Post by: DkT Friendly on October 29, 2005, 10:48:00 AM
Post by: JustinT9669 on October 29, 2005, 12:17:00 PM
QUOTE(DkT Friendly @ Oct 29 2005, 09:59 AM)
no didnt work for me
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: DkT Friendly on October 29, 2005, 04:12:00 PM
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did it work??
i used 5933
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: JustinT9669 on October 30, 2005, 12:44:00 PM
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Nope, It didn't work
. XDK 5933 doesn't recognizes MS Visual Studio 2005 and it only allows you to do a minimum install, not a full install (which is needed). Maybe if someone can make a patch....I doubt thats going to happen.
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on October 31, 2005, 02:57:00 PM
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Yea didn't work for me either. Maby it's because it's beta. Just uninstall and wait for a full release.
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: JustinT9669 on October 31, 2005, 05:54:00 PM
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Post by: DkT Friendly on October 29, 2005, 04:12:00 PM
i used 5933
Post by: JustinT9669 on October 30, 2005, 12:44:00 PM
. XDK 5933 doesn't recognizes MS Visual Studio 2005 and it only allows you to do a minimum install, not a full install (which is needed). Maybe if someone can make a patch....I doubt thats going to happen.
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on October 31, 2005, 02:57:00 PM
Post by: JustinT9669 on October 31, 2005, 05:54:00 PM
QUOTE(tcghost @ Oct 31 2005, 04:22 PM)
it's not beta anymore, and xdk just doesn't have the files for vs2005...we will probably have a new xdk release soon that will support vs2005
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: DkT Friendly on October 31, 2005, 07:31:00 PM
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I bet they will alls they have to do is editing like 3 things in code and its good to go lets hope they do
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: Agent ME on October 31, 2005, 10:51:00 PM
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What versions of MS C++ does XDK work with?
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: JustinT9669 on November 01, 2005, 06:09:00 PM
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Post by: DkT Friendly on October 31, 2005, 07:31:00 PM
Post by: Agent ME on October 31, 2005, 10:51:00 PM
Post by: JustinT9669 on November 01, 2005, 06:09:00 PM
QUOTE(DkT Friendly @ Oct 31 2005, 07:42 PM)
I bet they will alls they have to do is editing like 3 things in code and its good to go lets hope they do
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: Agent ME on November 01, 2005, 08:13:00 PM
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Post by: Agent ME on November 01, 2005, 08:13:00 PM
QUOTE(OC-NightHawk @ Nov 1 2005, 12:45 AM)
VS 2003 and the older builds supported Visual Studio 6.
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: JustinT9669 on November 08, 2005, 01:21:00 AM
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I wonder if it will work with MS Visual C++ 2005 Express.
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: DkT Friendly on November 11, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
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i bought the beta disk for 7 bucks form MS expecting it to work but no it doesnt its very gay that it doesnt work im sure that a new XDK will come up very soon
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: fghjj on November 12, 2005, 03:29:00 PM
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I fail to see what advantage VS 2005 offers over the 2003 version when developing Xbox homebrew software. Or do you expect all these features to be useful on Xbox too?
-.NET CLR on Xbox ??
-ATL/MFC/CRT libraries useful on Xbox ??
-Some new C++ specific stuff ??
-Support for solutions w/ 16000+ files ??
-A few other tools and gadgets ??
You could just run 2003 on one PC and 2005 on another. Or do you guys just want to run the newest version for the sake of having the newest version?
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on November 14, 2005, 10:53:00 PM
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Well I'v been hard at work hacking 0's and 1's trying to get them to integrate and have 2 major problems.
1) Can't figure out what the XDK is specifically looking for when it scans your system.
2) I have uncovered that VS 03 and VS 05 have different names for a hand-full of their components. In other words the way that the xdk integrates into VS 03 won't work in VS 05. The objects and reg entries don't exist or don't match. Some are simple like changing the memory type from int to floating point, but some are complex strings that make no sense at all. Just a few though.
So the only ways that I can think of is to either wait for a new version of the XDK form M$, which looks grim. Maybe there was a private update or patch that didn't go public, proly not. Or continue hacking away at the XDK. If I could find out how the xdk calls for data from VS 03 I could find similar areas on VS 05 and just infer the difference between those specific values.
So has anyone else tried this yet. I'm not that good of a programmer so I might be on the wrong track.
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: XBOX War3z on November 15, 2005, 05:28:00 AM
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You can just run VS2003+XDK and VS2005 together on one system.
I'm doing it right now, and yes VS2005 has no advantages for Xbox Developing.
With the Xbox360 coming up I don't thing they'll release a new XDK for VS2005.
But you can expect the 360 XDK to be compatible with VS2005 or even VS2005 only.
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on November 15, 2005, 11:51:00 PM
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: Smoko on November 29, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
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Has anyone tryed manually adding the files to the right dir on VC 2005?
You can view the XDK setup.exe with WinRAR and view all of the files. Just thought I should mention it because I cant try.
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: Smoko on December 08, 2005, 05:12:00 AM
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Has anyone tested Smoko's idea or is anyone actively working on another solution?
Yeah, I would like to know this.
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Title: Upgrading To Ms Visual Studio 2005
Post by: DkT Friendly on December 22, 2005, 11:32:00 PM
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testing right now
doesnt work
fails to launch
Post by: JustinT9669 on November 08, 2005, 01:21:00 AM
Post by: DkT Friendly on November 11, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
Post by: fghjj on November 12, 2005, 03:29:00 PM
-.NET CLR on Xbox ??
-ATL/MFC/CRT libraries useful on Xbox ??
-Some new C++ specific stuff ??
-Support for solutions w/ 16000+ files ??
-A few other tools and gadgets ??
You could just run 2003 on one PC and 2005 on another. Or do you guys just want to run the newest version for the sake of having the newest version?
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on November 14, 2005, 10:53:00 PM
1) Can't figure out what the XDK is specifically looking for when it scans your system.
2) I have uncovered that VS 03 and VS 05 have different names for a hand-full of their components. In other words the way that the xdk integrates into VS 03 won't work in VS 05. The objects and reg entries don't exist or don't match. Some are simple like changing the memory type from int to floating point, but some are complex strings that make no sense at all. Just a few though.
So the only ways that I can think of is to either wait for a new version of the XDK form M$, which looks grim. Maybe there was a private update or patch that didn't go public, proly not. Or continue hacking away at the XDK. If I could find out how the xdk calls for data from VS 03 I could find similar areas on VS 05 and just infer the difference between those specific values.
So has anyone else tried this yet. I'm not that good of a programmer so I might be on the wrong track.
Post by: XBOX War3z on November 15, 2005, 05:28:00 AM
I'm doing it right now, and yes VS2005 has no advantages for Xbox Developing.
With the Xbox360 coming up I don't thing they'll release a new XDK for VS2005.
But you can expect the 360 XDK to be compatible with VS2005 or even VS2005 only.
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on November 15, 2005, 11:51:00 PM
Post by: Smoko on November 29, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
You can view the XDK setup.exe with WinRAR and view all of the files. Just thought I should mention it because I cant try.
Post by: Smoko on December 08, 2005, 05:12:00 AM
QUOTE(DJSymmetry @ Dec 7 2005, 11:42 PM) 
Has anyone tested Smoko's idea or is anyone actively working on another solution?
Yeah, I would like to know this.
Post by: DkT Friendly on December 22, 2005, 11:32:00 PM
doesnt work
fails to launch