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Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: FlashKick on January 14, 2004, 04:11:00 PM
nevermind, got it working! i think jap bios is different.
anyway, this game looks gorgeous with good filtering
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: UnhappyKlown3 on January 14, 2004, 05:20:00 PM
QUOTE (FlashKick @ Jan 14 2004, 08:11 PM)
nevermind, got it working!

Kudos on using the search feature though.   biggrin.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 24, 2003, 10:40:00 AM
NeoGenesis Sega Genesis/Megadrive/32X/SegaCD/MegaCD Emulator for XBox v1

Features :

- Full sound/video

- Excellent compatibility - ported from Gens

- Runs real Sega CDs that you put in your XBox DVD drive or it can
  read ISO/MP3 and BIN image files

- CUE sheet processing for more accurate CD-MP3 playback

- CDDISSECT-friendly. Rip with CDDISSECT, upload to XBOX, run CUE

- Selectable GENS settings : (see notes below feature list)
   + Country code ( Autodetect or force a specific country code )
   + CD Emulation Method - Perfect Synchro or Normal
   + 4-player adaptor on port 1 or port 2
   + Show CD LEDs
   + Fast Blur Effect
   + Sprite Limit
   + YM2612 Improvement
   + DAC Improvement
   + PSG Improvement
   + Selectable MSH2 processor speed
   + Selectable SSH2 processor speed

- ZIP support

- Netplay

- Netplay option to allow for smoother netplay : netplay skip.
  When server starts netplay, you can select a netplay skip value.
  This number specifies how often it should skip checking for network data.
  The higher the number, the less often it checks for network data, but the
  result will be a less responsive controller.

- Cheat system - Search/Create your own cheat codes or enter Game Genie codes

- Favorites list

- Resizable game screen

- Save Game management - delete save game files

- Skin-able :
   - Backgrounds
   - Sounds
   - Background Music
   - Sprites
   - Text position (right/left/center, top/bottom/center)
   - Text color, select bar color
   - Font
   - Fading speed
   - Screenshot position
   - Can specify 2 sprites to surround the selected menu option
   - Option to have a transparent select-bar color (from select-color menu)
   - Can flip sprites horizontally/vertically
   - If you want to change the way something looks in this new UI,
     chances are that you can change it via the Configuration menu.

- Samba/NetBIOS sharing support (read files from your PC)

- Relax Network Sharing (read files from your PC)

- Support for filenames > 42 chars from shared directories

- Play MP3 or M3U playlists in the background
  (Can also read MP3/M3U from across Samba/Relax shares.)

- User definable save directory.  If you don't like the default of
  E:SAVESNEOGENESIS you can change it via the NEOGENESIS.INI file

- Take in-game screenshots and display them on the game selection list

- Graphics filters :
    + 2xSai
    + Super 2xSai
    + Eagle
    + Super Eagle
    + SuperScale
    + AdvanceMame 2x
    + Simple 2x
    + 2xSai Scanline
    + Super 2xSai Scanline
    + Eagle Scanline
    + Super Eagle Scanline
    + SuperScale Scanline

- Record/Playback feature - record your gameplay in the emu and then
  play it back again.  Record up to 10 minutes of gameplay.

- Every single in-game command is fully customizable on any of the
  four joypad controllers.

- Map any emulator or UI command to a single button or a combination of
  two buttons.  (e.g. RTrigger+LTrigger = Save State)
  Basically, the controllers are 100% customizable.

- Autofire capabilities for any emulator button on any controller

- One-button combos (define a series of emulator commands to be played
  back when you press a user-definable XBox controller combination.)
  (E.g. Press RTrigger+LTrigger to execute the command string
  A,B,A,B,Up,Down,Left,Right)

- Traverse any directory on any drive ( Continue selecting the parent
  directory entry on the file selection list to get the drive selection
  list.  Selectable drives are C, D, E, F, R, X, Y, Z, and SMB.
  R is the CDROM drive.  SMB is the samba share you have defined in your
  NEOGENESIS.ini file.  RLX is the relax share you have defined in your
  NEOGENESIS.ini file.)  Press Y from any file-listing screen to go up one
  directory level.

- Save States with 10 save state slots for each game

- All UI commands (save state, load state, screenshot, etc) can be
  invoked from the Options/Pause menu as well as in-game via your
  customized joypad mappings.

- Can be invoked from a command-line to directly run a game from a front-end
  or dashboard and bypass the user-selection screens. (Only if the frontend
  or dashboard supports this feature.)

- Can return to the launching program *if* the launching program supports this
  feature.  For example, if the custom-launch routines are incorporated into
  a new frontend, that frontend could launch NeoGenesis and when you exit
  NeoGenesis, that frontend can be automatically reloaded.  

- Flapjack and a cigarette
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: noodle1009 on July 24, 2003, 10:47:00 AM
sweet christ in a smoking birch bark canoe!  Do you sleep?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Nice work man!  And flapjack and cigarette support - an emulation first!  biggrin.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Bender_Unit_1 on July 24, 2003, 10:50:00 AM
Very cool, indeed!
Go Xport!

-Bender
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: cainedna on July 24, 2003, 10:50:00 AM
C'mon Xport... what's the catch here? You're releasing kick-ass emu ports on the Xbox for free week after week. Are you hiding subliminal hypnotizing messages in them, trying to create an army of gaming geeks?

Meh. I appreciate your work enough I'd join willingly. laugh.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: D-Back on July 24, 2003, 10:53:00 AM
Another great release from Xport!

Thanks man, and take a break already smile.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: gamemaster14 on July 24, 2003, 11:04:00 AM
I have said it once I will say it again xport is the god of the xbox scene
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Gillian_Seed on July 24, 2003, 11:11:00 AM
Simply incredible Xport.  Simply... incredible...
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Ces2k3 on July 24, 2003, 11:15:00 AM
i gotta give ya  props for that,yo man beerchug.gif n u running the emu scene right now
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: amrod on July 24, 2003, 11:18:00 AM
Um... i tried this emu but i can't get the D pad or stick on the right hand side to move my player (sonic in sonic 3 or spinball) could this be a bug or something ?


btw sound is killer on it and everything else works great except the whole controller thing ...


EDIT N/M
in the config you gotta do it cause it was put to weird stuff by default... works killer now

This post has been edited by amrod: Jul 24 2003, 06:19 PM
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 24, 2003, 11:20:00 AM
Have you tried configuring the controller?  
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: amrod on July 24, 2003, 11:23:00 AM
yea by default the up was like R trigger or something and L trigger was down or something weird but it works now... great job i really love your work smile.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 24, 2003, 11:25:00 AM
You'll only get those wacky defaults if you have previously used GensXPort for a particular game.  The old controller mappings used in GensXPort for that particular game are being read into NeoGenesis and throws it off.  If you've never used GensXPort before, the default mappings should be set to sane values.

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Ces2k3 on July 24, 2003, 11:30:00 AM
well i always recomened xenises instead of gens xport but if the sounds problem that the other one had is fixed then  ima have to grab it
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Bender_Unit_1 on July 24, 2003, 11:33:00 AM
I just grabbed it. Can't wait to try it out! I have yet to delete DGen v4 from my xbox heh. I think this one will take the cake.

-Bender

edit: Definitely better than DGen v4!!! Definitely a great emulator! Kudos to you, Xport!

This post has been edited by Bender_Unit_1: Jul 24 2003, 07:04 PM
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 24, 2003, 11:41:00 AM
ces2k3 - what sound problem?  Are you talking about Gens-x or GensXPort ?

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: baturkin17 on July 24, 2003, 11:41:00 AM
god damb Xport, you are unreal.

you do great work.

and genesis is my favorite console(besides xbox) so this is great.

thank you so much.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: NightL1fe on July 24, 2003, 11:54:00 AM
wicked!! no more purple menu screen genesis for me ! off to the usual spots i got to complete my xport emulator collection lol..
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: gonkle on July 24, 2003, 11:58:00 AM
maybe the next step is something like hikaru was working on,
one gui for all of them.
Is there a SMS/Gamegear from xport?
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Heet on July 24, 2003, 12:06:00 PM
what would the scene be without you?
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: chevi on July 24, 2003, 12:10:00 PM
THANKS Xport, you´re the god of xbox emu scene
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: tlc on July 24, 2003, 12:27:00 PM
Xport is the best Xbox developer outside of Bungie.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: johnney5 on July 24, 2003, 12:32:00 PM
QUOTE
- Flapjack and a cigarette



laugh.gif HAHAHahhaah  tongue.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: desertboy on July 24, 2003, 12:37:00 PM
QUOTE (tlc @ Jul 24 2003, 09:27 PM)
Xport is the best Xbox developer outside of Bungie.

LOL
Don't get me wrong Xport's great and his work is appreciated by tens of thousands of people but I don't think I'd go so far as to say he was the 2nd best developer for the xbox even homebrew, I think we forget XBMP or Evox, also where's Namco and Tecmo.

My Dune cd seems to work now something it didn't under the previous releases, (It is a differnet box now)

For an eeprom check the online gaming section on these forum make me laugh.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: dafoomie on July 24, 2003, 12:44:00 PM
Ah, nevermind, I see now.  You can actually go into the segacd dash and format the ram cartridge.  Even more props to you.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: shorty on July 24, 2003, 12:45:00 PM
Left me speachless for a bit there, this is getting silly, when do you sleep?

I do have a small question about the drive mappings, if the cd-rom is R then what is D?

meh..... i'll find out when i have it installed soon, and i'll report back incase anyone else was wandering..... cheers dude
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: tlc on July 24, 2003, 12:53:00 PM
QUOTE (desertboy @ Jul 24 2003, 09:37 PM)
LOL
Don't get me wrong Xport's great and his work is appreciated by tens of thousands of people but I don't think I'd go so far as to say he was the 2nd best developer for the xbox even homebrew, I think we forget XBMP or Evox, also where's Namco and Tecmo.

That was meant to be a somewhat tongue-in-cheek response.  Perhaps, I should actually start utilizing these emoticons.

Xport still rocks, though (as do the Evox and XBMP guys).
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: gonkle on July 24, 2003, 12:54:00 PM
I had 2 crashes, one in the menu, without doing nothing,
it hangs, than now trying to get the relax share, there is no debug msg in relax,
and he hangs, have some subfolders there.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: BoondockSteveO on July 24, 2003, 12:55:00 PM
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Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: NamSey on July 24, 2003, 01:07:00 PM
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Infinity Cheers to XPort!!!!

Great job and keep it up!
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: gamemaster14 on July 24, 2003, 01:08:00 PM
is there any way to set the controller config and not have to config it every time you play a game?
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 24, 2003, 01:08:00 PM
QUOTE
'rom_dir=' in the ini seams to be ignored, i always get the root folder.


Yes, that's a bug.  It's now fixed.  I'll wait for more reports before putting out another version, though.

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Predalex on July 24, 2003, 01:09:00 PM
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Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 24, 2003, 01:13:00 PM
QUOTE
is there any way to set the controller config and not have to config it every time you play a game?


You shouldn't have to do that except with games that you've already played in GensXPort.  When you start a game that you have never played before, it will use the currently defined joypad mappings.  The current joypad mappings are whatever you most recently set them to be.  When you play a game you have played before, it loads the last mappings you had defined for it from the HD.  Those mappings then become the "current joypad mappings."

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: dmb062082 on July 24, 2003, 01:20:00 PM
QUOTE (gonkle @ Jul 24 2003, 08:58 PM)
maybe the next step is something like hikaru was working on,
one gui for all of them.
Is there a SMS/Gamegear from xport?

Thats something thats allways excited me.. and all of xports latest emu released would implement very easy... but design quality like hikarus would be hard to rival. Its just the damn animated menus which move, something very profesional about them but i cant put my finger on it. Shame he gave up allready.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Ces2k3 on July 24, 2003, 01:26:00 PM
whoops xport i ment gens x
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: maniaX on July 24, 2003, 02:17:00 PM
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got a really annoying problem though.
I set in main configuration the joypad remapping, but it wont be taken in
the games i start. Thus i have to change joypad config for every single game.
The happens with games i have had already started and those were launched
the first time. Bug or my fault ?
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Gmc on July 24, 2003, 02:27:00 PM
Nice work Xport!
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Jse on July 24, 2003, 02:32:00 PM
xport.......................
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: AkumAPRIME on July 24, 2003, 02:33:00 PM
I think Xports payback is the intense praise we all give him for his wonderful work. THis thread has been nice too, no Fin flamers. But if you happen to read this XPORT, Dream Cast should be your next attempt. A TRUE chalenge. Whereas Atari and all these other ancient systems may be fun and satisfy the few who want them, a DC emulator would be hard as Fuck to get out there, if even feasible at all.

What ever you choose to release next, Il DL it.

More praise, etc...
EHB
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: parsifal968 on July 24, 2003, 02:34:00 PM
Xport: are you a MAN or a CPU?

....
the worst thing of Xbox: Bill G.
the best thing of Xbox: Xport
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Rileq on July 24, 2003, 02:50:00 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but XPort is porting already existing emus to the Xbox. AFA Dreamcast goes, Icarus isn't even released; so I wouldn't hold my breath about a DC emu anytime soon.

As far as Xport...man...what to say? You are awesome.....   beerchug.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: AkumAPRIME on July 24, 2003, 03:06:00 PM
:::Holding breath:::
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 24, 2003, 03:08:00 PM
re: porting already existing emus

There's a little truth to that - but that's mostly not the case.

Stella (Atari 2600), Z26 (Atari 2600), Gnuboy (GB/GBC) , SMSPlus (GG/SMS), HUGO (TG16/PCE), NeoPop (NGPC), DGen (Sega Genesis), Bochs (X86), FMSXBox (MSX), Bliss (Intellivision), WinSTon (Atari ST), StepmaniX (Stepmania), PCSXBox (PSX) were all first in their respective categories.  

The first version of X-NES came before the first version of FCEUltra.  V1 of both of them were about a year ago.  X-Nes was not very compatible, however, which is why I ported FCEUltra.

Hikaru did the first port of Gens, but there were many reports of sound issues and certain CD games would not play - so I ported Gens (GensXPort) to clear up these issues.  Then came Xenesis.  Now there's NeoGenesis which is really just GensXPort with a new name and the new UI that I'm putting on all of my previous work.  

Similar situation with XBoyAdvance.  There were already 3 diff. GBA emulators, but it seemed like every other day I would hear something about "none of the GBA emus do this or that".  So I decided to do a port VBA also.  Mine is the only one to play Tactics Ogre and Wario Ware's reflect game (among other things.)

Generally, my rule of thumb is to *not* port something that has already been done unless the only existing ports are lacking in some regard *and* development on them seems to have stopped.  

So in a nutshell - no - I am not just doing what's already been done.  Most of my work represents the origins of those various systems being emulated on the XBox.

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: NightL1fe on July 24, 2003, 03:08:00 PM
hey xport..

seems to be a minor setting problem with the screen shot binded to black button and in game the c button is also binded to the black button so everytime i try to jump it puases for a sec to take a screen shot.. just had to go to options and binded the screen shot button to nothing and it fixed the problem..

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Bender_Unit_1 on July 24, 2003, 03:15:00 PM
QUOTE
Correct me if I'm wrong, but XPort is porting already existing emus to the Xbox

Well, it is hard to port emulators that do not exist... rofl

Anyways, you're right that he's currently implementing his new GUI (among other features) to emulators he has already ported. And that is a very very very good thing!!! Of course, he's ported new emulators along the way, too. All his hard work is definitely showing. It's impressive how quickly he's working, and how equally quickly he fixes any discovered bugs. Kudos to Xport

-Bender

EDIT: I just noticed Xport posted in reply to this... so ummmm... yeah
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Zackeriah on July 24, 2003, 04:33:00 PM
Hey X-port! Great work! I love all your emus... especially XboyAdvance.

Just a quick question... have you ever thought about porting the Jaguar emulator Project Tempest to the Xbox? I would ask about a 3DO or CD-i emulator too, but I don't think an open source emulator exists for those two consoles.

Thanks!
Zack
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: MrX_Cuci on July 24, 2003, 04:35:00 PM
Very, very cool indeed. I can't say any more to that. All your Xbox emu's rule big time.  biggrin.gif

This might be a long shot, but please, pretty please port the Amiga CD 32 emulator Akiko. The source is available. I can supply you with original games if you need some for testing. This might even be a nice challenge for you. Now I am gonna shut up and user posted imageuser posted imageuser posted image

Cheers,
MrX_Cuci
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: hawkswim32 on July 24, 2003, 04:35:00 PM
THANKS XPORT

Great freeking program.  I just played Afterburner fro Sega CD(My Sega CD blew up, I took it apart =) ) Awesome job!!!

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Arakon on July 24, 2003, 04:37:00 PM
no go on the smb shares for me. tried every single of the suggested formats. smb shares work flawless in xbmp, so it's not my PC's setup.
with half the settings it freezes for a moment when selecting SMB, so it seems to try to look for shares.. with the other half, it goes straight to the empty smb listing without even trying to check the network. any unmentioned rules on upper/lowercase etc?
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: FaMiNe on July 24, 2003, 04:41:00 PM
Arakon, check one of my other posts in this forum for a workaround.

Link
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: pyskoyly on July 24, 2003, 04:55:00 PM
this is sweeet XPORT... havent try it but gonna try it as soon as i get it... thanks you  beerchug.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Rileq on July 24, 2003, 04:58:00 PM
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Rileq  love.gif  Xport!
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: mamajo on July 24, 2003, 06:21:00 PM
Holly Christmas your finished already!!! -- black guy in Splinter Cell

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Benji99 on July 24, 2003, 06:39:00 PM
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URL: http://www.smspower.org/meka/

Again, keep the good work, and ecstatic to see what's next  smile.gif

Benji99
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: FaMiNe on July 24, 2003, 06:46:00 PM
Benji99, xport already ported a(n) SMS emulator, SMSPlus...

I think he just left the name as SMSPlus for his xbox port.

Anyway, I imagine he'll add his UI stuff for that sooner or later.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Ces2k3 on July 24, 2003, 06:54:00 PM
hey xport why the music on aladdin play faster than it should is there a way to fix this ,if u dont  think it is i suggest u  try xenises
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 24, 2003, 07:13:00 PM
re Aladdin - Plays perfectly fine here, so I have no way of knowing what you're talking about.  Might be a 50/60 hz issue, though.

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Ces2k3 on July 24, 2003, 07:29:00 PM
so is there a way of fixing or slowing down the sound im sure it just a config prob im gonna try another version of the rom i let ya know what happens
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Foe-hammer on July 24, 2003, 07:38:00 PM
Thanks again for another outstanding emulator, xport.  Anyway, i have not put this emu on my xbox yet, i am currently having ftp problems, i was wondering if saving sega cd games was possible using the ingame save option and the instant save states?  I haven't been able to in the past to save a sega cd game state; when i do the game just freezes up on me.  Is there some special trick to save the game states?
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Ill187 on July 24, 2003, 07:50:00 PM
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Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: jizzlobber on July 24, 2003, 08:52:00 PM
QUOTE (XPort @ Jul 25 2003, 03:13 AM)
re Aladdin - Plays perfectly fine here, so I have no way of knowing what you're talking about.  Might be a 50/60 hz issue, though.

This is similar to the prob I had in your older versions of genXport- The music in Sonic CD was too fast. I remember a few of us mentioned this and you attempted to fix it but it didn't work for me.

I'd like to know if the genesis/megadrive handled this 50/60hz stuff in software or hardware? I'm guessing if it's software your emu is forcing the game to run faster then what it should.

Maybe it's an idea to only use US roms?
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: feflicker on July 24, 2003, 09:37:00 PM
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Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Koitsu on July 24, 2003, 10:09:00 PM
QUOTE (Foe-hammer @ Jul 25 2003, 04:38 AM)
Thanks again for another outstanding emulator, xport.  Anyway, i have not put this emu on my xbox yet, i am currently having ftp problems, i was wondering if saving sega cd games was possible using the ingame save option and the instant save states?  I haven't been able to in the past to save a sega cd game state; when i do the game just freezes up on me.  Is there some special trick to save the game states?

nope, sega cd save states are still a no go. i don't think they work in the pc version, so what can ya do..?
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: irajames1176 on July 24, 2003, 10:26:00 PM
uhh.gif but other then that this is one f'ng great emu, thanks again xport biggrin.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Foe-hammer on July 24, 2003, 10:27:00 PM
QUOTE (Koitsu @ Jul 25 2003, 07:09 AM)
nope, sega cd save states are still a no go. i don't think they work in the pc version, so what can ya do..?

Xport, can you confirm this because it is pretty much usless to play an rpg, such as lunar, for the sega cd if saving states are impossible.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: feflicker on July 24, 2003, 10:53:00 PM
Weird.

I patched it from debug to retail w/ dexbe, and it just freezes now. (this happens from time to time with dexbe...) So next I patched it with xbepatch, and dexbe still shows "debug", not "retail"! I need to burn another disc to see if it works, even though it still says "debug" in dexbe.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Carcharius on July 24, 2003, 11:41:00 PM
Foe-hammer

I'll save XPort some time and confirm it for you - the source to Gens does NOT support saving states for Sega CD.

So chances are it'll take an update to the Gens core before this is available in any ports of the emulator, whether it's neoGenesis or Xenesis (incidentally - new version due soon guys!)

That said though - backup ram emulation should be fine so those games that save to backup ram should still save with no troubles at all.

Hope that helps

Carcharius
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: rickster on July 25, 2003, 01:53:00 AM
QUOTE (dafoomie @ Jul 25 2003, 09:28 AM)
It supports segacd games through samba, but does it support regular genesis games through samba?  It doesnt appear to.  Whenever I try to load a regular genesis game through samba, it sends me to the segacd bios.  It seems silly to want to play regular genesis games through samba since theyre only a few megs, but have a large collection and it can quickly add up (400mb).

Make sure the genesis games end in .smd.  If they are .bin files, NeoGensis automatically thinks its a cd.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 25, 2003, 04:43:00 AM
re - save states in CDs.  All of what Carcharius said is true.  Backup RAM is functional which was the "normal" way that real Sega CD systems saved games.  You'll have to use that.

re - controller mapping.  As I've said before, if you have played a game previously with GensXPort, then the old mapping will still be laying around on your hard drive and NeoGenesis will try to read that.  This will *only* happen once (at the most) for each game you've already played in GensXPort.  Once you have set the controller mapping for a game, it will be saved and overwrite the old GensXPort mapping.  If you're really hard-up on this issue, then go to E:\SAVES\NEOGENESIS and delete all the *.KEY files in that directory.  Load up NeoGenesis, go to the Controller Configuration from the main menu, set up some defaults, and that's what will be used until the next time you change it (either from the main menu or from within a game.)

The XBE was already XBEPatch-ed.

It reads ROM games across Samba.  Yes, either rename the files from *.BIN to something else or just ZIP up your ROM files.  



Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: gonkle on July 25, 2003, 05:00:00 AM
is there a way to rename a  whole folder from bin to smd?
tryid some tools ilke ucon but they dont really work.
or can i put them all in one zipped folder?

thx
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 25, 2003, 05:12:00 AM
depending on what version of windows you are using, you can open up a command prompt, "cd" to that directory and do :

ren *.bin *.smd

But try that out on a test directory with 3 or 4 roms before doing the whole thing.

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: baturkin17 on July 25, 2003, 05:27:00 AM
QUOTE (Koitsu @ Jul 25 2003, 12:09 AM)
QUOTE (Foe-hammer @ Jul 25 2003, 04:38 AM)
Thanks again for another outstanding emulator, xport.  Anyway, i have not put this emu on my xbox yet, i am currently having ftp problems, i was wondering if saving sega cd games was possible using the ingame save option and the instant save states?  I haven't been able to in the past to save a sega cd game state; when i do the game just freezes up on me.  Is there some special trick to save the game states?

nope, sega cd save states are still a no go. i don't think they work in the pc version, so what can ya do..?

sega cd save states work in the pc version of GENS.

at least on Sonic CD they do.

maybe he didnt have time to put them in?

anyway, great emu.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: hosh on July 25, 2003, 06:01:00 AM
QUOTE (BLoTt0_AI @ Jul 25 2003, 02:36 PM)
how do you make the iso + mp3 files back into a single iso for burning. My current iso + mp3s no longer work in this version.

You don't have to combine them for burning. Most burning programs that let you assemble your own disc image lets you mix ISO and MP3 tracks. So, you can do it in Nero, for example.

Easiest way is to get/make a .cue file for burning in CDRWin..
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Ufa on July 25, 2003, 06:08:00 AM
and again: w00t
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 25, 2003, 06:12:00 AM
hosh - Yes, when the game asks you to save, it saves it to the Sega CD backup RAM just like on a real Sega CD system.  Just be sure to exit back to the game selection screen before turning off your XBox. SOP.

baturkin - No, save states for Sonic CD do not work on the PC version.  It just *seems* like it works....  If you read the official Gens documentation for the Windows version, you'll see that it clearly states that save states for Sega-CDs do not work.

blotto - Your current ISO, MP3s should work fine.  How are they "not working"  What is the naming convention you are using?  Are you running them across a network?




Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 25, 2003, 06:58:00 AM
Yes, I know what you wrote, but there is no apparent reason why the game should not load the ISO/MP3 files.  If you're not interested in getting your ISO/MP3 files working, then fine.  If you are, then tell me what exactly you are doing and what exactly happens when you do it.  Furthermore, are you running across a network?  If you are playing them across a Relax share, then you'll have to wait about 30 seconds because of the way Gens searches for file names.

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 25, 2003, 07:12:00 AM
Is the BIOS directory correctly in place and are the bios files all in there?

If your neogenesis default.xbe is in, for example,

E:\GAMES\NEOGENESIS\DEFAULT.XBE

then you should have a directory called

E:\GAMES\NEOGENESIS\BIOS

and in that directory there should be a handful of bios files.

Have you also checked to make sure that regular ROM images are playing?

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 25, 2003, 07:46:00 AM
That problem that people mentioned with sound playing too fast in games like Aladdin and Sonic CD is fixed.  This is the result of people running euro/PAL games on an NTSC XBox.  (Or running PAL 50hz SGEN games on a PAL XBox running in PAL60 mode.)

If you don't want to wait for the fix to be released, you can do the following.  If you are experiencing the "fast sound" and you have an NTSC XBox, then get the USA/NTSC version of the game you are trying to play.  If you have a PAL XBox, then put it in PAL50 mode instead of PAL60.



Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 25, 2003, 07:52:00 AM
It hangs on what screen, exactly?  The NeoGenesis "loading" screen or one of the Sega CD "loading" screens?

If it's hanging on the NeoGenesis screen, are you still able to do an in-game-reset or do you have to physically reboot your xbox?

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Koitsu on July 25, 2003, 07:53:00 AM
it really sounds like the bios. maybe you should specify where they are in relationship with the .xbe
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 25, 2003, 08:05:00 AM
QUOTE
I end up at the sega cd default menu, I can then load a game from there.


I don't understand what you mean by this.  Do you mean you press "start" at the SegaCD logo screen?  When you select the CUE or ISO file of the CD game to play, it should first bring up the NeoGenesis loading screen.  Then it should display the SegaCD logo screen from which you can press Start and it will then show the Sega logo with Sonic.  Then it will progress to the game.  Are you saying that from the time you see the NeoGenesis loading screen to the time you see the SegaCD logo screen, it takes *literally* 5-10 minutes?  If so, are you sure you're not trying to load this from a network share?

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: jizzlobber on July 25, 2003, 08:16:00 AM
QUOTE (XPort @ Jul 25 2003, 03:46 PM)
That problem that people mentioned with sound playing too fast in games like Aladdin and Sonic CD is fixed.

Awesome, that's just what I wanted to hear.
thanks Xport  cool.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 25, 2003, 08:44:00 AM
So the other game you tried did play?  Or you just got another kind of menu and nothing else?

BTW - what are the names of these games?

Have you also tried toggling the CD-method (Perfect Synchro/Normal) on the configuration screen for each of these games?

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Koitsu on July 25, 2003, 09:04:00 AM
are you one of those guys that has 3 billion roms in your directory? if that's the case, it may take forever for the emu to find all of the mp3's that need to follow the iso. try putting the iso of your sega cd in its' own folder with its' respective mp3's.

/genroms/SONIC CD/sonic.iso
/genroms/SONIC CD/sonic02.mp3

etc. this'll shorten loading time by days. if that's the case...
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Foe-hammer on July 25, 2003, 09:24:00 AM
QUOTE (XPort @ Jul 25 2003, 01:43 PM)
re - save states in CDs.  All of what Carcharius said is true.  Backup RAM is functional which was the "normal" way that real Sega CD systems saved games.  You'll have to use that.

Ok........sorry for my incompitance, but how do i do that; how do i use the segacd back up RAM on my xbox? huh.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 25, 2003, 10:29:00 AM
koitsu - thanks.

foehammer - You don't need to worry about it- it's all handled internally.  (Just exit back to the game-select menu when you're done playing.)

Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: darckinter on July 25, 2003, 11:51:00 AM
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Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: feflicker on July 25, 2003, 12:43:00 PM
QUOTE
The XBE was already XBEPatch-ed.


Hmm.. Wonder why dexbe is reporting it as "debug" then... Probably a bug in dexbe. (wouldn't surprise me).

The weird thing is that the xbe's for fceux and xboyadvance show correctly. (usually xbe's from the same developer are consistent...) Like I said, must be dexbe! Is there any other tool you can use to just "check" the retail/debug status?
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Predalex on July 25, 2003, 04:01:00 PM
Xport you are a @#$%ing God, and I want to bare your children.

One thing though, aren't you sick as shit listening to your peons complaining about one simple thing from one @#$%ing rom they plan to play for only 5 minutes? This doesn't work, that has a glitch, those are slow.

I mean @#$%ing come off it, leave this man alone to port more shit for us to enjoy!

P.S. I am havin problems with this game called . . . hehe JK
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Koitsu on July 25, 2003, 05:50:00 PM
Thud: the save states are all good. i'm pretty flaky about which emu i use at any given time, so i bounce back and forth. the save states for genesis are called something like

sonic2.gs1

which will have to be renamed to

sonic2.st1.

small problem is that xenesis starts its saves at gs"0", and Neogenesis starts them at st"1". any "0" save states will obviously have to be given a different number.

also if anyone cares, the sega cd bram saves work too, but you'll almost always need to change the name of the game instead of the .brm extension.

Neogenesis will use whatever name you call you sega cd iso.

Sonic CD.iso will be Sonic CD.brm

but for Xenesis

Sonic CD.iso will be SONIC THE HEDGEHOG CD.brm

just change the name to whatever the emu needs.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Koitsu on July 25, 2003, 06:02:00 PM
QUOTE (Predalex @ Jul 26 2003, 01:01 AM)
Xport you are a @#$%ing God, and I want to bare your children.

One thing though, aren't you sick as shit listening to your peons complaining about one simple thing from one @#$%ing rom they plan to play for only 5 minutes? This doesn't work, that has a glitch, those are slow.

I mean @#$%ing come off it, leave this man alone to port more shit for us to enjoy!

one man's trash is another man's treasure. i for one, have played battlemaster for 30 "@#$%"king hours, while no one i've ever met has heard of it. i would be VERY unhappy if it didn't work here.

whining and bug testing are two different things. it's up to any coder to decide whether or not to fix something, and it's certainly exhausting as "@#$%," but this not only improves their emu, it enhances the praise they recieve one "peon" at a time. outside of the original PC issues that people keep bringing up, if a game's problem can be fixed, i'd say they would want to fix it.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Koitsu on July 25, 2003, 06:16:00 PM
QUOTE (Foe-hammer @ Jul 25 2003, 06:24 PM)
Ok........sorry for my incompitance, but how do i do that; how do i use the segacd back up RAM on my xbox? huh.gif

most of them are easy to save. just save the way the game would on the original sega cd.

but since every game has its own backup file and save cartridge (if you want to use that), you might have to format your "battery backup" before you can play a game.

sonic cd demands that you format your backup device before you can actually play. so when you load your "SonicCD.iso" or whatever, when it goes to the sega cd screen and says "press the start button," press (THE EMULATOR'S) A button. you can format the sega cd's battery backup and the catridge backup there, if necessary.

of course, be sure you exit the sega cd game back to the neogenesis menu before you shut off your xbox. otherwise it won't save anything.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Predalex on July 25, 2003, 08:26:00 PM
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Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Predalex on July 25, 2003, 08:38:00 PM
QUOTE (Koitsu @ Jul 26 2003, 03:02 AM)
one man's trash is another man's treasure. i for one, have played battlemaster for 30 "@#$%"king hours, while no one i've ever met has heard of it. i would be VERY unhappy if it didn't work here.

I understand what you mean now, I mean if Dodge decided to give me a free Viper I would be VERY unhappy if it did not come with black alloy wheels.

QA testing is well and good, but posts lik;

Hey Xport When can you do this

or

I cannot read a @#$%ing NFO file so xport tell me how to get back to the @#%$ing menu

or even better

WOW you ported so much good shit, now I NEED you to port SPECTRUM, SEGA SATURN, and an emulator of my mothers right hand spanking my ass, and I want it today.


Those kindo posts jus get on my 2 am in da morning nerve.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: irajames1176 on July 26, 2003, 03:51:00 AM
QUOTE (Predalex @ Jul 25 2003, 09:38 PM)
and an emulator of my mothers right hand spanking my ass, and I want it today

 unsure.gif
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on July 26, 2003, 06:30:00 PM
Ummm i have tried to get Sega CD games to work but after the Sega CD start screen it always goes to a screen that says somthing to the effect of "Backup RAM not initialized" or something like that.

How do i fix this??
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: XPort on July 26, 2003, 06:41:00 PM
You have to press A ( or some other sgen button) at the CD "press start" menu to bring up a secondary menu where you can initialize your BRAM.  This is the same thing you would do on a real Sega CD system.



Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: pelago on July 27, 2003, 02:53:00 AM
I guess the problem is that a lot of people using the emulator don't have a real Sega CD and games (although of course you are supposed to!) so don't know some of the more obscure quirks.
Title: Neogenesis V1
Post by: BigGanja on July 29, 2003, 11:39:00 AM
LoL Easy i sussed out THAT prob straight away LoL

run the JAP bios when booting the rom and at the SEGA CD screen goto options to get access to the menu where u can enable it , i think its ONLY in the jap bios tho' NOT SURE !!


Anyways
peace