Post by: dmb062082 on June 09, 2003, 12:11:00 AM
Post by: Omizzay on June 09, 2003, 02:14:00 AM
| QUOTE (Drewus @ Jun 9 2003, 09:22 AM) |
| SNES emulation at the moment is incredibly slow and incompatible, and as for GBA emulation, it will NEVER happen with decent speed or compatibility. The GBA uses it's own video and sound hardware, something which the GP32 lacks. And to emulate both of these chips it would require more than a 133mhz cpu to do it. |
SnesEmu pretty much runs at full speed but without any sound. Although it doesn't run some games, it's fine for most of them. Only problem is that you can't save. The other snes emulator (snes9x) has sound and save support, but runs very slowly. I'm pretty sure that a decent upgrade will come out soon enough.
As for the GBA emulator, I don't think it's very easy or possible to get full speed and sound. But there are some very talented gp32 programmers working on it, so here's hoping.
Xport - you want a new challenge?
Anyway, thanks for clearing up the other points.
Post by: mattias800 on June 09, 2003, 03:25:00 AM
The GBA uses it's own video and sound hardware, something which the GP32 lacks. And to emulate both of these chips it would require more than a 133mhz cpu to do it."
actually the gba doesn't have any sound hardware at all (other than the dac and the gbc-chip).
the gfx hardware isn't much more advanced than the snes counterpart.
the cpu is a problem however, since its a 16mhz cpu (and not 14 as someone said). if they have problem emulating the snes which runs at 3.something mhz, then 16 mhz will be alot more difficult. far from impossible though.
the big problem is the lack of memory. there are alot of 4mb gba roms, but there are alot more 8, 16 and 32mb roms.
Post by: Omizzay on June 09, 2003, 12:59:00 PM
Thanx.
Post by: MikeHolliday on June 09, 2003, 01:18:00 PM
So why would i pay more for a system that can play less games? emulators clearly are un-playable without sound except for ancient ones like atari, which you can run on a gba anyways. I'm sorry but this looks like a horrible system.
Post by: desertboy on June 09, 2003, 01:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (MikeHolliday @ Jun 9 2003, 10:18 PM) |
| Also, the six buttons include start and select, so really it has the same number of buttons as GBA. So why would i pay more for a system that can play less games? emulators clearly are un-playable without sound except for ancient ones like atari, which you can run on a gba anyways. I'm sorry but this looks like a horrible system. |
Depends on what you want.
I want to play DOTT on the move and watch the odd SP.
Guess I best throw that piece of shit GBA in the bin!
Underpowered SNES on the move, Nintendo what did you think you were doing!
Post by: Omizzay on June 09, 2003, 09:42:00 PM
| QUOTE (MikeHolliday @ Jun 9 2003, 09:18 PM) |
| Also, the six buttons include start and select, so really it has the same number of buttons as GBA. So why would i pay more for a system that can play less games? emulators clearly are un-playable without sound except for ancient ones like atari, which you can run on a gba anyways. I'm sorry but this looks like a horrible system. |
Calling this a horrible system makes you look like a complete idiot.
As I said in my original post, there are loads of fully working emulators with hundreds of games on them - all working a full speed and with sound. On top of that, you get mp3 and divx support. The homebrew scene for this handheld is getting better by the day. Even if some of the emulators haven't fully been optimized yet is no reason to call this a horrible system. It's like saying the same thing about the xbox just coz the n64 emu isn't perfect yet.
Post by: Makenshi on June 09, 2003, 09:48:00 PM
Post by: dmb062082 on June 09, 2003, 11:46:00 PM
| QUOTE (Omizzay @ Jun 9 2003, 11:14 AM) |
| Xport - you want a new challenge? |
NO HE DOSNT!
Post by: dmb062082 on June 09, 2003, 11:51:00 PM
To top it all of you can also use it as a mp3 player with the 120mb smart cards. There is also a way to use is as a portable movie player as there are ways to watch full length movies on the system. I dont care what anyone says this murders the GBA hands down and its one of the best systems out there, and it is a handheld go figure.
Downfall is that not many people own the damn thing outside of korea. Probably 5 thousand in the us if that. But yeah dont ever knock this fucking system if you have yet to use it, its simply fucking amazing and worth every penny.
Post by: HumanClay on June 10, 2003, 09:25:00 AM
And for some people considering the system, try this review
http://www.retrogame...u_review_1.html
http://www.retrogame...u_review_2.html
Post by: TB_88 on June 14, 2003, 12:53:00 AM
I don't knwo of any good programs to do so...
Post by: kram on June 14, 2003, 04:53:00 AM
And let me make this clear, the full speed emulators with sound currently are:
Atari ST
Sega Master System
PC Engine
Game Gear
MSX 1 and 2
Commodore 64 (does have slight compatibility issues)
Post by: Mage on June 14, 2003, 08:16:00 AM
As for people saying that because it can run an emulator, those games are included in its list of games, uh no. Those titles weren't written for gp32; gp32 just emulates the systems.
I don't say the xbox has many games due to it being able to emulate nearly every system.
But I'm glad you guys enjoy it, someone has to.
Post by: woo on June 14, 2003, 09:45:00 AM
There is even an ATARI ST emulator! I've heard of Amiga being looked at, but I am very sceptical about this reaching a decent speed, but I'll wait until it's been looked at/worked on some more first.DivX encoding is best done via the Moviepark software and though I've never used it myself, I'm told that it makes totally watchable full sized movies, even on a 128MB SMC..
The only thing that really sucks on this little system are the games native to it... ahh well... it's still worth a thought if you have the money.
Post by: Bender_Unit_1 on June 14, 2003, 02:08:00 PM
GBA will soon have the ability to play DiVX and other video formats, as well as MP3s. Also, Doom, Doom 2, and Wolfentein 3D have been ported to the GBA already. Quake is very do-able on the GBA, but its not going to be released because ID doesn't want it to be ported to the GBA.
GP32 looks like a great system though.
-Bender
Post by: Omizzay on June 14, 2003, 09:43:00 PM
Post by: SSSSSmokey on June 14, 2003, 10:14:00 PM
I've had a GBA since launch and a flash card since soon after. I got my GP32 aobut 3 days ago, from play-asia.com (awesome service BTW, I love that you can use paypal) and it has been GREAT. I know GBA has better native games, but GP32 has a better comprehensive library of games. Whoever said the Snes emu is not very compatible doesn't know what they are talking about. 3/3 games worked for me, Chrono Trigger, FFIII and Earthbound. All with sound and saves, but sadly too slow. Also, "Atari" isn't a system. GBA can play 2600 games, but 32 can play Atari ST games. That is a huge difference. 32 can probly emulate GBA to a certain degree, because of the similarity of processors, much like Cxbx being able to play games full speed (in the future) with only a 2GHz machine.
Post by: full on June 15, 2003, 06:36:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Cxbx being able to play games full speed (in the future) with only a 2GHz machine. |
I doubt that...
I think it can run xbox games in the future but i would say you need like 4Ghz to run xbgames...
Post by: kram on June 15, 2003, 09:15:00 AM
Post by: CraiZE_ on June 15, 2003, 10:29:00 AM
Post by: Bender_Unit_1 on June 15, 2003, 11:34:00 AM
"There is an addon coming out that will allow u to play vids you buy/download specificaly for the GBA. I don't think it'll work like the GP32, allowing you to play anything, or atleast work as well due to the slower processor of GBA "
Actually, this product (I am referring to the Pocket Pix) allows MP3 playing. It also gives you plus a codec to transcode other media formats, and play it on your GBA. You load the data onto an SD card, whichcan get upto 1GIG!: http://www.sandisk.c...sd512mb_1gb.htm
Not exactly like the GP32, but close enough.
-Bender
Post by: kram on June 15, 2003, 04:03:00 PM
Post by: Mars10 on June 15, 2003, 07:04:00 PM
Post by: Bender_Unit_1 on June 15, 2003, 11:04:00 PM
kram has listed some examples where you can use a handheld/portable music player. It's portable for one simple, logical reason: to take it with you. I don't find it necessary to broaden that, because I know you get the jist of that concept.
And you are correct, you can download GBA games for free. But, how portable is your desktop with the emulator on it? How portable is your XBOX with a GBA emu on it? Do happen to have a generator, and TV/monitor to carry with you to make them "portable," and take them with you on the go? How long would the batteries last on your laptop to play GBA games on the go? Could you carry any of those three (PC/laptop/XBOX) in your pocket easily? Should I bother to write these rhetorical questions anymore?
-Bender