Post by: SPPV on July 02, 2013, 04:53:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on June 19, 2005, 08:23:00 PM
note: Improper installation may cause error/ hangup so make sure that you have proper recovery method.
Changelog:
from 3.0 to 3.1
NKpatcher11_U04 by xman954
same files for both basic and retail setup
clock check disabled by default
Eeprom_reder by xman954 for easier and quicker eeprom backup
boot1.bin location moved to E:\NKP11
Virtual eeprom.bin location is moved to E:\NKP11
Fixed bugs in xboxhdm script
from 2.1 to 3.0
Added UDDAE setup function
Added UDDAE installation to Ndure toolset
Ability to convert your setup for use with xboxhdm
Open tray settings
Ability to use xonlinedash console
Nkpatcher_11_U2 by xman
RGB/Progressive Nkpatcher
Changed graphics and icons of the installer
Improved Ndure Toolset
Minor bug fixes and additions
From 2.0 to 2.1
336MB shadowc+21MB filler for future use
Full featured Ndure gamesave installer
From 1.5 to 2.0
-Uses unleashx as dashboard
-Dashboard now in E:\dash\
-Uses nkpatcher.06 by default..
-Unleashx contains command to turn on/off Ndure
-Gamesave loader. If for any reason your C drive gets messed then this gamesave will directly boot you unleashx dash. This can be helpful if you want to use turn on/off Ndure for full live access with xonlinedash.xbe.
- Shadowc in C:\shadowc folder
-Removed "disable virtual eeprom entry"..
-You can use nkpatcher.67 if you want.
-The installer will remove settings_adoc.xip if you want to patch C drive folders.
-Retail setup is enabled by default.
-You wont need to manually delete "C" folder from destination path if you are patching..
-The installer is only 3.7Mb now.
NDURE: (Next dimension uber
rmenhal exploit) Ndure is derived from UEEE. IT uses xonlinedash.xbe from special 4920 MS dash. Instead of looking for fonts in C:/fonts folder, It looks for fonts in C:/xodash folder. This feature enables you to have a unmodified retail MS dash in C drive. It uses more stable fonts than UXE/UDE2. It allows you to run a alternative tray state modded-unmodded setup just like modchips, in unmodded state it has the ability to launch MS dash which will allow easier acces to XBL system. It does not mean that Ndure is safe from XBL banning. If MS checks you HD and finds modified files, they can still ban you.
Official Topic->
WHAT IS IT: Ndure installer installs includes necessary files needed to run ndure on a xbox. This installer includes very basic sets of files and also advance components and configuration for users. You can also use it as a patch for C drive files to replace C drive with fully softmodded files. This readme assumes that you have intermediate knowledge of your xbox although if you follow the instruction carefully, anyone can install the Ndure safely.
(IMG:http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6207/nd311yb6.png)
USAGE:
1. Core Files: (Default Ndure retail):
Start the installer. Select and output folder. By default the installer uses retail profile. Which means the xbox will boot to homebrew dashboard with power button and MS dashboard with eject button. The default bios is nkpatcher.67 which means F drive takes up to 127GB and G drive takes the rest. Files needed to upload for a softmod setup:
C DRIVE: bios folder (C:\ root), media folder (C:\ root), xboxdash.xbe (C:\ root), xb0xdash.xbe (C:\ root), earnie.xtf and xbox.xtf (C:\xodash\), shadowc folder (C:\ root), xonlinedash.xbe (C:\xodash\), x0nlinedash.xbe (C:\xodash\), x2onlinedash.xbe (C:\xodash)
E DRIVE: dash folder (E:\ root), ndts folder (E:\root), NKP11 folder (E:\ root)
2. Choose between basic and retail softmod:
From the dropdown menu choose Ndure Basic. With Ndure basic configuration, you will boot to homebrew dash with either eject or power button.
3. Patching C drive files:
For this, it is recommended that you have latest MS dash (5960.01 V. 185EAD00). Have all of the dash files in a folder named "C". Next, run the installer with your appropriate choices. As a destination folder, select the parent folder that has your dash files "C" folder in it (don't select "C" folder). The installer will add/rename/delete necessary files and create a complete C drive replacement.
C drive folder before patching:
Audio
fonts
xboxdashdata.185ead00 (includes settings_adoc.xip)
xodash
xboxdash.xbe
C drive folder after patching:
Audio
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xodash ( includes fonts, xonlinedash.xbe, x0nlinedash.xbe and x2onlinedash.xbe)
media
bios
xboxdash.xbe
xb0xdash.xbe ( if you choose retail setup)
UPLOADING TO XBOX:
First make sure that you do not have a 4 MB file called "settings_adoc.xip" in xboxdashdata.185EAD00 in "C" folder or C drive. If there is the 4 MB file, then delete it (but don't delete it if it's smaller). Upload the files with any ftp client. You can batch upload the files if you wish. It is necessary that you upload earnie.xtf (In xodash folder) first and then upload xbox.xtf (In xodash folder). Since all ftp clients uploads files in Alphabetical order, it will upload earnie.xtf before xbox.xtf. Check your ftp log to see the order or you can upload the fonts manually to C:\xodash\ folder.
Corrcet order of font uploading:
(IMG:http://img122.echo.cx/img122/4348/capture331200590738pm621200530.jpg)
NDURE INSTALLER FOR XBOXHDM:
Ndure installer for pc now includes a autoinstaller for xboxhdm. The script allows you to install ndure files generated by Ndure pc installer with xboxhdm.
HOW TO USE:
Create your appropriate Ndure setup. Check the "create xboxhdm installer". Ndure installer will create a folder called "ndure" which have your customized setup. Copy the created "ndure" folder to "xboxhdm/linux" folder. Browse to CD/ndure/ folder, select "ndure" file and hit enter to launch it or you can type /CD/ndure/ndure to launch the script.
Option 1: copies files generated by ndure pc installer. Option 2 completely erases C drive and copy ndure files.
Option 2: Useful if you want a clean ndure installation or you used ndure installer to patch C:\ drive files. Option 2 is recommended if you want to use shadowc, UDDAE and other features without problem.
Option 3: Installs UDDAE.
Option 4 & 5: Backups/Recovers C drive. The backup is compatible with Ndure toolset.
UDDAE (Uber Double Dash Audio Exploit):
OFFICIAL TOPIC: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=444280
WHAT IT IS: UDDAE is reincarnation of Audio exploit. MS Live 2.0+ dash has audio exploit fixed. UDDAE uses xboxdsh.xbe from dashboard version 4920.17cdc100 (Uber dash). This xboxdash.xbe is audio exploitable. This xboxdash.xbe is renamed to settings_adoc.xip and replaced for original settings_adoc.xip in xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder. When dash is running easter egg runs settings_adoc.xip and thus causing audio exploit.
HOW TO INSTALL: Copy xboxdashdata.17cdc100 folder to C:\. Copy settings_adoc.xip from ndure installation folders xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder to C:\xboxdashdata.185ead00\.
Copy ST.DB from Ndure installation folders E\TDATA|fffe0000\music\ST.DB to E:\TDATA\fffe0000\music\
HOW TO RUN: In xboxdash go to Music>blank soundtrack>Copy>Select>Copy>New Soundtrack><<Eggsβox>>(with two '<' Symbols, capital 'E', beta Accent 'β' and two '>' Symbols)>Done (UberDash starts)>Music>blank soundtrack>Copy>Copy>New Soundtrack>Done
Note: Use kernel specific ST.DB for best results.
HOW TO GET: Now avaliable on Xbins! (/XBOX/Console Based Applications/exploits/_Packages/Kingroachs Installer folder)
This post has been edited by kingroach: Aug 31 2007, 03:26 AM
Post by: kingroach on June 19, 2005, 07:49:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 19, 2005, 08:32:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on June 19, 2005, 09:17:00 PM
This post has been edited by kingroach: Jun 20 2005, 04:17 AM
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 19, 2005, 09:24:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 19, 2005, 10:55:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on June 20, 2005, 10:26:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on June 20, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
This post has been edited by krayzie: Jun 20 2005, 06:17 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 20, 2005, 11:33:00 AM
I did the retail setup, and generic fonts on my 3944 kernel. Worked wonderfully.
Post by: krayzie on June 20, 2005, 11:35:00 AM
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 20, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on June 20, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on June 20, 2005, 11:46:00 AM
QUOTE
Posting/Requesting/Offering direct or indirect links to Xbox Game Roms/Backups (on media, including Hard drives or burned media, RAR or Zip File, for download or for sale), MS Dashboard Files, and any kind of (direct, indirect, or Kazaa or Torrent type) link to Xbox XDK Produced Homebrew
clearly mentions (in)direct links are not permitted.
Post by: RiceCake on June 20, 2005, 11:52:00 AM
Either way, I'm kinda leaning to krayzie's side on this situation.
Edit: Your signature also contains an indirect link to copywritten files, unfortunately, since xboxhelp.tk has your Ndure installer directly avaliable.
This post has been edited by RiceCake: Jun 20 2005, 06:55 PM
Post by: DaddyJ on June 20, 2005, 11:55:00 AM
, but honestly, there are other ways that are more discreet.BTW, great job on this, another great release.....
Post by: kingroach on June 20, 2005, 11:55:00 AM
edit: ok I removed the link ( email).. I will add some other way...
This post has been edited by kingroach: Jun 20 2005, 06:57 PM
Post by: RiceCake on June 20, 2005, 12:27:00 PM
The e-mail address though, well, its an indirect link I would say because your clearly offering the Ndure installer to people who message that address.
Post by: krayzie on June 20, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
Post by: DaddyJ on June 20, 2005, 03:39:00 PM
QUOTE(krayzie @ Jun 20 2005, 04:05 PM)
maybe you could do it devz3ro style and add a patch that creates the right files from peoples own dash files.
Maybe, yes lets make this n"oo"b friendly as its setup is a little more involved, but the installer works great king*, checked it on 2 setups 5838 & 5101, all options.
QUOTE(DaddyJ)
if anyone would like the custom font compiler, to include ndure fonts, let me know, if not then im not going to mess with it.
This post has been edited by DaddyJ: Jun 21 2005, 02:51 AM
Post by: devz3ro on June 20, 2005, 03:21:00 PM
pin for now
-devz3ro
This post has been edited by devz3ro: Jun 20 2005, 10:25 PM
Post by: PedrosPad on June 20, 2005, 04:36:00 PM
Seriously, congratulations to all involved.
Post by: RiceCake on June 20, 2005, 07:08:00 PM
By the way to any newbs, idiots, know it alls, etc visiting this thread - if you can't understand every single word in This Guide On XGuides then don't play with Ndure. UXE works fine.
Anyone releasing a legal package to patch files is welcome to use the bandwidth provided at XGuides.
This post has been edited by RiceCake: Jun 23 2005, 05:47 PM
Post by: kingroach on June 20, 2005, 09:02:00 PM
I removed any direct links from my blog so it should be XS- Friendly now. About the whole linking and illegal files thing.. we all live in a gray world dont we.. I cannt argue with all the mods here.. if there is rules then that should be followed.QUOTE
maybe you could do it devz3ro style and add a patch that creates the right files from peoples own dash files.
I tried to make a noob proof installer.. so that users wouldnt need anything of expect the installer.. A patch can be created for generic use but a patch wouldnt have as many options and configuarations like an installer.
Although technically you can call this installer a patch.. ( can we?).. I mean apatch contains differentiation bits between two files in an crypted form and an installer contains full bits of files in crypted form.. There is no way di-assmble the installer.
QUOTE
Contrary to kingroach, not all FTP clients respect the alphabet, since uploading my hack I could easily tell FileZilla likes to upload the /xodash/ folder at the same time as it processes the /media/ folder (Assuming its on a multiple connection upload).
thnx for corrceting me.. I will update the ftp part later on.. so that all confusions can be cleared.
Post by: krayzie on June 20, 2005, 10:39:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 21 2005, 04:37 AM)
I tried to make a noob proof installer.. so that users wouldnt need anything of expect the installer.. A patch can be created for generic use but a patch wouldnt have as many options and configuarations like an installer.
Well basically you just have to use a patch to create the right xonlinedash.xbe. then extract all the needed files out of the dash and that's it. The fonts are legal to distribute so in the end people would only have to add some retail (maybe cut it to 5960 only) dashboard files and a replacement dashboard (Evox).
But the best and easiest thing offcourse would be xbins distro. I'm sure Devz3ro can see the use of this (as oposed to many old and/or shitty stuff hosted there) and grant you a submision.
Post by: eh. on June 21, 2005, 12:58:00 AM
QUOTE(PedrosPad @ Jun 20 2005, 04:11 PM)
Congratulations kingroach - mainly for the NDure explanation - you say in your one root post what eh took 22 pages of posts to say. :P :D ;)
Seriously, congratulations to all involved. :beer:
:flame: eh. :rotfl:Seriously, congratulations to all involved. :beer:
Thank you everyone that helped evolve and develop/test Ndure. :luv:
Primarily wrayal formulated the "retail" setup and Cio the "basic" setup.
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SFAIK, "my methods" aren't implemented by this utility - the "fonts" and "starter" setups with their dashupdate.xbe 'safety nets'. Maybe they will be deemed useful for it or others eventually too (such as this awesome sounding work-in-progress of triggernum5's perhaps?) ... only time will tell.
This post has been edited by eh.: Jun 21 2005, 08:05 AM
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 21, 2005, 02:19:00 AM
Here's a huge thanks from me to all involved. I'm playing on Live right now with ndure installed, no problems, big hard drive and all. Way to go guys (at risk of sounding lame), and that sounds like a pretty uber team.
Thanks again.
Post by: EthanHunt_IMF on June 21, 2005, 04:47:00 AM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Jun 21 2005, 04:30 AM)
Glad xbins is being considered.
I think by "over-looking" he ment "look past, fail to notice". Meaning it won't be at xbins.
Edit: N/M Dev cleared this up for me... Great job with the installer.
This post has been edited by EthanHunt_IMF: Jun 21 2005, 11:49 AM
Post by: moviecut on June 21, 2005, 05:12:00 AM
- nkpatcher will be installed, but i can`t choose between .06 and .67? hmmm, isn`t this needed?
- i whould like to see unleashx to be provided with this installer, along with the great project mayhem III skin. but i can change that for myself, so it`s okay
Post by: kingroach on June 21, 2005, 05:53:00 AM
QUOTE
SFAIK, "my methods" aren't implemented by this utility - the "fonts" and "starter" setups with their dashupdate.xbe 'safety nets'. Maybe they will be deemed useful for it or others eventually too (such as this awesome sounding work-in-progress of triggernum5's perhaps?) ... only time will tell.
I added a dummy file in my first version of the installer.. then thought what if users tries to update dash files etc. so it might be best if users create their dummy. I will add detail instruction on the tutorial.
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nkpatcher will be installed, but i can`t choose between .06 and .67? hmmm, isn`t this needed?
yah.. I guess I left that part.. I will add the option in next version.. thnx for the suggestion.
if you like to chaneg dash.. its in C:\hack\dash folder.
Post by: moviecut on June 21, 2005, 07:16:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 21 2005, 02:04 PM)
yah.. I guess I left that part.. I will add the option in next version.. thnx for the suggestion.
for now nkpatcher .06 is installed, right? so this for now is only an installer to work on boxes with hd up to 250gb? i think thats alright for 95% of all softmodding people. but it should be changed for future. as the default dashboard should be changed to unleashx, the best dashboard out there..
Post by: kingroach on June 21, 2005, 07:20:00 AM
Post by: eh. on June 21, 2005, 08:54:00 AM
I tried the awesome "M$ dash conversion" feature; copied my 5960 (185ead00) to a folder, chose that folder name and it added the files into a sub-folder named C.
No worries: I then deleted that C folder, re-ran it, manually removed the '/C' it appended to the folder name and it worked as expected.
Suggestions:
1: could this particular aspect of the installer also create the shadowc.img (that would nearly fill the C-partition)* so that the user wouldn't subsequently be at risk of dashupdate.xbe clobbering it entirely (unless they decide not to ftp the shadowc.img over)?
2: I haven't checked, but if the virtualEEPROM isn't enabled already could it be (and pre-named) but not actually created, so that a "non-overwritable" virtualEEPROM results?
3: could the "retail" setup be the default (instead of the "basic") so the user must uncheck things if they decide not to have the settings required for that?
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* It wasn't discussed in the original thread, but for the "retail" setup dashupdate.xbe only clobbers the entire softmod if there's more than 13.6MB free in C. (With less free, as was discussed, it clobbers the /C/xboxdashdata.185ead00 [plus /C/fonts if it exists] folder and contents).
This post has been edited by eh.: Jun 21 2005, 04:06 PM
Post by: eh. on June 21, 2005, 10:10:00 AM
QUOTE(eh. @ Jun 21 2005, 09:05 AM - MB)
* It wasn't discussed in the original thread, but for the "retail" setup (with stock xboxdashdata.185ead00 and no fonts folder in C) dashupdate.xbe only clobbers the entire softmod if there's 32MB or more free in C and it isn't aborted in time. (With less free, as was discussed, it clobbers the /C/xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder and contents).
Addendum: In the latter case (or if it's aborted in time), the tray-closed softmod boot remains operational and would be used to re-instate the open-tray retail boot (by deleting the resultant fonts.du and xboxdashdat.du folders then recovering the stock xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder from backup).
This post has been edited by eh.: Jun 21 2005, 05:23 PM
Post by: kingroach on June 21, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
QUOTE
: could this particular aspect of the installer also create the shadowc.img (that would nearly fill the C-partition)* so that the user wouldn't subsequently be at risk of dashupdate.xbe clobbering it entirely (unless they decide not to ftp the shadowc.img over)?
I am updating the installer.. with new installer, shadowc will be autometically created.. There will be three dummy file.. shadowc.img which is shadowc and 300MB, and one 50MB dummy and one 4MB dummy.. This will enable future user updates if they want like adding a new dashboard or adding something.. even if they want to install largest dashboard.. they can just remove the 50MB file to make the space..
QUOTE
2: I haven't checked, but if the virtualEEPROM isn't enabled already could it be (and pre-named) but not actually created, so that a "non-overwritable" virtualEEPROM results?
virtual eeprom is enable.. virtual eeprom patch will be C:/shadowc/eeprom.bin
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3: could the "retail" setup be the default (instead of the "basic") so the user must uncheck things if they decide not to have the settings required for that?
I will look into installer documentation if it can be done.. ( I am sure I saw something like that but forgot where it is..
QUOTE
I tried the awesome "M$ dash conversion" feature; copied my 5960 (185ead00) to a folder, chose that folder name and it added the files into a sub-folder named C.
A directory is created not to mixup with other files.. anyway user has to delete the /C at the end..
Post by: hotboi on June 21, 2005, 02:47:00 PM
Post by: Icare on June 21, 2005, 11:18:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 21, 2005, 11:44:00 PM
Post by: eh. on June 22, 2005, 11:22:00 AM
Can anyone think of a viable way to PREVENT dashupdate.xbe's clobbering the dashboard in retail mode?
It was discussed in the original thread (starting here) but went nowhere. Maybe someone in this thread can overcome that "noob-friendliness" obstacle...
Post by: kingroach on June 22, 2005, 12:02:00 PM
I dont think there will be another update.. since Conker was last XBL punch and it didnt have any updates..
Post by: DaddyJ on June 22, 2005, 12:46:00 PM
QUOTE(eh.,)
Can anyone think of a viable way to PREVENT dashupdate.xbe's clobbering the dashboard in retail mode?
In retail mode, theres really no access to do anything on the C.
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 22, 2005, 01:37:00 PM
Post by: krayzie on June 22, 2005, 01:40:00 PM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Jun 22 2005, 09:48 PM)
I was on Halo 2 last night on live and my dash got overwritten. It seemed what they'd done is overwritten xboxdash.xbe and placed a fonts folder in the root of C with the stock fonts in it. No biggie, quick fix.
so you are saying with a retail dualboot setup when a dashupdate occurs they still are able to replace the xboxdash.xbe and place a fonts folder with retail fonts. How would they do that with a full C drive? How did your xbox boot after the upgrade? To the dash or to an error screen?
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 22, 2005, 05:41:00 PM
What's the best way to fill up the C drive? A shadow C?
Post by: hotboi on June 22, 2005, 06:58:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on June 22, 2005, 08:48:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 22, 2005, 10:41:00 PM
Post by: Cio on June 23, 2005, 06:01:00 AM
QUOTE(devz3ro @ Jun 21 2005, 09:32 AM)
Iriez and I are over-looking this for a "usual places" release
halfway thru the thread, and quite a lot after i first pointed out that ndure basic files existed and thus could be used in the same way UXE complete is used by most first time softmodders now.
But hope to see something up soon, at least the work will be able to benefit more ppl now.
Still, i think a nice savegame installer or even a simple NKpatcher bootstrap + small boot ISO to get all this going from the xbox itself would be very nice.
Post by: =jenipapo= on June 23, 2005, 06:49:00 AM
Thx kingroach for the Ndure.
I'll try it this weekend.
Could got it after lost some time.
thx,
Jenny
Post by: kingroach on June 23, 2005, 09:51:00 AM
I chaanged the download page and made it like triggurnums page and blackwars installer page.. so it should be much more easier to get the files now.
Post by: eh. on June 23, 2005, 11:36:00 AM
I just tried 1.5 (only on my PC so far) re:
QUOTE(eh. @ Jun 21 2005, 09:05/10:21 AM)
Glitch:
I tried the awesome "M$ dash conversion" feature; copied my 5960 (185ead00) to a folder, chose that folder name and it added the files into a sub-folder named C.
No worries: I then deleted that C folder, re-ran it, manually removed the '/C' it appended to the folder name and it worked as expected.
Suggestions:
1: could this particular aspect of the installer also create the shadowc.img (that would nearly fill the C-partition)* so that the user wouldn't subsequently be at risk of dashupdate.xbe clobbering it entirely (unless they decide not to ftp the shadowc.img over)?
2: I haven't checked, but if the virtualEEPROM isn't enabled already could it be (and pre-named) but not actually created, so that a "non-overwritable" virtualEEPROM results?
3: could the "retail" setup be the default (instead of the "basic") so the user must uncheck things if they decide not to have the settings required for that?_______
* It wasn't discussed in the original thread, but for the "retail" setup (with stock xboxdashdata.185ead00 and no fonts folder in C) dashupdate.xbe only clobbers the entire softmod if there's 32MB or more free in C and it isn't aborted in time. (With less free, as was discussed, it clobbers the /C/xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder and contents).
Addendum: In the latter case (or if it's aborted in time), the tray-closed softmod boot remains operational and would be used to re-instate the open-tray retail boot (by deleting the resultant fonts.du and xboxdashdat.du folders then recovering the stock xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder from backup).
@kingroach: so it's not a glitch (it's by design); apologies. Hopefully it was "just a me thing" that others wont do ... but (if you haven't yet) maybe it would be worthwhile clarifing in the readme's "Patching C drive files" section?I tried the awesome "M$ dash conversion" feature; copied my 5960 (185ead00) to a folder, chose that folder name and it added the files into a sub-folder named C.
No worries: I then deleted that C folder, re-ran it, manually removed the '/C' it appended to the folder name and it worked as expected.
Suggestions:
1: could this particular aspect of the installer also create the shadowc.img (that would nearly fill the C-partition)* so that the user wouldn't subsequently be at risk of dashupdate.xbe clobbering it entirely (unless they decide not to ftp the shadowc.img over)?
2: I haven't checked, but if the virtualEEPROM isn't enabled already could it be (and pre-named) but not actually created, so that a "non-overwritable" virtualEEPROM results?
3: could the "retail" setup be the default (instead of the "basic") so the user must uncheck things if they decide not to have the settings required for that?
* It wasn't discussed in the original thread, but for the "retail" setup (with stock xboxdashdata.185ead00 and no fonts folder in C) dashupdate.xbe only clobbers the entire softmod if there's 32MB or more free in C and it isn't aborted in time. (With less free, as was discussed, it clobbers the /C/xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder and contents).
Addendum: In the latter case (or if it's aborted in time), the tray-closed softmod boot remains operational and would be used to re-instate the open-tray retail boot (by deleting the resultant fonts.du and xboxdashdat.du folders then recovering the stock xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder from backup).
(I was smarter with 1.5, first creating a folder named C and then browsing to its container folder.
)Thanks for implementing '1:', confirming '2:' and looking into '3:'.
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Btw, I suspect 1.5's shadowc/filler1.img is a too advanced for most to use correctly (without a spoon or hand-hold)...
Post by: RiceCake on June 23, 2005, 12:28:00 PM
Hehe, and I've been using boXplorer to basically kill my C drive by copying over files until it fails. 0 bytes free space every time
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Post by: eh. on June 23, 2005, 12:29:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 22 2005, 12:13 PM)
does dashupdate.xbe first delet C:/fonts and C:/xboxdashdat.xxx and then create xboxdashdat.du or It first creates xboxdashdat.du and then deletes previous dashboard..
I dont think there will be another update.. since Conker was last XBL punch and it didnt have any updates..
I don't know the sequence of those events; are you thinking there may be a way to prevent it creating the .du directories?I dont think there will be another update.. since Conker was last XBL punch and it didnt have any updates..
I think there will be another update (maybe for 360 coexistance).
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In case anyone's not aware, Live 1.0 dashupdate.xbe's aren't a concern for Ndure "retail" setups but the many Live 2.0 and 3.0 dashupdate.xbe's are (per versions 17e4cd00, 17f14d00, 185a6100 and especially 185ead00 currently).
Post by: Cio on June 23, 2005, 12:22:00 PM
xodash\media
xodash\update.xbe
are not needed to support the retail or modded boot state
However, it puzzles me if/how/when these files are called upon with XBL, since i cant see how they would be called upon (xonlinedash.xbe cant be booted)
Update.xbe, the xodash\media\content\savedgame\ folder(?) and the retail fonts provide content DL support..
xodash\audio would provide the chimes etc in game..(?)
But \xodash\media\[xbg/xbx] is only called upon by xonlinedash.xbe when booted from \xodash\ and it cant be booted from there! (hang due to hacked fonts)
If someone could clear up what files are needed for content DL support that would be nice.
And if the chimes from xodash\audio are used in game/normal M$ dash, cause if they are only used in xonlinedash.xbe there pointless to have.
Post by: anjilslaire on June 23, 2005, 01:14:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 23 2005, 11:02 AM)
Triggurnum is making a gamesave instaleer for Ndure.. But It wont contain the Pre-live fonts.. users need to ftp that..
I chaanged the download page and made it like triggurnums page and blackwars installer page.. so it should be much more easier to get the files now.
I chaanged the download page and made it like triggurnums page and blackwars installer page.. so it should be much more easier to get the files now.
Ah, just discovered, the source isn't properly viewable in Firefox 1.04. Was pulling my hair out until I gave IE a shot
Good work, just a heads up for the firefox users out there.
Post by: Cio on June 23, 2005, 12:42:00 PM
Since when does IE allow more info to be viewed then Firefox...
Anyway, i already pm'ed kingroach about the exact same thing (asked him to add a flag to remove the dot.TK frame blocking fire fox users to properly read the source)
Post by: kingroach on June 23, 2005, 01:38:00 PM
I will just change the link in my sig to : http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6qvmn/
thats the actual url which is hosted in my ISP so there is no ad or frame issues..
Post by: eh. on June 23, 2005, 01:10:00 PM
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@DaddyJ: although accessing C during retail mode could be done, any solution to the problem would ideally be pre-done (by the installer). I'm hoping someone reading this thread will potentially think of a way; only those that try to make progress can ever achieve that though, of course...
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@krayzie: your reply was partly an assist!
Post by: DaddyJ on June 23, 2005, 01:30:00 PM
I was only suggesting that in a perfectly un-moddified state, m$ kept there access to C down to a minimum.
I have a few ideas in my mind, but nothing set in stone....
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 23, 2005, 02:44:00 PM
QUOTE(eh. @ Jun 23 2005, 12:11 PM)
@ipodder2003: your "noob simulation" testing is excellent! (The first post was updated re. a new version being available, that implements ShadowC, so maybe try that next.)
Glad I was able to help
I'll give the shadow C a shot. For record, the way it got trashed was using the troubleshooter on Halo 2. I was just testing every possible Live feature, and that was the on that did it.Post by: kingroach on June 23, 2005, 06:11:00 PM
QUOTE
I don't know the sequence of those events; are you thinking there may be a way to prevent it creating the .du directories?
I was thinking if we already put the files that dashupdate.xbe in xboxdashdata.du foleder then what would happen.. does it have a overwrite function?..
Post by: Cio on June 24, 2005, 05:24:00 AM
I woke up with the thought of a backdoor in the "retail" M$ dash that leeds to a switcher (and will have to do a minimun of renaming/moving/deleting so dashupdate.xbe never gets a chance)
So that would seem like a second reason to not remove em anyway. Since i missed reason 1
.@kingroach
Yes (or their would be only one xboxdash.xbe i figure)
Post by: RiceCake on June 24, 2005, 10:11:00 AM
Since I know people will find some way to fuck that up.
Post by: wmxp on June 25, 2005, 06:59:00 PM
http://www.teamxecuter.com/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=19
Allows you to create a file on demand of a size you specify, in megabyte increments.
This tool is also ideal for building a blank shadowc.img file. Just mount the image with a compiled NKPatcher with Shadow C enabled, then simply format "The C drive" with your favourite app/dash.
Post by: JimmyGoon on June 26, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
is there any reason that I should use this?
why is ndure better. How does it differ... can you tell me more about how it works without going completly technical and memory access on me?
thanks
Post by: RiceCake on June 26, 2005, 02:07:00 PM
For the love of god don't think its somehow alot better than UXE!
All Ndure really offers is a helluva lot better support for coldbooting games (Eg, for Xbox Live).
Post by: JimmyGoon on June 26, 2005, 02:50:00 PM
QUOTE(RiceCake @ Jun 26 2005, 10:18 PM)
Don't switch to Ndure if UXE works for you.
For the love of god don't think its somehow alot better than UXE!
All Ndure really offers is a helluva lot better support for coldbooting games (Eg, for Xbox Live).
For the love of god don't think its somehow alot better than UXE!
All Ndure really offers is a helluva lot better support for coldbooting games (Eg, for Xbox Live).
How so? How is it different? Can't you pop the game in and play it before the xbox dash loads with UXE...
I'm actually interested in XBL now that they have got an update for Halo 2 that makes it not so bad..
Post by: COTA-GodlyOne on June 26, 2005, 05:33:00 PM
Post by: jonels on June 26, 2005, 07:58:00 PM
QUOTE(COTA-GodlyOne @ Jun 27 2005, 01:44 AM)
i get it all working fine, except for when i try to boot to evo-x, i get no screen and the led's go orange x| i boots perfect to non-modified though...
make a new folder with just the bare files from m$ dash 5960 ... then run the installer into it.... double check there is no fonts folder afterwards... then tranfer the lot to a blank c: partition on your xbox.. it should work perfectly then
Post by: kingroach on June 26, 2005, 07:27:00 PM
Post by: dumdasme on June 26, 2005, 07:29:00 PM
Post by: COTA-GodlyOne on June 27, 2005, 06:27:00 AM
QUOTE(jonels @ Jun 27 2005, 03:33 AM)
make a new folder with just the bare files from m$ dash 5960 ... then run the installer into it.... double check there is no fonts folder afterwards... then tranfer the lot to a blank c: partition on your xbox.. it should work perfectly then
i did put the m$ dash in when i was making the files, which is why the m$ dash works now. It didnt before (i fixed that before my first post).
i have a hack folder.....
Post by: clixo on June 27, 2005, 06:35:00 AM
QUOTE(COTA-GodlyOne @ Jun 27 2005, 01:44 AM)
i get it all working fine, except for when i try to boot to evo-x, i get no screen and the led's go orange x| i boots perfect to non-modified though...
same result here
cleaned c drive, patched a clean dash and transfered to c. tray open ok, tray closed orange led and black screan. tested with generic fonts and with kernel fonts with same result . xbox version 1.3/4
Post by: COTA-GodlyOne on June 27, 2005, 11:31:00 AM
v1.6 with 5713 kernal.
Post by: JimmyGoon on June 27, 2005, 12:40:00 PM
QUOTE(JimmyGoon @ Jun 26 2005, 10:25 PM)
How so? How is it different? Can't you pop the game in and play it before the xbox dash loads with UXE...
I'm actually interested in XBL now that they have got an update for Halo 2 that makes it not so bad..
I'm actually interested in XBL now that they have got an update for Halo 2 that makes it not so bad..
I'll ask it again... since my question wasn't answered...
also... how is something easier to cold boot??
How do you improve on shutting off the xbox and rebooting it with the game in the drive :?
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 27, 2005, 02:57:00 PM
When you power on the xbox with the eject button, you get access to a retail dashboard. Therefore, you can pop in the game at that point and close the tray with no worries. That's the upside of this hack compared to UXE, but if UXE is working for you, then don't worry about this. Ndure is a little safer for live, though.
Post by: JimmyGoon on June 27, 2005, 04:16:00 PM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Jun 27 2005, 11:08 PM)
You should probably read the readme...
When you power on the xbox with the eject button, you get access to a retail dashboard. Therefore, you can pop in the game at that point and close the tray with no worries. That's the upside of this hack compared to UXE, but if UXE is working for you, then don't worry about this. Ndure is a little safer for live, though.
When you power on the xbox with the eject button, you get access to a retail dashboard. Therefore, you can pop in the game at that point and close the tray with no worries. That's the upside of this hack compared to UXE, but if UXE is working for you, then don't worry about this. Ndure is a little safer for live, though.
thanks ipodder2003, normally I would read the readme but its a bitch to go you know where just to read a readme.
I think I'm gonna try this out and I might think about renewing XBL... hmm
thanks
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 27, 2005, 04:26:00 PM
Post by: JimmyGoon on June 27, 2005, 05:24:00 PM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Jun 28 2005, 12:37 AM)
It's definitely worth playing around with for XBL, if you're experienced with UXE, which it seems like you are. I just started a live trial for a test a week ago or so and I'm still not banned.
ok. I will try too... but tell me... do I need to worry about the modded files on the HD or perhaps the size of the HD?
it is of course locked... lol... softmods
Post by: ipodder2003 on June 27, 2005, 08:16:00 PM
Post by: JimmyGoon on June 28, 2005, 09:12:00 AM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Jun 28 2005, 04:27 AM)
Yeah, you need to wipe your C completely, but it tells you how to do it. Make sure you have a way back into the xbox with an exploitable game or similar.
muchos gracious.
I'll try to work on it today!
Post by: Cio on June 28, 2005, 09:44:00 AM
You can go on live by powering on with the eject button (this boots in "retail" mode, it boots the tray state detector and then removes the habibi sig from the kernel, returing it to fully stock BIOS)
Ofcourse you need to get XBL dash access first to add the account (return to stock) and if you upgraded your HD after you went on live, you will need a new eeprom (or use the stock HD)
Post by: krayzie on June 28, 2005, 09:56:00 AM
Edit: after taking a shower and regaining my common sense I came to the conclusion that this simply can be explained that the live tab triggers the xonlinedash.xbe which then wants to load the xboxdash.xbe since it wants to report that something is wrong. (or something like that)
Well whatever it still is a nice feature.
Post by: JimmyGoon on June 28, 2005, 10:04:00 AM
Whats the story with the dashboard on the C: drive.
When and where do I need to worry about dash updates on being able to preserve the mod AND access to XBL.
This is confusing for me because I'm already modded.
What is the order for getting the mod to work with XBL"
IS it:?
1) Wipe C: drive
2) boot SC... FTP files
3) Set up XBL account?
4) Boot up with the eject button?
????
also... whats the story with "redoing the C: shadow"
if I change files on the C: drive (ie: change Dashboard) I hate to RERUN the Ndure installer on that folder...
it seems like a lot of work... :s or maybe I'm confused
Post by: eh. on June 28, 2005, 11:05:00 AM
@COTA-GodlyOne & clixo: I've tried 1.5 on my box now and am experiencing the same issue (which I suspect is ShadowC related)...
Post by: kingroach on June 28, 2005, 10:51:00 AM
Post by: COTA-GodlyOne on June 28, 2005, 12:24:00 PM
QUOTE(eh. @ Jun 28 2005, 06:40 PM)
(@krayzie: that's what caxtor reported in the relevant thread. I believed it to be due to a different reason, but you could be right ... it's difficult to be certain exactly how it's integrating. Edit: I don't concur with your post edit's "simple explanation" though.)
@COTA-GodlyOne & clixo: I've tried 1.5 on my box now and am experiencing the same issue (which I suspect is ShadowC related)...
@COTA-GodlyOne & clixo: I've tried 1.5 on my box now and am experiencing the same issue (which I suspect is ShadowC related)...
i was hoping i wasnt a moron =/
Post by: eh. on June 28, 2005, 12:48:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on June 28, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
Post by: COTA-GodlyOne on June 28, 2005, 06:42:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on June 28, 2005, 06:45:00 PM
Post by: moviecut on June 29, 2005, 12:34:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 28 2005, 07:02 PM)
It seems like theres a problem loading shadowc from C drive.. its has been moved to E drive again..
hmm, i didn`t install the ndure yet, but for what i see, after unpacking the installer, there is only a folder "c" but no folder "e". when will the shadow c be created on the e-drive then?? after first boot?
Post by: moviecut on June 29, 2005, 04:59:00 AM
with uxe it was always possible to go in dualboot-mode directly (without exploiteable game), if the dashboard was fuc**d up or something like that. for what i understand in ndure you must have this game to load the gamesave installer-menu. is that right? i think, this is a dissadvantage to uxe! i only lend me the game for doing the softmod. with ndure i should always have that game in order to get my xbox back working when something went wrong (of course the chances that something went wrong is minimal, i know)
am i right?
Post by: COTA-GodlyOne on June 29, 2005, 05:12:00 AM
just wondering what all the fillers are for? i deleted them cause i needed the room, except for #2 that is.
Post by: clixo on June 29, 2005, 06:38:00 AM
QUOTE(COTA-GodlyOne @ Jun 29 2005, 01:23 PM)
Installed and worked perfect, <3
just wondering what all the fillers are for? i deleted them cause i needed the room, except for #2 that is.
just wondering what all the fillers are for? i deleted them cause i needed the room, except for #2 that is.
the filler is for avoiding the dash to be updated , if no room available the xbox will not update the dash . afaik
Post by: eh. on June 29, 2005, 07:02:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 28 2005, 11:02 AM - part)
It seems like theres a problem loading shadowc from C drive.. its has been moved to E drive again..
Was this just a temporary reversion (to get 1.5's softmod boot working)?
Post by: kingroach on June 29, 2005, 08:11:00 AM
QUOTE
%ifndef CONFIG_INC
%define CONFIG_INC
;;; Configuration for nkpatcher 10
%define DASHBOARD_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\hack\dash\default.xbe'
%define EJECT_FIX
%define GAME_REGION_AUTO
%ifdef GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define GAME_REGION_PRIMARY 1
%define GAME_REGION_SECONDARY 4
%define GAME_REGION_TERTIARY 2
%endif ; GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define IGR
%define IGR_TO_DASHBOARD
%define XBL_BLOCK
%define VIRTUAL_C_DRIVE 2
%define VIRTUAL_C_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\shadowc\shadowc.img'
%define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
%define LBA48
%define PARTITION_METHOD 1
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\shadowc\eeprom.bin'
%define DISABLE_VIRTUAL_EEPROM_WRITE
%define NORMAL_BOOT_ALWAYS
%endif ; CONFIG_INC
%define CONFIG_INC
;;; Configuration for nkpatcher 10
%define DASHBOARD_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\hack\dash\default.xbe'
%define EJECT_FIX
%define GAME_REGION_AUTO
%ifdef GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define GAME_REGION_PRIMARY 1
%define GAME_REGION_SECONDARY 4
%define GAME_REGION_TERTIARY 2
%endif ; GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define IGR
%define IGR_TO_DASHBOARD
%define XBL_BLOCK
%define VIRTUAL_C_DRIVE 2
%define VIRTUAL_C_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\shadowc\shadowc.img'
%define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
%define LBA48
%define PARTITION_METHOD 1
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\shadowc\eeprom.bin'
%define DISABLE_VIRTUAL_EEPROM_WRITE
%define NORMAL_BOOT_ALWAYS
%endif ; CONFIG_INC
Post by: krayzie on June 29, 2005, 09:10:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 29 2005, 03:46 PM)
%define VIRTUAL_C_DRIVE 2
%define VIRTUAL_C_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\shadowc\shadowc.img'
%define VIRTUAL_C_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\shadowc\shadowc.img'
When loading the img of the C drive nkpatcher needs to be set up like:
QUOTE
%define VIRTUAL_C_DRIVE 2
%define ACTUAL_C_DRIVE 8
%define VIRTUAL_C_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\shadowc.img'
%define ACTUAL_C_DRIVE 8
%define VIRTUAL_C_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\shadowc.img'
this is because it then creates a (fake) partition (which mirrors the C partition)where the img is loaded from and the shadowc doesn't conflict with itself..
Post by: eh. on June 30, 2005, 11:15:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 29 2005, 07:46 AM - part)
I am planning next version to include that "moving fonts to xodash\fonts" feature..
That's excellent news; thanks dude. Maybe you could include the toggle feature in the dash's .ini file too? (Btw, it's fonts0 [a zero's appended] as per http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act=ST&f=45&t=263586&view=findpost&p=2725930).@krayzie: with the above settings, including the two updates, where will it look for the dashboard? Also, I personally wouldn't configure the `%define DISABLE_VIRTUAL_EEPROM_WRITE`, as it will default to that anyway (and if a user subsequently wants it to be over-writable, they just need to put their eeprom.bin file in place)...
Post by: Cio on June 30, 2005, 11:23:00 AM
like
CODE
%define DASHBOARD_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition1\dashboard\default.xbe'
ohwk lol i just wanted to post some code aswell.. but you get the point, a dashboard on the virtual C seems unpractical to me (cant place it if you dont boot thru NKpatcher)
Post by: The Silent Servant on June 30, 2005, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: total_ass on July 01, 2005, 08:02:00 AM
QUOTE(eh. @ Jun 30 2005, 05:50 PM)
@krayzie: with the above settings, including the two updates, where will it look for the dashboard? Also, I personally wouldn't configure the `%define DISABLE_VIRTUAL_EEPROM_WRITE`, as it will default to that anyway (and if a user subsequently wants it to be over-writable, they just need to put their eeprom.bin file in place)...
ok i'm not krayzie but perhaps i can answer.
i believe nkpatcher would look for the dash on the virtual c drive as this becomes partition 2 once mounted. the real c becomes partition 8. the dash is loaded after the mounting and redefining occurs so afaik it will look on the shadow c.
ok i've only just started reading about this ndure, am i correct in assuming that the memory layout bug doesn't occur with ndure only when using kernel specific fonts? would generic fonts would be virtually the same as uxe as far as memory issues go?
Post by: eh. on July 01, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
(Consequently even the generic Ndure "basic" setup that's in this installer provides a better softmod foundation than UXE based setups do.
)@anyone that knows for sure: would this be the config resulting from the above updates (re. everything on real-C)?
CODE
%ifndef CONFIG_INC
%define CONFIG_INC
;;; Configuration for nkpatcher 10
%define DASHBOARD_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\hack\dash\default.xbe'
%define EJECT_FIX
%define GAME_REGION_AUTO
%ifdef GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define GAME_REGION_PRIMARY 1
%define GAME_REGION_SECONDARY 4
%define GAME_REGION_TERTIARY 2
%endif; GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define IGR
%define IGR_TO_DASHBOARD
%define XBL_BLOCK
%define VIRTUAL_C_DRIVE 2
%define ACTUAL_C_DRIVE 8
%define VIRTUAL_C_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\shadowc\shadowc.img'
%define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
%define LBA48
%define PARTITION_METHOD 1
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\shadowc\eeprom.bin'
%define NORMAL_BOOT_ALWAYS
%endif; CONFIG_INC
%define CONFIG_INC
;;; Configuration for nkpatcher 10
%define DASHBOARD_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\hack\dash\default.xbe'
%define EJECT_FIX
%define GAME_REGION_AUTO
%ifdef GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define GAME_REGION_PRIMARY 1
%define GAME_REGION_SECONDARY 4
%define GAME_REGION_TERTIARY 2
%endif; GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define IGR
%define IGR_TO_DASHBOARD
%define XBL_BLOCK
%define VIRTUAL_C_DRIVE 2
%define ACTUAL_C_DRIVE 8
%define VIRTUAL_C_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\shadowc\shadowc.img'
%define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
%define LBA48
%define PARTITION_METHOD 1
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\shadowc\eeprom.bin'
%define NORMAL_BOOT_ALWAYS
%endif; CONFIG_INC
Post by: total_ass on July 01, 2005, 11:16:00 AM
as far as that code goes that looks correct. however iirc many dashes have issues running from within partition8, so that is another factor to take into consideration. as Cio mentioned it would be wiser and easier to have it booting off of partition1 (E drive).
providing that nkp is configured to boot dvd prior to dash this would still result in a pretty fool-proof setup.
Post by: Cio on July 01, 2005, 12:26:00 PM
QUOTE(moviecut @ Jun 29 2005, 01:10 PM)
one other question:
with uxe it was always possible to go in dualboot-mode directly (without exploiteable game), if the dashboard was fuc**d up or something like that. for what i understand in ndure you must have this game to load the gamesave installer-menu. is that right? i think, this is a dissadvantage to uxe! i only lend me the game for doing the softmod. with ndure i should always have that game in order to get my xbox back working when something went wrong (of course the chances that something went wrong is minimal, i know)
am i right?
with uxe it was always possible to go in dualboot-mode directly (without exploiteable game), if the dashboard was fuc**d up or something like that. for what i understand in ndure you must have this game to load the gamesave installer-menu. is that right? i think, this is a dissadvantage to uxe! i only lend me the game for doing the softmod. with ndure i should always have that game in order to get my xbox back working when something went wrong (of course the chances that something went wrong is minimal, i know)
am i right?
Dual boot and coldboot is a VERY big difference. You seem to misunderstand the point. With UXE, you coudn't access ANY part of the M$dash in unmodded state (only coldboot games, no XBL update/content support)
With the ndure retail setup, you can boot the xbox without a game in the tray and STILL get a retail kernel (So you can go on XBL). You cant access the XBL console though, thats what the rename is for.
If your really scared bout fucking up.. you could even get the Ndure retail setup and then apply EEE (allowing you to get to a modded state manually from the "retail" mode) Meaning retail mode with a backdoor and a fully modded state.
However, both EEE and Ndure are based on XBL console exploits, so they neither allow (full) XBL console access (AFAIK)
Post by: total_ass on July 01, 2005, 02:40:00 PM
Post by: Cio on July 01, 2005, 03:36:00 PM
Just try to keep less then 1 MB and you should be fine.
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 01, 2005, 05:20:00 PM
Post by: Cio on July 02, 2005, 03:34:00 AM
Post by: total_ass on July 02, 2005, 03:42:00 AM
Post by: Cio on July 02, 2005, 03:44:00 AM
Update.xbe (used for all XBL downloads) needs the retail fonts
Post by: eh. on July 02, 2005, 12:57:00 PM
@ipodder2003: I think that would definitely be worth doing with the current Ndure Installer 1.5 retail setup, since it might help some folks become aware of what can actually happen (as my various posts about it don't seem to have achieved that level of understanding)!
@total_ass & Cio: this installer pre-allocates the space so that folks don't need to concern themselves with that. However, re. the "retail" setup, I posted additional info. earlier in this thread. (FWIW: Ndure's "starter" setup can have any amount of free space and an optimal "fonts" setup would have less than 1.3 megs free ... this installer doesn't facilitate those setups though; they are defined in the original thread.)
Warning: the current Ndure Installer 1.5's shadowc.img implementation only works if the 'hack' directory and contents are already in it! Closed-tray boots that currently work without that are not using ShadowC...
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 02, 2005, 10:27:00 PM
Post by: planescapeman on July 02, 2005, 11:41:00 PM
Post by: COTA-GodlyOne on July 02, 2005, 11:45:00 PM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Jul 3 2005, 06:38 AM)
Ok guys, this is interesting. I ran the troubleshooter on Halo 2 on purpose, and it tried to mess with my drive again. My C drive is Ndure with retail setup, and filled with a big bin file and some little files to fill the drive all the way up with .01 kb free. The update progressed a little bit and then said it failed. I thought, oh sweet, no problem. Wrong. Modded state worked fine, but retail had an error. I FTP'd onto the xbox and nothing seemed to be changed. I just copied over the backup I had and that fixed it. I looked at the filesizes of the dash files though, and nothing was changed. Pretty weird.
probally only a few bits that changed. What was the error?
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 02, 2005, 11:56:00 PM
Post by: garyopa on July 03, 2005, 10:20:00 PM
containing the "Ndure" installer.
First off, the "ernie" file is 444 bytes long, some versions are 466 bytes
long, but from my testing the "433" byte version works the best.
Second the "path" setup in your compiled "ernie" file is wrong. You
have the "default.xbe" loading from the "HACK" directory, but the
"path" will always crash because of the format.
Currently "ernie" has this format:
'\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2;hack\default.xbe'
Which does NOT work, it should be:
'\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\hack;default.xbe'
Notice, the CORRECT placement of the last SLASH, if loading files
from a directory, the last SLASH needs to be on the left side of
the ; which divides the FILENAME part from the PATHNAME part.
---------------
Otherwise except for this SMALL BUG which recently appeared in
the most recent posting, your installer is one SWEET BABY.
Post by: RiceCake on July 03, 2005, 11:38:00 PM
All that crap added to the launch string adds size to the ernie file, people! I have no idea if I'm missing the point but isn't '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2;default.xbe' shorter than '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\exploit\boot1;patcher.xbe'?
And yes, or at least according to DaddyJ, ''\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\hack;default.xbe'' is correct.
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 04, 2005, 12:32:00 AM
Post by: Cio on July 04, 2005, 05:05:00 AM
Post by: RiceCake on July 04, 2005, 01:12:00 PM
Handy for coldbooting.
Post by: garyopa on July 04, 2005, 10:58:00 PM
QUOTE(RiceCake @ Jul 4 2005, 01:49 AM)
Lol, different sized ernie files? My ernie file clocks in at 452 bytes long!
All that crap added to the launch string adds size to the ernie file, people! I have no idea if I'm missing the point but isn't '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2;default.xbe' shorter than '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\exploit\boot1;patcher.xbe'?
And yes, or at least according to DaddyJ, ''\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\hack;default.xbe'' is correct.
All that crap added to the launch string adds size to the ernie file, people! I have no idea if I'm missing the point but isn't '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2;default.xbe' shorter than '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\exploit\boot1;patcher.xbe'?
And yes, or at least according to DaddyJ, ''\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\hack;default.xbe'' is correct.
I hope "kingroach" fixes the "ernie" file is his installer, as just like I stated
in my message, and "DaddyJ" also stated, the correct path needs to be:
\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\hack;default.xbe
For everything to load correctly.
File size of the ernie file only seems to matter on some boxes, but I for
sure find the ones which are the original UEEE length of "433" bytes work
the best, and there is still enough padding to the pathname to add sub-
folders for the "nkpatcher" or "closed-retail" files.
Post by: kingroach on July 05, 2005, 07:25:00 AM
Post by: eh. on July 05, 2005, 08:57:00 AM
QUOTE(eh. @ Jul 1 2005, 11:17 AM - part)
CODE
%ifndef CONFIG_INC
%define CONFIG_INC
;;; Configuration for nkpatcher 10
%define DASHBOARD_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\hack\dash\default.xbe'
%define EJECT_FIX
%define GAME_REGION_AUTO
%ifdef GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define GAME_REGION_PRIMARY 1
%define GAME_REGION_SECONDARY 4
%define GAME_REGION_TERTIARY 2
%endif; GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define IGR
%define IGR_TO_DASHBOARD
%define XBL_BLOCK
%define VIRTUAL_C_DRIVE 2
%define ACTUAL_C_DRIVE 8
%define VIRTUAL_C_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\shadowc\shadowc.img'
%define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
%define LBA48
%define PARTITION_METHOD 1
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\shadowc\eeprom.bin'
%define NORMAL_BOOT_ALWAYS
%endif; CONFIG_INC
%define CONFIG_INC
;;; Configuration for nkpatcher 10
%define DASHBOARD_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\hack\dash\default.xbe'
%define EJECT_FIX
%define GAME_REGION_AUTO
%ifdef GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define GAME_REGION_PRIMARY 1
%define GAME_REGION_SECONDARY 4
%define GAME_REGION_TERTIARY 2
%endif; GAME_REGION_AUTO
%define IGR
%define IGR_TO_DASHBOARD
%define XBL_BLOCK
%define VIRTUAL_C_DRIVE 2
%define ACTUAL_C_DRIVE 8
%define VIRTUAL_C_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\shadowc\shadowc.img'
%define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
%define LBA48
%define PARTITION_METHOD 1
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM
%define VIRTUAL_EEPROM_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition8\shadowc\eeprom.bin'
%define NORMAL_BOOT_ALWAYS
%endif; CONFIG_INC
@kingroach: I've done some testing with this config and it worked "as originally intended" with the first release of 1.5. The current 1.5 doesn't have a shadowc (folder or file) in real-C ... will you be putting that back?
Post by: kingroach on July 05, 2005, 09:04:00 AM
Post by: Cio on July 05, 2005, 09:38:00 AM
@kingroach: You going for 1.6 next? Cause if not, i would like to be sure i have DLed the latest package so i can mirror it.
Post by: kingroach on July 05, 2005, 12:44:00 PM
Post by: moviecut on July 05, 2005, 01:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Cio @ Jul 5 2005, 05:49 PM)
Due to the small amount of ppl who have HD's bigger then 250 GB, most installers use the F only option AFAIK. I dont have anything with G support here, or at least to configured to use it.
yes, i whould also like to see the .06 nkpatcher or, even better, an option to choose one of it ( with noob-explaination in this step of the installer.)
another thing i whould prefer is changing the hack-path to e:/dashboard. with this the filler-files could always stay as they are, even if a big dashboard (e.g. xbmc) is used. maybe the installer should make 2 folders, c and e!
Post by: clixo on July 05, 2005, 03:30:00 PM
version 1.5.1
method :
3. Patching C drive files:
dash : (5960.01 V. 185EAD00) kernel 5101
result with tray closed : OK
result with tray open : error 21 with frag
Post by: kingroach on July 05, 2005, 05:16:00 PM
Post by: DaddyJ on July 05, 2005, 06:28:00 PM
Oh well.
Post by: jonels on July 06, 2005, 03:40:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jul 6 2005, 01:27 AM)
I saw some people with frag with tray open.. I dont undertsand why it should frag.. I mean tray close evox boot means that closed-retail and nkpatcher is working.. but when tray open, closed-retail just launches msxboxdash.xbe and with fonts in C:\ it should boot..
I would think that it's more likely they have not followed instructions properly, there was a thread yesterday where somebody was getting an open/21 and it turned out they only had the 2 .xtf files in the XODASH folder.
Maybe it would be an idea to let the installer do everything as I would be suprised if everthing isn't copied via ftp alphebetically anyway.
Post by: clixo on July 06, 2005, 06:21:00 AM
QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Jul 6 2005, 02:03 AM)
is it suppose to load a m$ dash upon tray open booting>? many people have problems with the m$ dash fragging into Error 21, I usually only experience this if the Language isnt set, which should be handled???
Oh well.
Oh well.
this might be true ! the dash was a clean virgen dash, so no language or clock was set since it was NOT from a working xbox ! was from slayers, then no time or language ! ... ( dumb me
) i will test it today afternoon and will report back
Post by: moviecut on July 06, 2005, 06:21:00 AM
Post by: Detrimantix on July 06, 2005, 03:53:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on July 06, 2005, 08:22:00 PM
Post by: moviecut on July 07, 2005, 01:20:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jul 7 2005, 04:33 AM)
may be its because of the shadowc.. shadowc loads from C but dashboard is still in C drive so it creates conflict since unleashx tries to save settings.. it finds nothing in shadowc.. a possible fix would be disabling the shadowc file.. ( loading PBL metoo as app, renaming the shadowc)..
but why isn`t there any of this problems in krayzies or triggernum5s UXE-installers? because they have shadowc on e? then please move it back!
Post by: eh. on July 07, 2005, 09:03:00 AM
(If anyone wants to activate it for 1.51, create a /C/shadowc/ directory and move the /C/filler/shadowc.img into it!)
@kingroach: also, 1.51 still seems to include the '%define DISABLE_VIRTUAL_EEPROM_WRITE'; as per this
(arrowed post) that means the install's being unnecessarily inflexible and limited in this regard... (There's some related info. in the config.inc that rmenhal included with nkpatcher10.)
Post by: kingroach on July 07, 2005, 08:04:00 PM
CODE
default mode is Full retail install with optional minimum and custom install
default nkpatcher.06 bios with optional nkpatcher.67
use unleashx as dash instead of evox
bios and dashboard in E:\ drive ( E:\bios and E:\dash)
Removed '%define DISABLE_VIRTUAL_EEPROM_WRITE'
in earnie.xtf used "harddisk0/partition1/bios:default.xbe" format insetad of "harddisk0/partition1:bios/default.xbe" format.
Shadowc and virtual eeprom loads from C:\shadowc\ folder.
default nkpatcher.06 bios with optional nkpatcher.67
use unleashx as dash instead of evox
bios and dashboard in E:\ drive ( E:\bios and E:\dash)
Removed '%define DISABLE_VIRTUAL_EEPROM_WRITE'
in earnie.xtf used "harddisk0/partition1/bios:default.xbe" format insetad of "harddisk0/partition1:bios/default.xbe" format.
Shadowc and virtual eeprom loads from C:\shadowc\ folder.
Post by: moviecut on July 08, 2005, 03:12:00 AM
Post by: BigSteel on July 10, 2005, 09:54:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on July 10, 2005, 10:06:00 PM
Post by: BigSteel on July 10, 2005, 10:46:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 11, 2005, 12:38:00 AM
Post by: Boooooommm on July 11, 2005, 02:55:00 AM
*Edit* Ok, nvm... I just understood the whole shadowc deal. lol Sorry about the stupid question.
Post by: BigSteel on July 11, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on July 12, 2005, 11:04:00 AM
Ndure setup has been changed a bit after this post:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=2760162
Ndure doesnt need any pre-live fonts.. may be now we can see soem gamesave installers from gamesave experts..
Here is the changes in the Ndure installer 2.0:
-Uses unleashx as dashboard
-Dashboard now in E:\dash\
-Uses nkpatcher.06 by default..
-Unleashx contains command to turn on/off Ndure
-Gamesave loader. If for any reason your C drive gets messed then this gamesave will directly boot you unleashx dash. This can be helpful if you want to use turn on/off Ndure for full live access with xonlinedash.xbe. The gamesvae loader is partially ripped from krazye installer ( without permission..
, will take later)..- Shadowc in C:\shadowc folder
-Removed "disable virtual eeprom entry"..
-You can use nkpatcher.67 if you want.
-The installer will remove settings_adoc.xip if you want to patch C drive folders.
-Retail setup is enabled by default.
-You wont need to manually delete "C" folder from destination path if you are patching..
-The installer is only 3.7Mb now.
you can get the installer from the same place you get current ndure installer..Hope someone tests the gamesave loader saves since I dont have the games..
hmm imageshack is banned fro some reason..
Post by: eh. on July 12, 2005, 02:30:00 PM
Thank you, tHaNk YoU, THANK YOU for creating it for us!!
_______
@BigSteel: SFAIA, Ndure works correctly with all of the many settings folks have tried (even with generic fonts).
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 12, 2005, 04:30:00 PM
Glad to see these awesome improvements. You've made this an awesome mod, kingroach.
Post by: DaddyJ on July 12, 2005, 05:11:00 PM
Post by: shadow23 on July 13, 2005, 02:28:00 AM
QUOTE(RiceCake @ Jun 21 2005, 05:03 AM)
Looks like krayzie beat me to the line.
Either way, I'm kinda leaning to krayzie's side on this situation.
Edit: Your signature also contains an indirect link to copywritten files, unfortunately, since xboxhelp.tk has your Ndure installer directly avaliable.
Either way, I'm kinda leaning to krayzie's side on this situation.
Edit: Your signature also contains an indirect link to copywritten files, unfortunately, since xboxhelp.tk has your Ndure installer directly avaliable.
I went xboxhelp.tk and I can't find it there. I'm not asking for NDure but I just want to say that I can't see it in xboxhelp.tk and there's no direct links to the file. So what is the big fuss? Sorry for being ignorant.
Cheers
Post by: DeamosSeraph on July 13, 2005, 07:28:00 AM
Also even with all full options for XbLive selected, I can't seem to log on when its in the open tray state. The MS Dash keeps complaining that there is a problem with the connection and wants me to use the troubleshooter. This was not a problem with the last version of the installer as it worked flawlessly.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks ahead of time and thanks to kingroach for the awesome installer.
Post by: moviecut on July 13, 2005, 08:53:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on July 13, 2005, 11:02:00 AM
Post by: BigSteel on July 13, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
QUOTE(krayzie @ Jul 13 2005, 07:13 PM)
So hopefully then I can find some time to make some adjustements and turn my UXE installer into an Ndure Installer.
Just what I, and I am sure others, were hoping to hear
. Keep us posted on the progress.Post by: moviecut on July 13, 2005, 03:10:00 PM
1. i put the 5960 dash on c:
2. i delete xboxdashdata.185ead00/settings_adoc.xip and the fonts folder
3. i copy the files from the c-folder i made with the installer to my c-drive (make shure to copy the fonts in the right order!!)
4. i copy the files from the e-folder to my e-drive.
5. done!
is that right?
Post by: garyopa on July 13, 2005, 02:47:00 PM
I don't know why we delete the "settings_adoc.xip",
as it only gets called by the "EggsBox" trick.
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 13, 2005, 05:31:00 PM
I'm still doing the tutorial though. Look for it by the end of the night, maybe.
Post by: kingroach on July 13, 2005, 05:59:00 PM
. Then I gave up... I could post the .xml if anyone wants..
Post by: remedee on July 14, 2005, 12:03:00 AM
) Anyway, I might be able to narrow it down for you and see if we can come up with a nice little mem card installer. PM me if you have any questions
Post by: Kyro on July 14, 2005, 12:28:00 AM
am i the only one thinking that it would be better to have the xbox :
- boot up to retail mode by turning it on with power button
- boot up and trigger the exploit by using the eject button
i find it more convenient so if u want to have a look :
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=2742066
(becareful, i skipped the led color routine, but play with the src if u want to add it again)
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 14, 2005, 12:38:00 AM
Post by: moviecut on July 14, 2005, 03:23:00 AM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Jul 14 2005, 08:49 AM)
It makes more sense to me to have it the way it is. I would have to eject anyway to put in my original to play on Live.
makes more sense to me, too. i also find it more comfortable to have unleashx being the "standard-dash" after modding.
Post by: moviecut on July 14, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
1. the option "use gamesave loader" only creates some files for booting e:/dash/default.xbe over a gamesave. but what if the user kills that folder? i whould find it more secure to have an own unleashx.xbe in the gamesave-folder like it is in all gamesave-installers.
2. i read in some tutorial, that i have to delete the fonts-folder, if there is one present and some other tutorial also tells me to delete settings_adoc.xip!
without deleting this i can`t transfer completly the ndure folder i created (stucks at the shadowc.xbe) to my c-drive! is there a space problem? hmmm...
3. is the multi bootpath feature allready in the installer or can it be done? whould help to make the hole thing even better.
4. what is this tri-boot feature a read about? has it something to do with ndure?
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 14, 2005, 09:27:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on July 14, 2005, 10:20:00 AM
it was believed that fonts folder creates conflicts with xonlinedash.xbe.. that being proven false, there is no need to deleet fonts folder and thats why you dont need any pre-live fonts..you only needs to delete settings_adoc.xip..
-it dont have any dual-boot or tri boot feature.. I ddint see any mods for Nkpatcher allows you to do that..
Post by: garyopa on July 14, 2005, 12:31:00 PM
for "dual-boot" and "dual-led" status.
But it does not unpatch the key when loading the MS dash.
Search for nk10+supa (file named 6557039).
Maybe you can add the "unpatching key" code from
"closed-retail.asm" to this source, allowing for just
one "SUPER" NKPATCHER program for everything.
Post by: krayzie on July 14, 2005, 02:54:00 PM
QUOTE(garyopa @ Jul 14 2005, 08:42 PM)
There is one "mod" done to NKPATCHER, which allows
for "dual-boot" and "dual-led" status.
But it does not unpatch the key when loading the MS dash.
Search for nk10+supa (file named 6557039).
Maybe you can add the "unpatching key" code from
"closed-retail.asm" to this source, allowing for just
one "SUPER" NKPATCHER program for everything.
for "dual-boot" and "dual-led" status.
But it does not unpatch the key when loading the MS dash.
Search for nk10+supa (file named 6557039).
Maybe you can add the "unpatching key" code from
"closed-retail.asm" to this source, allowing for just
one "SUPER" NKPATCHER program for everything.
The nkpatcher changes so many things in the kernel thet it would be much harder to unpatch. The kernel unpatcher works much more effectively straight after the fonts patch like the current closed retail.xbe
Post by: dumdasme on July 14, 2005, 09:46:00 PM
Post by: Cio on July 15, 2005, 04:38:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jul 14 2005, 02:10 AM)
Thnx for everyone for testing teh beta.. I actually made one gamesave installer with basic+retail setup plus shadowc and other stuffs.. but it gives error halfway. . Then I gave up... I could post the .xml if anyone wants..
. Then I gave up... I could post the .xml if anyone wants..Ill update my mirrors for your installer ASAP. I already made NDure installers as soon as i figured out the basic setup but ofcourse they dont contain any real features (same as UXE).
I did find a way to implement Ndure retail fast if i needed, using a boot CD and that same gamesave installer. No offense but i dont see a need for complex setups etc.
If anyone feels like improving on my work, you should be able to find the CD/gamesave with my sig.
Post by: kingroach on July 15, 2005, 05:13:00 PM
@dumdasme, didnt noticed that.. fixed now..
@CIO..
Post by: Cio on July 17, 2005, 08:04:00 AM
Full blown softmod compiler
Edit: Ill add your "installer" to my ususal place aswell, keep forgetting to do that!
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 17, 2005, 02:57:00 PM
QUOTE(Cio @ Jul 17 2005, 08:39 AM)
maybe a silly request but how about an option to include avalaunch as dash and a custom NKpatcher/PBL/Xromwell, maybe even habibi sign it on the fly?
Full blown softmod compiler
Edit: Ill add your "installer" to my ususal place aswell, keep forgetting to do that!
Full blown softmod compiler
Edit: Ill add your "installer" to my ususal place aswell, keep forgetting to do that!
I don't really see how having Avalaunch included is necessary. It would create a larger file, only to help a small userbase that wants to use Avalaunch. A custom PBL is entirely not necessary for this installer, as it's only useful to expose the real C if editing is needed. The only thing I see there that would be of any use whatsoever is a custom nkp, but any user can do that on their own, as the included nkp works well for new users as is.
Post by: Cio on July 18, 2005, 04:30:00 AM
So an option for "select custom bootloader" that brings you to a browse screen, selecting the XBE will make it take the place of NKpatcher (and habibi signs it while adding)
I dont like unleasx, ill use my own NKP. Get it? Select an NKpatcher, make dash optional and add an app that fills the drive with the shadowc image (this requires the dash/bootloader options)
I'm not saying include it but make it optional.
Post by: kingroach on July 18, 2005, 08:24:00 AM
PBL is already there in a form of gamesave..it has PBL Metoo inside..
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 18, 2005, 12:42:00 PM
QUOTE(Cio @ Jul 18 2005, 05:41 AM)
Ehm i kinda meant that you should be able to no include a dash and select a custom habibi signed XBE to run.
So an option for "select custom bootloader" that brings you to a browse screen, selecting the XBE will make it take the place of NKpatcher (and habibi signs it while adding)
I dont like unleasx, ill use my own NKP. Get it? Select an NKpatcher, make dash optional and add an app that fills the drive with the shadowc image (this requires the dash/bootloader options)
I'm not saying include it but make it optional.
So an option for "select custom bootloader" that brings you to a browse screen, selecting the XBE will make it take the place of NKpatcher (and habibi signs it while adding)
I dont like unleasx, ill use my own NKP. Get it? Select an NKpatcher, make dash optional and add an app that fills the drive with the shadowc image (this requires the dash/bootloader options)
I'm not saying include it but make it optional.
Sure, you could definitely do that, if you wanted your chance of having a functional xbox to go far, far downhill. You've got to have the paths set right in your xbe for your dash and you couldn't do that without compiling separately yourself. If you made it that far, hopefully you can handle habibi signing without an app to baby step you through it
Unless you mean having the source and compilation utils for every bios loader built into the installer, which I guess could be kind of cool, but kingroach says that won't work.And yes, I "get it," trust me. No need to start a flame war, we're all for the same goal here.
Post by: Cio on July 18, 2005, 01:52:00 PM
whoops didn't mean to sound offensiveBut i mean, i would be NICE to have a fuction to replace the NKpatcher with something else (not included).
Not that mind deleting shit ofcourse, but that way it would be easy to create a "perfect" size shadowc image automaticly since the size of the created package wont differ later on (if/when you replace the bootloader XBE).
Post by: BigSteel on July 18, 2005, 02:10:00 PM
@ipodder2003: How are you coming along with the 2.0 tutorial?
Also, can you sign up with xbox live after installing ndure, or does it need to be done before you install the softmod?
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 18, 2005, 04:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Cio @ Jul 18 2005, 03:03 PM)
whoops didn't mean to sound offensiveBut i mean, i would be NICE to have a fuction to replace the NKpatcher with something else (not included).
Not that mind deleting shit ofcourse, but that way it would be easy to create a "perfect" size shadowc image automaticly since the size of the created package wont differ later on (if/when you replace the bootloader XBE).
Gotcha. My bad. No hard feelings.
BigSteel, it's in progress. Almost complete. And, for the sake of easiness, it's best to not have the mod installed at all to sign up for live, but if you already have, just change the files back, sign up, and remod.
Post by: Cio on July 19, 2005, 03:21:00 AM
I have kingroach's 2.0 now (on my mirrors), but didn't apply that "exact" setup to my install disk, i manully did it.
It boils down to the exact same thing as kingroach's installer but without any real options like kernel specific fonts (can only install the full NDure retail setup, either with or without apps).
It DOES however run on ur xbox so u wont need a PC. It includes PBL to disable the virtual C. And a filemanager bootable from CD (ava).
Kinda makin preps for a PC LAN party next moth so im fiddling with a fully stripped/tuned winXP install for now, not my box
@ipodder
Nice to hear, i love you all (note: in a straight, technically innovating way)
@kingroach
have you considered automaticly creating the shadowc.img file to fill the setup to its max size, instead of using fillers.
Since the dash wont be on C anyway, this shouldn't be an extremely daunting task right? (damn i gotta learn to program so i can do something with that shit in my head)
Post by: kingroach on July 19, 2005, 07:46:00 AM
anyway here is osmething Eh. suggested and I will be adding in next version:
1. an extra unleashx recovery dashboard in C:\ with softmod specific settings like restore C:\ drive, backup, enable/disable ndure etc.
2. Add PBL as an app to E:\apps\ so that user can disable shadowc and access real C:\
3. PBL will boot C:\ drives unleashx so that even if user decides to overwrite the dashboard with another dashbaord they will have unleashx.
Post by: Cio on July 19, 2005, 08:17:00 AM
this just keeps getting better.Would you mind if i used your Ndure installer created setups as a way to improve on my install disk? Cause i honestly feel like an FTP less solution would seriously benefit alot of ppl.
Post by: kingroach on July 19, 2005, 11:02:00 AM
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 20, 2005, 05:51:00 PM
It also leaves zero free space on C (real C) so updating isn't possible.
Post by: DaddyJ on July 20, 2005, 08:12:00 PM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Jul 20 2005, 08:02 PM)
Alright guys, with permission of kingroach, I've created a little gamesave installer. Its current features install Ndure with generic fonts only so far, but a choice of nkpatchers, along with a shadow C. If there is any interest in this, I'll release it, but for now I'll keep tweaking it. It's only for 007 thusfar.
It also leaves zero free space on C (real C) so updating isn't possible.
It also leaves zero free space on C (real C) so updating isn't possible.
Very interested
Post by: RiceCake on July 20, 2005, 08:28:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 20, 2005, 09:03:00 PM
QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Jul 20 2005, 08:47 PM)
Very interested Post by: kingroach on July 20, 2005, 09:13:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 20, 2005, 09:53:00 PM
I borrowed the UnleashX dash that your installer has, with the disable/enable code, hope that was ok
It's basically your installer as much as mine.
Post by: kingroach on July 20, 2005, 09:20:00 PM
QUOTE
I'm going to make it all one shadowC, hopefully, soon here.
I was thinking of that too..
.. so 354MB leaves 0 space on C:\.. I was little confused on the MB/Mbyte thing..
Post by: jesistehsux on July 21, 2005, 01:38:00 AM
This may be a bit off topic but I wanted to find out if you are using a custom font package since I was planning on customizing my setup a bit.
Thanks,
Jes
Post by: Cio on July 21, 2005, 01:14:00 AM
@Ipodder (and also kingroach)
Seems my work has already been superseeded. Guess my best optin is to rip your installer, learn unleashx scripting and modify my installer disk.
damn i dont have the time for that.
Post by: 390 AMX on July 21, 2005, 02:37:00 AM
Post by: Cio on July 21, 2005, 04:36:00 AM
Make sure to copy the fonts in the right order though! (ernie first, xbox second)
Post by: mkjones on July 21, 2005, 03:06:00 PM
think Im gonna have to re-mod my box We done roach
Post by: kingroach on July 21, 2005, 08:45:00 PM
I was writing some scripts for next version with built in backup/restore option.. so I was thinking , how "Restore Xbox from Slayers disk" option will work out?.. It will basically ask you to insert slayers disk and restore/recreate C:\ drive from slayers disk 2.6... It may be be needed if someone wants to install Ndure retail setup and his/her C:\ drive is messed up from previous softmod..
Post by: ihavealawngnome on July 21, 2005, 11:49:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 21, 2005, 11:50:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 22, 2005, 12:26:00 AM
Features now include:
Ndure retail/modded
nkpatcher selection
generic or specfic fonts
354mb shadow C that leaves 0 free space on real C
installs unleashx dash and formats shadow C with stock C (C backup left on E)
softmod enable/disable switch
Still doesn't have eeprom backup yet. I'll work on it.
The Bond installer has been released to a select few to test, and after that I may or may not release it to the public depending on how much interest there is in this.
Post by: DaddyJ on July 22, 2005, 06:36:00 AM
I'm into manual setups, but these installers are definitly easy to make time consuming setups, cake work, great work kingroach & ipodder,
Post by: mkjones on July 22, 2005, 06:39:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jul 22 2005, 04:56 AM)
thnx mkjones.. nice to see you around..
I was writing some scripts for next version with built in backup/restore option.. so I was thinking , how "Restore Xbox from Slayers disk" option will work out?.. It will basically ask you to insert slayers disk and restore/recreate C:\ drive from slayers disk 2.6... It may be be needed if someone wants to install Ndure retail setup and his/her C:\ drive is messed up from previous softmod..
I was writing some scripts for next version with built in backup/restore option.. so I was thinking , how "Restore Xbox from Slayers disk" option will work out?.. It will basically ask you to insert slayers disk and restore/recreate C:\ drive from slayers disk 2.6... It may be be needed if someone wants to install Ndure retail setup and his/her C:\ drive is messed up from previous softmod..
All sounding very nice
I got hold of a slayer torrent so think I will give this baby a whirl over the weekend
Post by: moviecut on July 22, 2005, 09:20:00 AM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Jul 22 2005, 08:37 AM)
Just an update on my little gamesave installer.
Features now include:
Ndure retail/modded
nkpatcher selection
generic or specfic fonts
354mb shadow C that leaves 0 free space on real C
installs unleashx dash and formats shadow C with stock C (C backup left on E)
softmod enable/disable switch
Still doesn't have eeprom backup yet. I'll work on it.
The Bond installer has been released to a select few to test, and after that I may or may not release it to the public depending on how much interest there is in this.
Features now include:
Ndure retail/modded
nkpatcher selection
generic or specfic fonts
354mb shadow C that leaves 0 free space on real C
installs unleashx dash and formats shadow C with stock C (C backup left on E)
softmod enable/disable switch
Still doesn't have eeprom backup yet. I'll work on it.
The Bond installer has been released to a select few to test, and after that I may or may not release it to the public depending on how much interest there is in this.
this sounds GREAT!!! hope you will release it soon!
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 22, 2005, 08:37:00 PM
ipodder's ndure gamesave installer for 007 has been sent out to a few trustworthy testers, and should be ready for public release soon. I've never made a Mechassault or Splinter Cell gamesave, but I'll mess with that and get them out eventually. Changing filepaths will be a PITA though.
The final features (for now):
Ndure retail/modded
nkpatcher selection
font selection
UnleashX installed dash
Fully formatted and ready shadowC that takes up all the rest of the real C partition
EEPROM and C backup to E Drive
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Hope there's some happy folks out there! I guess I'll need to write a tutorial for my own installer though...
Post by: krayzie on July 23, 2005, 10:43:00 AM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Jul 23 2005, 04:12 AM)
Alright guys, here's what you've been waiting for.
ipodder's ndure gamesave installer for 007 has been sent out to a few trustworthy testers, and should be ready for public release soon. I've never made a Mechassault or Splinter Cell gamesave, but I'll mess with that and get them out eventually. Changing filepaths will be a PITA though.
The final features (for now):
Ndure retail/modded
nkpatcher selection
font selection
UnleashX installed dash
Fully formatted and ready shadowC that takes up all the rest of the real C partition
EEPROM and C backup to E Drive
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Hope there's some happy folks out there! I guess I'll need to write a tutorial for my own installer though...
ipodder's ndure gamesave installer for 007 has been sent out to a few trustworthy testers, and should be ready for public release soon. I've never made a Mechassault or Splinter Cell gamesave, but I'll mess with that and get them out eventually. Changing filepaths will be a PITA though.
The final features (for now):
Ndure retail/modded
nkpatcher selection
font selection
UnleashX installed dash
Fully formatted and ready shadowC that takes up all the rest of the real C partition
EEPROM and C backup to E Drive
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Hope there's some happy folks out there! I guess I'll need to write a tutorial for my own installer though...
Hey nice job Ipodder. After a few days of being away I wanted to start soon on my own version but you might have bought me some time to expand it a bit.
p.s. you can change the installer paths easily by using a hex editor (search and replace)
Post by: BigSteel on July 23, 2005, 10:23:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on July 24, 2005, 08:23:00 AM
Post by: BigSteel on July 24, 2005, 08:55:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on July 24, 2005, 09:03:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on July 24, 2005, 03:53:00 PM
Post by: krayzie on July 24, 2005, 03:57:00 PM
Post by: DaddyJ on July 24, 2005, 04:43:00 PM
king!!
Post by: Cio on July 25, 2005, 06:08:00 AM
QUOTE(BigSteel @ Jul 24 2005, 05:06 PM)
Anyone working on a Mechassauly installer?
I have MA/007/SC-PAL savegame installers for use with my install disk or slayers. So you dont need to have a mod already installed. Can be found on the same place as the disk.
been online for some dutch noobie site, works great does nothing special.
@Ipodder, if you need the basic for your installers feel free to rip out my shit and replcae it for yourself, also contains an eeprom backup function.
This post has been edited by Cio: Jul 25 2005, 01:11 PM
Post by: micr0c0sm on July 25, 2005, 07:55:00 AM
I am having a bit of trouble setting this up on my own using the ndure 2.0 installer.
I have a perfectly updated brang spanking new (5838) xbox that i used a GS exploit to backup the C and eeprom to my computer.
I then used xboxhdm to make a 160gb WD drive with all these files and locked it and everything works great.
Now I take ndure installer, with directories set up like this
/ndure/ndure2.0.exe
/ndure/C/
When i install ndure, I choose full retail install, plus nkpatcher .67, and my kernel specific fonts (5838). Then I point it to /ndure/ (NOT /ndure/C/).
I boot into a gamesave exploit, delete everything on the C drive, copy /ndure/C/ (EXCEPT FOR /ndure/C/xodash/) to my xbox/C/ and copy /ndure/E/ to my (completely empty) xbox/E/. Then i make a folder on the xbox called xodash and copy one by one /ndure/C/xodash/ernie.xtf and then /ndure/C/xodash/Xbox.xtf.
It boots into UnleashX...okey dokey, every fine so far.
Not when the tray is out it *doesn't* boot into the unmodded xbox live compatable dashboard. So I boot back into UnleashX, and copy over my original, backed up, unmodified C drive that I never touched from my computer to the C drive shown in UnleashX. Am I right inassuming that this C drive is actually the shadowc.img?
Now I can boot the dashboard from UnleashX, but how do I set it up to boot the dashboard straight when I turn on the xbox with the tray open?
I keep getting error21.
(btw im not new to softmods, just new to ndure)
Any help would be appreciated.
Post by: kingroach on July 25, 2005, 10:56:00 AM
Post by: 2121oyoy on July 25, 2005, 10:58:00 AM
Also with so many installers maybe someone could make a chart showing the benefits of each one like with the bios chart. http://www.xbox-scene.com/bios_retail.html that would be nice for those who don't try each method out.
Post by: krayzie on July 25, 2005, 11:15:00 AM
QUOTE(2121oyoy @ Jul 25 2005, 07:02 PM)
What is the advantage of using kernel specific fonts versus the generic ones? Will using generic fonts reduce the mod capabilities?
Also with so many installers maybe someone could make a chart showing the benefits of each one like with the bios chart. http://www.xbox-scene.com/bios_retail.html that would be nice for those who don't try each method out.
Also with so many installers maybe someone could make a chart showing the benefits of each one like with the bios chart. http://www.xbox-scene.com/bios_retail.html that would be nice for those who don't try each method out.
If the generic fonts work there is no benefit in using specific ones. And yes a chart isn't a bad idea. If only someone would make it. (but he will have to wait a couple of weeks though).
Post by: DaddyJ on July 25, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
QUOTE(krayzie)
(but he will have to wait a couple of weeks though).
Got something in the works???
Post by: krayzie on July 25, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
Post by: micr0c0sm on July 25, 2005, 11:46:00 AM
Meaning when the tray is out, boots into unmodded and Xlive 2.0 compatable MS dash, and when tray is in boots to unleashX.
This would be uber-helpful in narrowing down my problem.
(Also, if possible, can it be with the 5838 specific font ...).
Post by: kingroach on July 25, 2005, 01:20:00 PM
The files needed for msxboxdash.xbe ( the retail dash) is:
xboxdashdata.185eadoo folder ( all of it expect settings_adock.xip file)
xodash folder ( all contents of it+ earnie.xtf and Xbox.xtf)
fonts folder
Audio folder.
Post by: ipodder2003 on July 25, 2005, 01:26:00 PM
In the dash that is installed with the Activate/Deactivate Ndure switches, the scripting is flawed. If you're running a shadowC like most users will, absolutely nothing is accomplished because it just renames the shadowC dash files. You need to implement a PBL in there somewhere.
Post by: kingroach on July 25, 2005, 03:35:00 PM
.. yup I figured that out.. I will update the installer with the new unleashx.xml I wrtote.. It will install another unleashx as app with PBL..
Post by: DaddyJ on July 25, 2005, 03:58:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jul 25 2005, 05:10 PM)
.. yup I figured that out.. I will update the installer with the new unleashx.xml I wrtote.. It will install another unleashx as app with PBL..you can use the same unleashX xbe and just swap scripts out. just my 2 cents.
Post by: Cio on July 26, 2005, 12:50:00 AM
QUOTE(micr0c0sm @ Jul 25 2005, 07:50 PM)
Can anyone post a full file list (including sizes ) of a completely working dual nDure installer 2.0 mod.
This can be found in the last pages of the original NDure thread ("dont run a HDD scan") or read ipodders tut or DL my installer disk and replace the fonts with the kernel specific ones afterwards and/or replace NKpatcher (c:\hack\default2.xbe). The disk contains PBL to expose the real C but only has generic fonts.
Post by: 2121oyoy on July 26, 2005, 07:58:00 AM
QUOTE(krayzie @ Jul 25 2005, 07:19 PM)
If the generic fonts work there is no benefit in using specific ones.
Does this mean as long as it boots then everything else is ok? I have a box that boots and works for 99% of the things but one or two do not work on this box that do work on my other boxes. I just want to be sure that the generic fonts wouldn't be able to boot the box but then later cause other problems. I don't know exactly when the fonts are used so I don't know if they could be an issue.
Post by: Cio on July 26, 2005, 08:57:00 AM
Depending on what does/doesn't work try clearing your cache (e:\cache, X/Y/Z drives) and unmodding (if needed) the virtual C
Post by: Ndure protagonist on July 29, 2005, 11:27:00 PM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Jul 25 2005, 02:30 PM)
Kingroach, I just thought I'd point out.
In the dash that is installed with the Activate/Deactivate Ndure switches, the scripting is flawed. If you're running a shadowC like most users will, absolutely nothing is accomplished because it just renames the shadowC dash files. You need to implement a PBL in there somewhere.
In the dash that is installed with the Activate/Deactivate Ndure switches, the scripting is flawed. If you're running a shadowC like most users will, absolutely nothing is accomplished because it just renames the shadowC dash files. You need to implement a PBL in there somewhere.
With the 2.0 beta, you can use its gamesave to do those. If you also want to deactivate from the dash, create a new folder in /E/apps and copy the default.xbe plus b*.* files (from the gamesave folder) into that too...
Post by: garyopa on July 31, 2005, 04:02:00 PM
with the language still set to Japanese, and both modes worked Retail
and Hacked, and completely tested including XBOX Live. Used the
Generic fonts, and then later I solder-wired and split the TSOP into
two 512K banks and still everything on Japan model with Generic fonts.
Great work everyone.
Post by: St0mPeR on August 01, 2005, 05:35:00 AM
I think this will be good if I can get it to work. Just a few questions here.
1 Dose this go for me here at this post?
2 What about making tha image on pc then moving it? just woundering
3 err...um...hmm...How is your day?
Thanks people
Post by: Cio on August 02, 2005, 08:12:00 AM
YOU DONT EVEN NEED TO!
btw when running a BFM M$ bios, nkpatcher is not run jet (so no virtual drives are loaded then). It must first boot xboxdash.xbe and the hacked fonts, then it boots nkpatcher.
get the right M$ BIOS for you xbox BTW.
Post by: Textbook on August 03, 2005, 05:05:00 PM
Post by: ipodder2003 on August 03, 2005, 05:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Aug 3 2005, 06:16 PM)
I'm going to wait until Krayzie's ndure installer comes out.
You could always use mine in the time being.
I doubt I'll ever release it now, even though it's done and fully functional. It will get no use after krayzie's comes out soon.
Post by: DaddyJ on August 03, 2005, 06:01:00 PM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Aug 3 2005, 07:30 PM)
You could always use mine in the time being.
I doubt I'll ever release it now, even though it's done and fully functional. It will get no use after krayzie's comes out soon.
I doubt I'll ever release it now, even though it's done and fully functional. It will get no use after krayzie's comes out soon.
F**K that, release the s**t....
Variety never hurts, just make sure the readme is good.
Post by: ipodder2003 on August 04, 2005, 01:37:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on August 04, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
CODE
INSTALL MENU:
1. Basic setup: This install Ndure basic setup. Includes shadowc in C:\shadowc. Dash is in E:\dash\.
2. Retail setup: This installs Ndure retail setup. Retail setup install tray state booting. Tray closed boots unleashx and tray open boots retail msdash. which can be used to go to xbox live.
3. De-Activate Ndure: De activates softmod. In the next reboot, xbox will boot in complete retail state.
4. Activate Ndure: As stated, it activates de-activated softmod install.
FONTS MENU:
Installs yor kernel specific fonts. You can also choose to install scraps fonts if your xbox hangs at startup screen.
BACKUP/RESTORE MENU:
1. Backup C drive: Backs up C drive in E:\backup folder. This is important if you want to take benefit of the various restore funcktions of the installer.
2. Backup eeprom: Backs up eeprom with evox.
3. Refresh C drive: Repair C drive. If you used backup option before, it will restore the backup and also install ndure retail setup.
4. Repair retail dash: This will repair the dash if dashupdate occurs for any reason.
5. Restore C drive: Same as C refresh. Restores C drive from E:\backup.
6. Restore C from slayers: Restores C drive from slayers disk 2.6. Use this if your somehow mess up C drive and dont have a backup.You will also need slayers disk burned in a CD/DVD. Insert the disk when instructed.
MISC. OPTIONS:
1. Use Nkpatcher.67: Uses Nkpatcher.67 instead of the default one. Use this if you want F+G drive and have an HD larger than 137GB.
2. Install Virtual eeprom: For this you need to use backup eeprom option first. It will install backed up eeprom as virtual eeprom in C:\shadowc.
3. Install evox: Install evox as an application in E:\apps\
1. Basic setup: This install Ndure basic setup. Includes shadowc in C:\shadowc. Dash is in E:\dash\.
2. Retail setup: This installs Ndure retail setup. Retail setup install tray state booting. Tray closed boots unleashx and tray open boots retail msdash. which can be used to go to xbox live.
3. De-Activate Ndure: De activates softmod. In the next reboot, xbox will boot in complete retail state.
4. Activate Ndure: As stated, it activates de-activated softmod install.
FONTS MENU:
Installs yor kernel specific fonts. You can also choose to install scraps fonts if your xbox hangs at startup screen.
BACKUP/RESTORE MENU:
1. Backup C drive: Backs up C drive in E:\backup folder. This is important if you want to take benefit of the various restore funcktions of the installer.
2. Backup eeprom: Backs up eeprom with evox.
3. Refresh C drive: Repair C drive. If you used backup option before, it will restore the backup and also install ndure retail setup.
4. Repair retail dash: This will repair the dash if dashupdate occurs for any reason.
5. Restore C drive: Same as C refresh. Restores C drive from E:\backup.
6. Restore C from slayers: Restores C drive from slayers disk 2.6. Use this if your somehow mess up C drive and dont have a backup.You will also need slayers disk burned in a CD/DVD. Insert the disk when instructed.
MISC. OPTIONS:
1. Use Nkpatcher.67: Uses Nkpatcher.67 instead of the default one. Use this if you want F+G drive and have an HD larger than 137GB.
2. Install Virtual eeprom: For this you need to use backup eeprom option first. It will install backed up eeprom as virtual eeprom in C:\shadowc.
3. Install evox: Install evox as an application in E:\apps\
Post by: DaddyJ on August 04, 2005, 10:47:00 AM
Post by: ipodder2003 on August 04, 2005, 11:43:00 AM
usual place. Who's your daddy!if anyone understands that horrible reference to where it is, I commend you.
Post by: DaddyJ on August 04, 2005, 11:49:00 AM
QUOTE(ipodder2003 @ Aug 4 2005, 01:54 PM)
My installer can be found at the usual place. Who's your daddy!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ipodder2003 on August 04, 2005, 11:52:00 AM
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I just made some huge changes and haven't tested myself, so it could be megafucked. I'll test later on as well.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 04, 2005, 08:42:00 PM
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ok its out.. check it out and post thoughts.. .. Its in the same package as in Ndure 2.0.. just choose your gamesave from the menu.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: runtotheoutsidebob on August 05, 2005, 07:55:00 PM
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i have a quetion the bios.xbe i would like it to point to xb0xdash.xbe insted of msxboxdash.xbe . i did that with hex editor but i am gessing it is signed . is there something i can sign it with? thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 05, 2005, 08:43:00 PM
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You need to sign it with xbedump.. no links allowed but a google search will provide links..or look at usual places.you need to use this command:
xbedump bios.xbe -habibi
this will output a file named out.xbe.. just rename it to bios.xbe and replace.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 06, 2005, 11:49:00 AM
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runtotheoutsidebob, that could cause you errors/problems! If you do it, you'd also need to change related scripting for some of these new "Ndure Toolset" features...
kingroach, you posted "Its in the same package as in Ndure 2.0" ... I thought the Ndure Toolset, bigger ShadowC, 21MB "future use" filler etc. were new in version 2.1?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 06, 2005, 12:07:00 PM
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typo.. its in Ndure 2.1..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: runtotheoutsidebob on August 06, 2005, 01:53:00 PM
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thank for the reply .what im trying to do is make more of the dash to work in the stock tray open state. now i may be on crack i would like to after pointing to xb0xdash.xbe test some hex editing some of the dashbord to point to xb0xdash.xbe in sted of xboxdash.xbe so you can get into network setting and mabe xbox live account set up in sted of using the game save exploit each time. i have a testing clip in modchip for all the retrys. any pointers would be helpfull on wich file point to both live and the network set up . o and i have said it thanks im an avid reader of the scene and i just love messing with the xbox
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 07, 2005, 12:45:00 AM
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runtotheoutsidebob, /C/xodash/xonlinedash.xbe is in control of all things XBL re. the dashboard (SFAIK).
In the original thread wrayal had some (mind blowing!) ideas related to that and garyopa was investigating it at the file level (IIRC).
rmenhal originally looked into it and found that, alas, MS do seem to have done a great job preempting us. However, I'm not going to say "it can't be done"; that's been said about things that eventually were!
(Btw, please post further related matters in the original thread or a new one.)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Cio on August 07, 2005, 07:19:00 AM
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This neither deserves to be posted nor does it deserve any real reply. You might wanna consider your options and try to grasp the fact that krayzie was not active in the early testing and thus is more likely to make mistakes (ok.. so he probably wont.. but then again if your so unsure?)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 07, 2005, 07:46:00 AM
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If it doesn't deserve any reply why are you replying to this 3 day old post?
Also I was toying with UEEE (so basically this xonlinedashexploit) before it even came out. Then add the fact that textbook (amongst others) allready tested my beta version (with succes I migth add)so this remark isn't even relevant anymore.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 07, 2005, 10:25:00 AM
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I'm very pleased that krayzie has created an Ndure gamesave installer, and glad I was wrong about him just sticking with UXE!
I anticipate that, like his other, it will be an awesome way for the masses to benefit from rmenhal's achievements (who hopefully will be primarily credited for its content this time).
I think there will be an ongoing "market" for kingroach's installer too, just like there still is/was for "UXE Complete". Regarding which, I believe that "Ndure Complete" is possible...
Anyone interested in kingroach's installer potentially providing an end-to-end, self-contained Ndure implementation (that thereby doesn't need an exploitable game)?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Cio on August 07, 2005, 10:34:00 AM
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"any real reply". My reply wasn't exactly helpfull of constructive now was it? It wasn't intented to bring you (or any of your work) down, but just that it seemed odd to wait for you to release an installer when this exact setup was never before used by you, but was used and tested by others (and they already released installers).
It was ment to show that the poster has little to add, besides that most n00bs want to see only one person providing them with automated help. And who better then a moderator.
I cant stand the fact that someone would bring down kingroach's work by posting stuff like "ill wait for this and this guy to release" since it bascily implies what he's done so far is not to be trusted.
@Kingroach (and everyone else interested)
My sig now also contains a way to finding the 2.1 installer (mirror updated) and a fully functional n00b proof savegame/install disk or xboxhdm&ndure basic/install disk combo.
@Eh
The Ndure basic setup as i mentioned in the original thread has been online for a while, but was rejected from xbins for "having little to add to the current exploit market". If someone else wishes to submit the basic files, i wish you luck. You'll need it (or a reputation).
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 07, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
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Theres always a "brand name" I guess.. and "Krazye" is a brand that many people believe in I guess.. so no need of a flame war. .
"Iriez" doesnt visit this forum anymore I guess.. I PM'd him twice about my uxe package for xbxohdm and never got any reply back.. CIO was the first person with any kind of installer ( I still use the reduced "media" folder proposed) but that time nobody was interested in Ndure and its benefits were unknown..anyway. there is downside of any gamesave installer too.. like most xbox's that were shipped with 4920 dash still has Xbox.xtf and Xbox Book.xtf file in C:\ root.. that can cause a problem when autometically filling up C:\ with shadowc.. and Unleashx or any other dash missing the "If file exist" like command so that when a particular file is detected it would delete that.. unleasx gives some error if theres a delete command for Xbxo./Xbox book.xtf and if the file is not found..
@CIO.. I got you PM.. i updated the urls too in my site..thnx..
@Ndure protagonist
I will update ( not soon but when get enough time) the UXE package for xboxhdm with ndure funcktion so people who still hotswap and install exploit can install ndure with ease..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 07, 2005, 11:28:00 AM
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Okay one more thread crap post from me before I quit arguing about useless things. I hope you can see by saying that I am more likely to make mistakes becuz I haven't supported Ndure from day one I felt sort of offended. I take my work very seriously and try to provide safe and stable stuff. I also remember Kingroach's stuff wasn't 100 % good in tha beginning also (which isn't bad cuz we all have to learn) so I just had to reply to that (strange) argument.
Also I would like to settle things about me being "against" Ndure. I was never against it. It might have took me a while to understand it's full potential though (which didn't seem that strange to me cuz off all that crytology stuff Eh used to convince everybody. That might have made me not wanna read any further many times).
I also thought Ndure was a bit too overhyped sometimes and some off the arguments were simply exaggerated or just not true.
In the beginning I always opped I'd make an Ndure Installer once i'd get the time for it so I hope you don't see me making one as some kind of contest in who has the best installer cuz I don't care about that. I have my own installer line so switching to Ndure is just a logical step since it's just a better exploit and we just have to move on.
In the end I like the Ndure exploit very much and I am gratefull to the people who introduced and developed it to what it is now. Also I wanna apologize to anyone who might have feel offended in my sometimes critical reactions.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 07, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
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there is downside of any gamesave installer too.. like most xbox's that were shipped with 4920 dash still has Xbox.xtf and Xbox Book.xtf file in C:\ root.. that can cause a problem when autometically filling up C:\ with shadowc.. and Unleashx or any other dash missing the "If file exist" like command so that when a particular file is detected it would delete that.. unleasx gives some error if theres a delete command for Xbxo./Xbox book.xtf and if the file is not found..
there are two simple workarounds for that.
1. first copy dummy files to c root naming them as the xtf files to ensure it won't error on deletion
2. make the filler so large it would cover the space without the fonts (or even larger). there won't be an error if the file is larger then the space present so all bytes are used.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Textbook on August 07, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
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I just want to say that Krayzie is a friend of mine and since I have used his UXE installer countless times without any problems whatsoever, I know I can trust him with my xbox. Since I had heard some things about ipodder's mistakes or something like that, I figured I would just wait until Krayzie came out with his Ndure installer. I am already used to Krayzie's style of installers, so I figured one more week of waiting for an installer I know I could trust was worth it. It wasn't meant to lower Kingroach, but to maybe bring attention to some people who may not have known that Krayzie was even making an ndure installer.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ipodder2003 on August 07, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
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Tell you what guys. If anyone should be bitter, it should probably be me. Everybody jumps on the krayzie-bandwagon, even though I've had an installer out for a while now. Am I upset or pissed off? Not at all! It's just how things go. Quite frankly I think everyone's installer is fine as long as it's functional and won't cause problems. Krayzie has done that, kingroach, you have too, and hopefully mine was at least decent. We're all for the same cause here anyways.
That's the end to my heartwarming post. Carry on.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 07, 2005, 03:04:00 PM
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Cio, XBL related improvement was devz3ro's main interest last time I 'heard'. So an "Ndure Complete" capable of Retail setup (plus Basic) is something I think he'd most likely consider.
kingroach, I'm optimistic that Ndure 2.1 can become "Ndure Complete" (its 21MB filler's there intentionally) so maybe wait a bit longer re. the xboxhdm package...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: DaddyJ on August 07, 2005, 03:22:00 PM
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His installers are better than my installers , which are better than his installers, which are better than mine, this isnt a contest, its a place to come and learn and discover the potentional for making your xbox a hella lot better, hell when i first hit the boards, i needed hotswapping help, now i consider myself a hotswapping master, but that was after i read & read, and then even wrote my own hotswapping guide.
Fact is, we need ipodders installers, and we need krayzies installers, and we need kings's packages/installers, and we need all these other peoples works as well.
Who's is better, ( mine after I rip all they sh|t ) Just kidding 
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 07, 2005, 04:14:00 PM
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I wont start working on that until next month.. but then my college will be open. . so theres plenty of times..
King of the roaches pwn you all.. not even nuke can kill me..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: alfonse on August 08, 2005, 11:24:00 AM
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Hello all,
I have used the kingroach's installer (2.0 haven't tested the 2.1) and I succesfully installed NDURE on my xbox. I used the generic fonts, however I have a problem with NDURE.
When I start my xbox in an unmodded state (eject button), the MS dash starts, but I am unable to watch DVD video discs (either originals or backups). I am however able to play Audio Cds. When I put a DVD video, it just shows a black screen and nothing else. I have the DVD kit.
The interesting part is that, when I start my xbox in a modded state (power button) I am able to watch the DVDs, I can start the MS dash from my virtual C and play them. I even tested to load a different bios(iND Bios) and start the MS dash on the real C (msxboxdash.xbe) and the dash plays ok the DVDs.
I was using the Krayzie's 2.7 installer, before I decided to switch to NDURE.
What could be causing such strange behaviour?
My xbox specs:
NTSC 1.4 Xbox with Focus Encoder
5713 Kernel
Thanks in advance for any insight on this.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: 2121oyoy on August 08, 2005, 11:04:00 AM
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I hope that there ends up being the files for these installers already to go for ftp or xboxhdm. I usually don't use the gamesave methods. I don't have a mem card or many games. Also I like to see the files on the pc and look around in them. That's one thing I liked about the ndure version I checked out and I hope to see it more often.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 08, 2005, 11:22:00 AM
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@alfonse,
its most like for the settings_adoc.xip file.. Ndure needs this file to be deleted and thus creating the problem.. I dig around this and let you know soon..
@2121oyoy
its ready to ftp or use with xboxhdm.. I too always like the manual method since you get an idea how the thing works and if something goes wrong , you can troubleshoot it easily.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: alfonse on August 08, 2005, 12:06:00 PM
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Thanks for your response kingroach, I will be waiting then.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: sketch_uk2000 on August 08, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
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Quick question is it possible to patch the shadowc xboxdash.xbe to make it region free
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 08, 2005, 01:01:00 PM
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offcourse.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: sketch_uk2000 on August 08, 2005, 02:02:00 PM
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how do i go about making making an image of my modified xbox dash that will fit on my c drive
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 08, 2005, 05:13:00 PM
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you can either copy the files generated by setup to C:\ drive or you can also put C drive files in any folder named "C" and setup that folder as installation dircetory and it will patch and write necessary files. either way it includes shadowc files that fills up teh rest of your C:\ drive.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Dolfhin on August 08, 2005, 07:33:00 PM
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Just a quick question, I was under the impression that the UDE (and all newer UDE2, UXE, Ndure, etc) are not vulnerable to the clock loop problem. Rhmental readme raised some concerns. What is all this talk about Ndure being more stable than UDE? Is Ndure completely risk free even after the holiday? Any other risks (I've seen changing languages mentioned).
What exactly are the advantages of Ndure above the previous exploits?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 08, 2005, 08:46:00 PM
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All UDE+ exploits are clock loop free so you can shut off your xbox as long as you like.. it is said that Ndure is more stable than UDE/UXE but its all due to the fonts used by Ndure.. and the stability is not always visible.. for some xbox , UXE hangs if you change settings like parantel controls, language etc. but for Ndure it doesnt happen.. But this hanging of UXE is a rare case..
the only visible advantage of Ndure is that it uses fonts in C:\xodash\ and therefore you can use the retail dash just by changing its name , no need for Fonts>f0nts patching.. so it allows you to boot to msdash in unexploited mode using closed-retail.xbe. so you can have XBl access without coldboot.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 08, 2005, 11:13:00 PM
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and offcourse not to forget it allows gameupdates from coldbooted games (or booted via eject retail function). and some games that require the fonts do not hang from coldboots or via the retail eject function.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 09, 2005, 07:05:00 AM
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kingroach, it's unrelated to the settings_adoc.xip (as deleting that does not create a problem)!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Dolfhin on August 09, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
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Ah Thanks for the explanation, as long as I decide not to learn Spanish on my XBox I should be safe
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: xman954 on August 09, 2005, 11:51:00 AM
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going to try this ndure thing out later tonight
used your 2.1 pkg and it looks to work fine, 496MB replacment C:\
but did notice the the Legacy fonts were removed, are they not needed any more ?
and also does anyone know where i can find the SRC for closed-retail.xbe
the one that patches back the public key...
thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 09, 2005, 11:56:00 AM
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no pre-live fonts are not needed anymore.. I dont have the direct lick but the closed-retail and dualboot .xbe and source are hosted in the xguides.xbox-scene.com ( AFAIK)..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: xman954 on August 09, 2005, 12:31:00 PM
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not there, but a good site with good stuff
i will keep searching
thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 09, 2005, 11:58:00 AM
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it's here
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Cio on August 11, 2005, 07:43:00 AM
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to you all, Eh, kingroach, ipodder, krayzie AND OFCOURSE ALL OTHERS EXPLORING POSSIBILITIES! I didn't intend to start a flame war, or offend anyone, but my not so good mood kinda spoiled that.
Although, just for the record, at the same time i posted my "basic" setup, with stripped media folder, i released an installer via my homepage and submitted it to xbins via normal e-mail.
At that point, XBL/update coldboot support was implemented & tested with legacy fonts, no chance of errors (besides user ones!) and my ndure/install CD for xbox was released at the same time as kingroach came with the ndure installer for PC.
Thus, like ipodder, i feel somewhat bitter over both devz3ro's and krayzie's apathy towards ndure. For me the fact that everyone can now use ndure with ease and benefit better XBL/settings compatibility means more, so honestly i couldn't care less then when it was "my work" that was used.
If this turns out as a way to steal credit though....
I'm just gonna go fix my 2 broken xboxes for now, and let the bigshots handle this. They seem to get things in place faster and more effective (no sarcasm here!) so i might as well keep out.
If anyone needs more testers, hosting, file help etcetc, please let me know, my main goal is to help out a community that (via me) liberated not only my xbox, but those of countless friends and family members who can now watch movies, play mario party, listen to music etc wherever they want, without hassle.
So "respeca" and thx to all of you, may the force be with you
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 11, 2005, 08:21:00 AM
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Again: I had no apathy against Ndure I had apathy against the way it was propagandized.
Some of you just created an atmosphere in where Ndure was the bomb and UXE was bad and dangerous. UXE is still the current #1 used exploit and it think it deserved its high status. Ndure offers some good impovements but it's not like it's WAY better.
And i still don't understand it why is everybody feeling bitter all of the sudden. Isn't this a free community anymore? Was I not permitted to upgrade my installer to Ndure? I made anouncements in a very early stage although my schedual didn't allow it at that point. If people then decide to make one themselves they should not complain when someone else makes one too.
By the way I also used some codes of Rmenhal, dr oldschool, Xman, angerwound and probably many others. I hereby give all of the people provided code or setups many many credits and i hope they don't consider it stealing when I'm using "their"stuff.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 11, 2005, 08:58:00 AM
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why dont we leave things behind..
on the offtopic, I just installed OSX into my HP computer.. if that makes someone happy.. in your face apple..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ipodder2003 on August 11, 2005, 11:37:00 AM
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to you all, Eh, kingroach, ipodder, krayzie AND OFCOURSE ALL OTHERS EXPLORING POSSIBILITIES! I didn't intend to start a flame war, or offend anyone, but my not so good mood kinda spoiled that.
Although, just for the record, at the same time i posted my "basic" setup, with stripped media folder, i released an installer via my homepage and submitted it to xbins via normal e-mail.
At that point, XBL/update coldboot support was implemented & tested with legacy fonts, no chance of errors (besides user ones!) and my ndure/install CD for xbox was released at the same time as kingroach came with the ndure installer for PC.
Thus, like ipodder, i feel somewhat bitter over both devz3ro's and krayzie's apathy towards ndure. For me the fact that everyone can now use ndure with ease and benefit better XBL/settings compatibility means more, so honestly i couldn't care less then when it was "my work" that was used.
If this turns out as a way to steal credit though....
I'm just gonna go fix my 2 broken xboxes for now, and let the bigshots handle this. They seem to get things in place faster and more effective (no sarcasm here!) so i might as well keep out.
If anyone needs more testers, hosting, file help etcetc, please let me know, my main goal is to help out a community that (via me) liberated not only my xbox, but those of countless friends and family members who can now watch movies, play mario party, listen to music etc wherever they want, without hassle.
So "respeca" and thx to all of you, may the force be with you
I wasn't ever bitter, I posted that a couple pages back. We're all for the same team here, and I expected krayzie's installer to get waves of attention and mine to only be used by a select few, and quite honestly, I'm pretty glad. I doubt a lowly "Member" status person such as myself's PM box could handle the onslaught of messages from noobs who don't understand. Cheers guys.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 13, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
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Some may recall that kernel versions up to 5530 can run a font exploit that uses /C/bert.xtf and /C/ernie.xtf (it resulted from rmenhal's original double dash exploit).
Well, with Ndure it can be used as a "double dash easter egg" (DDEE) exploit, to get back from the live console enabled 185ead00 dash (except for K:5713/5838).
This DDEE requires 21 MB on my 3944's real C, which is one of the reasons for 2.1's filler of that size...
(*I will start a new topic ASAP to provide details about various Ndure 2.1 opportunities, including this.)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 13, 2005, 11:47:00 AM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 13, 2005, 04:29:00 PM
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Nice idea. I actually thought about making a SCEEE gateway back since that would work on all kernels. MA has this option too but a double dash is indeed much quicker and nicer.
This post has been edited by krayzie: Aug 13 2005, 11:30 PM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 13, 2005, 11:55:00 PM
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(Clarification: I'm referring to the double dash exploit that can be used as an easter egg exploit ... so I probably should have said 'DDEEE').
krayzie, wouldn't the SCEEE and MAEEE setups break Ndure's automatic softmod protection though?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 14, 2005, 12:29:00 AM
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In what way? Could you please clarify
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 14, 2005, 01:03:00 AM
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If dashupdate.xbe runs when SCEEE or MAEEE are implemented then (due to the space they consume in xboxdashdata.185ead00) wouldn't it subsequently overwrite xboxdash.xbe and the xodash directory plus contents, thereby clobbering the softmod (if it's not manually interrupted in time)?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 14, 2005, 01:12:00 AM
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Hmmm yeah I see your point. So the executable would have to be smaller then the previous settings_adoc.xip in order for the update to fail. Thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 14, 2005, 11:14:00 AM
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The executable plus any support files needed in xboxdashdata.185ead00 too...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 14, 2005, 10:46:00 AM
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Yups those too obviously... If we only found a way to prevent the execution of the dashupdate.xbe...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 14, 2005, 12:48:00 PM
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That's for sure, but let's remember that the risk of the softmod ever being clobbered (due to SCEEE or MAEEE being installed) is therefore low.
However, as proven on my 3944, non-K:5713/5838 users most likely could be using 'DDEEE' instead, which doesn't break Ndure's softmod protection.
Also, I anticipate that K:3944-5838 users will all have other EEE alternatives, eventually. (I'm surprised no one seems to have noticed that aspect of "eh."'s final posts, profile info. and sig...)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 14, 2005, 02:37:00 PM
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as usual your ourcolony /Ilovebee style posting confuse the shit out of all people.. do you mean that we can use 4920 xboxdash.xbe with teh hulk exploit.. so put xboxdash as settings_adoc.xip and create st.db for xboxdash.xbe that will run the exploit?.. That will be most beneficial since 5713/5838 users wont feel left out..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 14, 2005, 02:33:00 PM
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kingroach, you're confusing eh.'s postings with mine, which I think is unfair (tee-hee) and I see that you understoood almost all of the potential future exploit...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 14, 2005, 05:23:00 PM
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I dont know what I am doing... but heres a st.db I cooked up.. see if this works:
http://www.amarshonarbangla.com/kingroach/hulkstdb.asm
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 14, 2005, 11:16:00 PM
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kingroach, I said "almost" because you put "teh hulk" where it's "an audio".
I think you and others will soon be testing ST.DB's; this is the 'UDDAE' referenced in eh.'s profile (and sig, which links to an outline that includes 'UDD' setup info.)...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 15, 2005, 05:13:00 AM
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Nice thinking....
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ipodder2003 on August 15, 2005, 01:27:00 PM
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You guys are all nuts. That's all there is to it.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: RiceCake on August 15, 2005, 01:50:00 PM
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The dual boot XBE's are on XGuides I just forgot to put a proper link in the Wiki.
http://xguides.xbox-.../users/rmenhal/
And since Xbedump is written from scratch, its also there.
http://xguides.xbox-...users/RiceCake/
I'm gonna tear down XGuides soon and put it all back up, been having alot of trouble lately. When its back up I'll probably build the FAQ section up to help take the stress off these forums. Tutorials as always will be a free-for-all.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: chedabob on August 17, 2005, 04:37:00 AM
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just to clear things up , do i just run the installer to create the files then use any other gamesave exploit to gain ftp acess then upload?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 17, 2005, 07:26:00 AM
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yes, First generate the files and then ftp. or if you dont have enought experience then you can use Krazye's gamesave installer.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: tetsuo55 on August 17, 2005, 01:24:00 PM
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Just installed this on my 5530 xbox, choosing the retail install with nkpatcher support for 136+gb drives, but it doesnt see my F drive, it shows a empty drive with 28 gb free
when in reality i have 60 gb free, its a 160 gb harddisk
any ideas what im doing wrong?
works fine with ude
PS, booting to an orange powerled scared the shit out of me, thought i fragged it!
i notice that using this exploit you have to wait longer before the dash shows, it that normal?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 17, 2005, 12:52:00 PM
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In your UDE , did you have F+G drive or only F drive formatted upto 160GB?..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: tetsuo55 on August 17, 2005, 12:53:00 PM
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i had 160 Gig F, no G
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 17, 2005, 01:42:00 PM
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When you used the installer, did you choose use nkpatcher.67 option?.. it seems like you are using NKpatcher .67 and thats why its showing 28Gb free..
This post has been edited by kingroach: Aug 17 2005, 08:43 PM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: tetsuo55 on August 17, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
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Testing now, doesnt ndure have ingame reset like ude+pbl does?
Edit: Disabling the 67 option fixed it
:)
when i coldboot with a burned disc inside i dont seem to have IGR is this normal?
This post has been edited by tetsuo55: Aug 17 2005, 08:48 PM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 17, 2005, 01:13:00 PM
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IGR is a nkpatcher feauture. It has nothing to do with ndure but I'm sure it's in the package
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: tetsuo55 on August 17, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
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It all works now
the IGR is even better than with ude+pbl because it resets from disc to dash which i prefer :D
thansk for this great exploit+installer guys!!
time to remod all my boxes
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 19, 2005, 09:04:00 AM
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In case anyone's interested, the virtual C is a great way to try the "Uber Double Dash" and subsequently its easter-egg and audio exploits (UDDEE & UDDAE) initially...
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...dpost&p=1977935
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 19, 2005, 08:45:00 AM
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which ST.DB will be used with these?.. normal double dash ST.DB
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on August 19, 2005, 08:58:00 AM
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My guess is the normal audio exploit (although be it the stable version).
I wonder though....If the exploit is switched off and the dash gets updated (or at least an attmept to update it) wouldn't it error on the next boot and wouldn't it be hard to recover if the user doesn't have the exploited game.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: _shinobi_ on August 20, 2005, 04:39:00 AM
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just a little question :huh:
I have a 200 MB C... can I still use the retail setup? (the shadowc img is too big...)
thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Cio on August 21, 2005, 03:09:00 AM
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Your C should be 500 MB, disable your virtual C drive (run a gamesave exploit or a bios loader).
Also this installer creates ALL files needed for the exploit so you can clear out C (ofcourse only if you're gonna place the exploit straight away!)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 21, 2005, 07:46:00 AM
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your C drive should be around 145Mb.. see if there is any extra files.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: _shinobi_ on August 21, 2005, 09:25:00 AM
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ok, thanks, I was working with the shadowc C... :P
I've installed a new C, generated with Ndure 2.1, but now that I've done that, the new shadowc is empty... I have an empty C when I boot my xbox...
How is the shadowc.img is generated with Ndure setup??? Can I choose the files I want to put in?
thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 21, 2005, 09:15:00 AM
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The shadowc is empty, you can put C drive files there.. Normal C drive is like this:
Audio
fonts
xodash
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xboxdash.xbe
or you can out whatever file you want to put in shadowc.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 21, 2005, 10:53:00 AM
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(_shinobi_, also, the method in the following link's first post can be used for it to do that setup for you.)
Re.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=434088
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 26, 2005, 11:09:00 AM
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Easter-egg exploits (such as the UDDEE) don't require a special one and the answer re. UDDAE is in the linked post...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 27, 2005, 09:35:00 AM
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the font zips in only 2KB.. so thats great..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 29, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
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kingroach, are you interested in further enhancing this installer re. "complete" (such as an Ndure 'fonts' setup and 'double-dash easter-egg' options)?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 29, 2005, 11:22:00 AM
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I am always up for adding things.. :) I actually already did something with packing them in to installer but I wont be able to do anything untill friday.. :( :(
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 30, 2005, 09:37:00 AM
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That's great to hear kingroach; at your convenience ... there's no hurry here, the dust's still settling on krayzie's release.
Regarding which, it seems there's an improvement opportunity for users with non-'retail' installs, as per: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...dpost&p=2858749
The Ndure 'fonts' setup is superior for those that just coldboot, because dashupdate.xbe's fail almost immediately (without significantly changing the real-C) plus it's unlikely to hang thereafter, even with the generic font.
If you're interested, a "Fonts" 'type of install' could be implemented by your installer as follows:
Similarly, the "Retail" type could install the renamed "Basic" type's folder, so users can also toggle to/from the "Fonts" setup if they want to...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: RiceCake on August 30, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
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Keep up the good work kingroach, because by poking around with your installer I can turn Ndure protagonist's "Regarding which, it seems there's an improvement opportunity for users with non-'retail' installs" into "Put the files 'n shit here and Live works!".
Good work aswell Ndure protagonist.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: [BR]TAD on September 05, 2005, 06:41:00 PM
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Hi
How I can get acess to FTP to upload the files ???
My Xbox is unmodded.
I havent a memory card or action replay too.
Thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 05, 2005, 09:53:00 PM
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you can make a xboxhdm cd with teh files and hotswap and copy the files..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: [BR]TAD on September 06, 2005, 02:18:00 AM
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Hi
I have a CD with UXE for XboxHDM (but I never tried to softmod with it), like your tutorial explain.
But I want to install the Ndure Softmod. Can you explain me, how to do a CD with Ndure for XboxHDM ???
Thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ArjanDotOrg on September 07, 2005, 02:41:00 AM
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kingroach, thank you very much for your great installer.
It did everything we wished for.
This is really, really cool!!!
I installed it on an Xbox that had already been softmodded with an old and outdated softmod.
I made a step-by-step guide for the way I installed it: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=438854
Thanks again!
This post has been edited by ArjanDotOrg: Sep 7 2005, 09:44 AM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 07, 2005, 07:43:00 AM
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.. The xbmc installation part would be handy for people who like to install XBMC.. many people ends up being Freeze on xbmc due to xboxmediacenter.cml part..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: tetsuo55 on September 07, 2005, 02:02:00 PM
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Any chance of adding the new NKpatcher?
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=439441
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 07, 2005, 03:39:00 PM
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yes.. in next few days after some testing.. :)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: tetsuo55 on September 08, 2005, 05:45:00 AM
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Cool thanks
now all i need is the hdtv cable ;)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: [BR]TAD on September 08, 2005, 12:12:00 PM
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Hi
I need help with Ndure Package for XboxHDM.
I did it, but I dont know if it the correct way.
1. I downloaded the Ndure 2.1 and XboxHDM 1.9
2. Then, I Extracted each one of them in a separate folder.
3. Then, I did the Ndure's Setup (custom).
4. Then, I took the C and E folder from the Ndure installation and placed inside the linux folder of XboxHDM folder, and overwrited them.
5. Then, I made a linux.iso by clicking in make-iso-win.bat.
6. Then, I burned the linux.iso
Is that all ???
Thanks
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TAD: Sep 8 2005, 07:19 PM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 08, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
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you need to hotswap your xbox hard drive.. then boot into vga mode ( option 1).. After booting, type "xbrowser" and copy the files from your cd to xbox.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: [BR]TAD on September 08, 2005, 04:12:00 PM
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Hi
So my steps for creating a Ndure with XboxHDM is wrong ???
Just download Ndure and setup it, and put the files from the setup in a CD and burn ???
Thanx
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 08, 2005, 06:47:00 PM
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no your procedure is correct.. it is after you burn the cd, you need to hotswap and copy the files.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on September 14, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
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Similarly, the "Retail" type could install the renamed "Basic" type's folder, so users can also toggle to/from the "Fonts" setup if they want to...
UPDATE (re. Ndure 2.1 at least): Since a different ernie.xtf is used for each install type, that would also need to be toggled...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 14, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
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just renaming bios.xbe to dula.xbe would be enough and also renaming dual.xbe first to something else for switching back ability.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Loranga on September 16, 2005, 04:47:00 AM
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First of all.. there´s been a long time since a last modded a xbox (soldering and tsop flash). Today a bought a xbox for my littlesister and I thought to mod it with Ndure installer for Pc. I havent got the ndure files yet so I havent read the nfo, but I read the nfo for ndure 1.0 and there it said you need a actionreplay, but I wonder if you need a actionreplay to do this (Ndure Installer for Pc?
I was thinking of using my mechassult and memcard to acces the C: via ftp and then transfer the files via FTP. Is this possible?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 16, 2005, 05:56:00 AM
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yes you can..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Cio on September 16, 2005, 06:03:00 AM
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The action replay is needed if you dont have any other way of getting an exploit savegame on the xbox (another modded box and memory unit for example).
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Loranga on September 16, 2005, 06:21:00 AM
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Thanks for the quick reply. Tonight I will buy some smokebeers (http://www.schlenker...schreibunge.htm) and try to make this woork.
Cheers
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Loranga on September 16, 2005, 06:47:00 AM
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Thanks for the quick reply. Tonight I will buy some smokebeers Thanks for the quick reply. Tonight I will buy some smokebeers Schlenkerla and try to make this woork.
Cheers
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on September 17, 2005, 12:48:00 PM
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Thanks kingroach and for your idea about enhancing the 2.1 toolset re. the Ndure 'fonts' setup. I'm going to see if I can do that...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on September 17, 2005, 03:36:00 PM
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Here's the resultant Install Menu (plus other minor enhancements): http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...dpost&p=2928834
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Loranga on September 19, 2005, 04:06:00 AM
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Aloha,
I tried this mod this weekend and it workel like a charm ... almost.
I've got the mod to work when I bot with the power button but when I try to boot with the eject button I got a error 21. I tried to repair c: with the ndure toolset but I get an error when trying to repair.
Did I do something wrong beacuse I deleted C: and E: and transfered the C: and E: the Ndure installation program made.
Now to my question: in the folder shadowC I only have 2 files is this correct?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Cio on September 19, 2005, 04:54:00 AM
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Read the readme.. you should apply the installer to a folder containing your stock C drive files (or the M$dash function wont work).
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 19, 2005, 07:42:00 AM
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you need MS dashboard files in C:\, the files are :
Audio
fonts
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xodash ( other files in there)
you can get the files from slayers disk..and yes, there is only two files in shadowc folder.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 21, 2005, 01:46:00 AM
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After completing the setup, I got error 21. I think this was because I used the wrong fonts. I tried to "get clever" and use kernel-specific fonts, but I'm not entirely sure now whether I should have trusted XBMC to tell me what kernel I have.
No matter, sez I. After all, I have my EEPROM and a XBoxHDM disk to hand, so I'll just re-install my trusty UXE-Complete v2.2 - no joy. I still get error 21. Oops.
The only thing I can think of to blame is that I left the E drive intact both times. I'm just going to back that up and then re-install again. What are the chances that I have screwed it up beyond all repair this time? If so, what exactly did I get wrong?
EDIT: I just realised, I have no idea how to back up files from the X-Box drive other than by using FTP. >_<
Suggestions welcome?
This post has been edited by DaBiscuit: Sep 21 2005, 08:48 AM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 21, 2005, 06:48:00 AM
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thats the problem.. both Ndure complete and uxe complete has dashboard in E:| drive.. you didnt copy that.. you should still be able to boot burnedl disk and ftp in E drive folders.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 21, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
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Heh. Yeah, the last install I did was UXE complete 2.1 which has the dash on C, I seem to recall. This was 2.2, and the dash has moved to E. Thanks for the help, that seems to have fixed my UXE install. I'm going to sleep on it before I do the NDURE install again.
Thanks very much for your reply. I can't believe I made such a n00bish mistake. I've done loads of softmods in which the C drive was the only one that counted, so I guess I just... didn't read the README. Sorry. :(
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: morningla on September 23, 2005, 12:19:00 PM
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These are not the only method to get files on your xbox right?
I remembered long time ago, I connected my HDD to my computer, that way is more complicated for beginners though. I scerwed up my HDD LOCK KEY and broke a wasted a Harddrive.
Am I correct? there are only these methods to get stuff on your unmodded xbox.
1) connect through computer's harddrive ATA Cables
2) xbox remote controller memory card
3) Action replay, which i don't know what it is lol
4) another modded xbox
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on September 23, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
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um 2,3,4 is actually the same thing
3 is a program to xfer files from pc to xbox
and 4 would require a mem card to move files ;)
basically there is two ;)
1) PC to XBOX (IDE)
2) PC to XBOX , XBOX TO XBOX, AR TO XBOX, (memcard)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 24, 2005, 06:48:00 AM
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I've had another try at installing NDURE. Honestly, I don't think it likes me. This time, I got error 13. I'm guessing this is because I used generic fonts when I should have used kernel-specific.
Not to sound like the world's worst n00b, but how exacltly do I know which kernel I have?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 24, 2005, 07:18:00 AM
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Sorry for the double post, but I figured it out. XBMC can tell me what kernel I have, and for the record it is 5530. I used the specific fonts, and I also finally realised that I should be using nkpatcher.6 rather than .67 - I guess I got there in the end. NDURE is now running on my box just fine.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: schwiz on September 25, 2005, 10:19:00 AM
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ok i have ndure installer pack 1.0 but, when you say run installer i dont know what you mean. i have a folder that says rescue disc, one that says sc save 1, and save 2. where is the "installer"
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 25, 2005, 12:27:00 PM
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you downloaded krazye's ndure installer.. thats a gamesave, if you look at xbins right under krazye's folder , there is "kingroachs installer" folder.. get it from that folder.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 25, 2005, 07:31:00 PM
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I'm really happy with NDURE, it works so much better for me than UXE. It took me a while to get it up and running, but I think I've made a mistake of some kind.
I don't seem to get the "dual boot" effect. Whether I power on with the Eject button or the Power button, same result. What have I done wrong?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 25, 2005, 08:10:00 PM
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what happens when you power on with eject button?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 26, 2005, 07:19:00 AM
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The box powers up, shows the "Unleash-X" logo, then I get to my Unleash-X dash. What's confusing me is that both ways seem to result in me being only able to access the Shadow C. The only way I can access the real C is if I load "NDURE Toolset".
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 26, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
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sneaky picy.. I am 95% done with Ndure installer for xboxhdm.. so installation of ndure should go painless.. The installer also will be much quicker since instead of creating shadowc like uxe installer, it will just use pre-made shadowc , which is faster. The installer will be integrated with Ndure installer so you can create our own setup and if you choose option, installer will create a package to use with xboxhdm.. :)
(IMG:http://www.photohosting.info/uploads/28808fc7bb.jpg)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: jcupp114 on September 28, 2005, 08:08:00 PM
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King when will the final touches be on the ndure hdm addon? Take care
jcupp114
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: jcupp114 on September 28, 2005, 08:08:00 PM
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sorry for the double
This post has been edited by jcupp114: Sep 29 2005, 03:09 AM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 28, 2005, 08:47:00 PM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: [BR]TAD on October 01, 2005, 06:44:00 AM
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Thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: rgtaa on October 04, 2005, 06:22:00 AM
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could you put in option for easter egg exploit?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on October 04, 2005, 07:12:00 AM
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I am waiting for the developement of a better easter egg exploit..
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=444280
it already runs on all xbox except 57++ , but xman is working on it..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 15, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
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I have a couple of questions.
1. Now, are you saying there that after the C folder has been patched, you should no longer have a fonts folder?
2. Can I just delete my entire C drive and copy this over?
3. Do I need to copy over whats in E also for this to work or is it optional?
My first attempt at installing this didn't go so well. I got a black screen after the MS splash screen so this time I'm asking questions first before I install it again.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on October 15, 2005, 07:55:00 PM
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you need to copy the files in E drive.. only the "dash" folder is necessary.. others not..
now if you choose retail installation then you will have teh fonts folder.. if you choose only the basic option then you wont have fonts folder.. basic is similar to UXE where teh retail option allows you to play xbox live.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 15, 2005, 08:39:00 PM
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I dont think this installer likes me. I copied eveything to C and the dask folder to E and I get the same problem I had last time. A black screen after the MS Splash screen. :\
Maybe I should just trying the retail and basic install.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on October 15, 2005, 08:43:00 PM
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did you choose your kernal specific fonts when making the files?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 15, 2005, 09:31:00 PM
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No, I chose everything.(Well, it did when I ticked it) Should I not do that?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 16, 2005, 12:22:00 AM
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I was able to get Ndure working. I guess not chosing the right Kernal was the problem.
But, I have another problem. I cant access the network settings for Xbox live in the MS dash. After i select it, it acts like its going to load, but just stays at a black screen. Do you know whats wrong?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on October 16, 2005, 12:52:00 AM
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usual place. Who's your daddy!Post by: ipodder2003 on August 04, 2005, 11:52:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on August 04, 2005, 08:42:00 PM
.. Its in the same package as in Ndure 2.0.. just choose your gamesave from the menu.
Post by: runtotheoutsidebob on August 05, 2005, 07:55:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on August 05, 2005, 08:43:00 PM
xbedump bios.xbe -habibi
this will output a file named out.xbe.. just rename it to bios.xbe and replace.
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 06, 2005, 11:49:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Aug 4 2005, 11:56 AM)
CODE
INSTALL MENU:
1. Basic setup: This install Ndure basic setup. Includes shadowc in C:\shadowc. Dash is in E:\dash\.
2. Retail setup: This installs Ndure retail setup. Retail setup install tray state booting. Tray closed boots unleashx and tray open boots retail msdash. which can be used to go to xbox live.
3. De-Activate Ndure: De activates softmod. In the next reboot, xbox will boot in complete retail state.
4. Activate Ndure: As stated, it activates de-activated softmod install.
FONTS MENU:
Installs yor kernel specific fonts. You can also choose to install scraps fonts if your xbox hangs at startup screen.
BACKUP/RESTORE MENU:
1. Backup C drive: Backs up C drive in E:\backup folder. This is important if you want to take benefit of the various restore funcktions of the installer.
2. Backup eeprom: Backs up eeprom with evox.
3. Refresh C drive: Repair C drive. If you used backup option before, it will restore the backup and also install ndure retail setup.
4. Repair retail dash: This will repair the dash if dashupdate occurs for any reason.
5. Restore C drive: Same as C refresh. Restores C drive from E:\backup.
6. Restore C from slayers: Restores C drive from slayers disk 2.6. Use this if your somehow mess up C drive and dont have a backup.You will also need slayers disk burned in a CD/DVD. Insert the disk when instructed.
MISC. OPTIONS:
1. Use Nkpatcher.67: Uses Nkpatcher.67 instead of the default one. Use this if you want F+G drive and have an HD larger than 137GB.
2. Install Virtual eeprom: For this you need to use backup eeprom option first. It will install backed up eeprom as virtual eeprom in C:\shadowc.
3. Install evox: Install evox as an application in E:\apps\
1. Basic setup: This install Ndure basic setup. Includes shadowc in C:\shadowc. Dash is in E:\dash\.
2. Retail setup: This installs Ndure retail setup. Retail setup install tray state booting. Tray closed boots unleashx and tray open boots retail msdash. which can be used to go to xbox live.
3. De-Activate Ndure: De activates softmod. In the next reboot, xbox will boot in complete retail state.
4. Activate Ndure: As stated, it activates de-activated softmod install.
FONTS MENU:
Installs yor kernel specific fonts. You can also choose to install scraps fonts if your xbox hangs at startup screen.
BACKUP/RESTORE MENU:
1. Backup C drive: Backs up C drive in E:\backup folder. This is important if you want to take benefit of the various restore funcktions of the installer.
2. Backup eeprom: Backs up eeprom with evox.
3. Refresh C drive: Repair C drive. If you used backup option before, it will restore the backup and also install ndure retail setup.
4. Repair retail dash: This will repair the dash if dashupdate occurs for any reason.
5. Restore C drive: Same as C refresh. Restores C drive from E:\backup.
6. Restore C from slayers: Restores C drive from slayers disk 2.6. Use this if your somehow mess up C drive and dont have a backup.You will also need slayers disk burned in a CD/DVD. Insert the disk when instructed.
MISC. OPTIONS:
1. Use Nkpatcher.67: Uses Nkpatcher.67 instead of the default one. Use this if you want F+G drive and have an HD larger than 137GB.
2. Install Virtual eeprom: For this you need to use backup eeprom option first. It will install backed up eeprom as virtual eeprom in C:\shadowc.
3. Install evox: Install evox as an application in E:\apps\
kingroach, you posted "Its in the same package as in Ndure 2.0" ... I thought the Ndure Toolset, bigger ShadowC, 21MB "future use" filler etc. were new in version 2.1?
Post by: kingroach on August 06, 2005, 12:07:00 PM
typo.. its in Ndure 2.1..
Post by: runtotheoutsidebob on August 06, 2005, 01:53:00 PM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 07, 2005, 12:45:00 AM
In the original thread wrayal had some (mind blowing!) ideas related to that and garyopa was investigating it at the file level (IIRC).
rmenhal originally looked into it and found that, alas, MS do seem to have done a great job preempting us. However, I'm not going to say "it can't be done"; that's been said about things that eventually were!
(Btw, please post further related matters in the original thread or a new one.)
Post by: Cio on August 07, 2005, 07:19:00 AM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Aug 4 2005, 01:16 AM)
I'm going to wait until Krayzie's ndure installer comes out.
This neither deserves to be posted nor does it deserve any real reply. You might wanna consider your options and try to grasp the fact that krayzie was not active in the early testing and thus is more likely to make mistakes (ok.. so he probably wont.. but then again if your so unsure?)
Post by: krayzie on August 07, 2005, 07:46:00 AM
QUOTE(Cio @ Aug 7 2005, 02:54 PM)
This neither deserves to be posted nor does it deserve any real reply. You might wanna consider your options and try to grasp the fact that krayzie was not active in the early testing and thus is more likely to make mistakes (ok.. so he probably wont.. but then again if your so unsure?)
If it doesn't deserve any reply why are you replying to this 3 day old post?
Also I was toying with UEEE (so basically this xonlinedashexploit) before it even came out. Then add the fact that textbook (amongst others) allready tested my beta version (with succes I migth add)so this remark isn't even relevant anymore.
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 07, 2005, 10:25:00 AM
I anticipate that, like his other, it will be an awesome way for the masses to benefit from rmenhal's achievements (who hopefully will be primarily credited for its content this time).
I think there will be an ongoing "market" for kingroach's installer too, just like there still is/was for "UXE Complete". Regarding which, I believe that "Ndure Complete" is possible...
Anyone interested in kingroach's installer potentially providing an end-to-end, self-contained Ndure implementation (that thereby doesn't need an exploitable game)?
Post by: Cio on August 07, 2005, 10:34:00 AM
It was ment to show that the poster has little to add, besides that most n00bs want to see only one person providing them with automated help. And who better then a moderator.
I cant stand the fact that someone would bring down kingroach's work by posting stuff like "ill wait for this and this guy to release" since it bascily implies what he's done so far is not to be trusted.
@Kingroach (and everyone else interested)
My sig now also contains a way to finding the 2.1 installer (mirror updated) and a fully functional n00b proof savegame/install disk or xboxhdm&ndure basic/install disk combo.
@Eh
The Ndure basic setup as i mentioned in the original thread has been online for a while, but was rejected from xbins for "having little to add to the current exploit market". If someone else wishes to submit the basic files, i wish you luck. You'll need it (or a reputation).
Post by: kingroach on August 07, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
Theres always a "brand name" I guess.. and "Krazye" is a brand that many people believe in I guess.. so no need of a flame war. . "Iriez" doesnt visit this forum anymore I guess.. I PM'd him twice about my uxe package for xbxohdm and never got any reply back.. CIO was the first person with any kind of installer ( I still use the reduced "media" folder proposed) but that time nobody was interested in Ndure and its benefits were unknown..anyway. there is downside of any gamesave installer too.. like most xbox's that were shipped with 4920 dash still has Xbox.xtf and Xbox Book.xtf file in C:\ root.. that can cause a problem when autometically filling up C:\ with shadowc.. and Unleashx or any other dash missing the "If file exist" like command so that when a particular file is detected it would delete that.. unleasx gives some error if theres a delete command for Xbxo./Xbox book.xtf and if the file is not found..
@CIO.. I got you PM.. i updated the urls too in my site..thnx..
@Ndure protagonist
I will update ( not soon but when get enough time) the UXE package for xboxhdm with ndure funcktion so people who still hotswap and install exploit can install ndure with ease..
Post by: krayzie on August 07, 2005, 11:28:00 AM
Also I would like to settle things about me being "against" Ndure. I was never against it. It might have took me a while to understand it's full potential though (which didn't seem that strange to me cuz off all that crytology stuff Eh used to convince everybody. That might have made me not wanna read any further many times).
I also thought Ndure was a bit too overhyped sometimes and some off the arguments were simply exaggerated or just not true.
In the beginning I always opped I'd make an Ndure Installer once i'd get the time for it so I hope you don't see me making one as some kind of contest in who has the best installer cuz I don't care about that. I have my own installer line so switching to Ndure is just a logical step since it's just a better exploit and we just have to move on.
In the end I like the Ndure exploit very much and I am gratefull to the people who introduced and developed it to what it is now. Also I wanna apologize to anyone who might have feel offended in my sometimes critical reactions.
Post by: krayzie on August 07, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Aug 7 2005, 07:28 PM)
there is downside of any gamesave installer too.. like most xbox's that were shipped with 4920 dash still has Xbox.xtf and Xbox Book.xtf file in C:\ root.. that can cause a problem when autometically filling up C:\ with shadowc.. and Unleashx or any other dash missing the "If file exist" like command so that when a particular file is detected it would delete that.. unleasx gives some error if theres a delete command for Xbxo./Xbox book.xtf and if the file is not found..there are two simple workarounds for that.
1. first copy dummy files to c root naming them as the xtf files to ensure it won't error on deletion
2. make the filler so large it would cover the space without the fonts (or even larger). there won't be an error if the file is larger then the space present so all bytes are used.
Post by: Textbook on August 07, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
Post by: ipodder2003 on August 07, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
That's the end to my heartwarming post. Carry on.
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 07, 2005, 03:04:00 PM
kingroach, I'm optimistic that Ndure 2.1 can become "Ndure Complete" (its 21MB filler's there intentionally) so maybe wait a bit longer re. the xboxhdm package...
Post by: DaddyJ on August 07, 2005, 03:22:00 PM
His installers are better than my installers , which are better than his installers, which are better than mine, this isnt a contest, its a place to come and learn and discover the potentional for making your xbox a hella lot better, hell when i first hit the boards, i needed hotswapping help, now i consider myself a hotswapping master, but that was after i read & read, and then even wrote my own hotswapping guide.
Fact is, we need ipodders installers, and we need krayzies installers, and we need kings's packages/installers, and we need all these other peoples works as well.
Who's is better, (
mine after I rip all they sh|t ) Just kidding
Post by: kingroach on August 07, 2005, 04:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 7 2005, 11:15 PM)
kingroach, I'm optimistic that Ndure 2.1 can become "Ndure Complete" (its 21MB filler's there intentionally) so maybe wait a bit longer re. the xboxhdm package...
I wont start working on that until next month.. but then my college will be open.
. so theres plenty of times.. King of the roaches pwn you all..
not even nuke can kill me..
Post by: alfonse on August 08, 2005, 11:24:00 AM
I have used the kingroach's installer (2.0 haven't tested the 2.1) and I succesfully installed NDURE on my xbox. I used the generic fonts, however I have a problem with NDURE.
When I start my xbox in an unmodded state (eject button), the MS dash starts, but I am unable to watch DVD video discs (either originals or backups). I am however able to play Audio Cds. When I put a DVD video, it just shows a black screen and nothing else. I have the DVD kit.
The interesting part is that, when I start my xbox in a modded state (power button) I am able to watch the DVDs, I can start the MS dash from my virtual C and play them. I even tested to load a different bios(iND Bios) and start the MS dash on the real C (msxboxdash.xbe) and the dash plays ok the DVDs.
I was using the Krayzie's 2.7 installer, before I decided to switch to NDURE.
What could be causing such strange behaviour?
My xbox specs:
NTSC 1.4 Xbox with Focus Encoder
5713 Kernel
Thanks in advance for any insight on this.
Post by: 2121oyoy on August 08, 2005, 11:04:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on August 08, 2005, 11:22:00 AM
its most like for the settings_adoc.xip file.. Ndure needs this file to be deleted and thus creating the problem.. I dig around this and let you know soon..
@2121oyoy
its ready to ftp or use with xboxhdm.. I too always like the manual method since you get an idea how the thing works and if something goes wrong , you can troubleshoot it easily.
Post by: alfonse on August 08, 2005, 12:06:00 PM
Post by: sketch_uk2000 on August 08, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
Post by: krayzie on August 08, 2005, 01:01:00 PM
QUOTE(sketch_uk2000 @ Aug 8 2005, 08:25 PM)
Quick question is it possible to patch the shadowc xboxdash.xbe to make it region free
offcourse.
Post by: sketch_uk2000 on August 08, 2005, 02:02:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on August 08, 2005, 05:13:00 PM
Post by: Dolfhin on August 08, 2005, 07:33:00 PM
What exactly are the advantages of Ndure above the previous exploits?
Post by: kingroach on August 08, 2005, 08:46:00 PM
the only visible advantage of Ndure is that it uses fonts in C:\xodash\ and therefore you can use the retail dash just by changing its name , no need for Fonts>f0nts patching.. so it allows you to boot to msdash in unexploited mode using closed-retail.xbe. so you can have XBl access without coldboot.
Post by: krayzie on August 08, 2005, 11:13:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Aug 9 2005, 04:57 AM)
All UDE+ exploits are clock loop free so you can shut off your xbox as long as you like.. it is said that Ndure is more stable than UDE/UXE but its all due to the fonts used by Ndure.. and the stability is not always visible.. for some xbox , UXE hangs if you change settings like parantel controls, language etc. but for Ndure it doesnt happen.. But this hanging of UXE is a rare case..
the only visible advantage of Ndure is that it uses fonts in C:\xodash\ and therefore you can use the retail dash just by changing its name , no need for Fonts>f0nts patching.. so it allows you to boot to msdash in unexploited mode using closed-retail.xbe. so you can have XBl access without coldboot.
the only visible advantage of Ndure is that it uses fonts in C:\xodash\ and therefore you can use the retail dash just by changing its name , no need for Fonts>f0nts patching.. so it allows you to boot to msdash in unexploited mode using closed-retail.xbe. so you can have XBl access without coldboot.
and offcourse not to forget it allows gameupdates from coldbooted games (or booted via eject retail function). and some games that require the fonts do not hang from coldboots or via the retail eject function.
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 09, 2005, 07:05:00 AM
Post by: Dolfhin on August 09, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
Post by: xman954 on August 09, 2005, 11:51:00 AM
used your 2.1 pkg and it looks to work fine, 496MB replacment C:\
but did notice the the Legacy fonts were removed, are they not needed any more ?
and also does anyone know where i can find the SRC for closed-retail.xbe
the one that patches back the public key...
thanks
Post by: kingroach on August 09, 2005, 11:56:00 AM
Post by: xman954 on August 09, 2005, 12:31:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Aug 9 2005, 01:31 PM)
no pre-live fonts are not needed anymore.. I dont have the direct lick but the closed-retail and dualboot .xbe and source are hosted in the xguides.xbox-scene.com ( AFAIK)..
not there, but a good site with good stuff
i will keep searching
thanks
Post by: krayzie on August 09, 2005, 11:58:00 AM
Post by: Cio on August 11, 2005, 07:43:00 AM
to you all, Eh, kingroach, ipodder, krayzie AND OFCOURSE ALL OTHERS EXPLORING POSSIBILITIES! I didn't intend to start a flame war, or offend anyone, but my not so good mood kinda spoiled that.Although, just for the record, at the same time i posted my "basic" setup, with stripped media folder, i released an installer via my homepage and submitted it to xbins via normal e-mail.
At that point, XBL/update coldboot support was implemented & tested with legacy fonts, no chance of errors (besides user ones!) and my ndure/install CD for xbox was released at the same time as kingroach came with the ndure installer for PC.
Thus, like ipodder, i feel somewhat bitter over both devz3ro's and krayzie's apathy towards ndure. For me the fact that everyone can now use ndure with ease and benefit better XBL/settings compatibility means more, so honestly i couldn't care less then when it was "my work" that was used.
If this turns out as a way to steal credit though....
I'm just gonna go fix my 2 broken xboxes for now, and let the bigshots handle this. They seem to get things in place faster and more effective (no sarcasm here!) so i might as well keep out.
If anyone needs more testers, hosting, file help etcetc, please let me know, my main goal is to help out a community that (via me) liberated not only my xbox, but those of countless friends and family members who can now watch movies, play mario party, listen to music etc wherever they want, without hassle.
So "respeca" and thx to all of you, may the force be with you
Post by: krayzie on August 11, 2005, 08:21:00 AM
Some of you just created an atmosphere in where Ndure was the bomb and UXE was bad and dangerous. UXE is still the current #1 used exploit and it think it deserved its high status. Ndure offers some good impovements but it's not like it's WAY better.
And i still don't understand it why is everybody feeling bitter all of the sudden. Isn't this a free community anymore? Was I not permitted to upgrade my installer to Ndure? I made anouncements in a very early stage although my schedual didn't allow it at that point. If people then decide to make one themselves they should not complain when someone else makes one too.
By the way I also used some codes of Rmenhal, dr oldschool, Xman, angerwound and probably many others. I hereby give all of the people provided code or setups many many credits and i hope they don't consider it stealing when I'm using "their"stuff.
Post by: kingroach on August 11, 2005, 08:58:00 AM
on the offtopic, I just installed OSX into my HP computer.. if that makes someone happy.. in your face apple..
Post by: ipodder2003 on August 11, 2005, 11:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Cio @ Aug 11 2005, 08:18 AM)
to you all, Eh, kingroach, ipodder, krayzie AND OFCOURSE ALL OTHERS EXPLORING POSSIBILITIES! I didn't intend to start a flame war, or offend anyone, but my not so good mood kinda spoiled that.Although, just for the record, at the same time i posted my "basic" setup, with stripped media folder, i released an installer via my homepage and submitted it to xbins via normal e-mail.
At that point, XBL/update coldboot support was implemented & tested with legacy fonts, no chance of errors (besides user ones!) and my ndure/install CD for xbox was released at the same time as kingroach came with the ndure installer for PC.
Thus, like ipodder, i feel somewhat bitter over both devz3ro's and krayzie's apathy towards ndure. For me the fact that everyone can now use ndure with ease and benefit better XBL/settings compatibility means more, so honestly i couldn't care less then when it was "my work" that was used.
If this turns out as a way to steal credit though....
I'm just gonna go fix my 2 broken xboxes for now, and let the bigshots handle this. They seem to get things in place faster and more effective (no sarcasm here!) so i might as well keep out.
If anyone needs more testers, hosting, file help etcetc, please let me know, my main goal is to help out a community that (via me) liberated not only my xbox, but those of countless friends and family members who can now watch movies, play mario party, listen to music etc wherever they want, without hassle.
So "respeca" and thx to all of you, may the force be with you
I wasn't ever bitter, I posted that a couple pages back. We're all for the same team here, and I expected krayzie's installer to get waves of attention and mine to only be used by a select few, and quite honestly, I'm pretty glad. I doubt a lowly "Member" status person such as myself's PM box could handle the onslaught of messages from noobs who don't understand.
Cheers guys.
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 13, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 7 2005, 11:36 AM)
I'm very pleased that krayzie has created an Ndure gamesave installer, and glad I was wrong about him just sticking with UXE!
I anticipate that, like his other, it will be an awesome way for the masses to benefit from rmenhal's achievements (who hopefully will be primarily credited for its content this time).
I think there will be an ongoing "market" for kingroach's installer too, just like there still is/was for "UXE Complete". Regarding which, I believe that "Ndure Complete" is possible...
Anyone interested in kingroach's installer potentially providing an end-to-end, self-contained Ndure implementation (that thereby doesn't need an exploitable game)?
Regarding my above "offer" (to begin with*):I anticipate that, like his other, it will be an awesome way for the masses to benefit from rmenhal's achievements (who hopefully will be primarily credited for its content this time).
I think there will be an ongoing "market" for kingroach's installer too, just like there still is/was for "UXE Complete". Regarding which, I believe that "Ndure Complete" is possible...
Anyone interested in kingroach's installer potentially providing an end-to-end, self-contained Ndure implementation (that thereby doesn't need an exploitable game)?
Some may recall that kernel versions up to 5530 can run a font exploit that uses /C/bert.xtf and /C/ernie.xtf (it resulted from rmenhal's original double dash exploit).
Well, with Ndure it can be used as a "double dash easter egg" (DDEE) exploit, to get back from the live console enabled 185ead00 dash (except for K:5713/5838).
This DDEE requires 21 MB on my 3944's real C, which is one of the reasons for 2.1's filler of that size...
(*I will start a new topic ASAP to provide details about various Ndure 2.1 opportunities, including this.)
Post by: kingroach on August 13, 2005, 11:47:00 AM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 13 2005, 07:13 PM)
Regarding my above "offer" (to begin with*):
Some may recall that kernel versions up to 5530 can run a font exploit that uses /C/bert.xtf and /C/ernie.xtf (it resulted from rmenhal's original double dash exploit).
Well, with Ndure it can be used as a "double dash easter egg" (DDEE) exploit, to get back from the live console enabled 185ead00 dash (except for K:5713/5838).
This DDEE requires 21 MB on my 3944's real C, which is one of the reasons for 2.1's filler of that size...
(*I will start a new topic ASAP to provide details about various Ndure 2.1 opportunities, including this.)
Some may recall that kernel versions up to 5530 can run a font exploit that uses /C/bert.xtf and /C/ernie.xtf (it resulted from rmenhal's original double dash exploit).
Well, with Ndure it can be used as a "double dash easter egg" (DDEE) exploit, to get back from the live console enabled 185ead00 dash (except for K:5713/5838).
This DDEE requires 21 MB on my 3944's real C, which is one of the reasons for 2.1's filler of that size...
(*I will start a new topic ASAP to provide details about various Ndure 2.1 opportunities, including this.)
Post by: krayzie on August 13, 2005, 04:29:00 PM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 13 2005, 07:13 PM)
Regarding my above "offer" (to begin with*):
Some may recall that kernel versions up to 5530 can run a font exploit that uses /C/bert.xtf and /C/ernie.xtf (it resulted from rmenhal's original double dash exploit).
Well, with Ndure it can be used as a "double dash easter egg" (DDEE) exploit, to get back from the live console enabled 185ead00 dash (except for K:5713/5838).
This DDEE requires 21 MB on my 3944's real C, which is one of the reasons for 2.1's filler of that size...
(*I will start a new topic ASAP to provide details about various Ndure 2.1 opportunities, including this.)
Some may recall that kernel versions up to 5530 can run a font exploit that uses /C/bert.xtf and /C/ernie.xtf (it resulted from rmenhal's original double dash exploit).
Well, with Ndure it can be used as a "double dash easter egg" (DDEE) exploit, to get back from the live console enabled 185ead00 dash (except for K:5713/5838).
This DDEE requires 21 MB on my 3944's real C, which is one of the reasons for 2.1's filler of that size...
(*I will start a new topic ASAP to provide details about various Ndure 2.1 opportunities, including this.)
Nice idea. I actually thought about making a SCEEE gateway back since that would work on all kernels. MA has this option too but a double dash is indeed much quicker and nicer.
This post has been edited by krayzie: Aug 13 2005, 11:30 PM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 13, 2005, 11:55:00 PM
krayzie, wouldn't the SCEEE and MAEEE setups break Ndure's automatic softmod protection though?
Post by: krayzie on August 14, 2005, 12:29:00 AM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 14 2005, 07:30 AM)
krayzie, wouldn't the SCEEE and MAEEE setups break Ndure's automatic softmod protection though?
In what way? Could you please clarify
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 14, 2005, 01:03:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on August 14, 2005, 01:12:00 AM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 14 2005, 08:38 AM)
If dashupdate.xbe runs when SCEEE or MAEEE are implemented then (due to the space they consume in xboxdashdata.185ead00) wouldn't it subsequently overwrite xboxdash.xbe and the xodash directory plus contents, thereby clobbering the softmod (if it's not manually interrupted in time)?
Hmmm yeah I see your point. So the executable would have to be smaller then the previous settings_adoc.xip in order for the update to fail. Thanks
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 14, 2005, 11:14:00 AM
QUOTE(krayzie @ Aug 14 2005, 01:47 AM)
Hmmm yeah I see your point. So the executable would have to be smaller then the previous settings_adoc.xip in order for the update to fail. Thanks
The executable plus any support files needed in xboxdashdata.185ead00 too...
Post by: krayzie on August 14, 2005, 10:46:00 AM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 14, 2005, 12:48:00 PM
However, as proven on my 3944, non-K:5713/5838 users most likely could be using 'DDEEE' instead, which doesn't break Ndure's softmod protection.
Also, I anticipate that K:3944-5838 users will all have other EEE alternatives, eventually. (I'm surprised no one seems to have noticed that aspect of "eh."'s final posts, profile info. and sig...)
Post by: kingroach on August 14, 2005, 02:37:00 PM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 14 2005, 08:59 PM)
That's for sure, but let's remember that the risk of the softmod ever being clobbered (due to SCEEE or MAEEE being installed) is therefore low.
However, as proven on my 3944, non-K:5713/5838 users most likely could be using 'DDEEE' instead, which doesn't break Ndure's softmod protection.
Also, I anticipate that K:3944-5838 users will all have other EEE alternatives, eventually. (I'm surprised no one seems to have noticed that aspect of "eh."'s final posts, profile info. and sig...)
However, as proven on my 3944, non-K:5713/5838 users most likely could be using 'DDEEE' instead, which doesn't break Ndure's softmod protection.
Also, I anticipate that K:3944-5838 users will all have other EEE alternatives, eventually. (I'm surprised no one seems to have noticed that aspect of "eh."'s final posts, profile info. and sig...)
as usual your ourcolony /Ilovebee style posting confuse the shit out of all people..
do you mean that we can use 4920 xboxdash.xbe with teh hulk exploit.. so put xboxdash as settings_adoc.xip and create st.db for xboxdash.xbe that will run the exploit?.. That will be most beneficial since 5713/5838 users wont feel left out..
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 14, 2005, 02:33:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on August 14, 2005, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 14 2005, 10:44 PM)
kingroach, you're confusing eh.'s postings with mine, which I think is unfair (tee-hee) and I see that you understoood almost {??} all of the potential future exploit...
I dont know what I am doing... but heres a st.db I cooked up.. see if this works:
http://www.amarshonarbangla.com/kingroach/hulkstdb.asm
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 14, 2005, 11:16:00 PM
I think you and others will soon be testing ST.DB's; this is the 'UDDAE' referenced in eh.'s profile (and sig, which links to an outline that includes 'UDD' setup info.)...
Post by: krayzie on August 15, 2005, 05:13:00 AM
Post by: ipodder2003 on August 15, 2005, 01:27:00 PM
Post by: RiceCake on August 15, 2005, 01:50:00 PM
http://xguides.xbox-.../users/rmenhal/
And since Xbedump is written from scratch, its also there.
http://xguides.xbox-...users/RiceCake/
I'm gonna tear down XGuides soon and put it all back up, been having alot of trouble lately. When its back up I'll probably build the FAQ section up to help take the stress off these forums. Tutorials as always will be a free-for-all.
Post by: chedabob on August 17, 2005, 04:37:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on August 17, 2005, 07:26:00 AM
Post by: tetsuo55 on August 17, 2005, 01:24:00 PM
when in reality i have 60 gb free, its a 160 gb harddisk
any ideas what im doing wrong?
works fine with ude
PS, booting to an orange powerled scared the shit out of me, thought i fragged it!
i notice that using this exploit you have to wait longer before the dash shows, it that normal?
Post by: kingroach on August 17, 2005, 12:52:00 PM
Post by: tetsuo55 on August 17, 2005, 12:53:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on August 17, 2005, 01:42:00 PM
This post has been edited by kingroach: Aug 17 2005, 08:43 PM
Post by: tetsuo55 on August 17, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
Edit: Disabling the 67 option fixed it
:)
when i coldboot with a burned disc inside i dont seem to have IGR is this normal?
This post has been edited by tetsuo55: Aug 17 2005, 08:48 PM
Post by: krayzie on August 17, 2005, 01:13:00 PM
Post by: tetsuo55 on August 17, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
the IGR is even better than with ude+pbl because it resets from disc to dash which i prefer :D
thansk for this great exploit+installer guys!!
time to remod all my boxes
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 19, 2005, 09:04:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...dpost&p=1977935
Post by: kingroach on August 19, 2005, 08:45:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on August 19, 2005, 08:58:00 AM
I wonder though....If the exploit is switched off and the dash gets updated (or at least an attmept to update it) wouldn't it error on the next boot and wouldn't it be hard to recover if the user doesn't have the exploited game.
Post by: _shinobi_ on August 20, 2005, 04:39:00 AM
I have a 200 MB C... can I still use the retail setup? (the shadowc img is too big...)
thanks
Post by: Cio on August 21, 2005, 03:09:00 AM
Also this installer creates ALL files needed for the exploit so you can clear out C (ofcourse only if you're gonna place the exploit straight away!)
Post by: kingroach on August 21, 2005, 07:46:00 AM
Post by: _shinobi_ on August 21, 2005, 09:25:00 AM
I've installed a new C, generated with Ndure 2.1, but now that I've done that, the new shadowc is empty... I have an empty C when I boot my xbox...
How is the shadowc.img is generated with Ndure setup??? Can I choose the files I want to put in?
thanks
Post by: kingroach on August 21, 2005, 09:15:00 AM
Audio
fonts
xodash
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xboxdash.xbe
or you can out whatever file you want to put in shadowc.
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 21, 2005, 10:53:00 AM
Re.
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 13 2005, 12:13 PM)
Regarding my above "offer" (to begin with*):
Some may recall that kernel versions up to 5530 can run a font exploit that uses /C/bert.xtf and /C/ernie.xtf (it resulted from rmenhal's original double dash exploit).
Well, with Ndure it can be used as a "double dash easter egg" (DDEE) exploit, to get back from the live console enabled 185ead00 dash (except for K:5713/5838).
This DDEE requires 21 MB on my 3944's real C, which is one of the reasons for 2.1's filler of that size...
(*I will start a new topic ASAP to provide details about various Ndure 2.1 opportunities, including this.)
this is the topic:Some may recall that kernel versions up to 5530 can run a font exploit that uses /C/bert.xtf and /C/ernie.xtf (it resulted from rmenhal's original double dash exploit).
Well, with Ndure it can be used as a "double dash easter egg" (DDEE) exploit, to get back from the live console enabled 185ead00 dash (except for K:5713/5838).
This DDEE requires 21 MB on my 3944's real C, which is one of the reasons for 2.1's filler of that size...
(*I will start a new topic ASAP to provide details about various Ndure 2.1 opportunities, including this.)
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=434088
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 26, 2005, 11:09:00 AM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 19 2005, 09:39 AM)
In case anyone's interested, the virtual C is a great way to try the "Uber Double Dash" and subsequently its easter-egg and audio exploits (UDDEE & UDDAE) initially...
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...dpost&p=1977935
which ST.DB will be used with these?.. normal double dash ST.DB <_< :unsure:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...dpost&p=1977935
QUOTE(kingroach @ Aug 19 2005, 09:56 AM)
which ST.DB will be used with these?.. normal double dash ST.DB <_< :unsure:
Easter-egg exploits (such as the UDDEE) don't require a special one and the answer re. UDDAE is in the linked post...
Post by: kingroach on August 27, 2005, 09:35:00 AM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 29, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on August 29, 2005, 11:22:00 AM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 29 2005, 04:48 PM)
kingroach, are you interested in further enhancing this installer re. "complete" (such as an Ndure 'fonts' setup and 'double-dash easter-egg' options)?
I am always up for adding things.. :) I actually already did something with packing them in to installer but I wont be able to do anything untill friday.. :( :(
Post by: Ndure protagonist on August 30, 2005, 09:37:00 AM
Regarding which, it seems there's an improvement opportunity for users with non-'retail' installs, as per: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...dpost&p=2858749
The Ndure 'fonts' setup is superior for those that just coldboot, because dashupdate.xbe's fail almost immediately (without significantly changing the real-C) plus it's unlikely to hang thereafter, even with the generic font.
If you're interested, a "Fonts" 'type of install' could be implemented by your installer as follows:
CODE
a. install the "Retail" type
b. rename the xboxdashdata.185ead00 directory (suitably)
c. rename the bios directory
d. install the "Basic" type's bios folder
e. add a couple of new menu entries to toggle between "Fonts" and "Retail" setups (by renaming the directories).
b. rename the xboxdashdata.185ead00 directory (suitably)
c. rename the bios directory
d. install the "Basic" type's bios folder
e. add a couple of new menu entries to toggle between "Fonts" and "Retail" setups (by renaming the directories).
Similarly, the "Retail" type could install the renamed "Basic" type's folder, so users can also toggle to/from the "Fonts" setup if they want to...
Post by: RiceCake on August 30, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
.Keep up the good work kingroach, because by poking around with your installer I can turn Ndure protagonist's "Regarding which, it seems there's an improvement opportunity for users with non-'retail' installs" into "Put the files 'n shit here and Live works!".
Good work aswell Ndure protagonist.
Post by: [BR]TAD on September 05, 2005, 06:41:00 PM
How I can get acess to FTP to upload the files ???
My Xbox is unmodded.
I havent a memory card or action replay too.
Thanks
Post by: kingroach on September 05, 2005, 09:53:00 PM
Post by: [BR]TAD on September 06, 2005, 02:18:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Sep 6 2005, 06:28 AM)
you can make a xboxhdm cd with teh files and hotswap and copy the files..
Hi
I have a CD with UXE for XboxHDM (but I never tried to softmod with it), like your tutorial explain.
But I want to install the Ndure Softmod. Can you explain me, how to do a CD with Ndure for XboxHDM ???
Thanks
Post by: ArjanDotOrg on September 07, 2005, 02:41:00 AM
It did everything we wished for.
This is really, really cool!!!
I installed it on an Xbox that had already been softmodded with an old and outdated softmod.
I made a step-by-step guide for the way I installed it: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=438854
Thanks again!
This post has been edited by ArjanDotOrg: Sep 7 2005, 09:44 AM
Post by: kingroach on September 07, 2005, 07:43:00 AM
.. The xbmc installation part would be handy for people who like to install XBMC.. many people ends up being Freeze on xbmc due to xboxmediacenter.cml part..
Post by: tetsuo55 on September 07, 2005, 02:02:00 PM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=439441
Post by: kingroach on September 07, 2005, 03:39:00 PM
QUOTE(tetsuo55 @ Sep 7 2005, 09:37 PM)
yes.. in next few days after some testing.. :)
Post by: tetsuo55 on September 08, 2005, 05:45:00 AM
now all i need is the hdtv cable ;)
Post by: [BR]TAD on September 08, 2005, 12:12:00 PM
I need help with Ndure Package for XboxHDM.
I did it, but I dont know if it the correct way.
1. I downloaded the Ndure 2.1 and XboxHDM 1.9
2. Then, I Extracted each one of them in a separate folder.
3. Then, I did the Ndure's Setup (custom).
4. Then, I took the C and E folder from the Ndure installation and placed inside the linux folder of XboxHDM folder, and overwrited them.
5. Then, I made a linux.iso by clicking in make-iso-win.bat.
6. Then, I burned the linux.iso
Is that all ???
Thanks
This post has been edited by
TAD: Sep 8 2005, 07:19 PM
Post by: kingroach on September 08, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
Post by: [BR]TAD on September 08, 2005, 04:12:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Sep 8 2005, 11:44 PM)
you need to hotswap your xbox hard drive.. then boot into vga mode ( option 1).. After booting, type "xbrowser" and copy the files from your cd to xbox.
Hi
So my steps for creating a Ndure with XboxHDM is wrong ???
Just download Ndure and setup it, and put the files from the setup in a CD and burn ???
Thanx
Post by: kingroach on September 08, 2005, 06:47:00 PM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on September 14, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Aug 30 2005, 10:12 AM)
CODE
a. install the "Retail" type
b. rename the xboxdashdata.185ead00 directory (suitably)
c. rename the bios directory
d. install the "Basic" type's bios folder
e. add a couple of new menu entries to toggle between "Fonts" and "Retail" setups (by renaming the directories).
b. rename the xboxdashdata.185ead00 directory (suitably)
c. rename the bios directory
d. install the "Basic" type's bios folder
e. add a couple of new menu entries to toggle between "Fonts" and "Retail" setups (by renaming the directories).
Similarly, the "Retail" type could install the renamed "Basic" type's folder, so users can also toggle to/from the "Fonts" setup if they want to...
UPDATE (re. Ndure 2.1 at least): Since a different ernie.xtf is used for each install type, that would also need to be toggled...
Post by: kingroach on September 14, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
Post by: Loranga on September 16, 2005, 04:47:00 AM
I was thinking of using my mechassult and memcard to acces the C: via ftp and then transfer the files via FTP. Is this possible?
Post by: kingroach on September 16, 2005, 05:56:00 AM
Post by: Cio on September 16, 2005, 06:03:00 AM
Post by: Loranga on September 16, 2005, 06:21:00 AM
Cheers
Post by: Loranga on September 16, 2005, 06:47:00 AM
Cheers
Post by: Ndure protagonist on September 17, 2005, 12:48:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Sep 14 2005, 12:19 PM)
just renaming bios.xbe to dula.xbe would be enough and also renaming dual.xbe first to something else for switching back ability.
Thanks kingroach and for your idea about enhancing the 2.1 toolset re. the Ndure 'fonts' setup. I'm going to see if I can do that...
Post by: Ndure protagonist on September 17, 2005, 03:36:00 PM
Post by: Loranga on September 19, 2005, 04:06:00 AM
I tried this mod this weekend and it workel like a charm ... almost.
I've got the mod to work when I bot with the power button but when I try to boot with the eject button I got a error 21. I tried to repair c: with the ndure toolset but I get an error when trying to repair.
Did I do something wrong beacuse I deleted C: and E: and transfered the C: and E: the Ndure installation program made.
Now to my question: in the folder shadowC I only have 2 files is this correct?
Post by: Cio on September 19, 2005, 04:54:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on September 19, 2005, 07:42:00 AM
Audio
fonts
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xodash ( other files in there)
you can get the files from slayers disk..and yes, there is only two files in shadowc folder.
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 21, 2005, 01:46:00 AM
No matter, sez I. After all, I have my EEPROM and a XBoxHDM disk to hand, so I'll just re-install my trusty UXE-Complete v2.2 - no joy. I still get error 21. Oops.
The only thing I can think of to blame is that I left the E drive intact both times. I'm just going to back that up and then re-install again. What are the chances that I have screwed it up beyond all repair this time? If so, what exactly did I get wrong?
EDIT: I just realised, I have no idea how to back up files from the X-Box drive other than by using FTP. >_<
Suggestions welcome?
This post has been edited by DaBiscuit: Sep 21 2005, 08:48 AM
Post by: kingroach on September 21, 2005, 06:48:00 AM
QUOTE
The only thing I can think of to blame is that I left the E drive intact both times.
thats the problem.. both Ndure complete and uxe complete has dashboard in E:| drive.. you didnt copy that.. you should still be able to boot burnedl disk and ftp in E drive folders.
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 21, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Sep 21 2005, 01:23 PM)
thats the problem.. both Ndure complete and uxe complete has dashboard in E:| drive.. you didnt copy that.. you should still be able to boot burnedl disk and ftp in E drive folders.
Heh. Yeah, the last install I did was UXE complete 2.1 which has the dash on C, I seem to recall. This was 2.2, and the dash has moved to E. Thanks for the help, that seems to have fixed my UXE install. I'm going to sleep on it before I do the NDURE install again.
Thanks very much for your reply. I can't believe I made such a n00bish mistake. I've done loads of softmods in which the C drive was the only one that counted, so I guess I just... didn't read the README. Sorry. :(
Post by: morningla on September 23, 2005, 12:19:00 PM
QUOTE(Cio @ Sep 16 2005, 01:38 PM)
The action replay is needed if you dont have any other way of getting an exploit savegame on the xbox (another modded box and memory unit for example).
These are not the only method to get files on your xbox right?
I remembered long time ago, I connected my HDD to my computer, that way is more complicated for beginners though. I scerwed up my HDD LOCK KEY and broke a wasted a Harddrive.
Am I correct? there are only these methods to get stuff on your unmodded xbox.
1) connect through computer's harddrive ATA Cables
2) xbox remote controller memory card
3) Action replay, which i don't know what it is lol
4) another modded xbox
Post by: JimmyGoon on September 23, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
QUOTE(morningla @ Sep 23 2005, 07:54 PM)
These are not the only method to get files on your xbox right?
I remembered long time ago, I connected my HDD to my computer, that way is more complicated for beginners though. I scerwed up my HDD LOCK KEY and broke a wasted a Harddrive.
Am I correct? there are only these methods to get stuff on your unmodded xbox.
1) connect through computer's harddrive ATA Cables
2) xbox remote controller memory card
3) Action replay, which i don't know what it is lol
4) another modded xbox
I remembered long time ago, I connected my HDD to my computer, that way is more complicated for beginners though. I scerwed up my HDD LOCK KEY and broke a wasted a Harddrive.
Am I correct? there are only these methods to get stuff on your unmodded xbox.
1) connect through computer's harddrive ATA Cables
2) xbox remote controller memory card
3) Action replay, which i don't know what it is lol
4) another modded xbox
um 2,3,4 is actually the same thing
3 is a program to xfer files from pc to xbox
and 4 would require a mem card to move files ;)
basically there is two ;)
1) PC to XBOX (IDE)
2) PC to XBOX , XBOX TO XBOX, AR TO XBOX, (memcard)
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 24, 2005, 06:48:00 AM
Not to sound like the world's worst n00b, but how exacltly do I know which kernel I have?
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 24, 2005, 07:18:00 AM
Post by: schwiz on September 25, 2005, 10:19:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on September 25, 2005, 12:27:00 PM
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 25, 2005, 07:31:00 PM
I don't seem to get the "dual boot" effect. Whether I power on with the Eject button or the Power button, same result. What have I done wrong?
Post by: kingroach on September 25, 2005, 08:10:00 PM
Post by: DaBiscuit on September 26, 2005, 07:19:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Sep 26 2005, 02:45 AM)
what happens when you power on with eject button?
The box powers up, shows the "Unleash-X" logo, then I get to my Unleash-X dash. What's confusing me is that both ways seem to result in me being only able to access the Shadow C. The only way I can access the real C is if I load "NDURE Toolset".
Post by: kingroach on September 26, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
(IMG:http://www.photohosting.info/uploads/28808fc7bb.jpg)
Post by: jcupp114 on September 28, 2005, 08:08:00 PM
jcupp114
Post by: jcupp114 on September 28, 2005, 08:08:00 PM
This post has been edited by jcupp114: Sep 29 2005, 03:09 AM
Post by: kingroach on September 28, 2005, 08:47:00 PM
Post by: [BR]TAD on October 01, 2005, 06:44:00 AM
Thanks
Post by: rgtaa on October 04, 2005, 06:22:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on October 04, 2005, 07:12:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=444280
it already runs on all xbox except 57++ , but xman is working on it..
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 15, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 20 2005, 03:58 AM)
NDURE INSTALLER 2.1
C drive folder before patching:
Audio
fonts
xboxdashdata.185ead00 (includes settings_adoc.xip)
xodash
xboxdash.xbe
C drive folder after patching:
Audio
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xodash
media
bios (includes closed-retail.xbe and Nkpatcher10)
xboxdash.xbe
msxboxdash.xbe ( if you choose retail setup)
C drive folder before patching:
Audio
fonts
xboxdashdata.185ead00 (includes settings_adoc.xip)
xodash
xboxdash.xbe
C drive folder after patching:
Audio
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xodash
media
bios (includes closed-retail.xbe and Nkpatcher10)
xboxdash.xbe
msxboxdash.xbe ( if you choose retail setup)
I have a couple of questions.
1. Now, are you saying there that after the C folder has been patched, you should no longer have a fonts folder?
2. Can I just delete my entire C drive and copy this over?
3. Do I need to copy over whats in E also for this to work or is it optional?
My first attempt at installing this didn't go so well. I got a black screen after the MS splash screen so this time I'm asking questions first before I install it again.
Post by: kingroach on October 15, 2005, 07:55:00 PM
now if you choose retail installation then you will have teh fonts folder.. if you choose only the basic option then you wont have fonts folder.. basic is similar to UXE where teh retail option allows you to play xbox live.
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 15, 2005, 08:39:00 PM
Maybe I should just trying the retail and basic install.
Post by: kingroach on October 15, 2005, 08:43:00 PM
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 15, 2005, 09:31:00 PM
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 16, 2005, 12:22:00 AM
But, I have another problem. I cant access the network settings for Xbox live in the MS dash. After i select it, it acts like its going to load, but just stays at a black screen. Do you know whats wrong?
Post by: krayzie on October 16, 2005, 12:52:00 AM
QUOTE(Kolk1604 @ Oct 16 2005, 08:33 AM)
Do you know whats wrong?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 16, 2005, 01:15:00 AM
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Post by: Kolk1604 on October 16, 2005, 01:15:00 AM
QUOTE(krayzie @ Oct 16 2005, 09:03 AM)
probably you not reading enough....that's normal. Both xbl and network functions do not work with Ndure. You can set your network in your dashboard (evox/ux) and they will be active on the dualboot.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on October 16, 2005, 03:36:00 AM
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are you sure you are reaching the internet through the dashs network settings? you are also aware that you cannot connect to live with the mod active right?
If you need to setup an acount you njeed to disable the mod first
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 16, 2005, 03:51:00 AM
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Post by: krayzie on October 16, 2005, 03:36:00 AM
If you need to setup an acount you njeed to disable the mod first
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 16, 2005, 03:51:00 AM
QUOTE(krayzie @ Oct 16 2005, 11:47 AM)
are you sure you are reaching the internet through the dashs network settings? you are also aware that you cannot connect to live with the mod active right?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Kolk1604 on October 17, 2005, 01:24:00 AM
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w00t, I was able to get connected to Xbox live. All I needed to do was change my network type from static to DHCP in the network settings and I got connected.
Thanks for your help Kingroach and Krayzie.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kics on October 23, 2005, 11:44:00 PM
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Post by: Kolk1604 on October 17, 2005, 01:24:00 AM
Thanks for your help Kingroach and Krayzie.
Post by: kics on October 23, 2005, 11:44:00 PM
QUOTE(The_Chinaman @ Oct 19 2005, 01:01 PM)
Thanks for this kingroach, nice installer and made my HD upgrade a doddle. As I was upgrading I decided to use NDURE rather than my current UXE.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kics on October 25, 2005, 09:03:00 AM
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ok now i have a prob..... where is the ms dash ??????????????
(dir tree???)
no files on C... so where is it ????
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on October 25, 2005, 10:13:00 AM
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The "C' you see it shadowc.. copy ms dashboard files there if you want to use msdash.. Otherwise there is msdash in "real C".. power your xbox with eject button for that..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: KRiSX on November 06, 2005, 02:27:00 AM
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ok... so if i run this... do a full retail install... then can i burn the C and E folders to a xboxhdm cd... and just copy them to the xbox hdd ??
will that work?
the xbox i'm doing it on has dash 5960 and kernel 4817
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 06, 2005, 08:35:00 AM
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yes you can do that..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: KRiSX on November 06, 2005, 04:59:00 PM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: KRiSX on November 07, 2005, 01:48:00 AM
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ummm... i keep getting an error while trying to copy the files over to the hdd... basically saying there isn't enough room on the xbox C drive...
what files can be deleted? i've removed the settings_adhoc.xip from the xboxdashdata.185ead00 dir... there is another settings_adhoc.xip in the root of C drive too... can that be deleted??
help please
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: KRiSX on November 07, 2005, 02:05:00 AM
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the xbox c drive is like this...
Audio
bios
fonts
media
shadowrc <-- incomplete
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xodash
Xbox Book.xtf
Xbox.xtf
evox.ini
evoxdash.xbe
settings_adhoc.xip
xboxdash.xbe
i have a feeling i could remove the .xtf's and the evox.ini and evoxdash (it was from a previous attempt at softmodding that failed) what else?
sorry for so many posts... it wouldn't let me edit
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: KRiSX on November 07, 2005, 03:09:00 AM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: LycoLoco on November 14, 2005, 07:01:00 PM
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My friend and I are trying to mod his box using Ndure and though we can get the E\UDATA\4541000d stuff onto the card for the 007 save, running it in game doesn't do anything. Any ideas?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 14, 2005, 08:55:00 PM
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007 needs special steps to load the gamesave.. look at the last page of "krazye ndure installer" topic for info.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: xsonicc on November 17, 2005, 10:12:00 PM
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this rocks bro!!! thanx 4 making this now i can use retail and modded on one same box!!!!
=)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 19, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
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I had this new verion of ndure installer sitting on my computer few days.. so decided to release it as a beta. Feedbacks are greatly welcomed.. also I do not suggest use of it to n00bs or if you dont have a method of recovery.. heres whats new on 3.0 beta:
Xboxhdm installer: Similar to Uxe installer for xboxhdm but this time files are not locked. You will choose your setup with Ndure installer and you will need to check the box saying " create xboxhdm installer" and it will create a xboxhdm installer. you will need to copy the "ndure" folder to xboxhdm folder and create the .iso. now after you boot to option "1". go to "xbrowser" and type: /CD/ndure/ndure and the installer will start.
Experimental open tray setup: Now you can toggle between xboxdash and xonlinedash.xbe easily. Also theres failsafe dash if xboxdash or xonlinedash.xbe doesnt run ( because of dashupdate or user error). Its done with a small .xbe launcher that "xman" made. The launcher looks into xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder. if it finds boo1.bin then it will boot xboxdash.xbe, if it finds boot2.bin then it will boot fuckms'd x2onlinedash.xbe (modified to look for xb0xdash.xbe). Now if there is no xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder then it will boot C:\uberdash.xbe which is uberdash.4920.17cdc100. or you can choose to boot Ndure toolset. The Open tray option is given both Ndure installer and Ndure toolset. You can also toggle between xboxdash/xonlinedash with ndure toolset.
Use of Nkpatcher 11 by xman. also RGB and progressive nkpatcher options.
how to get: the old ways..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on November 19, 2005, 12:01:00 PM
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very very nice....
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on November 19, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
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what I wonder though (I haven't been able to test this myself yet) is can't you now just rename the dashdata folder to something different and edit xboxdash.xbe to look for that? Or does the dashupdate.xbe still messes up the folder then?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 19, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
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yes you could do that and then dashupdate doesnt mess the folder.. but most people will never run those extra open tray options and I thought it better to have original xboxdash.xbe if MS ever tries to hash check the xboxdash connected to XBL..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on November 19, 2005, 12:53:00 PM
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Post by: kics on October 25, 2005, 09:03:00 AM
(dir tree???)
no files on C... so where is it ????
Post by: kingroach on October 25, 2005, 10:13:00 AM
Post by: KRiSX on November 06, 2005, 02:27:00 AM
will that work?
the xbox i'm doing it on has dash 5960 and kernel 4817
Post by: kingroach on November 06, 2005, 08:35:00 AM
Post by: KRiSX on November 06, 2005, 04:59:00 PM
Post by: KRiSX on November 07, 2005, 01:48:00 AM
what files can be deleted? i've removed the settings_adhoc.xip from the xboxdashdata.185ead00 dir... there is another settings_adhoc.xip in the root of C drive too... can that be deleted??
help please
Post by: KRiSX on November 07, 2005, 02:05:00 AM
Audio
bios
fonts
media
shadowrc <-- incomplete
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xodash
Xbox Book.xtf
Xbox.xtf
evox.ini
evoxdash.xbe
settings_adhoc.xip
xboxdash.xbe
i have a feeling i could remove the .xtf's and the evox.ini and evoxdash (it was from a previous attempt at softmodding that failed) what else?
sorry for so many posts... it wouldn't let me edit
Post by: KRiSX on November 07, 2005, 03:09:00 AM
Post by: LycoLoco on November 14, 2005, 07:01:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on November 14, 2005, 08:55:00 PM
Post by: xsonicc on November 17, 2005, 10:12:00 PM
=)
Post by: kingroach on November 19, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
Xboxhdm installer: Similar to Uxe installer for xboxhdm but this time files are not locked. You will choose your setup with Ndure installer and you will need to check the box saying " create xboxhdm installer" and it will create a xboxhdm installer. you will need to copy the "ndure" folder to xboxhdm folder and create the .iso. now after you boot to option "1". go to "xbrowser" and type: /CD/ndure/ndure and the installer will start.
Experimental open tray setup: Now you can toggle between xboxdash and xonlinedash.xbe easily. Also theres failsafe dash if xboxdash or xonlinedash.xbe doesnt run ( because of dashupdate or user error). Its done with a small .xbe launcher that "xman" made. The launcher looks into xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder. if it finds boo1.bin then it will boot xboxdash.xbe, if it finds boot2.bin then it will boot fuckms'd x2onlinedash.xbe (modified to look for xb0xdash.xbe). Now if there is no xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder then it will boot C:\uberdash.xbe which is uberdash.4920.17cdc100. or you can choose to boot Ndure toolset. The Open tray option is given both Ndure installer and Ndure toolset. You can also toggle between xboxdash/xonlinedash with ndure toolset.
Use of Nkpatcher 11 by xman. also RGB and progressive nkpatcher options.
how to get: the old ways..
Post by: krayzie on November 19, 2005, 12:01:00 PM
Post by: krayzie on November 19, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on November 19, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
Post by: krayzie on November 19, 2005, 12:53:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Nov 19 2005, 08:46 PM)
yes you could do that and then dashupdate doesnt mess the folder.. but most people will never run those extra open tray options and I thought it better to have original xboxdash.xbe if MS ever tries to hash check the xboxdash connected to XBL..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on November 19, 2005, 01:56:00 PM
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/me applauds ... your Ndure 3.0 Setup utility sounds tremendously powerful kingroach!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 19, 2005, 04:44:00 PM
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Post by: Ndure protagonist on November 19, 2005, 01:56:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on November 19, 2005, 04:44:00 PM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Nov 19 2005, 10:03 PM)
/me applauds ... your Ndure 3.0 Setup utility sounds tremendously powerful kingroach!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 20, 2005, 08:49:00 AM
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Just put the ndure created files via ftp. xboxhdm only format F drive upto 137GB. so if you use Nlatcher .06 then just format F drive with unleashx or evox and all the space will be there..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Lippuzz on November 20, 2005, 03:23:00 PM
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thnx, but can't find nlatcher anywere
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Lippuzz on November 20, 2005, 03:28:00 PM
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thnx, but can't find nlatcher anywere
whoooo, due some timeout errors i did't thought i actually posted
why can't i delete my own post?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on November 20, 2005, 06:46:00 PM
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kingroach, I've tested the "original" patcher method (re. 185ead00 w/ Basic & Retail & ShadowC) and the 3.0-beta produced a C folder that was too big.
This seemed to be because the x2onlinedash.xbe was included, even though I hadn't selected it, and the filler1.img was now 2 MB bigger. So I manually deleted that .xbe and reverted the .img back to 21 MB...
I've also tested the new "uber" patcher (re. UDDAE) and the 3.0-beta again produced a C folder that was too big. So I manually deleted the x2onlinedash.xbe and 1.5 MB filler2.img it had unnecessarily included...
The UDDAE fragged when I triggered it though, so I subsequently copied the /C/bios/bios.xbe to /E/bios.xbe as a fix for that...
Btw, I noticed you've implemented my "xonlinedash.xbe" discovery as well; thanks! However, the real one should be kept too (as 'x0nlinedash.xbe' maybe) and included in the de-/activate Ndure toggles...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 20, 2005, 08:45:00 PM
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I noticed that too.. actually adding all those extra fiiles and combinations make right size fillers difficult.. I will try to add some better "A.I " into the installer but I dont know how well that will go..
oops .. I messed up the path then.. but its no biggie.. I will just compile with correct path.. I assume teh ST.DB was generic.. I double checked the kernel specific ones..
@Lippuzz,
I meant nkpatcher.. you cannt see because its hidden in C drive.. anyway to get extra space.. just format F drive after you install softmod..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on November 20, 2005, 09:17:00 PM
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{? I noticed the new Ndure Toolset references a nonexistent 'uberdash.rar'... ?}
Btw, fwiw; I think the following "self-contained" configuration (re. not needing an exploitable game) would be the best default, checked options: Basic Files & Retail Files & Add ShadowC & Add UDDAE & Add Ndure Toolset...
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Post by: xman954 on November 20, 2005, 11:11:00 PM
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A extra level of protection could be added with a C:\rescuedash\default.xbe (nkpatcher11 will look for it as a last resort on the real "C")
you may want to change the clock check path in xboxapps.asm
FROM: clk_ph2: db '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\msxboxdash.xbe',0,0 ; without shadowC
TO: ??? uberdash.xbe with clock support files added in it's xboxdashdata.17cdc100 ???
and also the "generic" ST.DB boots only E:\default.xbe (will fix it so it can boot C:\whatever\whatever.xbe )
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 21, 2005, 08:21:00 AM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on November 21, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
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{? I installed the open tray XBL dash boot and it FRAG'd my 3944, but habibi signing x2onlinedash.xbe fixed that... ?}
kingroach, the C partition limit is 496 MB (on my Xbox for sure) which is what Ndure 2.1's patcher generates...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: deftonesmx17 on November 22, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
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Ok I am having trouble with the shadowc and virtual eeprom. I have tried patching my C files with both basic and retail setup and I have tried without patching my C files (tried both Ndure 2.1 and the 3.0). After I send the files to my xbox, I add a copy of my eeprom.bin to the shadowc folder, just like how I used to do it with UXE complete. Then I reboot the xbox. Great the shadowc works fine and I have an empty C drive. I then proceed to load my backup of the original dash on the c drive. All works fine and I reboot. This next time I go to programs (I have tried with XBMC, UnleashX, Evox, and Avalaunch) and load my MS dashboard. Everything loads fine, but the changes I make never are apparent upon next boot. This method worked fine with UXE and the shadowc+virtual eeprom, what am I doing wrong?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 22, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
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@deftonesmx17,
it shoudl work with ndure 2.1.. but in ndure 3.0 beta the eepeom path is C:\eeprom\eeprom.bin ( my fault, forgot to change the path to C:\shadowc\).. anyway are you trying to change settings with open tray?.. then it might be problem..copy MS dashfiles to shadowc and change settings.. then they will be written to virtual eeprom, with open tray, you are changing settings in real eeprom.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: deftonesmx17 on November 22, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
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Thanks for the info
No, I was copying the xboxdash files to the shadowc, thats why I was interested in the virtual eeprom. I dont like the dual boot. I never use live and never will so single boot for me.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: BlackFoxx on November 22, 2005, 06:30:00 PM
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I'm not sure HOW to upload these files. do I NEED a modded xbox to do it? I'm just straight up confused.
Win98 comp
Xbox 2003 made last update: halo 2. Not modded what so ever.
network: comp, father's comp, xbox.
What programs do I need? and what kind of person does I need to speak to?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 24, 2005, 07:24:00 PM
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its in /XBOX/exploits/_Packages/Kingroachs Installer folder
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 26, 2005, 09:18:00 PM
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I uploaded a new version.. changes:
* filler files fix.. creates 496MB ( with any combination of options selected)
* xmans new nkpatcher 11 U2
* xmans new st.db, now it will boot C:\bios\bios.xbe
* changed clock check path to C:\xb0xdash.xbe
* rescue dash (evox) to C:\shadowc\resc\ folder
* -habibi signed x2onlinedash.xbe
* I left uberdash.rar file before.. fixed..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: [BR]TAD on November 29, 2005, 12:40:00 PM
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Hi
I tried to softmod my Xbox before 2 days, using Ndure 2.1 with XboxHDM and Hotswap.
But it didnt worked.
So I need some help and tips to do it right, because I will try again.
Here some details of my PC:
- Boot set to Boot from CD
- Primary Master set to PC's HD
- Primary Slave set to PC's DVD Recorder
- 1 free IDE Cable (it was for my DVD ROM, but my DVD-ROM has some problems so I removed it)
Here some steps I took to softmod my Xbox:
1. Opened Xbox's Case.
2. Opened PC's Case.
3. Turn on the PC.
4. Insert my Ndure 2.1 with XboxHDM CD in my DVD Recorder.
5. Remove XBox HD outside xbox.
6. Pluged the Xbox S-Video cable in TV.
7. Turn on the TV.
8. Turn on the XBox and restart my PC together.
9. I pressed Pause/Break key of the keyboard.
10. When I saw the big X with the word MS in the botton, I removed the Xbox's HD IDE Cable and hotswaped with my PC's HD IDE Cable.
11. Pressed Enter to continue.
12. Ndure 2.1 with XboxHDM options appeared.
13. I choised option 3.
14. It said the eepron is not found in the Ndure 2.1 with XboxHDM CD, and got error 7 in the TV.
15. Tried to boot the PC and XBox together again, and my Ndure 2.1 with XboxHDM CD just said that eepron not found in my softmod cd and in TV just started to show error 21.
About softmod
What I should do ???
How I get my eepron from Xbox's HD ???
About the PC IDE Cables
When I hotswap, I should plug the free IDE Cable of my PC or the PC's HD IDE Cable ???
About Xbox
I should unplug the IDE cable of Xbox DVD-ROM before start the softmod or not ???
Thanks
Topic: http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=464217
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 29, 2005, 02:48:00 PM
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There is no eprom until you softmod.. you need to go to option 1, type xbrowser and then type /CD/ndure/ndure to launch the script.. See Dadyj's hotswapping f.a.q for how to hotswap..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 04, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
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Btw, I noticed you've implemented my "xonlinedash.xbe" discovery as well; thanks! However, the real one should be kept too (as 'x0nlinedash.xbe' maybe) and included in the de-/activate Ndure toggles...
{: kingroach, hopefully the potential solution (method) I recently emailed will be of assistance for this. :}
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 04, 2005, 05:41:00 PM
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sorry NP I didnt reply.. I actually got the mail in morning but I went outside.. I uploaded the new build with real xonlinedash.xbe and activate/inactivate toggle you provided.. I am in the process of uploading new build.. should be done within few mins.. please check the size of C.. No matter what I do I can make a 496 MB C but in properties it says 497 available space in folder..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 04, 2005, 09:02:00 PM
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No worries kingroach, RL matters most!
Thanks for the update; I've tested its patcher a couple of ways ... the real .xbe was retained each time, the install's "C" folder was 496 MB (via win2k's properties), it ftp'd over, booted, Live tabbed and UDDAE'd correctly with Ndure active and de-activated ... great work dude.
{: I've emailed you again though ... just some "minor stuff". :}
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: [BR]TAD on December 05, 2005, 01:49:00 PM
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Hi
I tried before 2 days again, to softmod, but its not working.
Xbrowser didnt appeared.
Something wrong when I try to hotswap.
I hotswap with lees than 5 minutes (with my friends' help). And may be we did less than 3 minutes.
Also I readed all the faqs and tips and tutorias for hotswap.
I cant search for the Dadyj's Faq that kingroach told me, because forum's search is not working.
Anyone can help me with, what I should do ???
Thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 05, 2005, 07:29:00 PM
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@HardcoreHalo,
shadowc is enabled so when you ftp into C , you should see a blank C drive.. and for F drive.. format F drive with unleashx and it will appear..
@
TAD,
the best way to hoyswap ( I do this way) is to copy any music using your xboxdash.. then go to music, play the track for 10-20 secs and pause the music.. now you have unlimited time to swap the cable and hotswap.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 06, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
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{@ HardcoreHalo; I see you have at least 3 threads (plus this one) about your issue so far! RL delayed me getting back to you sooner, but I have followed-up: http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3095323 @}
kingroach; thanks for fixing the 3.0 config file and when you get a chance, consider updating three of the paragraphs in the Readme.pdf with something like these instead (not quite as emailed):
...in the patcher section...
For this, it is recommended that you have latest MS dash (5960.01 V. 185EAD00). Have all of the dash files in a folder named "C". Next, run the installer. As 'Destination Folder', select the parent folder that has your dash files "C" folder in it (don't select "C" folder). The installer will add/rename/delete necessary files and create a complete C drive replacement.
...in the uploading section...
First make sure that you do not have a 4 MB file called "settings_adoc.xip" in xboxdashdata.185EAD00 in "C" folder or C drive. If there is the 4 MB file, then delete it (but don't delete it if it's smaller).
...in the UDDAE section...
HOW TO RUN: In xboxdash go to Music>blank soundtrack>Copy>Select>Copy>New Soundtrack>
<<Eggs|3ox>> (with two '<' Symbols, capital 'E', beta Accent '|3' and two '>' Symbols)
>Done (UberDash starts)>Music>blank soundtrack>Copy>Copy>New Soundtrack>Done
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 06, 2005, 11:07:00 AM
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I am planning to redo the readme with some pictures.. I will defenately add the fixes on that..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 06, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
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I am planning to redo the readme with some pictures.. I will defenately add the fixes on that..
Pictures too ... awesome!
{+ Maybe mention that ALL of the resultant "C" folder AND "E" folder contents need to be ftp'd over... +}
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: [BR]TAD on December 08, 2005, 05:45:00 PM
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I know this doesn't go here but since he asked,
@
TAD,
I have found that the easiest way for me to hotswap is to induce an error. With the xbox off, unplug the dvd ide cable. Then power on the xbox. You get error 11 or 12 I don't remember. At this time the hdd is unlocked.
Hi
I did it got the error 12, but the problem is about hotswap time.
I did hotswap less than 5 minutes, but its such I didnt did it in time.
Thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: [BR]TAD on December 09, 2005, 04:26:00 AM
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@HardcoreHalo,
shadowc is enabled so when you ftp into C , you should see a blank C drive.. and for F drive.. format F drive with unleashx and it will appear..
@
TAD,
the best way to hoyswap ( I do this way) is to copy any music using your xboxdash.. then go to music, play the track for 10-20 secs and pause the music.. now you have unlimited time to swap the cable and hotswap.
Hi
So I dont need to remove the IDE Cable from Xbox DVD ???
Thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: 2121oyoy on December 09, 2005, 11:32:00 AM
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@
TAD,
Hi
So I dont need to remove the IDE Cable from Xbox DVD ???
Thanks
The only readon I said to remove the ide cable from the dvd was to induce the error. Once you have the error the drive is unlocked. There is no 5 min waiting this way. If you unlock it another way then you do not have to remove the ide from the dvd. When you hotswap you will not be removing the power from the hdd. Also you may have to adjust your pc bios. There are many tuts on hotswapping. Read them to make sure you are doing it correctly.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: [BR]TAD on December 09, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
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@
TAD,
Hi
So I dont need to remove the IDE Cable from Xbox DVD ???
Thanks
The only readon I said to remove the ide cable from the dvd was to induce the error. Once you have the error the drive is unlocked. There is no 5 min waiting this way. If you unlock it another way then you do not have to remove the ide from the dvd. When you hotswap you will not be removing the power from the hdd. Also you may have to adjust your pc bios. There are many tuts on hotswapping. Read them to make sure you are doing it correctly.
Hi
I am just asking kingroach, by the way he do, I need to remove also the xbox dvd IDE cable ???
I did what you said now, but it didnt worked.
Also I readed alot of hotswap tutorials and its still the same.
Thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 09, 2005, 09:51:00 PM
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no you dont need to remove dvd IDE cable ..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 10, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
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i installed Ndure for retail mode.. everything works great i get unleashX with power button and M$ Dash with eject button just fine... the only problem is that when i try registering my xbox live account i get a black window, everything from Xlive like network configuration on settings sends me to black screen.
also when im on unleash x my c drive looks empty.. is there a way i can get acces to my c drive and boot my xbox with this settings eject m& and power unleash???
also i deleted filler.img because it didnt let me boot m$ dash
Deleting that file "to fit it all" means your C's setup wasn't quite right (and now if a retail disc's dashupdate.xbe runs you may need to re-do it all).
Also, it's best to register for Live before installing almost all softmods. You can still do it with Ndure installed though, such by de-activating with the Ndure Toolset then setting up Live, but you'd subsequently need a way to re-activate Ndure from the MS dash (UDDAE is included with Ndure 3.0 for that purpose) or to reinstall it.
Regarding the Ndure Toolset, including a way to use your (initially empty) virtual C, see the green link in my sig...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Jangaboo on December 10, 2005, 01:58:00 PM
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sorry but can't seem to find where Ndure 3.0 by Kingroach is located on Xbins FTP
Only 2.1 is showing up in /XBOX/exploits/_Packages/Kingroachs Installer/
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 10, 2005, 04:13:00 PM
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{: xsonicc => Ndure 3.0 beta is a better choice now (see kingroach's sig) <= Jangaboo :}
I recommend installing it like this:
create a folder named Ndure in C:\ (on the PC)
create a folder named C in C:\Ndure
copy your MS dash backup into C:\Ndure\C
run Ndure-3.0.exe
[Next]
'Add UDDAE' and 'Add Ndure Toolset' (in addition to the 3 default options)
C:\Ndure (it's *not* the C folder here!)
[Next]
[Finish]
(in window's properties, verify that C:\Ndure\C is 496 MB and C:\Ndure\E is 13.5 MB)
(if you have existing MS dash soundtracks and want to keep them,
then rename your /E/TDATA/fffe000/music/ST.DB so it remains available)
transfer C:\Ndure\E\TDATA\fffe000\music\ST.DB into /E/TDATA/fffe000/music/
transfer C:\Ndure\E\ndts (folder&contents) into /E/ (or /E/apps/ if you want it auto-listed in the softmod)
transfer C:\Ndure\E\dash (folder&contents) into /E/
delete all of the Xbox's (real)C contents
transfer all of C:\Ndure\C (8 folders&contents and 2 files) into /C/
re-start the Xbox; its (virtual)C is empty initially, so it's a good idea to ftp your MS dash backup into there now too...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 11, 2005, 09:43:00 AM
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copy a ms dashboard files to shadowc.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 13, 2005, 02:03:00 AM
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{; Kingroach: for UDDAE the 12 MB filler1.img in flr.rar is too big; 9.25 MB (9,699,328 bytes) is perfect... ;}
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: xman954 on December 13, 2005, 11:19:00 PM
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http://mysite.verizo...05/dn/index.php
read it good, and think
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 15, 2005, 08:53:00 AM
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I uploaded a new build.. changes:
* Extra UDDAE option, you can choose to boot either NKpatcher or x2onlinedash.xbe by deafult.
* Changes Xbox.xtf to xbox.xtf for xboxhdm installation ( thnx for the hint NP). Other than ordering issue, xboxhdm also has issue with any Uppercase filde.. there is switch that will create a .iso with all lowercase files ( forgot the switch)..
* New readme..
again I will recommend new users to use Ndure installer 2.1 which is tested and you can get from xbins.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 15, 2005, 11:45:00 AM
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{= ticaal; it's actually under #3. Patching C drive files (but that's black not red) and means ALL of the MS dashboard's folders and files. =}
kingroach; well done ... yet another 1st for your uber softmod installer! (Maybe change the installer's description text for the new feature, to something like "Load xonlinedash console at UDDAE instead of Nkpatcher".)
Also, consider adding the generic font and generic ST.DB to the end of the kernel specific lists too ... then if they're all selected, which is easily done, I presume the last copied will be the generic (plus folks that think they have to select one will have that choice too)...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 15, 2005, 06:36:00 PM
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you should have about 500MB of space in any blank C drive.. anyway the shadowc is not important is your xbox will work without it.. but it will protect your C drive.. and you can only place shadowc in C:\shadowc\ folder..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ticaal on December 15, 2005, 07:54:00 PM
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you should have about 500MB of space in any blank C drive
Thats odd. It says 299MB. Anyone ever see this before? Sorry for crowding this thread....maybe I should start another topic.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 15, 2005, 09:08:00 PM
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Kicks, you can just copy the files to empty shadowc and access xbox dashboard from there.. otherwise you can also run PBL to disable shadowc and see real C. There is a Ndure toolset included with the install which has PBL.
Ticall, I think you are seeing shadowc which is 299MB..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Jangaboo on December 15, 2005, 10:48:00 PM
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When you upload new builds Kingroach how do we know they are the newest builds?
I haven't checked Xbins yet but the "other" links, are those new?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Jangaboo on December 16, 2005, 12:53:00 AM
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Nevermind! They show the date inside of Winrar of when they were packaged
Thanks again
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kics on December 16, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
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now this is my drive C
dirs
AUDIO
BIO
FONTS
MEDIA
SHADOWC
XBOXDASHDATA.185EAD00
XODASH
files
msxboxdas.xbe 1.87 mb
xbox book.xtf
xbox.xtf
xboxdas.xbe
........
i don't want to erase anything, i still have acces to my xbox.. (gonna backup all my gamesaves )... so what can i do to ... make it work... it says error 21.. i'm going to experiment installing again the softmod to see what happens...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kics on December 16, 2005, 03:51:00 PM
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well... i found a refresh C on the toolkit so... i selected it and made it work again...
i'm not going to mess around again w/the contents hehe...
latersss
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: girlss on December 17, 2005, 04:40:00 AM
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cool,thank you
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ticaal on December 17, 2005, 11:03:00 PM
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Ok...everything was done correctly this time and it is working great! However, I do have one more question. This might be something simple that I am overlooking. I cannot figure out how to add emulators under my applications menu. Also, what is the password for the "Format Menu"?
Thanks Again!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 19, 2005, 09:14:00 AM
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{; Kingroach: for UDDAE the 12 MB filler1.img in flr.rar is too big; 9.25 MB (9,699,328 bytes) is perfect... ;}
Thanks for fixing that (@Dec.15) kingroach; it can now be used by 2.1 users (and others) to install UDDAE:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3123957
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 19, 2005, 10:55:00 AM
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I also added generic fonts and st.db at the end of kernel specific fonts menu..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: DaddyJ on December 21, 2005, 06:05:00 AM
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What is UDDAE?
I beleive it was a spin-off of the Uber Double Dash EasterEgg Exploit.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 21, 2005, 08:09:00 AM
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yes you can use all the features of Ndure toolset..
UDDAE ( uber double dash audio exploit) is a audio exploit (duh.. ).. what audio exploit does is to launch a public key ( -habibi) signed .xbe to boot from unmodded retail ms dash..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: DaddyJ on December 21, 2005, 09:47:00 AM
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UDDAE ( uber double dash audio exploit) is a audio exploit (duh.. )..
I was close.... lol
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on December 21, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
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basically it's a EEE/double dash/audio hack combo
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: LafferUSA on December 21, 2005, 02:06:00 PM
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Snap, my Top Spin/NCAA 2005 mulitgame disk doesn't work.
The fonts.du problem is still there.
Is this problem fixed yet?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ArjanDotOrg on December 22, 2005, 06:50:00 AM
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Tonight I have to build a 250GB in an xbox.
Can I just use Ndure .6? Or do I have to use Ndure .67?
And does XboxHDM support G-drives?
Or can I just use XboxHDM to prepare the disk with a really big F:-drive?
Thanks,
Arjan
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: DaddyJ on December 22, 2005, 07:32:00 AM
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Tonight I have to build a 250GB in an xbox.
Can I just use Ndure .6? Or do I have to use Ndure .67?
And does XboxHDM support G-drives?
Or can I just use XboxHDM to prepare the disk with a really big F:-drive?
Thanks,
Arjan
06 will work fine on a 250 drive. xboxhdm can prepare the drive, and will format the F
xboxhdm does not format the G ever, unless you know your linux commands
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 22, 2005, 08:39:00 AM
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I first used Textbook's method to softmod my xbox, later I added a 200gb HD. Then used xboxHD to build the HD as orignal one (I can use it to boot MS dash). So I moded the 200gb HD again using Textbook's method. Then I wanted to update to Unleash using Ndure 2.1, but I found I can't write to C: while doing anything on other drives. Later I used xboxHD to "Build a new xbox HD from scrath", but I still couldn't copy any files into C:. So now I'm running Unleash with files on E:, I can't boot to MS dash. Any suggestions? Do I need to wipe fatx table before building a new HD? Btw, Ndure is great, much more function then Evox.
so now you have ndure installed, you can boot to unleashx just cannt boot to MS dash right?..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 22, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
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you cannt go to xbox live network settings with Ndure.. Thats why its recommended to setup the network first and install ndure ( or any other exploit).. The empty C you C is shadowc.. its for to protect your actual C drive but when Ndure toolset boots, it disables shadowc..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 22, 2005, 10:52:00 AM
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Snap, my Top Spin/NCAA 2005 mulitgame disk doesn't work.
The fonts.du problem is still there.
Is this problem fixed yet?
The Fonts folder and its XTF's remain in place when fonts.du is created (and are still found by all XBE's that need them).
What exactly happens when that disc is coldbooted, with both the generic and the kernel specific font?
(The font can be toggled via the Ndure Toolset and makes a difference if xboxdash.xbe gets re-invoked, such as occurs after acknowledging a dashupdate.xbe failure message...)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 22, 2005, 12:45:00 PM
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Thats something weired.. when you see empty C ( means shadowc enabled).. go to unleashx format option and format "C' and then try writing files to shadowc again..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: tonylu on December 23, 2005, 03:32:00 PM
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I tried to format the empty C, but I couldn't. Btw, the shadowc folder should be in C:, right? I also found I somehow didn't put the settings_adoc.xip file into "xboxdashdata.185ead00", that's why I can't see network settings i guess. I tried to just copy my backup settings_adoc.xip to C:, the copied file only shows 0kb.
I also tried to use xbrowser in xboxhdm to copy "settings_adoc.xip" to my xbox c, but not enough space on C (only 335mb), which is wired, since ndure files are about 497MB, how can I copy all the files into xbox C?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: perplx on December 24, 2005, 06:12:00 PM
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Hi kingroach, now I can boot to MS from Eject button and access to my C: . But when I look network settings, it boots to ndure automatically. When I cold-boot to ndure, C: is empty if I use FTP browser and I can't write it. But if I launch ndure toolset, I can access my C: again like booting to MS dash. I have no idea about it.
I have had this problem too, I think its a problem with xboxhdm. I was able to fix it by running ndure toolset to see the real C. Then I deleted all files on C and FTP'd ndure over. Then I was able to write to virtual C.
So start fresh over ftp.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: tonylu on December 27, 2005, 05:04:00 PM
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I have had this problem too, I think its a problem with xboxhdm. I was able to fix it by running ndure toolset to see the real C. Then I deleted all files on C and FTP'd ndure over. Then I was able to write to virtual C.
So start fresh over ftp.
I've already done that several times, but each time my xbox refused to boot. Thanks anyway.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Takenover83 on December 28, 2005, 08:57:00 PM
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After that I uploaded everything and took some caution with the 2 files that needed to uploaded individually.
Everything appears to run ok(unleashx) but shadowc was empty. Hmm so I thought I would test something before populating shadowc with a clean dash. So I tried to boot into retail mode(booted with eject) and to my surprise, I got the retail dash? How, isnt this called from shadowc which was currently empty. I hope it wasnt loading the dash with all the exploited files....Any who I will stay away from Xbox Live till I find out. I loaded up Unleashx and populated the shadowc with a clean retail dash. Is this all normal? Should I be worried?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 28, 2005, 09:46:00 PM
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no.. yourr setup is good.. shadowc runs in modded state but in real C:\ there is MS dash files, when you start with eject button, it runs in unmodded state and loads MS dash... and they run separate of any exploit so that you can connect to xbox live..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 28, 2005, 10:05:00 PM
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virtual C was created when some DVD movie updated xbox and messed up peoples softmods and few multigame dvd's refused to boot.. That was before Ndure was discovered.. so now there is not any groundbraking use of shadowc.. now its used for filling up C drive ( so updates cannt occur) and save C drive incase anything happens.. anyway the modded files are still in C rdive so technically MS could scan the C drive but the dash itself doesnt use any modded files and no one was ever banned from XBL with softmods..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 29, 2005, 08:24:00 PM
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I uploaded a new build of Ndure installer 3.0.. Now xonlinedash.xbe chooser is intigrated into Nkpatcher.. normally it will boot xboxdash.. if booting of xonlinedash.xbe is needed for account management.. just put boot1.bin in xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder and nkpatcher will boot xonlinedash.xbe..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 01, 2006, 08:19:00 PM
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1. There is no freeze.. Its all in Nkpatcher.. I modified Nkpatcher with soe codes from xman495.. When tray boot is enabled, Nkpatcher does some checks. At this stage, Nkpatcher will look for a specific file "boot1.bin" in xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder.. The path is hard coded into nkpatcher ( you can hex edit and change the path).. the check goes like this:
if C:\xboxdashdata.185ead00\boot1.bin file is present then boot x2onlinedash.xbe with -habibi key
else, boot C:\xodash.xbe with ms key patch back.
however this wasnt my initial plan.. if you looked at some previous test build.. the check was done in a seperate .xbe but intigrating that check code in nkpatcher is much simple and easier to use.
2. xonlinedash.xbe is from 5960 dash.. nomally xodash font check goes like this:
C:\xodash\
C:\fonts
C:\
I just changed the first font check value from C:\xodash\ to C:\fonts\ ( check the Fuckms thread for more info).. also xonlinedash.xbe checks for retail dash in C:\xboxdash.xbe , I changed the value to C:\xb0xdash\.. All of these can be done with hex editing..Then I useed FuckMS patch so that it would boot from -habibi key.. This modified xonlinedash.xbe is renmed as x2onlinedash.xbe and xonlinedash.xbe in C:\xodash\ folder is replaced with 5960 xboxdash.xbe . This way when you are in retail dash, if you try to go to xbox live menu , xbox wont hang ( Because real xonlinedash.xbe checks for 5960 dash in C:\xboxdash.xbe while xboxdash.xbe doesnt so it would just relaunch the MS dash.
hope this answers your question.. or feel free to ask more and give some suggestion after checking it out..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on January 01, 2006, 11:29:00 PM
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However, I noticed you've changed the flr.rar to be fludd.rar (@Dec.29) and it doesn't contain 9.25 MB again! It's contents are less now and consequently leave too much free space in C (re. the linked post's usage) ... have you changed it to be like that for a different purpose?
{? Re. boot1.bin ... maybe a more meaningfully named file in E would be better (like nkp11 uses for switching off the virtual C and EEPROM) so it can be toggled without needing to access the real C ?}
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 02, 2006, 06:59:00 PM
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sorry for late reply.. if you do the UDDAE installation with "ndts" th eresult is 496 MB C.. but over Ndure 2.1 installation, the UDDAE will result in 491MB.. But if I use 9.6MB filler then Ndure 3.0 installation becomes too large.. its some uneasy dilemma..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on January 02, 2006, 11:31:00 PM
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Thx alot kingroach, I kinda did think about fixing the xonlindash.xbe to try to change the name of \xodash\Xbox.xtf to something else mb, but never really tried. Well here's some stuff i've been thinkin about but they might not work at all.
* means some possibilities but failed.
*1.- try to exploit the files inside \media\ folder used by the ndure boot, i actually got it to error 21, that kinda tells me it could be possible in a certain way, and that way we don't depend on fonts, but rather other files that loads into the dash.
*2.- fuckMS msdash.xbe when booting retail, but i can't load xonlinedash.xbe retail nor patched.
3.- my last attemp i'm gonna go try.
use update.xbe from UXE to load fonts bert-something.xtf and ernie.xtf to load the softmod, while keeping the other msdash.xbe and xonlinedash.xbe retail and unmodded, and this could be a possible way to load the fonts correctly and have full use of the ms dashboard.
xboxdash.xbe (update from nfl)>fonts\ernie.xtf/bert-kernel or ge.xtf>dual boot etc.
if open tray>msdash.xbe (retail xboxdash.xbe 5960)>fonts\Xbox.xtf/Xbox Book.xtf=fully retail and compatible with the hash checks on the xonlinedash.xbe and vice versa.
*crosses fingers*
1: very unlikely. it's still a font exploit. other files have been checked..
2: yes that's true
3: when keeping hacked fonts in C:\fonts how do you wanna load msdash? also xonlinedash.xbe needs a retail 5960 C:\xboxdash.xbe (checksum)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on January 03, 2006, 02:35:00 AM
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the file itself. that's why you have to edit the xboxdash.xbe path in xonlinedash.xbe (and the fonts path) in order to launch it.
And it would be nice if we found another exploit. you can look at what files are called by an xbe using an app called apilogger made by pedrospad. I wouldn't set my hopes on it though. you can probablt crash the xbox in many ways but only few are vulnerable.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 03, 2006, 01:45:00 PM
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If I remember correctly, you can also load certain named .xmv files with ndure ( xonlinedash.xbe).. The info is somewhere in main ndure thread..
3. you can never launch xonlinedash.xbe with any combination.. other than hash xonlinedash.xbe also checks the signature version of C:\xboxdash.xbe and both UXE and Ndure exploit has signature version 17cdc100 while xonlinedash.xbe (5960) has signature version 185ead00.. now you could possibly insert XONLINE library from ndure.xbe to xonlinedash.xbe (5960) but I havnt been able to do so.. and I dont knwo any tool that can extract/insert library into an .xbe.. I think you can do it with hexedit ( I have seen someone did in developer forum).. still I dont know how much you can gain from it..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 04, 2006, 04:58:00 PM
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The two files seems to be japanese character support for xbox.. The two files are XIME file after some research it seems to be xbxo version of Pocket IME ( Input method editor).. from MSDN:
this three links might be helpful:
http://msdn.MS.com/l..._Pocket_IME.asp
http://msdn.MS.com/l..._windows_ce.asp
replace MS with MS..
http://msdn.MS.com/l..._code_files.asp
apparantly the source code for pocket ime comes with windows CE.. now I dont have any special expertise on windows ce ( other than few failed attempt to make a customize windows ce for my computer )..
so if pocket ime have any flaw in it, which it should considering its a MS product you could certainly exploit these two files..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 24, 2006, 06:41:00 AM
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Its for live purposes.. Using retail boot to ms dash you can go to live.. its true that you can see exploit files but MS has yet to scan users C drive ban them for it. NOw if you dont care about Xbox live etc. and only use retail mode for dvd player then you can copy MS dash files to shadowc and compile Nkpatcher to boot xboxdash from shadowc.. IN that case you can also patch it with progressive/region free without any problems..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: xXSanjuroXx on January 24, 2006, 09:16:00 AM
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Any plans for putting this into a 007 / MA / SC game save auto installer?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 24, 2006, 10:46:00 AM
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Any plans for putting this into a 007 / MA / SC game save auto installer?
Not now.. there is a gamesave like scriot called "ndure toolset" in the installer but it runs as a application.. But for gamesave side Krazie is doing Ndure installer 1.1 gamesave..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: tyraen on January 24, 2006, 02:25:00 PM
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Yup, okay, after checking the xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder, it was empty! I had deleted it to upload the one with the installer, but that one is created empty...? Is that what's supposed to happen?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 24, 2006, 03:33:00 PM
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It was created to patch C drive files.. but I guess there was no C drive files there wehn you used the installer.. but its no problem.. Just copy xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder with files in it to C drive.. ( minus settings_adoc.xip file)..
@tetsuo55,
when I get time I will try to compile a nkpatcher for you to run ms dash from shadow after eject.. you could do it yourself with Nkpatcher_11_U2.. but make sure you have recovery method if you try..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 25, 2006, 05:59:00 PM
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Where should I be looking?!!?!
screw it. I found it on krayzies blog
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 26, 2006, 05:46:00 AM
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so it goes to ms dash clock setting only after unplugging or it also goes to clock setup everytime you reboot.. and does deleting retail files from shadowc fix the problem? shadowc shouldnt cause that since it completely unrelated.. Or it could be capacitor issue since I only get that screen if I unplug for more than three hours..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on January 26, 2006, 12:05:00 PM
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I noticed something similar with some beta tester results. Seems like the clock code in nkp is buggy with (unleashx) reboots sometimes.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 12:20:00 PM
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First things first...
Softmod* Xbox 1.6 (120GB drive)
Windows XP Pro SP2
Visual Studio .NET 2003
XDK 5933
*I originally started out with a simple gamesave exploit over a year ago. Somewhere around six months ago I "fixed" it with another mod, hacked it up more a few weeks ago with the XDK and now I can't remember what mods I used when, but lets just say my /C/ is full of a lot of crap to the point I'm amazed it still works. (I have a backup of the original M$Dash on my PC, evox as current dash)
As for the meaning of the post... Has anyone tested the ability to use the XDK along side this? I have no use for the ShadowC as I'll end up filling that drive with other stuff that I use but I want to know that if I format, that I can continue to do my programming.
(Actually came up with a few more questions) Since I have the M$Dash backup (5960) should I just put those just those files only into the (PC) /C/ and use generic fonts? Or should I add something else to the (PC) /C/?
I'm going to follow the directions that were in post #437 in this thread, anything else I should do along with that for the XDK and other issues?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 01:15:00 PM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 01:50:00 PM
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::Feels Stupid Now::
Turns out I uploaded /E/dash to /E/Apps/dash
By the way, thanks to all the people involved in making this, it kicks ass... I'll let you guys know if I get the XDK working with it... *I'm not going to bother trying until this weekend.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 26, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
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I noticed something similar with some beta tester results. Seems like the clock code in nkp is buggy with (unleashx) reboots sometimes.
hmm .. I never got this thing and I am using Nkpatcher_11 for a while now.. But why would copying Ms dash to shadowc will trigger this an ddeleting ms dash solve this?..
@Archigos,
I think there was a tutorial on how to use xdk with softmod somewhere in this forum.. but you should use the same method that you used before.. good luck..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 03:54:00 PM
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I got around the ShadowC thing so I can dump my real C and load the version that doesn't use Shadow... I also made the changes needed to get the XDK running again (just haven't uploaded XDK yet)...
WooHoo... KingRoach, Krayzie, eh, NP, etc... you guys f/ing rule.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
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Interesting questions...
> If I put my old dash inside the /E/dash would the mod still work correctly and boot that, or is there something that makes it "want" UnleashX?
> Not sure if this was intended, but when I run Ndure and tell it to make a setup without ShadowC I still have a ShadowC directory with filler2.img in it. Do I have to transfer this with the rest of the stuff?
> I remember reading that if the generic fonts/st.db work then there's no real reason to pick the kernel specific... so if I just ignore those in the installer I assume it will use the generic? (I have kernel 5838 on a v1.6)
If anyone wants I can:
a. host/mirror their projects (With FTP access) {I also provide 100% free blog hosting and other services}
b. write up a "Softmod friendly" guide on getting the XDK to work with Ndure 3.0
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 26, 2006, 07:04:00 PM
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1. you can put anything inside E:\dash\.. just make sure the .xbe is named default.xbe
2. Anything inside "shadowc" is optional
3. If you dont select any kernel than it will use generic.. however to work generic ST.DB correctly, you must have 5960 dash.
I would appriciate a XDK guide.. although I never used xdk inside xbox but I assume its some hassle..so if anyone else wants to use xdk they would a working guide..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 26, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
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you should've setup xbl account before softmodding.. installing a new dash from dvd could mess up the softmod.. There is a unleashx script called "ndure toolset" with the installer.. you can just place it in E drive and launch that to disable shadowc and see real C..
if you have the latest dash (5960, you can check it in xboxdash) for XBL account management etc. just place a file called boot1.bin in E:\ drive. Shutdown, start xbox with eject button, you xbox should boot into account management..
for boot1.bin, you can rename any file into boo1.bin and place it in the E:\ root..
btw. I noticed from your previous post that you have a upgraded hard drive.. if you had XBL with normal harddrive in that xbox then you cannt re-register for xbox live.. since XBL logs your HD key and will probably ban you if you go with a different HDD.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 26, 2006, 08:58:00 PM
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after you finish subcription, you need to delete boot1.bin.. Then it will boot MS dash like normal..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on January 26, 2006, 10:42:00 PM
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hmm .. I never got this thing and I am using Nkpatcher_11 for a while now.. But why would copying Ms dash to shadowc will trigger this an ddeleting ms dash solve this?..
the code launches the msdash on the virtual C. If that isn't there it just continues to boot the dash
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 11:28:00 PM
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@King, not sure how different it is/was for mod chips, but on a Softmod it's as simple as FTP'ing some directories and files (once your mod is working right).
I can write up a thing for XDK/Ndure on a softmod this weekend.
By the way, I did get around to doing the XDK instead of waiting and it works perfect... (well, except a small /F/ issue I'm having that I can't figure out.
Back to playing games, writing software and attempting to sleep...
Later
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 27, 2006, 08:17:00 AM
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the code launches the msdash on the virtual C. If that isn't there it just continues to boot the dash
That it does but only if xbox's date is lass than september 2005.. and tray open it will boot C:\xb0xdash.xbe.. In your beta test what kernel the problem'd xbox's had?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: krayzie on January 27, 2006, 08:34:00 AM
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I dunno it worked fine on my 1.6. I will ask the testers with the problems for their kernels
edit: turns out both were 5838 kernels.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 27, 2006, 12:40:00 PM
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does option "1" work?.. both option are besically the same just option "1" copies the files one by one manually.. try that.. and running from xbrowser or running from command line will give you the same result..
@krayzie.. do they have eeprom.bin in virtual eeprom directory?.. I suspect nkpatcher read date from virtual eeprom and tries to fix the clock.. I cannt test this since this doesnt happend to me.. Ialso modded few 5838 NTSC colsoles and none gave me any problem..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 27, 2006, 05:06:00 PM
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weired it has nothing to do with update.xbe.. in xbrowser, what do you see in your C and E drive?.. are they unchanged?..
and for c folder in slayers.. what folder did you choose?.. dash files rae in System/ALL/C folder..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on January 28, 2006, 01:14:00 AM
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kingroach I'd first like to say thx for the kickass installer. Everything went fine but there were problems along the way that I think you need to know about.
I'm positive that I compiled the iso properly and there may be a chance that your script is crippled.
The reason I say this is because when I used option 4 to back up the C drive. I'd get a error that I can't remember off the top of my head but it was a syntax error. Maybe something like object not found....I'll post a picture tomorrow, it's 1:48 in the morning.
Also option number 2 did not work. I kept using it until I realised it was fuxored. It appeared as if parts of the script were exposed on the screen. I'd see echo commands and other things that I'm pretty sure shouldn't be there besides step 1 of 1 complete step 2 of 2 complete etc. etc.
It was obviouse that step 2 was crippled because it didn't swipe my c drive and over write it. I still had my same crap on there. I got the installer from xbins btw.
So what I did was swipe the c drive with xboxhdm, then dump the C: drive that I put on Xboxhdm from Slayers and use option 1. Which is to patch the drive.
I do have 1 very basic questions though.
Everything appeared to go off without a hitch. After I figured out the script problems. I locked the hard drive and the system booted great. I boot the msdashboard perfectly when using the eject button and when I boot with the power button it goes straight to the unleash-x dashboard.
Here's the question.
I'm selling this xbox to my 16 year old brother and he reaaaly wants to play online with Halo 2 so
I would really appreciate your input.
If I boot my game using the eject button which appears to deactivate the softmod and load a retail game that way he should be able to play on Live right?
If so great!
Also if you could you direct me to a sticky that informs me of things not to do to my Xbox that would help me not get banned from Live I would very much appreciate that.
P.S. I didn't install the UDDAE exploit because I didn't know if I needed it.
I am following thie guide and have made the bootabel cd with Ndure for use with xboxhdm.
I am using hotswap conncection with my pc. When i boot up Xboxhdm I start "Xbrowser" to brows to /CD/Ndure and run the ndure file. The program start and i choose option 2 "completely erases C drive and copy ndure files"
Everything seems okey, I eveen got the message all ok, but c drive has not been erased and nothing copied to the xbox.
I am sure I ´m doing something obvious wrong since all I´ve learned about xbox, I´ve learned the last month here on this forum
I was thinking, that maybe I shouldn´t run ndure from Xbrowser but i didn´t found a another way
I appreciate any help i can get and thx for a great Forum
your not alone....read my above post. I wasn't able to use option 2 either. It happened exactly like you so here was my solution. I was guessing option 2 is used to delete any files in the c drive that live may pick up on (I don't know) so he created option 2 to format the drive and then install ndure. So what I did to substituate that method was "create a xbox hd from scratch" using xboxhdm.
Then once it recreates my c drive then I use option 1 in ndure.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 28, 2006, 08:42:00 AM
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kgonepostl,.. yah I saw that yesterday whn I used the script yesterday.. The script is actually fine.. Wehn I last compiled Ndure 3.0 in my computer, I used notepad to see if everyting is alright and when I saved the script, notepad fuckedup formatting in script.. I always use linux to make and test the script and I paid the penalty just when I used windows.. .. I will issue a fix asap..
as for live.. yes eject button deactivates the mod and you can go live.. you can also go live with coldbooting.. I dont think there is any sticky for not getting banned because nobody got banned.. and when mod is active you wont be able to go to live so that will prevent possibility of getting banned with modded xbox.
@firebadbobb,
This will but you should always fix error 21 with a fresh C drive files from Slayers disk or from your backup.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on January 28, 2006, 02:21:00 PM
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kgonepostl,.. yah I saw that yesterday whn I used the script yesterday.. The script is actually fine.. Wehn I last compiled Ndure 3.0 in my computer, I used notepad to see if everyting is alright and when I saved the script, notepad fuckedup formatting in script.. I always use linux to make and test the script and I paid the penalty just when I used windows.. .. I will issue a fix asap..
I'm glad i was able to offer some form of help with your wonderful creation. It's a great installer.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on January 28, 2006, 03:15:00 PM
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I have now just tried option 1 on the xboxhdm (formated C and E and build new partition)
I got a Alternative there if I wanted to copy som files from the Cd to C, answered No there. Can someone confirm if that is right
Then I used xbrowser and ran Ndure with option 1, but I still get the same message as always
It seems like you were doin it correct before if you used option 1 in Xboxhdm and when it asked if you want to dump your C: drive you should say yes because it will look in Xboxhdm/C:/ and dump what's in that folder. If it doesn't dump anything like it should I'd suggest you check the contents of your disc and see if there is in fact anything in Xboxhdm/C:/
Get back to us.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on January 28, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
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Kingroach I got a problem. I tried booting my retail splinter cell to go on live and create an account and it kicked me back to the msdash. I tried coldbooting and it did the same thing.
Am I suppose to create my xbox live before I softmod it and do something after for this to work or is something wrong.....Man I thought everything was perfect but I suppose it's back to the drawing board.
Also I don't know if this matters but I didn't check the UDDAE checkbox in the ndure installer for pc. I have no idea if this matters but if it does let me know. I really want to get my brother on live. I was able to connect to try to make an account when I had my virgin C:\ dash with no softmod. Now it just kicks me to the dash when i try to make an account with splinter cell.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 28, 2006, 08:40:00 PM
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@sulingen, you cannt view movies with unleashx.. you need XBMC for that.. and you nee dto ftp that in your xbox.. for FTP, you need to connect xbox with pc with a network cable.. there is networking tutorial in xbox-scene tutorial section.. check them out..
@kgonepostl, yes you are supposed to create a xbox live account before you softmod.. But its no big problem.. you can just place a file called boot1.bin in E:\ drive. Then turn on your xbox with eject button and xbox will boot into xbox live console.. for there you can make a live account.. after that.. just delete boot1.bin from E:\ drive and xbox will boot as normal to MS dash..
as for boot.bin, you can rename any file into boot.bin and place it into E:\ drive.. Normally XBL console is turned off because it doesnt work with Ndure softmod.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on January 28, 2006, 09:42:00 PM
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My appologies kingroach. I did read something about the .bin file and that it doesn't have to be any certain size. I just don't remember where i read it or what specifically it applied to. Thank you for your patience once again kingroach.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on January 29, 2006, 12:24:00 PM
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{: kgonepostl, you/bro could potentially benefit from the other advice too; http://forums.xbox-s...ic=481488&st=30 :}
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: whenever on January 29, 2006, 07:15:00 PM
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Is the "Virtual disc" function removed from Version 3 installation?
With version 2.1 I am able to ftp an .iso file to xbox and use a special default.xbe to start the game but with version 3 installation I can't do this any longer. I managed to solve the issue by copying the bios.xbe of Version 2.1 back but then I lost the ability to boot to retail mode.
BTW, is there any easy way to edit the contents of shadowc.img file?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 29, 2006, 07:21:00 PM
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I did this to a friend of a friend's xbox and apparently the first time he powered it up he got the UnleashX dashboard and now all he can get is the XBL dash when he uses the eject button. When he uses the power button... he gets a black screen, a funny noise (just for a few seconds) and the eject button light is yellow/orange.
Obviosly, its not a good thing that he can't get to UnleashX dashboard... any ideas would be great.
He is very adament that he WAS able to get to the UnleashX dashboard... but then after returning was NOT able to and was greeted by the blank screen and orange eject button.
(btw: if it matters he only has the yellow/white RCA cables plugged in... not the red)
I did the UDDAE or whatever it is .... and then the xbox was UNplugged for 2/3 hours probably... hopefully thats not the cause because the guy and his xbox live a ways from my house and I really don't want to have to have him bring it back or something
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on January 29, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
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JimmyGoon, change the Xbox's time (via the MS dash) and see if that fixes it.
If not then, if you didn't choose the xonlinedash console install option, try triggering the UDDAE (from the MS dash) to launch the softmod instead...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 29, 2006, 09:11:00 PM
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Is the "Virtual disc" function removed from Version 3 installation?
With version 2.1 I am able to ftp an .iso file to xbox and use a special default.xbe to start the game but with version 3 installation I can't do this any longer. I managed to solve the issue by copying the bios.xbe of Version 2.1 back but then I lost the ability to boot to retail mode.
BTW, is there any easy way to edit the contents of shadowc.img file?
virtual disk function was never changed.. here is how someone got it working with nkpatcher_11..:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3165281
to get retail more working with Ndure 2.1 bios, just rename C:\xb0xdash.xbe to msxboxdash.xbe and you will be able to boot msdash with eject.
@JimmyGoon,
I believe that your friend's unleashx dash is somehow messed up.. you can still boot to Ms dash with eject button so that means Nkpatcher is working and you get Orange LED with power button which also means nkpatcher is working.. boot any boot disk with ftp access and copy unleashx dash in E:\dash\ folder.. I believe theres something happened with unleashx because if the dash was missing then Nkpatcher would boot into evox in rescue mode..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 29, 2006, 09:19:00 PM
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virtual disk function was never changed.. here is how someone got it working with nkpatcher_11..:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3165281
to get retail more working with Ndure 2.1 bios, just rename C:\xb0xdash.xbe to msxboxdash.xbe and you will be able to boot msdash with eject.
@JimmyGoon,
I believe that your friend's unleashx dash is somehow messed up.. you can still boot to Ms dash with eject button so that means Nkpatcher is working and you get Orange LED with power button which also means nkpatcher is working.. boot any boot disk with ftp access and copy unleashx dash in E:\dash\ folder.. I believe theres something happened with unleashx because if the dash was missing then Nkpatcher would boot into evox in rescue mode..
grr.... that sucks. do you think theres any chance that the FTP portion is running? >_< thanks for all the help... I will have hm acquire a SC disk and try it out
JimmyGoon, change the Xbox's time (via the MS dash) and see if that fixes it.
If not then, if you didn't choose the xonlinedash console install option, try triggering the UDDAE (from the MS dash) to launch the softmod instead...
I did use the xonlinedash thing so thats out. also how am I supposed to be able to get to the MS dash
?? thanks (sorry for the dbl post guys)
(((((((((( HOLY CRAP. THE FORUM COMBINED MY DOUBLE POST AUTOMAGICALLY!!!!!! SHWEET!!!!!!!!!! )))))))))))) sorry for the caps but thats amazing
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 30, 2006, 04:50:00 PM
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Hey guys. I checked and I had him replace the UnleashX folder (E:/dash/) and also had him rename the folder and AGAIN
it comes up with the yellow/orange light and no dashboard.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY IDEAS PLEASE TELL ME. I'm very very desperate. He has FTP access through Splinter Cell so if its something relativly minor he can fix it so bring it on.
Is there a possibility that Nkpatcher is having some kind of problem?
thanks (if any of you are willing to help troubleshoot or brainstorm on AIM please let me know... or IM me: jimmygoon or just leave your s/n)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on January 30, 2006, 06:24:00 PM
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If the MS dash is still in the real-C then renaming (or deleting) /E/boot1.bin would switch to using it instead...
{= Fwiw, I expect the HULK-dash retail disc could be used to change the Xbox's settings via the xonlinedash console too. =}
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 30, 2006, 06:38:00 PM
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Oops, my bad, "XBL dash" hadn't sunk-in and I was thinking the regular dash was eject-booting!
If the MS dash is still in the real-C then renaming (or deleting) /E/boot1.bin would switch to using it instead...
{= Fwiw, I expect the HULK-dash retail disc could be used to change the Xbox's settings via the xonlinedash console too. =}
sorry but what good is the MSDASH gonna do me???????
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 30, 2006, 07:00:00 PM
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Its very unlikely that its nkpatcher issue but for being safe.. create another installation the installer and just copy bios.xbe to C:\bios.xbe and dash folder to E:\dash\ and also ndts folder to E:\.. and see what happens..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 30, 2006, 07:46:00 PM
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Its very unlikely that its nkpatcher issue but for being safe.. create another installation the installer and just copy bios.xbe to C:\bios.xbe and dash folder to E:\dash\ and also ndts folder to E:\.. and see what happens..
>_< no!!! that sucks. this guy like lives 1-2 away and I really don't want to a) make him do that make him bring his xbox back
ahhh >_< if he does I'll probably just Slayer it and then use Krayzie's installer >_< but for now I will continue the struggle... grrr...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 30, 2006, 08:18:00 PM
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that is a possible fix.. tell him to return xbox to stock and remod it again.. Krazye's 1.1 has been released and thats preety noob proof so your friend could do that himself.. Otherwise I belive the mod is working correctly since all dual boot options are working..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on January 30, 2006, 08:39:00 PM
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sorry but what good is the MSDASH gonna do me???????
To change the Xbox's time and see if that fixes it, like I said originally.
The reason being, from what you said originally, the capacitor likely drained so maybe{?} the new Nkpatcher time setting feature is involved somehow.
{? I don't know if it could be, but if it is then resetting the time via the MS dash might fix it... ?}
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 31, 2006, 05:32:00 AM
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that is a possible fix.. tell him to return xbox to stock and remod it again.. Krazye's 1.1 has been released and thats preety noob proof so your friend could do that himself.. Otherwise I belive the mod is working correctly since all dual boot options are working..
the problem with that is... I have no idea what all the NDURE PC INSTALLER puts on there so I don't know what to tell him to delete. Further more I'm not prepared to torrent the entire Slayers Disc.... take out the C drive... zip it, upload it to my website and then have him download it >_<. So I'm trying to prevent that if at all possible.
I'll have him change the time tonight by delete eboot1.bin or whatever its called and then going to MS Dash. If that doesn't work I'll just have him bring it back.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on February 01, 2006, 04:43:00 PM
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WHOA. He renamed boot1.bin and got him back to the MS Dash. He got to the dash.... fixed the time (it was only off a year) and then waalaa... UnleashX works!!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on February 01, 2006, 06:11:00 PM
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looks like NP was right all along.. There ha sbeen also another problem with clock settings with nkpatcher.. I will talk to xman954 about it..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on February 01, 2006, 06:32:00 PM
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He copied some directories to the E:\ drive and rebooted and now it doesn't work.
It starts up and freezes at "UnleashX" and IT FREEZES ... and the yellow eject light is on
THIS IS DRIVING ME NUTS! Any ideas now. He checked the clock (again...) and nothing.
EDIT THAT: He checked EVERY setting and its all there.
EDIT2: According to this: http://www.xbox(INSERT A DASH HERE)hq.com/html/postp71169.html someone claims that Nkpatcher 11 is buggy. What version is NDURE INSTALLER using?
EDIT3: I just checked and according to kingroach's blog it IS using nkpatcher 11... is that the culprit? Also I hope this isn't against the rules but I modified the link about... the forum edited it for "Warez" but thats not what I'm linking to so I hope I don't get into trouble. 
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on February 01, 2006, 07:06:00 PM
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NKpatcher-11 could be buggy.. and Ndure installer is using nkpatcher 11.. But I am not sure about bugs.. Nkpatcher 11 is running in all my mechines fine.. Krazy's beta test he also mentions problems in some boxes.. But he also never got any problems in his boxes. so nkpatcher could be the cause of problems since it happens to happen at random boxes..
if possible , tell him to replace unleashx dash with any other dash ( ava/evox).. if that doesnt do then replace the bios in C:\folder with the bios from Ndure 2.1 which is using NKpatcher 10..but if you do that you wont be able to switch xonlinedash/msdash..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on February 01, 2006, 07:15:00 PM
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NKpatcher-11 could be buggy.. and Ndure installer is using nkpatcher 11.. But I am not sure about bugs.. Nkpatcher 11 is running in all my mechines fine.. Krazy's beta test he also mentions problems in some boxes.. But he also never got any problems in his boxes. so nkpatcher could be the cause of problems since it happens to happen at random boxes..
if possible , tell him to replace unleashx dash with any other dash ( ava/evox).. if that doesnt do then replace the bios in C:\folder with the bios from Ndure 2.1 which is using NKpatcher 10..but if you do that you wont be able to switch xonlinedash/msdash..
ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
grr... ok
I know its not the dashboard... even though I will TRY something else ( it has worked before so why would it stop)
any other ideas in the meantime would be appreciated!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on February 01, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
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other idea would be get the bios.xbe from ndure 2.1 and replace it in the C:\bios\ folder.. and rename C:\xb0xdash.xbe to C:\msxboxdash.xbe to have dual boot.. but xbox live dash wont work.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on February 01, 2006, 07:31:00 PM
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other idea would be get the bios.xbe from ndure 2.1 and replace it in the C:\bios\ folder.. and rename C:\xb0xdash.xbe to C:\msxboxdash.xbe to have dual boot.. but xbox live dash wont work.
he doesn't care about that. I'm just gonna grab the ndure 2.1 c:\bios\xbe and then rename xb0xdash to msxboxdash
and that should get me (what kind of) dual boot? what about that boot1.bin file on the E drive?
thank you very much
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on February 01, 2006, 07:38:00 PM
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that would give you normal dual boot.. boot with power button = nkpatcher/dash. Boot with eject button = Ms dash.. E:\boot1.bin will have no effect..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JimmyGoon on February 01, 2006, 07:44:00 PM
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alright. will call and edit this post w/ response. after I find ndure 2.1 and xbe and >_< AH
EDIT: same thing. stuck screen. rename xb0xdash.xbe to msxboxdash.xbe and then I renamed the C:\bios folder to C:\--bios and then I added the bios folder from ndure-2.1
same stuck screen but this time the eject button is green (but thats because of the old nkpatcher in 2.1 and the fact that it doesn't change the eject light)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on February 01, 2006, 08:13:00 PM
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well.. then it seems it might be dash issue.. ( very strange/unlikely).. did you replace the dash yet?.. unleashx could get stuck if there is no config.xml file there.. try getting a basic dash like evox and see what happens..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on February 04, 2006, 09:18:00 AM
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here is a nkpatcher I use with configs and modifications etc.:
http://mysite.verizo...her11_U02_k.zip
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ver_arocena on February 10, 2006, 12:21:00 AM
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Good day to you all, and first off thanks to kingroach for the NDURE package.
I'm totally new to softmodding and was surprised to learn about these exploits.
NDURE for xboxhdm worked very well for me but I'm not sure I did everything correctly.
This is what I did:
1. Executed NDURE 3.0 for PC and installed it on an "EMPTY" folder on my PC (no retail dash)
2. I went for the custom install and check "ALL" the boxes except for "Create xboxhdm installer".
3. I then copied the C and E folder to the linux folder of xboxhdm and created the .iso image.
4. Booted xboxhdm and run xboxhd, recreated the partitions and formated C and E on /dev/hda.
5. I then fired xbrowser and copied the CD's C and E folder files to the appropriate C and E partitions.
6. Checked everything, locked HD and reinstalled HD on xbox.
7. UnleashX boots and everything looks fine except that I dont get any sound (maybe because of the missing Audio folder/files).
Problem is I cannot boot to msdash. I checked C drive using file manager but it has no files in it (maybe its shadow C). Tried other posts suggestion to copy retail xboxdash.xbe to shadowc(?) but I got error code 3, (cannot create etc). Also tried deleting shadowc.img but went to a blank screen after my reboot. But idea.
No choice now but to redo everything this evening.
Now this is what I am planning to do.
1. Copy "ALL files" except settings_adoc.xip of my original retail C drive to a E:\NDURE\C folder on my PC.
2. Do I need to delete the fonts folder or only its contents?
3. Run ndure and point it to E:\NDURE still with full option.
4. Remake the xboxhdm .iso image and add the new files from NDURE.
5. Boot xboxhdm, repartition and reformat xbox HD and copy C and E of CD to HD using xbrowser.
Hope someone can tell me if my procedure is correct especially with the fonts folder.
Do I need to copy or rename my original xboxdash.xbe to msxboxdash.xbe and put it in C:\
Also, what does "copy a retail dash to shadowc" mean? Does it mean original files to virtual C or to the shadowc folder?
Sorry for the long message and I hope that someone will have the patience to read it.
Thanks to all.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on February 10, 2006, 06:36:00 AM
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This is the correct steps.. You dont need to delete settings_adoc.xip yourself and dont need to delete fonts folder.. the installer will do that for you.. but no harm if you deleted yourself.. now you dont need to manually copy files with xbrowser.. if you used option "1" in xboxhdm optionit will recreate the HD using all C and E drive files.. However instead of going through all the troubles.. Just go to "ndts" folder in E:\ drive.. ( if you selected add Ndure toolset).. then just run default.xbe.. it will disable shadowc and then you can copy appropriate files for MS dash.. files needed for Ms dash are:
Audio
fonts
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xodash
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ver_arocena on February 13, 2006, 12:38:00 AM
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Thanks kingroach, finally got ndure to work including the tray state feature. can now revert back to retail dash with eject button.
only problem now is that i have no audio with defaut dash (maybe because of the blank shadowc.img). is there any way to make a shadowc.img of the retails files? probably by linux dd command or any equivalent tool so that my virtual c will not appear empty.
kadepollack, i had the same problem before, as it turned out i did not include the retail dash files before running ndure installer. try to put it in a directory in your pc as stated in the readme and run ndure on it.
also, i find it easier to transfer files using xbrowser rather than the ndure script. no offense kingroach, the script works fine but i used xbrowser so that i can check if all the files were copied exactly as how they should be.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: PatrikPatrik on February 20, 2006, 01:18:00 AM
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I have a PAL XBox modded with Ndure 3.0, which I want to change to NTSC and enable HDTV. If I run Enigmah, I can switch to NTSC, but when I start MSdash (i.e. start with eject button) it starts in PAL, and I can not enalble HDTV. How can I change this? I guess this is related to the virtal eeprom.
image in the right place
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: jonels on February 21, 2006, 06:43:00 PM
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You could try putting a copy of your eeprom.bin file in e:\shadowc\eeprom.bin. This package may not have the default path though.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: radxrico on March 03, 2006, 05:38:00 PM
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i just noticed this topic and ive seen kingroach helping other people so i was intrigued of what he created.
so i have a few newb questions i think.
ive always wanted to play some games via live. and have access to the free month things here and there. so this being modded + playing live is really exciting. ive never played live so heres my first question:
if my box is modded and i have the games on my hdd and not the disk i can still do live right? because theres an xbox live option in game blah blah blah? pretty sure thats right just making sure.
second: since my box is already modded with my games etc.. i dont need to start from scratch to do this do i? [currently using the mech assault soft mod with unleash x dash]
any help would be greatful. and a mini tutorial on how to add this feature if possible.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 03, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
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you cannt play gamnes from hd in xbox live.. you will only be able to play original game dvd's.
you dont need to remod the whole thing.. Just copy the files in C and E drive.. and this mod uses unleashx so you done need to change your dash.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: radxrico on March 03, 2006, 10:39:00 PM
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sounds awesome. i might check that out sometime.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: 16 on March 03, 2006, 11:18:00 PM
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Will this work with all xbox versions? and can I still play Live?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: radxrico on March 05, 2006, 03:11:00 AM
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you cannt play gamnes from hd in xbox live.. you will only be able to play original game dvd's.
you dont need to remod the whole thing.. Just copy the files in C and E drive.. and this mod uses unleashx so you done need to change your dash.
so cant be a burned game either right? [just making sure]
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 05, 2006, 08:57:00 AM
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no.. you can only play original games in xbox live..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: radxrico on March 05, 2006, 11:22:00 PM
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no.. you can only play original games in xbox live..
awesome! cant wait to try it out.. anyone gotten banned yet? and if so does the banning go by like some kinda thing iny our xbox so you can NEVER use xbox live again there. or if u got a new like free 2 month thing could you do it again for awhile?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: callmeX on March 08, 2006, 02:00:00 PM
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Hi,
I've come along this softmod thingy in order to run an iso from the hd.
So I jumped right into it, and grabbed this ndure installer.
I've run it with settings for full retail setup and have not chosen any kernel specific font,
as my retail dash reports kernel version 5003.
Copied files to hd and everything went of smoothly,
boot to unleashx and boot to retaildash.
Then started isoripper from driveimageutils and managed to rip the disk to the hd.
The log file created by isoripper shows no errors.
I've run the attach.xbe in order to mount the created iso to virtual cdrom drive,
but it always sent me back to my dash.
Then I've come along this post by xman954
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?sho...0&#entry3118360
and to the conclusion that this line
;%define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
as it is commented out by default, might aswell not be enabled in kingroach's installer.
Then I altered that line in the config.inc from nkpatcher10+ and
also changed the dashboard path to match kingroach's file structure.
After compiling and replacing the bios.xbe (I assume that's the file to change, not sure on this),
I wasn't able to boot to unleashx dash anymore.
Is my assumption correct, that virtual_cdrom_drive is not enabled?
And if so, could please someone point me into the right direction
what I've possibly done wrong while changing config.inc.
here's the path to dashboard I've used
%define DASHBOARD_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition1\dash\default.xbe'
maybe kingroach himself can post his config.inc, so I could have a look.
Thx for reading
cmx
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: jonels on March 08, 2006, 03:08:00 PM
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Did you habibi sign the new nkpatcher xbe ?
Only thing I can think of as you seem to be able to understand the config.inc, making sure all the paths are correct.
Oh yeh (typing as i think so beware) if the shadow c: file shadowc.img is on the real c: drive then you need to change the real c: to partion 8 so you don't get nkpatcher trying to load the shadow c: image off the shadow c: drive. But i can't actually recall the exact way to configure it, try searching or someone else may help. This could also effect the virtual eeprom save file (eeprom.bin) location too.
Another reason for the drop-back to desktop could be the M$ dash settings concerning parental control (if you have an NTSC xbox) ..as this wouldn't affect you when in chip mode (if thats how your setup)
Also the default.xbe created in the same directory as the iso by isoripper should run the game.
This post has been edited by jonels: Mar 8 2006, 11:15 PM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 08, 2006, 03:21:00 PM
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download this nkpatcher.. this is the one I used in my installer :
http://mysite.verizo...her11_U02_k.zip
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: jonels on March 08, 2006, 04:00:00 PM
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@callmeX ..looks as if you were right Kingroaches config has indeed got that line disabled
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: callmeX on March 08, 2006, 04:32:00 PM
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thanks for the quick replies jonels & kingroach,
in the meantime I've got it working.
I started from scratch with the config.inc from nkpatcher10_xman.
Maybe there was a typo somewhere (I doublechecked for sure),
anyways, got it booting to dash finally, but still no luck with attacher.
I started changing more than one line at a time and got it working.
I have to narrow down which entry prevented it from launching later,
and will tell you my results.
I have that feeling that it has something to do with
;;; BOOT_DASH_ONLY = Don't boot DVD.
;;; NORMAL_BOOT_ALWAYS = Always boot first DVD then dashboard.
as the driveimageutils readme states:
cmx
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 08, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
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this two line is about how nkpatcher will boot.. if its set to normal boot always then nkpatcher will look dvd first and if there is no dvd in drive then boot dashboard.. and the other option will boot dashboard regardless of dvd.. I never use virtual cd but from it.. it should create a default.xbe alongside with the .iso and default.xbe should boot teh dvd.. I will test virtual dvdv tonight and let you how what happened..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Tomdabomb3333 on March 09, 2006, 11:46:00 PM
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Modded my old Xbox with success(4920), I then tried to mod a newer box using the same method....XboxHDM with the Ndure 3.0 Installer, Hotswapped, then I just copied the Ndure C and E folders over the original ones on my Xbox HD. This worked for my old box and from what i've read should work on all kernals....
should I redo the process and let the Ndure Auto Installer do the process for me?
Also had trouble making a ORIG_BACKUP. Said I didn't have enough space, went ahead with the install like I did before and it booted to an error 21.
HELP!!!!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on March 10, 2006, 09:59:00 AM
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Tomdabomb3333; correctly implemented Ndure setups (such as kingroach's and krayzie's) work on all kernels.
Correctly implemented Ndure 'retail' setups, aka dual-boot, have dependencies on dash 5960 (release 185EAD00).
You were wise by attempting to perform the backup first; some don't think to do that!
However, its failure indicated there was a problem (and just ignoring it has likely resulted in the subsequent issue).
{* I see that you've posted about this in at least two other places too (and advice is being given on how to overcome it)... *}
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 10, 2006, 12:49:00 PM
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ater you softmod you original hd.. just ftp in TDATA and UDATA folder from E drive.. when you create a new hard drive.. just put the folders in xboxhdm E folder.. or just backup and after you softmod.. ftp in the files..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 10, 2006, 04:33:00 PM
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no the install doesnt erase your E drive.. it just copies the files in there.. so unleass you try to build a new hd, your E drive is safe..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: jonels on March 10, 2006, 07:21:00 PM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: MajikNWA on March 10, 2006, 07:31:00 PM
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Okay....here's a weird one.
Installed with XBHDM (blind, nervously!). Plugged box back in - success!!!! I'm loking at Unleash X.
However, on further investigation, there's some reasonably major problems - and I can't figure them out!
1) No MSDashboard (Unable to launch, cannot find file) , but I think thats related to number two:
2) Can't FTP tp C drive at all, and file explorer says it's empty! Nothing, nada, zip, devoid of info, a big ol space, if you shouted it would echo...You get the idea. When i try to FTP it gives me a 550 error in FlashFXP and SmartFTP. I can't mke folders, I can't do a thing! I can mess with E all I like though....
3) No F drive whatsoever. Says ) bytes - does it need formatting?
BTW - Kernal 5838, retail HDD.
Help!
Majik
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: jonels on March 10, 2006, 07:48:00 PM
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Okay....here's a weird one.
Installed with XBHDM (blind, nervously!). Plugged box back in - success!!!! I'm loking at Unleash X.
However, on further investigation, there's some reasonably major problems - and I can't figure them out!
1) No MSDashboard (Unable to launch, cannot find file) , but I think thats related to number two:
2) Can't FTP tp C drive at all, and file explorer says it's empty! Nothing, nada, zip, devoid of info, a big ol space, if you shouted it would echo...You get the idea. When i try to FTP it gives me a 550 error in FlashFXP and SmartFTP. I can't mke folders, I can't do a thing! I can mess with E all I like though....
3) No F drive whatsoever. Says ) bytes - does it need formatting?
BTW - Kernal 5838, retail HDD.
Help!
Majik
1) you need to put a bolt standard M$ dash on c: (confused ? see 2)
2)Format c: (this is a shadow c: your real c: is hidden ...trust me, it's a safety feature)
3)yes
4)Stay away from slayers and get a copy of your eeprom.bin to your PC
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: MajikNWA on March 10, 2006, 08:10:00 PM
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Hmmm...F: formatted, and it now comes up in UX, but not in FTP software.***SCRATCH THAT - I SORTED IT***
Formatted C, but no change - still won't let me FTP to it.
BTW - I have the retail dash sitting here waiting to go...
Majik
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Tomdabomb3333 on March 10, 2006, 08:24:00 PM
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I just wanted to thank all who responded to my posts...yes i did post the same problem on another board, just to get a feel for what boards I should be posting to. It seems the Newbie chat gets alot of hits and im pretty much a noob.
im trying to get my hands on slayers 2.6 and it seems X-bins is down right now. Im going to try'n find it, and then hotswap the original M$ dash. Then try the softmod again....this time maybe the game expoit.
also had a question about where I should put the game save file if I hotswap....are they kept in the UDATA or TDATA folders?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: radxrico on March 11, 2006, 01:11:00 AM
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Instructions are on the first page of this thread, with nice pics to follow.
yeah ive seen those i just dont know which step i need to do since all i want to do is make it so i can play live on modded xboxes.. i also checked his official site to try to find more info but its the same as the thread. also was trying to find a dload spot cuz xbins has been down for the past 10 hours ;/
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: flipper321 on March 11, 2006, 05:34:00 AM
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Thanks for this - have successfully installed this onta a box that was previously running Ltools 1.8 UXE exploit...
however as always there is a question...!!
Is there any easy was to use a more recent version of nkpatcher? I need some of the more recent improved features (v8.1 or onwards) - how would I go about this..?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 11, 2006, 11:02:00 AM
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yah.. an update is in works.. so I will just enable virtual dvd in the update.. I have seen the toca race driver problems.. but never thought this was the cause of popularity..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: sco99 on March 15, 2006, 07:01:00 AM
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Hi there!
This is my first post and my english isn't that good, so be 'gentle'
In this past week I've read lots of threads in some foruns I've discovered, since I've bought my brand new xbox last saturday. The thing is I want to put my 160gb samsung 8MB cache 7200RPM ATA hard drive into my console. As fasr as I discovered, I need to get eeprom.bin from my original hard-drive. To do that, and because I don't have a memory card, I need to do the hotswap thing, right? I already downloaded Ndure, created the Iso and burned it. My xbox is K:5838 and D:5960 so I think there wont be any problem, altough I read about some bugs along this thread but think they are all resolved.
1. Is it realy necessary to softmod my original hard drive? I would prefer to mantain it in original state?
2. My ndure 3.0.exe's creation date is 22.jan.2006 11:38 - Is this the last one? (I've downloaded it in emule. Xbins says that I have to be invited!!!
)
3. I also downloaded Auto Installer Deluxe v3.0 from ** Links to Xbox Warez and Torrents **.com. Is it compatible with Ndure? It has lots of software that I want to install.
4. I'm going to run XBMC in every time i turn on my xbox and, from there, run games from dvd and Hard drive, play movies, music, etc. Maybe in the near future I'll register in xbox live and play some of my original games. I know that's possible but didn't understand the method. I want to register with my brand new hard drive. Is it ok?
5. Theres something that bothers me. ShadowsC is realy necessary? I read lots of post when people present problems with that. I think that it's important to do the dual boot thing, but isn't it bugy?
I think it's enough of newb questions
and forgive me for that. You know, this is the first time I'm going to do that and I realy want to be sure I don't mess up. As this is the forum that I liked most, I chose you to clear up my doubts. Thx in advance.
Scorpyo!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 15, 2006, 05:52:00 PM
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1. you will need to modify your original drive.. because iwthout mod. you cannt get the eeprom from xbox and without eeprom, you cannt make a new hd.
2. that should be the one.. the file size is about 14.2MB.. ( you could also download the file from the site you downloaded AID 3.0 from.. so check there)
3. I never used AID 3.0 or any other auto installer.. However, SID 4.5 ( is based on ndure installer) so it could be compatible but there is also potential to screw up softmod.. its best to download and install softwares manually..
4. yes you will have to register with teh new hard drive since XBL will allow only one hd per xbox,,
5. shadowc is not buggy.. you can always run your xbox without shadowc ( just uncheck the shadowc box).. People had some problems with shadowc but its actually fault of xboxhdm since it sometimes screws up file write permission.. so if you install with xboxhdm then just install mod without shadowc and then manually copy the shadowc file.. but mod will run fine without it.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: sco99 on March 16, 2006, 06:46:00 AM
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Hi there and thanx for the reply.
I can't do a softmod based in the gamesave exploit because I neither have a memory card nor one of the original games.
Maybe if the 1st thing I do is a backup of my /C, then I do all the process, reboot, ftp in, copy the eeprom.bin and after I make a new boot cd with eeprom.bin, I simply boot it in my pc, along with my xbox original hd, and restore my backup from E. Is that possible? Isn´t the process of softmod going to cleanup the /E, and therefore I loose all my files? Is it safe to do it and trust the backup on /E?
Another thing I didn't understand is why, in the hotswap faqs, they recomend to "setting the master password (It's important)". Is it realy necessary? I read somewhere in this forum, that someguy did it and after that he couldn't unblock the drive. It seems that he was using the wrong pass. I don't know.
One last question: When I have the boot cd with eeprom.bin, can I boot it with the new, unpartitioned 160gb hd and prepare it to xbox use? Is the boot cd the only thing necessary? If it is, I could then return my box's hd to it's original state.
Thanx one more time you guys. I knew this was a great forum!
Scorpyo.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: sco99 on March 19, 2006, 01:13:00 PM
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DONE!
I softmoded my xbox and putted my 160gbHDD in it. It works but when I boot it with the tray open, I get one error saying to call technical help. I've already read about some error codes when doing that, but I receive a message. Do you knoy what this is?
With my original hdd it worked well. It also was capable of runniing backups from M$ dash when I booted with eject. Is this normal too?
One more thing: I want to return my original hdd to it's original state. I have my early /C backup. Is it enough just to copy it to /C and cleanup (completely) my /E, including TDATA and UDATA?
Thnx
Scorpyo
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 19, 2006, 04:21:00 PM
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error on eject button means that you did not copy all the xboxdash files into new hard drive.. make sure that you have this files folders in xbox's C drive:
Audio (folder)
xboxdashdata.185ead00(folder)
xodash
fonts
xb0xdash.xbe (file)
copy the "ndure toolset /ndts" folder from the installer to E:\ drive and run it to disable shadowc if you used shadowc to look up in real C.
for returning to unmodded state, just delete everything from C and copy your backup to C drive.. you could also delete everything on E beside UDATA and TDATA folder ( this two folder has the gamesaves).
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ugenn on March 20, 2006, 02:54:00 AM
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I have ndure3 successfully running on my NTSC/J 1.6 xbox.
Thanks to kingroach and all contributors. I do have some
questions though:
- I have shadowc support enabled. Presently, anything I try
to copy into the empty c: results in error x. Also, how
can I access my real c:?
- There's a directory in e: named ndts. What's this for?
- What safety measures does ndure have? Suppose I accidentally
delete the unleashx xbe, what happens?
- Not sure if this is caused or related to ndure, but when I
run xromwell and try to load a linux kernel, the system hangs
at the 'loading /linux/vmlinuz' line. Anybody else experiencing
this?
Thanks.
Sorry, the 'error x' should be 'error 3'.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kadepollack on March 20, 2006, 08:48:00 AM
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will try to help ... but I am not an expert
- I have shadowc support enabled. Presently, anything I try
to copy into the empty c: results in error x. Also, how
can I access my real c:?
this is due to hotswapping. You should upload a new shadowc.img to your box to get rid of write protection.
- There's a directory in e: named ndts. What's this for?
this is where the ndure toolset lives. try running default.xbe from the e:ntds folder... you will see you are in "god mod mode" this is like the administrator account for ndure.
- What safety measures does ndure have? Suppose I accidentally
delete the unleashx xbe, what happens?
no idea
- Not sure if this is caused or related to ndure, but when I
run xromwell and try to load a linux kernel, the system hangs
at the 'loading /linux/vmlinuz' line. Anybody else experiencing
this?
no idea
sorry I couldnt be more help...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ugenn on March 20, 2006, 09:30:00 AM
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will try to help ... but I am not an expert
- I have shadowc support enabled. Presently, anything I try
to copy into the empty c: results in error x. Also, how
can I access my real c:?
this is due to hotswapping. You should upload a new shadowc.img to your box to get rid of write protection.
How do I create this shadowc.img? And how do I upload this to the proper location since I don't
have access the real c:?
- There's a directory in e: named ndts. What's this for?
this is where the ndure toolset lives. try running default.xbe from the e:ntds folder... you will see you are in "god mod mode" this is like the administrator account for ndure.
Will try. Thanks.
- What safety measures does ndure have? Suppose I accidentally
delete the unleashx xbe, what happens?
no idea
- Not sure if this is caused or related to ndure, but when I
run xromwell and try to load a linux kernel, the system hangs
at the 'loading /linux/vmlinuz' line. Anybody else experiencing
this?
no idea
I found out what the problem. xromwell freezes when it can't find the files to load. I had
an incorrect path in the config file. Yes, pretty stupid of me.
sorry I couldnt be more help...
Thanks, anyway.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 20, 2006, 03:01:00 PM
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if you delete the dash, then it will boot the dash in E:\ndts\ folder.
if you even delete "ndts" folder, it will boot into evox dash hidden into C drive.. and then if you still manage to screw up.. you could always boot boot dvd and fix any problem..
you can access your real C by running the the deafult.xbe in "ndts" folder. To upload a new shadowc, just delete shadowc.img in C:\shadowc\ folder. Then with Ndure installer just create a shadowc ( select add shadowc checkbox).. and upload the shadowc image in C:\shadowc\..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: reeffreaker on March 20, 2006, 08:02:00 PM
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I installed the Ndure+UnleashX soft mod and it worked great for a couple days.. What happened is I was loading NBA Live 2005 and I opened the drive to pull the disk out after it loaded, and when I rebooted the the machine I got the green screen of death with error 21 in the corner.. Games still load, but without a disk I get the multilanguage message.. Problem is I didnt back anything up. Am I screwed, or can someone point me in the right direction? Any ideas are greatly appreciated.. thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 20, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
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can you boot any burned dvd?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kadepollack on March 21, 2006, 02:22:00 PM
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HELP! I think I screwed up my buddies softmod!!!
Here is the situation.
I have a softmodded box that is working 100% and have a larger drive installed.
The box I was working on, had a workign softmod, but the tray boot and ms dash option from unleash were broken. I thought this was easy to fix, so i replaced his shadowc.img and copied all the dash files to his real C.
(but not the settings_adoc.xip)
But now, now matter how I boot his box, it freezes on the MS logo screen.
I do have his HDD keys etc so I can unlock his drive and try to fix it... but I dont really know how to go about it.
What should I do?
My first impression is, use xboxhdm, unlock his drive, and put everythign that is on MY C drive onto his, then relock. would that solve the problem?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 21, 2006, 09:27:00 PM
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that would solve the problem..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: beergutt on March 22, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
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is there any way to get to the files on c after this is installed? i screwed something up with the ms dash so i can only boot it modded. i need to get into c and see whats going on
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on March 24, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
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launch default.xbe under E:\ndts\ folder and you can see original C drive.
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few changes coming for ndure installer 3.1
xdk setup
easy switch between dualbooting xdk/xbl console/xboxdash without changing nkpatcher
modified xshell.xbe to use xboxdash on C drive with debug dash ( optional)
enable virtual cd/dvd within nkpatcher
and all the fixes in xboxhdm script
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on March 25, 2006, 12:15:00 PM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: jonels on March 26, 2006, 03:34:00 AM
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@ugenn...Yes it does, it also advisable to put a gamesave in place and get the relative game (I got Splinter Cell for £0.99 with £1.50 delivery from e-bay)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ugenn on March 26, 2006, 03:45:00 AM
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@ugenn...Yes it does, it also advisable to put a gamesave in place and get the relative game (I got Splinter Cell for £0.99 with £1.50 delivery from e-bay)
I don't mean a retail game disc, but my own CD-RW burnt with a
dashboard (renamed to default.xbe). I tried burning unleashx to
CD-RW but it doesn't boot. And yes, the disc is readable by the
file manager.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: A Murder of Crows on April 02, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
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Not sure where else to go with this.
I run mainly from Krayzie's installer 1.1. I just got an x3ce, x3cp+lcd, and an x3ir.
i want to have Krayzie's Ndure Softmod running while chip enabled so that i can use the LCD, IR, and if possible, color/flubber changes.
Yes, i know having a mod chip and a soft mod on the same system is pretty much pointless for most practical uses, but i like the features NKPatcher does (ShadowC primarily), and since i install Krazyie's on all my friend's systems, i'd like to make sure that my system matches theirs as much as possible as far as hard drive setup.
I can't seem to get much help from anyone in figuring out 100% how to do this. from what i gather, NKPatcher patches the bios in memory....but since no one can give me a straight answer besides "That's pointless", i can't figure out if it would be possible to load the stock MS Bios onto the chip, boot the chip from that bank, and have NKPatcher do it's thing.
Would NDure/NKPatcher work this way (stock bios on chip)?
thank you
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on April 02, 2006, 04:28:00 PM
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It should.. I think I have seen retail bioses in xbins bios folder.. so if you flash X3 with it and have an exploited C drive then nkpatcher should work.. I cannt test since I dont have a chipmod..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: A Murder of Crows on April 02, 2006, 07:17:00 PM
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Do newer mod-chips have an off mode, so the retail bios gets loaded for xbox live ? or is 1 of the banks flashed with retail as Kingroach suggested ? maybe a mod-chip user could en-lighten ?
Anyway, I guess it would be just a matter of editing the bios file on the mod-chip to avoid any clashing with the Ndure setup..ie dash boot paths
For me, the off mode doesn't work as i need the LCD screen enabled, and the LCD only runs when the chip is on....i also want the color changing options, but i can't find info about that being bios spesific or if it is built into the chip...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on April 02, 2006, 07:58:00 PM
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bios bank can be flashed with any bios.. and all new modchips has recovery bank if anything goes wrong.. now.. I dont know if LCD or other fancy thing needs X3 specific bios or if its supported by application.. XBMC and unleashx seems to have lcd support so I think it depends on application to support the lcd not the bios.. if thats the case then you can run retail bios and have LCD support by xbmc/ux.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on April 09, 2006, 02:48:00 PM
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{=
kingroach (and xman954) FYI; I was confirming the dash pathing recently and the /C/shadowc/resc didn't work for me ... I peeked at bios.xbe and noticed it had partition2 (instead of 8).
=}
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: xman954 on April 09, 2006, 08:04:00 PM
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it does look in two places (partition 2 and ACTUAL_C_DRIVE if used)
it looks more like the path is not setup the same as where the installer puts the rescuedash
originally it was set for Krayize's installer,but Kingroach changed it and added his clever boot1 trick to it
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on April 10, 2006, 11:54:00 AM
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{^
Thanks xman954; instead of '\resc\default.xbe', this revision to kingroach's xboxapp.asm would presumably fix it then:
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on April 10, 2006, 07:10:00 PM
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its set like this.. I guess I need to change the partition2 to partition8..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: xman954 on April 10, 2006, 09:39:00 PM
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its set like this.. I guess I need to change the partition2 to partition8..
(ACD+030h) is 8
change both path's to what the installer uses
the 2nd one is if shadowC does not load...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: xman954 on April 12, 2006, 08:43:00 AM
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look into the external config file option (maybe helpfull for you)
NKPatcher11_U02, it has everything needed to do this by just adding one file (E:\NKP11_config.bin)
comment out;
;;;%define TRAY_BOOT
you will have to change the path setting for your setup and run the make_config.bat file on your PC
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: mynickis1234 on April 21, 2006, 07:30:00 PM
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Hey kingroach,
First thanks for the installer. The problem I have is my C partition on a clean (no softmods) 8 Gig XBOX disk has 341 MB free. The C partition that your installer makes up is 364 MB. I want to do the retail boot option which I believe you need the shadowc.img file to be able to do that so that any live updates have a dummy file to update.
I read a post a 500 posts ago in 2005 pre NDURE 2.0 that said you were going to move the .img to the E partition because some people were having booting problems when the .img was on the C partition.
Just wondering what happened with that and why theres not an option in the 3.0 installer gui to move the .img to the E partition?
Is there a workaround to this? Any C parition files that aren't needed? Saw some config file changes you were playing with too for the E drive shadowc.img, will those changes work?
K 5101
D 5960
Thanks again
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on April 21, 2006, 07:54:00 PM
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your C drive is about right.. you have 341MB left + about 150MB for dash is about 500MB.. All the Ndure files with shadowc will fit into your C.. the shadowc is 300MB and softmod files are 14MB for C drive.. so everything should fit well..
moving .img files to E partition doesnt work that well since whole idea behind putting them in C drive is to fill up the C drive so that updates cannt be done..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on April 21, 2006, 08:56:00 PM
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C:\xbox.xtf and C:\xbox book.xtf is extra.. you already have copy of them in the C:\fonts folder.. may be thats what causing the issue.. but as long as softmod is working and shadowc is working everything should be fine..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on April 22, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
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mynickis1234; incorrectly having the .xtf's in the (real) C root directory, like you now do, puts the softmod at risk! Plus, those being there means a sizable chunk of something Ndure is supposed to have is missing!!
I recommend you re-do the real C's installation, correctly, by either:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3346273 (if you have suitable ftp access)
or use this thread's first post's "3. Patching C drive files" method (and then replace your current real C with its).
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Dolfhin on April 23, 2006, 10:00:00 AM
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Hi,
I was wondering if someone could explain to me why it doesnt boot my dashboard. I am using Nkpatcher 11 (Unofficial) and my dashboard is located in :
'\Device\Harddisk0\Partition1\dashboard\default.xbe' E:\dashboard\default.xbe
'\Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\dashboard\default.xbe' F:\dashboard\default.xbe
I have no problem booting with the tray open but booting with the tray closed does not work. I have checked these Xbes and they work fine, are patched with the right key. I am running NKpatcher from UnleashX after PBL loads the X2 bios. I dont think this makes any difference but I mentioned it just in case.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: xman954 on April 23, 2006, 12:33:00 PM
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I am running NKpatcher from UnleashX after PBL loads the X2 bios. I dont think this makes any difference but I mentioned it just in case.
most likly thats is the case if it just hangs...
BTW if using eject to run the retail MSdash then kernal Patching is bypassed
also see
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3369756
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Dolfhin on April 23, 2006, 01:17:00 PM
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most likly thats is the case if it just hangs...
BTW if using eject to run the retail MSdash then kernal Patching is bypassed
also see
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3369756
Ah, thank you it might indeed be the problem. I will test some more and give you the fine details.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on April 26, 2006, 10:18:00 AM
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EvilDoor; it sounds like the Ndure Toolset is what you'd benefit from. Per the following "how to", you likely didn't have to re-hotswap ... and to ensure your setup is entirely correct, I recommend you still do this:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3346273
(That thread also indicates how to switch between the Eject boot being the XBL or regular MS dash.)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: saravan on May 06, 2006, 09:42:00 AM
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Followed Textbook guide and completed the mod. After I reboot the xbox it freez in the first screen ( XBOX logo, then xbox then MS screen).
After I executed ndure in the xbrowser window, I was getting the following response
Part 1 of 3
Part 2 of 3
cp: /cd/ndure/c/media/* : No Such file or directory
cp: /cd/ndure/c/bios/* : No Such file or directory
Then I tried putting my original PGR 2 and booted the xbox. Game is working fine. But without game it is not booting up. Since I am new to mod, I dont even know what is the first screen I should get after the modding. PLS HELP.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on May 12, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
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saravan; further to the above and your subsequent posts (in Textbook's "Ndure Softmod Through Xboxhdm" tutorial thread) the only advice I can give you is...
Here's an alternative method, that can be used successfully by anyone* and unlike the tut's 1st post and the one in this thread it guarantees* that Ndure 3.0 with MS 5960 dual-boot gets installed properly:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3395658
(*If the tutorial's method is successful, there's enough free space on E, the ftp setup is suitable and the steps are performed correctly!)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Ndure protagonist on May 20, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
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njd69; this will likely be the easiest way (to update to Ndure 3.0 with 5960 dual-boot):
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3346273
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: hotboi on June 12, 2006, 02:51:00 PM
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Can you run Ndure with tHc lite?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 12, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
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yes.. I remember installing thc dash with ndure.. forgot the process though.. Just read the installion instructions..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 12, 2006, 05:29:00 PM
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make sure that you have a copy of ms dash in shadowc.. thc lite has its own data directory so that shouldnt be a problem..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: alyn on June 18, 2006, 11:30:00 AM
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installed unleashX+ndure 3.0 and works great, no probs at all.
now i would like to use some roms but didn't see any emulator or place to put roms. how do i get roms up and running with this.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 18, 2006, 12:22:00 PM
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Get the emulators for your rom ( look at emulator section).. install the emulators in E:\emus\ folder or E:\apps\ folder.. and emulators have their own rom directory to put roms .
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 19, 2006, 02:31:00 PM
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thc needs two fonts in C:\fonts\ folder.. copying them to shadowc should work just fine.. I will check out thc-lite to see whats up with that and let you know..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on June 19, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
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hey kingroach it's been a while since I used your installer. did you fixe the broken script problem a while back? option 2 didn't work cause your script was broke I'm hopin that's fixed.
Well I got a new xbox and I flashed the new eeprom up. problem is it doesn't boot. I revirginized my c partition and she boots fine. Once I install your installer though I get a black screen no error. I'm hoping you updated. I'm downloading 3.0 from xbins and hopefully the new iso I compile with xboxhdm fixes this whole mess.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 19, 2006, 06:10:00 PM
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yah thats fixed.. look fro the updated script on the ndure installer for xboxhdm tutorial.. ( stickied one thread later)..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on June 19, 2006, 06:24:00 PM
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yah thats fixed.. look fro the updated script on the ndure installer for xboxhdm tutorial.. ( stickied one thread later)..
Why isn't it in xbins?
Can I get it from your blog source? I think in your blog source it said 3.0 beta.
LEMME KNOW! Wasting a lot of coasters here
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 19, 2006, 07:16:00 PM
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I havnt updated blog in ages.. IT will be uploaded in xbins with the next version of ndure installer.. get the new script from here:
http://www.360mods.net/VGA/ndure ( right click>save target as)
now create your usual setup with the installer and replace "ndure" file in xbox\ndure folder with the new one.. rest of the options is still the same..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on June 19, 2006, 08:28:00 PM
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I need to report this bug BADLY. This has happened twice already and usually very quick after I install.
first happened with star wars battlefront 2 when it's updating I get some error and it couldn't update. Then my xbox pops up with an error 21. I can only boot games into live by having the game inside while booting.
I just installed it again now with my new xbox since my old one broke 5 months later. Anyway, well I install the installer and pop in counter strike. I get a dirty disc errror when live is trying to update. Aborts. I get an error 21 again and again I can only boot a game with it inside. Not a huge deal but I do like to get into my original dash when needed. Is there a reason it is doing this? It may not even be a problem on your side but w/e
/report.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 20, 2006, 05:22:00 AM
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Its nota bug.. more of a feature.. Usually in a softmod when you have older dashboard and play some live games it will update your C drive and all softmod.. so ndure does block any update but by the time time it stops atleast m sdashboard gets screwed.. You need to have most recent dash update first and then install the softmod ( latest version is 5960)..
get the slayers disk, extarct ms dashboardd files from it.. in run E:\ndts\default.xbe, go to C drive. There should be a folder called xboxdashdata.du delete it and copy xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder to C.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on June 20, 2006, 10:15:00 AM
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That was probobly the problem with my old xbox. I know for sure that my new one I just worked on was updated completely. I connected to live with splinter cell before I patched my drive with yours patched to get the update. My dash fuxored this time with counter-strike when connecting to live without an account and trying to make an account. It tried to do an update then dirty disc error... The disc doesn't look dirty at all it looks brand new. Any Ideas?since I completely reinstalled the installer again how to avoid that? I haven't made a live account so I don't know if your installer is doin that because I'm trying to make a live account from counter-strike and it purposely fuxors or what the deal is. Sorry I'm really dazy from last night I hope you get what i am trying to say.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 20, 2006, 07:53:00 PM
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I dont think nkpatcher or ndure cause this issues..For signing in to xbox live.. revert back to retail state ( remove the softmod/ copy a fresh C files in c drive).. make an account , delete any CS gamesaves and see if it still gives error 21..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: jonels on June 22, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
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Virtual drive is not enabled in this package. Kingroach did post his source files and config on @page 40 of this thread... you will need download it and edit the cfg file to enable 'virtual drive' and then recompile and sign the xbe. Then replace it with the one from the package.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: skridsko on June 23, 2006, 01:53:00 AM
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Virtual drive is not enabled in this package. Kingroach did post his source files and config on @page 40 of this thread... you will need download it and edit the cfg file to enable 'virtual drive' and then recompile and sign the xbe. Then replace it with the one from the package.
Thanks for the tip. Apologies for repeating this question, didn't realise that someone asked the exact same question some pages back (it's a really long thread!). Just to make sure I'm going in the right direction, can I confirm the steps I should take:
1. Download Kingroach's nkpatcher zipfile
2. Uncomment the line in config.inc: %define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
3. Run make_nkp11.bat
4. Replace /C/bios/bios.xbe in my xbox with the newly compiled bios.xbe
While I'm at it, may I know what's the difference between the parameters in confic.inc and config_runtime.inc and what does the make_nkp11.bat batch file generate?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ugenn on June 24, 2006, 09:38:00 AM
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What's the bare minimum files required for the ndure exploit to work?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 24, 2006, 10:36:00 AM
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You can get the bare files by unchecking ""retail files" checkbox. basic files are:
xboxdas.xbe
two fonts in C:\xodash\ folder
bios.xbe in C:\bios\ folder
dashboard in E:\dash\ folder
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 25, 2006, 05:51:00 AM
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no fonts are open source.. only the dashboard ( unleashx) contains xdk codes.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 25, 2006, 07:24:00 AM
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patches are illegal too as they also contains MS codes..Only legal thing in the package is fonts and nkpatcher which are open source.. But they are also in gray area since they are illegal in US by DCMA law.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on July 01, 2006, 08:54:00 PM
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Ndure. How the heck do I uninstall your softmod? I can't figure it out. I plan on installing krazie ndure softmod installer. I prefer the layout. No disrespect.
Can you help me out?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 02, 2006, 04:14:00 AM
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Run E:\ndts\default.xbe. Delete everything from C and replace with clean C drive files. Delete Dash and ndts folder on E:\
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on July 02, 2006, 07:44:00 PM
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essentailly what I'm doin is deleting the contents of the C partition using the hacked dashboard. Then I drop the Slayers C drive in there using the hacked dashboard. When I'm done with that. I delete the hacked dash and the ndts folder right?
Another thing. Can I just drop Slayers clean C on my F partition then drag and drop using the ndts when the time comes? I haven't tried this yet but I feel this is how it can be done.
Am I correct in all this? I really don't feel like gettin banne from live
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 03, 2006, 06:39:00 AM
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you can do that too.. After you copy files to F drive, using unleashx file explorer delete everything from C and then move C drive files to C.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on July 03, 2006, 12:05:00 PM
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I need to activate my xbl account today. I remember putting a boot1.bin file in some directory I just forgot which directory to activate teh dash. Please let me know. You kick ass kingroach thx for all your help.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 03, 2006, 12:20:00 PM
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Buckhorn2, your real C drive must have some ms dash files missing, thats why you get error. As for not booting original games.. You can try deleting E:\ cache and formatting X,Y,Z drives in unleashx format menu.
kgonepostl, place the file in E:\ drive ( root)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Buckhorn2 on July 03, 2006, 01:29:00 PM
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thanks kingroach for the info, i deleted cache, and formatted xyz, with unleashx. still didnt work, any other ideas.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 03, 2006, 03:43:00 PM
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thats weired.. playing original games has nothing to do with softmods.. install some other application like avalaunch, load the game and look if you can see the files in D:\ ( dvd drive)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Epaige on July 03, 2006, 05:11:00 PM
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i ran avalaunch,, when i put a original disc in it boots back to msdash and says disc error or not a game or dvd error disc not recognized.. the filemanger of both unleashx and avalaunch shows NO files in d drive when original disc is in there.
dvd2xbox will not read the original discs either.
any other ideas.
Wonder if itss you parental settings on MSDASH..But i doubt that cause backups load...I would almost bet its the dvd laser..Theres really nothing else that would cause this..Also are the origs all scratched up?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Halloween Jack on July 07, 2006, 09:01:00 PM
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Hi - I softmodded and installed XMBC.
I know that it is important to back up the EEPROM file to my PC... just in case - but I can't find it anywhere - It sounds as if it is "hidden" - but how can I prevent from losing my beloved box??
Also, I am having problems getting XBMC to be the dash - all the shortcuts tutorials don't seem to work.
Thanks!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ugenn on July 12, 2006, 08:55:00 AM
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- what is C:\xodash\x2onlinedash.xbe used for? i ran xbedump
on it and it says it doesn't have a valid signature.
- where does the exploitable dash look for the media files?
i have similar files in C:\media and C:\xodash\media.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 12, 2006, 09:44:00 AM
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-x2onlinedash.xbe is -habibi signed. Its used as a hacked xbox live dash.You can switch between default boot to x2onlinedash.xbe ( XBL dash) abd xb0xdash.xbe ( xbox dash) by placing boot1.bin file in E:\ drive.
-exploit dash looks for media file sin C:\media\. The exploit dash is same as xonlinedash.xbe from 4920 dash. and looks for media files in the directory its in. Since you are using it in C root, thats why media files are in C;\ root.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ugenn on July 12, 2006, 10:13:00 AM
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-x2onlinedash.xbe is -habibi signed. Its used as a hacked xbox live dash.You can switch between default boot to x2onlinedash.xbe ( XBL dash) abd xb0xdash.xbe ( xbox dash) by placing boot1.bin file in E:\ drive.
which dash is x2onlinedash based on? won't that fail the
signature check since the box is in retail mode?
boo1.bin exists = x2onlinedash.xbe, not exist = xb0xdash.xbe, or the way around?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 12, 2006, 10:20:00 AM
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correct.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ugenn on July 17, 2006, 07:49:00 AM
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x2onlinedash.xbe is based on xonlinedash.xbe. Its just hex edited to work with softmod. The .xbe uses an patch called FuckMS. What it does is boot a -habibi signed .xbe ( x2onlinedash.xbe) and bypass signature check. After the .xbe is loaded, it reverts back to retail state but by that time the .xbe is already loaded.
correct.
Ok, how does c:\xodash\x0nlinedash.xbe and c:\xodash\xonlinedash.xbe
fit into all this? I noticed that x0nlinedashx.xbe is the retail 5960's
c:\xodash\xonlinedash.xbe and c:\xodash\xonlinedash.xbe is the retail
c:\xboxdash.xbe. What's the deal?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 17, 2006, 07:57:00 AM
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x0nlinedash.xbe doesnt have any role in the softmod.. its just there as a backup of original xonlinedash.xbe and incase if you use ndure toolset to reverse the softmod. normal xboxdash.xbe checks for the authenticity of xboxdash,xbe in C:\ drive. But since we are using xboxdash.xbe from 4920 dashboard it will give you error. Thats why its replaced with 5960 xboxdash.xbe so if you click on xbox live tab on msdash you wouldnt get any error ( xboxdash will just reload)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 17, 2006, 09:45:00 AM
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they are the same, make sure you match bios.xbe with basic /retail/06/67 ( which option did you choose in pc installer).
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kgonepostl on July 17, 2006, 10:09:00 AM
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I beleive this is why I was banned and need to know if I'll run into this same problem using your installer or does it use a different (less susceptable) xboxdash.xbe
Thank you kingroach.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 17, 2006, 10:17:00 AM
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yup you are right.. .. its probably right before uploading to xbins, I changed a word or two in the nkpatcher source.. but both of them works the same. The difference between both files are .02 byte..Is there anything wrong with the bios ndure installer installed?..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ugenn on July 17, 2006, 12:04:00 PM
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when I put boot1.bin in e:\ and boot with tray open,
I get an error 21. (i can get the retail dash w/o
boot1.bin though).
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 17, 2006, 12:16:00 PM
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copy a fresh x2onlinedash.xbe ( I believe the signature in your .xbe is messed up as you posted earlier)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 17, 2006, 12:40:00 PM
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x2onlinedash.xbe only gives error if there is no xb0xdash.xbe in C:\ and missing font files in C:\fonts\
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ugenn on July 17, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
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1ae35811db2ecf5af08695ae8b681e6d ./xboxdashdata.185ead00/settings_parental.xip
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6ccd2d7f083ef995f3f67ce747e289a9 ./xboxdashdata.185ead00/waitcursor.xip
41b7a8fe061a1ff2552c9bf1188736f5 ./xodash/audio/livenowaudio/friend offline.wav
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d7c8b57e754b761d1b3101b3e709b3dd ./xodash/audio/livenowaudio/friend request.wav
cd580938613a5407eb8bcaffe2688667 ./xodash/audio/livenowaudio/game invite.wav
7fb1fe01240795fcbf564dabfad01b21 ./xodash/audio/voicechataudio/voice chat join.wav
8021bcf17888d2803c0e419cffa7dbb5 ./xodash/audio/voicechataudio/voice chat leave.wav
5a94e639b8f4e2af1030a203a9981b48 ./xodash/ernie.xtf
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a7db0e486f391ad9101ee7d9a6abe7ca ./xodash/media/xbg/act_activation.xbg
135c297799488b118e93deb8ba6ea44e ./xodash/media/xbg/act_admin_policy.xbg
158225c13adae3057c062fb8f6730be7 ./xodash/media/xbg/act_alt_names.xbg
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4f773200049c715436c27cad462d3725 ./xodash/media/xbg/act_congrats.xbg
66321645c2e21dc97221946871ad8894 ./xodash/media/xbg/act_copy_delete.xbg
11ef5a0db7ff1c4e57c372f5ca8a474c ./xodash/media/xbg/act_country.xbg
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d7b2f7b2c8444c353a00b61963a37ff0 ./xodash/media/xbg/act_id.xbg
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2997402d4dd252d0746e5790b35abeab ./xodash/media/xbg/act_new_opt_in.xbg
dbd09ce5f9fd916724997bbe64aa7e6c ./xodash/media/xbg/act_online.xbg
c71ca452229dcd95bfee26b7d9424f3a ./xodash/media/xbg/act_overwrite.xbg
81526772f069a1c81b76254399fb8666 ./xodash/media/xbg/act_passcode.xbg
ecbfd5abe9bde3f28e7e21722c85e47c ./xodash/media/xbg/act_restrictions.xbg
1f2a1cacb023ac3c754d9548a38e8039 ./xodash/media/xbg/act_state.xbg
112821cc587d1ad4cc99fa0d0a917273 ./xodash/media/xbg/act_sub_3button.xbg
5c1540d7ccec2c6607c8b0510f8f825a ./xodash/media/xbg/act_sure.xbg
e496c0538f2b825186b00e30f5709931 ./xodash/media/xbg/act_user_options.xbg
12ce8b2ae9d7d450660b7de5aebcaaf8 ./xodash/media/xbg/act_users2.xbg
f6bf945bea8ef86d593109b2d1866b89 ./xodash/media/xbg/addfriend.xbg
d414eabc933dc46e64b3703c54b8e574 ./xodash/media/xbg/anim_connecting.xbg
007a7e8f3f4b262414100cc48d8cbdb0 ./xodash/media/xbg/anim_wait_5.xbg
6b894fe7c6392836808dc6230bd7b0d0 ./xodash/media/xbg/backbutton.xbg
dbc004a2b3081507ae2c2efed71fb4a3 ./xodash/media/xbg/bud_actions.xbg
219a43d501df170e4affcae9e4b35e92 ./xodash/media/xbg/cellwall.xbg
007ac7c3ddedad86a662bc9b115d1f00 ./xodash/media/xbg/contextual.xbg
d26e11eb96b135eac630dfcee1b7e5fb ./xodash/media/xbg/feedback.xbg
afae13fb39cc559c24c85262509e888e ./xodash/media/xbg/friends.xbg
83c24a1a6ed4f405dc0caad816a0a204 ./xodash/media/xbg/gen_dob_tumblers.xbg
9e4d5fd47c810132f42bf9bc173a1908 ./xodash/media/xbg/gen_exp_tumblers.xbg
814dfbf474a031ab82f6271a4c0648db ./xodash/media/xbg/gen_large_panel.xbg
397c04b140e03b293b1a104e540d73fc ./xodash/media/xbg/gen_mess_panel.xbg
060728bbf7498173420a45be61b7c339 ./xodash/media/xbg/j_candidates.xbg
88c480d6b5ab9feb95b3e906760e2373 ./xodash/media/xbg/j_keyboard.xbg
6388aede82d338db42b55752aa5b9d06 ./xodash/media/xbg/k_keyboard.xbg
873fbf9ec6585103346bf0a381f95d93 ./xodash/media/xbg/keyboard.xbg
decf2d76e67af781ad34c220be6308f8 ./xodash/media/xbg/keypad.xbg
bd54bc1e4246605937a828b3b6278a95 ./xodash/media/xbg/nts_dns.xbg
9e100d8c7029c20cfc9bd7ee0fa6bc65 ./xodash/media/xbg/nts_ip.xbg
512de7f31ef378651a5e783965ea7f24 ./xodash/media/xbg/nts_settings.xbg
0a0d4a2ed3c61c86258d6d3ae3fe3837 ./xodash/media/xbg/nts_status.xbg
82a12b613465f617c90c7fdce118adef ./xodash/media/xbg/nts_wireless.xbg
c259f4d1276582d32044826f6d88cedc ./xodash/media/xbg/orb_master.xbg
bf0fcf1cde1d1aa92b7335ab5d8c10a3 ./xodash/media/xbg/selectbutton.xbg
912e6bd830337868cb9b51d30c8c0121 ./xodash/media/xbg/t_keyboard.xbg
dd2e8dcea71fc8fa661daa7d6c9b0f6d ./xodash/media/xbg/voicechat.xbg
662585947a38eff1b5e74e871ea4d5be ./xodash/media/xbg/voicemail.xbg
fc14f24784a74a5d48004e48880086cb ./xodash/media/xbx/button.xbx
ff23d97f5263ee657cdd7d528bb1c95e ./xodash/media/xbx/cellwall.xbx
7f24ebbab4f77fe612d0dd9491001e49 ./xodash/media/xbx/darken_opacity.xbx
6d8da8de70e262767600d2b84eec43c2 ./xodash/media/xbx/disabled.xbx
64f4dd2e2f5539ad6a11417abe0ef336 ./xodash/media/xbx/disabled_highlight.xbx
6a2124d31b374d9c3f426436aec35161 ./xodash/media/xbx/footer.xbx
c4fa23bce07f08dd360565d9b267b0b0 ./xodash/media/xbx/gamehilite_01.xbx
1e99278554e5d4a0e42b808ebd833385 ./xodash/media/xbx/highlight.xbx
65553de7e37186f96942948cbe4639b9 ./xodash/media/xbx/keyboard_alpha.xbx
fc46134b8dd7abf183e1d466d5afe6bf ./xodash/media/xbx/live_header.xbx
5a2da8c4c763cdcf6ab7c23deaa64205 ./xodash/media/xbx/live_highlight_disabled.xbx
f64b49852005cc389d205ea1de8d1048 ./xodash/media/xbx/livechrome.xbx
24459f91d4de55a521d2c75da81ac7de ./xodash/media/xbx/mess_panel_backing.xbx
9e442a174906ef3e06c04c5cd43b6ddd ./xodash/media/xbx/options.xbx
7ef04f5b0d0ce60e9ac385d5734d35a3 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel1.xbx
2852c18e0b898a0cd0f74d957d1c4e1f ./xodash/media/xbx/panel10.xbx
188290082b02fc03a2656ffdc131f309 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel11.xbx
bf234eb3313b4af0f04a7eea816b0819 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel12.xbx
c465aaacf64ff98d7e5c7501f15df4cd ./xodash/media/xbx/panel13.xbx
5b52636f2ae781df267c27ba4f1fa1f4 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel14.xbx
43ce1530ac07161c65b1ff5d02ddaf07 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel15.xbx
1c35588436ba6d4a437fb1d22e8ed029 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel16.xbx
7b9d574182f87b7c8bb9b1f16d07a234 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel17.xbx
192a162567836159e44355a13b108ec6 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel18.xbx
3d205c154cd434ae46009670b8a5c830 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel19.xbx
4958bbd39d6adc867a323bd14e7fedfb ./xodash/media/xbx/panel2.xbx
70fcee44a106f94f3d505b8fe36e89bd ./xodash/media/xbx/panel20.xbx
7ddc37a40c11f91c4f5709275753682c ./xodash/media/xbx/panel3.xbx
54ca9e18cadcabd704eff52270cf5aef ./xodash/media/xbx/panel4.xbx
9a92cefceb843e4b634ef4862b2838f0 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel5.xbx
5220d145a2d73f10018f822b746a33f9 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel6.xbx
0fb78b53c5b037f006342a10f13447f5 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel7.xbx
212a8b96d91eaab3788d33ea3f0f99d0 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel8.xbx
25b985d4c995f4898ea1c3344cf0d2f0 ./xodash/media/xbx/panel9.xbx
494a987d8bf0000ff972ec0926aa08dd ./xodash/media/xbx/plain_header.xbx
364898b79abf0110779b849a4df38154 ./xodash/media/xbx/pulse1.xbx
7d9b93b859d90f855dbb0a17170821bc ./xodash/media/xbx/pulse_3d_64_matte_trans.xbx
caabfdb8e5aa2390d001d60247ff3b72 ./xodash/media/xbx/ridges.xbx
48468dbefff5fb21d52f8b66418a89f2 ./xodash/media/xbx/wireframe.xbx
e86870b16246b4399a86c592a1f87b3b ./xodash/media/xbx/xbox2.xbx
67f33ec44e706a322e2550a342340a3c ./xodash/media/xbx/xbox4.xbx
77cf58d065229b28edda8b08709ac31d ./xodash/media/xbx/xboxlogo.xbx
c4816fb72fe27cd18bb04a109b9facd1 ./xodash/media/xbx/xboxlogow.xbx
bc99ef8730158ba1bf3f1c9c84520661 ./xodash/update.xbe
8149654a030d813bcc02a24f39fd3ce9 ./xodash/x0nlinedash.xbe
2b74986854f010ccf42cdd506e2a31f7 ./xodash/x2onlinedash.xbe
a942382a53c1ada0674361ab72ff012a ./xodash/xbox.xtf
08d3a6f99184679aa13008d6397bacce ./xodash/xonlinedash.xbe
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 18, 2006, 07:01:00 AM
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thats a lot of files to check.. you seem to missing "Media\Content\TChinese\twroc.dic" file. Other than everything looks good. Try deleting xodash\media\ folder and copy a fresh media folder from 5960 xboxdash's C:\xodash\ folder.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: SephirothTNH on July 23, 2006, 03:40:00 AM
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First of all I want to say thankyou for this great program I just used it in conjunction with xboxhdm to install a biger hard drive in my xbox. Sorry if this has already been answered I tried reading through this but then I just decieded to ask. What is the password in unleashx to edit the menu? and Where are the game saves located is it the Tdata and Udata folders?
Thanks, and sorry if these are nube questions; I've only had an xbox for about a week.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 23, 2006, 10:47:00 AM
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the password for format menu is "Xbox". If you want to edit the menu's of unleashx then get config.xml file from E:\dash\ folder and edit it.
All the gamesaves are E:\TDATA and E:\UDATA folder. There are bunch of folder with different names like "1cd12235". Every games have their different folders. You can check in unleashx gamesave menu to see what gamesaves is in what folder.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: blaron on July 27, 2006, 12:52:00 PM
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Okay, I'm guilty. I didn't read this entire thread. It's 52 pages long. I'd be reading for days. Sorry guys .
Anyway, I have been reading for days now, but I can't find my answers anywhere. I hate to use a link to another site, but I don't know how else to ask my question without doing so. I used this method to softmod my xbox, but I want to change to Ndure, and I don't know how to go about doing it. Do I need to delete my C drive and replace it with the one Kingroach's installer created, or just replace files? I'm at a loss here. Someone please help .
P.S. I know how to FTP into my xbox. I even have a rescue disk in case I mess up.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 12:58:00 PM
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Do you want to have dual boot and xbox live? or just use normal softmod.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: blaron on July 27, 2006, 01:57:00 PM
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Do you want to have dual boot and xbox live? or just use normal softmod.
Dual boot and xbox live, please.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 02:17:00 PM
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you should get a copy of ms dahs 5960 ( from slayers disk or if you have a copy). This dash is needed for xbox live. Now, create a folder called C and put the ms dash files there. Now, after you selected appripriate checksboxes in the indtsller ( fonts kernel version etc.) , as output path select the folder that has C folder with its dash files. After the setup finishes it will make a complete C drive replacement. Delete everything from C drive and copy everything from C folder to C drive and E folder to E drive. Just make sure earnie.xtf file was copied before xbox.xtf file ( you will see it in the ftp log files, check the screenshot in first page). That would upgrade the softmod with dual boot.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: blaron on July 27, 2006, 03:14:00 PM
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Okay, I think I'm starting to get it now. Are these the files that make up the 5960 Dashboard?
C:\Audio\
C:\fonts\
C:\xboxdashdata.185ead00\ (includes settings_adoc.xip)
C:\xodash\
C:\xboxdash.xbe
Also, my settings_adoc.xip file is 4.1 Megs. So I just delete it? Not replace it with something else?
In my C folder on HDD, I have a xboxdash.bak at 1,916 KB and a xboxdash.xbe at 1,872 KB. Seems to me like xboxdash.bak is the correct file, and was patched to become xboxdash.xbe. Is this correct?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 03:15:00 PM
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if you have 5960 dash then you need these files:
Audio ( folder)
fonts ( folder)
xodash (folder)
xboxdashdata.185ead00 (folder)
xboxdash.xbe
place the files in a folder called C and as a output folder in ndure installer select teh folder that has C folder. Then as I mentioned above, delete everything on C and copy C folder contents on C drive. just make earnie.xtf was copied before xbox.xtf ( ftp clients usually copy by alphabetical order so its usually copied first).
Softmods dont need TSOP/bios. It uses nkpatcher which on the fly patches the kernel. So all softmods can use the same nkpatcher ( kernel patcher) which is in C\bios\ folder called bios.xbe.
Since you have a eeprom reader you are out of any danger. If you mess up you can always unlock the hd with eeprom and have full access to hard drive. Also if you want to revive the other xbox you can also make a new hard drive with the eeprom.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 04:37:00 PM
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xboxdash.bak seems to be the correct file. Rename is to xboxdash.xbe and place it in C folder.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 06:07:00 PM
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The installer would overwrite any xboxdash.xbe file with its own so thats not a problem. If you can boot unleashx with power button and ms dash with eject button then you are all set.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 08:17:00 PM
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You probably have some extra files in your C drive and ms dash might be corrupted or some files missing. You should get 5960 dash files from slayers disk.. that way you know that all the files are there and no extra files are using space.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: blaron on July 28, 2006, 12:57:00 PM
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...I can't fit the whole 336 Meg Shadow image. It stops at 172 Megs, leaving 320 KB of free space...
I figured out why I can't fit the 336 MB file on my C drive. It seems my C drive is only 335.95 MB in size. Is that normal?
Also, my xbox hdd has "X", "Y", and "Z" partitions, all three empty and 749.89 MB in size. Do you know what those are for, and if we can use those partitions to maybe store things like music or pictures, then build a shortcut to get to them through UnleashX? Just a thought. Seems like a waste of 2.25 Gigs of space to me.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 28, 2006, 02:15:00 PM
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shadowc is already copied.. 335.95 mb = 336 mb shadowc file. I guess then so far you were trying to recopy the whole exploit in shadowc.. Make a file called shadowC_off.bin and place it in E drive and reboot, shadowc will be disabled ( untill you keep the file there)..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 28, 2006, 03:02:00 PM
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no.. its showing the right info. Job of shadowc is to pretend as C drive. This way it protects valuable files in actual C drive. The shadowc.img file is 336 MB. Thats why all the application thinks C drive is 336 MB. You were uploading files to this shadowc drive not actual C.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 29, 2006, 08:33:00 AM
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now that shadowc is disabled, you can reapir the ms dashboard if you are still having problems running ms dash with eject button.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 29, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
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I just remembered. . if you have any recent games you can get a fresh dash using dashupdate.xbe. Get fonts folder and Audio folder from C drive. Now delete shadowc_off.bin file. So, on reboot you will have shadowc enable. Copy Audio and fonts folder in the shadowcx and copy dashupdate.xbe and it will unpack a new ms dash in teh shadowc.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: blaron on July 29, 2006, 05:38:00 PM
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SUCCESS!! I extracted the 5960 Dash from the iso file in "AIDv3.0"and started Ndure again. Then I replaced the entire C drive. Works like a charm. Now that I am finished, should I delete the shadowC_off.bin file from E drive?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on July 29, 2006, 06:07:00 PM
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yah.. after you remove the file and reboot.. its better if you delete everything from shadowc drive and copy another copy ms dash in shadowc ( only ms dash).. unleashx and some other apps may require it.. buts its not necessary..good to see finaly you got it to work..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ugenn on September 03, 2006, 12:16:00 AM
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yup you are right.. .. its probably right before uploading to xbins, I changed a word or two in the nkpatcher source.. but both of them works the same. The difference between both files are .02 byte..Is there anything wrong with the bios ndure installer installed?..
kingroach, i just realised something. the bios.xbe from the
e:\ndts directory does not support CD booting. is it intended
to be this way?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 03, 2006, 06:42:00 AM
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booting cd depends on your dvd-drive.. samsung boots few cd's but thompson and phillips drive doenst boot any cd's.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 04, 2006, 08:21:00 AM
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you mean turning the xbox with power button and its booting directly to dvd/cd.. it could be. you can change the option with runtime config option.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: quickline on September 05, 2006, 09:06:00 PM
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Hello all,
I tired ndure and I am amazed! One thing though.. I am attempting to install a 250gb hard drive. How do I make it so "F gets all, no G"?
Quite urgent, help is appreciated.
Thanks
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on September 05, 2006, 09:12:00 PM
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use nkpatcher .06 and using xbpartition ( a xbox program) format F drive with 32k clusters.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: quickline on September 05, 2006, 09:22:00 PM
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I have an X3 in there (using solderless adapter) temporarily. Can I just format the hard drive using that? ... or even evox?
Another question.. I have a 1.6, will I suffer any losses because of this?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: violent crayon on October 06, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
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i am trying to update my bios so i used ndure for PC and it works ok, it just sees my F partition as blank and doesnt see my G partition at all. i dont want to format because of all the stuff i had on them (its a 300gb hd).
i have the partitions enabled in the config.xml and I used the .67 nkpatcher, any ideas why it's not seeing the G part and the F appears blank?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: adidasflyguy on November 12, 2006, 06:13:00 AM
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upgrading dash... using ndure for pc 3.0
Is there anything special I need to do? I tried just replacing e:\dash\default.xbe with xbmc but when i boot up the xbox it start and a second later restarts, waits, restarts, waits, restarts....
Let me know, thanks!
-Paul
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: adidasflyguy on November 12, 2006, 09:14:00 AM
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got it, i had some bad config.
now i'm trying to figure out when i boot by pressing the eject button the default ms dash doesn't seem to be comming up, after the logo screen it's just black
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Oen386 on November 15, 2006, 04:39:00 PM
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Everytime is use Ndure I get folders that are like 350+megs in size. When I connect (via FTP) to my Xbox I only have like 330 megs of room at best when the C drive is clear.
What am I doing wrong?
When I do just the base files, and don't transfer ShadowC, the Xbox appears to boot, but just goes to a black screen and sits.
Lastly the light is Orange.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 17, 2006, 09:20:00 PM
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did you copy the files corrcetly ( earnie.xtf before xbox.xtf).. there might be some extra files in C drive.. Make sure your C is retail first.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 21, 2006, 10:22:00 AM
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is there any reason you cant ftp.. you can backup teh eeprom with evox.. You could take out the eeprom by hotswapping and copying the eeprom with xplorer 360.. buts its 100 times easier if you ftp.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 25, 2006, 08:52:00 AM
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search google..but xbins is the easiest method.. no links cant be given.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Oen386 on November 29, 2006, 03:22:00 PM
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Interesting.. this time it comes up with the Xbox Live Account Management screen.
Where I can setup my account or network.
... not sure if this is a sign it worked, or nothing happened. LOL
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on November 29, 2006, 06:01:00 PM
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Where did you copy the dash?..if you can boot burned disks ( games/ boot cd's).., Boot a boot cd and make sure there is a dash in E:\dash\ folder.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Deathinatesttube on December 05, 2006, 04:33:00 AM
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Hi dudes well I'm new to the forums and well i want to mod my Xbox, Now I want to install Ndure Softmod Through Xboxhdm on it but I can not find NDURE 3.0. I have been on xbin.org it is not there it just redirects here the link on here is wrong also, also that xboxhelp.tk site that is linked here too so did many google searches, so it must be available if it is kept on being liked to this post. I have downloaded Krayzie Ndure Pack but there is no .exe in it so i have been searching the internet for about 5 hours trying to find it, so if any one could message me on how to find it and point me in the right direction it would be most appreciated.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 05, 2006, 05:57:00 AM
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the package is on xbins ftp server:
/XBOX/Console Based Applications/exploits/_Packages/Kingroachs Installer
go to xbox-scene.com ( main page) and check the tutorial section on how to connect to xbins.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 09, 2006, 06:39:00 PM
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does doing a IGR ( LT+RT+back+start) does anything when you hit the orange led?.. if not then th eunleashx default.xbe can be corrupt..I think somewhere in this thread, someone had this problem. He made a new cd with fresh install files and it worked fine after softmodding with the new cd.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 09, 2007, 07:51:00 PM
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change the first option to GREEN. Run the file make_runtime.bat (first delete nkp_config.bin file). This will createa new config file. Just drop the file in E:\ drive. Or you can compile a new bios by changing config file and replacing the bios file in C:\bios\ folder. ( to see real C, you need to run E:\ndts\default.xbe file)..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: wilho on January 13, 2007, 03:29:00 AM
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Has there been any instability problems after this modding method? It just hangs, some things work fine, and others don't. Couple of games seems run fine, but one game which works on other xbox just hangs this box after couple of seconds from starting. It dies on opening shoutcast stream or while playing videos too. I'm a bit clueless atm. I've done three boxes with ndure installer. All of them work fine, except this one. Only difference with the one is that we changed hard drive to bigger one, 250GB if I recall.
What bios is included in ndure installer? Is it changeable? Should it work fine with larger HD's? Is there other things which could cause instalbility?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 13, 2007, 07:23:00 AM
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format X/Y/Z drives and delete everything from E:\cache\ folder..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: LegendaryXM90 on January 14, 2007, 11:38:00 AM
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Ok, I need a question answered. Does this involve opening your Xbox or computer AT ALL, because you mentioned nothing about either of those two and said a lot about burning CD's.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: xman954 on January 14, 2007, 12:15:00 PM
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use a gamesave installer.......
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: xman954 on January 14, 2007, 12:26:00 PM
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download the latets nkpatcher from here:
http://www.esnips.co...11_U03_vga10_KB
extarct it, you will find a file called config_runtime. Open the file with notepad. Look at this section:
change the first option to GREEN. Run the file make_runtime.bat (first delete nkp_config.bin file). This will createa new config file. Just drop the file in E:\ drive. Or you can compile a new bios by changing config file and replacing the bios file in C:\bios\ folder. ( to see real C, you need to run E:\ndts\default.xbe file)..
no need to delete nkp_config.bin (it's overwritten)
in this version (VGA10) the file need to be in E:\NKP11\ (look at the read me)
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 15, 2007, 12:54:00 PM
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Look at the xboxhdm for dummies link in my sig. It has picture explaining how to connect xbox hard drive to computer. Opening xbox is easy.. just open the 6 screwes that are in the back. go to xbox-scene.com and in the tutorial section, theres tutorial on how to open xbox.
you cant download splinter cell that works for softmod.. you have to buy one if you want to do gamesave exploit.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Januse on March 06, 2007, 01:57:00 AM
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Hello
i want to ask some question. I tray intstall softmod with ndure installer for pc ower hboxhdm. I create backup but i dont make a copy to cd. And now after all instalion i have this:
i boot xbox unleashx, ftp in and in backup directory E\backup i can't find eeprom.bin file.
I try get this file with ConfigMagic but this program don't want to work. Maybe it's problem in virtual c and virtual eeprom:(
So, it is any posibility to get eeprom without one time more hotswap?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: wellmodded on May 09, 2007, 08:50:00 PM
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ok i a noob just wondering do have to have an already softmodded box to do this or u can just use a stock xbox with stock hd
i have exprience using XBOXHDM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: wellmodded on May 10, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
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just one other think the FTP part don't yr xbox have to be softmodded so uc an FTP info back and fort between
if not can soem point me the direction to a tut that can tel u how u ftp between computer and xbox that has stock msdash and everythink
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on May 10, 2007, 07:13:00 AM
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you need a already modded xbox for ftp transfer..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: wellmodded on May 12, 2007, 09:31:00 AM
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can i use xboxhdm with ndure 3.0 so i can make the softmoded HD or i have to use ndure 2.4
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: wellmodded on May 12, 2007, 05:23:00 PM
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lol i figure out u can use 3.0 with xboxhdm srry for teh post above there but just one think can some tell me wht
this option is nudre is
default boot xonlinedash console ??
does that mean the xbox OEM dash board boots 1st
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JoeUser38 on June 11, 2007, 02:36:00 AM
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OK, I have a soft-modded xbox with a stock HDD in it (honestly not sure which exploit I used last... MA gamesave, though, think it may have been Krazies 1.1.1)... have a 500GB WD (yes, it is IDE) coming in the next few days to put in. I already have a copy of EEPROM.BIN from the Xbox. I have no access to a chipped Xbox.
I plan on using Xboxhdm 1.9 with Ndure 3.0 on the 500GB. Can anyone tell me what problems I might encounter (hopefully with solutions)? I understand I'll need to format any partition larger than 137GB with 32K blocks, and Xboxhdm does not do this? Or has this since been fixed? Will I need to create the partition in Xboxhdm and then do the formatting with a program on the Xbox (which would you recommend... I have various install disks that I believe have partitioning and formatting tools, and of course there's "the usual places")?
Also, what is the best partitioning scheme? Not sure what the largest partition size allowed with LBA48 on the Xbox, and most threads I've been finding are very outdated... Will I need to create both a F: and a G: partition, and even if I don't, is there an advantage to doing it that way? Would there be any advantage to making E: larger also (say for the cache directory), or would M$ send the cops after me if I did so?
Oh, and I think I already know the answer to this, but would you recommend me replacing the NKPatcher in the NDURE 3.0 with NKPatcher v11-U04 (I think that is the latest)?
Thanks in advance!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 11, 2007, 07:34:00 AM
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First you should just create a basic harddrive.. when xboxhdm asks you to format F drive, type no. After you boot to unleashx on new harddrive, first backup everything from E drive to your computer.. Format the E drive using unleashx and copy back the contents of E drive ( you will still have ftp access).. This is because xboxhdm sometimes corrupts E drive creation and you will get problems saving games.
Then install xbpartitioner and using 32K clustter format 247GB F drive and 245GB G drive.. You can also all 500GB F drive but chances are it will get corrrupt at the end.
If you can you can install the nkpatcher 11_U04.. Rename the nkpatcher file you compile to bios.xbe and copy that to C:\bios\ folder..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JoeUser38 on June 11, 2007, 12:36:00 PM
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First you should just create a basic harddrive.. when xboxhdm asks you to format F drive, type no. After you boot to unleashx on new harddrive, first backup everything from E drive to your computer.. Format the E drive using unleashx and copy back the contents of E drive ( you will still have ftp access).. This is because xboxhdm sometimes corrupts E drive creation and you will get problems saving games.
Then install xbpartitioner and using 32K clustter format 247GB F drive and 245GB G drive.. You can also all 500GB F drive but chances are it will get corrrupt at the end.
If you can you can install the nkpatcher 11_U04.. Rename the nkpatcher file you compile to bios.xbe and copy that to C:\bios\ folder..
Thank you! Exactly the kind of information I needed, especially the reformatting of drive E:. And it sounds like I'll definitely want to create F: and G: drives to be safe. So other than what you've mentioned, follow the "standard" instructions for your NDURE installer?
BTW, any plans for an NDURE 3.1 with the "latest and greatest" NKPatcher? And is NKPatcher still "the way to go" as far as soft-mods are concerned, or is there a better route to go now?
Oh, a suggestion: Any chance of updating your Xboxhdm tutorials with the information needed for todays larger hard disks? Or did you, and I just missed it?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 11, 2007, 07:54:00 PM
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Just select nkpatcher .67 in the nkpatcher options..I am working on the nkpatcher .67.. work is about 85% done..
xboxhdm guide hasnt been updated in ages.. so you didnt miss anything.. I will probably update the guides when I submit ndure 3.1 in xbins..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JoeUser38 on June 15, 2007, 07:15:00 AM
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First you should just create a basic harddrive.. when xboxhdm asks you to format F drive, type no. After you boot to unleashx on new harddrive, first backup everything from E drive to your computer.. Format the E drive using unleashx and copy back the contents of E drive ( you will still have ftp access).. This is because xboxhdm sometimes corrupts E drive creation and you will get problems saving games.
Then install xbpartitioner and using 32K clustter format 247GB F drive and 245GB G drive.. You can also all 500GB F drive but chances are it will get corrrupt at the end.
If you can you can install the nkpatcher 11_U04.. Rename the nkpatcher file you compile to bios.xbe and copy that to C:\bios\ folder..
OK, I got the drive up and running in the Xbox... however, I just noticed you said to use 32K clusters. When I used XBPartitioner I kept hitting "A" until it showed me the F: and G: partitions split evenly, and I formatted with that. However, I believe I saw it say it was using 16K clusters. From what I've been reading, XBPartitioner only auto-selects 32K clusters on >250GB or so partitions? And the information I've been reading online has been contradictory on whether or not you need 32K clusters above 256GB, or if it's needed above 512GB... So, am I going to get corruption on these partitions if I don't reformat with 32K clusters or not?
BTW, instead of FTPing the E: drive to my computer, re-formatting E:, and FTPing back, I copied E: to F:, formatted E:, and copied back from F:. Figured it'd be faster. I did this from the AID Deluxe 4.01 disk (it has XBPartitioner on it, too).
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JoeUser38 on June 15, 2007, 08:05:00 AM
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... And the information I've been reading online has been contradictory on whether or not you need 32K clusters above 256GB, or if it's needed above 512GB... So, am I going to get corruption on these partitions if I don't reformat with 32K clusters or not?
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Sorry, wouldn't let me edit. Meant to say I've been reading contradictory info on if 32K clusters are needed above 137GB, or above 256GB.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 16, 2007, 06:50:00 AM
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if your partition is over 250+ GB then its better to have 32K clusters.. but under 250Gb it doesnt make much difference..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: JoeUser38 on June 16, 2007, 11:30:00 AM
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if your partition is over 250+ GB then its better to have 32K clusters.. but under 250Gb it doesnt make much difference..
Good news. Both are just under 250GB. With 16K clusters, I'll lose less space in the slack area of the files, so I prefer it that way anyways.
BTW, with nkpatcher, which options are overiden when setting "KINGROACH_NDURE" (or whatever the define was... not on the computer, typing on my phone)?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on June 16, 2007, 02:50:00 PM
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it overrides the booting xboxdash with eject.. it doesnt take away any features.. along with normal booting of msdash, it will enable you boot xbox live dash if you want..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Contillion on August 14, 2007, 07:36:00 PM
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First of all, thanks for the Ndure installer. My X2L was acting up (stupid pogo pins) and your installer really made it easy to switch over to a softmod.
I patched my C drive using the BASIC setting, which works as advertised. I would like to change my install to RETAIL since I need to access the Xbox Dashboard to change my system settings (need to enable 5.1). What do I need to do in order to do that? Reason I ask is because I ran the installer again on a backup of my original C drive except this time used the RETAIL profile. When I tried to upload those files over to the C drive on my Xbox, it wouldn't let me copy over some of the files like shadowc.img, the xboxdashdata folder, and a couple others.
Am I doing this right? I noticed that there is now an H drive that has pretty much everything that I copied over to the C drive when I originally did the patch - would I need to update those files?
BTW - is UnleashX required for a softmod, or could I change the dash to EvolutionX or XBMC? Would I just need to update e/dash/ with the appropriate files?
Thank you
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 15, 2007, 05:45:00 AM
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if you copied shadowc.img file in your first softmod attemt then you have shadowc enabled.. you dont need to change the softmod to get ms dashboard.. you can just copy fresh C drive ( from slayers etc) to the shadowc drive and run msdash from there.
you can use any dash you want... just replace files under E:\dash\ folder.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Contillion on August 15, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
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if you copied shadowc.img file in your first softmod attemt then you have shadowc enabled.. you dont need to change the softmod to get ms dashboard.. you can just copy fresh C drive ( from slayers etc) to the shadowc drive and run msdash from there.
you can use any dash you want... just replace files under E:\dash\ folder.
How do I get to the shadowc drive? When I FTP into my box, is the C drive that I see there the shadowc drive, because I see nothing there in that drive?
If so, I would just need to extract the fresh C drive from the Slayers disk, which includes these files:
[Audio]
[fonts]
[xboxdashdata.185ead00]
[xodash]
Xbox Book.xtf
Xbox.xtf
xboxdash.xbe
and FTP them over to that C drive? Sorry if this seems elementary, but I'm new to the softmod world, so I'm not terribly familiar with the vernacular.
Thanks again.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 15, 2007, 06:37:00 PM
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yes.. if you see nothing in C drive after you ftp then thats the shadowc.. just upload the files you mentioned..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Contillion on August 15, 2007, 09:14:00 PM
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Worked like a charm - thanks kingroach
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Contillion on August 19, 2007, 07:53:00 PM
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One more issue - when I enter into MS Dash to change my audio settings (from STEREO to SURROUND), it appears that they do not get saved after a reboot. Searching the forums, one said that I needed to add a backup eeprom.bin to my shadow c drive. Before I ran the Ndure installer, I backed up an eeprom.bin file. I went ahead and ftp'ed that to the C drive, so now my C looks like this:
[Audio]
[fonts]
[xboxdashdata.185ead00]
[xodash]
eeprom.bin
Xbox Book.xtf
Xbox.xtf
xboxdash.xbe
I went back into MS Dash, changed the settings and rebooted, but they did not keep. Any ideas how to resolve this?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on August 20, 2007, 07:33:00 AM
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run E:\ndts\default.xbe.. this will expose the real C drive.. copy th eeeprom in C:\shadowc\ folder.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Contillion on August 22, 2007, 11:43:00 PM
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That did it. Thanks again!!!!!!!!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 01, 2007, 08:41:00 PM
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first of all: thank you very much for this installer! really awesome work ;-)
I used to work with Softmod Installer Deluxe 5.01 and Auto Installer Deluxe 4.12,
but since playing ISO games from hdd was not possible with that software I switched to Kingroachs Ndure Installer,
but I have some questions - comments:
first of all an annoying bug:
- when freshly ftp'ed, network is set to DHCP, so when I change it to Static and configure ip to 192.168.0.2 & reboot, the ip is after reboot 192.168.0.100... so have to adjust it again, and reboot again!? quite frustrating...
- in the standard UnleashX dash the fan is very loud, even louder than 20%, so I check and put treshold to 45C and fan speed is set to 1x, but still remains that loud?!
- as I read in this thread it's normal that files of C are not visible when Retail is chosen, why's that?
in SID5.01 & dual boot (MS dash and EvoX/XBMC) it's also with shadowc.img, but the C files remain visible (I think only those softmod files like shadowc.img etc. are invisible), cause this makes the menu entry MS Dash useless (since XBox says then can't find necessary files...),
- I went from my old softmod to Ndure like this: made the patched C and E files with installer, deleted my C and E files, ftp'ed them (didn't work at first, files could not be transferred, so I used Restore C with files in E:backup),
but my question now is, do I have to install Ndure Retail also in install menu of UnleashX (E:ndts/default.xbe)? and what does activate Ndure do (necessary?)? and what about nkpatcher settings: 'use nkpatcher.67 w...' ? also for nkpatcher.67 there are 2 entries: they both end with 'w'... so I don't know what the difference is between them?
I used AID4.12 to format my hdd, does that go in conflict with this Ndure softmod?
any info/help very much appreciated,
thanks in advance ,
Kind regards!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 01, 2007, 08:59:00 PM
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ok I think I understand about MS dash now:
I just have to install the unmodified C files on the shadowC invisible C (therefore appearing empty drive)?
so I've first ftp'ed the C and E files made by the Ndure installer, then when in softmod dash C shows no files (invisible because of shadowC), I ftp the standard unmodified C files so I can use MS dash too? correct?
derived that from this post, if I understand it correctly: http://forums.xbox-s...p;#entry3346273
and running nkpatcher.67 is to enable G drive (6=F, 7=G), do I have to re-format it after that? can I use AID4.12 for that?
still don't know what the difference between those 2 'use nkpatcher.67 w...' entries are... anyone?
and please check if you know the answers to my previous questions in earlier reply...
thanks!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 01, 2007, 11:16:00 PM
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what I was also wondering:
in AID there's an option to 'Unmount Virtual C' after which you can uninstall its softmod,
but when I want a fresh install of a softmod I just format C and D,
in that case everything's gone right, so no need to 'Unmount Virtual C' first?
a format wipes everything clean, right?
the fact that the fan runs louder now (in UnleashX dash and everywhere else outside XBMC (in XBMC I configured it to just keep it at max. 45C, so it's silent there), is that because of the UnleashX dash (and its settings?), if it can't be changed I'm definitely going to change it to EvoX or XBMC dash...
thanks,
Regards
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 02, 2007, 08:33:00 AM
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Thats correct. C drive files are not visible because shadowc is activated. Normally the installer copies the original C drive files in in shadowc ( if you are using the xboxhdm installer). Otherwise, you need to copy the C drive files to shadowc ( the empty C after softmod is installed).
you shouldnt need to format the drives again if you choose nkpatcher .67. As you said .67 is for F and G drive and .06 is for F drive only.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 02, 2007, 10:01:00 AM
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but what about those 2 entries in ntsp/default nkpatcher.67 menu, what's the difference between those two (since the titles are both only till 'w...')?
much appreciated, awesome...
now I can play certain backups from ISO on hdd which don't work in file-mode,
so my dvd-drive can safe it's energy & hopefully will last longer
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 02, 2007, 10:30:00 AM
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I've put the fan.bin file from the 20 folder (so at 20%, which was standard with my previous softmod), didn't change anything,
so I went into System Settings and went from 1x to 1,5x and after saving it went silent?!
looks like it does not respond if set to 1x (if I set it to 4x or so, then go to 1x, nothing happens,
if I go to 1,5x it goes more silent, but I wouldn't go lower than 1,5x, so it's fine now)
one more inconsistency: in the File Explorer of the UnleashX menu of E:/ndts/default.xbe I don't have G partition, and if I load XBMC from there, also no G?!
(tried installing nkpatcher.67)(in UnleashX dash of E:/dash/default.xbe I have the G drive (also visible in XBMC if loaded from there)
is that normal?
thanks,
take care &
Regards!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 03, 2007, 08:02:00 PM
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I've tried the Format menu in Toolset (E:ndts/default.xbe),
when I tried to format G, nothing happened (I think...),
G was still not seen in File Explorer of the Toolset UnleashX menu,
then I formated the F drive... now it's 186thousand MB big... (it's a 200gb drive),
but it should have stayed a max. 120gb partition with rest to G (nkpatcher.67)...
when I check outside toolbox, like in XBMC, the F is empty but still under 120gb
and the G is the rest, untouched by the formatting in the Toolset menu...
this can't be healthy?
the NKP11 folder is empty (except for the fan.big file that I've put in it)?
is that normal?
(when I install nkpatcher.67 in menu of Toolset, it goes like super fast, can't see what it copies...)
I've installed Kingroach's Ndure 3.1 Retail, with Kernel selected,
and dual boot (retail ms dash with eject)
anyone?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Movax on December 03, 2007, 08:18:00 PM
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I don't understand why you would want to split a 200gb drive over F+G, but an easy way wold be to use xbpartitioner. nkpatcher will read the partition table and run with whatever you setup in xbpartitioner.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 04, 2007, 01:14:00 AM
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true, might be more convenient to just go without G, cause now I have around 120gb on F and 60gb on G,
but I thought it's always better to not go over 120gb...
so for 180gb partition are standard clusters ok? or should I use 32kb clusters?
never used XBpartitioner, loaded it once, but looked too complicated and haven't looked into it yet...
what is the de-activation and activation of Ndure in Toolset for? to disable and enable the softmod?!
if I choose activate I get error 'Batch process failed... rename' or something?
I'm very thankful for the unleash dash that's standard in Ndure!
updated it to v0.39, it's menu outlay isn't as practical as EvoX, and it sure has some bugs I think (with fan settings & when u change IP), but I get network speeds of over 11mb/sec (mostly around 10,5mb/s)!
while EvoX and XBMC are mostly around 8,5 or 9mb/s...
is that because of the 'boost' feature of UnleashX ?
can the Ndure-3.1 installation (Kingroach) by ftp be done without losing files on F and G?
(xboxhdm does not work with my pc, after it boots it can't find dvd-drive, like in this thread: http://forums.xbox-s...;#entry4164484)
because after I installed it F and G were empty, and I don't remember formatting those?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 04, 2007, 06:58:00 AM
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you can do it by fto.. just make sure you read the ftp uploading instructions in the .pdf files. If you used F+G drive with previous mod, its unlikely that with Ndure 3/1's .67 bios wont work. If you tell me what version of nkpatcher your old softmod was using then maybe I can compile that version of nkpatcher with the ndure settings in it..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 04, 2007, 05:14:00 PM
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the F and G partition did work fine in dashboard,
but not in the 'Toolset' menu (E:ndts/default.xbe), there only 1 big F partition and no G?!
can you just confirm that I'm doing everything right (this is for v1.0 with kernel 4034 & 200gb hdd):
1st - I put the C folder (with standard MS files of a XBox from 2005) in the Ndure folder,
2nd - I start Ndure-3.1.exe in which I select Retail with options: nkpatcher.06 (for hdd till 200gb) & my Kernel,
3rd - I ftp the by Ndure modified C and newly created E to freshly formatted C & E of the XBox,
4th - reboot and copy the standard unmodified MS C partition files (of an 2005 XBox) to the C (that appears to be empty because shadowC.img and the true C is only visible from inside the UnleashX Toolset in ndts)
then I format the F drive (with the menu of UnleashX),
et voila, softmod installed and everything running
(I don't need to install or apply anything from inside the 'Toolset' UnleashX (E:ndts) menu?)
but I did replace the UnleashX dash that Ndure uses in E:dash, since it's v0.38,
and the UnleashX dashboard I copied from Auto Installer Deluxe is v0.39...
is there a way to update the one of the Toolset too (in E:ndts)? which files may be replaced to do so?
I'm going to switch to Ndure with my v1.6 Crystal 250gb Xbox too, only changes for that are different Kernel and I will not select nkpatcher.06 in Ndure setup, since I want 2x 120gb for F and G,
so am I doing everything right or am I missing something?
(from what I understand the NKP11 folder is empty and can be used to put in configuration files, does anyone have any of those? (I've got only fan.bin, but don't have the feeling it does anything at all...)
thanks,
Regards!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on December 04, 2007, 06:50:00 PM
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you shouldnt need to worry about Ndure toolset since you wont use it for day to day use.. its mainly for doing small configurations within softmod and it only touches C and E drive.. to update you need to change the unleashx.xbe with new unleashx dashboard default.xbe. But changing that files wont make the G drive appear since it uses different kind of bios ( PBL).. You can format any drives within normal unleashx dash. You can also change the dash by replacing contents of E:\dash\ folder with your favorite one.
you might want to look at :
http://www.esnips.com/web/kingroach/
and download the npatcher used with ndure 3.1. It includes the original source files and documentation for producing config bin files. You can also compile your own bios with hardcoded fan speed.. But seems like unleashx overwrites the fan speed settings..
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 04, 2007, 08:59:00 PM
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thanks, yup, you're right
only trouble left is indeed the fan speed in UnleashX,
played around with it, and if I select 1.00, then it's speed is actually 3.0 ...
so can't go slower then 1.50... which is still pretty loud on my Crystal v1.6 Xbox...
am I the only one experiencing that?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 05, 2007, 02:50:00 AM
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I can answer that last one myself:
just changed 3rd Xbox to Ndure-3.1 with UnleashX v0.39,
it's also a v1.0 kernel 4034 Xbox,
and for this one the setting 1.0x works!
strange though, because it's one I fixed:
it had bad trace corrosion (it powered on when powerplug connected,
eject & power button did not function normal and only red light), which I was able to fix...
now it turns out it functions better than the other v1.0 and the v1.6 Crystal... nice
anyone a clue?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 05, 2007, 01:04:00 PM
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big problem:
friend of mine wanted XBMC dash to boot,
so I copied all files of XBMC to E:/dash,
but now it doesnt boot anything, not MS dash with tray open,
just stays black,
only loads original games...............
help!!!
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 05, 2007, 01:34:00 PM
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I even tried to install MS dash by trying to go to Xbox Live in a game...
but it gives an error, fails little bit over halfway...
it's a v1.2 Xbox from 2003,
but the kernel in the eeprom backup menu showed 5838,
which I selected to make the C and E files wit Ndure-3.1,
but isn't 5838 the newest kernel, can this older Xbox have that new kernel?
maybe it's the wrong kernel (I've heared that using the wrong kernel can cause not to boot...)
is it maybe because only the shadowC was installed,
normally after first boot I ftp the retail MS Dash files to the "empty" C (the shadowC),
does the XBMC dash not support that in any way?
or is it because there's no config file in root or E:/dash ?
(just the XBMC folders and its default.xbe in E:/dash)
it doesn't load AID dvd, only original games...
and the dual boot does not work, can't get into MS dash with open tray to put the savegames for exploit on.............
I've backup the eeprom etc to my pc,
please don't tell me I need to take out the hard drive...
what's the easiest way to fix this???
what if I were to clone the C and E partition with Chimp?
(of working v1.0 kernel 4034 or v1.6 kernel 5838 Xbox?)
but will that corrupt the F and G partition?
because it's a 160gb hard drive and may not loose files on F and G...
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: GregToR on December 05, 2007, 04:02:00 PM
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can't seem to edit or delete my previous posts...
fixed it:
my Crystal Xbox hasn't got his screws in it,
so throwed it open,
booted into a menu with broken xbox,
booted in avalanche toolset with crystal xbox,
took out ide of hdd from broken one and put in the ide cable of crystal xbox (hotswap),
booted AID disc from there, re-installed softmod...
... et voila, softmod runs fine now and no data lost on F or G,
few... but sweeeeet
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I think I might know what the problem was:
if I check now in XBMC, the kernel is 5101 !
while in the eeprom backup utility it was 5838 !?
is that the cause, or did I have to do something more to be able booting XBMC dash?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: dOoBiX on December 10, 2007, 05:39:00 PM
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After I did that, my 200gb F: drive (with 60gb of free space) turned into a 4gb blank drive. How do I make it so that I can see my whole F: drive again? I know all my data is still there because I can see it again when I replace the new bios.xbe with my original backed up bios.xbe.
EDIT: Nevermind, I should have read the entire config.inc before posting my question.
I just had to change the bios from .67 to .06 by editing:
%define PARTITION_METHOD 2 to %define PARTITION_METHOD 1
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: silvertyrant on December 25, 2007, 01:59:00 AM
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xbins isnt working for me i cant get ndure 3.1 any help would be appreciated [email protected] and my aim is o0SilverOo im always on
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: cr0nick on August 09, 2008, 09:13:00 PM
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xbins isnt working for me i cant get ndure 3.1 any help would be appreciated [email protected] and my aim is o0SilverOo im always on
Same problem, anyone know when the FTP will be back up?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: slam007 on January 16, 2009, 02:15:00 AM
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Greetings,
I'm planning to softmod my virgin Xbox to convert it into a media center using Xbmc. I have been reading numerous post about the best way of doing it and decided to go for the Ndure 3.1 PC installer using the XboxHdm installer and hotswap method.
After following the instructions in the manual I now have a xboxhdm\linux\ndure directory with the ndure.htm script file.
I have two questions on which I need a answer before doing the actual softmod
Can anybody help me?
Thanks.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: kingroach on January 16, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
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yes.. you should use the script that came with the 3.1 installer. Its highly recommended that you update the dashboard to latest (5960) . The files are designed to fit 5960 dashboard and will give you error if try to install over old dashboard.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: slam007 on January 17, 2009, 01:31:00 PM
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Thanks for the fast reply kingroach.
I just update my dashboard to 5960 by connecting to Xbox Live. This means that I'm ready to do some hotswapping!
Which me luck .
I just finished my first Xbox softmod with success!
I can recommend this software (Ndure 3.1 & Xboxhdm) to everybody. If you follow the instructions it should work without any problems.
I have one more question about backup. How can I backup the original xbox files and the eeprom?
Thanks.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: obcd on January 18, 2009, 08:18:00 AM
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the ndts folder on the E partition (run default.xbe from it) has an option to backup the xbox eeprom. After that, you can ftp the eeprom.bin file (256bytes) and the other files (unmodded M$dash) to your pc.
regards.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: slam007 on January 21, 2009, 01:04:00 PM
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the ndts folder on the E partition (run default.xbe from it) has an option to backup the xbox eeprom. After that, you can ftp the eeprom.bin file (256bytes) and the other files (unmodded M$dash) to your pc.
regards.
OBCD thanks for the answer.
I managed to create a backup of the eeprom using the Ndure toolset by following your instructions and found the eeprom.bin (1KB) on E:\NKP11. Next I made a backup of the entire C and E drives using FTP server from the Ndure toolset.
Should I be worried about the filesize of the eeprom.bin?
Regards,
Slam007.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: obcd on January 21, 2009, 03:23:00 PM
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Are you sure 1K is not the size it takes on the disk?
There exist a windows program for pc called liveinfo beta 3. You can load the eeprom.bin in that program, and it will show you all the relevant information of it. You can compare the serial number with the number on the sticker on the bottom of your xbox. If those matches, things should be fine.
regards.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: slam007 on January 22, 2009, 01:46:00 AM
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Are you sure 1K is not the size it takes on the disk?
There exist a windows program for pc called liveinfo beta 3. You can load the eeprom.bin in that program, and it will show you all the relevant information of it. You can compare the serial number with the number on the sticker on the bottom of your xbox. If those matches, things should be fine.
regards.
OBCD,
It was indeed a PEBCAC problem (problem exists between chair and computer). The actual size is 256 bytes.
I'm all set now.
I would like to thank all people who helped me out on this very responsive forum.
You guys are amazing.
Thanks for letting me resurrect my XBOX
Slam007
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Carvo on February 09, 2010, 03:46:00 PM
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kingroach
I have an xbox modded with NDure 3.0 with the double boot option and UDDAE.
With power button, XBMC gets booted. When I UDDAE, I would like to boot into unleashX instead of XBL.
How can this be accomplished ?
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: steveo1978 on February 09, 2010, 04:35:00 PM
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there is a folder on the E:\ I think its called NTSF or something like that look in that folder and run the .xbe that will let you change some options for that solfmod I am not sure if it will let you boot unleashx and XBMC but it will let you change a bunch of stuff. Be careful in that folder cause the you can mess some stuff up if you dont watch what you are doing
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ldotsfan on February 10, 2010, 07:09:00 AM
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With power button, XBMC gets booted. When I UDDAE, I would like to boot into unleashX instead of XBL.
How can this be accomplished ?
http://forums.xbox-s...&...t&p=3066313 for the generic st.db.
ST.DB should be copied to E:\TDATA\fffe0000\music folder.
xbe should be habibi signed. Google for nkpatcher11_u04 for nasm and xbedump if you don't have them.
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ldotsfan on February 10, 2010, 07:44:00 AM
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Reconstructed from http://forums.xbox-s...&...t&p=2960681
and http://forums.xbox-s...&...t&p=2973832
;;;
;;; Compile: nasm -o ST.DB stdb.asm
;;;
BITS 32
stdbmemofs equ 1498BCh ; < fixed by 4920 dash
D5960_offset equ 00001B000h ; eggsBox
mem_offset equ 0D004B694h - D5960_offset ;
bin_start:
.HEAD0 dd 'BUFF'
.HEAD1 dd (mem_offset-1498C8h)/4
.HEAD2 dd .start-.HEAD0+stdbmemofs
;;;
;;; Summary:
;;; 1) Remove the subdirectory 1498c8 (HEAD2) that Dashboard created.
;;; 2) Rewrite ST.DB to disk (because Dashboard gobbles it.)
;;; 3) Change the MS public key in kernel to habibi-key.
;;; 4) Load and run a habibi-signed XBE.
;;;
.start:
call .base
.base: pop ebp
jmp short .continuecode
;----------------
.xbestring db 'default.xbe',0; To modify
.trnumstr db 'T:\music\1498c8',0
.trnum dw $-.trnumstr-1, $-.trnumstr-1
.ptrnumstr dd .trnumstr-.HEAD0+stdbmemofs
.tmusicstdb dw 14, 14
dd 17E10h; "T:\MUSIC\ST.DB"
.dispose db 1
;----------------
.continuecode:
; jmp short $; make it hang <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
dec dword [ebp+.HEAD1-.base]
dec dword [ebp+.HEAD2-.base]
push dword [ebp+.HEAD0-.base-4]
call dword [12034h]; NtClose
push byte 26
pop ecx
xor eax,eax
mov edi,stdbmemofs+416
rep stosd
inc eax
stosd
mov dword [edi-12],21371h
push eax
mov ebx,esp; File handle
push eax
push eax
mov esi,esp; IO status
lea eax,[ebp+.trnum-.base]
push byte 40h
push eax
push byte -3
mov edi,esp; Object attributes
push byte 1
push byte 4
push esi
push edi
push dword 10000h
push ebx
call dword [12040h]; NtOpenFile
push byte 13; 13 = FileDispositionInformation
push byte 1
lea eax,[ebp+.dispose-.base]
push eax
push esi
push dword [ebx]
call dword [120A0h]; NtSetInformationFile
push dword [ebx]
call dword [12034h]; NtClose
lea eax,[ebp+.tmusicstdb-.base]
mov [edi+4],eax
push byte 22h
push byte 3
push esi
push edi
push dword 40100000h
push ebx
call dword [12040h]; NtOpenFile
mov eax,512+12
lea edx,[ebp+.HEAD0-.base]
call .write
push byte 101
pop ecx
mov eax,512-12
.wl: push ecx
mov edx,10D70h; zeroes at 0x10D70
call .write
mov eax,512
pop ecx
loop .wl
push dword [ebx]
mov esi,dword [12034h]; NtClose
call esi
; add esp,byte 12+8+4
.patchpublickey:
mov ebx,dword [121A8h]; XePublicKeyData
test ebx,ebx
jz short .badexport
cmp dword [ebx],31415352h
jne short .badexport
cmp dword [ebx+10h],10001h
je short .keyfound
.badexport:
and si,0F000h
.findkernel:
mov ax,[esi]
cmp ax,'ZM'
je short .check
cmp ax,'MZ'
je short .check
.retry: sub esi,1000h
jmp short .findkernel
.check:
mov eax,[esi+3Ch]
cmp eax,0FFFh
ja short .retry
cmp dword [esi+eax],'PE'
jne short .retry
mov ebx,esi
.searchkey:
inc ebx
cmp dword [ebx],31415352h
jne short .searchkey
cmp dword [ebx+10h],10001h
jne short .searchkey
.keyfound:
.searchkeyend:
inc ebx
cmp dword [ebx],0A44B1BBDh
jne short .searchkeyend
cli
mov ecx,cr0
push ecx
and ecx,0FFFEFFFFh
mov cr0,ecx
xor dword [ebx],2DD78BD6h
pop ecx
mov cr0,ecx
sti
.loadrunxbe:
push byte 0
push esp
push byte 0
push byte 2
push 127C8h; "\Device\Harddisk0\partition1" to modify?
lea eax,[ebp+.xbestring-.base]
push eax
mov esi,555A9h
call esi
.inf: jmp short .inf
;------------------------
.write:
xor ecx,ecx
push ecx
push eax
push edx
push esi
push ecx
push ecx
push ecx
push dword [ebx]
call dword [120D8h]; NtWriteFile
ret
;
%if $-.HEAD0 > 416
%error 416 bytes maximum!
%endif
times 512-$+.HEAD0 db 0
dd 21371h, 0, 1; An empty no-name track (for HD to HD copy)
times 52224-$+bin_start.HEAD0 db 0
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ldotsfan on February 10, 2010, 08:04:00 AM
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Uudecoded xman954's st.db for future reference:
;;;
;;; Compile example: nasm -o ST.DB stdb.asm
;;;
BITS 32
NtOpenFile equ 12040h
NtWriteFile equ 120D8h
NtClose equ 12034h
NtSetInformationFile equ 120A0h
XePublicKeyData equ 121A8h
LaunchDataPage equ 12004h
MmAllocateContiguousMemory equ 1213Ch
MmPersistContiguousMemory equ 12138h
HalReturnToFirmware equ 12008h
stdbmemofs equ 1498BCh ; < WAS fixed by 4920 dash
D5960_offset equ 00001B000h ; eggsBox
mem_offset equ 0D004B694h - D5960_offset ; adrress when launched from 4920 only
HEAD0 dd 'DDAE'
HEAD1 dd (mem_offset-1498C8h)/4; = $ CFEE6DCC / 4 = 33FB9B73
HEAD2 dd start-HEAD0+stdbmemofs; JMP TO > START
;;;
;;; Summary:
;;; 1) Remove the subdirectory 1498C8 (HEAD2) that Dashboard created.
;;; 2) Rewrite ST.DB to disk (because Dashboard gobbles it.)
;;; 3) Change the Microsoft public key in kernel to habibi-key.
;;; 4) Load and run a habibi-signed XBE.
;;;
start:
call base
base: pop ebp
jmp short continuecode
trnumstr db 'T:\music\1498C8',0
trnum dw $-trnumstr-1, $-trnumstr-1
ptrnumstr dd trnumstr+stdbmemofs
tmusicstdb dw 14, 14
dd 17E10h
dispose db 1
xbestr db '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition1;default.xbe',0
XBESTRLEN equ $-xbestr
continuecode:
dec dword [ebp+HEAD1-base]
dec dword [ebp+HEAD2-base]
push dword [ebp+HEAD0-base-4]
call dword [NtClose]
push byte 26
pop ecx
xor eax,eax
mov edi,stdbmemofs+416
rep stosd
inc eax
stosd
mov dword [edi-12],21371h
push eax
mov ebx,esp ; File handle
push eax
push eax
mov esi,esp ; IO status
lea eax,[ebp+trnum-base]
push byte 40h
push eax
push byte -3
mov edi,esp ; Object attributes
push byte 1
push byte 4
push esi
push edi
push dword 10000h
push ebx
call dword [NtOpenFile]
push byte 13 ; 13 = FileDispositionInformation
push byte 1
lea eax,[ebp+dispose-base]
push eax
push esi
push dword [ebx]
call dword [NtSetInformationFile]
push dword [ebx]
call dword [NtClose]
lea eax,[ebp+tmusicstdb-base]
mov [edi+4],eax
push byte 22h
push byte 3
push esi
push edi
push dword 40100000h
push ebx
call dword [NtOpenFile]
mov eax,512+12
lea edx,[ebp+HEAD0-base]
call write
push byte 101
pop ecx
mov eax,512-12
wl: push ecx
mov edx,10D70h; zeroes at 0x10D70
call write
mov eax,512
pop ecx
loop wl
push dword [ebx]
call dword [NtClose]
patchpublickey:
mov eax,[XePublicKeyData]
pushf
cli
mov ecx,cr0
push ecx
and ecx,0FFFEFFFFh
mov cr0,ecx
xor dword [eax+110h],2DD78BD6h
pop ecx
mov cr0,ecx
popf
launchxbe:
mov esi,[LaunchDataPage]
mov edi,1000h
mov ebx,[esi]
test ebx,ebx
jnz .memok
push edi
call dword [MmAllocateContiguousMemory]
mov ebx,eax
mov [esi],eax
.memok:
push byte 1
push edi
push ebx
call dword [MmPersistContiguousMemory]
mov edi,ebx
xor eax,eax
mov ecx,400h
rep stosd
or dword [ebx],byte -1
; mov [ebx+4],eax
lea edi,[ebx+8]
lea esi,[ebp+xbestr-base]
push byte XBESTRLEN
pop ecx
rep movsb
push byte 2
call dword [HalReturnToFirmware]
.inf: jmp short .inf
write:
xor ecx,ecx
push ecx
push eax
push edx
push esi
push ecx
push ecx
push ecx
push dword [ebx]
call dword [NtWriteFile]
ret
%if $-HEAD0 > 412
%error 412 bytes maximum!
%endif
times 512-$+HEAD0 db 0
dd 21371h, 0, 1 ; An empty no-name track (for HD to HD copy)
times 52224-$+HEAD0 db 0
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: LittleRabbit on April 04, 2010, 04:38:00 AM
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Hi guys!
I'm a newby from the newbies on Xbox : I bought my first Xbox a few weeks ago, to make it a Mame, Kawax and other emulators machine :-). Im writing from France : sorry if my English is not perfect, I hope you will be able to understand what Im trying to say ;-).
So, its a PAL Xbox, version 1.6, with a kernel 5838, it was already softmoded, never opened with the original 8 GB hard disk in it.
Im replacing the original hard disk with a 120 GB Maxtor one.
I read a lot of the topics found on this amazing forum and got XboxHDM v1.9, Ndure 3.1, and of course, my EEPROM files.
Here are my tries and what is working / not working.
1) Basic Xbox HDM 1.9:
If I make a standard XboxHDM image, burn it, boot it and format the 120 GB disk, everything goes right. Then I lock the HD, place it back on the Xbox and switch it on : the Xbox boots, and I get the standard MS dash.
2) Ndure 3.1 build for XboxHDM:
I select the following options :
- Core files (Install Ndur Basic, Boot XBL dash with Ekect
- Kernel selection 5838
- Create XboxHDM installer
It works fine and it creates the C and E folders. I copy those folders to the Linux folder of XboxHDM and make my iso image, and then burn it.
I eventually unlock the HD if locked and select option 1) from XboxHDM boot menu. Then I type xboxhd and select option 1). XboxHDM detect my 120 GB HD, create the partitions and format them.
Then I get the first problem : when XboxHDM tries to copy files to C and E partitions, he cant find the files. I get the message Searching for files : C/xboxdash.xbe : unknown operand, cannot find system files. The weird thing is that the mentioned file is actually present on the CD
Since the files cant be found here, I launch xbrowser and copy the files by myself with F5.
I copy all the files from C and E folders to PriMas/C and /E.
I reboot XboxHDM and lock the hard drive with the command lockhd a. I place it back on the Xbox and switch it on : the Xbox boots, and I get the Unleash dash ! :-) Not too bad so ;-).
However, it seems that some parts are not working : if I boot with Eject button, or if I select MS Dash in the menu, he cant find any files. As a matter of fact, if I browse the files from the Unleash menu, the C partition is empty ! With a ftp client, I succeed in copying files to E or F, but I cant copy to C either (C looks empty from ftp too).
Have you any clue why I get the copy error while XboxHDM 1.9 is running ? Would you know why the C partition is empty and how I could get the standard MS dash too ?
Thanks a bunch in advance for your help.
Kind regards,
Little Rabbit
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: steveo1978 on April 04, 2010, 01:14:00 PM
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You real C is hidden my by something called shadowC
try this thread http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=664143
that should get you up and running
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: LittleRabbit on April 08, 2010, 03:21:00 PM
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Hi Steveo1978 !
Thanks for your answer, it's very kind of you.
I spent quite a lot of time last week-end figuring out what I was doing wrong. I found several things :-).
First, I wasn't moving the files prepared by Ndure Installer to the right place ! I swear, I RTFM ;-), but I didn't read it carefully enough ! I was moving the contents of the ndure folder to the C and E folders of xboxhdm instead of moving the whole ndure folder itself in the linux folder. Second mistake, I missed the ndure.htm copying "batch" file. I copied them manually and that was my mistake. And last one, I didn't put the original MS dashboard files in the C folder of the linux folder of xboxhdm !
Anyway, I finally succeded in making it working properly.
Thanks to this forum and thanks for your help.
Kind regards,
Little Rabbit
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: dmk900 on October 24, 2010, 03:07:00 AM
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I cannot find a write up on these options;
What do they all do in a little more detail?
I'm wanting to softmod a unmodded xbox1 (5838)
and once I've done that want to change the hdd to a ide 120gb
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: Heimdall on October 24, 2010, 03:45:00 AM
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There's a huge difference between asking for clarification and asking to be spoon-fed. Try search (top right of the screen, third button from the right), or Google, and some common sense. For example, what do you think "Boot XBL dash with eject" means? It means that when you press eject it boots XBL, which is the Xbox Live dash. RGB is a video output standard, used in VGA, so what do you think "Use Nkpatcher RGB" means? The others are equally obvious, or findable with a really small amount of searching.
This post has been edited by Heimdall: Oct 24 2010, 10:47 AM
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: PadMasta44 on May 13, 2011, 11:39:00 AM
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quick question:
Im wanting to setup my PC (XP64 soon to be Win7x64) to run Xbox (original) games.
This wouldnt be the right program to use now would it?
So that been said; does anyone know where I could find such a program? Xbox emulator for the PC that is.
Please and thank you's
-PM44
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Title: Ndure Installer For Pc
Post by: ldotsfan on May 13, 2011, 10:01:00 PM
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This wouldnt be the right program to use now would it?
So that been said; does anyone know where I could find such a program? Xbox emulator for the PC that is.
Please and thank you's
-PM44
No. Try dxbx or cxbx instead
Post by: kingroach on November 20, 2005, 08:49:00 AM
Post by: Lippuzz on November 20, 2005, 03:23:00 PM
Post by: Lippuzz on November 20, 2005, 03:28:00 PM
whoooo, due some timeout errors i did't thought i actually posted
why can't i delete my own post?
Post by: Ndure protagonist on November 20, 2005, 06:46:00 PM
This seemed to be because the x2onlinedash.xbe was included, even though I hadn't selected it, and the filler1.img was now 2 MB bigger. So I manually deleted that .xbe and reverted the .img back to 21 MB...
I've also tested the new "uber" patcher (re. UDDAE) and the 3.0-beta again produced a C folder that was too big. So I manually deleted the x2onlinedash.xbe and 1.5 MB filler2.img it had unnecessarily included...
The UDDAE fragged when I triggered it though, so I subsequently copied the /C/bios/bios.xbe to /E/bios.xbe as a fix for that...
Btw, I noticed you've implemented my "xonlinedash.xbe" discovery as well; thanks! However, the real one should be kept too (as 'x0nlinedash.xbe' maybe) and included in the de-/activate Ndure toggles...
Post by: kingroach on November 20, 2005, 08:45:00 PM
" into the installer but I dont know how well that will go..QUOTE
The UDDAE fragged when I triggered it though, so I subsequently copied the /C/bios/bios.xbe to /E/bios.xbe as a fix for that
oops .. I messed up the path then.. but its no biggie.. I will just compile with correct path.. I assume teh ST.DB was generic.. I double checked the kernel specific ones.. @Lippuzz,
I meant nkpatcher.. you cannt see because its hidden in C drive.. anyway to get extra space.. just format F drive after you install softmod..
Post by: Ndure protagonist on November 20, 2005, 09:17:00 PM
Btw, fwiw; I think the following "self-contained" configuration (re. not needing an exploitable game) would be the best default, checked options: Basic Files & Retail Files & Add ShadowC & Add UDDAE & Add Ndure Toolset...
Post by: xman954 on November 20, 2005, 11:11:00 PM
A extra level of protection could be added with a C:\rescuedash\default.xbe (nkpatcher11 will look for it as a last resort on the real "C")
you may want to change the clock check path in xboxapps.asm
FROM: clk_ph2: db '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\msxboxdash.xbe',0,0 ; without shadowC
TO: ??? uberdash.xbe with clock support files added in it's xboxdashdata.17cdc100 ???
and also the "generic" ST.DB boots only E:\default.xbe (will fix it so it can boot C:\whatever\whatever.xbe )
Post by: kingroach on November 21, 2005, 08:21:00 AM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on November 21, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
kingroach, the C partition limit is 496 MB (on my Xbox for sure) which is what Ndure 2.1's patcher generates...
Post by: deftonesmx17 on November 22, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on November 22, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
@deftonesmx17,
it shoudl work with ndure 2.1.. but in ndure 3.0 beta the eepeom path is C:\eeprom\eeprom.bin ( my fault, forgot to change the path to C:\shadowc\).. anyway are you trying to change settings with open tray?.. then it might be problem..copy MS dashfiles to shadowc and change settings.. then they will be written to virtual eeprom, with open tray, you are changing settings in real eeprom.
Post by: deftonesmx17 on November 22, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Nov 22 2005, 06:14 PM)
it shoudl work with ndure 2.1.. but in ndure 3.0 beta the eepeom path is C:\eeprom\eeprom.bin ( my fault, forgot to change the path to C:\shadowc\)
Thanks for the info
QUOTE
anyway are you trying to change settings with open tray
No, I was copying the xboxdash files to the shadowc, thats why I was interested in the virtual eeprom. I dont like the dual boot. I never use live and never will so single boot for me.
Post by: BlackFoxx on November 22, 2005, 06:30:00 PM
I'm not sure HOW to upload these files. do I NEED a modded xbox to do it? I'm just straight up confused. Win98 comp
Xbox 2003 made last update: halo 2. Not modded what so ever.
network: comp, father's comp, xbox.
What programs do I need? and what kind of person does I need to speak to?
Post by: kingroach on November 24, 2005, 07:24:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on November 26, 2005, 09:18:00 PM
* filler files fix.. creates 496MB ( with any combination of options selected)
* xmans new nkpatcher 11 U2
* xmans new st.db, now it will boot C:\bios\bios.xbe
* changed clock check path to C:\xb0xdash.xbe
* rescue dash (evox) to C:\shadowc\resc\ folder
* -habibi signed x2onlinedash.xbe
* I left uberdash.rar file before.. fixed..
Post by: [BR]TAD on November 29, 2005, 12:40:00 PM
I tried to softmod my Xbox before 2 days, using Ndure 2.1 with XboxHDM and Hotswap.
But it didnt worked.
So I need some help and tips to do it right, because I will try again.
Here some details of my PC:
- Boot set to Boot from CD
- Primary Master set to PC's HD
- Primary Slave set to PC's DVD Recorder
- 1 free IDE Cable (it was for my DVD ROM, but my DVD-ROM has some problems so I removed it)
Here some steps I took to softmod my Xbox:
1. Opened Xbox's Case.
2. Opened PC's Case.
3. Turn on the PC.
4. Insert my Ndure 2.1 with XboxHDM CD in my DVD Recorder.
5. Remove XBox HD outside xbox.
6. Pluged the Xbox S-Video cable in TV.
7. Turn on the TV.
8. Turn on the XBox and restart my PC together.
9. I pressed Pause/Break key of the keyboard.
10. When I saw the big X with the word MS in the botton, I removed the Xbox's HD IDE Cable and hotswaped with my PC's HD IDE Cable.
11. Pressed Enter to continue.
12. Ndure 2.1 with XboxHDM options appeared.
13. I choised option 3.
14. It said the eepron is not found in the Ndure 2.1 with XboxHDM CD, and got error 7 in the TV.
15. Tried to boot the PC and XBox together again, and my Ndure 2.1 with XboxHDM CD just said that eepron not found in my softmod cd and in TV just started to show error 21.
About softmod
What I should do ???
How I get my eepron from Xbox's HD ???
About the PC IDE Cables
When I hotswap, I should plug the free IDE Cable of my PC or the PC's HD IDE Cable ???
About Xbox
I should unplug the IDE cable of Xbox DVD-ROM before start the softmod or not ???
Thanks
Topic: http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=464217
Post by: kingroach on November 29, 2005, 02:48:00 PM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 04, 2005, 04:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Nov 20 2005, 06:53 PM)
Btw, I noticed you've implemented my "xonlinedash.xbe" discovery as well; thanks! However, the real one should be kept too (as 'x0nlinedash.xbe' maybe) and included in the de-/activate Ndure toggles...
Post by: kingroach on December 04, 2005, 05:41:00 PM
please check the size of C.. No matter what I do I can make a 496 MB C but in properties it says 497 available space in folder..
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 04, 2005, 09:02:00 PM
Thanks for the update; I've tested its patcher a couple of ways ... the real .xbe was retained each time, the install's "C" folder was 496 MB (via win2k's properties), it ftp'd over, booted, Live tabbed and UDDAE'd correctly with Ndure active and de-activated ... great work dude.
{: I've emailed you again though ... just some "minor stuff". :}
Post by: [BR]TAD on December 05, 2005, 01:49:00 PM
I tried before 2 days again, to softmod, but its not working.
Xbrowser didnt appeared.
Something wrong when I try to hotswap.
I hotswap with lees than 5 minutes (with my friends' help). And may be we did less than 3 minutes.
Also I readed all the faqs and tips and tutorias for hotswap.
I cant search for the Dadyj's Faq that kingroach told me, because forum's search is not working.
Anyone can help me with, what I should do ???
Thanks
Post by: kingroach on December 05, 2005, 07:29:00 PM
shadowc is enabled so when you ftp into C , you should see a blank C drive.. and for F drive.. format F drive with unleashx and it will appear..
@
TAD,
the best way to hoyswap ( I do this way) is to copy any music using your xboxdash.. then go to music, play the track for 10-20 secs and pause the music.. now you have unlimited time to swap the cable and hotswap.
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 06, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
kingroach; thanks for fixing the 3.0 config file and when you get a chance, consider updating three of the paragraphs in the Readme.pdf with something like these instead (not quite as emailed):
...in the patcher section...
For this, it is recommended that you have latest MS dash (5960.01 V. 185EAD00). Have all of the dash files in a folder named "C". Next, run the installer. As 'Destination Folder', select the parent folder that has your dash files "C" folder in it (don't select "C" folder). The installer will add/rename/delete necessary files and create a complete C drive replacement.
...in the uploading section...
First make sure that you do not have a 4 MB file called "settings_adoc.xip" in xboxdashdata.185EAD00 in "C" folder or C drive. If there is the 4 MB file, then delete it (but don't delete it if it's smaller).
...in the UDDAE section...
HOW TO RUN: In xboxdash go to Music>blank soundtrack>Copy>Select>Copy>New Soundtrack>
<<Eggs|3ox>> (with two '<' Symbols, capital 'E', beta Accent '|3' and two '>' Symbols)
>Done (UberDash starts)>Music>blank soundtrack>Copy>Copy>New Soundtrack>Done
Post by: kingroach on December 06, 2005, 11:07:00 AM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 06, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Dec 6 2005, 11:14 AM)
I am planning to redo the readme with some pictures.. I will defenately add the fixes on that..
{+ Maybe mention that ALL of the resultant "C" folder AND "E" folder contents need to be ftp'd over... +}
Post by: [BR]TAD on December 08, 2005, 05:45:00 PM
QUOTE(2121oyoy @ Dec 6 2005, 08:40 PM)
I know this doesn't go here but since he asked,
@
TAD,
I have found that the easiest way for me to hotswap is to induce an error. With the xbox off, unplug the dvd ide cable. Then power on the xbox. You get error 11 or 12 I don't remember. At this time the hdd is unlocked.
Hi
I did it got the error 12, but the problem is about hotswap time.
I did hotswap less than 5 minutes, but its such I didnt did it in time.
Thanks
Post by: [BR]TAD on December 09, 2005, 04:26:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Dec 6 2005, 04:36 AM)
@HardcoreHalo,
shadowc is enabled so when you ftp into C , you should see a blank C drive.. and for F drive.. format F drive with unleashx and it will appear..
@
TAD,
the best way to hoyswap ( I do this way) is to copy any music using your xboxdash.. then go to music, play the track for 10-20 secs and pause the music.. now you have unlimited time to swap the cable and hotswap.
Hi
So I dont need to remove the IDE Cable from Xbox DVD ???
Thanks
Post by: 2121oyoy on December 09, 2005, 11:32:00 AM
TAD,
Hi
So I dont need to remove the IDE Cable from Xbox DVD ???
Thanks
The only readon I said to remove the ide cable from the dvd was to induce the error. Once you have the error the drive is unlocked. There is no 5 min waiting this way. If you unlock it another way then you do not have to remove the ide from the dvd. When you hotswap you will not be removing the power from the hdd. Also you may have to adjust your pc bios. There are many tuts on hotswapping. Read them to make sure you are doing it correctly.
Post by: [BR]TAD on December 09, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
QUOTE(2121oyoy @ Dec 9 2005, 08:39 PM)
@
TAD,
Hi
So I dont need to remove the IDE Cable from Xbox DVD ???
Thanks
The only readon I said to remove the ide cable from the dvd was to induce the error. Once you have the error the drive is unlocked. There is no 5 min waiting this way. If you unlock it another way then you do not have to remove the ide from the dvd. When you hotswap you will not be removing the power from the hdd. Also you may have to adjust your pc bios. There are many tuts on hotswapping. Read them to make sure you are doing it correctly.
Hi
I am just asking kingroach, by the way he do, I need to remove also the xbox dvd IDE cable ???
I did what you said now, but it didnt worked.
Also I readed alot of hotswap tutorials and its still the same.
Thanks
Post by: kingroach on December 09, 2005, 09:51:00 PM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 10, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
QUOTE(xsonicc @ Dec 9 2005, 10:56 AM)
i installed Ndure for retail mode.. everything works great i get unleashX with power button and M$ Dash with eject button just fine... the only problem is that when i try registering my xbox live account i get a black window, everything from Xlive like network configuration on settings sends me to black screen.
also when im on unleash x my c drive looks empty.. is there a way i can get acces to my c drive and boot my xbox with this settings eject m& and power unleash???
also i deleted filler.img because it didnt let me boot m$ dash
Deleting that file "to fit it all" means your C's setup wasn't quite right (and now if a retail disc's dashupdate.xbe runs you may need to re-do it all).
Also, it's best to register for Live before installing almost all softmods. You can still do it with Ndure installed though, such by de-activating with the Ndure Toolset then setting up Live, but you'd subsequently need a way to re-activate Ndure from the MS dash (UDDAE is included with Ndure 3.0 for that purpose) or to reinstall it.
Regarding the Ndure Toolset, including a way to use your (initially empty) virtual C, see the green link in my sig...
Post by: Jangaboo on December 10, 2005, 01:58:00 PM
Only 2.1 is showing up in /XBOX/exploits/_Packages/Kingroachs Installer/
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 10, 2005, 04:13:00 PM
I recommend installing it like this:
create a folder named Ndure in C:\ (on the PC)
create a folder named C in C:\Ndure
copy your MS dash backup into C:\Ndure\C
run Ndure-3.0.exe
[Next]
'Add UDDAE' and 'Add Ndure Toolset' (in addition to the 3 default options)
C:\Ndure (it's *not* the C folder here!)
[Next]
[Finish]
(in window's properties, verify that C:\Ndure\C is 496 MB and C:\Ndure\E is 13.5 MB)
(if you have existing MS dash soundtracks and want to keep them,
then rename your /E/TDATA/fffe000/music/ST.DB so it remains available)
transfer C:\Ndure\E\TDATA\fffe000\music\ST.DB into /E/TDATA/fffe000/music/
transfer C:\Ndure\E\ndts (folder&contents) into /E/ (or /E/apps/ if you want it auto-listed in the softmod)
transfer C:\Ndure\E\dash (folder&contents) into /E/
delete all of the Xbox's (real)C contents
transfer all of C:\Ndure\C (8 folders&contents and 2 files) into /C/
re-start the Xbox; its (virtual)C is empty initially, so it's a good idea to ftp your MS dash backup into there now too...
Post by: kingroach on December 11, 2005, 09:43:00 AM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 13, 2005, 02:03:00 AM
Post by: xman954 on December 13, 2005, 11:19:00 PM
read it good, and think
Post by: kingroach on December 15, 2005, 08:53:00 AM
I uploaded a new build.. changes:
* Extra UDDAE option, you can choose to boot either NKpatcher or x2onlinedash.xbe by deafult.
* Changes Xbox.xtf to xbox.xtf for xboxhdm installation ( thnx for the hint NP). Other than ordering issue, xboxhdm also has issue with any Uppercase filde.. there is switch that will create a .iso with all lowercase files ( forgot the switch)..
* New readme..
again I will recommend new users to use Ndure installer 2.1 which is tested and you can get from xbins.
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 15, 2005, 11:45:00 AM
kingroach; well done ... yet another 1st for your uber softmod installer! (Maybe change the installer's description text for the new feature, to something like "Load xonlinedash console at UDDAE instead of Nkpatcher".)
Also, consider adding the generic font and generic ST.DB to the end of the kernel specific lists too ... then if they're all selected, which is easily done, I presume the last copied will be the generic (plus folks that think they have to select one will have that choice too)...
Post by: kingroach on December 15, 2005, 06:36:00 PM
Post by: ticaal on December 15, 2005, 07:54:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Dec 15 2005, 08:43 PM)
you should have about 500MB of space in any blank C drive
Thats odd. It says 299MB. Anyone ever see this before? Sorry for crowding this thread....maybe I should start another topic.
Post by: kingroach on December 15, 2005, 09:08:00 PM
Ticall, I think you are seeing shadowc which is 299MB..
Post by: Jangaboo on December 15, 2005, 10:48:00 PM
I haven't checked Xbins yet but the "other" links, are those new?
Post by: Jangaboo on December 16, 2005, 12:53:00 AM
Thanks again
Post by: kics on December 16, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
dirs
AUDIO
BIO
FONTS
MEDIA
SHADOWC
XBOXDASHDATA.185EAD00
XODASH
files
msxboxdas.xbe 1.87 mb
xbox book.xtf
xbox.xtf
xboxdas.xbe
........
i don't want to erase anything, i still have acces to my xbox.. (gonna backup all my gamesaves )... so what can i do to ... make it work... it says error 21.. i'm going to experiment installing again the softmod to see what happens...
Post by: kics on December 16, 2005, 03:51:00 PM
i'm not going to mess around again w/the contents hehe...
latersss
Post by: girlss on December 17, 2005, 04:40:00 AM
Post by: ticaal on December 17, 2005, 11:03:00 PM
Thanks Again!
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 19, 2005, 09:14:00 AM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Dec 13 2005, 02:10 AM)
{; Kingroach: for UDDAE the 12 MB filler1.img in flr.rar is too big; 9.25 MB (9,699,328 bytes) is perfect... ;}
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3123957
Post by: kingroach on December 19, 2005, 10:55:00 AM
Post by: DaddyJ on December 21, 2005, 06:05:00 AM
QUOTE(ArjanDotOrg @ Dec 21 2005, 06:39 AM)
What is UDDAE?
I beleive it was a spin-off of the Uber Double Dash EasterEgg Exploit.
Post by: kingroach on December 21, 2005, 08:09:00 AM
UDDAE ( uber double dash audio exploit) is a audio exploit (duh..
).. what audio exploit does is to launch a public key ( -habibi) signed .xbe to boot from unmodded retail ms dash..
Post by: DaddyJ on December 21, 2005, 09:47:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Dec 21 2005, 10:16 AM)
UDDAE ( uber double dash audio exploit) is a audio exploit (duh..
).. I was close.... lol
Post by: krayzie on December 21, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
Post by: LafferUSA on December 21, 2005, 02:06:00 PM
The fonts.du problem is still there.
Is this problem fixed yet?
Post by: ArjanDotOrg on December 22, 2005, 06:50:00 AM
Can I just use Ndure .6? Or do I have to use Ndure .67?
And does XboxHDM support G-drives?
Or can I just use XboxHDM to prepare the disk with a really big F:-drive?
Thanks,
Arjan
Post by: DaddyJ on December 22, 2005, 07:32:00 AM
QUOTE(ArjanDotOrg @ Dec 22 2005, 08:57 AM)
Tonight I have to build a 250GB in an xbox.
Can I just use Ndure .6? Or do I have to use Ndure .67?
And does XboxHDM support G-drives?
Or can I just use XboxHDM to prepare the disk with a really big F:-drive?
Thanks,
Arjan
06 will work fine on a 250 drive. xboxhdm can prepare the drive, and will format the F
xboxhdm does not format the G ever, unless you know your linux commands
Post by: kingroach on December 22, 2005, 08:39:00 AM
QUOTE(tonylu @ Dec 22 2005, 09:42 AM)
I first used Textbook's method to softmod my xbox, later I added a 200gb HD. Then used xboxHD to build the HD as orignal one (I can use it to boot MS dash). So I moded the 200gb HD again using Textbook's method. Then I wanted to update to Unleash using Ndure 2.1, but I found I can't write to C: while doing anything on other drives. Later I used xboxHD to "Build a new xbox HD from scrath", but I still couldn't copy any files into C:. So now I'm running Unleash with files on E:, I can't boot to MS dash. Any suggestions? Do I need to wipe fatx table before building a new HD? Btw, Ndure is great, much more function then Evox.
so now you have ndure installed, you can boot to unleashx just cannt boot to MS dash right?..
Post by: kingroach on December 22, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on December 22, 2005, 10:52:00 AM
QUOTE(LafferUSA @ Dec 21 2005, 02:13 PM)
Snap, my Top Spin/NCAA 2005 mulitgame disk doesn't work.
The fonts.du problem is still there.
Is this problem fixed yet?
The Fonts folder and its XTF's remain in place when fonts.du is created (and are still found by all XBE's that need them).
What exactly happens when that disc is coldbooted, with both the generic and the kernel specific font?
(The font can be toggled via the Ndure Toolset and makes a difference if xboxdash.xbe gets re-invoked, such as occurs after acknowledging a dashupdate.xbe failure message...)
Post by: kingroach on December 22, 2005, 12:45:00 PM
Post by: tonylu on December 23, 2005, 03:32:00 PM
QUOTE(tonylu @ Dec 22 2005, 10:28 PM)
I tried to format the empty C, but I couldn't. Btw, the shadowc folder should be in C:, right? I also found I somehow didn't put the settings_adoc.xip file into "xboxdashdata.185ead00", that's why I can't see network settings i guess. I tried to just copy my backup settings_adoc.xip to C:, the copied file only shows 0kb.
I also tried to use xbrowser in xboxhdm to copy "settings_adoc.xip" to my xbox c, but not enough space on C (only 335mb), which is wired, since ndure files are about 497MB, how can I copy all the files into xbox C?
Post by: perplx on December 24, 2005, 06:12:00 PM
QUOTE(tonylu @ Dec 22 2005, 11:25 AM)
Hi kingroach, now I can boot to MS from Eject button and access to my C:
. But when I look network settings, it boots to ndure automatically. When I cold-boot to ndure, C: is empty if I use FTP browser and I can't write it. But if I launch ndure toolset, I can access my C: again like booting to MS dash. I have no idea about it.I have had this problem too, I think its a problem with xboxhdm. I was able to fix it by running ndure toolset to see the real C. Then I deleted all files on C and FTP'd ndure over. Then I was able to write to virtual C.
So start fresh over ftp.
Post by: tonylu on December 27, 2005, 05:04:00 PM
QUOTE(perplx @ Dec 24 2005, 08:19 PM)
I have had this problem too, I think its a problem with xboxhdm. I was able to fix it by running ndure toolset to see the real C. Then I deleted all files on C and FTP'd ndure over. Then I was able to write to virtual C.
So start fresh over ftp.
I've already done that several times, but each time my xbox refused to boot. Thanks anyway.
Post by: Takenover83 on December 28, 2005, 08:57:00 PM
CODE
Basic Files
Retail Files
Add Shadow C
Nkpatcher Options (Use Nkpatcher .67)
Kernel Specific Fonts (5838)
Add Ndure Toolset.
Retail Files
Add Shadow C
Nkpatcher Options (Use Nkpatcher .67)
Kernel Specific Fonts (5838)
Add Ndure Toolset.
After that I uploaded everything and took some caution with the 2 files that needed to uploaded individually.
Everything appears to run ok(unleashx) but shadowc was empty. Hmm so I thought I would test something before populating shadowc with a clean dash. So I tried to boot into retail mode(booted with eject) and to my surprise, I got the retail dash? How, isnt this called from shadowc which was currently empty. I hope it wasnt loading the dash with all the exploited files....Any who I will stay away from Xbox Live till I find out. I loaded up Unleashx and populated the shadowc with a clean retail dash. Is this all normal? Should I be worried?
Post by: kingroach on December 28, 2005, 09:46:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on December 28, 2005, 10:05:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on December 29, 2005, 08:24:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on January 01, 2006, 08:19:00 PM
if C:\xboxdashdata.185ead00\boot1.bin file is present then boot x2onlinedash.xbe with -habibi key
else, boot C:\xodash.xbe with ms key patch back.
however this wasnt my initial plan.. if you looked at some previous test build.. the check was done in a seperate .xbe but intigrating that check code in nkpatcher is much simple and easier to use.
2. xonlinedash.xbe is from 5960 dash.. nomally xodash font check goes like this:
C:\xodash\
C:\fonts
C:\
I just changed the first font check value from C:\xodash\ to C:\fonts\ ( check the Fuckms thread for more info).. also xonlinedash.xbe checks for retail dash in C:\xboxdash.xbe , I changed the value to C:\xb0xdash\.. All of these can be done with hex editing..Then I useed FuckMS patch so that it would boot from -habibi key.. This modified xonlinedash.xbe is renmed as x2onlinedash.xbe and xonlinedash.xbe in C:\xodash\ folder is replaced with 5960 xboxdash.xbe . This way when you are in retail dash, if you try to go to xbox live menu , xbox wont hang ( Because real xonlinedash.xbe checks for 5960 dash in C:\xboxdash.xbe while xboxdash.xbe doesnt so it would just relaunch the MS dash.
hope this answers your question.. or feel free to ask more and give some suggestion after checking it out..
Post by: Ndure protagonist on January 01, 2006, 11:29:00 PM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Dec 13 2005, 02:10 AM)
{; Kingroach: for UDDAE the 12 MB filler1.img in flr.rar is too big; 9.25 MB (9,699,328 bytes) is perfect... ;}
kingroach, I was preparing and testing a follow-on post, explaining how non-3.0 Ndure users can also use its UDDAE files to launch the online dash/console from the open tray (retail) state.QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Dec 19 2005, 09:21 AM)
Thanks for fixing that (@Dec.15) kingroach; it can now be used by 2.1 users (and others) to install UDDAE:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3123957
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3123957
However, I noticed you've changed the flr.rar to be fludd.rar (@Dec.29) and it doesn't contain 9.25 MB again! It's contents are less now and consequently leave too much free space in C (re. the linked post's usage) ... have you changed it to be like that for a different purpose?
{? Re. boot1.bin ... maybe a more meaningfully named file in E would be better (like nkp11 uses for switching off the virtual C and EEPROM) so it can be toggled without needing to access the real C ?}
Post by: kingroach on January 02, 2006, 06:59:00 PM
Post by: krayzie on January 02, 2006, 11:31:00 PM
QUOTE(krizalid @ Jan 3 2006, 06:14 AM)
Thx alot kingroach, I kinda did think about fixing the xonlindash.xbe to try to change the name of \xodash\Xbox.xtf to something else mb, but never really tried. Well here's some stuff i've been thinkin about but they might not work at all.
* means some possibilities but failed.
*1.- try to exploit the files inside \media\ folder used by the ndure boot, i actually got it to error 21, that kinda tells me it could be possible in a certain way, and that way we don't depend on fonts, but rather other files that loads into the dash.
*2.- fuckMS msdash.xbe when booting retail, but i can't load xonlinedash.xbe retail nor patched.
3.- my last attemp i'm gonna go try.
use update.xbe from UXE to load fonts bert-something.xtf and ernie.xtf to load the softmod, while keeping the other msdash.xbe and xonlinedash.xbe retail and unmodded, and this could be a possible way to load the fonts correctly and have full use of the ms dashboard.
xboxdash.xbe (update from nfl)>fonts\ernie.xtf/bert-kernel or ge.xtf>dual boot etc.
if open tray>msdash.xbe (retail xboxdash.xbe 5960)>fonts\Xbox.xtf/Xbox Book.xtf=fully retail and compatible with the hash checks on the xonlinedash.xbe and vice versa.
*crosses fingers*
1: very unlikely. it's still a font exploit. other files have been checked..
2: yes that's true
3: when keeping hacked fonts in C:\fonts how do you wanna load msdash? also xonlinedash.xbe needs a retail 5960 C:\xboxdash.xbe (checksum)
Post by: krayzie on January 03, 2006, 02:35:00 AM
And it would be nice if we found another exploit. you can look at what files are called by an xbe using an app called apilogger made by pedrospad. I wouldn't set my hopes on it though. you can probablt crash the xbox in many ways but only few are vulnerable.
Post by: kingroach on January 03, 2006, 01:45:00 PM
3. you can never launch xonlinedash.xbe with any combination.. other than hash xonlinedash.xbe also checks the signature version of C:\xboxdash.xbe and both UXE and Ndure exploit has signature version 17cdc100 while xonlinedash.xbe (5960) has signature version 185ead00.. now you could possibly insert XONLINE library from ndure.xbe to xonlinedash.xbe (5960) but I havnt been able to do so.. and I dont knwo any tool that can extract/insert library into an .xbe.. I think you can do it with hexedit ( I have seen someone did in developer forum).. still I dont know how much you can gain from it..
Post by: kingroach on January 04, 2006, 04:58:00 PM
QUOTE
MS® Windows® CE .NET supports the Japanese Pocket Input Method Editor (IME) version 2.0. An IME is a program that allows users to enter complex characters and symbols, such as Japanese Kanji characters, by using a standard keyboard. Pocket IME is a small-size IME that can support embedded systems without keyboards that have small screens and a minimum memory footprint.
this three links might be helpful:
http://msdn.MS.com/l..._Pocket_IME.asp
http://msdn.MS.com/l..._windows_ce.asp
replace MS with MS..
http://msdn.MS.com/l..._code_files.asp
apparantly the source code for pocket ime comes with windows CE.. now I dont have any special expertise on windows ce ( other than few failed attempt to make a customize windows ce for my computer
).. so if pocket ime have any flaw in it, which it should considering its a MS product
you could certainly exploit these two files..
Post by: kingroach on January 24, 2006, 06:41:00 AM
Post by: xXSanjuroXx on January 24, 2006, 09:16:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on January 24, 2006, 10:46:00 AM
QUOTE(xXSanjuroXx @ Jan 24 2006, 05:23 PM)
Any plans for putting this into a 007 / MA / SC game save auto installer?
Not now.. there is a gamesave like scriot called "ndure toolset" in the installer but it runs as a application.. But for gamesave side Krazie is doing Ndure installer 1.1 gamesave..
Post by: tyraen on January 24, 2006, 02:25:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on January 24, 2006, 03:33:00 PM
@tetsuo55,
when I get time I will try to compile a nkpatcher for you to run ms dash from shadow after eject.. you could do it yourself with Nkpatcher_11_U2.. but make sure you have recovery method if you try..
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 25, 2006, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE
site search ndure
200- (Values displayed after dir names are Files/Megs/Age)
200- Doing case-insensitive search for 'ndure':
200- /XBOX/exploits/_Packages/Krayzie Ndure Installer (4F/27.1M/166d 5h)
200-
200 1 directories found.
200- (Values displayed after dir names are Files/Megs/Age)
200- Doing case-insensitive search for 'ndure':
200- /XBOX/exploits/_Packages/Krayzie Ndure Installer (4F/27.1M/166d 5h)
200-
200 1 directories found.
Where should I be looking?!!?!
screw it. I found it on krayzies blog
Post by: kingroach on January 26, 2006, 05:46:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on January 26, 2006, 12:05:00 PM
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 12:20:00 PM
Softmod* Xbox 1.6 (120GB drive)
Windows XP Pro SP2
Visual Studio .NET 2003
XDK 5933
*I originally started out with a simple gamesave exploit over a year ago. Somewhere around six months ago I "fixed" it with another mod, hacked it up more a few weeks ago with the XDK and now I can't remember what mods I used when, but lets just say my /C/ is full of a lot of crap to the point I'm amazed it still works. (I have a backup of the original M$Dash on my PC, evox as current dash)
As for the meaning of the post... Has anyone tested the ability to use the XDK along side this? I have no use for the ShadowC as I'll end up filling that drive with other stuff that I use but I want to know that if I format, that I can continue to do my programming.
(Actually came up with a few more questions) Since I have the M$Dash backup (5960) should I just put those just those files only into the (PC) /C/ and use generic fonts? Or should I add something else to the (PC) /C/?
I'm going to follow the directions that were in post #437 in this thread, anything else I should do along with that for the XDK and other issues?
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 01:15:00 PM
CODE
Basic Files
Retail Files
Add ShadowC
Kernel Specific Fonts <- 5838
UDDAE <- Add UDDAE
^ Load xonlinedash console
^ Select Kernel, blah, blah <- 5838
Add Ndure Toolset
Retail Files
Add ShadowC
Kernel Specific Fonts <- 5838
UDDAE <- Add UDDAE
^ Load xonlinedash console
^ Select Kernel, blah, blah <- 5838
Add Ndure Toolset
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 01:50:00 PM
Turns out I uploaded /E/dash to /E/Apps/dash
By the way, thanks to all the people involved in making this, it kicks ass... I'll let you guys know if I get the XDK working with it... *I'm not going to bother trying until this weekend.
Post by: kingroach on January 26, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
QUOTE(krayzie @ Jan 26 2006, 08:12 PM)
I noticed something similar with some beta tester results. Seems like the clock code in nkp is buggy with (unleashx) reboots sometimes.
hmm .. I never got this thing and I am using Nkpatcher_11 for a while now.. But why would copying Ms dash to shadowc will trigger this an ddeleting ms dash solve this?..
@Archigos,
I think there was a tutorial on how to use xdk with softmod somewhere in this forum.. but you should use the same method that you used before.. good luck..
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 03:54:00 PM
WooHoo... KingRoach, Krayzie, eh, NP, etc... you guys f/ing rule.
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
> If I put my old dash inside the /E/dash would the mod still work correctly and boot that, or is there something that makes it "want" UnleashX?
> Not sure if this was intended, but when I run Ndure and tell it to make a setup without ShadowC I still have a ShadowC directory with filler2.img in it. Do I have to transfer this with the rest of the stuff?
> I remember reading that if the generic fonts/st.db work then there's no real reason to pick the kernel specific... so if I just ignore those in the installer I assume it will use the generic? (I have kernel 5838 on a v1.6)
If anyone wants I can:
a. host/mirror their projects (With FTP access) {I also provide 100% free blog hosting and other services}
b. write up a "Softmod friendly" guide on getting the XDK to work with Ndure 3.0
Post by: kingroach on January 26, 2006, 07:04:00 PM
2. Anything inside "shadowc" is optional
3. If you dont select any kernel than it will use generic.. however to work generic ST.DB correctly, you must have 5960 dash.
I would appriciate a XDK guide.. although I never used xdk inside xbox but I assume its some hassle..so if anyone else wants to use xdk they would a working guide..
Post by: kingroach on January 26, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
if you have the latest dash (5960, you can check it in xboxdash) for XBL account management etc. just place a file called boot1.bin in E:\ drive. Shutdown, start xbox with eject button, you xbox should boot into account management..
for boot1.bin, you can rename any file into boo1.bin and place it in the E:\ root..
btw. I noticed from your previous post that you have a upgraded hard drive.. if you had XBL with normal harddrive in that xbox then you cannt re-register for xbox live.. since XBL logs your HD key and will probably ban you if you go with a different HDD.
Post by: kingroach on January 26, 2006, 08:58:00 PM
Post by: krayzie on January 26, 2006, 10:42:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jan 26 2006, 11:11 PM)
hmm .. I never got this thing and I am using Nkpatcher_11 for a while now.. But why would copying Ms dash to shadowc will trigger this an ddeleting ms dash solve this?..
the code launches the msdash on the virtual C. If that isn't there it just continues to boot the dash
Post by: Archigos on January 26, 2006, 11:28:00 PM
I can write up a thing for XDK/Ndure on a softmod this weekend.
By the way, I did get around to doing the XDK instead of waiting and it works perfect... (well, except a small /F/ issue I'm having that I can't figure out.
Back to playing games, writing software and attempting to sleep...
Later
Post by: kingroach on January 27, 2006, 08:17:00 AM
QUOTE(krayzie @ Jan 27 2006, 06:49 AM)
the code launches the msdash on the virtual C. If that isn't there it just continues to boot the dash
That it does but only if xbox's date is lass than september 2005.. and tray open it will boot C:\xb0xdash.xbe.. In your beta test what kernel the problem'd xbox's had?
Post by: krayzie on January 27, 2006, 08:34:00 AM
edit: turns out both were 5838 kernels.
Post by: kingroach on January 27, 2006, 12:40:00 PM
@krayzie.. do they have eeprom.bin in virtual eeprom directory?.. I suspect nkpatcher read date from virtual eeprom and tries to fix the clock.. I cannt test this since this doesnt happend to me.. Ialso modded few 5838 NTSC colsoles and none gave me any problem..
Post by: kingroach on January 27, 2006, 05:06:00 PM
and for c folder in slayers.. what folder did you choose?.. dash files rae in System/ALL/C folder..
Post by: kgonepostl on January 28, 2006, 01:14:00 AM
I'm positive that I compiled the iso properly and there may be a chance that your script is crippled.
The reason I say this is because when I used option 4 to back up the C drive. I'd get a error that I can't remember off the top of my head but it was a syntax error. Maybe something like object not found....I'll post a picture tomorrow, it's 1:48 in the morning.
Also option number 2 did not work. I kept using it until I realised it was fuxored. It appeared as if parts of the script were exposed on the screen. I'd see echo commands and other things that I'm pretty sure shouldn't be there besides step 1 of 1 complete step 2 of 2 complete etc. etc.
It was obviouse that step 2 was crippled because it didn't swipe my c drive and over write it. I still had my same crap on there. I got the installer from xbins btw.
So what I did was swipe the c drive with xboxhdm, then dump the C: drive that I put on Xboxhdm from Slayers and use option 1. Which is to patch the drive.
I do have 1 very basic questions though.
Everything appeared to go off without a hitch. After I figured out the script problems. I locked the hard drive and the system booted great. I boot the msdashboard perfectly when using the eject button and when I boot with the power button it goes straight to the unleash-x dashboard.
Here's the question.
I'm selling this xbox to my 16 year old brother and he reaaaly wants to play online with Halo 2 so
I would really appreciate your input.
If I boot my game using the eject button which appears to deactivate the softmod and load a retail game that way he should be able to play on Live right?
If so great!
Also if you could you direct me to a sticky that informs me of things not to do to my Xbox that would help me not get banned from Live I would very much appreciate that.
P.S. I didn't install the UDDAE exploit because I didn't know if I needed it.
QUOTE(sulingen @ Jan 27 2006, 08:07 PM)
I am following thie guide and have made the bootabel cd with Ndure for use with xboxhdm.
I am using hotswap conncection with my pc. When i boot up Xboxhdm I start "Xbrowser" to brows to /CD/Ndure and run the ndure file. The program start and i choose option 2 "completely erases C drive and copy ndure files"
Everything seems okey, I eveen got the message all ok, but c drive has not been erased and nothing copied to the xbox.
I am sure I ´m doing something obvious wrong since all I´ve learned about xbox, I´ve learned the last month here on this forum
I was thinking, that maybe I shouldn´t run ndure from Xbrowser but i didn´t found a another way
I appreciate any help i can get and thx for a great Forum
your not alone....read my above post. I wasn't able to use option 2 either. It happened exactly like you so here was my solution. I was guessing option 2 is used to delete any files in the c drive that live may pick up on (I don't know) so he created option 2 to format the drive and then install ndure. So what I did to substituate that method was "create a xbox hd from scratch" using xboxhdm.
Then once it recreates my c drive then I use option 1 in ndure.
Post by: kingroach on January 28, 2006, 08:42:00 AM
.. I will issue a fix asap..as for live.. yes eject button deactivates the mod and you can go live.. you can also go live with coldbooting.. I dont think there is any sticky for not getting banned because nobody got banned.. and when mod is active you wont be able to go to live so that will prevent possibility of getting banned with modded xbox.
@firebadbobb,
This will but you should always fix error 21 with a fresh C drive files from Slayers disk or from your backup.
Post by: kgonepostl on January 28, 2006, 02:21:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jan 28 2006, 04:49 PM)
kgonepostl,.. yah I saw that yesterday whn I used the script yesterday.. The script is actually fine.. Wehn I last compiled Ndure 3.0 in my computer, I used notepad to see if everyting is alright and when I saved the script, notepad fuckedup formatting in script.. I always use linux to make and test the script and I paid the penalty just when I used windows..
.. I will issue a fix asap..I'm glad i was able to offer some form of help with your wonderful creation. It's a great installer.
Post by: kgonepostl on January 28, 2006, 03:15:00 PM
QUOTE(sulingen @ Jan 28 2006, 10:41 PM)
I have now just tried option 1 on the xboxhdm (formated C and E and build new partition)
I got a Alternative there if I wanted to copy som files from the Cd to C, answered No there. Can someone confirm if that is right
Then I used xbrowser and ran Ndure with option 1, but I still get the same message as always
It seems like you were doin it correct before if you used option 1 in Xboxhdm and when it asked if you want to dump your C: drive you should say yes because it will look in Xboxhdm/C:/ and dump what's in that folder. If it doesn't dump anything like it should I'd suggest you check the contents of your disc and see if there is in fact anything in Xboxhdm/C:/
Get back to us.
Post by: kgonepostl on January 28, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
Am I suppose to create my xbox live before I softmod it and do something after for this to work or is something wrong.....Man I thought everything was perfect but I suppose it's back to the drawing board.
Also I don't know if this matters but I didn't check the UDDAE checkbox in the ndure installer for pc. I have no idea if this matters but if it does let me know. I really want to get my brother on live. I was able to connect to try to make an account when I had my virgin C:\ dash with no softmod. Now it just kicks me to the dash when i try to make an account with splinter cell.
Post by: kingroach on January 28, 2006, 08:40:00 PM
@kgonepostl, yes you are supposed to create a xbox live account before you softmod.. But its no big problem.. you can just place a file called boot1.bin in E:\ drive. Then turn on your xbox with eject button and xbox will boot into xbox live console.. for there you can make a live account.. after that.. just delete boot1.bin from E:\ drive and xbox will boot as normal to MS dash..
as for boot.bin, you can rename any file into boot.bin and place it into E:\ drive.. Normally XBL console is turned off because it doesnt work with Ndure softmod.
Post by: kgonepostl on January 28, 2006, 09:42:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jan 28 2006, 09:47 PM)
@sulingen, you cannt view movies with unleashx.. you need XBMC for that.. and you nee dto ftp that in your xbox.. for FTP, you need to connect xbox with pc with a network cable.. there is networking tutorial in xbox-scene tutorial section.. check them out..
@kgonepostl, yes you are supposed to create a xbox live account before you softmod.. But its no big problem.. you can just place a file called boot1.bin in E:\ drive. Then turn on your xbox with eject button and xbox will boot into xbox live console.. for there you can make a live account.. after that.. just delete boot1.bin from E:\ drive and xbox will boot as normal to MS dash..
as for boot.bin, you can rename any file into boot.bin and place it into E:\ drive.. Normally XBL console is turned off because it doesnt work with Ndure softmod.
@kgonepostl, yes you are supposed to create a xbox live account before you softmod.. But its no big problem.. you can just place a file called boot1.bin in E:\ drive. Then turn on your xbox with eject button and xbox will boot into xbox live console.. for there you can make a live account.. after that.. just delete boot1.bin from E:\ drive and xbox will boot as normal to MS dash..
as for boot.bin, you can rename any file into boot.bin and place it into E:\ drive.. Normally XBL console is turned off because it doesnt work with Ndure softmod.
My appologies kingroach. I did read something about the .bin file and that it doesn't have to be any certain size. I just don't remember where i read it or what specifically it applied to. Thank you for your patience once again kingroach.
Post by: Ndure protagonist on January 29, 2006, 12:24:00 PM
Post by: whenever on January 29, 2006, 07:15:00 PM
With version 2.1 I am able to ftp an .iso file to xbox and use a special default.xbe to start the game but with version 3 installation I can't do this any longer. I managed to solve the issue by copying the bios.xbe of Version 2.1 back but then I lost the ability to boot to retail mode.
BTW, is there any easy way to edit the contents of shadowc.img file?
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 29, 2006, 07:21:00 PM
Obviosly, its not a good thing that he can't get to UnleashX dashboard... any ideas would be great.
He is very adament that he WAS able to get to the UnleashX dashboard... but then after returning was NOT able to and was greeted by the blank screen and orange eject button.
(btw: if it matters he only has the yellow/white RCA cables plugged in... not the red)
I did the UDDAE or whatever it is .... and then the xbox was UNplugged for 2/3 hours probably... hopefully thats not the cause because the guy and his xbox live a ways from my house and I really don't want to have to have him bring it back or something
Post by: Ndure protagonist on January 29, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
If not then, if you didn't choose the xonlinedash console install option, try triggering the UDDAE (from the MS dash) to launch the softmod instead...
Post by: kingroach on January 29, 2006, 09:11:00 PM
QUOTE(whenever @ Jan 30 2006, 03:22 AM)
Is the "Virtual disc" function removed from Version 3 installation?
With version 2.1 I am able to ftp an .iso file to xbox and use a special default.xbe to start the game but with version 3 installation I can't do this any longer. I managed to solve the issue by copying the bios.xbe of Version 2.1 back but then I lost the ability to boot to retail mode.
BTW, is there any easy way to edit the contents of shadowc.img file?
virtual disk function was never changed.. here is how someone got it working with nkpatcher_11..:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3165281
to get retail more working with Ndure 2.1 bios, just rename C:\xb0xdash.xbe to msxboxdash.xbe and you will be able to boot msdash with eject.
@JimmyGoon,
I believe that your friend's unleashx dash is somehow messed up.. you can still boot to Ms dash with eject button so that means Nkpatcher is working and you get Orange LED with power button which also means nkpatcher is working.. boot any boot disk with ftp access and copy unleashx dash in E:\dash\ folder.. I believe theres something happened with unleashx because if the dash was missing then Nkpatcher would boot into evox in rescue mode..
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 29, 2006, 09:19:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jan 30 2006, 05:18 AM)
virtual disk function was never changed.. here is how someone got it working with nkpatcher_11..:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3165281
to get retail more working with Ndure 2.1 bios, just rename C:\xb0xdash.xbe to msxboxdash.xbe and you will be able to boot msdash with eject.
@JimmyGoon,
I believe that your friend's unleashx dash is somehow messed up.. you can still boot to Ms dash with eject button so that means Nkpatcher is working and you get Orange LED with power button which also means nkpatcher is working.. boot any boot disk with ftp access and copy unleashx dash in E:\dash\ folder.. I believe theres something happened with unleashx because if the dash was missing then Nkpatcher would boot into evox in rescue mode..
grr.... that sucks. do you think theres any chance that the FTP portion is running? >_< thanks for all the help... I will have hm acquire a SC disk and try it out
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Jan 30 2006, 04:28 AM)
JimmyGoon, change the Xbox's time (via the MS dash) and see if that fixes it.
If not then, if you didn't choose the xonlinedash console install option, try triggering the UDDAE (from the MS dash) to launch the softmod instead...
I did use the xonlinedash thing so thats out. also how am I supposed to be able to get to the MS dash
?? thanks (sorry for the dbl post guys)
(((((((((( HOLY CRAP. THE FORUM COMBINED MY DOUBLE POST AUTOMAGICALLY!!!!!! SHWEET!!!!!!!!!! )))))))))))) sorry for the caps but thats amazing
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 30, 2006, 04:50:00 PM
it comes up with the yellow/orange light and no dashboard.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY IDEAS PLEASE TELL ME. I'm very very desperate. He has FTP access through Splinter Cell so if its something relativly minor he can fix it so bring it on.
Is there a possibility that Nkpatcher is having some kind of problem?
thanks (if any of you are willing to help troubleshoot or brainstorm on AIM please let me know... or IM me: jimmygoon or just leave your s/n)
Post by: Ndure protagonist on January 30, 2006, 06:24:00 PM
QUOTE
I did use the xonlinedash thing so thats out. also how am I supposed to be able to get to the MS dash
Oops, my bad, "XBL dash" hadn't sunk-in and I was thinking the regular dash was eject-booting!If the MS dash is still in the real-C then renaming (or deleting) /E/boot1.bin would switch to using it instead...
{= Fwiw, I expect the HULK-dash retail disc could be used to change the Xbox's settings via the xonlinedash console too. =}
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 30, 2006, 06:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Ndure protagonist @ Jan 31 2006, 02:31 AM)
Oops, my bad, "XBL dash" hadn't sunk-in and I was thinking the regular dash was eject-booting!
If the MS dash is still in the real-C then renaming (or deleting) /E/boot1.bin would switch to using it instead...
{= Fwiw, I expect the HULK-dash retail disc could be used to change the Xbox's settings via the xonlinedash console too. =}
sorry but what good is the MSDASH gonna do me???????
Post by: kingroach on January 30, 2006, 07:00:00 PM
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 30, 2006, 07:46:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jan 31 2006, 03:07 AM)
Its very unlikely that its nkpatcher issue but for being safe.. create another installation the installer and just copy bios.xbe to C:\bios.xbe and dash folder to E:\dash\ and also ndts folder to E:\.. and see what happens..
>_< no!!! that sucks. this guy like lives 1-2 away and I really don't want to a) make him do that
make him bring his xbox back ahhh >_< if he does I'll probably just Slayer it and then use Krayzie's installer >_< but for now I will continue the struggle... grrr...
Post by: kingroach on January 30, 2006, 08:18:00 PM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on January 30, 2006, 08:39:00 PM
QUOTE(JimmyGoon @ Jan 30 2006, 06:45 PM)
sorry but what good is the MSDASH gonna do me???????
The reason being, from what you said originally, the capacitor likely drained so maybe{?} the new Nkpatcher time setting feature is involved somehow.
{? I don't know if it could be, but if it is then resetting the time via the MS dash might fix it... ?}
Post by: JimmyGoon on January 31, 2006, 05:32:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jan 31 2006, 04:25 AM)
that is a possible fix.. tell him to return xbox to stock and remod it again.. Krazye's 1.1 has been released and thats preety noob proof so your friend could do that himself.. Otherwise I belive the mod is working correctly since all dual boot options are working..
the problem with that is... I have no idea what all the NDURE PC INSTALLER puts on there so I don't know what to tell him to delete. Further more I'm not prepared to torrent the entire Slayers Disc.... take out the C drive... zip it, upload it to my website and then have him download it >_<. So I'm trying to prevent that if at all possible.
I'll have him change the time tonight by delete eboot1.bin or whatever its called and then going to MS Dash. If that doesn't work I'll just have him bring it back.
Post by: JimmyGoon on February 01, 2006, 04:43:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on February 01, 2006, 06:11:00 PM
Post by: JimmyGoon on February 01, 2006, 06:32:00 PM
He copied some directories to the E:\ drive and rebooted and now it doesn't work.
It starts up and freezes at "UnleashX" and IT FREEZES ... and the yellow eject light is on
THIS IS DRIVING ME NUTS! Any ideas now. He checked the clock (again...) and nothing.
EDIT THAT: He checked EVERY setting and its all there.
EDIT2: According to this: http://www.xbox(INSERT A DASH HERE)hq.com/html/postp71169.html someone claims that Nkpatcher 11 is buggy. What version is NDURE INSTALLER using?
EDIT3: I just checked and according to kingroach's blog it IS using nkpatcher 11... is that the culprit? Also I hope this isn't against the rules but I modified the link about... the forum edited it for "Warez" but thats not what I'm linking to so I hope I don't get into trouble.
Post by: kingroach on February 01, 2006, 07:06:00 PM
if possible , tell him to replace unleashx dash with any other dash ( ava/evox).. if that doesnt do then replace the bios in C:\folder with the bios from Ndure 2.1 which is using NKpatcher 10..but if you do that you wont be able to switch xonlinedash/msdash..
Post by: JimmyGoon on February 01, 2006, 07:15:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Feb 2 2006, 03:13 AM)
NKpatcher-11 could be buggy.. and Ndure installer is using nkpatcher 11.. But I am not sure about bugs.. Nkpatcher 11 is running in all my mechines fine.. Krazy's beta test he also mentions problems in some boxes.. But he also never got any problems in his boxes. so nkpatcher could be the cause of problems since it happens to happen at random boxes..
if possible , tell him to replace unleashx dash with any other dash ( ava/evox).. if that doesnt do then replace the bios in C:\folder with the bios from Ndure 2.1 which is using NKpatcher 10..but if you do that you wont be able to switch xonlinedash/msdash..
ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
grr... ok
I know its not the dashboard... even though I will TRY something else ( it has worked before so why would it stop)
any other ideas in the meantime would be appreciated!
Post by: kingroach on February 01, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
Post by: JimmyGoon on February 01, 2006, 07:31:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Feb 2 2006, 03:26 AM)
other idea would be get the bios.xbe from ndure 2.1 and replace it in the C:\bios\ folder.. and rename C:\xb0xdash.xbe to C:\msxboxdash.xbe to have dual boot.. but xbox live dash wont work.
he doesn't care about that. I'm just gonna grab the ndure 2.1 c:\bios\xbe and then rename xb0xdash to msxboxdash
and that should get me (what kind of) dual boot? what about that boot1.bin file on the E drive?
thank you very much
Post by: kingroach on February 01, 2006, 07:38:00 PM
Post by: JimmyGoon on February 01, 2006, 07:44:00 PM
EDIT: same thing. stuck screen. rename xb0xdash.xbe to msxboxdash.xbe and then I renamed the C:\bios folder to C:\--bios and then I added the bios folder from ndure-2.1
same stuck screen but this time the eject button is green (but thats because of the old nkpatcher in 2.1 and the fact that it doesn't change the eject light)
Post by: kingroach on February 01, 2006, 08:13:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on February 04, 2006, 09:18:00 AM
http://mysite.verizo...her11_U02_k.zip
Post by: ver_arocena on February 10, 2006, 12:21:00 AM
I'm totally new to softmodding and was surprised to learn about these exploits.
NDURE for xboxhdm worked very well for me but I'm not sure I did everything correctly.
This is what I did:
1. Executed NDURE 3.0 for PC and installed it on an "EMPTY" folder on my PC (no retail dash)
2. I went for the custom install and check "ALL" the boxes except for "Create xboxhdm installer".
3. I then copied the C and E folder to the linux folder of xboxhdm and created the .iso image.
4. Booted xboxhdm and run xboxhd, recreated the partitions and formated C and E on /dev/hda.
5. I then fired xbrowser and copied the CD's C and E folder files to the appropriate C and E partitions.
6. Checked everything, locked HD and reinstalled HD on xbox.
7. UnleashX boots and everything looks fine except that I dont get any sound (maybe because of the missing Audio folder/files).
Problem is I cannot boot to msdash. I checked C drive using file manager but it has no files in it (maybe its shadow C). Tried other posts suggestion to copy retail xboxdash.xbe to shadowc(?) but I got error code 3, (cannot create etc). Also tried deleting shadowc.img but went to a blank screen after my reboot. But idea.
No choice now but to redo everything this evening.
Now this is what I am planning to do.
1. Copy "ALL files" except settings_adoc.xip of my original retail C drive to a E:\NDURE\C folder on my PC.
2. Do I need to delete the fonts folder or only its contents?
3. Run ndure and point it to E:\NDURE still with full option.
4. Remake the xboxhdm .iso image and add the new files from NDURE.
5. Boot xboxhdm, repartition and reformat xbox HD and copy C and E of CD to HD using xbrowser.
Hope someone can tell me if my procedure is correct especially with the fonts folder.
Do I need to copy or rename my original xboxdash.xbe to msxboxdash.xbe and put it in C:\
Also, what does "copy a retail dash to shadowc" mean? Does it mean original files to virtual C or to the shadowc folder?
Sorry for the long message and I hope that someone will have the patience to read it.
Thanks to all.
Post by: kingroach on February 10, 2006, 06:36:00 AM
QUOTE
Now this is what I am planning to do.
1. Copy "ALL files" except settings_adoc.xip of my original retail C drive to a E:\NDURE\C folder on my PC.
3. Run ndure and point it to E:\NDURE still with full option.
4. Remake the xboxhdm .iso image and add the new files from NDURE.
1. Copy "ALL files" except settings_adoc.xip of my original retail C drive to a E:\NDURE\C folder on my PC.
3. Run ndure and point it to E:\NDURE still with full option.
4. Remake the xboxhdm .iso image and add the new files from NDURE.
This is the correct steps.. You dont need to delete settings_adoc.xip yourself and dont need to delete fonts folder.. the installer will do that for you.. but no harm if you deleted yourself.. now you dont need to manually copy files with xbrowser.. if you used option "1" in xboxhdm optionit will recreate the HD using all C and E drive files.. However instead of going through all the troubles.. Just go to "ndts" folder in E:\ drive.. ( if you selected add Ndure toolset).. then just run default.xbe.. it will disable shadowc and then you can copy appropriate files for MS dash.. files needed for Ms dash are:
Audio
fonts
xboxdashdata.185ead00
xodash
Post by: ver_arocena on February 13, 2006, 12:38:00 AM
only problem now is that i have no audio with defaut dash (maybe because of the blank shadowc.img). is there any way to make a shadowc.img of the retails files? probably by linux dd command or any equivalent tool so that my virtual c will not appear empty.
kadepollack, i had the same problem before, as it turned out i did not include the retail dash files before running ndure installer. try to put it in a directory in your pc as stated in the readme and run ndure on it.
also, i find it easier to transfer files using xbrowser rather than the ndure script. no offense kingroach, the script works fine but i used xbrowser so that i can check if all the files were copied exactly as how they should be.
Post by: PatrikPatrik on February 20, 2006, 01:18:00 AM
image in the right place
Post by: jonels on February 21, 2006, 06:43:00 PM
Post by: radxrico on March 03, 2006, 05:38:00 PM
so i have a few newb questions i think.
ive always wanted to play some games via live. and have access to the free month things here and there. so this being modded + playing live is really exciting. ive never played live so heres my first question:
if my box is modded and i have the games on my hdd and not the disk i can still do live right? because theres an xbox live option in game blah blah blah? pretty sure thats right just making sure.
second: since my box is already modded with my games etc.. i dont need to start from scratch to do this do i? [currently using the mech assault soft mod with unleash x dash]
any help would be greatful. and a mini tutorial on how to add this feature if possible.
Post by: kingroach on March 03, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
you dont need to remod the whole thing.. Just copy the files in C and E drive.. and this mod uses unleashx so you done need to change your dash.
Post by: radxrico on March 03, 2006, 10:39:00 PM
Post by: 16 on March 03, 2006, 11:18:00 PM
Post by: radxrico on March 05, 2006, 03:11:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Mar 4 2006, 04:58 AM)
you cannt play gamnes from hd in xbox live.. you will only be able to play original game dvd's.
you dont need to remod the whole thing.. Just copy the files in C and E drive.. and this mod uses unleashx so you done need to change your dash.
so cant be a burned game either right? [just making sure]
Post by: kingroach on March 05, 2006, 08:57:00 AM
Post by: radxrico on March 05, 2006, 11:22:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Mar 5 2006, 05:04 PM)
no.. you can only play original games in xbox live..
awesome! cant wait to try it out.. anyone gotten banned yet? and if so does the banning go by like some kinda thing iny our xbox so you can NEVER use xbox live again there. or if u got a new like free 2 month thing could you do it again for awhile?
Post by: callmeX on March 08, 2006, 02:00:00 PM
I've come along this softmod thingy in order to run an iso from the hd.
So I jumped right into it, and grabbed this ndure installer.
I've run it with settings for full retail setup and have not chosen any kernel specific font,
as my retail dash reports kernel version 5003.
Copied files to hd and everything went of smoothly,
boot to unleashx and boot to retaildash.
Then started isoripper from driveimageutils and managed to rip the disk to the hd.
The log file created by isoripper shows no errors.
I've run the attach.xbe in order to mount the created iso to virtual cdrom drive,
but it always sent me back to my dash.
Then I've come along this post by xman954
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?sho...0&#entry3118360
and to the conclusion that this line
;%define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
as it is commented out by default, might aswell not be enabled in kingroach's installer.
Then I altered that line in the config.inc from nkpatcher10+ and
also changed the dashboard path to match kingroach's file structure.
After compiling and replacing the bios.xbe (I assume that's the file to change, not sure on this),
I wasn't able to boot to unleashx dash anymore.
Is my assumption correct, that virtual_cdrom_drive is not enabled?
And if so, could please someone point me into the right direction
what I've possibly done wrong while changing config.inc.
here's the path to dashboard I've used
%define DASHBOARD_PATH '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition1\dash\default.xbe'
maybe kingroach himself can post his config.inc, so I could have a look.
Thx for reading
cmx
Post by: jonels on March 08, 2006, 03:08:00 PM
Only thing I can think of as you seem to be able to understand the config.inc, making sure all the paths are correct.
Oh yeh (typing as i think so beware) if the shadow c: file shadowc.img is on the real c: drive then you need to change the real c: to partion 8 so you don't get nkpatcher trying to load the shadow c: image off the shadow c: drive. But i can't actually recall the exact way to configure it, try searching or someone else may help. This could also effect the virtual eeprom save file (eeprom.bin) location too.
Another reason for the drop-back to desktop could be the M$ dash settings concerning parental control (if you have an NTSC xbox) ..as this wouldn't affect you when in chip mode (if thats how your setup)
Also the default.xbe created in the same directory as the iso by isoripper should run the game.
This post has been edited by jonels: Mar 8 2006, 11:15 PM
Post by: kingroach on March 08, 2006, 03:21:00 PM
http://mysite.verizo...her11_U02_k.zip
Post by: jonels on March 08, 2006, 04:00:00 PM
Post by: callmeX on March 08, 2006, 04:32:00 PM
in the meantime I've got it working.
I started from scratch with the config.inc from nkpatcher10_xman.
Maybe there was a typo somewhere (I doublechecked for sure),
anyways, got it booting to dash finally, but still no luck with attacher.
I started changing more than one line at a time and got it working.
I have to narrow down which entry prevented it from launching later,
and will tell you my results.
I have that feeling that it has something to do with
;;; BOOT_DASH_ONLY = Don't boot DVD.
;;; NORMAL_BOOT_ALWAYS = Always boot first DVD then dashboard.
as the driveimageutils readme states:
QUOTE
Virtual disc attacher
---------------------
This is the file automatically created ...
...this automatically.
After attachement, this program will quick reboot the system. If the attached
ISO image contains a default.xbe in it's root directory, the kernel will execute
it as is usual. Running the attacher on game ISO images will therefore launch
the game.
---------------------
This is the file automatically created ...
...this automatically.
After attachement, this program will quick reboot the system. If the attached
ISO image contains a default.xbe in it's root directory, the kernel will execute
it as is usual. Running the attacher on game ISO images will therefore launch
the game.
cmx
Post by: kingroach on March 08, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
QUOTE
;;; BOOT_DASH_ONLY = Don't boot DVD.
;;; NORMAL_BOOT_ALWAYS = Always boot first DVD then dashboard.
;;; NORMAL_BOOT_ALWAYS = Always boot first DVD then dashboard.
this two line is about how nkpatcher will boot.. if its set to normal boot always then nkpatcher will look dvd first and if there is no dvd in drive then boot dashboard.. and the other option will boot dashboard regardless of dvd.. I never use virtual cd but from it.. it should create a default.xbe alongside with the .iso and default.xbe should boot teh dvd.. I will test virtual dvdv tonight and let you how what happened..
Post by: Tomdabomb3333 on March 09, 2006, 11:46:00 PM
should I redo the process and let the Ndure Auto Installer do the process for me?
Also had trouble making a ORIG_BACKUP. Said I didn't have enough space, went ahead with the install like I did before and it booted to an error 21.
HELP!!!!
Post by: Ndure protagonist on March 10, 2006, 09:59:00 AM
Correctly implemented Ndure 'retail' setups, aka dual-boot, have dependencies on dash 5960 (release 185EAD00).
You were wise by attempting to perform the backup first; some don't think to do that!
However, its failure indicated there was a problem (and just ignoring it has likely resulted in the subsequent issue).
{* I see that you've posted about this in at least two other places too (and advice is being given on how to overcome it)... *}
Post by: kingroach on March 10, 2006, 12:49:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on March 10, 2006, 04:33:00 PM
Post by: jonels on March 10, 2006, 07:21:00 PM
QUOTE(radxrico @ Mar 11 2006, 04:03 AM)
Post by: MajikNWA on March 10, 2006, 07:31:00 PM
Installed with XBHDM (blind, nervously!). Plugged box back in - success!!!! I'm loking at Unleash X.
However, on further investigation, there's some reasonably major problems - and I can't figure them out!
1) No MSDashboard (Unable to launch, cannot find file) , but I think thats related to number two:
2) Can't FTP tp C drive at all, and file explorer says it's empty! Nothing, nada, zip, devoid of info, a big ol space, if you shouted it would echo...You get the idea. When i try to FTP it gives me a 550 error in FlashFXP and SmartFTP. I can't mke folders, I can't do a thing! I can mess with E all I like though....
3) No F drive whatsoever. Says ) bytes - does it need formatting?
BTW - Kernal 5838, retail HDD.
Help!
Majik
Post by: jonels on March 10, 2006, 07:48:00 PM
QUOTE(MajikNWA @ Mar 11 2006, 04:38 AM)
Okay....here's a weird one.
Installed with XBHDM (blind, nervously!). Plugged box back in - success!!!! I'm loking at Unleash X.
However, on further investigation, there's some reasonably major problems - and I can't figure them out!
1) No MSDashboard (Unable to launch, cannot find file) , but I think thats related to number two:
2) Can't FTP tp C drive at all, and file explorer says it's empty! Nothing, nada, zip, devoid of info, a big ol space, if you shouted it would echo...You get the idea. When i try to FTP it gives me a 550 error in FlashFXP and SmartFTP. I can't mke folders, I can't do a thing! I can mess with E all I like though....
3) No F drive whatsoever. Says ) bytes - does it need formatting?
BTW - Kernal 5838, retail HDD.
Help!
Majik
1) you need to put a bolt standard M$ dash on c: (confused ? see 2)
2)Format c: (this is a shadow c: your real c: is hidden ...trust me, it's a safety feature)
3)yes
4)Stay away from slayers and get a copy of your eeprom.bin to your PC
Post by: MajikNWA on March 10, 2006, 08:10:00 PM
Formatted C, but no change - still won't let me FTP to it.
BTW - I have the retail dash sitting here waiting to go...
Majik
Post by: Tomdabomb3333 on March 10, 2006, 08:24:00 PM
im trying to get my hands on slayers 2.6 and it seems X-bins is down right now. Im going to try'n find it, and then hotswap the original M$ dash. Then try the softmod again....this time maybe the game expoit.
also had a question about where I should put the game save file if I hotswap....are they kept in the UDATA or TDATA folders?
Post by: radxrico on March 11, 2006, 01:11:00 AM
QUOTE(jonels @ Mar 11 2006, 03:28 AM)
Instructions are on the first page of this thread, with nice pics to follow.
yeah ive seen those i just dont know which step i need to do since all i want to do is make it so i can play live on modded xboxes.. i also checked his official site to try to find more info but its the same as the thread. also was trying to find a dload spot cuz xbins has been down for the past 10 hours ;/
Post by: flipper321 on March 11, 2006, 05:34:00 AM
however as always there is a question...!!
Is there any easy was to use a more recent version of nkpatcher? I need some of the more recent improved features (v8.1 or onwards) - how would I go about this..?
Post by: kingroach on March 11, 2006, 11:02:00 AM
but never thought this was the cause of popularity..
Post by: sco99 on March 15, 2006, 07:01:00 AM
This is my first post and my english isn't that good, so be 'gentle'
In this past week I've read lots of threads in some foruns I've discovered, since I've bought my brand new xbox last saturday. The thing is I want to put my 160gb samsung 8MB cache 7200RPM ATA hard drive into my console. As fasr as I discovered, I need to get eeprom.bin from my original hard-drive. To do that, and because I don't have a memory card, I need to do the hotswap thing, right? I already downloaded Ndure, created the Iso and burned it. My xbox is K:5838 and D:5960 so I think there wont be any problem, altough I read about some bugs along this thread but think they are all resolved.
1. Is it realy necessary to softmod my original hard drive? I would prefer to mantain it in original state?
2. My ndure 3.0.exe's creation date is 22.jan.2006 11:38 - Is this the last one? (I've downloaded it in emule. Xbins says that I have to be invited!!!
)3. I also downloaded Auto Installer Deluxe v3.0 from ** Links to Xbox Warez and Torrents **.com. Is it compatible with Ndure? It has lots of software that I want to install.
4. I'm going to run XBMC in every time i turn on my xbox and, from there, run games from dvd and Hard drive, play movies, music, etc. Maybe in the near future I'll register in xbox live and play some of my original games. I know that's possible but didn't understand the method. I want to register with my brand new hard drive. Is it ok?
5. Theres something that bothers me. ShadowsC is realy necessary? I read lots of post when people present problems with that. I think that it's important to do the dual boot thing, but isn't it bugy?
I think it's enough of newb questions
and forgive me for that. You know, this is the first time I'm going to do that and I realy want to be sure I don't mess up. As this is the forum that I liked most, I chose you to clear up my doubts. Thx in advance.Scorpyo!
Post by: kingroach on March 15, 2006, 05:52:00 PM
2. that should be the one.. the file size is about 14.2MB.. ( you could also download the file from the site you downloaded AID 3.0 from.. so check there)
3. I never used AID 3.0 or any other auto installer.. However, SID 4.5 ( is based on ndure installer) so it could be compatible but there is also potential to screw up softmod.. its best to download and install softwares manually..
4. yes you will have to register with teh new hard drive since XBL will allow only one hd per xbox,,
5. shadowc is not buggy.. you can always run your xbox without shadowc ( just uncheck the shadowc box).. People had some problems with shadowc but its actually fault of xboxhdm since it sometimes screws up file write permission.. so if you install with xboxhdm then just install mod without shadowc and then manually copy the shadowc file.. but mod will run fine without it.
Post by: sco99 on March 16, 2006, 06:46:00 AM
I can't do a softmod based in the gamesave exploit because I neither have a memory card nor one of the original games.
Maybe if the 1st thing I do is a backup of my /C, then I do all the process, reboot, ftp in, copy the eeprom.bin and after I make a new boot cd with eeprom.bin, I simply boot it in my pc, along with my xbox original hd, and restore my backup from E. Is that possible? Isn´t the process of softmod going to cleanup the /E, and therefore I loose all my files? Is it safe to do it and trust the backup on /E?
Another thing I didn't understand is why, in the hotswap faqs, they recomend to "setting the master password (It's important)". Is it realy necessary? I read somewhere in this forum, that someguy did it and after that he couldn't unblock the drive. It seems that he was using the wrong pass. I don't know.
One last question: When I have the boot cd with eeprom.bin, can I boot it with the new, unpartitioned 160gb hd and prepare it to xbox use? Is the boot cd the only thing necessary? If it is, I could then return my box's hd to it's original state.
Thanx one more time you guys. I knew this was a great forum!
Scorpyo.
Post by: sco99 on March 19, 2006, 01:13:00 PM
I softmoded my xbox and putted my 160gbHDD in it. It works but when I boot it with the tray open, I get one error saying to call technical help. I've already read about some error codes when doing that, but I receive a message. Do you knoy what this is?
With my original hdd it worked well. It also was capable of runniing backups from M$ dash when I booted with eject. Is this normal too?
One more thing: I want to return my original hdd to it's original state. I have my early /C backup. Is it enough just to copy it to /C and cleanup (completely) my /E, including TDATA and UDATA?
Thnx
Scorpyo
Post by: kingroach on March 19, 2006, 04:21:00 PM
Audio (folder)
xboxdashdata.185ead00(folder)
xodash
fonts
xb0xdash.xbe (file)
copy the "ndure toolset /ndts" folder from the installer to E:\ drive and run it to disable shadowc if you used shadowc to look up in real C.
for returning to unmodded state, just delete everything from C and copy your backup to C drive.. you could also delete everything on E beside UDATA and TDATA folder ( this two folder has the gamesaves).
Post by: ugenn on March 20, 2006, 02:54:00 AM
QUOTE(ugenn @ Mar 20 2006, 05:17 AM)
I have ndure3 successfully running on my NTSC/J 1.6 xbox.
Thanks to kingroach and all contributors. I do have some
questions though:
- I have shadowc support enabled. Presently, anything I try
to copy into the empty c: results in error x. Also, how
can I access my real c:?
- There's a directory in e: named ndts. What's this for?
- What safety measures does ndure have? Suppose I accidentally
delete the unleashx xbe, what happens?
- Not sure if this is caused or related to ndure, but when I
run xromwell and try to load a linux kernel, the system hangs
at the 'loading /linux/vmlinuz' line. Anybody else experiencing
this?
Thanks.
Sorry, the 'error x' should be 'error 3'.
Post by: kadepollack on March 20, 2006, 08:48:00 AM
will try to help ... but I am not an expert
- I have shadowc support enabled. Presently, anything I try
to copy into the empty c: results in error x. Also, how
can I access my real c:?
this is due to hotswapping. You should upload a new shadowc.img to your box to get rid of write protection.
- There's a directory in e: named ndts. What's this for?
this is where the ndure toolset lives. try running default.xbe from the e:ntds folder... you will see you are in "god mod mode" this is like the administrator account for ndure.
- What safety measures does ndure have? Suppose I accidentally
delete the unleashx xbe, what happens?
no idea
- Not sure if this is caused or related to ndure, but when I
run xromwell and try to load a linux kernel, the system hangs
at the 'loading /linux/vmlinuz' line. Anybody else experiencing
this?
no idea
sorry I couldnt be more help...
Post by: ugenn on March 20, 2006, 09:30:00 AM
QUOTE(kadepollack @ Mar 20 2006, 03:55 PM)
will try to help ... but I am not an expert
- I have shadowc support enabled. Presently, anything I try
to copy into the empty c: results in error x. Also, how
can I access my real c:?
this is due to hotswapping. You should upload a new shadowc.img to your box to get rid of write protection.
How do I create this shadowc.img? And how do I upload this to the proper location since I don't
have access the real c:?
QUOTE
- There's a directory in e: named ndts. What's this for?
this is where the ndure toolset lives. try running default.xbe from the e:ntds folder... you will see you are in "god mod mode" this is like the administrator account for ndure.
Will try. Thanks.
QUOTE
- What safety measures does ndure have? Suppose I accidentally
delete the unleashx xbe, what happens?
no idea
- Not sure if this is caused or related to ndure, but when I
run xromwell and try to load a linux kernel, the system hangs
at the 'loading /linux/vmlinuz' line. Anybody else experiencing
this?
no idea
I found out what the problem. xromwell freezes when it can't find the files to load. I had
an incorrect path in the config file. Yes, pretty stupid of me.
QUOTE
sorry I couldnt be more help...
Thanks, anyway.
Post by: kingroach on March 20, 2006, 03:01:00 PM
QUOTE
What safety measures does ndure have? Suppose I accidentally
delete the unleashx xbe, what happens?
delete the unleashx xbe, what happens?
if you delete the dash, then it will boot the dash in E:\ndts\ folder.
if you even delete "ndts" folder, it will boot into evox dash hidden into C drive.. and then if you still manage to screw up.. you could always boot boot dvd and fix any problem..
QUOTE
I have shadowc support enabled. Presently, anything I try
to copy into the empty c: results in error x. Also, how
can I access my real c:?
to copy into the empty c: results in error x. Also, how
can I access my real c:?
you can access your real C by running the the deafult.xbe in "ndts" folder. To upload a new shadowc, just delete shadowc.img in C:\shadowc\ folder. Then with Ndure installer just create a shadowc ( select add shadowc checkbox).. and upload the shadowc image in C:\shadowc\..
Post by: reeffreaker on March 20, 2006, 08:02:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on March 20, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
Post by: kadepollack on March 21, 2006, 02:22:00 PM
Here is the situation.
I have a softmodded box that is working 100% and have a larger drive installed.
The box I was working on, had a workign softmod, but the tray boot and ms dash option from unleash were broken. I thought this was easy to fix, so i replaced his shadowc.img and copied all the dash files to his real C.
(but not the settings_adoc.xip)
But now, now matter how I boot his box, it freezes on the MS logo screen.
I do have his HDD keys etc so I can unlock his drive and try to fix it... but I dont really know how to go about it.
What should I do?
My first impression is, use xboxhdm, unlock his drive, and put everythign that is on MY C drive onto his, then relock. would that solve the problem?
Post by: kingroach on March 21, 2006, 09:27:00 PM
Post by: beergutt on March 22, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on March 24, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
-----------------------------
few changes coming for ndure installer 3.1
xdk setup
easy switch between dualbooting xdk/xbl console/xboxdash without changing nkpatcher
modified xshell.xbe to use xboxdash on C drive with debug dash ( optional)
enable virtual cd/dvd within nkpatcher
and all the fixes in xboxhdm script
Post by: Ndure protagonist on March 25, 2006, 12:15:00 PM
CODE
Post by: jonels on March 26, 2006, 03:34:00 AM
Post by: ugenn on March 26, 2006, 03:45:00 AM
QUOTE(jonels @ Mar 26 2006, 10:41 AM)
@ugenn...Yes it does, it also advisable to put a gamesave in place and get the relative game (I got Splinter Cell for £0.99 with £1.50 delivery from e-bay)
I don't mean a retail game disc, but my own CD-RW burnt with a
dashboard (renamed to default.xbe). I tried burning unleashx to
CD-RW but it doesn't boot. And yes, the disc is readable by the
file manager.
Post by: A Murder of Crows on April 02, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
I run mainly from Krayzie's installer 1.1. I just got an x3ce, x3cp+lcd, and an x3ir.
i want to have Krayzie's Ndure Softmod running while chip enabled so that i can use the LCD, IR, and if possible, color/flubber changes.
Yes, i know having a mod chip and a soft mod on the same system is pretty much pointless for most practical uses, but i like the features NKPatcher does (ShadowC primarily), and since i install Krazyie's on all my friend's systems, i'd like to make sure that my system matches theirs as much as possible as far as hard drive setup.
I can't seem to get much help from anyone in figuring out 100% how to do this. from what i gather, NKPatcher patches the bios in memory....but since no one can give me a straight answer besides "That's pointless", i can't figure out if it would be possible to load the stock MS Bios onto the chip, boot the chip from that bank, and have NKPatcher do it's thing.
Would NDure/NKPatcher work this way (stock bios on chip)?
thank you
Post by: kingroach on April 02, 2006, 04:28:00 PM
Post by: A Murder of Crows on April 02, 2006, 07:17:00 PM
QUOTE(jonels @ Apr 2 2006, 04:54 PM)
Do newer mod-chips have an off mode, so the retail bios gets loaded for xbox live ? or is 1 of the banks flashed with retail as Kingroach suggested ? maybe a mod-chip user could en-lighten ?
Anyway, I guess it would be just a matter of editing the bios file on the mod-chip to avoid any clashing with the Ndure setup..ie dash boot paths
For me, the off mode doesn't work as i need the LCD screen enabled, and the LCD only runs when the chip is on....i also want the color changing options, but i can't find info about that being bios spesific or if it is built into the chip...
Post by: kingroach on April 02, 2006, 07:58:00 PM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on April 09, 2006, 02:48:00 PM
kingroach (and xman954) FYI; I was confirming the dash pathing recently and the /C/shadowc/resc didn't work for me ... I peeked at bios.xbe and noticed it had partition2 (instead of 8).
=}
Post by: xman954 on April 09, 2006, 08:04:00 PM
CODE
;-------------------------------------------
%ifdef ACTUAL_C_DRIVE
%define ACD ACTUAL_C_DRIVE
%else
%define ACD 1
%endif
;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
rescuedash1 db '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition',ACD+030h,'\rescuedash\default.xbe',0,0
rescuedash2 db '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\rescuedash\default.xbe',0,0
;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
%ifdef ACTUAL_C_DRIVE
%define ACD ACTUAL_C_DRIVE
%else
%define ACD 1
%endif
;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
rescuedash1 db '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition',ACD+030h,'\rescuedash\default.xbe',0,0
rescuedash2 db '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2\rescuedash\default.xbe',0,0
;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
it does look in two places (partition 2 and ACTUAL_C_DRIVE if used)
it looks more like the path is not setup the same as where the installer puts the rescuedash
originally it was set for Krayize's installer,but Kingroach changed it and added his clever boot1 trick to it
Post by: Ndure protagonist on April 10, 2006, 11:54:00 AM
Thanks xman954; instead of '\resc\default.xbe', this revision to kingroach's xboxapp.asm would presumably fix it then:
CODE
rescuedash1 db '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition',ACD+030h,'\shadowc\resc\default.xbe',0,0
^}
Post by: kingroach on April 10, 2006, 07:10:00 PM
Post by: xman954 on April 10, 2006, 09:39:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Apr 10 2006, 09:17 PM)
its set like this.. I guess I need to change the partition2 to partition8..
(ACD+030h) is 8
change both path's to what the installer uses
the 2nd one is if shadowC does not load...
Post by: xman954 on April 12, 2006, 08:43:00 AM
NKPatcher11_U02, it has everything needed to do this by just adding one file (E:\NKP11_config.bin)
comment out;
;;;%define TRAY_BOOT
you will have to change the path setting for your setup and run the make_config.bat file on your PC
Post by: mynickis1234 on April 21, 2006, 07:30:00 PM
First thanks for the installer. The problem I have is my C partition on a clean (no softmods) 8 Gig XBOX disk has 341 MB free. The C partition that your installer makes up is 364 MB. I want to do the retail boot option which I believe you need the shadowc.img file to be able to do that so that any live updates have a dummy file to update.
I read a post a 500 posts ago in 2005 pre NDURE 2.0 that said you were going to move the .img to the E partition because some people were having booting problems when the .img was on the C partition.
Just wondering what happened with that and why theres not an option in the 3.0 installer gui to move the .img to the E partition?
Is there a workaround to this? Any C parition files that aren't needed? Saw some config file changes you were playing with too for the E drive shadowc.img, will those changes work?
K 5101
D 5960
Thanks again
Post by: kingroach on April 21, 2006, 07:54:00 PM
moving .img files to E partition doesnt work that well since whole idea behind putting them in C drive is to fill up the C drive so that updates cannt be done..
Post by: kingroach on April 21, 2006, 08:56:00 PM
Post by: Ndure protagonist on April 22, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
I recommend you re-do the real C's installation, correctly, by either:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3346273 (if you have suitable ftp access)
or use this thread's first post's "3. Patching C drive files" method (and then replace your current real C with its).
Post by: Dolfhin on April 23, 2006, 10:00:00 AM
I was wondering if someone could explain to me why it doesnt boot my dashboard. I am using Nkpatcher 11 (Unofficial) and my dashboard is located in :
'\Device\Harddisk0\Partition1\dashboard\default.xbe' E:\dashboard\default.xbe
'\Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\dashboard\default.xbe' F:\dashboard\default.xbe
I have no problem booting with the tray open but booting with the tray closed does not work. I have checked these Xbes and they work fine, are patched with the right key. I am running NKpatcher from UnleashX after PBL loads the X2 bios. I dont think this makes any difference but I mentioned it just in case.
Post by: xman954 on April 23, 2006, 12:33:00 PM
QUOTE(Dolfhin @ Apr 23 2006, 12:07 PM)
I am running NKpatcher from UnleashX after PBL loads the X2 bios. I dont think this makes any difference but I mentioned it just in case.
BTW if using eject to run the retail MSdash then kernal Patching is bypassed
also see
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3369756
Post by: Dolfhin on April 23, 2006, 01:17:00 PM
QUOTE(xman954 @ Apr 23 2006, 07:40 PM)
most likly thats is the case if it just hangs...
BTW if using eject to run the retail MSdash then kernal Patching is bypassed
also see
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3369756
Ah, thank you it might indeed be the problem. I will test some more and give you the fine details.
Post by: Ndure protagonist on April 26, 2006, 10:18:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3346273
(That thread also indicates how to switch between the Eject boot being the XBL or regular MS dash.)
Post by: saravan on May 06, 2006, 09:42:00 AM
After I executed ndure in the xbrowser window, I was getting the following response
Part 1 of 3
Part 2 of 3
cp: /cd/ndure/c/media/* : No Such file or directory
cp: /cd/ndure/c/bios/* : No Such file or directory
Then I tried putting my original PGR 2 and booted the xbox. Game is working fine. But without game it is not booting up. Since I am new to mod, I dont even know what is the first screen I should get after the modding. PLS HELP.
Post by: Ndure protagonist on May 12, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
Here's an alternative method, that can be used successfully by anyone* and unlike the tut's 1st post and the one in this thread it guarantees* that Ndure 3.0 with MS 5960 dual-boot gets installed properly:
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3395658
(*If the tutorial's method is successful, there's enough free space on E, the ftp setup is suitable and the steps are performed correctly!)
Post by: Ndure protagonist on May 20, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=3346273
Post by: hotboi on June 12, 2006, 02:51:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on June 12, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on June 12, 2006, 05:29:00 PM
Post by: alyn on June 18, 2006, 11:30:00 AM
now i would like to use some roms but didn't see any emulator or place to put roms. how do i get roms up and running with this.
Post by: kingroach on June 18, 2006, 12:22:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on June 19, 2006, 02:31:00 PM
Post by: kgonepostl on June 19, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
Well I got a new xbox and I flashed the new eeprom up. problem is it doesn't boot. I revirginized my c partition and she boots fine. Once I install your installer though I get a black screen no error. I'm hoping you updated. I'm downloading 3.0 from xbins and hopefully the new iso I compile with xboxhdm fixes this whole mess.
Post by: kingroach on June 19, 2006, 06:10:00 PM
Post by: kgonepostl on June 19, 2006, 06:24:00 PM
QUOTE
yah thats fixed.. look fro the updated script on the ndure installer for xboxhdm tutorial.. ( stickied one thread later)..
Why isn't it in xbins?
Can I get it from your blog source? I think in your blog source it said 3.0 beta.
LEMME KNOW! Wasting a lot of coasters here
Post by: kingroach on June 19, 2006, 07:16:00 PM
http://www.360mods.net/VGA/ndure ( right click>save target as)
now create your usual setup with the installer and replace "ndure" file in xbox\ndure folder with the new one.. rest of the options is still the same..
Post by: kgonepostl on June 19, 2006, 08:28:00 PM
first happened with star wars battlefront 2 when it's updating I get some error and it couldn't update. Then my xbox pops up with an error 21. I can only boot games into live by having the game inside while booting.
I just installed it again now with my new xbox since my old one broke 5 months later. Anyway, well I install the installer and pop in counter strike. I get a dirty disc errror when live is trying to update. Aborts. I get an error 21 again and again I can only boot a game with it inside. Not a huge deal but I do like to get into my original dash when needed. Is there a reason it is doing this? It may not even be a problem on your side but w/e
/report.
Post by: kingroach on June 20, 2006, 05:22:00 AM
get the slayers disk, extarct ms dashboardd files from it.. in run E:\ndts\default.xbe, go to C drive. There should be a folder called xboxdashdata.du delete it and copy xboxdashdata.185ead00 folder to C.
Post by: kgonepostl on June 20, 2006, 10:15:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on June 20, 2006, 07:53:00 PM
Post by: jonels on June 22, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
Post by: skridsko on June 23, 2006, 01:53:00 AM
QUOTE(jonels @ Jun 22 2006, 11:06 PM)
Virtual drive is not enabled in this package. Kingroach did post his source files and config on @page 40 of this thread... you will need download it and edit the cfg file to enable 'virtual drive' and then recompile and sign the xbe. Then replace it with the one from the package.
Thanks for the tip. Apologies for repeating this question, didn't realise that someone asked the exact same question some pages back (it's a really long thread!). Just to make sure I'm going in the right direction, can I confirm the steps I should take:
1. Download Kingroach's nkpatcher zipfile
2. Uncomment the line in config.inc: %define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
3. Run make_nkp11.bat
4. Replace /C/bios/bios.xbe in my xbox with the newly compiled bios.xbe
While I'm at it, may I know what's the difference between the parameters in confic.inc and config_runtime.inc and what does the make_nkp11.bat batch file generate?
Post by: ugenn on June 24, 2006, 09:38:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on June 24, 2006, 10:36:00 AM
xboxdas.xbe
two fonts in C:\xodash\ folder
bios.xbe in C:\bios\ folder
dashboard in E:\dash\ folder
Post by: kingroach on June 25, 2006, 05:51:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on June 25, 2006, 07:24:00 AM
Post by: kgonepostl on July 01, 2006, 08:54:00 PM
Can you help me out?
Post by: kingroach on July 02, 2006, 04:14:00 AM
Post by: kgonepostl on July 02, 2006, 07:44:00 PM
Another thing. Can I just drop Slayers clean C on my F partition then drag and drop using the ndts when the time comes? I haven't tried this yet but I feel this is how it can be done.
Am I correct in all this? I really don't feel like gettin banne from live
Post by: kingroach on July 03, 2006, 06:39:00 AM
Post by: kgonepostl on July 03, 2006, 12:05:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on July 03, 2006, 12:20:00 PM
kgonepostl, place the file in E:\ drive ( root)
Post by: Buckhorn2 on July 03, 2006, 01:29:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on July 03, 2006, 03:43:00 PM
Post by: Epaige on July 03, 2006, 05:11:00 PM
QUOTE(Buckhorn2 @ Jul 3 2006, 06:16 PM)
i ran avalaunch,, when i put a original disc in it boots back to msdash and says disc error or not a game or dvd error disc not recognized.. the filemanger of both unleashx and avalaunch shows NO files in d drive when original disc is in there.
dvd2xbox will not read the original discs either.
any other ideas.
Wonder if itss you parental settings on MSDASH..But i doubt that cause backups load...I would almost bet its the dvd laser..Theres really nothing else that would cause this..Also are the origs all scratched up?
Post by: Halloween Jack on July 07, 2006, 09:01:00 PM
I know that it is important to back up the EEPROM file to my PC... just in case - but I can't find it anywhere - It sounds as if it is "hidden" - but how can I prevent from losing my beloved box??
Also, I am having problems getting XBMC to be the dash - all the shortcuts tutorials don't seem to work.
Thanks!
Post by: ugenn on July 12, 2006, 08:55:00 AM
on it and it says it doesn't have a valid signature.
- where does the exploitable dash look for the media files?
i have similar files in C:\media and C:\xodash\media.
Post by: kingroach on July 12, 2006, 09:44:00 AM
-exploit dash looks for media file sin C:\media\. The exploit dash is same as xonlinedash.xbe from 4920 dash. and looks for media files in the directory its in. Since you are using it in C root, thats why media files are in C;\ root.
Post by: ugenn on July 12, 2006, 10:13:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jul 12 2006, 03:51 PM)
-x2onlinedash.xbe is -habibi signed. Its used as a hacked xbox live dash.You can switch between default boot to x2onlinedash.xbe ( XBL dash) abd xb0xdash.xbe ( xbox dash) by placing boot1.bin file in E:\ drive.
which dash is x2onlinedash based on? won't that fail the
signature check since the box is in retail mode?
boo1.bin exists = x2onlinedash.xbe, not exist = xb0xdash.xbe, or the way around?
Post by: kingroach on July 12, 2006, 10:20:00 AM
QUOTE
boot1.bin exists = x2onlinedash.xbe, not exist = xb0xdash.xbe
correct.
Post by: ugenn on July 17, 2006, 07:49:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jul 12 2006, 04:27 PM)
x2onlinedash.xbe is based on xonlinedash.xbe. Its just hex edited to work with softmod. The .xbe uses an patch called FuckMS. What it does is boot a -habibi signed .xbe ( x2onlinedash.xbe) and bypass signature check. After the .xbe is loaded, it reverts back to retail state but by that time the .xbe is already loaded.
correct.
Ok, how does c:\xodash\x0nlinedash.xbe and c:\xodash\xonlinedash.xbe
fit into all this? I noticed that x0nlinedashx.xbe is the retail 5960's
c:\xodash\xonlinedash.xbe and c:\xodash\xonlinedash.xbe is the retail
c:\xboxdash.xbe. What's the deal?
Post by: kingroach on July 17, 2006, 07:57:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on July 17, 2006, 09:45:00 AM
Post by: kgonepostl on July 17, 2006, 10:09:00 AM
QUOTE
krayzie, I was referring specifically to the xboxdash.xbe's "Live Aware" interaction with XBL (as indicated by my first post above) and ONLY YOUR 1.1[...] INSTALLER hacks that. Consequently, other Ndure installers (including your 1.0) don't have this potential risk.
I suspect this aspect of XBL usage wasn't discussed/debated, as you stated you were unfamiliar with it when related questions arose in your installer's thread. It pertains to an XBL connection that occurs via the Eject boot, under certain circumstances.
Swithing the softmod off and/or reverting to retail would of course workaround it, but that's not a solution. The fix is to use the real MS xboxdash.xbe for the open tray boot (instead of the krayzie 1.1[...] hacked version), as per the other Ndure installers!
I suspect this aspect of XBL usage wasn't discussed/debated, as you stated you were unfamiliar with it when related questions arose in your installer's thread. It pertains to an XBL connection that occurs via the Eject boot, under certain circumstances.
Swithing the softmod off and/or reverting to retail would of course workaround it, but that's not a solution. The fix is to use the real MS xboxdash.xbe for the open tray boot (instead of the krayzie 1.1[...] hacked version), as per the other Ndure installers!
I beleive this is why I was banned and need to know if I'll run into this same problem using your installer or does it use a different (less susceptable) xboxdash.xbe
Thank you kingroach.
Post by: kingroach on July 17, 2006, 10:17:00 AM
.. its probably right before uploading to xbins, I changed a word or two in the nkpatcher source.. but both of them works the same. The difference between both files are .02 byte..Is there anything wrong with the bios ndure installer installed?..
Post by: ugenn on July 17, 2006, 12:04:00 PM
I get an error 21. (i can get the retail dash w/o
boot1.bin though).
Post by: kingroach on July 17, 2006, 12:16:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on July 17, 2006, 12:40:00 PM
Post by: ugenn on July 17, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
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Post by: kingroach on July 18, 2006, 07:01:00 AM
you seem to missing "Media\Content\TChinese\twroc.dic" file. Other than everything looks good. Try deleting xodash\media\ folder and copy a fresh media folder from 5960 xboxdash's C:\xodash\ folder.
Post by: SephirothTNH on July 23, 2006, 03:40:00 AM
Thanks, and sorry if these are nube questions; I've only had an xbox for about a week.
Post by: kingroach on July 23, 2006, 10:47:00 AM
All the gamesaves are E:\TDATA and E:\UDATA folder. There are bunch of folder with different names like "1cd12235". Every games have their different folders. You can check in unleashx gamesave menu to see what gamesaves is in what folder.
Post by: blaron on July 27, 2006, 12:52:00 PM
.Anyway, I have been reading for days now, but I can't find my answers anywhere. I hate to use a link to another site, but I don't know how else to ask my question without doing so. I used this method to softmod my xbox, but I want to change to Ndure, and I don't know how to go about doing it. Do I need to delete my C drive and replace it with the one Kingroach's installer created, or just replace files? I'm at a loss here. Someone please help
.P.S. I know how to FTP into my xbox. I even have a rescue disk in case I mess up.
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 12:58:00 PM
Post by: blaron on July 27, 2006, 01:57:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jul 27 2006, 02:05 PM)
Do you want to have dual boot and xbox live? or just use normal softmod.
Dual boot and xbox live, please.
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 02:17:00 PM
Post by: blaron on July 27, 2006, 03:14:00 PM
C:\Audio\
C:\fonts\
C:\xboxdashdata.185ead00\ (includes settings_adoc.xip)
C:\xodash\
C:\xboxdash.xbe
Also, my settings_adoc.xip file is 4.1 Megs. So I just delete it? Not replace it with something else?
In my C folder on HDD, I have a xboxdash.bak at 1,916 KB and a xboxdash.xbe at 1,872 KB. Seems to me like xboxdash.bak is the correct file, and was patched to become xboxdash.xbe. Is this correct?
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 03:15:00 PM
Audio ( folder)
fonts ( folder)
xodash (folder)
xboxdashdata.185ead00 (folder)
xboxdash.xbe
place the files in a folder called C and as a output folder in ndure installer select teh folder that has C folder. Then as I mentioned above, delete everything on C and copy C folder contents on C drive. just make earnie.xtf was copied before xbox.xtf ( ftp clients usually copy by alphabetical order so its usually copied first).
Softmods dont need TSOP/bios. It uses nkpatcher which on the fly patches the kernel. So all softmods can use the same nkpatcher ( kernel patcher) which is in C\bios\ folder called bios.xbe.
Since you have a eeprom reader you are out of any danger. If you mess up you can always unlock the hd with eeprom and have full access to hard drive. Also if you want to revive the other xbox you can also make a new hard drive with the eeprom.
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 04:37:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 06:07:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on July 27, 2006, 08:17:00 PM
Post by: blaron on July 28, 2006, 12:57:00 PM
QUOTE(blaron @ Jul 27 2006, 09:07 PM)
...I can't fit the whole 336 Meg Shadow image. It stops at 172 Megs, leaving 320 KB of free space...
I figured out why I can't fit the 336 MB file on my C drive. It seems my C drive is only 335.95 MB in size. Is that normal?
Also, my xbox hdd has "X", "Y", and "Z" partitions, all three empty and 749.89 MB in size. Do you know what those are for, and if we can use those partitions to maybe store things like music or pictures, then build a shortcut to get to them through UnleashX? Just a thought. Seems like a waste of 2.25 Gigs of space to me.
Post by: kingroach on July 28, 2006, 02:15:00 PM
Make a file called shadowC_off.bin and place it in E drive and reboot, shadowc will be disabled ( untill you keep the file there)..
Post by: kingroach on July 28, 2006, 03:02:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on July 29, 2006, 08:33:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on July 29, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
. if you have any recent games you can get a fresh dash using dashupdate.xbe. Get fonts folder and Audio folder from C drive. Now delete shadowc_off.bin file. So, on reboot you will have shadowc enable. Copy Audio and fonts folder in the shadowcx and copy dashupdate.xbe and it will unpack a new ms dash in teh shadowc.
Post by: blaron on July 29, 2006, 05:38:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on July 29, 2006, 06:07:00 PM
Post by: ugenn on September 03, 2006, 12:16:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jul 17 2006, 04:24 PM)
yup you are right..
.. its probably right before uploading to xbins, I changed a word or two in the nkpatcher source.. but both of them works the same. The difference between both files are .02 byte..Is there anything wrong with the bios ndure installer installed?..kingroach, i just realised something. the bios.xbe from the
e:\ndts directory does not support CD booting. is it intended
to be this way?
Post by: kingroach on September 03, 2006, 06:42:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on September 04, 2006, 08:21:00 AM
you can change the option with runtime config option.
Post by: quickline on September 05, 2006, 09:06:00 PM
I tired ndure and I am amazed! One thing though.. I am attempting to install a 250gb hard drive. How do I make it so "F gets all, no G"?
Quite urgent, help is appreciated.
Thanks
Post by: kingroach on September 05, 2006, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: quickline on September 05, 2006, 09:22:00 PM
Another question.. I have a 1.6, will I suffer any losses because of this?
Post by: violent crayon on October 06, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
i have the partitions enabled in the config.xml and I used the .67 nkpatcher, any ideas why it's not seeing the G part and the F appears blank?
Post by: adidasflyguy on November 12, 2006, 06:13:00 AM
Is there anything special I need to do? I tried just replacing e:\dash\default.xbe with xbmc but when i boot up the xbox it start and a second later restarts, waits, restarts, waits, restarts....
Let me know, thanks!
-Paul
Post by: adidasflyguy on November 12, 2006, 09:14:00 AM
now i'm trying to figure out when i boot by pressing the eject button the default ms dash doesn't seem to be comming up, after the logo screen it's just black
Post by: Oen386 on November 15, 2006, 04:39:00 PM
What am I doing wrong?
When I do just the base files, and don't transfer ShadowC, the Xbox appears to boot, but just goes to a black screen and sits.
Lastly the light is Orange.
Post by: kingroach on November 17, 2006, 09:20:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on November 21, 2006, 10:22:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on November 25, 2006, 08:52:00 AM
Post by: Oen386 on November 29, 2006, 03:22:00 PM
Where I can setup my account or network.
... not sure if this is a sign it worked, or nothing happened. LOL
Post by: kingroach on November 29, 2006, 06:01:00 PM
Post by: Deathinatesttube on December 05, 2006, 04:33:00 AM
Post by: kingroach on December 05, 2006, 05:57:00 AM
/XBOX/Console Based Applications/exploits/_Packages/Kingroachs Installer
go to xbox-scene.com ( main page) and check the tutorial section on how to connect to xbins.
Post by: kingroach on December 09, 2006, 06:39:00 PM
Post by: kingroach on January 09, 2007, 07:51:00 PM
CODE
%define NKP_LED_COLOR ORANGE ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define ALTDASH_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define PATCHBACK_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define TRIBOOT_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define ALTDASH_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define PATCHBACK_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define TRIBOOT_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
change the first option to GREEN. Run the file make_runtime.bat (first delete nkp_config.bin file). This will createa new config file. Just drop the file in E:\ drive. Or you can compile a new bios by changing config file and replacing the bios file in C:\bios\ folder. ( to see real C, you need to run E:\ndts\default.xbe file)..
Post by: wilho on January 13, 2007, 03:29:00 AM
What bios is included in ndure installer? Is it changeable? Should it work fine with larger HD's? Is there other things which could cause instalbility?
Post by: kingroach on January 13, 2007, 07:23:00 AM
Post by: LegendaryXM90 on January 14, 2007, 11:38:00 AM
Post by: xman954 on January 14, 2007, 12:15:00 PM
QUOTE
Ok, I need a question answered. Does this involve opening your Xbox or computer AT ALL, because you mentioned nothing about either of those two and said a lot about burning CD's.
if you use a gamesave and FTP then NO need to open anything...otherwise YESuse a gamesave installer.......
Post by: xman954 on January 14, 2007, 12:26:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jan 9 2007, 10:58 PM)
download the latets nkpatcher from here:
http://www.esnips.co...11_U03_vga10_KB
extarct it, you will find a file called config_runtime. Open the file with notepad. Look at this section:
CODE
%define NKP_LED_COLOR ORANGE ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define ALTDASH_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define PATCHBACK_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define TRIBOOT_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define ALTDASH_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define PATCHBACK_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
%define TRIBOOT_LED_COLOR GREEN ; < CHANGE IT HERE
change the first option to GREEN. Run the file make_runtime.bat (first delete nkp_config.bin file). This will createa new config file. Just drop the file in E:\ drive. Or you can compile a new bios by changing config file and replacing the bios file in C:\bios\ folder. ( to see real C, you need to run E:\ndts\default.xbe file)..
in this version (VGA10) the file need to be in E:\NKP11\ (look at the read me)
QUOTE
* CHANGED location of config files to E:\NKP11\ shadowC_off.bin, eeprom_off.bin, NKP11_config.bin
NKP11_config_open.bin, and boot1.bin (using king boot mode)
NKP11_config_open.bin, and boot1.bin (using king boot mode)
Post by: kingroach on January 15, 2007, 12:54:00 PM
you cant download splinter cell that works for softmod.. you have to buy one if you want to do gamesave exploit.
Post by: Januse on March 06, 2007, 01:57:00 AM
i want to ask some question. I tray intstall softmod with ndure installer for pc ower hboxhdm. I create backup but i dont make a copy to cd. And now after all instalion i have this:
i boot xbox unleashx, ftp in and in backup directory E\backup i can't find eeprom.bin file.
I try get this file with ConfigMagic but this program don't want to work. Maybe it's problem in virtual c and virtual eeprom:(
So, it is any posibility to get eeprom without one time more hotswap?
Post by: wellmodded on May 09, 2007, 08:50:00 PM
i have exprience using XBOXHDM
Post by: wellmodded on May 10, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
if not can soem point me the direction to a tut that can tel u how u ftp between computer and xbox that has stock msdash and everythink
Post by: kingroach on May 10, 2007, 07:13:00 AM
Post by: wellmodded on May 12, 2007, 09:31:00 AM
Post by: wellmodded on May 12, 2007, 05:23:00 PM
this option is nudre is
default boot xonlinedash console ??
does that mean the xbox OEM dash board boots 1st
Post by: JoeUser38 on June 11, 2007, 02:36:00 AM
I plan on using Xboxhdm 1.9 with Ndure 3.0 on the 500GB. Can anyone tell me what problems I might encounter (hopefully with solutions)? I understand I'll need to format any partition larger than 137GB with 32K blocks, and Xboxhdm does not do this? Or has this since been fixed? Will I need to create the partition in Xboxhdm and then do the formatting with a program on the Xbox (which would you recommend... I have various install disks that I believe have partitioning and formatting tools, and of course there's "the usual places")?
Also, what is the best partitioning scheme? Not sure what the largest partition size allowed with LBA48 on the Xbox, and most threads I've been finding are very outdated... Will I need to create both a F: and a G: partition, and even if I don't, is there an advantage to doing it that way? Would there be any advantage to making E: larger also (say for the cache directory), or would M$ send the cops after me if I did so?
Oh, and I think I already know the answer to this, but would you recommend me replacing the NKPatcher in the NDURE 3.0 with NKPatcher v11-U04 (I think that is the latest)?
Thanks in advance!
Post by: kingroach on June 11, 2007, 07:34:00 AM
Then install xbpartitioner and using 32K clustter format 247GB F drive and 245GB G drive.. You can also all 500GB F drive but chances are it will get corrrupt at the end.
If you can you can install the nkpatcher 11_U04.. Rename the nkpatcher file you compile to bios.xbe and copy that to C:\bios\ folder..
Post by: JoeUser38 on June 11, 2007, 12:36:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 11 2007, 09:10 AM)
First you should just create a basic harddrive.. when xboxhdm asks you to format F drive, type no. After you boot to unleashx on new harddrive, first backup everything from E drive to your computer.. Format the E drive using unleashx and copy back the contents of E drive ( you will still have ftp access).. This is because xboxhdm sometimes corrupts E drive creation and you will get problems saving games.
Then install xbpartitioner and using 32K clustter format 247GB F drive and 245GB G drive.. You can also all 500GB F drive but chances are it will get corrrupt at the end.
If you can you can install the nkpatcher 11_U04.. Rename the nkpatcher file you compile to bios.xbe and copy that to C:\bios\ folder..
Thank you! Exactly the kind of information I needed, especially the reformatting of drive E:. And it sounds like I'll definitely want to create F: and G: drives to be safe. So other than what you've mentioned, follow the "standard" instructions for your NDURE installer?
BTW, any plans for an NDURE 3.1 with the "latest and greatest" NKPatcher? And is NKPatcher still "the way to go" as far as soft-mods are concerned, or is there a better route to go now?
Oh, a suggestion: Any chance of updating your Xboxhdm tutorials with the information needed for todays larger hard disks? Or did you, and I just missed it?
Post by: kingroach on June 11, 2007, 07:54:00 PM
xboxhdm guide hasnt been updated in ages.. so you didnt miss anything.. I will probably update the guides when I submit ndure 3.1 in xbins..
Post by: JoeUser38 on June 15, 2007, 07:15:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 11 2007, 09:10 AM)
First you should just create a basic harddrive.. when xboxhdm asks you to format F drive, type no. After you boot to unleashx on new harddrive, first backup everything from E drive to your computer.. Format the E drive using unleashx and copy back the contents of E drive ( you will still have ftp access).. This is because xboxhdm sometimes corrupts E drive creation and you will get problems saving games.
Then install xbpartitioner and using 32K clustter format 247GB F drive and 245GB G drive.. You can also all 500GB F drive but chances are it will get corrrupt at the end.
If you can you can install the nkpatcher 11_U04.. Rename the nkpatcher file you compile to bios.xbe and copy that to C:\bios\ folder..
OK, I got the drive up and running in the Xbox... however, I just noticed you said to use 32K clusters. When I used XBPartitioner I kept hitting "A" until it showed me the F: and G: partitions split evenly, and I formatted with that. However, I believe I saw it say it was using 16K clusters. From what I've been reading, XBPartitioner only auto-selects 32K clusters on >250GB or so partitions? And the information I've been reading online has been contradictory on whether or not you need 32K clusters above 256GB, or if it's needed above 512GB... So, am I going to get corruption on these partitions if I don't reformat with 32K clusters or not?
BTW, instead of FTPing the E: drive to my computer, re-formatting E:, and FTPing back, I copied E: to F:, formatted E:, and copied back from F:. Figured it'd be faster. I did this from the AID Deluxe 4.01 disk (it has XBPartitioner on it, too).
Post by: JoeUser38 on June 15, 2007, 08:05:00 AM
QUOTE(JoeUser38 @ Jun 15 2007, 08:51 AM)
... And the information I've been reading online has been contradictory on whether or not you need 32K clusters above 256GB, or if it's needed above 512GB... So, am I going to get corruption on these partitions if I don't reformat with 32K clusters or not?
...
Sorry, wouldn't let me edit. Meant to say I've been reading contradictory info on if 32K clusters are needed above 137GB, or above 256GB.
Post by: kingroach on June 16, 2007, 06:50:00 AM
Post by: JoeUser38 on June 16, 2007, 11:30:00 AM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Jun 16 2007, 08:26 AM)
if your partition is over 250+ GB then its better to have 32K clusters.. but under 250Gb it doesnt make much difference..
Good news. Both are just under 250GB. With 16K clusters, I'll lose less space in the slack area of the files, so I prefer it that way anyways.
BTW, with nkpatcher, which options are overiden when setting "KINGROACH_NDURE" (or whatever the define was... not on the computer, typing on my phone)?
Post by: kingroach on June 16, 2007, 02:50:00 PM
Post by: Contillion on August 14, 2007, 07:36:00 PM
I patched my C drive using the BASIC setting, which works as advertised. I would like to change my install to RETAIL since I need to access the Xbox Dashboard to change my system settings (need to enable 5.1). What do I need to do in order to do that? Reason I ask is because I ran the installer again on a backup of my original C drive except this time used the RETAIL profile. When I tried to upload those files over to the C drive on my Xbox, it wouldn't let me copy over some of the files like shadowc.img, the xboxdashdata folder, and a couple others.
Am I doing this right? I noticed that there is now an H drive that has pretty much everything that I copied over to the C drive when I originally did the patch - would I need to update those files?
BTW - is UnleashX required for a softmod, or could I change the dash to EvolutionX or XBMC? Would I just need to update e/dash/ with the appropriate files?
Thank you
Post by: kingroach on August 15, 2007, 05:45:00 AM
you can use any dash you want... just replace files under E:\dash\ folder.
Post by: Contillion on August 15, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
QUOTE(kingroach @ Aug 15 2007, 01:21 PM)
if you copied shadowc.img file in your first softmod attemt then you have shadowc enabled.. you dont need to change the softmod to get ms dashboard.. you can just copy fresh C drive ( from slayers etc) to the shadowc drive and run msdash from there.
you can use any dash you want... just replace files under E:\dash\ folder.
How do I get to the shadowc drive? When I FTP into my box, is the C drive that I see there the shadowc drive, because I see nothing there in that drive?
If so, I would just need to extract the fresh C drive from the Slayers disk, which includes these files:
[Audio]
[fonts]
[xboxdashdata.185ead00]
[xodash]
Xbox Book.xtf
Xbox.xtf
xboxdash.xbe
and FTP them over to that C drive? Sorry if this seems elementary, but I'm new to the softmod world, so I'm not terribly familiar with the vernacular.
Thanks again.
Post by: kingroach on August 15, 2007, 06:37:00 PM
Post by: Contillion on August 15, 2007, 09:14:00 PM
Post by: Contillion on August 19, 2007, 07:53:00 PM
[Audio]
[fonts]
[xboxdashdata.185ead00]
[xodash]
eeprom.bin
Xbox Book.xtf
Xbox.xtf
xboxdash.xbe
I went back into MS Dash, changed the settings and rebooted, but they did not keep. Any ideas how to resolve this?
Post by: kingroach on August 20, 2007, 07:33:00 AM
Post by: Contillion on August 22, 2007, 11:43:00 PM
Post by: GregToR on December 01, 2007, 08:41:00 PM
I used to work with Softmod Installer Deluxe 5.01 and Auto Installer Deluxe 4.12,
but since playing ISO games from hdd was not possible with that software I switched to Kingroachs Ndure Installer,
but I have some questions - comments:
first of all an annoying bug:
- when freshly ftp'ed, network is set to DHCP, so when I change it to Static and configure ip to 192.168.0.2 & reboot, the ip is after reboot 192.168.0.100... so have to adjust it again, and reboot again!? quite frustrating...
- in the standard UnleashX dash the fan is very loud, even louder than 20%, so I check and put treshold to 45C and fan speed is set to 1x, but still remains that loud?!
- as I read in this thread it's normal that files of C are not visible when Retail is chosen, why's that?
in SID5.01 & dual boot (MS dash and EvoX/XBMC) it's also with shadowc.img, but the C files remain visible (I think only those softmod files like shadowc.img etc. are invisible), cause this makes the menu entry MS Dash useless (since XBox says then can't find necessary files...),
- I went from my old softmod to Ndure like this: made the patched C and E files with installer, deleted my C and E files, ftp'ed them (didn't work at first, files could not be transferred, so I used Restore C with files in E:backup),
but my question now is, do I have to install Ndure Retail also in install menu of UnleashX (E:ndts/default.xbe)? and what does activate Ndure do (necessary?)? and what about nkpatcher settings: 'use nkpatcher.67 w...' ? also for nkpatcher.67 there are 2 entries: they both end with 'w'... so I don't know what the difference is between them?
I used AID4.12 to format my hdd, does that go in conflict with this Ndure softmod?
any info/help very much appreciated,
thanks in advance
,Kind regards!
Post by: GregToR on December 01, 2007, 08:59:00 PM
I just have to install the unmodified C files on the shadowC invisible C (therefore appearing empty drive)?
so I've first ftp'ed the C and E files made by the Ndure installer, then when in softmod dash C shows no files (invisible because of shadowC), I ftp the standard unmodified C files so I can use MS dash too? correct?
derived that from this post, if I understand it correctly: http://forums.xbox-s...p;#entry3346273
and running nkpatcher.67 is to enable G drive (6=F, 7=G), do I have to re-format it after that? can I use AID4.12 for that?
still don't know what the difference between those 2 'use nkpatcher.67 w...' entries are... anyone?
and please check if you know the answers to my previous questions in earlier reply...
thanks!
Post by: GregToR on December 01, 2007, 11:16:00 PM
in AID there's an option to 'Unmount Virtual C' after which you can uninstall its softmod,
but when I want a fresh install of a softmod I just format C and D,
in that case everything's gone right, so no need to 'Unmount Virtual C' first?
a format wipes everything clean, right?
the fact that the fan runs louder now (in UnleashX dash and everywhere else outside XBMC (in XBMC I configured it to just keep it at max. 45C, so it's silent there), is that because of the UnleashX dash (and its settings?), if it can't be changed I'm definitely going to change it to EvoX or XBMC dash...
thanks,
Regards
Post by: kingroach on December 02, 2007, 08:33:00 AM
QUOTE
I just have to install the unmodified C files on the shadowC invisible C (therefore appearing empty drive)?
so I've first ftp'ed the C and E files made by the Ndure installer, then when in softmod dash C shows no files (invisible because of shadowC), I ftp the standard unmodified C files so I can use MS dash too? correct?
so I've first ftp'ed the C and E files made by the Ndure installer, then when in softmod dash C shows no files (invisible because of shadowC), I ftp the standard unmodified C files so I can use MS dash too? correct?
Thats correct. C drive files are not visible because shadowc is activated. Normally the installer copies the original C drive files in in shadowc ( if you are using the xboxhdm installer). Otherwise, you need to copy the C drive files to shadowc ( the empty C after softmod is installed).
you shouldnt need to format the drives again if you choose nkpatcher .67. As you said .67 is for F and G drive and .06 is for F drive only.
Post by: GregToR on December 02, 2007, 10:01:00 AM
QUOTE
I made FAN.BIN for all values from 10%-100%. Download it here:
http://www.esnips.co...c65c660c650/fan
http://www.esnips.co...c65c660c650/fan
but what about those 2 entries in ntsp/default nkpatcher.67 menu, what's the difference between those two (since the titles are both only till 'w...')?
much appreciated, awesome...
now I can play certain backups from ISO on hdd which don't work in file-mode,
so my dvd-drive can safe it's energy
& hopefully will last longer
Post by: GregToR on December 02, 2007, 10:30:00 AM
so I went into System Settings and went from 1x to 1,5x and after saving it went silent?!
looks like it does not respond if set to 1x (if I set it to 4x or so, then go to 1x, nothing happens,
if I go to 1,5x it goes more silent, but I wouldn't go lower than 1,5x, so it's fine now)
one more inconsistency: in the File Explorer of the UnleashX menu of E:/ndts/default.xbe I don't have G partition, and if I load XBMC from there, also no G?!
(tried installing nkpatcher.67)(in UnleashX dash of E:/dash/default.xbe I have the G drive (also visible in XBMC if loaded from there)
is that normal?
thanks,
take care &
Regards!
Post by: GregToR on December 03, 2007, 08:02:00 PM
when I tried to format G, nothing happened (I think...),
G was still not seen in File Explorer of the Toolset UnleashX menu,
then I formated the F drive... now it's 186thousand MB big... (it's a 200gb drive),
but it should have stayed a max. 120gb partition with rest to G (nkpatcher.67)...
when I check outside toolbox, like in XBMC, the F is empty but still under 120gb
and the G is the rest, untouched by the formatting in the Toolset menu...
this can't be healthy?
the NKP11 folder is empty (except for the fan.big file that I've put in it)?
is that normal?
(when I install nkpatcher.67 in menu of Toolset, it goes like super fast, can't see what it copies...)
I've installed Kingroach's Ndure 3.1 Retail, with Kernel selected,
and dual boot (retail ms dash with eject)
anyone?
Post by: Movax on December 03, 2007, 08:18:00 PM
Post by: GregToR on December 04, 2007, 01:14:00 AM
but I thought it's always better to not go over 120gb...
so for 180gb partition are standard clusters ok? or should I use 32kb clusters?
never used XBpartitioner, loaded it once, but looked too complicated and haven't looked into it yet...
what is the de-activation and activation of Ndure in Toolset for? to disable and enable the softmod?!
if I choose activate I get error 'Batch process failed... rename' or something?
I'm very thankful for the unleash dash that's standard in Ndure!
updated it to v0.39, it's menu outlay isn't as practical as EvoX, and it sure has some bugs I think (with fan settings & when u change IP), but I get network speeds of over 11mb/sec (mostly around 10,5mb/s)!
while EvoX and XBMC are mostly around 8,5 or 9mb/s...
is that because of the 'boost' feature of UnleashX ?
can the Ndure-3.1 installation (Kingroach) by ftp be done without losing files on F and G?
(xboxhdm does not work with my pc, after it boots it can't find dvd-drive, like in this thread: http://forums.xbox-s...;#entry4164484)
because after I installed it F and G were empty, and I don't remember formatting those?
Post by: kingroach on December 04, 2007, 06:58:00 AM
Post by: GregToR on December 04, 2007, 05:14:00 PM
but not in the 'Toolset' menu (E:ndts/default.xbe), there only 1 big F partition and no G?!
can you just confirm that I'm doing everything right (this is for v1.0 with kernel 4034 & 200gb hdd):
1st - I put the C folder (with standard MS files of a XBox from 2005) in the Ndure folder,
2nd - I start Ndure-3.1.exe in which I select Retail with options: nkpatcher.06 (for hdd till 200gb) & my Kernel,
3rd - I ftp the by Ndure modified C and newly created E to freshly formatted C & E of the XBox,
4th - reboot and copy the standard unmodified MS C partition files (of an 2005 XBox) to the C (that appears to be empty because shadowC.img and the true C is only visible from inside the UnleashX Toolset in ndts)
then I format the F drive (with the menu of UnleashX),
et voila, softmod installed and everything running
(I don't need to install or apply anything from inside the 'Toolset' UnleashX (E:ndts) menu?)
but I did replace the UnleashX dash that Ndure uses in E:dash, since it's v0.38,
and the UnleashX dashboard I copied from Auto Installer Deluxe is v0.39...
is there a way to update the one of the Toolset too (in E:ndts)? which files may be replaced to do so?
I'm going to switch to Ndure with my v1.6 Crystal 250gb Xbox too, only changes for that are different Kernel and I will not select nkpatcher.06 in Ndure setup, since I want 2x 120gb for F and G,
so am I doing everything right or am I missing something?
(from what I understand the NKP11 folder is empty and can be used to put in configuration files, does anyone have any of those? (I've got only fan.bin, but don't have the feeling it does anything at all...)
thanks,
Regards!
Post by: kingroach on December 04, 2007, 06:50:00 PM
you might want to look at :
http://www.esnips.com/web/kingroach/
and download the npatcher used with ndure 3.1. It includes the original source files and documentation for producing config bin files. You can also compile your own bios with hardcoded fan speed.. But seems like unleashx overwrites the fan speed settings..
Post by: GregToR on December 04, 2007, 08:59:00 PM
only trouble left is indeed the fan speed in UnleashX,
played around with it, and if I select 1.00, then it's speed is actually 3.0 ...
so can't go slower then 1.50... which is still pretty loud on my Crystal v1.6 Xbox...
am I the only one experiencing that?
Post by: GregToR on December 05, 2007, 02:50:00 AM
just changed 3rd Xbox to Ndure-3.1 with UnleashX v0.39,
it's also a v1.0 kernel 4034 Xbox,
and for this one the setting 1.0x works!
strange though, because it's one I fixed:
it had bad trace corrosion (it powered on when powerplug connected,
eject & power button did not function normal and only red light), which I was able to fix...
now it turns out it functions better than the other v1.0 and the v1.6 Crystal... nice
anyone a clue?
Post by: GregToR on December 05, 2007, 01:04:00 PM
friend of mine wanted XBMC dash to boot,
so I copied all files of XBMC to E:/dash,
but now it doesnt boot anything, not MS dash with tray open,
just stays black,
only loads original games...............
help!!!
Post by: GregToR on December 05, 2007, 01:34:00 PM
but it gives an error, fails little bit over halfway...
it's a v1.2 Xbox from 2003,
but the kernel in the eeprom backup menu showed 5838,
which I selected to make the C and E files wit Ndure-3.1,
but isn't 5838 the newest kernel, can this older Xbox have that new kernel?
maybe it's the wrong kernel (I've heared that using the wrong kernel can cause not to boot...)
is it maybe because only the shadowC was installed,
normally after first boot I ftp the retail MS Dash files to the "empty" C (the shadowC),
does the XBMC dash not support that in any way?
or is it because there's no config file in root or E:/dash ?
(just the XBMC folders and its default.xbe in E:/dash)
it doesn't load AID dvd, only original games...
and the dual boot does not work, can't get into MS dash with open tray to put the savegames for exploit on.............
I've backup the eeprom etc to my pc,
please don't tell me I need to take out the hard drive...
what's the easiest way to fix this???
what if I were to clone the C and E partition with Chimp?
(of working v1.0 kernel 4034 or v1.6 kernel 5838 Xbox?)
but will that corrupt the F and G partition?
because it's a 160gb hard drive and may not loose files on F and G...
Post by: GregToR on December 05, 2007, 04:02:00 PM
fixed it:
my Crystal Xbox hasn't got his screws in it,
so throwed it open,
booted into a menu with broken xbox,
booted in avalanche toolset with crystal xbox,
took out ide of hdd from broken one and put in the ide cable of crystal xbox (hotswap),
booted AID disc from there, re-installed softmod...
... et voila, softmod runs fine now and no data lost on F or G,
few... but sweeeeet
-----------------------------------------
I think I might know what the problem was:
if I check now in XBMC, the kernel is 5101 !
while in the eeprom backup utility it was 5838 !?
is that the cause, or did I have to do something more to be able booting XBMC dash?
Post by: dOoBiX on December 10, 2007, 05:39:00 PM
QUOTE
1. Download Kingroach's nkpatcher zipfile
2. Uncomment the line in config.inc: %define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
3. Run make_nkp11.bat
4. Replace /C/bios/bios.xbe in my xbox with the newly compiled bios.xbe
2. Uncomment the line in config.inc: %define VIRTUAL_CDROM_DRIVE
3. Run make_nkp11.bat
4. Replace /C/bios/bios.xbe in my xbox with the newly compiled bios.xbe
After I did that, my 200gb F: drive (with 60gb of free space) turned into a 4gb blank drive. How do I make it so that I can see my whole F: drive again? I know all my data is still there because I can see it again when I replace the new bios.xbe with my original backed up bios.xbe.
EDIT: Nevermind, I should have read the entire config.inc before posting my question.
I just had to change the bios from .67 to .06 by editing:
%define PARTITION_METHOD 2 to %define PARTITION_METHOD 1
Post by: silvertyrant on December 25, 2007, 01:59:00 AM
Post by: cr0nick on August 09, 2008, 09:13:00 PM
QUOTE(silvertyrant @ Dec 25 2007, 05:35 AM)
xbins isnt working for me i cant get ndure 3.1 any help would be appreciated [email protected] and my aim is o0SilverOo im always on
Same problem, anyone know when the FTP will be back up?
Post by: slam007 on January 16, 2009, 02:15:00 AM
I'm planning to softmod my virgin Xbox to convert it into a media center using Xbmc. I have been reading numerous post about the best way of doing it and decided to go for the Ndure 3.1 PC installer using the XboxHdm installer and hotswap method.
After following the instructions in the manual I now have a xboxhdm\linux\ndure directory with the ndure.htm script file.
I have two questions on which I need a answer before doing the actual softmod
- Is it ok to use the standaard ndure.htm script file?
- Will it work with dashboard version 4920?
Can anybody help me?
Thanks.
Post by: kingroach on January 16, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
Post by: slam007 on January 17, 2009, 01:31:00 PM
QUOTE(slam007 @ Jan 16 2009, 10:11 PM)
Thanks for the fast reply kingroach.
I just update my dashboard to 5960 by connecting to Xbox Live. This means that I'm ready to do some hotswapping!
Which me luck
.I just finished my first Xbox softmod with success!
I can recommend this software (Ndure 3.1 & Xboxhdm) to everybody. If you follow the instructions it should work without any problems.
I have one more question about backup. How can I backup the original xbox files and the eeprom?
Thanks.
Post by: obcd on January 18, 2009, 08:18:00 AM
regards.
Post by: slam007 on January 21, 2009, 01:04:00 PM
QUOTE(obcd @ Jan 18 2009, 04:54 PM)
the ndts folder on the E partition (run default.xbe from it) has an option to backup the xbox eeprom. After that, you can ftp the eeprom.bin file (256bytes) and the other files (unmodded M$dash) to your pc.
regards.
OBCD thanks for the answer.
I managed to create a backup of the eeprom using the Ndure toolset by following your instructions and found the eeprom.bin (1KB) on E:\NKP11. Next I made a backup of the entire C and E drives using FTP server from the Ndure toolset.
Should I be worried about the filesize of the eeprom.bin?
Regards,
Slam007.
Post by: obcd on January 21, 2009, 03:23:00 PM
There exist a windows program for pc called liveinfo beta 3. You can load the eeprom.bin in that program, and it will show you all the relevant information of it. You can compare the serial number with the number on the sticker on the bottom of your xbox. If those matches, things should be fine.
regards.
Post by: slam007 on January 22, 2009, 01:46:00 AM
QUOTE(obcd @ Jan 21 2009, 11:59 PM)
Are you sure 1K is not the size it takes on the disk?
There exist a windows program for pc called liveinfo beta 3. You can load the eeprom.bin in that program, and it will show you all the relevant information of it. You can compare the serial number with the number on the sticker on the bottom of your xbox. If those matches, things should be fine.
regards.
OBCD,
It was indeed a PEBCAC problem (problem exists between chair and computer). The actual size is 256 bytes.
I'm all set now.
I would like to thank all people who helped me out on this very responsive forum.
You guys are amazing.
Thanks for letting me resurrect my XBOX
Slam007
Post by: Carvo on February 09, 2010, 03:46:00 PM
I have an xbox modded with NDure 3.0 with the double boot option and UDDAE.
With power button, XBMC gets booted. When I UDDAE, I would like to boot into unleashX instead of XBL.
How can this be accomplished ?
Post by: steveo1978 on February 09, 2010, 04:35:00 PM
Post by: ldotsfan on February 10, 2010, 07:09:00 AM
QUOTE(Carvo @ Feb 10 2010, 06:46 AM)
With power button, XBMC gets booted. When I UDDAE, I would like to boot into unleashX instead of XBL.
How can this be accomplished ?
http://forums.xbox-s...&...t&p=3066313 for the generic st.db.
ST.DB should be copied to E:\TDATA\fffe0000\music folder.
xbe should be habibi signed. Google for nkpatcher11_u04 for nasm and xbedump if you don't have them.
Post by: ldotsfan on February 10, 2010, 07:44:00 AM
QUOTE(ldotsfan @ Feb 10 2010, 10:09 PM)
Reconstructed from http://forums.xbox-s...&...t&p=2960681
and http://forums.xbox-s...&...t&p=2973832
CODE
;;;
;;; Compile: nasm -o ST.DB stdb.asm
;;;
BITS 32
stdbmemofs equ 1498BCh ; < fixed by 4920 dash
D5960_offset equ 00001B000h ; eggsBox
mem_offset equ 0D004B694h - D5960_offset ;
bin_start:
.HEAD0 dd 'BUFF'
.HEAD1 dd (mem_offset-1498C8h)/4
.HEAD2 dd .start-.HEAD0+stdbmemofs
;;;
;;; Summary:
;;; 1) Remove the subdirectory 1498c8 (HEAD2) that Dashboard created.
;;; 2) Rewrite ST.DB to disk (because Dashboard gobbles it.)
;;; 3) Change the MS public key in kernel to habibi-key.
;;; 4) Load and run a habibi-signed XBE.
;;;
.start:
call .base
.base: pop ebp
jmp short .continuecode
;----------------
.xbestring db 'default.xbe',0; To modify
.trnumstr db 'T:\music\1498c8',0
.trnum dw $-.trnumstr-1, $-.trnumstr-1
.ptrnumstr dd .trnumstr-.HEAD0+stdbmemofs
.tmusicstdb dw 14, 14
dd 17E10h; "T:\MUSIC\ST.DB"
.dispose db 1
;----------------
.continuecode:
; jmp short $; make it hang <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
dec dword [ebp+.HEAD1-.base]
dec dword [ebp+.HEAD2-.base]
push dword [ebp+.HEAD0-.base-4]
call dword [12034h]; NtClose
push byte 26
pop ecx
xor eax,eax
mov edi,stdbmemofs+416
rep stosd
inc eax
stosd
mov dword [edi-12],21371h
push eax
mov ebx,esp; File handle
push eax
push eax
mov esi,esp; IO status
lea eax,[ebp+.trnum-.base]
push byte 40h
push eax
push byte -3
mov edi,esp; Object attributes
push byte 1
push byte 4
push esi
push edi
push dword 10000h
push ebx
call dword [12040h]; NtOpenFile
push byte 13; 13 = FileDispositionInformation
push byte 1
lea eax,[ebp+.dispose-.base]
push eax
push esi
push dword [ebx]
call dword [120A0h]; NtSetInformationFile
push dword [ebx]
call dword [12034h]; NtClose
lea eax,[ebp+.tmusicstdb-.base]
mov [edi+4],eax
push byte 22h
push byte 3
push esi
push edi
push dword 40100000h
push ebx
call dword [12040h]; NtOpenFile
mov eax,512+12
lea edx,[ebp+.HEAD0-.base]
call .write
push byte 101
pop ecx
mov eax,512-12
.wl: push ecx
mov edx,10D70h; zeroes at 0x10D70
call .write
mov eax,512
pop ecx
loop .wl
push dword [ebx]
mov esi,dword [12034h]; NtClose
call esi
; add esp,byte 12+8+4
.patchpublickey:
mov ebx,dword [121A8h]; XePublicKeyData
test ebx,ebx
jz short .badexport
cmp dword [ebx],31415352h
jne short .badexport
cmp dword [ebx+10h],10001h
je short .keyfound
.badexport:
and si,0F000h
.findkernel:
mov ax,[esi]
cmp ax,'ZM'
je short .check
cmp ax,'MZ'
je short .check
.retry: sub esi,1000h
jmp short .findkernel
.check:
mov eax,[esi+3Ch]
cmp eax,0FFFh
ja short .retry
cmp dword [esi+eax],'PE'
jne short .retry
mov ebx,esi
.searchkey:
inc ebx
cmp dword [ebx],31415352h
jne short .searchkey
cmp dword [ebx+10h],10001h
jne short .searchkey
.keyfound:
.searchkeyend:
inc ebx
cmp dword [ebx],0A44B1BBDh
jne short .searchkeyend
cli
mov ecx,cr0
push ecx
and ecx,0FFFEFFFFh
mov cr0,ecx
xor dword [ebx],2DD78BD6h
pop ecx
mov cr0,ecx
sti
.loadrunxbe:
push byte 0
push esp
push byte 0
push byte 2
push 127C8h; "\Device\Harddisk0\partition1" to modify?
lea eax,[ebp+.xbestring-.base]
push eax
mov esi,555A9h
call esi
.inf: jmp short .inf
;------------------------
.write:
xor ecx,ecx
push ecx
push eax
push edx
push esi
push ecx
push ecx
push ecx
push dword [ebx]
call dword [120D8h]; NtWriteFile
ret
;
%if $-.HEAD0 > 416
%error 416 bytes maximum!
%endif
times 512-$+.HEAD0 db 0
dd 21371h, 0, 1; An empty no-name track (for HD to HD copy)
times 52224-$+bin_start.HEAD0 db 0
Post by: ldotsfan on February 10, 2010, 08:04:00 AM
CODE
;;;
;;; Compile example: nasm -o ST.DB stdb.asm
;;;
BITS 32
NtOpenFile equ 12040h
NtWriteFile equ 120D8h
NtClose equ 12034h
NtSetInformationFile equ 120A0h
XePublicKeyData equ 121A8h
LaunchDataPage equ 12004h
MmAllocateContiguousMemory equ 1213Ch
MmPersistContiguousMemory equ 12138h
HalReturnToFirmware equ 12008h
stdbmemofs equ 1498BCh ; < WAS fixed by 4920 dash
D5960_offset equ 00001B000h ; eggsBox
mem_offset equ 0D004B694h - D5960_offset ; adrress when launched from 4920 only
HEAD0 dd 'DDAE'
HEAD1 dd (mem_offset-1498C8h)/4; = $ CFEE6DCC / 4 = 33FB9B73
HEAD2 dd start-HEAD0+stdbmemofs; JMP TO > START
;;;
;;; Summary:
;;; 1) Remove the subdirectory 1498C8 (HEAD2) that Dashboard created.
;;; 2) Rewrite ST.DB to disk (because Dashboard gobbles it.)
;;; 3) Change the Microsoft public key in kernel to habibi-key.
;;; 4) Load and run a habibi-signed XBE.
;;;
start:
call base
base: pop ebp
jmp short continuecode
trnumstr db 'T:\music\1498C8',0
trnum dw $-trnumstr-1, $-trnumstr-1
ptrnumstr dd trnumstr+stdbmemofs
tmusicstdb dw 14, 14
dd 17E10h
dispose db 1
xbestr db '\Device\Harddisk0\Partition1;default.xbe',0
XBESTRLEN equ $-xbestr
continuecode:
dec dword [ebp+HEAD1-base]
dec dword [ebp+HEAD2-base]
push dword [ebp+HEAD0-base-4]
call dword [NtClose]
push byte 26
pop ecx
xor eax,eax
mov edi,stdbmemofs+416
rep stosd
inc eax
stosd
mov dword [edi-12],21371h
push eax
mov ebx,esp ; File handle
push eax
push eax
mov esi,esp ; IO status
lea eax,[ebp+trnum-base]
push byte 40h
push eax
push byte -3
mov edi,esp ; Object attributes
push byte 1
push byte 4
push esi
push edi
push dword 10000h
push ebx
call dword [NtOpenFile]
push byte 13 ; 13 = FileDispositionInformation
push byte 1
lea eax,[ebp+dispose-base]
push eax
push esi
push dword [ebx]
call dword [NtSetInformationFile]
push dword [ebx]
call dword [NtClose]
lea eax,[ebp+tmusicstdb-base]
mov [edi+4],eax
push byte 22h
push byte 3
push esi
push edi
push dword 40100000h
push ebx
call dword [NtOpenFile]
mov eax,512+12
lea edx,[ebp+HEAD0-base]
call write
push byte 101
pop ecx
mov eax,512-12
wl: push ecx
mov edx,10D70h; zeroes at 0x10D70
call write
mov eax,512
pop ecx
loop wl
push dword [ebx]
call dword [NtClose]
patchpublickey:
mov eax,[XePublicKeyData]
pushf
cli
mov ecx,cr0
push ecx
and ecx,0FFFEFFFFh
mov cr0,ecx
xor dword [eax+110h],2DD78BD6h
pop ecx
mov cr0,ecx
popf
launchxbe:
mov esi,[LaunchDataPage]
mov edi,1000h
mov ebx,[esi]
test ebx,ebx
jnz .memok
push edi
call dword [MmAllocateContiguousMemory]
mov ebx,eax
mov [esi],eax
.memok:
push byte 1
push edi
push ebx
call dword [MmPersistContiguousMemory]
mov edi,ebx
xor eax,eax
mov ecx,400h
rep stosd
or dword [ebx],byte -1
; mov [ebx+4],eax
lea edi,[ebx+8]
lea esi,[ebp+xbestr-base]
push byte XBESTRLEN
pop ecx
rep movsb
push byte 2
call dword [HalReturnToFirmware]
.inf: jmp short .inf
write:
xor ecx,ecx
push ecx
push eax
push edx
push esi
push ecx
push ecx
push ecx
push dword [ebx]
call dword [NtWriteFile]
ret
%if $-HEAD0 > 412
%error 412 bytes maximum!
%endif
times 512-$+HEAD0 db 0
dd 21371h, 0, 1 ; An empty no-name track (for HD to HD copy)
times 52224-$+HEAD0 db 0
Post by: LittleRabbit on April 04, 2010, 04:38:00 AM
I'm a newby from the newbies on Xbox : I bought my first Xbox a few weeks ago, to make it a Mame, Kawax and other emulators machine :-). Im writing from France : sorry if my English is not perfect, I hope you will be able to understand what Im trying to say ;-).
So, its a PAL Xbox, version 1.6, with a kernel 5838, it was already softmoded, never opened with the original 8 GB hard disk in it.
Im replacing the original hard disk with a 120 GB Maxtor one.
I read a lot of the topics found on this amazing forum and got XboxHDM v1.9, Ndure 3.1, and of course, my EEPROM files.
Here are my tries and what is working / not working.
1) Basic Xbox HDM 1.9:
If I make a standard XboxHDM image, burn it, boot it and format the 120 GB disk, everything goes right. Then I lock the HD, place it back on the Xbox and switch it on : the Xbox boots, and I get the standard MS dash.
2) Ndure 3.1 build for XboxHDM:
I select the following options :
- Core files (Install Ndur Basic, Boot XBL dash with Ekect
- Kernel selection 5838
- Create XboxHDM installer
It works fine and it creates the C and E folders. I copy those folders to the Linux folder of XboxHDM and make my iso image, and then burn it.
I eventually unlock the HD if locked and select option 1) from XboxHDM boot menu. Then I type xboxhd and select option 1). XboxHDM detect my 120 GB HD, create the partitions and format them.
Then I get the first problem : when XboxHDM tries to copy files to C and E partitions, he cant find the files. I get the message Searching for files : C/xboxdash.xbe : unknown operand, cannot find system files. The weird thing is that the mentioned file is actually present on the CD
Since the files cant be found here, I launch xbrowser and copy the files by myself with F5.
I copy all the files from C and E folders to PriMas/C and /E.
I reboot XboxHDM and lock the hard drive with the command lockhd a. I place it back on the Xbox and switch it on : the Xbox boots, and I get the Unleash dash ! :-) Not too bad so ;-).
However, it seems that some parts are not working : if I boot with Eject button, or if I select MS Dash in the menu, he cant find any files. As a matter of fact, if I browse the files from the Unleash menu, the C partition is empty ! With a ftp client, I succeed in copying files to E or F, but I cant copy to C either (C looks empty from ftp too).
Have you any clue why I get the copy error while XboxHDM 1.9 is running ? Would you know why the C partition is empty and how I could get the standard MS dash too ?
Thanks a bunch in advance for your help.
Kind regards,
Little Rabbit
Post by: steveo1978 on April 04, 2010, 01:14:00 PM
try this thread http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=664143
that should get you up and running
Post by: LittleRabbit on April 08, 2010, 03:21:00 PM
Thanks for your answer, it's very kind of you.
I spent quite a lot of time last week-end figuring out what I was doing wrong. I found several things :-).
First, I wasn't moving the files prepared by Ndure Installer to the right place ! I swear, I RTFM ;-), but I didn't read it carefully enough ! I was moving the contents of the ndure folder to the C and E folders of xboxhdm instead of moving the whole ndure folder itself in the linux folder. Second mistake, I missed the ndure.htm copying "batch" file. I copied them manually and that was my mistake. And last one, I didn't put the original MS dashboard files in the C folder of the linux folder of xboxhdm !
Anyway, I finally succeded in making it working properly.
Thanks to this forum and thanks for your help.
Kind regards,
Little Rabbit
Post by: dmk900 on October 24, 2010, 03:07:00 AM
QUOTE
Softmod & Nkpatcher Options
Install Ndure Basic
Use Nkpatcher .06
Boot XBL dash with eject.
Boot XBL dash with UDDAE
Enable clock check
Use Nkpatcher RGB
Install Ndure Basic
Use Nkpatcher .06
Boot XBL dash with eject.
Boot XBL dash with UDDAE
Enable clock check
Use Nkpatcher RGB
What do they all do in a little more detail?
I'm wanting to softmod a unmodded xbox1 (5838)
and once I've done that want to change the hdd to a ide 120gb
Post by: Heimdall on October 24, 2010, 03:45:00 AM
This post has been edited by Heimdall: Oct 24 2010, 10:47 AM
Post by: PadMasta44 on May 13, 2011, 11:39:00 AM
Im wanting to setup my PC (XP64 soon to be Win7x64) to run Xbox (original) games.
This wouldnt be the right program to use now would it?
So that been said; does anyone know where I could find such a program? Xbox emulator for the PC that is.
Please and thank you's
-PM44
Post by: ldotsfan on May 13, 2011, 10:01:00 PM
QUOTE(PadMasta44 @ May 14 2011, 01:39 AM)
This wouldnt be the right program to use now would it?
So that been said; does anyone know where I could find such a program? Xbox emulator for the PC that is.
Please and thank you's
-PM44
No. Try dxbx or cxbx instead