Post by: dmb062082 on August 16, 2003, 11:02:00 PM
Possibly n64 or mame gets as good as it gets with working VM. I do think this is further of than we think but it is infact there. Maybe sources get released to some up and comming emulators that we are all killing for possibly a leaked girgi *saturn* (yeah i said it, and dont care because the words "comerical" and "emulation" DONT belong in the same sentance). Or maybe the 3d0 guys get really cracking and put up hella work on freedo and port it to the xbox. I doubt trip hawkins would really give a rats ass about 3do now.... now that i think about this whole idea dont be supprised if freedo becomes open source as trip hawkings has no say so now. Unless freedo team really wants to hoard afterall like i mentioned a while back.
If none of that happens I could see cxbx and xeon merging and possibly getting a few xbox games to play at around 10 or 15 fps by january id imagine. That would be a very cool break through. Every once in a while i think about shit like this and these forums are a great place to vent so add in to the discission and make it a fun one. What else could turn out to be big.... Im sure everyone would be pleased of a mxm and xport team up..... I know xport was thinking about making a front end when all his porting is said and done or at a long stand still. Boy it sure would rock if xports emus were easily impemented into MXM. It would probably cut xports front end work load down a ass load and keep everyone pleased at the same time. I also have not 1 doubt in my mind that jermey wouldnt mind helping out.
Maybe now that icarus is getting back in action he might smarten up and release his source to a world of hugry coders and out of the depths of 3 hard drives. I could easily see icarus running a handfull of games at a good speed on the xbox.... only if it was being worked on period, let alone by a legion of coders. With all that said I could see a xbox port a month later. I mean how cool would it be to even play jjust one dreamcast game such as sonic 1 on your xbox. I swear I would be like a little fucking kid man. Once again just food for thought.
Possibly we could get a version of linux running on the xbox at a better speed as well with the help of newfound milestones. It would rock even more with better compatability and more free memory. All I know is in the comming months something big is gonna hit like it does every so often and its fun guessing what it is. As of late im in the dark on everything but I almost like it better. Anyway a simple question turned out to be a few hundred words. Who cares though..... the question is what do you think, and or would like to see come to/change about the xbox. (whata mouthfull) This could be fun.
Post by: GaijinPunch on August 17, 2003, 12:52:00 AM
Post by: the_casanova on August 17, 2003, 01:08:00 AM
i men xbox media player is 100% good they relly dont need
to fix any thing there...
and for emu every body whants a new n64 .. well the one that is out works good for the fun games like bond zelda mario mario kart banjo
there is not relly any other fun games
and i have beated all those games on xbox now so i relly see no need for another....
and psx got a very good there...
let me just ask you guys somthing how mutch do you relly play n64 now and psx and dont lie i know you dont play it a shit so why do you relly need another .
i know that to just it just the cool thing to gett another.. for me its the same..the only emulated games on xbox i relly played is mario 64. bond .mario kart 64 played it over 100hours but stop for some weeks ago zelda played to the water tempel than stopt...and beat hole ff9..
thats it...
i pretty mutch think the xbox scene is 100% done¨
dont hate on my i am swedish and suck at english
Post by: GaijinPunch on August 17, 2003, 07:32:00 PM
I've yet to try a PSX emu... I've got a PS2, and play my few PSX games on it.
Also - your English is okay.... better than some native speakers that post here.
Post by: Jonesy_47 on August 18, 2003, 12:10:00 AM
Post by: lantus on August 18, 2003, 12:53:00 AM
some of the newer consoles (jaguar, saturn, dreamcast etc), wont be feasible on the xbox unless they get some form of dynamic recompiler core.
Post by: bigga on August 18, 2003, 01:00:00 AM
Post by: GaijinPunch on August 18, 2003, 01:00:00 AM
Damn I wish someone could write a decent open source Saturn one. As it's been stated before -- emulation and commercial don't belong in the same sentence.
Post by: ZASADAR on August 18, 2003, 03:45:00 AM
lol plz dont hate me but i dont realy care for saturn emulation i remember my uncle allways tried to make me trade my psx for that thing I could only play it for a day BUT i didnt get to try all the games and im an old sonic fan only tried the sega version
hopefully the next best thing to be out is probably going to be great direct x and opengl support for linux so we dont need as much porting and if i am lucky maybe a bios or something that allows you to use your xbox as a computer either one is GREAT!
Post by: cainedna on August 18, 2003, 05:00:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| A lot of people seem eager for a Saturn emu. My question is why? |
Guardian Heroes, for starters. If you haven't played that, you're missing out so badly. After that, there's Fighting Vipers, Die Hard Arcade, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Fighters Megamix, Sonic Fighters, Virtual On, The Virtual Cop series, Burning Rangers, Sonic Jam (we can emulate the otehr games in it already, but there are a lot of cool extras you won't even find the the newer GC Sonic Collection)... I can actually keep going. The Saturn was way underrated, mainly because it was lacking heavily in the 3D Department. The controller is still the best for Capcom fighters (if you like using a Dpad,) and if the emulation works correctly, Street Fighter Alpha 3 kicks raw ass on it, as it has all the characters the PSX one did, as well as the 2-on-1 option with any characters you want.
I was a total PSX fanboy back in the actual days of the Saturn, but I learned the error of my ways...
Post by: anti-pop on August 18, 2003, 06:33:00 AM
) is using linux mainly for emulation.There's a lot of room for improvement regarding linux on xbox, and when some of that work will be done, i think emulation on linux will be a good "alternative" solution.
I may be wrong, but at the moment, it doesn't seem like a lot of people are playing emu on their box through linux, right ?
Post by: -x- on August 18, 2003, 06:39:00 AM
Magic Kinights
Sega Rally
Symphony with extra stages, chracters and moves
Shining Force 3
Those are some of the top of my head
Post by: Bender_Unit_1 on August 18, 2003, 10:25:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Authors getting reimbursement for their hard work?! GASP! The commercial saturn team have accomplished alot more than anyone else, and obviously invested a lot of time in it - why shouldn't they charge for it? |
Sega didn't develop GiriGiri.
IMO, Sega Saturn was the only good Sega Console released. I never liked DreamCast, and Sega Genesis only had a couple good games. The other ones I never even really cared to look at.
-Bender
Post by: Heet on August 18, 2003, 10:54:00 AM
Post by: UberJim on August 18, 2003, 11:36:00 AM
Post by: Dante_Ali on August 18, 2003, 01:11:00 PM
Post by: dmb062082 on August 18, 2003, 02:35:00 PM
| QUOTE (UberJim @ Aug 18 2003, 08:36 PM) |
| I would like to see some more Homebrew Original games. That was great for Dreamcast. |
Hopefully someone ports over dan potters shit sometime soon, I know its rocking on the pc now. With that said and done we would have the dreamcast scene.... on your xbox's. All the homebrew games/emus as well in thier glory. If this did happen though.... the dreamcast would finaly be dead to the underground as well, so maybe this dosnt happen, long live the dreamcast.
Post by: Large Dopant white on August 18, 2003, 09:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (Dante_Ali @ Aug 18 2003, 10:11 PM) |
| The next big thing would have to be a free, mature, open source SDK (much in the same vein as OpenXDK) that would enable developers to ditch the XDK and post their binaries on regular websites. This would attract the kind of people that have steered clear of Xbox development for now because the tools they would have to use to develop had to be 'warezed'. |
Iriez claimed that there'd be one sometime soon. But I hit that one on the nail when I stated that it's probably not gonna happen. It's a damn shame, really... it'd be what this scene needs for a boost of serious developers, not just porters (not to say porting is easy, mind you... but it's not as hard as writing something from scratch).
EDIT: Forgot to mention that he claimed there'd be a contest for one sometime soon. Didn't mean to imply he said we'd see results by now!
Post by: ZASADAR on August 18, 2003, 09:43:00 PM
maybe then we might get a little closer to overclocking but i was told this is impossible no one else seems to see it as a possibility so it must be?
also no dc emulation i thought that was gonna be emulated for sure on the xbox i thought dc was using directx commands too but theres only a couple of dc games i kinda liked but not a big deal soul calibur is comn out for xbox lol
im very happy with the emulation thats out right now but after all i done with the xbox and all after a while it just reminds me how sick of the psx and 64 i was before i moved on now i think i liked the thought of modding the xbox more then what i did with it when it was modd lol i gues thats kinda stupid
but i believe if there was a good enough linux os for the xbox it would help the xemulation scene allot but i could be wrong
Post by: the_casanova on August 19, 2003, 06:14:00 AM
this is how it is..you guys screem all day all i whant is a n64 whit sound and support for mario64
you gett that and 2 relly good ones..
next day you say where is my saturn
if you would gett that then you say where is my updated perfect n64
if you gett that you say where is my game cube and ps2...
you newer gett happy.. What i ment whas
play what you gott and stop beeing sutch retards
damn i am happy nes works i dident buy my xbox for emus
so i am happy whit what i gott
this post whas to those ho trashed me
sorry for bad eng
Post by: the_casanova on August 19, 2003, 06:18:00 AM
it is as easy as that
Post by: mamajo on August 19, 2003, 02:55:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Pay for emulators are you serious? Don't you guys rememer Bleem! Well I guess not because it was the first commercial emulator (PSX) and was killed instantly by Sony. Anyone who attempts selling their emu's will lose every penny they have in a legal battle vs. Sony,MS,Nintendo,etc. and will LOSE the lawsuit. I guess humans never learn from their mistakes. |
I just felt like quoting myself!
I said this 2 days ago but still the debate goes on!
STUPID HUMANS!!! (mee stoopid 2!)
Post by: HumanClay on August 20, 2003, 07:04:00 PM
Post by: ZASADAR on August 21, 2003, 08:24:00 AM
Post by: Keito-Kun on August 21, 2003, 10:07:00 AM
But I can surf on my computer anyways.
Post by: devlkore on August 21, 2003, 11:41:00 AM
Post by: Mage on August 21, 2003, 12:39:00 PM
Thanks