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Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: dentist07 on April 30, 2004, 03:30:00 PM

Xport, I downloaded the snatcher iso from the web and was able to play it using neogenesis, but everytime I get to a certain point in the game it freezes (right after Gillian enters the car with metal gear for the first time). I have the iso and mp3's in a bin file in my xbox. What can I do to solve this? I'm very much a newbie to this stuff, so if you could, please try to explain in as clear and concise way as possible.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: deathx88 on April 30, 2004, 03:38:00 PM

why is this post up here
neogenesis is already at version 16

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: XPort on August 02, 2003, 12:02:00 PM

NeoGenesis Sega Genesis/Megadrive/32X/SegaCD/MegaCD Emulator for XBox v5

http://xport.xbox-scene.com/

Sorry about the "two releases in 30 minutes" thing....but I think you'll like this one:

What's New:
- Save States for CD games are now working (!)
This is a feature even the windows version of Gens does not have.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: cainedna on August 02, 2003, 12:05:00 PM

QUOTE

Sorry about the "two releases in 30 minutes" thing

I'm afraid we'll never forgive you for this, Xport.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: XPort on August 02, 2003, 12:38:00 PM

Well, the jury's still out until I hear from the Italians....

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: wongtong2g on August 02, 2003, 12:12:00 PM

QUOTE

I'm afraid we'll never forgive you for this, Xport.

I agree - how horendous

lol - keep em comin brotha - you are officially knighted as of now, sir Xport

This post has been edited by wongtong2g: Aug 2 2003, 07:15 PM

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: IonBlade on August 02, 2003, 12:42:00 PM

XPort, I thought you were awesome before. Now I'm going to have to come up with a word that holds more weight than awesome :-P

Thanks so much for all your hard work on these emus - now I'm off to FINALLY take a shot at winning Sewer Shark! Save states for CD rule!

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: LepPpeR on August 02, 2003, 12:43:00 PM

Nothing much else to say but that I love you.

LepPpeR

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: x999x on August 02, 2003, 12:47:00 PM

Jezus Harold Christ on a Bike man... YOU'RE BLOODY INSANE!!! You know, Xport, you practically ARE the "scene" man! Kudos...

BTW-
How's the programming of the Matrix 1 coming along Xport? Or should I refer to you as the Architect now?

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Beelzebud on August 02, 2003, 12:19:00 PM

Thanks Xport. Great work on the save states for CD games!

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: jizzlobber on August 02, 2003, 12:46:00 PM

Oh now that's really cool, good stuff xport!
shame I can't just d/l the xbe for these releases

with the save states thing worked out will you mention it to the gens people? they must be interested.

EDIT- I don't mean to go OT here but it's better than creating a new thread... If you ever update your SMS emu again do you think you could fix the tearing? I don't want to sound demanding here but I figure you have it all sussed out with the neogen fix.

This post has been edited by jizzlobber: Aug 2 2003, 07:51 PM

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: wongtong2g on August 02, 2003, 12:53:00 PM

a friend of mine screamed "marry me" but i had to remind her that you were taken

and to think a few months ago you had the nerve to put up a post saying "im xport, dont know if you know me, but i ported ... to the xbox. I doubt ill be remembered for this in the long run" or somethin like that. If anyone forgets you (which is damn near impossible) ill be the first one to tie them up and splatter their brains

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Bender_Unit_1 on August 02, 2003, 01:07:00 PM

VERY nice.

-Bender

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Gillian_Seed on August 02, 2003, 01:37:00 PM

Big thanks Xport. The Sega Cd save states means the world to me. :: Goes to play Snatcher & Adventures of Willy Beamish:: : P

This post has been edited by Gillian_Seed: Aug 2 2003, 08:39 PM

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: parsifal968 on August 02, 2003, 01:12:00 PM

QUOTE (XPort @ Aug 2 2003, 09:02 PM)

Well, the jury's still out until I hear from the Italians....

OK, i'm Italian and confirm... you ownz the "xbox scene"

your work is one of the motivations to send me to the store and buyed my Xbox!

Many many thanks for your great work!
... and is free!!! thanks again!

....

Sono italiano e a mio parere tu sei la cosa migliore che possa avere la scena xbox.
Il tuo lavoro è uno dei motivi che mi ha spinto ad acquistare la mia Xbox!

Tantissimi ringraziamenti per il tuo splendido lavoro!
... e per giunta è gratis!!! grazie ancora!

This post has been edited by parsifal968: Aug 2 2003, 08:14 PM

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Schmoov on August 02, 2003, 02:10:00 PM

Savestates? You are insane - i owe you something, where's that paypal button

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: dsj1 on August 02, 2003, 03:05:00 PM

This question applies to both the hugo-x v8 and the new neogenesis v5 emulator:

Regarding the .iso/mp3 files for sega cd and turbo duo:

Can I put my .iso/.cue/.mp3's into folders and put those folders into the roms dir?
also is it fine to make up a disc with say 25 sega cd's games-some are very small after converting with cddissect tool!
say folder "dracula-x" put into roms folder of hugo-x v8 etc. same for sega cd's.

thanks so much!!

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: XPort on August 02, 2003, 02:44:00 PM

dsj1 - yes

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Dante_Ali on August 02, 2003, 02:47:00 PM

Thanks very much for fixing the 32X issue Xport (and now the CD savestate bug!). It's really amazing how easily you seem to fix these bugs.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: dsj1 on August 02, 2003, 03:48:00 PM

Xport thanks for answering my question-also i feel very grateful to you for making these awesome xbox emulators aswell as taking the time to answer questions you are a great person!

Also 1 last thing should i use your supplied dracula-x cue or just make a .cue/.iso/.mp3 from a turbo duo cd myself? is there something different about that .cue than what i would get by making one from a standard cd?

thanks again!!

You rule!

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Keito-Kun on August 02, 2003, 03:59:00 PM

Xport, the porter on speed.
Almost too fast.

Keep up the good work.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Dante_Ali on August 02, 2003, 04:09:00 PM

CD Save States still seem to lock up on me. I tried Sonic CD and I saved it to Slot 1 at the title screen. I played for a bit and then tried to load from State 1. The title screen would show up for a brief second and then the thing would lock up and I had to reset my Xbox.

Have I configured something wrong or is this happening to others too?

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Dalonomus on August 02, 2003, 04:45:00 PM

Problem solved!!

Xport is some sort of emulation god!!

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: CraiZEAH on August 02, 2003, 04:46:00 PM

Nice work Xport, maybe you should share it with Stef? I mean
the SegaCD Saves working, cause if you added to the current CVS
2.12a this on your own, i bet the PC community would like it too.

Wheter you do it or not lies in your hands, im happy enough with
the Xbox having it only personally

Good job, now i actually have to switch to yours.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: XPort on August 02, 2003, 04:53:00 PM

Dante - I just tried exactly what you said and it worked fine for me. The CD games I've tested saving states on are: Sonic CD, Popful Mail, Ecco, Flink, and Lunar. For all of those games, I've tried saving at various positions in the game and then loaded the save states again from various different places. I've also tried loading states from the very first "sega cd" intro screen that you see when you first start a sega cd game. Everything has worked fine for me. Is your copy a mega-cd? I can't imagine that would make a difference, but I'm just trying to figure out how things are different between our setups.

re: submitting to stef, etc. It's too early to say anything in this regard. It works for me obviously, but I need more reports. So far all I've heard is one person who has tried it and failed.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Dante_Ali on August 02, 2003, 05:15:00 PM

XPort: It's the US Sega CD version. I tried removing the save from the previous NeoGenesis release, I tried deleting all the saves in Save Game Management and it still locks up for me.

Here is the exact procedure:

1:Ï load Soniccd.iso. The Sega CD screen pops up, I press Start. I get the 'RAM is not initialized' screen. Press right thumb button, go back to menu.

2:I load Soniccd.iso again, this time I press A and I go to Memory. Press A again and select ''Format RAM'''. Select Yes when asked to Format.

3:Select "CDROM".

4:At the title screen, I press Start and then, at the screen that shows New Game, I press the right thumbbutton, and select Save State. Exit to the game and press the Start button to begin.

5: I play for a few seconds then press the Right thumbbutton and select Load State.

6: My Xbox locks up.

I have a version 1.0 Xbox, have set my EEPROM to NTSC 60Hz and I'm using the latest EvolutionX dashboard. The dongle is inserted into Port 2 and I have a PS2 to USB converter with a PS2 keyboard to it attached on Port 3. (though I doubt either the dongle or the keyboard has anything to do with).

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: CraiZEAH on August 02, 2003, 05:25:00 PM

Xport, The Games you tested saved with his bugs before fine, except Lunar, except after 50% of playing the game it somehow
erased the old state, and didnt write the new one. This is just
too much to ask you to test, so yeah, ppl gotta test it and report.

I hope it will work out that you helped out the Sega Emulation,
plus made the first step towards it on xbox, respect for that.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: XPort on August 02, 2003, 05:38:00 PM

dante - I just tried exactly what you said and it's still working for me. I was hoping it'd be something silly like I put the wrong XBE in the release, but I redownloaded it to be sure and it's the right version. The only difference is that I'm running off a real Sonic CD. My testing with Popful Mail was via ISO/MP3, however, and that also works fine. Have you tried any other CD games?

Craizeah - I'm not talking about saving states. I'm talking about reloading them. You could save states in any CD game from Neogenesis v1.....loading them back is the issue.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Dante_Ali on August 02, 2003, 05:42:00 PM

QUOTE

Yeah, I just tried Popful Mail and it saved fine, so I think the saving function works fine on other games.

Anyway, here's what my CD files are named like on the HDD:

They are in a subdirectory called "sonic cd", which in turn is located in the subdirectory "sega cd". (Maybe it's a subdir bug, maybe not.)

The MP3 files are all named like this:

soniccd 01.mp3 > soniccd 35.mp3

and the ISO is named > soniccd.iso

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: XPort on August 02, 2003, 05:47:00 PM

Have you tried saving at any other point in Sonic CD? It should not make a difference what you call your files since that information is not saved.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Dante_Ali on August 02, 2003, 05:54:00 PM

Yup tried on various places and it still locks up.

Is it a problem related to my ISO?

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: XPort on August 02, 2003, 05:57:00 PM

If you've played the game all the way through on your ISO then I'm sure that's not the problem.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Dante_Ali on August 02, 2003, 06:21:00 PM

QUOTE (XPort @ Aug 3 2003, 02:50 AM)

If you've played the game all the way through on your ISO then I'm sure that's not the problem.

Yes I finished the game on my PC with Gens before your or Hikaru's Gens port was even released and I never saw something strange or out of the ordinary that suggested to me that it was a corrupted ISO.

It's still strange that this error is not reproducable on your Xbox, though. Oh well, it's not that big of an issue.

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: Knocks on August 02, 2003, 06:21:00 PM

rock on!

Title: Neogenesis V5
Post by: XPort on August 02, 2003, 07:14:00 PM

Dante_ali - I ripped Sonic CD and played from ISO/MP3 and was able to duplicate your problem. I've fixed it. Download v6 and try it out.