Post by: XmarksTheSpizot on June 17, 2003, 03:56:00 AM
TESTING MORE NOW
Post by: bucket61 on June 17, 2003, 03:57:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on June 17, 2003, 04:01:00 AM
| QUOTE (XmarksTheSpizot @ Jun 17 2003, 05:56 AM) |
| MARIO KART PLAYS MUCH BETTER. |
Just about perfect from the playing i did ; )
Also, on a side note...
With Rice 5.0.0 there are some bugs that were not in 4, such as transparency issues (menu txt box in mario 64) and invisible menu's and game stats (fzero-x and some others) ...In order to fix the invisible menu's do a quick save state (back and black) and load it...and it fixes the problem.
Enjoy.
Also, read the main xbox scene news page about the contest details. YES, its offiically over.
My understanding of the donation situation is that he is going to give Rice a nice donation ; ) (aswell as www.emulation64.com as jabo has requested). This will allow him to buy a new high end graphics card as he has a low end one. This will help him create better plugins to work with the xbox's high end GPU. Rice's plugin is progressing so fast that it will outshine jabo's within a few months if he keeps at it ; )
So i would just like to say in my personal opinion that this contest has not only gotten everyone a open source emulator that allows you to play some n64 games on the xbox, but it will also help the N64 emu scene in general, which will in the end give you guys *much* better beta's to play with ; )
Keep in mind the author is going to be hard at work trying to implement VMM and has NOT discontinued the project.
Please dont whine/moan/bitch ....constructive criticism is the way to go.
Post by: kvajnto on June 17, 2003, 04:19:00 AM
Post by: chevi on June 17, 2003, 04:19:00 AM
Post by: Jse on June 17, 2003, 04:23:00 AM
anonomous
Post by: Iriez on June 17, 2003, 04:25:00 AM
| QUOTE (XmarksTheSpizot @ Jun 17 2003, 06:16 AM) |
| Playing with the RDB settings is helping with the stuttering somewhat. Overall this release should satisfy alot more people. Outstanding work. |
As a side note, because i havnt seen it mentioned anywhere...
The most optimal way to increase the NormalCompileBufferSize= is by increments of 65536.
Just thought i would throw that out there for people that want to play with the rdb =)
If something plays slow/sluttery, add a NormalCompileBufferSize entry if it doesnt exist, with a number from another entry (to play with) and if it crashes, reduce the number until it doesnt ; )
Should help with some gameplay. Most of the big titles are optimized already though.
Post by: oDD_ on June 17, 2003, 04:26:00 AM
Post by: Iriez on June 17, 2003, 04:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (oDD_ @ Jun 17 2003, 06:26 AM) |
| Iriez why is the contest over? Has the 32mb goal been met yet? |
Read the main page as i said and you will see that i stated that a few 32mb roms play with full textures and all the other requirements to be met for goal 3.
It would be great if no one would bitch. You are all going to get great beta's in the future, since he is going to continue the project. Criteria has been met.
Goodday.
Post by: desertboy on June 17, 2003, 04:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (oDD_ @ Jun 17 2003, 01:26 PM) |
| Iriez why is the contest over? Has the 32mb goal been met yet? |
The contest is over simply because there isn't another emulator coming. You can pretend that Hikaru's going to release daedalus port with virtual memory and perfect sound but I think the fact that he's making that new dash is a sign that maybe it was more effort than he really was willing to put in.
I think this is ideal, the prize money being split up decently and honourably.
Iriez I'd say the contest was a complete success.
Was going to donate but I think I'll just send my cash to emulation64.com
This cash has done a lot of good for the emu scene and anyone who bitches should really just not touch PJ64-X and keep quiet. If you donated and feel cheated then you are a fool what did you expect an N64 for $10 not going to happen.
You certainly won't see team executer asking for their cash back.
Post by: freakdave on June 17, 2003, 04:55:00 AM
keep up the awesome work !
mario kart and banjo kazooie are looking and playin` much better now !
Post by: freakdave on June 17, 2003, 05:05:00 AM
my version runs faster (US)
ah,i forgot :
diddy kong racing is now playable !
only menu gfx is messed up,but ingame gfx and sound is awesome ! :-))
Post by: Heet on June 17, 2003, 05:10:00 AM
Post by: Nathan561 on June 17, 2003, 05:14:00 AM
I saw you were annoyed by the negative responses.. you're gonna get that anywhere anytime, for anything! So just tune it out and tune into all the people extremely happy by your releases. You have accomplished more than i thought would ever be possible.
Good Job!
Post by: Heet on June 17, 2003, 05:20:00 AM
Post by: Heet on June 17, 2003, 05:23:00 AM
*v5 32meg optimized...
Post by: Jse on June 17, 2003, 05:38:00 AM
(showed jap charaters on us rom)
anyway entered a name clicked it it booted into the game and crashed their after but still was kewl to get that far
Post by: derf on June 17, 2003, 05:52:00 AM
Thanks
Post by: jizzlobber on June 17, 2003, 06:45:00 AM
looks like Yoshi's story still doesn't work
Post by: skierdb526 on June 17, 2003, 07:09:00 AM
Post by: XDelusion on June 17, 2003, 07:11:00 AM
One thing that would REALLY improve this emu, is to dump using the XBOX B button, and use X instead, B is just strange feeling, and you can't hold it down while tapping A for Platform games! Of course building button config into the menu would be great too as there are also times I'd like to swap the C buttons to the right analog, and vice versa for FPS' such as Forsaken.
THankx again, very exciting times!
Post by: dataprep on June 17, 2003, 08:11:00 AM
It never work for me in the first version.
Big Big Thanks to the Author(s)
Post by: explicitlyrics100 on June 17, 2003, 08:26:00 AM
Post by: MeLv on June 17, 2003, 08:48:00 AM
Post by: Booger Bob on June 17, 2003, 09:27:00 AM
Seems like a conflict of intrest that Iriez beta tested it and had now declared its over
Post by: unisom on June 17, 2003, 09:27:00 AM
Post by: desertboy on June 17, 2003, 09:28:00 AM
| QUOTE (Booger Bob @ Jun 17 2003, 06:27 PM) |
| Anyone know how this emulator had met goals 1 and 2 when there are a ton of 16MB games it dosent play like bond Seems like a conflict of intrest that Iriez beta tested it and had now declared its over |
What did you expect, never wrote a piece of code before have you?
Unison the source isn't available for 5.0.1
Post by: gainpresence on June 17, 2003, 09:47:00 AM
| QUOTE (Booger Bob @ Jun 17 2003, 12:27 PM) |
| Anyone know how this emulator had met goals 1 and 2 when there are a ton of 16MB games it dosent play like bond Seems like a conflict of intrest that Iriez beta tested it and had now declared its over |
I guess you haven't read the guidelines?
It only has to play ONE 8MB cart, ONE 16MB cart, and ONE 32MB cart.. That's it, contest over.
If the porter wants to work on optimizing others, then he can.. But he certainly doesn't have to do anything.
Post by: OUberLord on June 17, 2003, 10:02:00 AM
If im not mistaken, the project is open source, where/when are the 0.70 sources going to be released? Once those are released it would be a trivial matter to remap buttons and create a deadzone.
Post by: chilin_dude on June 17, 2003, 10:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (OUberLord @ Jun 17 2003, 07:02 PM) |
| The emu would be way better if the controller sticks had a deadzone, as it stands now I cannot play it at all since my controllers are fairly old. So far, this is the only app/game that hasnt had a deadzone setting. If im not mistaken, the project is open source, where/when are the 0.70 sources going to be released? Once those are released it would be a trivial matter to remap buttons and create a deadzone. |
OK i don't know what a deadzone is but i know the source is on #xbins!
Post by: desertboy on June 17, 2003, 10:07:00 AM
It's a huge improvement, still not a patch on the pc version but it's getting there some games I played are perfect but more importantly a lot more of them work which they didn't before.
What I did which most of you didn't was play around wiith Rice's plugins and PJ64 before hand to so I knew what to expect and I can tell you Rice's 5.0.1 is a huge improvement again. When Rice open sources it we'll all be in for a treat.
Maybe we should all chip in & buy Rice a chipped xbox.
Post by: full on June 17, 2003, 10:17:00 AM
pokemon stadium: didn't load.
same thing with roadsters trophy
super smash brothers: loaded but i couldnt get further from the menu..
wipeout64: menu gfx were shitty(couldnt read any text) but the gameplay was 100%
star wars pod racer... loaded.. menu was very buggy.. game started and was very playable(minor gfx bugs)
zelda oot: yep it loads.. intro is awesome.. but hangs when it gets where link sleeps.. =(
Post by: katolo on June 17, 2003, 10:20:00 AM
Post by: OUberLord on June 17, 2003, 10:23:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| OK i don't know what a deadzone is but i know the source is on #xbins! |
Thats the source for v0.60.
You know how when you have an older controller, sometimes the game will think you are pressing the stick when you are not? A deadzone is the minimum amount of movement needed before an action is taken, which helps prevent that.
In the 0.60 sources a deadzone was defined and seemed to actually work, controls worked fine. With 0.70, whatever deadzone was there is now gone, so the only way I am going to be able to use the emu at all is if I go out and buy a new controller.
That aside, the author should have included the L+R+Z+Start fix like on the actual N64, which many (If not all) PC emulators support, the PC version of PJ64 included. Why the author of PJ64X would disable/remove this I do not know.
Just wanted to leave a footnote here though, though the issue I described and the fact that N64 B is mapped to Xbox B (eh?) the work is very nice overall, but it is just annoying to me when something so close to perfect is marred by easily fixable things.
Post by: Methius on June 17, 2003, 11:13:00 AM
Dl it, launch it, love it.......
(too bad it doesn't run Super Smash Bros
, heck I'll patiently wait for the nxt release !)Aside from that,
.M out
Post by: chilin_dude on June 17, 2003, 11:21:00 AM
Post by: feflicker on June 17, 2003, 12:03:00 PM
Post by: Generallee02 on June 17, 2003, 12:41:00 PM
Post by: niszhe on June 17, 2003, 12:43:00 PM
Post by: freakdave on June 17, 2003, 12:53:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| too bad it doesn't run Super Smash Bros , heck I'll patiently wait for the nxt release !) |
sometimes it does work!
started smash bros. about 30 times,4 times it played well,but that´s not 100% :-(
Post by: c-2 on June 17, 2003, 01:00:00 PM
Post by: Generallee02 on June 17, 2003, 01:02:00 PM
Also, i see the controls are fixed, meaning how in version 6, the control would be like a little to the left in default position so guy would move when not pressing anything. At least for me. That seems fixed.
Post by: fezzman on June 17, 2003, 01:09:00 PM
Also, do game saves work? How are they accessed?
Thanks
Post by: dmb062082 on June 17, 2003, 02:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (c-2 @ Jun 17 2003, 10:00 PM) |
| oh and being able to jump in mario kart kix ass! |
j00 can jump in mario kart? aWeSoMe. i still cant upload to my fucking xbox waiting for my evox boot dvd to come in the mail and i will test this emu and leave my feedback. Peace.
Post by: debeautar on June 17, 2003, 02:24:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| i'm not a huge fan of the right stick being used as a button (makes doing barrel roles in SF kinda weird ) |
I don't know how you missed the ability to do barrel rolls with the Z button (as that's how I was doing it on .60, before I had the R trigger)... but, I guess that means you never really played StarFox64 on an N64, eh? Either that, or your memory is not what it should be.
| QUOTE |
| maybe in the future we can map our own keys .. but if not oh well this kix ass!! :] thanx alot |
Yeah, I have to say that that's one feature I'm waiting for, as I have the big Xbox old-school controller, and therefore have the perfect button layout to re-emulate the control scheme on the N64 controller... so difficult to play Starfox, and have to hit Stick-left to be able to boost. Feels unnatural. Other than that, I am most pleased with what I have, and I thank the coder/author for all of his hard work.
Deb out.
Post by: Vegeta on June 17, 2003, 02:31:00 PM
Post by: corkinator on June 17, 2003, 02:48:00 PM
Keep up the great work!!
Post by: guile on June 17, 2003, 03:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (full @ Jun 17 2003, 07:17 PM) |
| Wow..Mario64 now plays 100% for me.. in mario tennis the graphics are almost perfect but it is a little slow.. =)) pokemon stadium: didn't load. same thing with roadsters trophy super smash brothers: loaded but i couldnt get further from the menu.. wipeout64: menu gfx were shitty(couldnt read any text) but the gameplay was 100% star wars pod racer... loaded.. menu was very buggy.. game started and was very playable(minor gfx bugs) zelda oot: yep it loads.. intro is awesome.. but hangs when it gets where link sleeps.. =( |
PLEASE tell me which version of Wipeout you were running? That is one of the games I REALLY want....BAD!! Thanx!!
g
Post by: Beelzebud on June 17, 2003, 03:25:00 PM
Well done anon. I'm looking foward to seeing more things from you. I can't believe how many improvements were in this version. Simply great.
Thank you.
Post by: buckwilliamsca on June 17, 2003, 03:25:00 PM
Post by: Spike Spiegel on June 17, 2003, 03:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (JLB2k2 @ Jun 17 2003, 11:24 PM) |
| YAY! Blast Corps works! |
Sweet! how well? Blast Corps was great.. I have decided, I'm going to get this new one for sure tonight!
Spike
Post by: Stryfe01 on June 17, 2003, 03:48:00 PM
great work!
Post by: desertboy on June 17, 2003, 03:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (Spike Spiegel @ Jun 18 2003, 12:37 AM) |
| I know I'm not supposed to ask, but with a wink and a tip of the hat, might someone tell me where the usual places are to obtain some of the games that work with this? Spike |
Kazaaaaaaaaaaa
only place for roms withouth actually looking in any way
find IRC has a few complete rom sets as well as best ones!
I use a D64 instead coupled with orgi's
Post by: d3tr0it on June 17, 2003, 03:58:00 PM
But what I wonder is that if there is any posibility to get the glNintendo64() plugin ported to the xbox.
I just tried it out on a few games with PJ64 for windows and I really liked the visual quality! Zelda looked real good, even better than with Jabos plugins.. And it ran very well to.
Well the source is availible if you wanted to know @
http://www.emutalk.n....php?forumid=69
And again thanks for the great amount of job you must have put into the project
// d3tr0it
Post by: pablo0024 on June 17, 2003, 04:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (d3tr0it @ Jun 18 2003, 12:58 AM) |
| First of all I want to thank the author for all his work on the emulator. But what I wonder is that if there is any posibility to get the glNintendo64() plugin ported to the xbox. I just tried it out on a few games with PJ64 for windows and I really liked the visual quality! Zelda looked real good, even better than with Jabos plugins.. And it ran very well to. Well the source is availible if you wanted to know @ http://www.emutalk.n....php?forumid=69 And again thanks for the great amount of job you must have put into the project // d3tr0it |
GOD DAMN IT
glide nintendo is for 3dfx cards
the xbox has an nvidia geforce cards
Post by: slappynutz on June 17, 2003, 04:09:00 PM
Also the L-Trigger = Z Button is most appreciated. Was playing Mischief Makers and noticed that the button config is a bit difficult, but the game plays great.
Post by: Drew-Dub on June 17, 2003, 04:10:00 PM
Post by: gainpresence on June 17, 2003, 04:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (d3tr0it @ Jun 17 2003, 07:26 PM) |
It should work with any OpenGL 1.4 compatible video card (not extensively tested yet), although a GeForce is recommended because of it's advanced blending abilities. |
OpenGL != DirectX
Post by: d3tr0it on June 17, 2003, 04:43:00 PM
Well i was just wondering..
// d3tr0it
Post by: ps2moduk on June 17, 2003, 05:04:00 PM
Post by: nothingman20 on June 17, 2003, 05:14:00 PM
I love computers, technology and programming because there isn't a single day that goes by without being impressed at what some people can accomplished.
Today your program was that new thing which made me say "Wow"!
nothingman
Post by: Zero on June 17, 2003, 05:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (Generallee02 @ Jun 17 2003, 08:41 PM) |
| It's great, i just wish they'd put in a reset button to go back to the dashboard. Tired of always shutting system off when i want to play something else on the xbox. the combo L,R, start and select don't work for this Emu. |
L + R + Black.
Post by: JLB2k2 on June 17, 2003, 07:46:00 PM
| QUOTE (Dante_Ali @ Jun 18 2003, 02:48 AM) | ||
The US version seemed to run fine, apart from the corrupted menus. In fact, in 2 player mode it was a little bit too fast. As for Blast Corps.. yeah it works, very laggy though with Rice 5.0 - as well as all the other Rare games. Must have something to do with the microcode Rare were using on all their games. |
Yeah and there is some problem trying to move around, it just won't go where you want weird. The sound is kinda screwed but I was just happy that I got to play it. One of the best games for N64.
Post by: Iriez on June 17, 2003, 08:55:00 PM
Yes, this uses rices latest 5.0.1 plugin.
It plays super smash brothers *every time* for me. make sure you have a (U) [!] rom. It plays alright aside for a few stutters in gameplay and messed up menu's.
Regarding the contest...
In accordance to all legal aspects, the pot will go to pj64-x. Yes, i know UltraXLE plays zelda. Unfortunately the author of UltraXLE didnt beat pj64-x. First come first serve. The UltraXLE author has said that he is happy that the PJ64-X author recieved the funds, and that he is being very charitible with it.
What 32mb roms play?
Rayman 2 and Road Rash 64 are two off the top of my head.
Keep in mind that UltraXLE has a very small compatibility listing. Mario kart,Mario 64, zelda OOT, and goldeneye are the only big titles that play with it.
The author ported it specifically for those. Im very happy that he did. I also spoke with him briefly with an idea..
Making it so that you can rename the ultraxle.xbe to PJ64-daed.xbe and launch it in PJ64-X ...that way you can use a single emulator with higher compatibilty. Or vice versa if the UltraXLE author feels like creating a new UI that can launch PJ64-X xbe's. Either way we will work something out for the end users =)
Post by: jizzlobber on June 17, 2003, 09:55:00 PM
I don't want to bring this up AGAIN but I just want to say I feel embarrased by the whinging that's going on... i'm a part of this scene, I love it but i'm amoungs a heap of ungreatful morons, I'm personally extreamely greatful to everyone involved in EVERY release even if I don't need it... and i'm sure most others feel the same way.
it's just unfortunate the attitude of the rest can bring us all down.
there's thousands of people patting you guys on the back though, huge thanks mate
Post by: feflicker on June 17, 2003, 10:18:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Making it so that you can rename the ultraxle.xbe to PJ64-daed.xbe and launch it in PJ64-X ...that way you can use a single emulator with higher compatibilty. Or vice versa if the UltraXLE author feels like creating a new UI that can launch PJ64-X xbe's. Either way we will work something out for the end users =) |
Glad to see you working together... Everyone jumped the gun in assuming both :camps: were trying to out-do each other, eh? I am sure both of these emu's are only gonna get better!
Post by: tom_g05 on June 17, 2003, 10:28:00 PM
. I'm one happy guy. Great release can't wait for more. IREZ Keep us updated on this EMU .
Post by: YYN on June 18, 2003, 12:54:00 AM
THX!!!!