Post by: djoye on August 05, 2003, 06:09:00 PM
Guess we're screwed on this one! LATER!@#
Post by: ZASADAR on August 05, 2003, 06:53:00 PM
Post by: CraiZEAH on August 05, 2003, 07:10:00 PM
Seriously with my knowledge its possible to run it with a decent speed on an xbox. But that's just guessing, not
facts.
I don't know if anyone works on it, still its highly anticipated. And to all those who are now saying "we cannot load over 400MB into RAM dumbass"
Well KI2 used a HDD, so we don't need to load it into the ram.
I just hope someone will do it someday, even if the result would only be 30FPS it would be godlike to me.
Post by: brandogg on August 05, 2003, 07:58:00 PM
Post by: djoye on August 05, 2003, 08:11:00 PM
Post by: djoye on August 05, 2003, 08:51:00 PM
http://kiame.emuhq.com/downloads.shtml
And RAM has nothing to do with how fast KI runs on MAMEoX, the KI 1&2 ROMs are only 5MB.
Post by: DaGamePimp on August 06, 2003, 12:19:00 AM
... wrong , the actual KI and KI2 roms are huge [ as far as roms are concerned , I know KI2 is at least several hundred meg ] . Maybe you are looking at the Super Nintendo roms .---DGP---
Post by: BLoTt0_AI on August 06, 2003, 01:16:00 AM
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| Heh, the N64 version is no match for the real Arcade KI2 |
It bugged me how they said the n64 was going to have the same performance as the arcade hardware. That was such hype.
Post by: Dante_Ali on August 06, 2003, 01:35:00 AM
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| It bugged me how they said the n64 was going to have the same performance as the arcade hardware. That was such hype. |
Ummm, the N64 hardware was in fact FAR MORE POWERFUL than the Midway hardware that Killer Instinct 1 and 2 ran on. The only limiting factor was the cartridge medium - in terms of raw specs there's no comparison - the R4300i processor developed by Silicon Graphics was only second to 3Dfx graphics chips in their 3D polygon pushing power at the time. The Midway hardware could have never handled something like Ocarina of Time or Super Mario 64 at 60 or even 30fps.
The reason why Killer Instinct Gold had worse graphics than KI2 was because of the cartridge medium - less memory space called for tighter compression, which meant losing tons of frames and cutscenes. Remember that KI Gold had to fit everything into a 64Mbit / 96Mbit cart (I'm not sure which of the two, I think 64Mbit). That's 8MB for a port of an arcade game that is well over a hundred megs big. I think I'm sure you could see Rare's dilemma at the time.
Post by: SxualVnilla on August 06, 2003, 01:38:00 AM
Post by: BLoTt0_AI on August 06, 2003, 06:33:00 AM
Post by: djoye on August 06, 2003, 06:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (DaGamePimp @ Aug 6 2003, 08:19 AM) |
| ... wrong , the actual KI and KI2 roms are huge [ as far as roms are concerned , I know KI2 is at least several hundred meg ] . Maybe you are looking at the Super Nintendo roms . ---DGP--- |
ROMs:
KI1 = 5MB
KI2 = 5MB
HD image (CHD):
KI1 = 93MB
KI2 = 136MB
The HD images don't need to be loaded into RAM so they're out of the picture. MAME will just read the HD image from the XBOX HD during game play.
Post by: Teralus on August 06, 2003, 06:45:00 AM
Here
So it Killer Instinct should be running on xbox soon!!
Post by: crobar on August 06, 2003, 10:57:00 AM
needless to say this is a subject we should all keep our eyes on.
im also a big fan of funding this work... these games needto hit the xbox
Post by: gamemaster14 on August 06, 2003, 11:35:00 AM
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| ROMs: KI1 = 5MB KI2 = 5MB HD image (CHD): KI1 = 93MB KI2 = 136MB |
Since U64emu uses img format hard drive images the imges are much larger.
Post by: djoye on August 06, 2003, 12:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (gamemaster14 @ Aug 6 2003, 07:35 PM) | ||
Since U64emu uses img format hard drive images the imges are much larger. |
Doesn't matter, they'll still be read from the HD. The larger KI HD images may actually be more efficient but I'm not sure. I think the CHD files that MAME uses are compressed HD images so I assume if the uncompressed .IMG files are used that it may take a small load off the CPU since it won't have to decompress data real-time.