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Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Telemachus on June 22, 2003, 06:37:00 PM
UltraHLE mentions the following know bugs in Zeda, along with the solutions on the PC version.  I am only about 4-5 hours into the game now, and loving it.  However, I don't look forward to running into any of these.  The first two are manageable (the second one manifesting itself quite often), but three and four look like they will be major pains if I get to the end of the game and can't beat it.  I don't believe the patches would work on UltraXLE, either.

Thought I would post them in case anyone wants to know about them.  Also, has anyone had enough free time yet to actually BEAT zelda on the XBOX?

Let us know if these probs exist, please.

Q. What is wrong with the "Lens of Truth"? It doesn't work.
A. This is another bug people ask about. Things that are supposed to appear do but things that are supposed to disappear don't. Walls, for example, do not disappear when they should. To find what you need, use the walkthru for Zelda. This bug can be a big problem when there are holes in the floor and you cannot see them. Therefore, save often and if you fall through, just restart from your savestate. Also got this great tip. Use wireframe mode to show the invisible objects. To enable wireframe mode, press Ctrl-W.

Q. Why is it when I enter buildings, the screen goes black and I cannot resume gameplay?
A. I have heard of this many times but have not experienced it myself so cannot offer a solution. It could be caused by a corrupt rom? Check with rtool. Solution will be posted if found.

Q. I cannot finish the game because I am blocked by bars. What can I do?
A. Luckily this can be fixed too. After beating Ganon, Zelda walks through a door that has bars. However, you are blocked by these bars and time is running out. To get past this bug, open the ultra.ini file and enable the "Infinite Time 'End Game Time Sequence'" patch. Then jump off the cliff and go back and the bars should be gone. If you do not know how to enable cheats, then check out the
How To's section.

Q. I finished the game but when watching the ending, the game freezes. In the debug output window of UltraHLE it says "error(800CF95C): dlist: display list too large (20002 commands)". How can I watch the entire ending?
A. This bug prevents you from seeing the entire ending of Zelda. Someone had hacked UltraHLE and made a patched UltraHLE awhile ago but I only learned of it recently after recieving an email. To use it, simply unzip and put in your UltraHLE directory. Then open it and load the zelda rom and your savestate. Now you can watch the entire ending.
Download the hacked UltraHLE for Zelda here! (-166k-)
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Corn-O-lio on June 22, 2003, 08:10:00 PM
i haven't seen any of those bug's on the Xbox version. the only one i have is that it keeps freezing while playing
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Telemachus on June 22, 2003, 10:05:00 PM
Well, I don't have the lens yet, so I don't know.  The third and fourth one mentioned are at the END of the game, so if you haven't gotten there yet, you wouldn't know.

I guess I will find out when I get there!
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: oDD_ on June 23, 2003, 03:57:00 AM
Hey Guys,

I've fixed all the above bugs except for one, the lens of truth bug. If someone has the time, could they please send me a save state just before the lens of truth (via icq: 6446836 or post it on their personal site)? It would be greatly appreciated as I simply don't have time to play the game through myself. sad.gif Its most likely a simple blending issue and will be fixed in the next release.

Thanks smile.gif

oDD
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: TwisTz on June 23, 2003, 04:03:00 AM
QUOTE (oDD_ @ Jun 23 2003, 12:57 PM)
Hey Guys,

I've fixed all the above bugs except for one, the lens of truth bug. If someone has the time, could they please send me a save state just before the lens of truth (via icq: 6446836 or post it on their personal site)? It would be greatly appreciated as I simply don't have time to play the game through myself. sad.gif Its most likely a simple blending issue and will be fixed in the next release.

Thanks smile.gif

oDD

you own oDD!  laugh.gif
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: c-2 on June 23, 2003, 04:55:00 AM
weee oDD u kick ass!! thanx d00d! :]
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: desertboy on June 23, 2003, 06:09:00 AM
QUOTE (oDD_ @ Jun 23 2003, 12:57 PM)
Hey Guys,

I've fixed all the above bugs except for one, the lens of truth bug. If someone has the time, could they please send me a save state just before the lens of truth (via icq: 6446836 or post it on their personal site)? It would be greatly appreciated as I simply don't have time to play the game through myself. sad.gif Its most likely a simple blending issue and will be fixed in the next release.

Thanks smile.gif

oDD

Are these bugs fixed in an upcoming version or already working, I've read a lot of posts saying Zelda crashes on entering or leaving buildings. So I thought I'd leave it for now, played Zelda on ultrahle when it was first released and it crashed horribly on me 3/4 of the way through. Couldn't get past the ice kingdom, led me to buy an N64 and Zelda but I've never finished it and don't want to invest the time again if I'm going to get stuck.

If I was happy with the stability I'd definitly give it another go.


ODD you're port reminded me of seeing zelda for the first time on my voodoo2 at 1024*768 I was stunned.
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: mongoosedm on June 23, 2003, 09:45:00 AM
QUOTE (oDD_ @ Jun 23 2003, 12:57 PM)
I've fixed all the above bugs except for one, the lens of truth bug. If someone has the time, could they please send me a save state just before the lens of truth (via icq: 6446836 or post it on their personal site)?
oDD

Here you go.  Reply when you've gotten it so I can take it down.

edit: link removed
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Telemachus on June 24, 2003, 09:24:00 AM
Apparently, the puzzle in the forrest is not really a bug, just annoying to beat.

Let us know if you have any tips.
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Tobias Redfield on June 24, 2003, 10:56:00 AM
Does anyone know if the Master quest will work on it?
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: johnney5 on June 24, 2003, 12:16:00 PM
tongue.gif Thanks for the emulator! Heh, so, does this new version you are compiling, will it fix the crashing problem? Or is that unavoidable? (Im talkign about the way that the rom freezes up randomly) ty

-j5
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: EvilRabidPenguin on June 24, 2003, 02:15:00 PM
I can't get Zelda to load. All i get is a black screen and nothinbg else after selectin the rom. Can somebody help me?
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: oDD_ on June 25, 2003, 01:29:00 AM
QUOTE (mongoosedm @ Jun 23 2003, 06:45 PM)
QUOTE (oDD_ @ Jun 23 2003, 12:57 PM)
I've fixed all the above bugs except for one, the lens of truth bug. If someone has the time, could they please send me a save state just before the lens of truth (via icq: 6446836 or post it on their personal site)?
oDD

Here you go.  Reply when you've gotten it so I can take it down.

Champion! Thankyou very much smile.gif You can take it down now.

Thanks again,

oDD
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: HeLiuM on June 25, 2003, 07:30:00 AM
QUOTE (Flomast3RRR @ Jun 25 2003, 02:28 PM)
oDD you rule! Can you plz make Smash Brothers playable in the next release? and Harvest Moon too? Plz? smile.gif

give the guy a break  blink.gif
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: mace on June 25, 2003, 09:03:00 AM
Here's another bug you should look into, the forest temple picture puzzle.
I have put the picture together tons of times, yet the puzzle doesn't seem to complete to where the poe comes out.
I don't know why this happens, gfx error or rom emulation error maybe?
anyway I posted this problem here before, http://forums.xbox-s...ST&f=17&t=68547.
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Krazor on June 25, 2003, 12:05:00 PM
I beat the picture puzzle after a bit.. Just a pain really.  Also, I thought all the bosses gave a piece of the heart when you beat em.. I was thinking maybe I'm wrong. lol.. So, I beat the dragon and I ran into a heart i never saw! There's a real problem heh.. Can I go back to previous boss areas and get all the ones I missed?
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: pelago on June 25, 2003, 12:22:00 PM
Yeah all bosses give a full heart container (ie, 4 pieces of heart), and I'm afraid if you miss one you can't go back and find it.

pelago
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Krazor on June 25, 2003, 02:38:00 PM
The parasite queen thing? Yeah, that's a boss.
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Iriez on June 25, 2003, 04:05:00 PM
QUOTE (Flomast3RRR @ Jun 25 2003, 07:28 AM)
oDD you rule! Can you plz make Smash Brothers playable in the next release? and Harvest Moon too? Plz? smile.gif

Did you even read the UltraHLE compatibilty thread? Super smash Bro's and harvest moon are not even supported in UltraHLE (you know, the original emulator that he ported?)

You cant expect someone to just take someone elses work and fix it so you can play *favorite rom here* at your lesuire.
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Corn-O-lio on June 25, 2003, 07:46:00 PM
biggrin.gif
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Telemachus on July 23, 2003, 09:00:00 AM
QUOTE (pelago @ Jun 25 2003, 09:22 PM)
Yeah all bosses give a full heart container (ie, 4 pieces of heart), and I'm afraid if you miss one you can't go back and find it.

pelago

That is funny... I didn't realize that they gave hearts until I beat the Dragon, too...

Maybe if we go back and beat them, we can get them!
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: woo on July 23, 2003, 09:04:00 AM
What would be useful, would be the ability to switch on wireframe mode.  This is the only way around certain issues at the moment, including the underwater sequences in Banjo Kazooie.
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Telemachus on August 08, 2003, 07:51:00 PM
It turns out you CAN go back and pick up the heart containers.  I have gone back to each temple and picked them up.

Has anyone found a way to export the saves from Ultra XLE to UltraHLE, so that this game can be beat?  If so, what version of HLE do you use?

I hacve tried it, and it won't load the saves.
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: ZASADAR on August 08, 2003, 10:02:00 PM
there should be a ultraxle post here      or is there?
is there any way i can get zelda 2 or master quest working?
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Corn-O-lio on August 09, 2003, 08:08:00 AM
no you can't
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: pelago on August 10, 2003, 03:14:00 AM
QUOTE (Telemachus @ Aug 9 2003, 04:51 AM)
It turns out you CAN go back and pick up the heart containers.  I have gone back to each temple and picked them up.

Can you really? In that case, I apologise for saying you couldn't earlier.
Title: Known Zelda Bugs With Ultrahle
Post by: Telemachus on August 12, 2003, 09:26:00 PM
QUOTE (pelago @ Aug 10 2003, 12:14 PM)
QUOTE (Telemachus @ Aug 9 2003, 04:51 AM)
It turns out you CAN go back and pick up the heart containers.  I have gone back to each temple and picked them up.

Can you really? In that case, I apologise for saying you couldn't earlier.

Yea, you sure can.  I also imported the savegames over to UltraHLE Alpha 1.16 on the PC, so that I can actually finish the game (without it always locking).  It works great!