A Development Xbox has a USB port on the back for a keyboard or mouse; it also has a Serial Port for Kernel debugging. Also on the Dev unit, there is a port similar to a Scusi port. It has a extra circuit board on the inside, slightly different cable (internally) 128 mg ram, and the software on the hard drive. A debug is basically a normal xbox, with a pin header already installed on the LPC bus, it has 128 mg ram as well, as a blanked EEPROM. Plus the Debug has a see through green case that says debug on the front, and the Den unit has a clear case with development kit on the front. Also on the Dev unit, the lid sits higher than on the on retail, or debug xboxs to accommodate the "extra stuff". Other than that the software that runs them if basically the same, just you can use more parts of it on the Development unit, such as the Kernel debugging, emulating, and the mouse and keyboard. The Development units are more for software developing, and the Debugs are more for testing, and other things. I hope this helps answer your question.
As far as I can tell, debug kits are just newer versions of the dev kits. They're about the same, just one has a BIOS flasher, and DVD emulator. Which don't have too much need for.
I would burn a Recovery disk... if I had an .iso.
Anyways, here's some more info after using Avalaunch -
Version is DVT4/5, RAM 64.00 MB?! (Hopefully an error, or something to do with running from disk, or that the extra devkit stuff isn't installed to initialize it, maybe the extra 64 is "hidden" from most apps and solely for the debug stuff, I don't know. Can someone with a debug kit use Avalaunch and tell me what theirs says?)
Also I FTP'ed UnleashX to apps folder, but if I launched it it would go to MS Dash and say dirty disk. I could have sworn I fixed it in deXBE for debug...
how many ram chips u got check top and bottom of the motherboard + what is there serial numbers
I would kill for a dev or a debug kit
or 2 version 1 or 1.1 xbox mb so i can rip the ram chips of one and put them on the other
i have 2 xboxs only if i could programme in c++ i can only program in c#
QUOTE(haza55 @ Nov 11 2005, 06:17 PM)
how many ram chips u got check top and bottom of the motherboard + what is there serial numbers
Well it looks like you dont have a real debug kit at all.You got ripped off.
You can tell from my personal pic of a debug kit motherboard.
http://photobucket.c...t=debugmobo.jpg
And here is yours.
http://bandjwholesal.../debugboard.jpg
Your motherboard is a V12 or V13 at most.
Dev kit (DVT4) motherboards are V10.
Debug kit motherboards are v.11
Sure? I know with xboxs the early versions had the fan on the GPU and the newer ones don't... sure you don't have an older version (that has other things different too) and I have a newer?
And that doesn't explain the LPC header (which looks unlike) or its inability to play retail xbe's. Or the nVidia chip.
And what exactly is it in the pictures that you say proves it?
But then - what do your debug kits say when you go into Avalaunch, settings, main, and look at memory? Does it say 64.00 Mb or 128.00 Mb?
QUOTE(Pikkon @ Nov 12 2005, 05:22 AM)
And here is yours.
Nothing about this xbox makes sense. I'm not sure if its fake or real, heck, the only solution seems to be like how quantum computers work. They can have 1, 0, Both 1 and 0, or neither. This thing seems to be fake and real at the same time.
Serial number tells its a version 1.4 while tutorial about opening it up says the inside is a 1.2/1.3 supporting the theory its a retail in debug case.
Softmod installer supporting its a retail with flashed TSOP.
I FTP'ed over an xbdm.dll, dashboard.xbx (pointing to \Device\Harddisk0\Partition2;xboxdash.xbe), and a devkit folder with xbdm.dll (look down for content) to E drive using Avalaunch, but could not connect to xbox after rebooting with Xbox Neighboorhood.
Avalaunch reporting 64.00 mb, supporting idea its fake (could be error)
Cannot play retail games or retail flagged apps, supporting the idea its using a real devkit BIOS.
Pin-header installed on LPC supporting its a real dev kit.
Abaility to use debug marked apps, such as Avalaunch off my disk and just recently ConfigMagic 1.6 from apps folder (launched from Avalaunch).
Also, this has to mean something - config magic told me the xbox has a corrupt eeprom and config magic forced me back to dash without letting me see anything useful (ERROR 4 Config Magic says).
And I still don't have a recovery disk...
And deXBE says that the Avalaunch I used DOES NOT have the limit 64 RAM flag on, but it has the "Don't set up Hard disk flag"...
WTF? deXBE when I patch something to debug, save it, quit, and re-open it, its still set to retail. And EvolutionX won't open in it.
I'd be able to fix this xbox so freaking fast if I had a recovery disk...
Ok tell me
1. what mcpx or waterver it is is it a x3 or x2
2. what video encoder chip do u have
3. are there usb daughter boards
4. dose the pin header look like it was soldered on by a machine or a person
5 dose the ram chips look like they have been soldered on
QUOTE(Agent ME @ Nov 8 2005, 07:30 PM)
I've opened it up. Things look a bit different than I'm used to - but I'm used to opening my 1.6 xbox, and the seller said this was 1.4.
Also, I have to decide by 3:00 PM (Pacific Time / GMT - 7) if I want to keep this thing or ship it back to the seller for a refund of my $160. About 40 minutes. Should I keep it? I think I should.
If all turns to worst, I can always end up putting it on ebay "POSSIBLE XBOX DEBUG/DEVELOPMENT SYSTEM" and start the bidding at $200, because even if its fake, its almost the equivalent of a modded xbox with a extremely rare case.
ok u do have a real xbox debug
and the xbox ver is 1.2 or 1.3
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The LPC pin-header is put in there very well, as good as the other things sticking out of the bottom.
I also took a lot of pictures, I'll host them in a zip somewhere in a few minutes.
ok
now have u downloaded the xdk
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I figured out why the debug kit only reported 64.00 mb of ram and did not use the xbdm.dll or anything -
a friend with XDK had a readme file on the recovery disk, and it said that the Retail Restore puts on MS Dash, allows xbox only to play debug beta games, limits 64.00 mb of ram, and will not connect to computer in any way (like Xbox Neighboorhood).
These screenshots should explain themselves and my progress:

So anyone know how to run retail games on this thing? (Without hardware hacks preferably)
And why aren't the pics showing?
Anyways, I ran the recovery disk, restored it to dev kit, now Avalaunch says 128.00 MB of RAM, and development kit kernel detected.
Come on, someone's gotta know a way.
Yeah I noticed some tut for games on debug by putting the game like its saved to the hard drive into the Game Development Volume (The XDK E: drive I think). Will that work?
And can this thing use Live? To what point? Can I point my account on this thing, go to MS Dash, see my friends online, message them and do features MS Dash lets?
What about in games? Could I save a game to the hard drive and play that on Live?
Dude you got a real dev / debug box you just really need the XDK Recovery Disc.... When I first got my dev box, It was in retail state. So I popped in the XDK Recovery Disc and restored it to Dev State, then applied hack_dev_kit to make it run whatever .xbe I want
Tho now I'm looking for a way to get a BIOS Loader to run on it so I can run the Dashboards that don't work well under a dev bios or a hacked dev bios
Added ya to my MSN for in case you needed something just feel free to pm me or whatever
ole_dev_hacker
lol havnt been here for ages
ok
first off get the latest hacked debug bios
flash it with evox i think
then put evox in the application launch folder i dun wat it is cause i havnt used debug for about a month now
then launch evox with a configeration file that u made to point to the right dir s
and boot a game like h2 and tell me the results
Whats the name of the hacked debug BIOS? I can run it from BFM right?
Where is the hacked debug BIOS and a good BFM loader located on the usual places?
PS: I've already restored it with a 5849 recovery disk. I'm going to use the external recovery app to restore it to 5933 soon.
umm try one of the complex bios
What exactly do I download? It looks like most of those BIOS are for retail-converted-to-debug xboxs.
What the heck??!?
This is kinda strange...
I tried putting on PacManX and Super Mario War, PacManX got an error when trying to load (XDK Launcher reported it - just like if you try and play Halo), so I deleted it, then I played Super Mario War, omg fun...
And I go to MS Dash to see if it makes a cool icon and save.
It didn't, but, I found 2 soundtracks that were never there before! I doubt Super Mario War put them on (I deleted them, tried Super Mario War again, they didn't come back). Anyways, the soundtracks were "Fighting Theme" or "Fighting" and then "Racing Music" or "Racing Theme". Two songs I remember on there were Journey and Ham.
Anyone know where these came from? This debug kit has been recovered to 5933 recently so don't say the previous owner put them on...
Looks like you got a deal. Only 160.
Someone's gotta know how to get retail on this thing....
Where is it located on the usual places?
Got that, about to try and install.
Is this reversible, or if I mess up or put wrong file somewhere else fixable? I'm continuing now, I'll post what happens.
Can some tell me exactly what I need to do? THe translation of the file is horrible. When it says put in E:, does it mean the REAL E:, or XDK's E (Game Development Volume)? I'll try XE: first then real E: and see what happens.
Yes it works! I'm using my map pack disk (Retail) to install new Halo2 maps, and Halo2 works!
Ok, would it be safe to use UnleashX to format F:, and then use that other tool I saw somewhere to give F support to XDK launcher?
Ok, that's fine, because this is just the 10gb stock hd.
Its on Ebay now!
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Ebay Link
....So all that fecking around, creating one of the longest threads on xbox-scene, and now your bored with it and selling it on ebay, lol, classic