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Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: BenJeremy on September 23, 2003, 07:05:00 AM

:::sigh:::

It's a true DEBUG BIOS - It doesn't run retail games.

Use TATX (There's a BFM floating around, or use XBTool to convert it) Debug instead, it has the required hacks.

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: SCX on September 23, 2003, 07:38:00 AM

Based on my other thread, I think I have figured out why the error occurs.  I think it has to do with my Xbox having only 64 MB system memory instead of the 128 on a debug unit.

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: The unProfessional on September 23, 2003, 04:05:00 PM

The preview you're attempting to run is a release build, I'm sure.  The difference is just basically in how the XBE was compiled.  The XBE must be compiled in retail mode to run on a retail box.  So any previews or demos will also be in retail mode.  The only way you'll ever need to run debug .exe's is if you are developing, or you're running a homebrew debug build.

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: C4TRMNTOR on September 24, 2003, 08:30:00 PM

I've come to the conclusion that it's almost impossible to get a converted Retail game to run off Debug (real XDK or "fake" modded Retail to XDK). I've tried De-Xbe (very nice prog may I add) and it's worked with all apps/code, it just won't work with games that are originally Retail. Even when you switch it the Debug it won't run. I've tried it on numerous games. I just recently tried today to get Rainbow Six 3 Demo to run (patching it different ways) and I still have no luck. Maybe this problem can be fixed in the next release of De-Xbe?

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: Alcofrolic on September 25, 2003, 07:40:00 AM

well, i had this problem a while back. i have a retail box, and i couldtn find the debug bios etc (still cant) and i have a beta test version of Lamborghini.
i want to play it but it will not run on a retail xbox at all, and allthe copy progs i have used would only show up the normal xbox dvd files (vob etc).

would this game work if i had the debug bios?

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: C4TRMNTOR on September 25, 2003, 11:33:00 AM

Alcofrolic: in theory, the way that DE-XBE works, you could possibly get your Beta test version (of whatever game that is) to run on a Retail Xbox by using DE-XBE. I've only tried getting Retail to run in Debug (and had no luck), not vise versa like you. So by using DE-XBE it may or may not work.

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: EPe9686518 on September 25, 2003, 03:06:00 PM

90% of preview builds need more then 64 mb of ram to run. It has to do with the way they where compiled. De-xbe looks like it could fix this, but it doesn't. The prog seems to use a lot of hacks or something. As this point, there is no way to play preview builds on a moded xbox with De-XBE nore retail games on a debug kit.

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: The unProfessional on September 25, 2003, 04:07:00 PM

If the XBE runs from a non-debug bios, then it clearly doesn't require 64MB of RAM.  However, retail XBEs will not run properly under a debug bios, and that's just something we've all gotten used to.  Not too big of a deal, in my opinion.

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: sexy_xexy on October 19, 2003, 03:43:00 PM

where can i get these debug games/?
is there some site thta you can download them from?

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: bucko on October 22, 2003, 12:21:00 PM

No requests!!!

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: sexy_xexy on October 24, 2003, 12:06:00 AM

aite, sorry bucko.. wasnt awear of the rules.. my falut..
but i do have one very important questoin

i have no idea what good a debug kit can do.... i have one, it has a green out case, and has a label XBOX DEBUG KIT on the bottom of it... it has already 2 games installed in the HD, (Halo and Tetris)... then all this other stuff.. i cant seem to figure out how to network my xbox to my laptop so i can transfer games on the HD (because it doesnt read retail original games) so im LOST.. like what good can this DEBUG kit do.. does it help me in anyway.. like is there something special i can do with a DEBUG xbox rahter then a regular XBOX?... im very lost... no idea what to do.. please help me out!!!

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: Wishi on October 24, 2003, 07:57:00 AM

If you don't know what the hell a debug Xbox is for, then why do you have one you fool?

Go sell it on eBay and maybe someone who does know what it's for can pick it up.

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: sexy_xexy on October 25, 2003, 01:20:00 AM

buddy.. why dont you back off.. i was givin one... sorry i dont know how to use one, or what its used for, but im tryin to find out, isnt that what a forum is for!?

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: sexy_xexy on October 25, 2003, 12:45:00 PM

can someone please take the time to help me out... ive had the debug for a whole month.. and im getting bored of playing the same 2 games over and over... i have xbox retail games on my computer, can someone tell me how to put them onto the debug hdd.. or at least network w/ it... or something esle i can do w/ it.. just anything.. PLEASE

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: sexy_xexy on October 29, 2003, 12:26:00 AM

yelin dude...
thanks a lot.. answered tons of questions.. i apperciate you talking time to answer... but, i do have one more question... you said games still in progress.. so like games that are being made.. is there some kind of way of getting MS to send you games that are untested and being made?... thanks

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: sexy_xexy on October 29, 2003, 12:40:00 AM

(continuing with last post)

cause, i have halo and tetris world live on the hdd right now... so does that mean, the person who was making tetris and halo put it on there... im confused.. help please

Title: Problem Loading Game In Debug
Post by: sexy_xexy on October 29, 2003, 10:07:00 PM

thanks again dude, your wicked... helped out a lot...

ok, so far nothing positive can come from my debug.. what do you suggest i could do with it.. do people buy it?