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Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: cainedna on October 15, 2003, 01:01:00 PM

Not to be a dick, but there's a topic posted at the top of the forum here explaining how not possible it would be. The Xbox has an edge over the GC technically, not leaps and bounds.

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: djoye on October 15, 2003, 01:08:00 PM

Here's what I've gathered.  I haven't read anything anywhere about this but someone posted something related to this topic on another forum I visit and I downloaded it.  Included was an NFO file and an executable file.  I read the info and what it was is a program that seems to run the Animal Crossing GameCube ISO from your computer via PSO (Phantasy Star Online?) and the GC network adapter.  I guess it runs the ISO from your computer as if it were on a disc, it's like a launcher of some type.

Here's the NFO file for the program:
http://mywebpages.co...ce/EUR-ACL1.NFO

Someone's working on a GameCube emulator but don't get your panties in a wad about it because N64 emulation still sucks, PS2 emulation is nothing and XBOX emulation doesn't have much going for it either.

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: Jordanus on October 15, 2003, 02:36:00 PM

wat i dont get, is why cant xbox play the gcn and ps2 games? xbox has best graphics and it can play there games fine.

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: The Pen is mightier on October 15, 2003, 02:54:00 PM

Because it's hard to emulate hardware with software.

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: Ces2k3 on October 15, 2003, 03:53:00 PM

OK  KIDDIES  the reason why it cant  be done is rather simple, to emulate u need at least 2 times the power of the original, now i know xbox is a pwerful system but come on guy it no where near 2 times as poerful than the ps2 let alone a gc so just be happy with what ya got and rember one thing emulation on the xbox is a privlegde not a way of life and somthing u demand

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: Jordanus on October 15, 2003, 05:37:00 PM

yay

thanks dawgs


but wouldnt the xbox haev double the power of a dreamcast, or even a saturn?

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: Pherf on October 15, 2003, 05:47:00 PM

Actually Xbox was designed from paper to be at least twice as powerful as the ps2.  However the rule of thumb for emulation is 10X.  The system needs to be 10x more power than the system being emulated.  Which means, you'll need a 3ghz processer to emu ps2 and 4ghz to emulate ngc (approximately).  Hope this clears up the confusion, and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD please stop posting topics like "Can the XBOX emulate PS2 or GAMECUBE"    pleeeeease!!!!!!!!!!!   There is one of these topics posted nearly every day and its getting really old really fast.

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: skabio on October 15, 2003, 06:30:00 PM

^nice explanation^

Has anyone tried this iso streaming method?  I'm curious if it works.  Not that I have a broadband adapter, PSO, or even GC iso's but I'd like to know if its for real.  It does sound feasable.

(2 lazy 2 spell)

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: shank69xo on October 15, 2003, 06:37:00 PM

QUOTE (skabio @ Oct 16 2003, 03:30 AM)

^nice explanation^ Has anyone tried this iso streaming method?  I'm curious if it works.  Not that I have a broadband adapter, PSO, or even GC iso's but I'd like to know if its for real.  It does sound feasable. (2 lazy 2 spell)

Still looking for all the Porgrams for the ISO method. I'll be trying this very soon.

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: skabio on October 15, 2003, 06:41:00 PM

The program can be found here:

http://www.consolepa...s=&threadid=574

you might have to sign up.  As far as the iso's I've seen a few as bit torrent links on supernova.org.   Let me know if it works out for yea.

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: luther349 on October 16, 2003, 02:01:00 AM

acully even with the 2x ruleof emulation the xbox could emulate the ps2 fine with 2x more power. the gc would run at abought 90% speed. now the real problem lays is that thers no emulators out there for the pc or any other system that are even avable working or that fast.

corn is a god example of them braking the 10x rule to a mutch lower level thats the fasest n64 emulator out there to bad it only runs 1 game. wile they still work on corn its very very slow and probly will be years befor it runs other game just as fast as mario.

but like that guy posted they would relly need to knoe the ps2 hardware and softwhere to make a relly fast api system to take it down to 2x. and by the time that was done we wouldent even care abought the xbox anymore we will all probly have the xbox2 and ps3 systems and be busy installing modchips into those then complaning why cant the xbox2 emulate a ps3. and there would probly be a ps2 emu for the xbox2. lol.      

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: c-2 on October 16, 2003, 07:14:00 AM

go here  http://www.cubehacker.com/  for everything u need to know about hacking the gamecube ..  the games that work so far with the AC loader are all basically just N64 ports, yes it works .. oh and a GB emu was just released.

Dolphin is the GC emulator which does run commercial games mainly Zelda in all the screenshots, all b it far from being %100 its still a good start.  

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: Ces2k3 on October 16, 2003, 08:43:00 AM

QUOTE

yay thanks dawgs but wouldnt the xbox haev double the power of a dreamcast, or even a saturn?

WEL IT DONT HAVE 2 TIME THE DREAMCAST and also there really isnt  a open source dreamcast emu out and i dont think there a open source out for the saturn emu

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: Mog on October 16, 2003, 10:09:00 AM

QUOTE (Ces2k3 @ Oct 15 2003, 07:53 PM)

emulation on the xbox is a privlegde not a way of life and somthing u demand

Couldn't have said that better myself. I think we seem to take for granted what we have already. Let's enjoy what we have!

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: Iriez on October 16, 2003, 02:06:00 PM

I think it was well described without all the harsh words.

Dont blow a fuse Sparky.

Another way to look at it is whether the Console being emulated is well documented. Infact, thats they key to it all.

Why is SNES emulated so well? I can tell you it has nothing to do with CPU power. The SNES was simply very well documented, therefore the authors of Snes9x, ZSNES, and NESTER had alot of detailed information in regards to how it works.

The Dreamcast was not well documented, and the only known emulator (Icarus) has been private for years. You'll need a 2 ghz pc just to get 15FPS on it.

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: EBear on October 16, 2003, 03:59:00 PM

QUOTE (Jordanus @ Oct 16 2003, 02:37 AM)

yay thanks dawgs but wouldnt the xbox haev double the power of a dreamcast, or even a saturn?

Dreamcast is 128 bit....
Xbox is 128 bit....

and I dont think the Saturn is even emulated well on computers yet.

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: Benji99 on October 18, 2003, 02:19:00 PM

QUOTE

Why is SNES emulated so well? I can tell you it has nothing to do with CPU power. The SNES was simply very well documented, therefore the authors of Snes9x, ZSNES, and NESTER had alot of detailed information in regards to how it works.

I think another, probably more important reason why SNES is so well emulated is that SNES9X and ZSNES have been in development for 5-7 years...
And they both wisely decided to make their emulators open source.

I think those 2 emulators with MAME should be used as a model on how to perfect emulation of a platform.
Without making the emu open source, the author(s) will eventually grow bored of it, as was shown countless times in the past. Future authors then have to re-invent the wheel to get back to where that closed source emulator used to be.

God bless Gary, Demo, zsknight, Jeremy, and all for their foresight...

Benji99

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: gainpresence on October 18, 2003, 02:27:00 PM

QUOTE (EBear @ Oct 16 2003, 06:59 PM)

Dreamcast is 128 bit.... Xbox is 128 bit.... and I dont think the Saturn is even emulated well on computers yet.

The Xbox is 32 bit, and I'm pretty sure the Dreamcast isn't really 128 bit.

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: Benji99 on October 18, 2003, 02:32:00 PM

the "bits" have been irrelevant since the 16bit days.
The bits can represent so many different things, and don't necessarily make the system faster compared to a lower "bit" rated system.

So please stop using the bits to compare systems...

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: Mage on October 18, 2003, 02:54:00 PM

Dreamcast 128-bit? No.  Serious the SH4 isn't a powerful processor.  It has 32-bit GPRs, with 128-bit registers in the FPU for 32-bit and 64-bit values.

Most of the things that people will discuss in this topic have already been said before, so I don't really feel like saying it again.

The xbox is not poweful enough to play commerical games of modern consoles.

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: mr jones on October 18, 2003, 03:06:00 PM

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Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: tom_g05 on October 18, 2003, 06:35:00 PM

Title: Has The Gc Been Crack?
Post by: Dahak on October 28, 2003, 01:00:00 PM

QUOTE (jcmills @ Oct 28 2003, 09:50 PM)

Does anyone think it would be possible to use the Xbox to load the games on the GC?

Possible I guess. I expect that a small xbox app would be needed to invoke the PSO/BBA exploit  though. Certainly much better chance of happening than just about anything else in this thread though.