onto a Fujifilm DVD-R and but it into my Phillips drive (XBox). However, the ROM list takes almost an hour to load, is incomplete, has untitled ROMS, and it changes each time I load the DVD.
I then took the DVD to my friends and put it in his XBox, which never had Surreal on it, to find out if it was the DVD. It loaded the list in a couple of minutes, complete and working perfectly. I then put it back into my XBox, waited for it to load and played a couple of the games that did load. Worked fine. I deleted the Surreal folder from my Apps directory, but it still does not work.
What could be my problem? Dirty laser or maybe the wrong type of media? Or is there soem kind of file I need to delete left over from when Surreal was installed on my HD that is causing the bug?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: VampX on November 14, 2006, 06:21:00 AM
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Or is there soem kind of file I need to delete left over from when Surreal was installed on my HD that is causing the bug?
Yep. you didnt remove the surreal save from the msdashboard, thats why it worked at your friends place.
because like you said yourself and put it in his XBox, which never had Surreal on it,
lesson #1 : just removing the app does not mean you have uninstalled it, remove the savegame too.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Denelic on November 14, 2006, 06:37:00 AM
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That's what I figured thank you. Just wanted to make sure before I go deleting files from my msdashboard.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: xboxdrivnmemad on November 25, 2006, 03:45:00 AM
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firstly iv gone over iriez post over and over again and i need help.
please i just bought modded xbox (second hand from a dealer) so lets just assume it has all the neccessary bits to run this emulator.
ok iv downloaded surreal64 unzipped it on my pc. iv got ftp connection to xbox. just give me simple idiot proof steps on what to do.
do i just copy the surreal folder to the xbox?
i dont want to run off cds and dvds i just want it all on the xbox.
iv been readin this topic for days
im lost with the whole d: drive thing
i managed to do the rename of the roms and alsothe dexbe thing.
i can see the surreal icon in the programs list on the xbox so i open it and it just freazes on blank screen.
let me know if i have to remove files befor startin this all again
i have a few roms and downloaded surreal 64 just tell me wher to put them (permantly) and how to put them there.
thank you guys
and if im stupid please feel free to say so (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: uzumaki on November 29, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
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firstly iv gone over iriez post over and over again and i need help.
please i just bought modded xbox (second hand from a dealer) so lets just assume it has all the neccessary bits to run this emulator.
ok iv downloaded surreal64 unzipped it on my pc. iv got ftp connection to xbox. just give me simple idiot proof steps on what to do.
do i just copy the surreal folder to the xbox?
i dont want to run off cds and dvds i just want it all on the xbox.
iv been readin this topic for days
im lost with the whole d: drive thing
i managed to do the rename of the roms and alsothe dexbe thing.
i can see the surreal icon in the programs list on the xbox so i open it and it just freazes on blank screen.
let me know if i have to remove files befor startin this all again
i have a few roms and downloaded surreal 64 just tell me wher to put them (permantly) and how to put them there.
thank you guys
and if im stupid please feel free to say so (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
First make a folder called Surreal64 xxx. Then copy the contents of the zipped file in that folder. You need to edit the surreal.ini in there with notepad and reupload it. All you need to edit is the Rom path to where your roms are located inside the surreal folder, for example mine is:
Leave the Media path as is. That's all I had to do to get it running.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: dajon on November 30, 2006, 06:11:00 AM
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Is there any way to use surreal to access roms that are stored on a networked PC? I know with the xport emulators you can use SMB or Relax to run the roms from the PC and was wondering if you could do this with Surreal. If anyone knows and could give a small walkthrough I would appreciate it. Also, if this cannot be done, what does the rompath need to look like if you want to run the roms from a DVD. Do you use the A drive? Also would surreal run better if it was on the disc with the roms, or stored locally on the hard drive?
This post has been edited by dajon: Nov 30 2006, 02:11 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: A Murder of Crows on December 03, 2006, 08:06:00 AM
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okay, so i'm not exactly a newbie by any means, but i have to admit that the issues regarding n64 emulation proved to be a bit....much...for me to take.
till now.
the big question i have is....should i run multiple versions of Surreal?
i see the compatiblity chart telling me that a lot works on Surreal 1.0. I see the best Emu thread tell me to use Surreal 64 XXX or the other one.
Logic Sunrise tells me Surreal XXX is dead.
so...what's the proper answer? is it even possible to run both Surreal v1.0 and surreal XXX on the same box?
lastly, is there any way to make the emu remember the settings when you select a game?
thanx all
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: dick_justice on December 03, 2006, 12:49:00 PM
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i don't feel like looking through all of this...
so will a rom ending in .z64 work with surreal?
conker didn't for me
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: micbic on December 03, 2006, 04:06:00 PM
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yes it should
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: A Murder of Crows on December 08, 2006, 01:07:00 AM
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still looking for an answer...can i safely run Surreal 64 v1 and Sureal 64 XXX on the same machine?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: BIGT889 on December 08, 2006, 08:30:00 AM
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Since there seems to be a million kazillion threads, im going to do this in effort to clean up this forum. If you have a issue with surreal64 loading or playing games read here first, and try any suggestions in relation to your problem. If it is not fixed after trying, then reply with your specific problem.
Firstly, are you having problems loading the emulator? Does it freeze on loading/black screen? Check these things..
Are you running a 4977 bios? (One thats been patched for lba48) Or 4978? Both are known to cause issues -
Reflash with a evox bios, or 4976.06 or 4979.06/67 +
Do you have all the correct files and folders on your xbox? (most specifically the media directory, default.xbe and surreal.ini)
Are you using a old modchip such as xecuter 1, or enigmah/xtender? - Try patching first (all your xbe files)with dexbe to retail, and if that doesnt work your going to need to use Phoenix Bios Loader (PBL) to boot another bios into memory before launching. This will not go into support for using PBL. Please use at your own descretion.
People who cannot get it to load by patching with dexbe should also try xbe patcher
Are you having a problem with your Roms not showing up?
First and formost, have you edited the Surreal.ini *before* you run it to point to your roms?
You need to change it to be Rom Path=F:\Path\to\your\roms . If you are putting the roms in the 'roms' folder inside your surreal64 install dir, then make the Rom Path=D:\Roms
If you have already ran Surreal64, then your ini was saved to the TDATA folder, and you have to edit it there.
/E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini <-- That is the path to it. Simply edit that file right there to reflect the directory of your roms, and then launch the emu and hit the 'refresh' button in the lower right hand corner.
Are you trying to run Roms off the dvd and cannot get it to work?
First, you must create a xiso of your roms. Create a New folder...name it whatever you please. Go into it, and make a directory called "Roms". Put all of your N64 Roms in there. Use Simple Xiso and select that 'new directory' that you created for creating a xiso. The point is to create a xiso with a roms folder on there, and NOT your roms on the root directory of the disk. If you put them directly on the disk it will not work. Create the xiso, and burn using record now max or nero or whatever your favorite burning software is. Make sure you are using media your xbox can read, i.e. if you have a samsung you can use cd-r, if not you can only use cd-rw/dvd-r/dvd+r. If you have not launched surreal64 on your xbox, then you can edit your ini right there to say A\:Roms or if you have already launched it you must edit /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini to reflect A:\Roms . Relaunch Surreal64 with your disk in the tray and hit the refresh button.
Are certian Roms not showing up?
Check your roms!
GOODN64
Download Goodn64, bin.zip, and good windows. Extract them all to a directory of your choice. In goodwindows select 'Good tool' as your mode, and then select Nintendo 64 as your system. The rom directory is in the lower left corner, simply choose the directory of your roms, then hit the big button on the lower right (Should say Goodn64.exe rename). It will put all of your roms renamed properly in a N64Ren folder, and any bad/unknown in another.
If a specific rom is not showing up, and you have renamed it, check and make sure the surreal.ini has a entry for it. Example...
You have Banjo-Kazooie (E) [!].zip and for some reason its not showing up. Open surreal.ini with a text editor (most of you will use notepad, but use ultraedit if you have it).
Do a search for Banjo until you find the entry for that rom. In this case..it would be
[733FCCB1-444892F9-C:50]
Game Name=Banjo-Kazooie
Alternate Title=Banjo-Kazooie (E) [!]
Comments=Playable
Preferred Emulator=0
If your rom has been renamed by goodn64, and does not show up, you should not be able to find it in the surreal.ini. This is merely a confirmation of what exactly is happening. If this is the case, obtain the correct version of the rom. All (U) and (E) [!] roms are supported (to show on the romlist). Also, if your zip file is compressed a certian way (dont ask me which way) surreal may not be able to extract the rom from the zip to verify the crc. If this is not the case, and your rom IS renamed, AND you have found the entry for it in the ini (and you are sure it is the correct rom), you've tried unzipping, and it is still not showing up, then i have no clue = ) I would advise you contain another version supported by the surreal.ini
If you have a rom that you have verified to be a good dump, and transfered it to your xbox, and refreshed your romlist, and it is *still* not showing up, then unzip the rom and transfer it, instead of the zip archive. The reason this might happen is because its using a non standard compression, and surreal 64 wouldnt be able to unzip it to see which rom it is.
Also, in regards to romplaying/stability/capability i have noticed that evox takes more memory somehow if launched from it (the dashboard, not the bios). I would imagine the reason is because evox patches the kernel, and also uses debug TSR tools. Try to not launch surreal64 from evox to minimalize any problems.
---ROM CONFIGURATION SECTION---
Most of the games should run fine with the default settings.
For audio you only have two choices, Azimer, which is the audio source from apollo used with jttl's SDL sound output, or PJ RSP, which is the basic audio plugin with LLE.
If a game is not playing (as in loads and freezes, or runs slow) you may be able to tweak the preformance by adjusting the memory settings.
The best way to go about this is to load the game, and turn on the debug display by right clicking on the analog stick and selecting it.
This will display how much memory is free. Start playing your game and keep in mind how much is free.
A example would be...super smash brothers. Ingame while your playing you have say.. 7.5MB free on average.
Quit the game and go back to the romlist and go into the settings.
The default setting should be 4MB video.
For 1964 dyna should be 8mb, and paging 4mb.
For PJ64 dyna should be 16mb, and paging 4mb
Now you will want to adjust your settings dependant upon which emulator you used.
Keep in mind that in order for the menu ingame to display correctly, you need atleast 4mb free. With 7.5 mb free on our example, that would give you 3.5 mb to play with, if you want the menu to show. If you dont give a damn about the menu, then i would suggest only going as low as 2mb free, which would give you 5.5Mb to play with.
The most noticable impact you will see is by increasing the dyna. Only in very few games (like super smash brothers and banjo tooie that comes to mind) need alot of video memory for textures. You'll notice some backgrounds missing in SSB if your video setting is too low.
So, by default, say in 1964 you have 8mb dyna. You have anywhere from 3.5-5.5 MB to play with. My suggestion would be to trial and error and see what does best for you. Try increasing the dyna by 4mb first, and see if that improves your preformance. If that doesnt work, increase it by 2, and increase the paging by 2. If that doesnt improve, drop the paging to 2mb and increase the dyna by 6mb.
Some games, like perfect dark, simply need more memory than a 64mb xbox can provide with the current core. It needs about 16mb dyna and 16mb paging in order to run smooth.
In some cases you can drop the paging to 1mb without a noticable difference. This may increase stuttering, or draw the FPS to nothing when trying to load a level/scene/texture that requires large memory.
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Are you getting a BLACK SCREEN after loading a rom? Make 100% sure you are using Surreal v1.0 and NOT the gueux.net version. That version is for softmod exploits on newer xbox kernels.
Yes, .ZIP files are supported, aswell as all the known extentions for n64 rom's such as .usa and .v64
A specific rom not showing up on the list?
Please keep in mind this is not a bug or compatibility list. This is merely a help thread getting surreal *Started*. Please post to the appropriate thread if you wish to submit a bug within the emulator.
I will update this post with helpful information as i recieve it.
Hey man can help me with something? I have a modchip (DuoX Lite) and i have EvoX and i also have XBMC and i cant seem to get my N64 and SNES game Roms loaded onto my xbox. I downloaded all of the Roms off a bit torrent site and downloaded them and then i changed them to an .Xiso by using SimpleXiso and then i burnt it to a Memorex DVD-R Disc and then i put it into the xbox and it says that it is unknown(on The EvoX Dashboard) then when i went into XBMC, and i went to my files and i checked teh D Drive and it should all of the game roms in it, What do i do next? All the games are zipped files though, is thats what is wrong? I already have Surreal64 downloaded onto the xbox. I also have my xbox networked to my computer and i use FlashFXP and it works.
Im new at this and i really want to play my N64 Roms and SNES Roms on it so plaease can u help me out with this...
Thanx
P.S. Anyone can help me i just want to get it up and running as soon as possible...Thanx again
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: alvenzo on December 08, 2006, 08:34:00 AM
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Hey!
I have a problem, I have tried to run Surreal64 on my xbox but it will not run, all I see is the "evolution x" loading screen.. thing is I read earlier that you needed evox bios or some other bios, but thing is, I do not know what bios to download cuz I have no idea what chip I have... I bought it several years ago 2nd hand and the chip was allready installed... how do I solve this problem? =)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 13, 2006, 07:33:00 PM
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Quick question. Did a search and found no answer. How can I NOT play the games in widescreen mode? I see no options for adjusting the screen size or position.
Thanks,
Chris
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: georaldc on December 13, 2006, 08:37:00 PM
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Quick question. Did a search and found no answer. How can I NOT play the games in widescreen mode? I see no options for adjusting the screen size or position.
Thanks,
Chris
Try switching your tv's aspect ratio to 4:3?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Twilight Scythe on December 14, 2006, 05:41:00 PM
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Hey!
I have a problem, I have tried to run Surreal64 on my xbox but it will not run, all I see is the "evolution x" loading screen.. thing is I read earlier that you needed evox bios or some other bios, but thing is, I do not know what bios to download cuz I have no idea what chip I have... I bought it several years ago 2nd hand and the chip was allready installed... how do I solve this problem? =)
I am having the same problem, but i'm not sure if its my bios.
I have an Xecuter 2 modchip. My surreal folder is in my games folder. The roms are in the surreal folder's rom folder.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: metallica470 on December 14, 2006, 08:53:00 PM
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i downloaded the surreal 64 emulator and installed it on the xbox then i added the roms to the rom folder. next i started surreal 64 and got to the main screen pushed refresh and the games show up as unknown when i click on one the it ask which to use project64, ultra ect. so i selected one and the screen just stayed black. then i tried renaming the rom to what it say in the surreal.ini and it still show up unknown. what am i doing wrong?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 14, 2006, 11:08:00 PM
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Try switching your tv's aspect ratio to 4:3?
I don't use a TV. I have a 24" widescreen trinitron display, and it is not trivial to switch aspect ratios because it auto-detects them. The screen size needs to be adjusted in the software.
Chris
I am having the same problem, but i'm not sure if its my bios.
I have an Xecuter 2 modchip. My surreal folder is in my games folder. The roms are in the surreal folder's rom folder.
I also have an Xecuter 2 (2.6) and the emu works fine for me. What bios do you have?
Chris
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Twilight Scythe on December 15, 2006, 12:55:00 PM
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Do be honest, i don't know how to check what version i have.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Just_Sam on December 15, 2006, 06:48:00 PM
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Hey I got a slight problem. I just installed Surreal v1.0 and it's all going good, got a few games on but the main reason I got it was for Zelda.
I am a huge Zelda fan however when I try to put either OoT or MM on through FlashFXP instead of loading it on there it shows a little red cross and says Transfer Failed.
I just tried literally 40 different copies all approved or whatever through that Goodwindows thing and not one worked.
Am I doing something wrong? Or are others having this problem, and yes I do have enough space on my disc. I am running EvoX.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Just_Sam on December 17, 2006, 12:58:00 PM
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Thanks for all the help guys but I figured it out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: micbic on December 17, 2006, 07:14:00 PM
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im 99% sure that problem as because the files had illegal characters in the name for anyone wondering
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: freeyayo50 on January 02, 2007, 09:48:00 PM
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With the 1964 emulator in Surreal 64. Which is the best video plugin to use?? There are 3 different ones (Rice 5.10, Rice 5.31, 5.60)
Also, with choosing the audio...is it safer to just stick with the basic audio plugin or go with the JttL??
Thanx
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: captice-trice on January 04, 2007, 01:38:00 AM
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Thanks for the great post, Iriez. Your first entry filled in all the gaps for me.
Just wanted to say that not all patcher programs work the same way; the dexbe patched perfectly when the other programs didn't. (Oh, sure, those programs would say they worked, but they didn't.)
Everything is going great for me now. :D
yo peoples i am a bit of a noob at the eumalaters and i downloaded "neon genesis evangelion" rom and i am concernd that it may play or not
the file is a .z64
ill be back on in a few days time so can some one submit some good rom sites
thanks
captice t. trice
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: bigmacattack on January 05, 2007, 07:30:00 AM
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No you need to rename the file, the ftp client won't recognize some of the characters
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: VampX on January 05, 2007, 07:47:00 AM
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ill be back on in a few days time so can some one submit some good rom sites
Sure man will do, here's a good read about rom sites. url
just scroll down a little bit to the part that says "where do i get the roms"
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: final_sephiroth on January 11, 2007, 10:05:00 AM
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Hey guys, need help getting this emulator to work, tried looking at every topic i can find and still cant get an answer,
ive transferred the files into my /e/emulators/ folder, kept same names as was before, the version is beta 4-95, it has the main folder which contains the .xbe and the rest. and seperate were the info text document and the surreal64_xxx_b4.95 msinformation file.
the problem is that when i load the emulator from my launch emulator menu on the dashboard, the screen sticks at loading
cheers
oh yeah, im have the xecuter3 modchip in my system
This post has been edited by final_sephiroth: Jan 11 2007, 06:05 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: CaptainM on June 13, 2007, 10:04:00 PM
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OK, I know this has been asked a million times, but I'm getting the infamous "black screen". The game loads to 66/100% (it varies from game to game) and then just gives me the black screen. I'm using the Gueux.net version because I have a soft-modded xbox. I have not tried patching the xbe files, but I do have dexbe. The problem is, I don't know how to use it and can't find a tut anywhere. My games are the right format (.zip) so I know that's not the problem. The really interesting part is that when I load mario 64 and banjo-kazooie in just the normal version in UltraHLE, it works fine, but any other emu/rom doesn't. The gueux.net version won't load those two games at all. What do I do? Should I patch? If so, how? Thanks.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Friday on June 15, 2007, 05:29:00 AM
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I have the same problem!
EvoX dashbord build v1.8.3285
EvoX D.6 EjectFix bios
Surreal64 v1.0
Super smash bros (U) [!] ---- Good american dump
it just freezez at 100% after loading the game.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: CaptainM on June 16, 2007, 10:38:00 AM
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another guy told me just to try every version, starting from beta1 and up, including surrealxxx. Check out this forum :Surreal 64 Begginer help
I guess it's good to know that it isn't due to my softmod!
This post has been edited by CaptainM: Jun 16 2007, 05:40 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Friday on June 16, 2007, 01:45:00 PM
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Thank you CaptainM I will try this and tell u if it works( will take time lol)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: CaptainM on June 16, 2007, 01:58:00 PM
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Just to let you know, I just did it with no avail. Tell me how yours turns out.
Wait a minute, I just realized something: If I use evox, and you use evox, and everybody else with this problem uses evox, it has to be a problem with evox! I'm going to switch to xbmc as soon as I can find it...
This post has been edited by CaptainM: Jun 16 2007, 09:00 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: VampX on June 16, 2007, 02:48:00 PM
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I'm going to switch to xbmc as soon as I can find it...
and by that you mean "as soon as i learn how xbins works and i download it from there" right? right?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: CaptainM on June 17, 2007, 10:39:00 AM
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no, not really... Why you hatin' on the newbs? Just because I don't have over like one thousand posts, doesn't mean I don't know anything. Anybody have any suggestions on mine and friday's problem?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: chorizo1 on June 17, 2007, 10:07:00 AM
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no, not really... Why you hatin' on the newbs? Just because I don't have over like one thousand posts, doesn't mean I don't know anything. Anybody have any suggestions on mine and friday's problem?
yep. it's in Fridays thread.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: CaptainM on June 17, 2007, 11:03:00 AM
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Hey thanks, but unfortunately, that didn't work. Is it normal to get a bunch of broken file messages when I extract the rar archive? I've used 7-zip and winrar and both of them give me broken file errors. I got the archive off of xbins. The only thing I can think of is that it's supposed to happen, or I'm not using the right programs.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: chorizo1 on June 17, 2007, 11:39:00 PM
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Hey thanks, but unfortunately, that didn't work.
what didn't work? no errors aren't likely.........
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: CaptainM on June 18, 2007, 10:41:00 AM
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I just get the same thing I got before.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Art2Fly on June 27, 2007, 01:00:00 PM
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ok well hopefully someone will answer this, but when im in Surreal 64 XXX b4 95 i play Zelda OOT U (1.0) and the game is glitchy but when i play on my comp, it runs perfect! in OOt when i go to stores there is nothing but black and primary colors and when i load up start menu (witch takes forever) you can't see link in the equip screen nor can you see the background behing the box thing can someone help me or at least show me where to get the latest version of Surreal
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: VampX on June 27, 2007, 03:32:00 PM
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or at least show me where to get the latest version of Surreal
That would be Xbins, check the stickied big answer thread for more info.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Art2Fly on July 05, 2007, 12:38:00 PM
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I have another question. Is it possible to use a Nintendo 64 controller on this emulator by splicing wires and such?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: xbox_earth on July 13, 2007, 10:54:00 PM
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i'm running xbmc... and surreal64 just wont load, it stays at the black screen. Never had any problems like this before with xbmc, 2 other emulators i've tried work. Any suggestions?...**just posting because have looked here but cant find any1 using xbmc**
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: CaptainM on July 14, 2007, 08:04:00 PM
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**just posting because have looked here but cant find any1 using xbmc**
Well I don't think you've looked very hard because the majority of people who know what they're doing here use xbmc, including myself. As to the "black screen", I'd tell you to just give up now. I tried for weeks, doing every remotely possible solution to get my games to work to no avail. That's my 2 cents.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: njmbb8 on July 24, 2007, 09:41:00 AM
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okay i have a evox dashboard and bios not sure wich versions tho and when i load surreal 64 it gets stuck at the loading screen
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: el Gallo on August 11, 2007, 10:18:00 AM
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ok so i got surreal to load successfully and the romso show up , but as soon at it loads on the xbox i have no control of the cursor on the screen so i cant do anything. the xbox does not freeze as i can still reboot from the controller. anyone know what i should do ?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: VampX on August 11, 2007, 12:50:00 PM
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Is your Joypad in port #1 ?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: tommw on August 30, 2007, 04:29:00 AM
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Hi,
I cannot get Surreal 64 to play ROMs. Whenever I load a ROM, I'm presented with a black screen however you can cleary hear the sound, and button presses seem to work as I'm able to navigate around the game - I just can't see anything at all.
Any help would be appreciated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Cheers!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Monkey Bread on August 30, 2007, 03:16:00 PM
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800th post!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: w1lldeang on August 31, 2007, 11:08:00 PM
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hey i put surreal on my xbox over and over and each time whne i click on it it just freezes on a screen that says loading application....what should i do?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: competes2win on September 01, 2007, 11:51:00 AM
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hey i put surreal on my xbox over and over and each time whne i click on it it just freezes on a screen that says loading application....what should i do?
Maybe make sure that what your trying to load is the actual default.xbe?
This post has been edited by competes2win: Sep 1 2007, 06:52 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: w1lldeang on September 05, 2007, 01:10:00 PM
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haha yee itz tha default.xbe...but for some reason it still wont load.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Arakias on September 12, 2007, 07:40:00 PM
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Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to burn a DVD with Surreal 64 and all of my N64 roms *IN* the rom folder of Surreal 64.
Here's a screenshot of what I'm working with.
Again, I have roughly 4 gigs of roms in the roms folder.
Thanks!
(IMG:http://www.geocities.com/lamiamusic/surrel64ss.GIF)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: pigdog on September 22, 2007, 02:55:00 PM
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Where does Surreal store its save states? In my Surreal.ini this is what it says
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
But I don't even have a D:\ drive and my save states all seem to work, and I added my ROMs directory manually.
I ask because I want to export my Banjo-Tooie save to my PC because I need to finish a part which requires much lower controller sensitivity than is currently set in the program, and there is no option to change it on xbox.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: BonusJz on September 23, 2007, 11:39:00 AM
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D: - its like universal path and mean - in the same folder as default.xbe
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Bart_NL on December 18, 2007, 03:54:00 AM
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Ohh, I have a new problem. (or at least, it's new for me)
I used to play my N64-roms with Surreal64 all the time. But since I updated XBMC to one of the more recent T3Ch-versions it doesn't run anymore.
All I get is a black screen. Is this a common problem? All I replaced was the E:\APPS\XBMC-folder.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Party Animal on December 21, 2007, 04:51:00 AM
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LOL at least people are putting their help requests in the appropriate topic!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: competes2win on December 21, 2007, 04:17:00 PM
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Hey everyone, I wanted to download the latest Surreal xxx and trying every site listed in google and subsites from those sites I have had no results. I simply cannot find where to download Surreal xxx b5 except at xbox-scene and there you have to have a membership to download it. I was able to download the source code but the source code was too buggy to be compiled. Will anyone please send me a link or let me know how I can get surreal xxx 64 b5? Thanks a lot.
No what I meant, was to check out the thread that is stickied and at the top of the emulators section... the one that basically says to read before you post any stupid questions... it's not a very complicated process but might be new to you, it was for me when i first started getting stuff from that usual place.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: competes2win on December 22, 2007, 12:15:00 AM
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I checked that and now I see why you told me to read that. Thanks. However, to download surreal xxx in the sticky post it says to first connect to xbins in an irc client. Well I followed directions perfectly and xbins channel must not exist anymore. Also, I have gone to the xbins channel before, using the irc client mirc. So I don't think it exists anymore. I tried 2 times, with 2 different ways of connecting. Anyhow, my question remains - where can I download surreal xxx b5?
xbins does still exist... was on there just today. make sure you're connected to the correct server.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: zrs_guy on December 27, 2007, 02:02:00 PM
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I was able to ftp to xbins today. I looked through the xbox folder and sub directories but did not find any emulators for the xbox, only 2 emulators for the pc. So does anyone know where I could get Surreal xxx b5?
I cannot believe this bullshit! I cant even get a very developed emulator anywhere.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: zrs_guy on December 27, 2007, 11:43:00 PM
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Hey everyone, for those who sent me links to surreal xxx thanks a lot! The reason I wanted a newer surreal xxx was to be able to actually save and load Zelda games successfully. I was very dissappointed with the new version. Just like the old version of surreal xxx the new version could not successfully load saved zelda games. Would anyone please give me some information on how to fix my problem? Thank you everyone!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jzh797s on January 17, 2008, 09:07:00 AM
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I know this has been addressed again and again, but I still cannot get the emulator to pull up a ROM list.
I have a soft modded xbox.
Surreal64 is in E:\apps\emu\surreal64
ROMS are in E:\apps\emu\surreal64\roms
My surreal.ini has had the media directory erased and it has been erased at the file level (as per another post I read to get the roms up). I have my rom folder in the surreal.ini set to E:\apps\emu\surreal64\roms. All of my ROMS have .z64 extensions.
If anyone could shed some light on what Im doing wrong I would be greatly appreciative.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Neuroshii on January 17, 2008, 07:27:00 PM
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hey... i have surreal 64 FDB v2, and first of all, is there a newer version(and if so, where do you download it.) and seccond, i have Surreal64_FDB_v2 and a soft modded box. When I load surreal 64 it just loads the menu... no roms. I have all the roms inside E/emus/Surreal64_FDB_v2/roms and i have modified the surreal.ini to find it there but it still dosent load the roms... anyone have an idea what the problem might be
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ressurectionx on January 17, 2008, 08:27:00 PM
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Hello,
I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has ever gotten Surreal 64 to work with a stock hard drive using drive "E:\". There's about 4 people experiencing what seems to be the exact same problem and I recall after having modded my brother's XBox and leaving the drive stock that we had the exact same problem. None of the roms would show up. I couldn't figure it out and just gave up on it.
That was about 8 months ago. I forgot about that until now.
I was able to ftp to xbins today. I looked through the xbox folder and sub directories but did not find any emulators for the xbox, only 2 emulators for the pc. So does anyone know where I could get Surreal xxx b5?
I cannot believe this bullshit! I cant even get a very developed emulator anywhere.
It's definately there man. They're all there. I'm not sitting in front of my home computer right now, so what I type here might be a little off, but you should be able to figure it out.
XBox\console\apps\emulators\surreal
Actually, I'm sure that's not correct, but the point is you're going to have to go in the applications folder to find the emulators. Personally, I wouldn't have set it up that way and I would have made emulators seperate from applications like XBMC does.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: HORiZUN on January 21, 2008, 04:25:00 PM
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First post- I know, I know... You're used to noobs flooding the forums with questions answered in the stickies..
Not the case, here.
I'm running a softmodded NTSC 320GB HD v1.6 XBOX with XBMC as my default dash.
I FTP with FlashFXP.
I have the latest Surreal. (Beta 5)
I have a GoodRomset.
I have edited the Surreal.ini in both the emulator folder as well as the savegame folder.
I see my roms.
I can play my roms. (some, anyway)
My problem: I want to plat South Park: Chef's Luv Shack.
Checked the compatibility thread - game has not been tested. :\
Made it load with basic audio. No go.
Unzipped it. No go.
Replaced the rom with another verified working dump. Nope.
Tried all three emulators in Surreal: made it to the player select screen in PJ64, then it froze.
I have looked high and low for a solution to make this game work. Anyone have any ideas?
Any help is much appreciated.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: xyteam on January 22, 2008, 10:41:00 AM
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you could try surreal64 v1.0.
some people have said that certain games load on that emu that wont on later versions of surreall.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Casualtie on January 26, 2008, 04:33:00 PM
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I am a real nubcake with the Emulators so here i go..
1) When I try to load it gives me like 3 emulators the play, and on 2 it gives a video codec, which do I use?
2) How do I save my game progress?
Thanks
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Martijn1 on January 27, 2008, 09:45:00 AM
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I think I just found a bug in Surreal xxx:
the 1964 emulator seems to be using the Project64 setting for paging memory!
Try it, set 1964 paging to 0 for a game, and then run it, logically it shouldn't be able to even start, but it does, now exit the game and set Project64 paging to 0, the game will now hang at startup... This method is to prove a point ofcourse, you can also experience it using other settings.
Same problem with B4.95 and B5...
I'm on a softmodded 1.6 XBOX.
So for everyone having problems with Mario Kart 64 (wich is the game that made me find this problem): set Project64 paging memory to 8 (since 4 makes it lag at the start of a race), and 1964 dynarec to 8, then run with 1964 and Rice 5.60, the game will now run perfectly.
The same happens for other games as well, so it's not a game-specific bug (if that were even possible for something like this).
Unfortunately, I'm not that good of a programmer, so I won't be able to fix this myself using the sourcecode, but maybe someone else has the skills to fix it even after development on Surreal64 xxx has stopped.
It would be great if someone could confirm this, and maybe even fix it .
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: xyteam on February 02, 2008, 11:57:00 AM
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[quote name='Casualtie' date='Jan 27 2008, 12:09 AM' post='4206292']
I am a real nubcake with the Emulators so here i go..
1) When I try to load it gives me like 3 emulators the play, and on 2 it gives a video codec, which do I use?
2) How do I save my game progress?
Thanks
[/quote/)
1)different games run better on certain emus,so just play around until you find the best one,the video codec is just to improve emulation.
2)when your playing ingame click down on the right analouge stick and go to game savestate and you can save your progress from there.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Vejita on February 20, 2008, 05:02:00 PM
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Can you use the latest Project64.rdb v1.7 (rom database) with Surreal64 XXX or does the RDB bundled with Surreal64 XXX only work?
Here is the latest RDB:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/c8lg45
I can't test it as my Xbox HDD has failed so I'm in the process of restoring a backup.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: yataf on February 23, 2008, 08:15:00 PM
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It seems to me that if you're running on 1.0 you should be fine. I was using 1.0 and the roms kept on black screening on load but it was something to do with my ftp client not transferring files correctly. Now that I fixed that everything seems to be fine.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Justintoxicated on February 24, 2008, 06:32:00 PM
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Hi I can't get surreal to find any roms.
I downloaded Surreal 1.0 from xbits.
I have a softmodded xbox.
Surreal Loads find but no games are listed.
I have placed the roms in a "/roms/' subfolder in the base of the surreal dir.
My .ini has been edited to
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
There is a number of other settings in the ini folder such as
"[001A3BD0-AFB3DE1A-C:46]
Game Name=TARZAN
Alternate Title=Disney's Tarzan (F) [!]
Comments=Playable - No Sound
Preferred Emulator=0
[0198A651-FC219D84-C:50]
Game Name=FIFA 99
Alternate Title=FIFA 99 (E) [!]
Comments=Playable - Slightly slow"
etc.... is this a problem?
My Roms are in .zip files and in .7z files, is this a problem?
It does not seem to find a single ROM.
I have replaced the ini file in the somethingsomething64 folder in the TDATA and now I have compleatly removed both the 64 directory in TDATA and UDATA...Still does not work, I even deleted everything and started over...Still nothing!
This post has been edited by Justintoxicated: Feb 25 2008, 02:43 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: mastodon999 on February 24, 2008, 08:35:00 PM
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O.K... Here is my problem, I have the surreal emu on my xbox, when I try to ftp the roms to my roms folder I get transfer failed. I can't get them to go to my xbox? Please help!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Justintoxicated on February 24, 2008, 09:36:00 PM
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O.K... Here is my problem, I have the surreal emu on my xbox, when I try to ftp the roms to my roms folder I get transfer failed. I can't get them to go to my xbox? Please help!
What FTP program are you using?
^^ I ended up answering my own question, you can't have the files zipped I guess, so I need to manualy extract like 5k files
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: mastodon999 on February 24, 2008, 10:36:00 PM
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FlashFXP.....I can transfer other roms though, just not N64.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: VampX on February 24, 2008, 10:54:00 PM
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guys guys guys, your roms wont transfer because the filenames contain stuff that the xbox can't read,
check the stickied thread for more information about that and faqs on how to correctly mass unzip/rename/rezip your roms.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: peter_gibbons69 on February 25, 2008, 12:56:00 AM
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I am seriously in need of some help. I have got everything working with Surreal64 on multiple version with the following huge exception:
I cannot get the ROMs to load at all. The menu comes up and locates all of the files and provides me with what looks to be full functionality including loading the file to 100%. However, after the file gets to 100% loaded it goes to a black screen and it sounds like my XBOX is idle and I have to reboot my console. The ROMs all work just fine on my PC under a PC emulator but not on my Xbox console. I have been searching through forums and trying different things all day and I for the life of me cannot figure this out.
As far as I can tell there are no issues with files, etc. unless my ROMs are bad. However, they work on my PC just fine.
PLEASE HELP!
This post has been edited by peter_gibbons69: Feb 25 2008, 08:59 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: hellknight on February 25, 2008, 12:35:00 PM
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Hi i downloaded the newest Surreal64 xxx B5 and it won't load at all it keeps going back to the dash everytime I start it I read the readme and still haven't been able to figure it out any hel would be greatly appreaciated thanx
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Justintoxicated on February 25, 2008, 02:40:00 PM
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guys guys guys, your roms wont transfer because the filenames contain stuff that the xbox can't read,
check the stickied thread for more information about that and faqs on how to correctly mass unzip/rename/rezip your roms.
Hmm I'm not sure that is the case for me. So supposedly we can run zipped file with surreal? I had a zipped file name "Starfox64.zip" Surreal does not find it. However if I unzip, then it works fine.
Just an example I have also tried with ALOT of others...
This post has been edited by Justintoxicated: Feb 25 2008, 10:43 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ploggy on March 09, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
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Does anyone know if this emulator is still being worked on.
The homepage just says coming soon but I think it's been like that for ages. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
This post has been edited by ploggy: Mar 9 2008, 11:56 PM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ploggy on March 10, 2008, 08:20:00 PM
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Anyone ?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ploggy on March 16, 2008, 08:31:00 PM
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AnYoNe ?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Strawboy on March 19, 2008, 11:31:00 AM
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I don't think that they use the Surreal site at all. and yes, it has been there for ages! They will probably just keep upadating it through the program we use to ftp.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ploggy on March 20, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
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Thanks for the reply, I thought I was the only person on the forum for a while there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
This post has been edited by ploggy: Mar 21 2008, 01:04 AM
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ressurectionx on March 21, 2008, 12:02:00 AM
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I could be wrong, but I don't believe that this emulator is being updated anymore for the XBox.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jalaneme on March 25, 2008, 07:20:00 PM
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can anyone help me? i compiled a iso with c xbox tools using the default.xbe included with the emu i put all the n64 roms in the roms folder and burned it to disc, i am using the unleashx dashboard and when i launch the dvd and via the file browser and select default.xbe, i get the loading screen but it resets and goes back to the unleashx dashboard, what am i doing wrong?
i also selected the patched default.xbe and i got the same results, when i selected the project 64 and UltraHLE.xbe it hangs on the loading screen and i have to reset the xbox.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jalaneme on March 25, 2008, 11:08:00 PM
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update, i put the emu on my hard drive and i still get the same problem, can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: neil222 on March 26, 2008, 03:49:00 PM
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Have you tried patching the xbe's yet? (you will have to patch all of them).
Try using DEXBE for this. There are also a number of other programs that can do this.
(make sure to back up your xbe's BEFORE patching them too...)
Hope this helps.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: jalaneme on March 28, 2008, 04:51:00 PM
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i solved it, i just had to refresh the rom list before it would work.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Vectorman0 on March 28, 2008, 05:07:00 PM
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I just installed the newest version and am seeming to have some trouble getting it to use known/default emulator settings.
I installed the program on my xbox, then I renamed all roms to proper sizes and zipped them. At this point, whenever I select any ROMS, it doesn't highlight the good emulator setting. 3 years ago the emulator I had did this, but now it does not. What am I missing?
Thanks.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: pyro169 on April 01, 2008, 01:36:00 PM
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Hey, whenever I go to load a rom it say "Loading Rom" nothing else happens and it freezes the xbox and i have to power it down then turn it back on to get it to respond again ... it does that on all roms that are being used ... anyone know how i can fix this?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: HeavyMetal84 on April 09, 2008, 02:45:00 AM
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I'm having a really weird problem with Surreal. I deleted a bunch of roms and put some new ones on my Xbox, but all the ones I deleted are still showing up on my games list and the new ones I just put on there aren't showing up, and none of the roms are working now. I deleted the emulator and reinstalled it, and only put a couple roms on it but all the games I had on there before are still showing up, and none of them work still.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: neil222 on April 09, 2008, 04:48:00 AM
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Did you refresh your rom list?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: neil222 on April 09, 2008, 04:45:00 PM
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In Surreal XXX, I think you push the yellow button on your controller (it says onscreen somewhere)
In Surreal (v1.0/FDB) you click on the bottom right hand symbol onscreen.
Hopefully this may help....
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: competes2win on April 10, 2008, 08:15:00 AM
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Refreshing it updated the rom list and it's now showing all the correct games, but none of the games still work. When I try to play a game it freezes up on the loading rom screen.
I would delete the stuff in here /E/TDATA/a64fea57 and try again... maybe the respective udata folder as well, as I don't know the difference. Most likely if you start over with a new .ini file things would work.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ressurectionx on April 10, 2008, 08:22:00 AM
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True true....
And kudos to competes2win for telling you the exact folder. I wouldn't have known off the top of my head what it was.
That will work for you. If you got the emu from the usual spot it works 100 percent of the time every time. Sometimes you gotta do a reinstall of everything because something was botched for whatever reason, but I have two XBox 1.6's and I lucked into an XBox 1.0 on accident and there is no difference between compatibility with the two. Any compatibility hurdles you've ever read about scouring for info on the scene is outdated and the masters, most of which seem long gone now, have already fixed all of that.
Good luck, and if you have more problems just post..
~Rx
P.S. for whoever....
Maybe it would be a good idea to make a post and get it stickied that has all of the save folders in TDATA and UDATA for future reference for noobs and experts alike? Just a thought...
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: HeavyMetal84 on April 11, 2008, 12:57:00 AM
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I would delete the stuff in here /E/TDATA/a64fea57 and try again... maybe the respective udata folder as well, as I don't know the difference. Most likely if you start over with a new .ini file things would work.
It worked! Thanks a million dude! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Axl_Mas on June 10, 2008, 05:12:00 AM
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There is a .dat file as for mame emulator for the surreal64 that can help me to delete not working roms?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: TowlieX on June 10, 2008, 03:57:00 PM
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ok so this is really buggin me because surreal used to work perfect on my xbox and now when i try to load a game it loads it up really slow (happens with every single game) . I am not sure what has changed if anything but its really frustrating me. i have tried it from unleashX, and XBMC same problem. i have tried deleting all the files redownloading them and reftping them. didn't work. tried deleting the tdata surreal.ini file. i have no idea what to try next. btw my NES, Genesis, and snes emulators still work perfectly. Not only does it load slow it plays slow... i can't even get majora's mask to work anymore. my xbox also seems to sound funny right when it starts loading a rom up. they are all unzipped. is it possible some or all of my roms have become corrupted?? they all load but everything is just super slow.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: yujinha on June 11, 2008, 04:16:00 PM
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is there anyway to use downloaded saves with surreal? i just started playing wwf no mercy and i really dont want to unlock everything again.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Mr__x_ on September 18, 2008, 12:07:00 PM
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hi guys!!
I've a little problem:I want to add a rom path for n64 roms...in order to load roms boths by hd and dvd...any suggestions? PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Kumoriken on September 22, 2008, 04:46:00 PM
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Alright, I got a bit of a predicament. Wondering if any of you guys can help me.
So I've softmodded my Xbox successfully and all that, and I downloaded a Surreal64 XXX beta, and have been enjoying a few ROMs for about a day now.
But there's one problem. Some of the ROMs that were confirmed to work on Surreal64 V1.0 aren't working.
So I was wondering if it might have to do with the fact that I'm using XXX and not Ver. 1.0. Does anyone know?
Even if it isn't, which emulator would you guys recommend for N64 emulation? Surreal64 1.0, Surreal64 XXX, or something entirely different?
Thanks for any and all help.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: xyteam on September 22, 2008, 04:50:00 PM
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i would suggest using the newest version surreall64xxxb5.you just have to play around with the different settings until you get it working.
what games are you trying to emulate?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Kumoriken on September 22, 2008, 04:53:00 PM
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i would suggest using the newest version surreall64xxxb5.you just have to play around with the different settings until you get it working.
what games are you trying to emulate?
Well on the compatibility list it said Donkey Kong 64 and Conker's Bad Fur Day would work, but they didn't. Just froze at a black screen.
Also, my friend was able to play Pokemon Snap on his Xbox, but the compatibility list says Surreal64 can't handle it.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: xyteam on September 22, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
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ive played conkers bad fur day using the 1964 emu in surreall64xxxb5.it could be your roms.i remember playing donkey kong64 and it was glitchy as hell.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Kumoriken on September 22, 2008, 04:59:00 PM
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ive played conkers bad fur day using the 1964 emu in surreall64xxxb5.it could be your roms.i remember playing donkey kong64 and it was glitchy as hell.
Ah, alright. I'll try another ROM. Thanks. :3
Oh, also...
Do you know if there are any more recent compatibility lists for Surreal? The only one I can find is the one posted in 2004...
...Oh, and Majora's Mask just fatally glitched on me. There's another game that won't work. Hah.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Kumoriken on September 23, 2008, 03:00:00 PM
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Bah, I still don't get it.
Majora's Mask is supposed to work perfectly, and yet it won't work at all.
Are there any sort of settings I should be tinkering with in the emulator to get stuff to work better? And what video plug-in version do you guys recommend?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: competes2win on September 23, 2008, 06:53:00 PM
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Well on the compatibility list it said Donkey Kong 64 and Conker's Bad Fur Day would work, but they didn't. Just froze at a black screen.
Also, my friend was able to play Pokemon Snap on his Xbox, but the compatibility list says Surreal64 can't handle it.
Freezing at a black screen before the rom loads is somewhat of a problem in surreal, at least for some people and in some situations... It happened to me, but I looked up the surreal emulator saves on google, what folders it is I mean and deleted them completely, both folders... and that seemed to fix things. Cant say that this is your problem for sure though, but it would be worth a shot I'd presume.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: xyteam on September 24, 2008, 03:33:00 PM
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try deleting your surreall gamesave from your dashboard.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Kumoriken on September 24, 2008, 03:41:00 PM
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try deleting your surreall gamesave from your dashboard.
Umm.. I'm sorry... Surreal Gamesave?
Aren't Gamesaves for the ROMs?
Are you talking about the saves for the ROMs I have?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Kumoriken on September 24, 2008, 05:05:00 PM
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Alright, you guys. I SORT OF fixed my problem. Hah.
I deleted Surreal64 XXX, and just downloaded the first version of Surreal64, the one released in 2004.
Surprisingly, this one works a hell of a lot better than the newer one. Majora's Mask is now running flawlessly.
It might not LOOK as good graphically, but at least it's running. :3
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ripice on October 01, 2008, 04:50:00 PM
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Starfox 64 appears as unknown, but when you scan the games it appears as Starfox 64. I have to do this everytime i launch the emulator for the name starfox 64 to appear if not it stays as unknown but you choose the game this way and you can play it. What happen? What's the problem?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: dickalan on January 22, 2009, 02:21:00 AM
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I followed the first post's tutorial but I couldn't get surreal to find the roms off my DVD. I pretty much followed it exactly.
So when making an iso you create a 'new folder' > 'Roms' > '007.zip' So basically 'actual roms' are inside the 'Roms' folder and roms folder is inside 'new folder' Correct?
And when making the iso you want to make it of 'Roms' the folder. Not the 'actual roms' nor the 'new folder' Correct?
If so i don't know what I'm doing wrong?
So now i'm trying all kinds of stuff:
I've uninstalled surreal, deleted the 'ms' game save, deleted the tdata\af64..\surreal10.ini
and now i'm back to where i used to be, where roms show up in surreal by hitting the 'Y' button, where it's being accessed through the e/surreal/roms folder.
But that's not what I want!!! I'm trying to save space on my hard drive so i can have a ton of roms for other emulators.
How do I play the roms off a DVD?
Please help!! written tutorial, picture tutorial, video tutorial, whatever will help!!!
thanks in advance!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: SchNiVas on January 24, 2009, 12:01:00 PM
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I Still can't get it to work! I Have XBMC as my dashboard and trying to run the emu's from that app, I updated all my xbe files in my n64 directories. I have tried putting the folder on my F drive AND my E Drive, my kernal version is 5101 and my dash version is 5960. I edited the serreal.ini file match my rom and media directories:
Rom Path=E:\apps\Emulators\n64\Roms
Media Path=D:\Media
Exactly how it's written, exactly where it is.
I am only soft modded, i don't have a modchip.
If you need any more info PLEASE REPLY if you think u can help me!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: xyteam on January 24, 2009, 12:59:00 PM
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i dont know if this helps anyone but you can try.
i have surreall on disc with a full romset and i burned it to the hdd and it works fine on any dashboard.
my paths in the surreal.ini are
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
make sure you are using the newest version of surreall versionb5.
@dickalan yes the roms folder should just be called roms
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: CityOfAngels on March 07, 2009, 02:37:00 AM
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Sorry for resurrecting this thread. Wow I really haven't been here in a loooong time.
So basically I got the urge to play WCW/NWO Revenge, WWF No Mercy, and Virtual Pro Wrestling (the three BEST wrestling games ever IMHO), so I decided to give Surreal64 another try. As before (years ago when I first got my modded XBOX from modchipman), surreal loads up and no roms are on the list.
I decide to try burning the actual emulator onto a DVD, with the roms in a rom file. So I have the surreal folder, and inside the surreal folder is my "ROMS" folder. I edit the .ini to direct it to D:\Roms\. Using CXBoxtool, I create an .iso and burn it with Alcohol.
Surreal64 loaded, but didn't show any roms. I realized I titled the roms folder "ROMS" instead of "Roms", so I fixed that.
Now, Surreal64 loads, but I get this crazy black screen with the white arrows located in the top of the screen, rather than the top and bottom of the screen. Also, the word, "QUIT" is visible in white text (same text as the usual button but without the button). When I move the D-Pad around, It says:
"Rom Size: 128Mbit
Comments:"
in the lower left corner of the screen. Also when I move the d-pad around, I get different values for "Rom Size" like 96Mbit, 128Mbit, and 320Mbit.
If I press Y, X, or B, nothing happens. If I press A, a big, white, rounded rectangle pops up, and underneath it says:
"Add to Favorites
Configure Rom Specific Controllers
Configure Rom Specific Settings".
Please help! I've been working on this for hours, consulting this thread and Google, and I've wasted about 11 blank DVD's with each attempt to get this to work. I am totally stumped, but I REALLY want to play those games. I know this is wierd but I miss them!
Thanks, and sorry for hassling you with this.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: CityOfAngels on March 07, 2009, 07:06:00 AM
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Just to clarify:
I'm using evoX on Xecuter 2 chip.
First version I tried was: Surreal64_FDB_v2
Second version I tried was: Surreal64_xxx_b4
Surreal64_FDB_v2 gave me the results I stated above.
Surreal64_xxx_b4 simply refuses to load and freezes my xbox, even after patching to retail with dexbe.
I tried getting into xbins thru mIRC and Auto XBINS 2008, but with mIRC it logged me in and almost instantaneously banned me. Auto XBINS didn't even get me in; it just stated I was banned. I don't get why.
I'm determined, but starting to feel like this is one dream I won't be realizing.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: CityOfAngels on March 08, 2009, 04:05:00 AM
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Props to waal for solving my problem! Thanks again waal!
Now if only I could get No Mercy to work. But that's not for this thread.
And oh yeah, I meant VPW2, not VPW. VPW is just that WCW game with whats his face william regal.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Cospefogo on March 08, 2009, 01:12:00 PM
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Guys,
Is there a way to play Dr. Mario 64 on Surreal?
The game itself works fine, however the FALLING PILLS can't get to be SEEN!
They are invisible... So, there is no way to play the damn' thing.
Anyone was able to find a correct configuration for Dr. Mario 64?
Best,
Cospefogo.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Jakib2 on April 07, 2009, 05:25:00 PM
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I had Surreal64 working almost flawlessly for about a month. I then decided to override my Zelda OOT rom with the US version from the EUR version because I was having some texture errors and the save menu was all jambled up. Since then, not a single rom has been able to load. I've tried almost every rom I have running it with PJ64 and 1964 and they all freeze at the loading rom phase with no red bar movement. I tried deleting a bunch of rom including the new Zelda and that did not solve it. I rerouted the Surreal64.ini file to E:\Emulators/Surreal64/Roms and that did not work. Can anyone give me a suggestion? Thanks!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: neil222 on April 07, 2009, 07:32:00 PM
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I had Surreal64 working almost flawlessly for about a month. I then decided to override my Zelda OOT rom with the US version from the EUR version because I was having some texture errors and the save menu was all jambled up. Since then, not a single rom has been able to load. I've tried almost every rom I have running it with PJ64 and 1964 and they all freeze at the loading rom phase with no red bar movement. I tried deleting a bunch of rom including the new Zelda and that did not solve it. I rerouted the Surreal64.ini file to E:\Emulators/Surreal64/Roms and that did not work. Can anyone give me a suggestion? Thanks!
Maybe try deleting Surreal and reinstalling it. Also delete your surreal save file.
hallo everyone,i want to play majora mask in surreal 64 but when i play,the game runs slow.why?
Check a few posts above your one for your answer...
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: neil222 on April 07, 2009, 10:18:00 PM
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Where is the surreal save file located. The one .ini in the TDATA?
Can't remember where (at work at the moment)
You can use MS DASH to delete it though.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Jakib2 on April 07, 2009, 11:36:00 PM
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My mistake. I actually let that screen sit for awhile just to see what would happen. After about literally 8minutes the rom finally boots up. any way to quicken this up for me?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Jakib2 on April 08, 2009, 04:33:00 PM
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I deleted the .ini file. uninstalled surreal then installed it again with completely new roms and still takes a year and a day to load up. Any suggestions please?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Jakib2 on April 12, 2009, 09:50:00 PM
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bump for anyone to give me an idea? Thanks
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: neil222 on April 13, 2009, 12:02:00 AM
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Did you delete the surreal game save too?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: palentir on April 13, 2009, 03:52:00 PM
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Hi, I noticed a couple of boxarts missing. I found them from websites, but I'm a little confused as to how to attach them to the roms. The filenames are strange hex looking ones, also in the .INI the tags are hex like too. I thought maybe they are simular but they wern't, then I tried to use a CRC app on a rom file to see if that output was the missing link. But I got totally lost. Is there a known procedure to do this? plz help, thanks..
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: palentir on April 13, 2009, 05:15:00 PM
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I actually managed to answer my own question. regarding adding your own boxart. I must have missed it the first time i read through, but on a few pages back 'Thraxen' kindly explained the procedure.
anyway for anyone who wants a quick answer, use a tool called Tool64, find the rom and goto properties, and use crc1 value. if you need a more specific explination see Thraxen message.
cheers
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: neil222 on April 14, 2009, 10:54:00 PM
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No. where are they located? Is there anyway to keep some of them so i don't loose progress on my savestates?
Not sure of the exact file folder name in your E drive, but I use either "MS DASH" to delete it,
or 'Xbox Save Manager" to connect via FTP to see/delete/backup your game saves.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Bomb Bloke on April 15, 2009, 12:46:00 AM
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If you fire up XBMC/UnleashX's save game managers and highlight the save in concern, it'll give you some info on where it's actually located on the drive.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Millertime2325 on April 17, 2009, 11:49:00 PM
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Okay, anyone familiar with burning this thing to a DVD, I need some help.
I downloaded the XXX B5 version with a ton of (known to be compatable) roms. Tried burning it to a disc, but none of the games would boot.
I looked through this thread for about 10 pages, and I've done everything I can think of.
I downloaded Surreal 1.0 and burned that, no luck. I previously had Surreal XXX B5 installed on my hard drive, so as suggested I deleted the UDATA and TDATA folders for that. no luck. Deleted the Surreal emulator and other files from the hard drive on the box, no dice.
The settings are
Rom Path=A:\Roms\
Media Path=A:\Media\
It's not making sense to me at all - I can't for the life of me get a rom to boot when it's burnt to a disc. Works fine when installed on the hard drive however.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: Millertime2325 on April 18, 2009, 08:49:00 AM
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Can you edit you not edit posts, or am I missing something here?
Anyway, I just wanted to add that the games boot up and get past the loading phase, but get stuck with a black screen after and don't do anything. Forgot to mention that in the post above.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: daddywillwill on September 12, 2009, 02:14:00 AM
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hey
sorry to re-open yet again. but should all n64 roms atleast load to the start menu?
cause i've done everything that is said in the first post but the roms do the 100% load then black screen.
any thoughts on how to fix this?
Thanks
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ressurectionx on September 12, 2009, 02:57:00 AM
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You need to download the roms that have "[!]" in the filename otherwise they won't load.
Same thing happened to me back in the day.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: daddywillwill on September 12, 2009, 03:20:00 AM
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yeah i have.
its kinda weird. i can play some roms but others just dont go past the load screen and go black
like
NBA Jam 99 (U) [!]
NBA Jam 2000 (U) [!]
they don't even run they load then black screen as some others?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ressurectionx on September 12, 2009, 03:33:00 AM
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Did you check the N64 compatibility list? Those game might not play. N64 and PSX emulation on the Box is pretty spotty.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: daddywillwill on September 12, 2009, 03:36:00 AM
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ow ok. so not all games even load.
ok thats cool, was just wondering if it was my workings or the software.
Thanks
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: ressurectionx on September 12, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
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Do Mario64, Mario Kart and Goldeneye start? All 3 of those play pretty well, although MK has a little slow down in multiplayer and Goldeneye has some graphical glitches.
If those three don't start, you've got a problem. I'd remove the emu and whatever the save folder is and reinstall it if you have a problem with any of them.
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: dballs442 on November 11, 2009, 12:19:00 PM
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so i figured out how to change the music during the rom list menu. (replace main.wma in /F/emulators/Surreal64.XXX.B5.1.CE/Skins/Default to what ever .wma you want).
i am asking if its possible to put several music files in and it play a random one at start up?
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: dickalan on May 18, 2010, 01:26:00 PM
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This is kind of a mixed/grey area so please don't get mad at me for posting this here. I was wondering if everyone here was aware of these site that mod the n64 goldeneye and perfect dark games:
http://goldeneyevault.com/
http://www.shootersf...message_boards/
http://www.goldeneyeforever.com/
What they are doing is pretty awesome. Anyway as of now (that I can find) these adapted roms only work on the mupen pc emulator. I was wondering if anyone knew how to port these modded roms (that contain "patches" which change the game in some way) to play on surreal for the xbox. Anyone thought about this or am I the only one?? Thanks for any ideas or help.
I thought maybe this could lead to something:
http://goldeneyevault.com/faq.php#1
since I'm sort of a "noob" I'm not exactly the guy to go around and start programing stuff...
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Title: The Official Surreal64 Help Thread
Post by: SSTG on June 18, 2012, 06:09:00 AM
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Had posted this in another thread though I'd thought I should try this one too about my problem
been recently trying to transfer a save of goldeneye with cheats on to the emulator with no luck I've turned the file to eep so it left me wondering if the right directory was set so I set it to E drive since for some reason it was set to D
I reset back to basic defaults before setting the directory
though now it freezes at the rom selection if I try to go to the menu or try to launch a rom
tried completely removing the whole folder from the xbox and retransfering it with no change
is there a file outside i need to find to get surreal working again?
an older version I put on works just as well but I have the same problem with it trying to read the save file
Unfortunately I did a dumb move and removed a file from outside the surreal64 CE folder and the emulator just restarts Xunleash now
any help would be appreciated
Post by: mr_chips on April 10, 2005, 01:14:00 PM
I think some of them may be corrupt and crashing my xbox when I try to save... I don't mean the N64's internal save like the srm or similar file (I want to keep those!). I mean the one that Surreal64 generates when you press 'save state x'
Post by: Dougpr on April 16, 2005, 12:45:00 PM
Has anyone else had this problem?
Post by: Cubi2k on April 17, 2005, 10:35:00 PM
I also played Banjo Kazooie and i know that i played about 3-4 hours without a little
issue. Does Surreal have a problem with SM64 ? The Rom seems to be ok (tested on an emulator at pc and with goodn64). There is also no sense in configuring the mem settings, because the ram decrease so or so, indepedent with how much ram i started.
My workaround is, that i always watch my free ram, when it approachs the 2 or 1MB limit, i quicksave the game, unload the game, restart it and load my quicksave. It works, but its a little anoying...
Any idea ?
Post by: brownboi_nayyar on April 18, 2005, 01:38:00 AM
Post by: mitch2025 on April 23, 2005, 07:38:00 AM
Post by: Scoobysnaxx on April 24, 2005, 11:11:00 AM
This post has been edited by Scoobysnaxx: Apr 24 2005, 06:17 PM
Post by: shanezam203 on April 28, 2005, 07:32:00 AM
any suggestions? How do I download surreal64 and ftp it over to xbox? I know how to ftp I just need to get the surreal64 file I can ftp over to the xbox and where to put it.
thanks, Shane
Post by: sesamefrench on April 29, 2005, 02:03:00 AM
QUOTE(Cubi2k @ Apr 18 2005, 04:05 AM)
Hmm, i noticed a strange thing with Super Mario 64. When i load and start the game, the mem-description tells me that i have about 17MB in the Menu, and 12MB in the game free to use. The free ram decreases more and more, and after about 15min playing the result is a bad freeze :(
I also played Banjo Kazooie and i know that i played about 3-4 hours without a little
issue. Does Surreal have a problem with SM64 ? The Rom seems to be ok (tested on an emulator at pc and with goodn64). There is also no sense in configuring the mem settings, because the ram decrease so or so, indepedent with how much ram i started.
My workaround is, that i always watch my free ram, when it approachs the 2 or 1MB limit, i quicksave the game, unload the game, restart it and load my quicksave. It works, but its a little anoying...
Any idea ?
I also played Banjo Kazooie and i know that i played about 3-4 hours without a little
issue. Does Surreal have a problem with SM64 ? The Rom seems to be ok (tested on an emulator at pc and with goodn64). There is also no sense in configuring the mem settings, because the ram decrease so or so, indepedent with how much ram i started.
My workaround is, that i always watch my free ram, when it approachs the 2 or 1MB limit, i quicksave the game, unload the game, restart it and load my quicksave. It works, but its a little anoying...
Any idea ?
i have the same problem with more games with Surreal64, i use whatever emulator that seems to be working best with the game im playing (1964 for paper mario, ultra for mario64 etc)
ive played around with the paging and dyna mem settings, which gives me more mb's to start with but they decrease anyways until hitting zero and freezing the games
anyways, i didnt have this problem until recently when i started using savestates, maybe it can be result of corrupt savestates? does anyone know how to delete savestates?
Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on April 30, 2005, 10:53:00 AM
Post by: Robbie_Ice on May 01, 2005, 08:33:00 PM
I am using surel64 and I can never get it to work! mad.gif
It wont pic up roms. And also how do I know which roms work with it??
Post by: Tybriah on May 05, 2005, 02:17:00 PM
Post by: Xanados on May 06, 2005, 03:44:00 AM
First at all i´m from Germany so please excuse my bad english.
I have read all the forum posting about Surreal64 but i could not find the answer to my problem.
If i want to open a rom it´s just loading, then it flashes for 0.0002secs and then its black again.
But thats only by some games!
Like SuperMario64 or Ocarina of Time.
What can it be?
How can i solve it?
Thanks for your answers!
Post by: jvsjmedia.nl on May 12, 2005, 08:11:00 AM
-Banjo Tooie
*All = Black screen
-Conkers Bad Fur Day
*1964 = Only the "older audience only" message appear and after that the game gives black screen.
*Project64/UltraHLE = Black screen
-Donkey Kong 64
*1964 = Stuttering sound
*Project64/UltraHLE = Black screen
-Goldeneye 007
*All = Only the file choose screen stutter, after selecting a file, its oke.
Can somebody PLEASE help me fixing these problems? I BEG YOU...
Especially "Conkers Bad Fur Day" and "Banjo Tooie" I wanted to play...
This post has been edited by jvsjmedia.nl: May 12 2005, 03:16 PM
Post by: Second on May 14, 2005, 07:18:00 PM
So I switched it to all of these:
d:\emulator\surreal64\roms
d:\surreal64\roms
e:\roms
e:\surreal64\roms
e:\emulators\surreal64\roms
and none of them worked. I don't use or have an F drive so that's out of the question. When I changed the .ini file I only did it inside the Surreal 64 folder and not the TDATA folder.
So do I have to do it in both? And if so which do I name the rom path?
Post by: jvsjmedia.nl on May 15, 2005, 05:15:00 AM
Post by: Zyyke on May 15, 2005, 09:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Second @ May 15 2005, 12:48 AM)
My Surreal 64 won't recognize any roms I put in it. At first I left the surreal.ini to have the rom path be d:\roms, but that didn't work!
So I switched it to all of these:
d:\emulator\surreal64\roms
d:\surreal64\roms
e:\roms
e:\surreal64\roms
e:\emulators\surreal64\roms
and none of them worked. I don't use or have an F drive so that's out of the question. When I changed the .ini file I only did it inside the Surreal 64 folder and not the TDATA folder.
So do I have to do it in both? And if so which do I name the rom path?
So I switched it to all of these:
d:\emulator\surreal64\roms
d:\surreal64\roms
e:\roms
e:\surreal64\roms
e:\emulators\surreal64\roms
and none of them worked. I don't use or have an F drive so that's out of the question. When I changed the .ini file I only did it inside the Surreal 64 folder and not the TDATA folder.
So do I have to do it in both? And if so which do I name the rom path?
Changing your surreal.ini in the Surreal64 folder has no effect. All settings in the surreal.ini is loaded into the cache (TDATA folder) the first time you start Surreal. Future changes/configuration is saved in that copy of the .ini file. Editing the surreal.ini in the emulator folder does nothing.
The easiest way to to solve this "problem" is to clear your cache. This is easily done by locating your Surreal 64 gamesave using your MS Dash Gamesave manager, and delete it. Then changes done to the "original" surreal.ini will be loaded into the cache when you start Surreal. Refersh your rom list, and everything should be a-ok.
I suggest you use e:\[path of your emulator]\ROMs. If your emulator is located in e:\emulators\surreal64\ I would use e:\emulators\surreal64\roms as your rom-path.
You could also do some reading in the Beginners Guide. Ths guide contains a link to a "how-to" on configuring emulators (including surreal 64).
Good luck!
Post by: Second on May 15, 2005, 01:10:00 PM
Post by: KevKevKev on May 15, 2005, 07:59:00 PM
When playing Surreal64 games the game is zoomed in a bit too much and I can't figure out how to change the display! Dohhh
Post by: iggyemu on May 16, 2005, 11:09:00 PM
I have ran Surreal64 and there still isn't an ini file in there.
Here is the path on E drive that I am viewing /E/TDATA/a64fea57/
Any help would be appreciated.
Post by: HoRnEyDvL on May 19, 2005, 10:37:00 PM
Just a quick question any 1 got a settings list for 128mb xbox that helps you gets roms 2 play better eg. golden eye 007 ,perfect dark, bamjo kazooe, zelda ect.
If not be awesome if some 1 could get 1 up.
Ill let u guys know what i find.
Post by: Dolfhin on May 22, 2005, 09:32:00 AM
Post by: xYxExAxHx on May 22, 2005, 09:46:00 PM
Post by: c0ncept on May 23, 2005, 12:32:00 PM
Paul
Post by: Sosha on May 23, 2005, 01:16:00 PM
someone mentioned before you need to rename the file to that of the rom (with the .n64 extension) and but it in the E:\saves directory but where exactly? surreal hasnt created a directory in there so im lost basically
thanks
Post by: mvyvoda on May 24, 2005, 06:35:00 PM
my problem is after i select which rom to run, the screen turns black, and nothing happens. i have to get off of my lazy ass and reset the box (need to mod my controller for a reset button!).
plz help!?
thanks,
mark
Post by: wacco on May 25, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
QUOTE(mvyvoda @ May 25 2005, 02:10 AM)
oh man, i hate doing this.... but, this page is ridiculous... i mean, 37 pages. it's impossible to find anything specific. well, i am running surreal64, did the goodwindows thing, all my roms are showing up.
my problem is after i select which rom to run, the screen turns black, and nothing happens. i have to get off of my lazy ass and reset the box (need to mod my controller for a reset button!).
plz help!?
thanks,
mark
my problem is after i select which rom to run, the screen turns black, and nothing happens. i have to get off of my lazy ass and reset the box (need to mod my controller for a reset button!).
plz help!?
thanks,
mark
Try deleting the Surreal64 savegames from the Tdata/Udata folder and try again-. If still no luck, then try deleting the Surreal64 main folder with every contents and re-upload your roms and contents of folder.
Post by: mvyvoda on May 25, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
QUOTE
Try deleting the Surreal64 savegames from the Tdata/Udata folder and try again-. If still no luck, then try deleting the Surreal64 main folder with every contents and re-upload your roms and contents of folder.
hmm, where can i find the actual savegames in the TDATA/UDATA folders?
thanks a ton,
mark
Post by: intheb0x on May 25, 2005, 03:47:00 PM
thanks
Post by: DT778 on June 02, 2005, 01:29:00 AM
QUOTE(mvyvoda @ May 24 2005, 05:10 PM)
oh man, i hate doing this.... but, this page is ridiculous... i mean, 37 pages. it's impossible to find anything specific. well, i am running surreal64, did the goodwindows thing, all my roms are showing up.
my problem is after i select which rom to run, the screen turns black, and nothing happens. i have to get off of my lazy ass and reset the box (need to mod my controller for a reset button!).
plz help!?
thanks,
mark
my problem is after i select which rom to run, the screen turns black, and nothing happens. i have to get off of my lazy ass and reset the box (need to mod my controller for a reset button!).
plz help!?
thanks,
mark
If the rom you downloaded is a v7 file then you need to use 7zip to extract it. I don't know if thats a problem for you but that fixed mine.
Post by: mvyvoda on June 02, 2005, 07:21:00 PM
Post by: c0ncept on June 04, 2005, 07:58:00 AM
Post by: j4y3m on June 05, 2005, 05:32:00 PM
I'm using Surreal 64 XXX (B3) and a lot of games don't seem to work that well, they boot but either have frame rate issues or seem out of control (GoldenEye).
Can someone post the best setting for GoldenEye 007, Perfect Dark and WWF No Mercy...
I've searched the forum but didn't really find much that would help...
This post has been edited by j4y3m: Jun 6 2005, 12:43 AM
Post by: DeathR1derX on June 07, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
Post by: jonathan2007 on June 09, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
QUOTE(j4y3m @ Jun 5 2005, 06:07 PM)
Can anyone help me get these games running properly?
I'm using Surreal 64 XXX (B3) and a lot of games don't seem to work that well, they boot but either have frame rate issues or seem out of control (GoldenEye).
Can someone post the best setting for GoldenEye 007, Perfect Dark and WWF No Mercy...
I've searched the forum but didn't really find much that would help...
I'm using Surreal 64 XXX (B3) and a lot of games don't seem to work that well, they boot but either have frame rate issues or seem out of control (GoldenEye).
Can someone post the best setting for GoldenEye 007, Perfect Dark and WWF No Mercy...
I've searched the forum but didn't really find much that would help...
Yeah I just tried GoldenEye (didn't wanna bust out my N64) and it was all screwy. I am using some XXX release (I think it is pretty current). Oh well though I may just have to bring out my n64 and play the game old style. It was a great game! :popcorn:
Post by: foog on June 12, 2005, 11:22:00 AM
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time
Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask
1080
thanks for any help.
Post by: Phrosty on June 18, 2005, 08:54:00 AM
Post by: Big Al on June 18, 2005, 12:29:00 PM
QUOTE
alright, just got the latest surreal xxx b4. what are the best settings for you guys on these games?
Add Mario Tennis for me. Both 1965 and PJ start out slow and then lock up. The third emulator doesn't even run.
Post by: Ryouga on June 19, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
QUOTE(Big Al @ Jun 18 2005, 02:04 PM)
Add Mario Tennis for me. Both 1965 and PJ start out slow and then lock up. The third emulator doesn't even run.
i'm also using XXX b4 and ultrahle doesn't work for any games i've tried either, right now i've attempted to play kirby 64 with all 3 and 1964 and PJ64 do work, though there is lagging, occasional freezing and texture errors. i guess i'll try some of the tips for finding the right amount of memory to use. still no luck with ultrahle
Post by: Iriez on June 20, 2005, 12:11:00 PM
If you are not able to run kirby, then most likely you have a bad rom. Have you used good tools to find out which rom you have?
I could always play kirby fine (with the normal textual errors and crashes =p ). Then again, i havnt tried the new xxx beta's ...so im not sure.
Post by: Ryouga on June 20, 2005, 05:02:00 PM
EDIT:
oh, i don't know if this makes any difference but when i installed surreal64 i only edited the surreal ini to point to my roms, i left the ultrahle ini alone. was i supposed to edit it or something? i assumed i wouldnt have to because nothing about that was mentioned so i just left it as is.
This post has been edited by Ryouga: Jun 21 2005, 12:07 AM
Post by: Ryouga on June 20, 2005, 05:34:00 PM
Post by: PENiX on June 24, 2005, 12:13:00 PM
Anyone else have this problem or have a solution? I've tried removing the savedata and there isn't much else for me to try.
If you can help, thanks.
Post by: Ryouga on June 24, 2005, 04:03:00 PM
QUOTE(PENiX @ Jun 24 2005, 01:48 PM)
Hey, quick question here... I did controller settings in the romlist of Surreal 64 and set all 4 controllers to "Enable", specifically for the game "Star Fox". The problem is when I go to Versus mode, only 2 players show up (for each of the different gametypes)... I have no idea why it won't allow all 4. I was thinking 4 player mode might be an unlockable, but I can't be too sure because I bought Star Fox 64 (the cartridge) used, a long time ago, and everything on it was already unlocked.
Anyone else have this problem or have a solution? I've tried removing the savedata and there isn't much else for me to try.
If you can help, thanks.
Anyone else have this problem or have a solution? I've tried removing the savedata and there isn't much else for me to try.
If you can help, thanks.
do you know if the game supports 4 players? if the original game does not, i doubt the rom will either.
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 27, 2005, 02:09:00 AM
Post by: manalicream on June 27, 2005, 10:07:00 AM
I have an xbox with an enigmah chip in it. After taking ages to work out how to change my dashboard, I then discover that surreal64 wont load. it either freeses on now loading screen with evox or goes to a blank screen on other dashboards. It never actualyl enters the emu itself. I have tried other emus and they work.
On the front page it suggests i may need to patch the emu, but i have no idea how to.
So, if you can help that would be great. I have a lot of roms i wanna play!!
Post by: tuna629 on June 27, 2005, 11:13:00 PM
When i use surreal 64 (installed from a xbox boot disk i found online), it works flawlessly. The question i have is that what format does Surreal 64? When i checked in the folder with roms that came with the boot disk, they are in ".zip" format. And I've also uploaded a rom unto my xbox ("Super Smash Bros") in the extension of ".rom". It loads and everything, but it was extremely slow to the point that i couldnt even play it. And when i load the game, there was an option of choosing "1964" or other emulators, i choose the one in the middle since it's the only one that loads Super Smash Bros. But the games that came with the boot disk ("Mario Kart" "Mario 64" etc) works perfectly with any of the emus in Surreal 64. So what's the problem here?
Second question, I've recently downloaded several N64 roms in the extension of ".7z", and when i decompressed them i found out that the extension is ".z64". I tried to use them in Surreal 64, but it doesnt work; in fact Surreal doesnt even recognize them as games. So what other formats(extensions) are supported by Surreal? Is there any way for me to convert .z64 to .rom? Thanks in advance.
This post has been edited by tuna629: Jun 28 2005, 06:15 AM
Post by: serious samzors ultra 1337 on June 28, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
Thanks.
Post by: lancerx on June 30, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
quote=tuna629,Jun 28 2005, 06:48 AM]
Hi all, I'm new to the forum, and I'm also new to Surreal 64.
When i use surreal 64 (installed from a xbox boot disk i found online), it works flawlessly. The question i have is that what format does Surreal 64? When i checked in the folder with roms that came with the boot disk, they are in ".zip" format. And I've also uploaded a rom unto my xbox ("Super Smash Bros") in the extension of ".rom". It loads and everything, but it was extremely slow to the point that i couldnt even play it. And when i load the game, there was an option of choosing "1964" or other emulators, i choose the one in the middle since it's the only one that loads Super Smash Bros. But the games that came with the boot disk ("Mario Kart" "Mario 64" etc) works perfectly with any of the emus in Surreal 64. So what's the problem here?
Second question, I've recently downloaded several N64 roms in the extension of ".7z", and when i decompressed them i found out that the extension is ".z64". I tried to use them in Surreal 64, but it doesnt work; in fact Surreal doesnt even recognize them as games. So what other formats(extensions) are supported by Surreal? Is there any way for me to convert .z64 to .rom? Thanks in advance.
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Read here for games that works and wich emulator is the best.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=260140
About the ext, well, z64 or v64 should work fine, 7z won't.
This post has been edited by lancerx: Jun 30 2005, 05:13 PM
Post by: lancerx on June 30, 2005, 10:58:00 AM
QUOTE(serious samzors ultra 1337 @ Jun 29 2005, 02:54 AM)
I was wondering where your n64 save files are located on the xbox hard drive. I've been playing paper mario and zelda on my pc and want to send the saves over to my box to continue them, but I have no idea where the hell it stores your saves.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Use the xbox save manager to see if it is stored on E, and by the way, i don't think that pc saves can be loaded on the xbox, see, pc emulator saves different than xbox, well no so sure about it, meybe you can convert and save into de xbox.
Post by: heemid on July 03, 2005, 11:44:00 PM
Post by: Dark Drake on July 07, 2005, 06:56:00 PM
Post by: GametagAeonFlux on July 08, 2005, 04:06:00 PM
Post by: GametagAeonFlux on July 08, 2005, 06:47:00 PM
And as for the saves, XBSM doesn't show anything but the Surreal64 directory, and putting things there doesn't do anything.
Post by: Versitile on July 11, 2005, 03:29:00 AM
Post by: Uraiser on July 16, 2005, 06:09:00 PM
Post by: Ownedc4 on July 21, 2005, 03:28:00 AM
[Settings]
Rom Path=F:\Roms
Media Path=F:\Media
Default Controller Config=00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17
Default 1964 Dyna Mem=8
Default 1964 Paging Mem=4
Default PJ64 Dyna Mem=16
Default PJ64 Paging Mem=4
Default Use LLE RSP=1
Default Max Video Mem=5
Post by: Dalpura on July 24, 2005, 03:14:00 AM
The other day I decided I want to play some N64 roms again, so I got a copy of Surreal64 FDB V4, as I'd deleted my old copy whaterver version that was a while ago. So I go to play a rom, chose the emulator, (1964, Project64, Ultra) and it seems to load, but just takes me back to the rom list. But doesn't show any names, but you can still navigate, see the names and covers and such. I tried another version of Surreal64, version 1.0 I believe it was. Did the same thing. Now it's odd, because whatever version I had running last time worked fine. So what would the problem be? And how would I go about fixing it?
Cheers.
Post by: DirtyMonkey on July 28, 2005, 01:47:00 PM
Post by: Xmod_beginner on July 28, 2005, 07:37:00 PM
Post by: Darklord89 on July 29, 2005, 03:36:00 AM
When i go on to my xbox i carnt see it...Its really frustrating.
Any help?
I have a evoX dashboard (softmodded).
It isnt my FTP playing up cuz ive uploaded things succesfully loads of times and its says success.
Thanks alot.
Post by: Darklord89 on July 29, 2005, 05:31:00 AM
Whats wrong?
Thx.
Post by: scotty g on July 31, 2005, 03:48:00 PM
any help would be appreciated, thanks
Post by: 007ohmss on August 01, 2005, 11:10:00 AM
My question is: I play Mario Kart 64 (ok) but when i "connect" the mempack, the game says something like it`s full... how can i delete the data in the mempack?
Sorry, but ì looked and didn`t find it...
P.S. Can you explain me step by step, like i was 6 years old?
Keep up the MARVELLOUS WORK
Post by: rcarey on August 01, 2005, 07:09:00 PM
Anyway, before I start - rest assured I have read this entire thread...but still am not sure what direction to take. All I'm looking for is some helpful advice.
I downloaded the Surreal 64 emulator, and extracted the files into a folder. The Surreal.ini file has the default path for Roms in: D:\Roms\ - so I created a Roms folder to put the Roms in.
Now, perhaps it is a mistake on my part when extracting files for the roms, but I am unzipping the files, and then usually taking the (U) [!].z64 file and putting it into my roms folder. Is this right?
Anyway - once I have my roms in the folder, I make an iso file using Qwix for the entire folder containing the roms folder, default.xbe, .ini files, etc. etc.
I am then burning this iso file as an image using Nero.
Then, when I put the CD into my drive, the Xbox is recognizing the disc as a game, and up comes the surreal 64 screen! So, this is good. However, when I go to the icon on the bottom right-hand of the screen, to load the roms, it will quickly say "Loading Rom list" for a split second, but nothing comes up.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Post by: Link267 on August 13, 2005, 11:33:00 AM
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Post by: Dude_Son on August 17, 2005, 02:58:00 AM
Post by: PENiX on August 20, 2005, 12:49:00 PM
I have a question. Running Surreal from the hdd, with verified roms, i've been having a problem where the roms will only allow me to have 2 players. Mario Party 3 and Star Fox specifically. I did the normal steps to get it to work, rom settings, controller settings, and enable controller 3 and 4. It saves because each time i load it up the settings are still there. But it only shows up that 2 controllers are plugged in in the rom.
Any ideas?
Post by: vannillabear on August 28, 2005, 08:08:00 AM
I want to edit the surreal.ini file so that its set to default to the best emulator as suggested here Surreal Compatibility Lis and maybe even using the settings suggested here Surreal Performance Settings
Im just looking for some pointers on how to correctly edit it, say for example the mario kart bit looks like this:
Game Name=MARIOKART64
Alternate Title=Mario Kart 64 (U) [!]
Comments=Playable
Preferred Emulator=0
1964 Paging Mem=6
Can someone tell me what number relates to which emulator in Surreal (1964, Project64 and UltraHLE)?
(I think) I can figure out that its also setting the pagin in 1964 to 6 meg, but what other variables are there? Looking through the ini file there are some for Dynamic Mem, Paging Mem and Max Video Mem. How do I correctly use them?
Thanks in advance.
Post by: voodoo721 on August 30, 2005, 06:03:00 PM
Post by: Barnolde on August 30, 2005, 07:42:00 PM
QUOTE(heemid @ Jul 4 2005, 01:19 AM)
Anyone have Mario Cart or Diddy kong racing working with 4 players? I enable the 3 & 4 player but they don't work in the game, it there an ini file or something I need to change, thanks
I've got the same problem, I've got the 3rd and 4th controllers plugged in, but they just won't move, at all. They don't respond and I've checked the ini files and I don't see anything for this.
4 player worked fine with Surreal 64 regular, but with Surreal 64 XXX, I can only get 2 players to work.
Post by: Grinvon on August 31, 2005, 09:21:00 PM
What could be the problem, and how can I solve?
Thanks all! :)
Post by: hyperion916 on August 31, 2005, 11:28:00 PM
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Post by: bborders33 on October 01, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
Post by: jinn on October 05, 2005, 12:30:00 PM
Post by: shadow_blaze on October 06, 2005, 08:12:00 PM
could somebody plz help me with this problem cause i love banjo tooie,
cheers
Post by: TVDX on October 07, 2005, 01:11:00 PM
The X-box loads most of them up fine.
However, when it comes to 2 player in something like DIddy Kong for example or Road Rash, the game squeezes the second player screen down to a narrow view thus making the 1 player slot the only playable. Diddy Long racking works fine with 1 Player.
This was used with 1964 and various different settings on the video memory.
Can anyone help?.
Post by: Teforeon on October 12, 2005, 09:17:00 AM
THX :beer:
This post has been edited by Teforeon: Oct 12 2005, 04:23 PM
Post by: DatDude on October 20, 2005, 05:30:00 PM
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on October 20, 2005, 05:38:00 PM
Post by: DJuniah on October 21, 2005, 07:27:00 AM
although, i was wondering if its possible to import save states and game saves from my PC. I tried looking for where it puts its saves but i couldnt find em anywhere. I saw something about save states in the ultraHLE ini file but thats it
Post by: jimmyj on October 22, 2005, 12:46:00 AM
Jimmyj
Post by: DatDude on October 22, 2005, 08:08:00 AM
I used dexbe, opened the default.xbe then hit patch to retail version, then clicked save, loaded it to the box with no luck again.
Is there any hope
Post by: DaBiscuit on October 22, 2005, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE(DatDude @ Oct 22 2005, 03:19 PM)
my eyes are so tired, i just browsed all the pages on gettin surreal to work, this is the second time that ive tried to get this program to run, the full file set and roms show up when i use my file explorer but all the xbes fail to run.
I used dexbe, opened the default.xbe then hit patch to retail version, then clicked save, loaded it to the box with no luck again.
Is there any hope
I used dexbe, opened the default.xbe then hit patch to retail version, then clicked save, loaded it to the box with no luck again.
Is there any hope
Are you using Surreal64 v1.0? If so, try one of the Sureall64 XXX beta versions. They work on some X-Boxes in my experience which won't run the 1.0 version.
Post by: maniac87 on October 23, 2005, 12:03:00 AM
i also tried to run pj64 it runs ok but cannot run the games i tried to put the roms in the place where it tells you to put them but doesnt work already read the it woud not work but tryin to give you as muck info
i am also using retail hd
Post by: DaBiscuit on October 23, 2005, 04:50:00 AM
QUOTE(maniac87 @ Oct 23 2005, 07:14 AM)
ok i have an excuter 2.6 ce with bios 5035 and evox 3935 i cannot access d or f by ftp or even by looking in them with wmc what is the problem and how can i fix it
Wrong forum.
QUOTE
i also tried to run pj64 it runs ok but cannot run the games i tried to put the roms in the place where it tells you to put them but doesnt work already read the it woud not work but tryin to give you as muck info
Do you mean the pj64 that is a part of Surreal64 or the standalone pj64?
Post by: Themicles on November 01, 2005, 10:57:00 PM
I am using the very latest (at the time of this post) release of Surreal64xxx.
Surreal64 launches. All roms show up. If I launch with 1964, the games run, but don't run properly. ie. Zelda Ocarina of Time has horribly corrupted textures. I tried both PJ64 and UltraHLE, but both load the ROM to a blank screen, and a frozen Xbox.
I've tried reinstalling Surreal64 from scratch, and tried all kinds of combinations of settings to try and get this working properly.
Any ideas?
Post by: Js-The-One on November 02, 2005, 02:14:00 PM
If someone can tell me exactly what I should do, I would be most grateful.
:blink:
Post by: DeBigMachine on November 04, 2005, 09:56:00 PM
When i start up the latest release of surreal, everything works up until it says "loading rom". Afterwards it just freezes and i cant do anything.
Help would be appreciated.
Post by: HeeZy on November 15, 2005, 01:29:00 PM
QUOTE(DeBigMachine @ Nov 5 2005, 12:03 AM)
Hello, i have a softmodded 1.6 Xbox with XBMC as the main dashboard.
When i start up the latest release of surreal, everything works up until it says "loading rom". Afterwards it just freezes and i cant do anything.
Help would be appreciated.
When i start up the latest release of surreal, everything works up until it says "loading rom". Afterwards it just freezes and i cant do anything.
Help would be appreciated.
i have the same problem.
its trying to load the rom, then resets to the dash. using b4.
Post by: Beelzebub1 on November 24, 2005, 06:36:00 PM
OK, I have surreal v1.0, and I am running it from the evox dash. I also have a copy on CD-RW with a few roms on the cd. now, my xbox runs the cd, and I can play very slowly, but when I try to start from the hard drive, the screen is mostly black and shows a few of the box arts, and I can navigate the roms. When I try to start a rom, it freezes. I know Evox is bad idea for Surreal, so what should I use?
This seems like a memory problem, as it does load, but I don't know how to free up memory to make the program run.
I know I might be asleep at the wheel, but we dufuses need help.
Post by: GametagAeonFlux on November 27, 2005, 07:18:00 PM
QUOTE(DJuniah @ Oct 21 2005, 08:34 AM) 
I got this installed and it works GREAT!
although, i was wondering if its possible to import save states and game saves from my PC. I tried looking for where it puts its saves but i couldnt find em anywhere. I saw something about save states in the ultraHLE ini file but thats it
I'm looking for an answer to that too. I downloaded a save game from GameFAQs just to see what the file type was...I found a .N64 to answer that question, anyone know where to find those on the Xbox? Or just know how to get save games on there?
Post by: TheSchonk on December 02, 2005, 01:00:00 AM
Post by: TheSchonk on December 02, 2005, 02:30:00 AM
QUOTE(TheSchonk @ Dec 2 2005, 03:07 AM)
I cant get the games to show up. I installed surreal64 xxx in F:\Emulators. I put Legend of Zelda, The Ocarina of Time (U)(v1.2)[!].v64(I renamed it to The Legnd of Zelda so it would fit) in F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms\ and it doesnt show up. So I changed the Surreal ini from Rom Path=D:\Roms\ to Rom Path=F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms\ and still nothing. So then I checked the TDATA to see if there was an ini file but there wasnt. So I changed the ini file back to Path=D:\Roms\ and this is where im at.
Never Mind
Post by: TheSchonk on December 02, 2005, 06:41:00 AM
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Post by: TheSchonk on December 02, 2005, 08:08:00 PM
Post by: SmifNWessun on December 03, 2005, 02:19:00 AM
The roms, media and skins folders are all on the root directory as well as
default.xbe
PJ64-531.xbe
PJ64-510.xbe
PJ64-560.xbe
Project64X.rdb
1964-531.xbe
1964-510.xbe
1964-560.xbe
UltraHLE.xbe
RiceDaedalus5.1.0.ini
RiceDaedalus5.3.1.ini
RiceDaedalus5.6.0.ini
1964.ini
surreal.ini
ultra.ini
temp.ini
Post by: SmifNWessun on December 04, 2005, 01:41:00 PM
Post by: CSJimmy on December 04, 2005, 08:25:00 PM
Post by: SteelFox15 on December 09, 2005, 09:33:00 AM
When I click the right thumbstick during the game, the in-game menu shows up (Save state, Load state, Display Debug Info, etc), but I can't see which option I have selected, making it kind of hard to do anything.
Anyone know what could be wrong? Thanks for any help.
Post by: SteelFox15 on December 09, 2005, 11:25:00 AM
Post by: bigshooter13 on December 11, 2005, 04:18:00 PM
QUOTE(puscifer @ Sep 8 2005, 10:57 AM)
This has probably been posted before, but I couldn't find it by searching. I'm playing Zelda:OOT right now, and for some reason, some of the 2D backdrops (for example, outside the temple of time, or the overhead view when you first enter Hyrule) are corrupted/scrambled looking, while others appear just fine. I'm using the newest Surreal64 XXX with the US 1.2 version of the rom and I've tried all three of the video plugins to no avail. Is there anything that can be done about this? Will changing some setting or using a different version of the rom fix this?
Boy this thread seems like solid questions with no answers. I am having this same problem. I read that with previous versions of surreal you could switch the audio plugin and that would fix the "snow" but the latest surreal only has the option of switching to basic audio which doesn't fix the problem. Anyone have a fix for this?
Post by: cRACKmONKEY421 on December 13, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
Xbox version 1.0
Bios version iND 2005
Post by: cRACKmONKEY421 on December 14, 2005, 04:24:00 PM
Mario Kart works fine with all 4 controllers
The following games I have only been able to use with 2 controllers:
StarFox 64
Goldeneye 007
Mario Tennis
Others haven't been tested yet. All of those roms worked fine in Surreal 1.0 with all 4 controllers. Anyone else get similar results or know how to fix this?
Other than that everything works great. Massive slowdowns are still an issue in a lot of games except with Rice 5.31 plug-in
Post by: Dirvance on December 18, 2005, 08:39:00 AM
Surreal won't display textures right. On games that do work certain textures are missing (like fonts, whole menus, any "special effect" etc.).
In certain games one emulator will display all textures but stutter like crazy, then one will display most textures maybe stutter on the intro but gameplay will run smooth, and then one emulator won't load the game at all.
So from what i have read in this thread will adjusting the DYNA REC and PAGING MEM help Surreal display these textures properly? Also will they help games that don't run at all run?
Post by: sototallyfast on December 25, 2005, 01:38:00 AM
I'm running Surreal64, and was playing Mario64 on my softmodded xbox. I havent had any other problems with the game, and got around 10-15 stars no problem. After I turned off my xbox and played the game a few weeks later, my save game data was lost, and for some reason, a random cheat where I have 100 lives, and the wing hat all the time (with huge jumps) was permanently on the game, regardless of the emulator I used or the save game slot (a,b,c,or d, all were empty).
Im thinking I might not have exited Surreal correctly (by exiting to the rom list, and then leaving surreal) for the game to start (if you even need to do that), but I dont understand why the save game was lost. Any clues?
Post by: Palmtree on December 27, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
QUOTE(bigshooter13 @ Dec 12 2005, 12:25 AM)
Boy this thread seems like solid questions with no answers. I am having this same problem. I read that with previous versions of surreal you could switch the audio plugin and that would fix the "snow" but the latest surreal only has the option of switching to basic audio which doesn't fix the problem. Anyone have a fix for this?
I have the same problems as well. Also, I noticed a few other problems, like some of my hearts in the top left disappearing or showing the wrong amount of remaining hearts, and certain maps in the bottom right don't show your position (lost woods comes to mind, maybe even all dungeons even if you have a compass.)
I have just upgraded from a very early version of surreal64 to surreal64xxx beta 4.9, and aside from the problems mentioned above, I think it's great. Text and colors are much more crisp, and it seems much more stable with most of the games I have tried. Hopefully another version will be out soon, or someone finds a fix for these problems in the current version (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: HiPNoTyQ on December 28, 2005, 10:36:00 PM
I'm using Zelda oot 1.2
Post by: ryker on December 30, 2005, 05:36:00 AM
Post by: AbRASiON on December 30, 2005, 11:11:00 PM
QUOTE(HiPNoTyQ @ Dec 29 2005, 06:43 AM)
Zelda oot and mm are the only games I cant get working (besides res evil 2). Im running Surreal XXX (latest version) and trying them on 1964 to no avail, ive tried messing around with the memory and setting it high and stuff, but no luck.
I'm using Zelda oot 1.2
It just plain doesn't work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) you need the PC emulator - the Xbox N64 emulation side of things is dead.
The people who write Surreal 64X FDB thingo need to patch up their relationship with the PJ64 folk - but (iirc) there's some kind of pissy-fit in the emulation scene so everyone hates everyone and we all lose out.
Sad.
Post by: HiPNoTyQ on January 06, 2006, 09:44:00 AM
Post by: Thraxen on January 06, 2006, 04:10:00 PM
Post by: noya on January 09, 2006, 09:55:00 AM
I tried all versions of surreal and apart from v1.0 none of them display properly inside houses etc with the zoom out view. But 1.0 crashes a lot :/ I've also tried with 1.0! and 1.1! rom versions. Any ideas how to get it runing ok?
Post by: mr_foot on January 10, 2006, 11:12:00 PM
Firstly, I'd like to apologize if this question has already been answered. I looked through about 13 pages (out of 43) in this thread and also searched the forums with Google, but had no luck. Here's what is happening to me:
I've got BOTH Surreal64 v1.0 AND Surreal64 XXX beta v4-9.
Surreal64 v1.0 works fine, but Surreal64 XXX beta v4-9 does NOT recognize my controller AT ALL, no matter what port I plug it into. I saw that some people were having problems when they were plugged into Port 2, well I am having the same problem with all the ports.
If anyone has come across a solution to this problem, please post here.
Thanks a lot.
PS I've got a controller Type S if that makes a difference. Don't have the other kind to try out...
- mr_foot
Post by: jtardiou on January 11, 2006, 03:35:00 PM
QUOTE(cRACKmONKEY421 @ Dec 15 2005, 02:31 AM)
Here's a little update after some testing with surreal XXX 4.9beta:
Mario Kart works fine with all 4 controllers
The following games I have only been able to use with 2 controllers:
StarFox 64
Goldeneye 007
Mario Tennis
Others haven't been tested yet. All of those roms worked fine in Surreal 1.0 with all 4 controllers. Anyone else get similar results or know how to fix this?
Other than that everything works great. Massive slowdowns are still an issue in a lot of games except with Rice 5.31 plug-in
Hey for the games you tested with Surreal64xxxb_4.9,
what did you run them with? what rice plugins? etc
Thanks!
PS: I also sent you a PM regarding this, in case you don't check this thread again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Post by: PirateElf on January 14, 2006, 01:43:00 AM
The load time for any game is almost unreal. At a clocked time of about 10 solid minutes before the xbox stops saying "Loading rom" to it actually loading the rom. I have deleted the game save, tried a full re-install. Nothing takes forever.
Also I was reading that this version broke the turok series but if anyone is kind enough perhaps they know the settings to make Turok Ragewars run? Any emulator? I always get locked up on it.
Thanks for the support
Post by: Link527 on January 14, 2006, 03:53:00 PM
QUOTE(CGMneon @ Jan 7 2004, 10:59 PM)
Thanks for the great post, Iriez. Your first entry filled in all the gaps for me.
Just wanted to say that not all patcher programs work the same way; the dexbe patched perfectly when the other programs didn't. (Oh, sure, those programs would say they worked, but they didn't.)
Everything is going great for me now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Hola a todos , era para comentar que yo hace pocos dias compre un juego (emulador) de nintendo 64 que se llama surreal 64, en este juego he jugado casi todos los juegos, aunque en algunos juegos, no puedo jugarlos, n realidad no se porque, bueno al punto, hay un juego en este emulador que se llama the legend of zelda majoras mask, bueno en este juego todo iva bien hasta que me di cuenta que la aguja del reloj que marca el tiempo cuando estas jugando y te dice la hora, que es fundamental en este juego, no esta me gustaria saber porque? y como se puede solucionar, o donde comprar un juego igual que pueda jugar este juego ya que me gusta mucho. Sin mas que decir, me gustaria que me mandaran un mail con la respuesta mi direccion de correo es: [email protected]. ahh y soy de caracas - venezuela.
Post by: PirateElf on January 15, 2006, 02:15:00 AM
QUOTE(Link527 @ Jan 14 2006, 11:24 PM)
Hola a todos , era para comentar que yo hace pocos dias compre un juego (emulador) de nintendo 64 que se llama surreal 64, ..........
I wish I spoke that... (off topic but still)
Post by: XBCube on January 15, 2006, 01:49:00 PM
nvm, you have to enable the controllers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) how retarded
This post has been edited by XBCube: Jan 15 2006, 10:33 PM
Post by: Faid1 on January 27, 2006, 06:34:00 PM
Post by: Speil on January 29, 2006, 03:38:00 PM
Please Help
Post by: Jer4251 on February 02, 2006, 02:05:00 AM
Post by: Thraxen on February 02, 2006, 02:11:00 AM
QUOTE(Jer4251 @ Feb 2 2006, 02:36 AM)
No matter what i do, my N64 roms will not show up, i've removed the folder in the tdata and udata and rerouted my roms and made sure they were all in the right place. and nothing. wont show up. ive messed with the surreal.ini and it never finds my roms, i've tried for a few days now. what should i do now? I'm running evox 3935 and xbmc to run the emulators. my other emulators all work fine.
Delete your Surreal game save and get a fresh copy of the emulator. Don't edit anything in the ini file. Then install the emulator and put your ROMS in a folder named "Roms" in the emulator install directory.
So, for example, if you have Surreal installed here: F:\Emulators\Surreal\
Then put your roms here: F:\Emulators\Surreal\Roms\
Post by: bigdoo on February 02, 2006, 05:12:00 PM
Post by: goleafsgo_21 on February 02, 2006, 09:08:00 PM
in the surreal.ini file i have a bunch of code that looks like this
[Settings]
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
Default Controller Config=00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0
A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,
16,0D,17,00,01,02,03,08,09,0A,0B,04,05,06,07,0C,10,11,16,0D,17
Default 1964 Dyna Mem=8
Default 1964 Paging Mem=4
Default PJ64 Dyna Mem=16
Default PJ64 Paging Mem=4
Default Use LLE RSP=0
Default Use Basic Audio=0
Default Max Video Mem=4
[001A3BD0-AFB3DE1A-C:46]
Game Name=TARZAN
Alternate Title=Disney's Tarzan (F) [!]
Comments=Playable - No Sound
Preferred Emulator=0
[0198A651-FC219D84-C:50]
Game Name=FIFA 99
Alternate Title=FIFA 99 (E) [!]
Comments=Playable - Slightly slow
... and it goes on
...my question is?
What do all the listings for games mean does my title of my surreal game need to match that exactly.
Also if anyone could point me to a guide for installing n64 roms to the hard drive it would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Post by: Jayson745 on February 08, 2006, 08:57:00 AM
When I pick a game(usually a few versions of each) it brings me to choose what to launch with(1964,PJ64, or UltraHLE) and I understand that which one is alot of trial and error to find one working. And I saw that someone on MS is building a compatability list. But then if I pick 1964 or PJ64 it asks what plug-in to use Rice 5.10,5.31, or 5.60. As you can see that makes a rediculous amount of combinations and most of them take me to a black screen. Got a few to work though.
My QUESTION: what is a plug-in/rice and is one better than another so I can cut my launch combinations down and mabey get a few more of these games working? The list compiled on MS does not say anything about plug-in or rice anything. I know this is probably a dumb question but I loved the n64 system and am about to play mario64(1 of 3 games I got to work so far) while I wait for a responce (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: timdog82001 on February 10, 2006, 02:10:00 AM
QUOTE(Link527 @ Jan 14 2006, 11:24 PM)
Hola a todos , era para comentar que yo hace pocos dias compre un juego (emulador) de nintendo 64 que se llama surreal 64, en este juego he jugado casi todos los juegos, aunque en algunos juegos, no puedo jugarlos, n realidad no se porque, bueno al punto, hay un juego en este emulador que se llama the legend of zelda majoras mask, bueno en este juego todo iva bien hasta que me di cuenta que la aguja del reloj que marca el tiempo cuando estas jugando y te dice la hora, que es fundamental en este juego, no esta me gustaria saber porque? y como se puede solucionar, o donde comprar un juego igual que pueda jugar este juego ya que me gusta mucho. Sin mas que decir, me gustaria que me mandaran un mail con la respuesta mi direccion de correo es: [email protected]. ahh y soy de caracas - venezuela.
What he's asking is....he has surreal 64, he can play most games fine, but when playing the legend of zelda majora's mask, the clock hand, an essential part of the game, isn't there. He wants to know how to fix this problem if posible. His email is [email protected].
Post by: timdog82001 on February 10, 2006, 02:20:00 AM
Post by: Harlock_Gbase on February 10, 2006, 05:08:00 AM
QUOTE(XBCube @ Jan 15 2006, 09:20 PM)
i seem to only be able to play games with 2 controllers on 4 player games. is there support for more than 2 controllers, or could it be something on my end?
nvm, you have to enable the controllers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) how retarded
well, that trick does not work for me unfortunately. Whichever game i take i can enable the controllers how much i want, it never works. As soon as i leave the game to see what's happening the controllers are disabled again. And in fact even if you enable them it doesn't save the setting so when you start up again then you still won't have controller 3+4 working....
Post by: MikeAkehurst on February 10, 2006, 05:15:00 AM
I have just been given a DVD image with Surreal64 on, along with a number of games. I burnt it to dvd and it all works fine and everything (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But it runs off the DVD. Is there a simple way to move them all onto the xbox hard drive so they will play from there?
Thanks
This post has been edited by MikeAkehurst: Feb 10 2006, 01:18 PM
Post by: zaboo on March 17, 2006, 09:24:00 PM
Post by: SlyBeast on March 28, 2006, 05:29:00 PM
Post by: thehouse719 on March 30, 2006, 04:09:00 PM
Mike.
Post by: zaboo on April 01, 2006, 08:44:00 AM
Refresh the rom list, in the bottom right of the screen there is a button that looks like an arrow going in a circle.
Post by: irishwhip on April 01, 2006, 09:45:00 AM
Post by: Dude_Son on April 07, 2006, 03:15:00 PM
Post by: KnightRyder3714 on April 17, 2006, 09:28:00 AM
I have Surreal64 installed to:
F:\Emulators\Surreal64\
and my roms are located:
F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms
Surreal wont show my listing of roms.
I have tried editing Surreal.ini to point to the roms but it never seems to find them. They are not zipped up and this is what I have tried so far:
Rom Path=D:\Roms
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Rom Path=F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms
Rom Path=F:\Emulators\Surreal64\Roms\
Can anyone give me some help please?
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Post by: jorwex on April 24, 2006, 04:01:00 PM
is there anything that the DVD version mightve written to the harddrive that might conflict w/ the harddrive one i have installed?
i made a copy of the UDATA & TDATA surreal folders on to my pc, and then deleted the ones on my xbox to see if that would fix anything, and its the same.
any ideas?
Post by: unknownmalice on April 25, 2006, 07:03:00 AM
I posted this only in hopes that it will help anyone that may have had the same problem(s)
my xbox is as follows:
Softmodded with EvoX Mechassault Save Hack
Bios : EvoX M7(Old, i know...but havent had any problems that i couldnt fix with a couple file edits....)
Xbox Version : 1.5 I believe(the most recent one as of December 2005)
Dashboards used to run(both each time i tried to run it):EvoX 3935+, UnleashX 0.39.0222A Build 572
EDIT:
Dude_Son:
to get DVDR to work in your xbox you must make a iso of the files you wish to put on the dvdr, and it must be an xiso(use an xbox iso creation program)
also make sure whatever game/program you want to run is named default.xbe in the root of the dvdr. After that simply burn the .iso you made to the dvd using nero, achohol or any other prog that will burn a disc image to the dvdr
so you could make a dvdr that will run surreal as soon as it starts, simply make an xiso with surreal and all it's files in the root, put the roms in the default roms folder and you should be good(no need to edit the .ini)
This post has been edited by unknownmalice: Apr 25 2006, 02:15 PM
Post by: jorwex on April 25, 2006, 11:17:00 AM
Post by: sofa king dumb on May 05, 2006, 07:12:00 PM
Post by: sofa king dumb on May 06, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
QUOTE(sofa king dumb @ May 6 2006, 01:43 AM)
hello, when i try to play a game it says saving settinggs then says loading rom 0% and then just goes back to showing the boxarts, it does it on all my games and they all work fine with surrela xxx but they do this on sureal 1.0, please help
anyone, please help
Post by: Thraxen on May 06, 2006, 12:42:00 PM
Post by: sofa king dumb on May 06, 2006, 08:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Thraxen @ May 6 2006, 07:13 PM)
Try deleting any Surreal saves from the MS dash and then try the emulator again.
didnt work,any otheres?
Post by: Alvarez89 on May 24, 2006, 12:10:00 PM
My setup is as follows
X2.4983.BIOS
Evox dashboard
Both .ini's (the one in the surreal folder and the one in TDATA) both match
i really dont know what i need to change/fix. Can someone help me? ill keep checkin the forum in the meantime.
Post by: foxxfella on May 24, 2006, 12:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Alvarez89 @ May 24 2006, 01:41 PM)
Alright so im sure this problem has already been solved by a million people, but i cant solve it. I got Surreal64 on my xbox, and all the roms are showing up, but they do the 'loading _%" then they just freeze and i got to restart my whole xbox.
My setup is as follows
X2.4983.BIOS
Evox dashboard
Both .ini's (the one in the surreal folder and the one in TDATA) both match
i really dont know what i need to change/fix. Can someone help me? ill keep checkin the forum in the meantime.
What version of surreal are you using, and what rom are you trying to load? Some games are incompatible and will not run, and even lock up your xbox, so you should refer to the compatibility list. Make sure you are using the correct romsets by checking with goodn64 tool.
This post has been edited by foxxfella: May 24 2006, 07:23 PM
Post by: Trevor spencer on May 24, 2006, 12:36:00 PM
in emu's like fbaxxx you can posistion the screen with the thumb sticks which is great but i cant seem to find an option for this on surreal
ive noticed on my surreal set up screen the option : generalsettings and unknown specific settings are greyed out ?
any help would be great
Thanks
Trev
Post by: nsrwin2 on May 28, 2006, 11:05:00 AM
QUOTE(Harlock_Gbase @ Feb 10 2006, 01:39 PM)
well, that trick does not work for me unfortunately. Whichever game i take i can enable the controllers how much i want, it never works. As soon as i leave the game to see what's happening the controllers are disabled again. And in fact even if you enable them it doesn't save the setting so when you start up again then you still won't have controller 3+4 working....
I have the same problem, I can't get controller 3 and 4 to work. As mentioned above, enable them won't do anything. Anyone knows how to solve this problem? I realy want to play Mario Party with my friends (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: SCARFACELOU519 on June 03, 2006, 06:52:00 PM
Post by: SCARFACELOU519 on June 04, 2006, 11:26:00 AM
Post by: KeepItStudded on June 04, 2006, 03:41:00 PM
changed extensions to.v64
zipped and unzipped files
changed rom and media path correctly
messed with tdata
and after all this roms will still not load
any help would be appreciated
Post by: micbic on June 05, 2006, 05:53:00 AM
QUOTE
My problem is that i have done everything you can do for surreal 64 and no matter what my roms do not show up.
changed extensions to.v64
zipped and unzipped files
changed rom and media path correctly
messed with tdata
and after all this roms will still not load
any help would be appreciated
changed extensions to.v64
zipped and unzipped files
changed rom and media path correctly
messed with tdata
and after all this roms will still not load
any help would be appreciated
Make sure your roms are checked with GoodN64 and make sure the roms are compatible via the compatability list.
Post by: foxxfella on June 05, 2006, 01:56:00 PM
QUOTE(KeepItStudded @ Jun 4 2006, 05:12 PM)
My problem is that i have done everything you can do for surreal 64 and no matter what my roms do not show up.
changed extensions to.v64
zipped and unzipped files
changed rom and media path correctly
messed with tdata
and after all this roms will still not load
any help would be appreciated
Hi
What exactly did you do to the tdata file?
what is your rom path?
Post by: need4speed2006 on June 10, 2006, 12:47:00 PM
Post by: MAGiC333X on June 12, 2006, 01:52:00 PM
I'm pretty new to the emulation on xbox scene and i'm having a problem:
Games don't load using Surreal64 v1.0, the roms show up and all, but they won't load.
I select a rom, for example Super Mario 64, then i press A and it says: Saving settings, then another thing, then i can see very briefly something with loading and 0%, but it just kicks me back to the menu, like it reboots or something.
I've also tried using SurrealXXX 4.9, roms also showed there, games loaded fine, but then it gives me a black screen (that's why i tried v1.0).
Running x-box modded with Aladdin Advance (Xecuter2 bios), bios version (as stated in the ms-dash): 4980.06. I'm not using Evo-X or any other dash, just M$.
I first burnt SurrealXXX with all the roms onto a DVD, above noted the results. Then burnt the Surreal64 v1.0 to a cd-r (Samsung drive).
The ini setups:
SurrealXXX D:\Roms and D:\Media
Surreal64 v.10: A:\Roms and D:\Media
I believe they are correct (otherwise i shouldn't see any roms etc. right?)
Can someone please help me get this to work?
Thanks in advance!
Post by: mundofr on June 23, 2006, 05:00:00 PM
What can i do?
Post by: DaBiscuit on June 27, 2006, 10:59:00 AM
Post by: Dr Feetuss on June 28, 2006, 08:25:00 PM
Post by: micbic on June 30, 2006, 02:24:00 AM
QUOTE
Hello everyone!
I'm pretty new to the emulation on xbox scene and i'm having a problem:
Games don't load using Surreal64 v1.0, the roms show up and all, but they won't load.
I select a rom, for example Super Mario 64, then i press A and it says: Saving settings, then another thing, then i can see very briefly something with loading and 0%, but it just kicks me back to the menu, like it reboots or something.
I've also tried using SurrealXXX 4.9, roms also showed there, games loaded fine, but then it gives me a black screen (that's why i tried v1.0).
Running x-box modded with Aladdin Advance (Xecuter2 bios), bios version (as stated in the ms-dash): 4980.06. I'm not using Evo-X or any other dash, just M$.
I first burnt SurrealXXX with all the roms onto a DVD, above noted the results. Then burnt the Surreal64 v1.0 to a cd-r (Samsung drive).
The ini setups:
SurrealXXX D:\Roms and D:\Media
Surreal64 v.10: A:\Roms and D:\Media
I believe they are correct (otherwise i shouldn't see any roms etc. right?)
Can someone please help me get this to work?
Thanks in advance!
I'm pretty new to the emulation on xbox scene and i'm having a problem:
Games don't load using Surreal64 v1.0, the roms show up and all, but they won't load.
I select a rom, for example Super Mario 64, then i press A and it says: Saving settings, then another thing, then i can see very briefly something with loading and 0%, but it just kicks me back to the menu, like it reboots or something.
I've also tried using SurrealXXX 4.9, roms also showed there, games loaded fine, but then it gives me a black screen (that's why i tried v1.0).
Running x-box modded with Aladdin Advance (Xecuter2 bios), bios version (as stated in the ms-dash): 4980.06. I'm not using Evo-X or any other dash, just M$.
I first burnt SurrealXXX with all the roms onto a DVD, above noted the results. Then burnt the Surreal64 v1.0 to a cd-r (Samsung drive).
The ini setups:
SurrealXXX D:\Roms and D:\Media
Surreal64 v.10: A:\Roms and D:\Media
I believe they are correct (otherwise i shouldn't see any roms etc. right?)
Can someone please help me get this to work?
Thanks in advance!
This problem has happened to me before as well, try deleting the surreal 64 save game from your msdash and then retrying. Worked for me
Post by: ganstadj864 on June 30, 2006, 01:28:00 PM
Post by: HeeZy on June 30, 2006, 02:56:00 PM
i have my xbox hooked up through HD component video. i use surreal v1.0 and load up mario64, but the screen isn't clear with every game i tried. there are problems with de-interlacing or something?
is there a way to play surreal on an HD TV/Monitor? i have all the HD outputs setting set to On.
Post by: thechitchatter on July 05, 2006, 11:10:00 PM
[Settings]
Rom Path=F/Apps/Surreal64_FDB_v2/roms
i then restarted my xbox and ran the program and- no roms found (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif) . i refresh - and again, no roms found. if someone could help me with this that would be awsome because i'm over my head here and have no idea what to do.
NOTE: because i was unsure of what to do with rom, i put two things in the ROMS folder:
MarioTennis.7z AND the 7z unzipped in a folder called Mario Tennis. i'd also like to kno about that.
Help would be greatly appreciated!
Post by: iagorh on July 06, 2006, 07:53:00 AM
Post by: ruatu on July 08, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
Post by: bigmacattack on July 10, 2006, 10:33:00 PM
i have mine going off my e drive right now
credit to this thread http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/68681
btw i'm and evil softmoder
This post has been edited by bigmacattack: Jul 11 2006, 05:37 AM
Post by: micbic on July 11, 2006, 01:56:00 AM
Post by: tonymanxx on July 11, 2006, 06:31:00 PM
Post by: Vangar on July 12, 2006, 01:25:00 AM
I've got a small problem with Jet Force Gemini. All my other ROMs work fine, but once Jet Force Gemini is loaded it doesn't respond to the joystick or the triggers, it acts as if i have 5% sensitivity - Juno pulls his gun yet doesn't fire, and he walks incredibly slow. Otherwise it is emulating fine.
What am i doing wrong here?
Thanks,
Evan/Vangar
Post by: biohazard on July 21, 2006, 08:50:00 AM
Post by: The_Fuzileiro on July 21, 2006, 04:37:00 PM
Post by: Krazzt on July 22, 2006, 01:39:00 PM
I have tinkered with nothing, all I did was set the .ini to point to the correct roms folder (E:\Roms\)and I left D:\Media\ as it was.
Any idea what's going on?
This post has been edited by Krazzt: Jul 22 2006, 08:44 PM
Post by: Alvarez89 on July 24, 2006, 12:37:00 PM
QUOTE(foxxfella @ May 24 2006, 12:53 PM)
What version of surreal are you using, and what rom are you trying to load? Some games are incompatible and will not run, and even lock up your xbox, so you should refer to the compatibility list. Make sure you are using the correct romsets by checking with goodn64 tool.
I tried using both Surreal64xxx_b4.9 and Surreal64 v1.0. I have about 30 roms on my Harddrive that i've tried to load, using Project64, UltraHLE, and 1964. All i ever get is "%_Loading" then it freezes on a black screen. I completely removed Surreal 64 from my xbox and tried over from scratch, following instructions in forums, but still no luck.
Post by: The_Fuzileiro on July 25, 2006, 09:09:00 AM
Post by: micbic on July 26, 2006, 05:47:00 AM
QUOTE
Sorry but... this emulator is a pain in the ass... it need a complete reconfiguration...
Dont like it? Make your own. This emulator is not hard at all to configure 99% of the time unless you screw with the inis.
Post by: dgjpokaplaya on July 30, 2006, 01:08:00 PM
renaming files and confirming game files with goodn64,goodwindows and stuff
changing the surreal.ini rom source to the correct directory for my roms
tried loading the roms with the refesh in surreal64
i cant think of anything else to do its like ive tried all i can find. please help me!! thanks alot!
Derek
Post by: VampX on July 30, 2006, 02:32:00 PM
QUOTE(dgjpokaplaya @ Jul 30 2006, 08:39 PM)
ive tried all i can find.
Derek
Well since the answer is in the Pinned thread i doubt you even tried to find the answer.
Post by: dgjpokaplaya on July 30, 2006, 05:02:00 PM
thanks
Derek
and i dont know what a pinned thred is? prob dumb but i really don tknow
Post by: VampX on July 30, 2006, 06:28:00 PM
QUOTE(dgjpokaplaya @ Jul 31 2006, 12:33 AM)
and i dont know what a pinned thred is? prob dumb but i really don tknow
(IMG:http://home.wanadoo.nl/vampiro/xboxscene/pinned.jpg)
Post by: dgjpokaplaya on July 30, 2006, 07:00:00 PM
Derek
Post by: Ecksbox on July 30, 2006, 07:13:00 PM
Post by: thebluesgrunger16 on July 30, 2006, 08:09:00 PM
Post by: micbic on July 31, 2006, 12:55:00 AM
QUOTE
I cannot get star wars rouge sqad to load, or indiana jones and many others, I just get a black screen, anyone have a sugg?
check the compatability list, i dont think these games work on surreal.
Post by: joezz4293msn on August 03, 2006, 09:50:00 AM
[email protected]
Post by: korn_16_f_t_l on August 04, 2006, 03:42:00 AM
I ran GOODN64 on my rom collection and had all my roms placed into to there corresponding directorys (i.e gooddump, bad dump, pd, ect. ect.) and all the other emulators seem to be able to work from sub directorys from the ROM's folder i thought that sureal would also.
i placed all the corresponding folders (good dump, bad dump, ect., ect.) in to the ROM's folder and it either seems i am wrong or the .ini of surreal can only point to one sub directory at a time (i re-wrote the .ini to read as follows /F/Emulators/Surreal64xxx_b4.9/Roms/gooddump and it loaded the ROM's on the game select screen) is there any other way to keep my roms sorted and be able to browse them freely with out having to re do the .ini file every time?
should i just install all 3 emulators individually (i.e pj64) and point all the emulators to the same rom folder and run my ROM's on a trial and error basis (i.e if one dont run on pj64 exit pj64 and try it on the next emulator)?
I am also curious of the advantages and dis advantages of this method.
p.s.
I have also tested this on sureal v1.0 and sureal xxxv1.9b and neither seem to support sub directorys.
Also from what i have read only certin ROM's w/ certin names that are in the .ini files will run and i am aware that some of my collection may not run ( it is ok because i will be able to recover what ever those roms are from my xbox and play them on my pc......i think)
This post has been edited by korn_16_f_t_l: Aug 4 2006, 10:44 AM
Post by: korn_16_f_t_l on August 04, 2006, 01:54:00 PM
Post by: ncloet on August 25, 2006, 11:32:00 AM
Any help is much appreciated!
Post by: PatchBokov on August 28, 2006, 06:28:00 PM
Surreal64 work like a charm with my Xbox. However, since I set the fan speed to 80 % in Xbmc, when I use an emulator, the fan speed drop to something like 40 or 50 %.. How could I edit that ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Post by: etrain1984 on September 12, 2006, 11:10:00 AM
Post by: etrain1984 on September 12, 2006, 03:20:00 PM
This post has been edited by etrain1984: Sep 12 2006, 10:20 PM
Post by: etrain1984 on September 13, 2006, 10:06:00 PM
Post by: micbic on September 16, 2006, 11:00:00 PM
QUOTE
Having a problem with surreal xxx... when playing mario 64 and in the world tiny-huge island, when I go down one of the pipes to warp it freezes every time... any ideas what the problem is?
This game works perfect on surreal v1.0
Post by: Stabtakulor on September 18, 2006, 08:12:00 AM
My problem is running it with project 64 in surreal. I was able to run it in 1964, but it had numerous graphics and texture problems, much like it did when I ran it on the computer version of 1964. Project 64 looked really nice on the computer though, and that was what I was hoping would work, but neither that one, nor Ultra HLE worked with Perfect Dark. When I try to load it, it says loading, gets to 100%, then goes to that black screen.
Here is all relevant information for reference:
Surreal Version: 1.0
Romname: Perfect Dark (U) (V1.1) [!] (confirmed with good 64)
Emulators tried: All three attempted; only 1964 successful
Modding method: Softmodded, with no modifications done to hardware
Using NTSC
I have also made sure all the paths are correct; I have the roms stored on my hardrive on drive E, and have modified the surreal.ini file to access this path.
This post has been edited by Stabtakulor: Sep 18 2006, 03:13 PM
Post by: xenomorpher on November 08, 2006, 05:15:00 AM
QUOTE(Stabtakulor @ Sep 18 2006, 08:43 AM)
I have a problem running Perfect Dark on the emulator, and I did not see any topics that really helped me, so I decided to go ahead and post one myself.
My problem is running it with project 64 in surreal. I was able to run it in 1964, but it had numerous graphics and texture problems, much like it did when I ran it on the computer version of 1964. Project 64 looked really nice on the computer though, and that was what I was hoping would work, but neither that one, nor Ultra HLE worked with Perfect Dark. When I try to load it, it says loading, gets to 100%, then goes to that black screen.
Here is all relevant information for reference:
Surreal Version: 1.0
Romname: Perfect Dark (U) (V1.1) [!] (confirmed with good 64)
Emulators tried: All three attempted; only 1964 successful
Modding method: Softmodded, with no modifications done to hardware
Using NTSC
I have also made sure all the paths are correct; I have the roms stored on my hardrive on drive E, and have modified the surreal.ini file to access this path.
Perfect Dark won't load for me either as well as Turok: Rage Wars. I am using a Softmodded Xbox as well and I am in the same exact boat as you.
Post by: Nemo1985X on November 08, 2006, 11:07:00 PM
QUOTE
Some games, like perfect dark, simply need more memory than a 64mb xbox can provide with the current core. It needs about 16mb dyna and 16mb paging in order to run smooth.
Also you may need some more RAM...
Post by: Denelic on November 14, 2006, 03:17:00 AM
I then took the DVD to my friends and put it in his XBox, which never had Surreal on it, to find out if it was the DVD. It loaded the list in a couple of minutes, complete and working perfectly. I then put it back into my XBox, waited for it to load and played a couple of the games that did load. Worked fine. I deleted the Surreal folder from my Apps directory, but it still does not work.
What could be my problem? Dirty laser or maybe the wrong type of media? Or is there soem kind of file I need to delete left over from when Surreal was installed on my HD that is causing the bug?
Post by: VampX on November 14, 2006, 06:21:00 AM
QUOTE(Denelic @ Nov 14 2006, 10:48 AM)
Or is there soem kind of file I need to delete left over from when Surreal was installed on my HD that is causing the bug?
Yep. you didnt remove the surreal save from the msdashboard, thats why it worked at your friends place.
because like you said yourself and put it in his XBox, which never had Surreal on it,
lesson #1 : just removing the app does not mean you have uninstalled it, remove the savegame too.
Post by: Denelic on November 14, 2006, 06:37:00 AM
Post by: xboxdrivnmemad on November 25, 2006, 03:45:00 AM
please i just bought modded xbox (second hand from a dealer) so lets just assume it has all the neccessary bits to run this emulator.
ok iv downloaded surreal64 unzipped it on my pc. iv got ftp connection to xbox. just give me simple idiot proof steps on what to do.
do i just copy the surreal folder to the xbox?
i dont want to run off cds and dvds i just want it all on the xbox.
iv been readin this topic for days
im lost with the whole d: drive thing
i managed to do the rename of the roms and alsothe dexbe thing.
i can see the surreal icon in the programs list on the xbox so i open it and it just freazes on blank screen.
let me know if i have to remove files befor startin this all again
i have a few roms and downloaded surreal 64 just tell me wher to put them (permantly) and how to put them there.
thank you guys
and if im stupid please feel free to say so (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: uzumaki on November 29, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxdrivnmemad @ Nov 25 2006, 05:16 AM)
firstly iv gone over iriez post over and over again and i need help.
please i just bought modded xbox (second hand from a dealer) so lets just assume it has all the neccessary bits to run this emulator.
ok iv downloaded surreal64 unzipped it on my pc. iv got ftp connection to xbox. just give me simple idiot proof steps on what to do.
do i just copy the surreal folder to the xbox?
i dont want to run off cds and dvds i just want it all on the xbox.
iv been readin this topic for days
im lost with the whole d: drive thing
i managed to do the rename of the roms and alsothe dexbe thing.
i can see the surreal icon in the programs list on the xbox so i open it and it just freazes on blank screen.
let me know if i have to remove files befor startin this all again
i have a few roms and downloaded surreal 64 just tell me wher to put them (permantly) and how to put them there.
thank you guys
and if im stupid please feel free to say so (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
First make a folder called Surreal64 xxx. Then copy the contents of the zipped file in that folder. You need to edit the surreal.ini in there with notepad and reupload it. All you need to edit is the Rom path to where your roms are located inside the surreal folder, for example mine is:
CODE
[Settings]
Rom Path=F:\emus\Surreal64 XXX\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
Rom Path=F:\emus\Surreal64 XXX\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
Leave the Media path as is. That's all I had to do to get it running.
Post by: dajon on November 30, 2006, 06:11:00 AM
This post has been edited by dajon: Nov 30 2006, 02:11 PM
Post by: A Murder of Crows on December 03, 2006, 08:06:00 AM
till now.
the big question i have is....should i run multiple versions of Surreal?
i see the compatiblity chart telling me that a lot works on Surreal 1.0. I see the best Emu thread tell me to use Surreal 64 XXX or the other one.
Logic Sunrise tells me Surreal XXX is dead.
so...what's the proper answer? is it even possible to run both Surreal v1.0 and surreal XXX on the same box?
lastly, is there any way to make the emu remember the settings when you select a game?
thanx all
Post by: dick_justice on December 03, 2006, 12:49:00 PM
so will a rom ending in .z64 work with surreal?
conker didn't for me
Post by: micbic on December 03, 2006, 04:06:00 PM
QUOTE
so will a rom ending in .z64 work with surreal?
yes it should
Post by: A Murder of Crows on December 08, 2006, 01:07:00 AM
Post by: BIGT889 on December 08, 2006, 08:30:00 AM
QUOTE(Iriez @ Jan 7 2004, 08:22 AM)
Since there seems to be a million kazillion threads, im going to do this in effort to clean up this forum. If you have a issue with surreal64 loading or playing games read here first, and try any suggestions in relation to your problem. If it is not fixed after trying, then reply with your specific problem.
Firstly, are you having problems loading the emulator? Does it freeze on loading/black screen? Check these things..
Are you running a 4977 bios? (One thats been patched for lba48) Or 4978? Both are known to cause issues -
Reflash with a evox bios, or 4976.06 or 4979.06/67 +
Do you have all the correct files and folders on your xbox? (most specifically the media directory, default.xbe and surreal.ini)
Are you using a old modchip such as xecuter 1, or enigmah/xtender? - Try patching first (all your xbe files)with dexbe to retail, and if that doesnt work your going to need to use Phoenix Bios Loader (PBL) to boot another bios into memory before launching. This will not go into support for using PBL. Please use at your own descretion.
People who cannot get it to load by patching with dexbe should also try xbe patcher
Are you having a problem with your Roms not showing up?
First and formost, have you edited the Surreal.ini *before* you run it to point to your roms?
You need to change it to be Rom Path=F:\Path\to\your\roms . If you are putting the roms in the 'roms' folder inside your surreal64 install dir, then make the Rom Path=D:\Roms
If you have already ran Surreal64, then your ini was saved to the TDATA folder, and you have to edit it there.
/E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini <-- That is the path to it. Simply edit that file right there to reflect the directory of your roms, and then launch the emu and hit the 'refresh' button in the lower right hand corner.
Are you trying to run Roms off the dvd and cannot get it to work?
First, you must create a xiso of your roms. Create a New folder...name it whatever you please. Go into it, and make a directory called "Roms". Put all of your N64 Roms in there. Use Simple Xiso and select that 'new directory' that you created for creating a xiso. The point is to create a xiso with a roms folder on there, and NOT your roms on the root directory of the disk. If you put them directly on the disk it will not work. Create the xiso, and burn using record now max or nero or whatever your favorite burning software is. Make sure you are using media your xbox can read, i.e. if you have a samsung you can use cd-r, if not you can only use cd-rw/dvd-r/dvd+r. If you have not launched surreal64 on your xbox, then you can edit your ini right there to say A\:Roms or if you have already launched it you must edit /E/TDATA/a64fea57/Surreal.ini to reflect A:\Roms . Relaunch Surreal64 with your disk in the tray and hit the refresh button.
Are certian Roms not showing up?
Check your roms!
GOODN64
Download Goodn64, bin.zip, and good windows. Extract them all to a directory of your choice. In goodwindows select 'Good tool' as your mode, and then select Nintendo 64 as your system. The rom directory is in the lower left corner, simply choose the directory of your roms, then hit the big button on the lower right (Should say Goodn64.exe rename). It will put all of your roms renamed properly in a N64Ren folder, and any bad/unknown in another.
If a specific rom is not showing up, and you have renamed it, check and make sure the surreal.ini has a entry for it. Example...
You have Banjo-Kazooie (E) [!].zip and for some reason its not showing up. Open surreal.ini with a text editor (most of you will use notepad, but use ultraedit if you have it).
Do a search for Banjo until you find the entry for that rom. In this case..it would be
[733FCCB1-444892F9-C:50]
Game Name=Banjo-Kazooie
Alternate Title=Banjo-Kazooie (E) [!]
Comments=Playable
Preferred Emulator=0
If your rom has been renamed by goodn64, and does not show up, you should not be able to find it in the surreal.ini. This is merely a confirmation of what exactly is happening. If this is the case, obtain the correct version of the rom. All (U) and (E) [!] roms are supported (to show on the romlist). Also, if your zip file is compressed a certian way (dont ask me which way) surreal may not be able to extract the rom from the zip to verify the crc. If this is not the case, and your rom IS renamed, AND you have found the entry for it in the ini (and you are sure it is the correct rom), you've tried unzipping, and it is still not showing up, then i have no clue = ) I would advise you contain another version supported by the surreal.ini
If you have a rom that you have verified to be a good dump, and transfered it to your xbox, and refreshed your romlist, and it is *still* not showing up, then unzip the rom and transfer it, instead of the zip archive. The reason this might happen is because its using a non standard compression, and surreal 64 wouldnt be able to unzip it to see which rom it is.
Also, in regards to romplaying/stability/capability i have noticed that evox takes more memory somehow if launched from it (the dashboard, not the bios). I would imagine the reason is because evox patches the kernel, and also uses debug TSR tools. Try to not launch surreal64 from evox to minimalize any problems.
---ROM CONFIGURATION SECTION---
Most of the games should run fine with the default settings.
For audio you only have two choices, Azimer, which is the audio source from apollo used with jttl's SDL sound output, or PJ RSP, which is the basic audio plugin with LLE.
If a game is not playing (as in loads and freezes, or runs slow) you may be able to tweak the preformance by adjusting the memory settings.
The best way to go about this is to load the game, and turn on the debug display by right clicking on the analog stick and selecting it.
This will display how much memory is free. Start playing your game and keep in mind how much is free.
A example would be...super smash brothers. Ingame while your playing you have say.. 7.5MB free on average.
Quit the game and go back to the romlist and go into the settings.
The default setting should be 4MB video.
For 1964 dyna should be 8mb, and paging 4mb.
For PJ64 dyna should be 16mb, and paging 4mb
Now you will want to adjust your settings dependant upon which emulator you used.
Keep in mind that in order for the menu ingame to display correctly, you need atleast 4mb free. With 7.5 mb free on our example, that would give you 3.5 mb to play with, if you want the menu to show. If you dont give a damn about the menu, then i would suggest only going as low as 2mb free, which would give you 5.5Mb to play with.
The most noticable impact you will see is by increasing the dyna. Only in very few games (like super smash brothers and banjo tooie that comes to mind) need alot of video memory for textures. You'll notice some backgrounds missing in SSB if your video setting is too low.
So, by default, say in 1964 you have 8mb dyna. You have anywhere from 3.5-5.5 MB to play with. My suggestion would be to trial and error and see what does best for you. Try increasing the dyna by 4mb first, and see if that improves your preformance. If that doesnt work, increase it by 2, and increase the paging by 2. If that doesnt improve, drop the paging to 2mb and increase the dyna by 6mb.
Some games, like perfect dark, simply need more memory than a 64mb xbox can provide with the current core. It needs about 16mb dyna and 16mb paging in order to run smooth.
In some cases you can drop the paging to 1mb without a noticable difference. This may increase stuttering, or draw the FPS to nothing when trying to load a level/scene/texture that requires large memory.
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Are you getting a BLACK SCREEN after loading a rom? Make 100% sure you are using Surreal v1.0 and NOT the gueux.net version. That version is for softmod exploits on newer xbox kernels.
Yes, .ZIP files are supported, aswell as all the known extentions for n64 rom's such as .usa and .v64
A specific rom not showing up on the list?
Please keep in mind this is not a bug or compatibility list. This is merely a help thread getting surreal *Started*. Please post to the appropriate thread if you wish to submit a bug within the emulator.
I will update this post with helpful information as i recieve it.
Hey man can help me with something? I have a modchip (DuoX Lite) and i have EvoX and i also have XBMC and i cant seem to get my N64 and SNES game Roms loaded onto my xbox. I downloaded all of the Roms off a bit torrent site and downloaded them and then i changed them to an .Xiso by using SimpleXiso and then i burnt it to a Memorex DVD-R Disc and then i put it into the xbox and it says that it is unknown(on The EvoX Dashboard) then when i went into XBMC, and i went to my files and i checked teh D Drive and it should all of the game roms in it, What do i do next? All the games are zipped files though, is thats what is wrong? I already have Surreal64 downloaded onto the xbox. I also have my xbox networked to my computer and i use FlashFXP and it works.
Im new at this and i really want to play my N64 Roms and SNES Roms on it so plaease can u help me out with this...
Thanx
P.S. Anyone can help me i just want to get it up and running as soon as possible...Thanx again
Post by: alvenzo on December 08, 2006, 08:34:00 AM
I have a problem, I have tried to run Surreal64 on my xbox but it will not run, all I see is the "evolution x" loading screen.. thing is I read earlier that you needed evox bios or some other bios, but thing is, I do not know what bios to download cuz I have no idea what chip I have... I bought it several years ago 2nd hand and the chip was allready installed... how do I solve this problem? =)
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 13, 2006, 07:33:00 PM
Thanks,
Chris
Post by: georaldc on December 13, 2006, 08:37:00 PM
QUOTE(Jibbajaba @ Dec 14 2006, 10:04 AM)
Quick question. Did a search and found no answer. How can I NOT play the games in widescreen mode? I see no options for adjusting the screen size or position.
Thanks,
Chris
Try switching your tv's aspect ratio to 4:3?
Post by: Twilight Scythe on December 14, 2006, 05:41:00 PM
QUOTE(alvenzo @ Dec 8 2006, 10:05 AM)
Hey!
I have a problem, I have tried to run Surreal64 on my xbox but it will not run, all I see is the "evolution x" loading screen.. thing is I read earlier that you needed evox bios or some other bios, but thing is, I do not know what bios to download cuz I have no idea what chip I have... I bought it several years ago 2nd hand and the chip was allready installed... how do I solve this problem? =)
I am having the same problem, but i'm not sure if its my bios.
I have an Xecuter 2 modchip. My surreal folder is in my games folder. The roms are in the surreal folder's rom folder.
Post by: metallica470 on December 14, 2006, 08:53:00 PM
Post by: Jibbajaba on December 14, 2006, 11:08:00 PM
QUOTE(georaldc @ Dec 13 2006, 07:08 PM)
Try switching your tv's aspect ratio to 4:3?
I don't use a TV. I have a 24" widescreen trinitron display, and it is not trivial to switch aspect ratios because it auto-detects them. The screen size needs to be adjusted in the software.
Chris
QUOTE(Twilight Scythe @ Dec 14 2006, 04:12 PM)
I am having the same problem, but i'm not sure if its my bios.
I have an Xecuter 2 modchip. My surreal folder is in my games folder. The roms are in the surreal folder's rom folder.
I also have an Xecuter 2 (2.6) and the emu works fine for me. What bios do you have?
Chris
Post by: Twilight Scythe on December 15, 2006, 12:55:00 PM
Post by: Just_Sam on December 15, 2006, 06:48:00 PM
I am a huge Zelda fan however when I try to put either OoT or MM on through FlashFXP instead of loading it on there it shows a little red cross and says Transfer Failed.
I just tried literally 40 different copies all approved or whatever through that Goodwindows thing and not one worked.
Am I doing something wrong? Or are others having this problem, and yes I do have enough space on my disc. I am running EvoX.
Post by: Just_Sam on December 17, 2006, 12:58:00 PM
Post by: micbic on December 17, 2006, 07:14:00 PM
Post by: freeyayo50 on January 02, 2007, 09:48:00 PM
Also, with choosing the audio...is it safer to just stick with the basic audio plugin or go with the JttL??
Thanx
Post by: captice-trice on January 04, 2007, 01:38:00 AM
QUOTE(CGMneon @ Jan 8 2004, 12:59 PM)
Thanks for the great post, Iriez. Your first entry filled in all the gaps for me.
Just wanted to say that not all patcher programs work the same way; the dexbe patched perfectly when the other programs didn't. (Oh, sure, those programs would say they worked, but they didn't.)
Everything is going great for me now. :D
yo peoples i am a bit of a noob at the eumalaters and i downloaded "neon genesis evangelion" rom and i am concernd that it may play or not
the file is a .z64
ill be back on in a few days time so can some one submit some good rom sites
thanks
captice t. trice
Post by: bigmacattack on January 05, 2007, 07:30:00 AM
QUOTE
Hey I got a slight problem. I just installed Surreal v1.0 and it's all going good, got a few games on but the main reason I got it was for Zelda.
I am a huge Zelda fan however when I try to put either OoT or MM on through FlashFXP instead of loading it on there it shows a little red cross and says Transfer Failed.
I just tried literally 40 different copies all approved or whatever through that Goodwindows thing and not one worked.
Am I doing something wrong? Or are others having this problem, and yes I do have enough space on my disc. I am running EvoX.
I am a huge Zelda fan however when I try to put either OoT or MM on through FlashFXP instead of loading it on there it shows a little red cross and says Transfer Failed.
I just tried literally 40 different copies all approved or whatever through that Goodwindows thing and not one worked.
Am I doing something wrong? Or are others having this problem, and yes I do have enough space on my disc. I am running EvoX.
No you need to rename the file, the ftp client won't recognize some of the characters
Post by: VampX on January 05, 2007, 07:47:00 AM
QUOTE(captice-trice @ Jan 4 2007, 09:09 AM)
ill be back on in a few days time so can some one submit some good rom sites
Sure man will do, here's a good read about rom sites. url
just scroll down a little bit to the part that says "where do i get the roms"
Post by: final_sephiroth on January 11, 2007, 10:05:00 AM
QUOTE(final_sephiroth @ Jan 11 2007, 04:34 PM)
Hey guys, need help getting this emulator to work, tried looking at every topic i can find and still cant get an answer,
ive transferred the files into my /e/emulators/ folder, kept same names as was before, the version is beta 4-95, it has the main folder which contains the .xbe and the rest. and seperate were the info text document and the surreal64_xxx_b4.95 msinformation file.
the problem is that when i load the emulator from my launch emulator menu on the dashboard, the screen sticks at loading
cheers
oh yeah, im have the xecuter3 modchip in my system
This post has been edited by final_sephiroth: Jan 11 2007, 06:05 PM
Post by: CaptainM on June 13, 2007, 10:04:00 PM
Post by: Friday on June 15, 2007, 05:29:00 AM
EvoX dashbord build v1.8.3285
EvoX D.6 EjectFix bios
Surreal64 v1.0
Super smash bros (U) [!] ---- Good american dump
it just freezez at 100% after loading the game.
Post by: CaptainM on June 16, 2007, 10:38:00 AM
I guess it's good to know that it isn't due to my softmod!
This post has been edited by CaptainM: Jun 16 2007, 05:40 PM
Post by: Friday on June 16, 2007, 01:45:00 PM
Post by: CaptainM on June 16, 2007, 01:58:00 PM
Wait a minute, I just realized something: If I use evox, and you use evox, and everybody else with this problem uses evox, it has to be a problem with evox! I'm going to switch to xbmc as soon as I can find it...
This post has been edited by CaptainM: Jun 16 2007, 09:00 PM
Post by: VampX on June 16, 2007, 02:48:00 PM
QUOTE(CaptainM @ Jun 16 2007, 09:58 PM)
I'm going to switch to xbmc as soon as I can find it...
and by that you mean "as soon as i learn how xbins works and i download it from there" right? right?
Post by: CaptainM on June 17, 2007, 10:39:00 AM
Post by: chorizo1 on June 17, 2007, 10:07:00 AM
QUOTE(CaptainM @ Jun 17 2007, 11:39 AM)
no, not really... Why you hatin' on the newbs? Just because I don't have over like one thousand posts, doesn't mean I don't know anything. Anybody have any suggestions on mine and friday's problem?
yep. it's in Fridays thread.
Post by: CaptainM on June 17, 2007, 11:03:00 AM
Post by: chorizo1 on June 17, 2007, 11:39:00 PM
QUOTE(CaptainM @ Jun 17 2007, 12:03 PM)
Hey thanks, but unfortunately, that didn't work.
what didn't work? no errors aren't likely.........
Post by: CaptainM on June 18, 2007, 10:41:00 AM
Post by: Art2Fly on June 27, 2007, 01:00:00 PM
Post by: VampX on June 27, 2007, 03:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Art2Fly @ Jun 27 2007, 09:36 PM)
or at least show me where to get the latest version of Surreal
That would be Xbins, check the stickied big answer thread for more info.
Post by: Art2Fly on July 05, 2007, 12:38:00 PM
Post by: xbox_earth on July 13, 2007, 10:54:00 PM
Post by: CaptainM on July 14, 2007, 08:04:00 PM
QUOTE(xbox_earth @ Jul 13 2007, 10:54 PM)
**just posting because have looked here but cant find any1 using xbmc**
Well I don't think you've looked very hard because the majority of people who know what they're doing here use xbmc, including myself. As to the "black screen", I'd tell you to just give up now. I tried for weeks, doing every remotely possible solution to get my games to work to no avail. That's my 2 cents.
Post by: njmbb8 on July 24, 2007, 09:41:00 AM
Post by: el Gallo on August 11, 2007, 10:18:00 AM
Post by: VampX on August 11, 2007, 12:50:00 PM
Post by: tommw on August 30, 2007, 04:29:00 AM
I cannot get Surreal 64 to play ROMs. Whenever I load a ROM, I'm presented with a black screen however you can cleary hear the sound, and button presses seem to work as I'm able to navigate around the game - I just can't see anything at all.
Any help would be appreciated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Cheers!
Post by: Monkey Bread on August 30, 2007, 03:16:00 PM
Post by: w1lldeang on August 31, 2007, 11:08:00 PM
Post by: competes2win on September 01, 2007, 11:51:00 AM
QUOTE(w1lldeang @ Sep 1 2007, 12:08 AM)
hey i put surreal on my xbox over and over and each time whne i click on it it just freezes on a screen that says loading application....what should i do?
Maybe make sure that what your trying to load is the actual default.xbe?
This post has been edited by competes2win: Sep 1 2007, 06:52 PM
Post by: w1lldeang on September 05, 2007, 01:10:00 PM
Post by: Arakias on September 12, 2007, 07:40:00 PM
Here's a screenshot of what I'm working with.
Again, I have roughly 4 gigs of roms in the roms folder.
Thanks!
(IMG:http://www.geocities.com/lamiamusic/surrel64ss.GIF)
Post by: pigdog on September 22, 2007, 02:55:00 PM
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
But I don't even have a D:\ drive and my save states all seem to work, and I added my ROMs directory manually.
I ask because I want to export my Banjo-Tooie save to my PC because I need to finish a part which requires much lower controller sensitivity than is currently set in the program, and there is no option to change it on xbox.
Post by: BonusJz on September 23, 2007, 11:39:00 AM
Post by: Bart_NL on December 18, 2007, 03:54:00 AM
I used to play my N64-roms with Surreal64 all the time. But since I updated XBMC to one of the more recent T3Ch-versions it doesn't run anymore.
All I get is a black screen. Is this a common problem? All I replaced was the E:\APPS\XBMC-folder.
Post by: Party Animal on December 21, 2007, 04:51:00 AM
Post by: competes2win on December 21, 2007, 04:17:00 PM
QUOTE(zrs_guy @ Dec 21 2007, 06:38 PM)
Hey everyone, I wanted to download the latest Surreal xxx and trying every site listed in google and subsites from those sites I have had no results. I simply cannot find where to download Surreal xxx b5 except at xbox-scene and there you have to have a membership to download it. I was able to download the source code but the source code was too buggy to be compiled. Will anyone please send me a link or let me know how I can get surreal xxx 64 b5? Thanks a lot.
No what I meant, was to check out the thread that is stickied and at the top of the emulators section... the one that basically says to read before you post any stupid questions... it's not a very complicated process but might be new to you, it was for me when i first started getting stuff from that usual place.
Post by: competes2win on December 22, 2007, 12:15:00 AM
QUOTE(zrs_guy @ Dec 21 2007, 07:11 PM)
I checked that and now I see why you told me to read that. Thanks. However, to download surreal xxx in the sticky post it says to first connect to xbins in an irc client. Well I followed directions perfectly and xbins channel must not exist anymore. Also, I have gone to the xbins channel before, using the irc client mirc. So I don't think it exists anymore. I tried 2 times, with 2 different ways of connecting. Anyhow, my question remains - where can I download surreal xxx b5?
xbins does still exist... was on there just today.
make sure you're connected to the correct server.
Post by: zrs_guy on December 27, 2007, 02:02:00 PM
I cannot believe this bullshit! I cant even get a very developed emulator anywhere.
Post by: zrs_guy on December 27, 2007, 11:43:00 PM
Post by: jzh797s on January 17, 2008, 09:07:00 AM
I have a soft modded xbox.
Surreal64 is in E:\apps\emu\surreal64
ROMS are in E:\apps\emu\surreal64\roms
My surreal.ini has had the media directory erased and it has been erased at the file level (as per another post I read to get the roms up). I have my rom folder in the surreal.ini set to E:\apps\emu\surreal64\roms. All of my ROMS have .z64 extensions.
If anyone could shed some light on what Im doing wrong I would be greatly appreciative.
Post by: Neuroshii on January 17, 2008, 07:27:00 PM
Post by: ressurectionx on January 17, 2008, 08:27:00 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has ever gotten Surreal 64 to work with a stock hard drive using drive "E:\". There's about 4 people experiencing what seems to be the exact same problem and I recall after having modded my brother's XBox and leaving the drive stock that we had the exact same problem. None of the roms would show up. I couldn't figure it out and just gave up on it.
That was about 8 months ago. I forgot about that until now.
QUOTE(zrs_guy @ Dec 27 2007, 10:38 PM)
I was able to ftp to xbins today. I looked through the xbox folder and sub directories but did not find any emulators for the xbox, only 2 emulators for the pc. So does anyone know where I could get Surreal xxx b5?
I cannot believe this bullshit! I cant even get a very developed emulator anywhere.
It's definately there man. They're all there. I'm not sitting in front of my home computer right now, so what I type here might be a little off, but you should be able to figure it out.
XBox\console\apps\emulators\surreal
Actually, I'm sure that's not correct, but the point is you're going to have to go in the applications folder to find the emulators. Personally, I wouldn't have set it up that way and I would have made emulators seperate from applications like XBMC does.
Post by: HORiZUN on January 21, 2008, 04:25:00 PM
Not the case, here.
I'm running a softmodded NTSC 320GB HD v1.6 XBOX with XBMC as my default dash.
I FTP with FlashFXP.
I have the latest Surreal. (Beta 5)
I have a GoodRomset.
I have edited the Surreal.ini in both the emulator folder as well as the savegame folder.
I see my roms.
I can play my roms. (some, anyway)
My problem: I want to plat South Park: Chef's Luv Shack.
Checked the compatibility thread - game has not been tested. :\
Made it load with basic audio. No go.
Unzipped it. No go.
Replaced the rom with another verified working dump. Nope.
Tried all three emulators in Surreal: made it to the player select screen in PJ64, then it froze.
I have looked high and low for a solution to make this game work. Anyone have any ideas?
Any help is much appreciated.
Post by: xyteam on January 22, 2008, 10:41:00 AM
some people have said that certain games load on that emu that wont on later versions of surreall.
Post by: Casualtie on January 26, 2008, 04:33:00 PM
1) When I try to load it gives me like 3 emulators the play, and on 2 it gives a video codec, which do I use?
2) How do I save my game progress?
Thanks
Post by: Martijn1 on January 27, 2008, 09:45:00 AM
the 1964 emulator seems to be using the Project64 setting for paging memory!
Try it, set 1964 paging to 0 for a game, and then run it, logically it shouldn't be able to even start, but it does, now exit the game and set Project64 paging to 0, the game will now hang at startup... This method is to prove a point ofcourse, you can also experience it using other settings.
Same problem with B4.95 and B5...
I'm on a softmodded 1.6 XBOX.
So for everyone having problems with Mario Kart 64 (wich is the game that made me find this problem): set Project64 paging memory to 8 (since 4 makes it lag at the start of a race), and 1964 dynarec to 8, then run with 1964 and Rice 5.60, the game will now run perfectly.
The same happens for other games as well, so it's not a game-specific bug (if that were even possible for something like this).
Unfortunately, I'm not that good of a programmer, so I won't be able to fix this myself using the sourcecode, but maybe someone else has the skills to fix it even after development on Surreal64 xxx has stopped.
It would be great if someone could confirm this, and maybe even fix it
.
Post by: xyteam on February 02, 2008, 11:57:00 AM
I am a real nubcake with the Emulators so here i go..
1) When I try to load it gives me like 3 emulators the play, and on 2 it gives a video codec, which do I use?
2) How do I save my game progress?
Thanks
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1)different games run better on certain emus,so just play around until you find the best one,the video codec is just to improve emulation.
2)when your playing ingame click down on the right analouge stick and go to game savestate and you can save your progress from there.
Post by: Vejita on February 20, 2008, 05:02:00 PM
Here is the latest RDB:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/c8lg45
I can't test it as my Xbox HDD has failed so I'm in the process of restoring a backup.
Post by: yataf on February 23, 2008, 08:15:00 PM
Post by: Justintoxicated on February 24, 2008, 06:32:00 PM
I downloaded Surreal 1.0 from xbits.
I have a softmodded xbox.
Surreal Loads find but no games are listed.
I have placed the roms in a "/roms/' subfolder in the base of the surreal dir.
My .ini has been edited to
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
There is a number of other settings in the ini folder such as
"[001A3BD0-AFB3DE1A-C:46]
Game Name=TARZAN
Alternate Title=Disney's Tarzan (F) [!]
Comments=Playable - No Sound
Preferred Emulator=0
[0198A651-FC219D84-C:50]
Game Name=FIFA 99
Alternate Title=FIFA 99 (E) [!]
Comments=Playable - Slightly slow"
etc.... is this a problem?
My Roms are in .zip files and in .7z files, is this a problem?
It does not seem to find a single ROM.
I have replaced the ini file in the somethingsomething64 folder in the TDATA and now I have compleatly removed both the 64 directory in TDATA and UDATA...Still does not work, I even deleted everything and started over...Still nothing!
This post has been edited by Justintoxicated: Feb 25 2008, 02:43 AM
Post by: mastodon999 on February 24, 2008, 08:35:00 PM
Post by: Justintoxicated on February 24, 2008, 09:36:00 PM
QUOTE(mastodon999 @ Feb 24 2008, 07:35 PM)
O.K... Here is my problem, I have the surreal emu on my xbox, when I try to ftp the roms to my roms folder I get transfer failed. I can't get them to go to my xbox? Please help!
What FTP program are you using?
^^ I ended up answering my own question, you can't have the files zipped I guess, so I need to manualy extract like 5k files
Post by: mastodon999 on February 24, 2008, 10:36:00 PM
Post by: VampX on February 24, 2008, 10:54:00 PM
check the stickied thread for more information about that and faqs on how to correctly mass unzip/rename/rezip your roms.
Post by: peter_gibbons69 on February 25, 2008, 12:56:00 AM
I cannot get the ROMs to load at all. The menu comes up and locates all of the files and provides me with what looks to be full functionality including loading the file to 100%. However, after the file gets to 100% loaded it goes to a black screen and it sounds like my XBOX is idle and I have to reboot my console. The ROMs all work just fine on my PC under a PC emulator but not on my Xbox console. I have been searching through forums and trying different things all day and I for the life of me cannot figure this out.
As far as I can tell there are no issues with files, etc. unless my ROMs are bad. However, they work on my PC just fine.
PLEASE HELP!
This post has been edited by peter_gibbons69: Feb 25 2008, 08:59 AM
Post by: hellknight on February 25, 2008, 12:35:00 PM
Post by: Justintoxicated on February 25, 2008, 02:40:00 PM
QUOTE(VampX @ Feb 24 2008, 09:54 PM)
guys guys guys, your roms wont transfer because the filenames contain stuff that the xbox can't read,
check the stickied thread for more information about that and faqs on how to correctly mass unzip/rename/rezip your roms.
Hmm I'm not sure that is the case for me. So supposedly we can run zipped file with surreal? I had a zipped file name "Starfox64.zip" Surreal does not find it. However if I unzip, then it works fine.
Just an example I have also tried with ALOT of others...
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Post by: ploggy on March 09, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
The homepage just says coming soon but I think it's been like that for ages. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Post by: ressurectionx on March 21, 2008, 12:02:00 AM
Post by: jalaneme on March 25, 2008, 07:20:00 PM
i also selected the patched default.xbe and i got the same results, when i selected the project 64 and UltraHLE.xbe it hangs on the loading screen and i have to reset the xbox.
Post by: jalaneme on March 25, 2008, 11:08:00 PM
Post by: neil222 on March 26, 2008, 03:49:00 PM
Try using DEXBE for this. There are also a number of other programs that can do this.
(make sure to back up your xbe's BEFORE patching them too...)
Hope this helps.
Post by: jalaneme on March 28, 2008, 04:51:00 PM
Post by: Vectorman0 on March 28, 2008, 05:07:00 PM
I installed the program on my xbox, then I renamed all roms to proper sizes and zipped them. At this point, whenever I select any ROMS, it doesn't highlight the good emulator setting. 3 years ago the emulator I had did this, but now it does not. What am I missing?
Thanks.
Post by: pyro169 on April 01, 2008, 01:36:00 PM
Post by: HeavyMetal84 on April 09, 2008, 02:45:00 AM
Post by: neil222 on April 09, 2008, 04:48:00 AM
Post by: neil222 on April 09, 2008, 04:45:00 PM
In Surreal (v1.0/FDB) you click on the bottom right hand symbol onscreen.
Hopefully this may help....
Post by: competes2win on April 10, 2008, 08:15:00 AM
QUOTE(HeavyMetal84 @ Apr 10 2008, 07:14 AM)
Refreshing it updated the rom list and it's now showing all the correct games, but none of the games still work. When I try to play a game it freezes up on the loading rom screen.
I would delete the stuff in here /E/TDATA/a64fea57 and try again... maybe the respective udata folder as well, as I don't know the difference. Most likely if you start over with a new .ini file things would work.
Post by: ressurectionx on April 10, 2008, 08:22:00 AM
And kudos to competes2win for telling you the exact folder. I wouldn't have known off the top of my head what it was.
That will work for you. If you got the emu from the usual spot it works 100 percent of the time every time. Sometimes you gotta do a reinstall of everything because something was botched for whatever reason, but I have two XBox 1.6's and I lucked into an XBox 1.0 on accident and there is no difference between compatibility with the two. Any compatibility hurdles you've ever read about scouring for info on the scene is outdated and the masters, most of which seem long gone now, have already fixed all of that.
Good luck, and if you have more problems just post..
~Rx
P.S. for whoever....
Maybe it would be a good idea to make a post and get it stickied that has all of the save folders in TDATA and UDATA for future reference for noobs and experts alike? Just a thought...
Post by: HeavyMetal84 on April 11, 2008, 12:57:00 AM
QUOTE(competes2win @ Apr 10 2008, 09:51 AM)
I would delete the stuff in here /E/TDATA/a64fea57 and try again... maybe the respective udata folder as well, as I don't know the difference. Most likely if you start over with a new .ini file things would work.
It worked! Thanks a million dude! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Post by: Mr__x_ on September 18, 2008, 12:07:00 PM
I've a little problem:I want to add a rom path for n64 roms...in order to load roms boths by hd and dvd...any suggestions? PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!
Post by: Kumoriken on September 22, 2008, 04:46:00 PM
So I've softmodded my Xbox successfully and all that, and I downloaded a Surreal64 XXX beta, and have been enjoying a few ROMs for about a day now.
But there's one problem. Some of the ROMs that were confirmed to work on Surreal64 V1.0 aren't working.
So I was wondering if it might have to do with the fact that I'm using XXX and not Ver. 1.0. Does anyone know?
Even if it isn't, which emulator would you guys recommend for N64 emulation? Surreal64 1.0, Surreal64 XXX, or something entirely different?
Thanks for any and all help.
Post by: xyteam on September 22, 2008, 04:50:00 PM
what games are you trying to emulate?
Post by: Kumoriken on September 22, 2008, 04:53:00 PM
QUOTE(xyteam @ Sep 22 2008, 06:26 PM)
i would suggest using the newest version surreall64xxxb5.you just have to play around with the different settings until you get it working.
what games are you trying to emulate?
Well on the compatibility list it said Donkey Kong 64 and Conker's Bad Fur Day would work, but they didn't. Just froze at a black screen.
Also, my friend was able to play Pokemon Snap on his Xbox, but the compatibility list says Surreal64 can't handle it.
Post by: xyteam on September 22, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
Post by: Kumoriken on September 22, 2008, 04:59:00 PM
QUOTE(xyteam @ Sep 22 2008, 06:32 PM)
ive played conkers bad fur day using the 1964 emu in surreall64xxxb5.it could be your roms.i remember playing donkey kong64 and it was glitchy as hell.
Ah, alright. I'll try another ROM. Thanks. :3
Oh, also...
Do you know if there are any more recent compatibility lists for Surreal? The only one I can find is the one posted in 2004...
...Oh, and Majora's Mask just fatally glitched on me. There's another game that won't work. Hah.
Post by: Kumoriken on September 23, 2008, 03:00:00 PM
Majora's Mask is supposed to work perfectly, and yet it won't work at all.
Are there any sort of settings I should be tinkering with in the emulator to get stuff to work better? And what video plug-in version do you guys recommend?
Post by: competes2win on September 23, 2008, 06:53:00 PM
QUOTE(Kumoriken @ Sep 22 2008, 07:29 PM)
Well on the compatibility list it said Donkey Kong 64 and Conker's Bad Fur Day would work, but they didn't. Just froze at a black screen.
Also, my friend was able to play Pokemon Snap on his Xbox, but the compatibility list says Surreal64 can't handle it.
Freezing at a black screen before the rom loads is somewhat of a problem in surreal, at least for some people and in some situations... It happened to me, but I looked up the surreal emulator saves on google, what folders it is I mean and deleted them completely, both folders... and that seemed to fix things. Cant say that this is your problem for sure though, but it would be worth a shot I'd presume.
Post by: xyteam on September 24, 2008, 03:33:00 PM
Post by: Kumoriken on September 24, 2008, 03:41:00 PM
QUOTE(xyteam @ Sep 24 2008, 05:09 PM)
try deleting your surreall gamesave from your dashboard.
Umm.. I'm sorry... Surreal Gamesave?
Aren't Gamesaves for the ROMs?
Are you talking about the saves for the ROMs I have?
Post by: Kumoriken on September 24, 2008, 05:05:00 PM
I deleted Surreal64 XXX, and just downloaded the first version of Surreal64, the one released in 2004.
Surprisingly, this one works a hell of a lot better than the newer one. Majora's Mask is now running flawlessly.
It might not LOOK as good graphically, but at least it's running. :3
Post by: ripice on October 01, 2008, 04:50:00 PM
Post by: dickalan on January 22, 2009, 02:21:00 AM
So when making an iso you create a 'new folder' > 'Roms' > '007.zip' So basically 'actual roms' are inside the 'Roms' folder and roms folder is inside 'new folder' Correct?
And when making the iso you want to make it of 'Roms' the folder. Not the 'actual roms' nor the 'new folder' Correct?
If so i don't know what I'm doing wrong?
So now i'm trying all kinds of stuff:
I've uninstalled surreal, deleted the 'ms' game save, deleted the tdata\af64..\surreal10.ini
and now i'm back to where i used to be, where roms show up in surreal by hitting the 'Y' button, where it's being accessed through the e/surreal/roms folder.
But that's not what I want!!! I'm trying to save space on my hard drive so i can have a ton of roms for other emulators.
How do I play the roms off a DVD?
Please help!! written tutorial, picture tutorial, video tutorial, whatever will help!!!
thanks in advance!
Post by: SchNiVas on January 24, 2009, 12:01:00 PM
Rom Path=E:\apps\Emulators\n64\Roms
Media Path=D:\Media
Exactly how it's written, exactly where it is.
I am only soft modded, i don't have a modchip.
If you need any more info PLEASE REPLY if you think u can help me!
Post by: xyteam on January 24, 2009, 12:59:00 PM
i have surreall on disc with a full romset and i burned it to the hdd and it works fine on any dashboard.
my paths in the surreal.ini are
Rom Path=D:\Roms\
Media Path=D:\Media\
make sure you are using the newest version of surreall versionb5.
@dickalan yes the roms folder should just be called roms
Post by: CityOfAngels on March 07, 2009, 02:37:00 AM
So basically I got the urge to play WCW/NWO Revenge, WWF No Mercy, and Virtual Pro Wrestling (the three BEST wrestling games ever IMHO), so I decided to give Surreal64 another try. As before (years ago when I first got my modded XBOX from modchipman), surreal loads up and no roms are on the list.
I decide to try burning the actual emulator onto a DVD, with the roms in a rom file. So I have the surreal folder, and inside the surreal folder is my "ROMS" folder. I edit the .ini to direct it to D:\Roms\. Using CXBoxtool, I create an .iso and burn it with Alcohol.
Surreal64 loaded, but didn't show any roms. I realized I titled the roms folder "ROMS" instead of "Roms", so I fixed that.
Now, Surreal64 loads, but I get this crazy black screen with the white arrows located in the top of the screen, rather than the top and bottom of the screen. Also, the word, "QUIT" is visible in white text (same text as the usual button but without the button). When I move the D-Pad around, It says:
"Rom Size: 128Mbit
Comments:"
in the lower left corner of the screen. Also when I move the d-pad around, I get different values for "Rom Size" like 96Mbit, 128Mbit, and 320Mbit.
If I press Y, X, or B, nothing happens. If I press A, a big, white, rounded rectangle pops up, and underneath it says:
"Add to Favorites
Configure Rom Specific Controllers
Configure Rom Specific Settings".
Please help! I've been working on this for hours, consulting this thread and Google, and I've wasted about 11 blank DVD's with each attempt to get this to work. I am totally stumped, but I REALLY want to play those games. I know this is wierd but I miss them!
Thanks, and sorry for hassling you with this.
Post by: CityOfAngels on March 07, 2009, 07:06:00 AM
I'm using evoX on Xecuter 2 chip.
First version I tried was: Surreal64_FDB_v2
Second version I tried was: Surreal64_xxx_b4
Surreal64_FDB_v2 gave me the results I stated above.
Surreal64_xxx_b4 simply refuses to load and freezes my xbox, even after patching to retail with dexbe.
I tried getting into xbins thru mIRC and Auto XBINS 2008, but with mIRC it logged me in and almost instantaneously banned me. Auto XBINS didn't even get me in; it just stated I was banned. I don't get why.
I'm determined, but starting to feel like this is one dream I won't be realizing.
Post by: CityOfAngels on March 08, 2009, 04:05:00 AM
Now if only I could get No Mercy to work. But that's not for this thread.
And oh yeah, I meant VPW2, not VPW. VPW is just that WCW game with whats his face william regal.
Post by: Cospefogo on March 08, 2009, 01:12:00 PM
Is there a way to play Dr. Mario 64 on Surreal?
The game itself works fine, however the FALLING PILLS can't get to be SEEN!
They are invisible... So, there is no way to play the damn' thing.
Anyone was able to find a correct configuration for Dr. Mario 64?
Best,
Cospefogo.
Post by: Jakib2 on April 07, 2009, 05:25:00 PM
Post by: neil222 on April 07, 2009, 07:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Jakib2 @ Apr 8 2009, 01:01 AM)
I had Surreal64 working almost flawlessly for about a month. I then decided to override my Zelda OOT rom with the US version from the EUR version because I was having some texture errors and the save menu was all jambled up. Since then, not a single rom has been able to load. I've tried almost every rom I have running it with PJ64 and 1964 and they all freeze at the loading rom phase with no red bar movement. I tried deleting a bunch of rom including the new Zelda and that did not solve it. I rerouted the Surreal64.ini file to E:\Emulators/Surreal64/Roms and that did not work. Can anyone give me a suggestion? Thanks!
Maybe try deleting Surreal and reinstalling it. Also delete your surreal save file.
QUOTE(junior600 @ Apr 7 2009, 06:30 PM)
hallo everyone,i want to play majora mask in surreal 64 but when i play,the game runs slow.why?
Check a few posts above your one for your answer...
Post by: neil222 on April 07, 2009, 10:18:00 PM
QUOTE(Jakib2 @ Apr 8 2009, 04:48 AM)
Where is the surreal save file located. The one .ini in the TDATA?
Can't remember where (at work at the moment)
You can use MS DASH to delete it though.
Post by: Jakib2 on April 07, 2009, 11:36:00 PM
Post by: Jakib2 on April 08, 2009, 04:33:00 PM
Post by: Jakib2 on April 12, 2009, 09:50:00 PM
Post by: neil222 on April 13, 2009, 12:02:00 AM
Post by: palentir on April 13, 2009, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: palentir on April 13, 2009, 05:15:00 PM
anyway for anyone who wants a quick answer, use a tool called Tool64, find the rom and goto properties, and use crc1 value. if you need a more specific explination see Thraxen message.
cheers
Post by: neil222 on April 14, 2009, 10:54:00 PM
QUOTE(Jakib2 @ Apr 13 2009, 09:16 PM)
No. where are they located? Is there anyway to keep some of them so i don't loose progress on my savestates?
Not sure of the exact file folder name in your E drive, but I use either "MS DASH" to delete it,
or 'Xbox Save Manager" to connect via FTP to see/delete/backup your game saves.
Post by: Bomb Bloke on April 15, 2009, 12:46:00 AM
Post by: Millertime2325 on April 17, 2009, 11:49:00 PM
I downloaded the XXX B5 version with a ton of (known to be compatable) roms. Tried burning it to a disc, but none of the games would boot.
I looked through this thread for about 10 pages, and I've done everything I can think of.
I downloaded Surreal 1.0 and burned that, no luck. I previously had Surreal XXX B5 installed on my hard drive, so as suggested I deleted the UDATA and TDATA folders for that. no luck. Deleted the Surreal emulator and other files from the hard drive on the box, no dice.
The settings are
Rom Path=A:\Roms\
Media Path=A:\Media\
It's not making sense to me at all - I can't for the life of me get a rom to boot when it's burnt to a disc. Works fine when installed on the hard drive however.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Post by: Millertime2325 on April 18, 2009, 08:49:00 AM
Anyway, I just wanted to add that the games boot up and get past the loading phase, but get stuck with a black screen after and don't do anything. Forgot to mention that in the post above.
Post by: daddywillwill on September 12, 2009, 02:14:00 AM
sorry to re-open yet again. but should all n64 roms atleast load to the start menu?
cause i've done everything that is said in the first post but the roms do the 100% load then black screen.
any thoughts on how to fix this?
Thanks
Post by: ressurectionx on September 12, 2009, 02:57:00 AM
Same thing happened to me back in the day.
Post by: daddywillwill on September 12, 2009, 03:20:00 AM
its kinda weird. i can play some roms but others just dont go past the load screen and go black
like
NBA Jam 99 (U) [!]
NBA Jam 2000 (U) [!]
they don't even run they load then black screen as some others?
Post by: ressurectionx on September 12, 2009, 03:33:00 AM
Post by: daddywillwill on September 12, 2009, 03:36:00 AM
ok thats cool, was just wondering if it was my workings or the software.
Thanks
Post by: ressurectionx on September 12, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
If those three don't start, you've got a problem. I'd remove the emu and whatever the save folder is and reinstall it if you have a problem with any of them.
Post by: dballs442 on November 11, 2009, 12:19:00 PM
i am asking if its possible to put several music files in and it play a random one at start up?
Post by: dickalan on May 18, 2010, 01:26:00 PM
http://goldeneyevault.com/
http://www.shootersf...message_boards/
http://www.goldeneyeforever.com/
What they are doing is pretty awesome. Anyway as of now (that I can find) these adapted roms only work on the mupen pc emulator. I was wondering if anyone knew how to port these modded roms (that contain "patches" which change the game in some way) to play on surreal for the xbox. Anyone thought about this or am I the only one?? Thanks for any ideas or help.
I thought maybe this could lead to something:
http://goldeneyevault.com/faq.php#1
since I'm sort of a "noob" I'm not exactly the guy to go around and start programing stuff...
Post by: SSTG on June 18, 2012, 06:09:00 AM
been recently trying to transfer a save of goldeneye with cheats on to the emulator with no luck I've turned the file to eep so it left me wondering if the right directory was set so I set it to E drive since for some reason it was set to D
I reset back to basic defaults before setting the directory
though now it freezes at the rom selection if I try to go to the menu or try to launch a rom
tried completely removing the whole folder from the xbox and retransfering it with no change
is there a file outside i need to find to get surreal working again?
an older version I put on works just as well but I have the same problem with it trying to read the save file
Unfortunately I did a dumb move and removed a file from outside the surreal64 CE folder and the emulator just restarts Xunleash now
any help would be appreciated