Post by: Angerwound on January 26, 2005, 09:10:00 AM
Is it possible to use XBOX Live with a softmodded XBOX?
Yes, it is very possible. However, this does not mean you can sign on to XBOX Live after the softmod has been enabled.
I heard XBOX Live is scanning the hard drive, is this true?
While we can't prove what they WERE doing, we can say that they are not scanning the partitions for certain files at the moment. Therefore, you can have whatever you want on either partition. Gamesave Exploits/UXE/UEEE... etc...
Then why are so many people being banned?
Many 'Theories' have been developed within the 'XBOX Live Forum'. They all seem to lead to that same conclusion. If you are banned and a simple eeprom swap does not resolve the problem; place your original HDD in the console (If Upgraded), update your eeprom with a fresh one, and sign-up for a new gamertag. This will cover all theories at once.
So how do I access XBOX Live after installing UXE?
Well, first of all you will need your Live Account. If you don't have your account saved to a memory card or already on your console then you will need to copy back the original 'xboxdash.xbe' and RETAIL fonts back to the 'C' partition.
Boot the console to the RETAIL dashboard and do an Account Recovery to get access to your Gamertag. Once this has been completed, use your 'Gamesave Exploit' or 'XBOXHDM' disk to copy back the UXE files, (xboxdash.xbe and fonts). Now, when you wish to sign-on to xbox live with a certain game, place the disk inside the dvdrom of your console. Reboot, and the console will launch the disk in the tray before executing UXE.This has been nicknamed 'Cold-Booting' the game. From here you can go ahead and sign-in to Live.
Are any other exploits/softmods able to be used along side a Live Enabled Console?
Yes, the soon to be released UEEE, a revamped version of the old 'Live 2.0 Exploit', as well as a simple 'Gamesave Exploit' can be used. Each of these modifications involve an exploit that is manually executed after the RETAIL dashboard has been reached. Thus, allowing one to use XBOX Live and then when they wish to launch their Homebrew Dashboard they perform the necessary steps to do so. If you are unsure about how these work please read the pinned thread entitled 'Dashboard Exploits'.
The game I wish to play is asking me to update, what should I do?
Any game that has an update sent out for it, (Bug Fixes, Game Engine Changes), will ask you to update the title before signing into the service. This is basically what happens. The game will attempt to execute 'update.xbe', from the game disk. When this occurs, the fonts will be accessed. Therefore, if you attempt to update with the UXE fonts in place your xbox will crash.
What you need to do to resolve this situation, is basically the same steps outlined in the above question to do an account recovery of your gamertag. You will need to copy back the RETAIL 'xboxdash.xbe' and 'Fonts'. Reboot, and load up the game which needs updating and allow it to do so. Once finished, use your 'Gamesave Exploit' or 'XBOXHDM Disk' to reinstall the UXE files.
Can I still download content from my Live-Enabled games?
Yes, downloading content and recieving game updates is completely different. The game updates use the update.xbe on the disk. Download Content is recieved with an execution of downloader.xbe. This file has no calls to the 'Fonts', therefore will not cause any problems during execution.
What should I do to prevent getting banned in the future?
With the latest and greatest NKPatcher release by RMENHAL. Many great features have been added to prevent a softmod user from communicating with the live service. Shadow EEPROM and Shadow 'C' as well as the Live Bloacking feature of the X2 bioses has been implemented. This should insure your console does not get you banned while you enjoy your homebrew applications.
Suggestions/Comments/EDITS are welcome...
This post has been edited by Angerwound: Jan 26 2005, 07:11 PM
Post by: krayzie on January 26, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
Post by: DaddyJ on January 26, 2005, 09:21:00 AM
QUOTE
Is it possible to use XBOX Live with a softmodded XBOX?
Yes, it is very possible. However, this does not mean you can sign on to XBOX Live after the softmod has been enabled.
Yes, it is very possible. However, this does not mean you can sign on to XBOX Live after the softmod has been enabled.
Please, read this everyone..........
Post by: mkjones on January 26, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
love it 
But I would recomend adding info on using alternatives such as the exelent:
Xlink Kai
(www.teamxlink.co.uk)
And dont forget the other one:
XBC
(www.xbconnect.com)
Which allow sys-link games to be played online in the same way as live!
And it doesnt matter HOW much your xbox is modded/hacked/abused
Personally I use Xlink Kai, its a great application and has amazing support all for FREE! Also the community is great
Remember you can also use GameCube and PS2 online functions with Xlink Kai
Post by: Angerwound on January 26, 2005, 09:58:00 AM
Also, I added this to the tutorials thread as well as cleaned out a bunch of outdated stuff.
Post by: DaddyJ on January 26, 2005, 10:10:00 AM
QUOTE(Angerwound)
Also, I added this to the tutorials thread as well as cleaned out a bunch of outdated stuff.
SWEET!!!! Now if we can get them to read them....
Post by: Keo-Keo on January 26, 2005, 02:10:00 PM
Post by: The Quest on January 27, 2005, 11:53:00 AM
Post by: Keo-Keo on January 27, 2005, 03:21:00 PM
What We Don't Which Leads Us To What We Don't Know
Post by: luther349 on January 27, 2005, 05:27:00 PM
Post by: Keo-Keo on January 27, 2005, 06:51:00 PM
QUOTE(luther349 @ Jan 28 2005, 01:58 AM)
yes if you upgrade your hd make a new live account. the marrage thery has been proven and if you change your hd and use your old live account you will be banned.
^^^ Should be added to the FAQ
Post by: eh. on January 27, 2005, 09:08:00 PM
Post by: atomiX on January 27, 2005, 10:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Keo-Keo @ Jan 27 2005, 06:52 PM)
I've been doing alot of reading.. Marriage Theory has been pretty much proven. What i've been hearing is that you sould upgrade your hard drive frist then sign on to live. Any idea's on that?
What We Don't Which Leads Us To What We Don't Know
What We Don't Which Leads Us To What We Don't Know
this can be supported by many including me. i still go on live with my upgraded drive because it was changed before logging on for the first time. i don't use exploits on live though since my box is chipped.
Post by: Angerwound on January 27, 2005, 10:12:00 PM
Post by: eh. on January 28, 2005, 01:04:00 AM
This post has been edited by eh.: Jan 28 2005, 09:05 AM
Post by: Angerwound on January 28, 2005, 06:50:00 PM
Post by: Angerwound on January 29, 2005, 01:43:00 AM
Post by: eh. on January 29, 2005, 06:31:00 PM
QUOTE(Angerwound @ Jan 28 2005, 07:21 PM - part)
@Eh: I do believe so, as my personal tests have showed nothing of the same. Taking a virgin box with a gamertag that has been banned for almost every possible reason results in no problems whatsoever.
Post by: dmoney101 on February 01, 2005, 07:38:00 PM
Post by: Angerwound on February 01, 2005, 07:42:00 PM
QUOTE(dmoney101 @ Feb 1 2005, 07:44 PM)
are there any LIVE compatible exploits for xbl version 3. whatever the latest verion is
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: dmoney101 on February 01, 2005, 07:50:00 PM
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yeah, you said there is a exploit for version 2.0 but there are newer versions. oh and do you know where i can get a 'XBOXHDM' disk? can i get it from the "usual place"?
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: TigerHawk on February 04, 2005, 10:37:00 PM
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@Angerwound
I have had XBL since Christmas after it came out, and upgraded my HD about 14 months ago. I have yet to be banned on XBL since.
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: rastoma on February 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM
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Post by: dmoney101 on February 01, 2005, 07:50:00 PM
Post by: TigerHawk on February 04, 2005, 10:37:00 PM
I have had XBL since Christmas after it came out, and upgraded my HD about 14 months ago. I have yet to be banned on XBL since.
Post by: rastoma on February 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM
QUOTE(Angerwound @ Jan 28 2005, 05:18 AM)
Gamertag's are not flagged. They are banned if they connect with a modified kernel or a mismatch of eeprom/hdd in they're records. Gamertag's mean nothing, I wish people would realize this.
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: Keo-Keo on February 07, 2005, 04:38:00 AM
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Post by: Keo-Keo on February 07, 2005, 04:38:00 AM
QUOTE(TigerHawk @ Feb 5 2005, 05:43 AM)
@Angerwound
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: Keo-Keo on February 07, 2005, 06:35:00 AM
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Post by: Keo-Keo on February 07, 2005, 06:35:00 AM
QUOTE(Pistol @ Feb 7 2005, 12:47 PM)
Do any of the softmod techniques incorporate Live blocking? I hear that nkpatcher 10 may do, but I've been unable to work it out for myself so far.
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: mullet0224 on February 12, 2005, 01:07:00 PM
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Wow this cleared up a lot of my questions about softmodding and live... however Ive heard from many many people that coldbooting is not recommended. Are these people doing something wrong, or is their really a risk?
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: cmiz on February 12, 2005, 02:26:00 PM
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i would suggest you use a kernel patcher/bios loader with live blocking (so that in the even that something went wrong and you tried to access live with a hacked bios, it wouldn't let you.)
other than that, it appears to be that MS is not scanning hard drives at this time and so it really isn't a risk cold booting. (realize that theoretically, they could start scanning drives whenever though and in that case, you could get banned...that's where the potential risk comes in)
the hard drive marriage theory still applies however, so you should read up on that a little bit. (basically, once you sign onto live, you can't change your hard drive without getting a new eeprom).
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: cmiz on February 19, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
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go on live and sign up before modding your xbox
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: epsilon9090 on March 30, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
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Coldbooting is only possible with original games, not backups because the original bios needs to be the one loaded, correct?
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: krayzie on March 30, 2005, 01:58:00 PM
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correct
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: PedrosPad on July 13, 2005, 02:02:00 AM
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Post by: mullet0224 on February 12, 2005, 01:07:00 PM
Post by: cmiz on February 12, 2005, 02:26:00 PM
other than that, it appears to be that MS is not scanning hard drives at this time and so it really isn't a risk cold booting. (realize that theoretically, they could start scanning drives whenever though and in that case, you could get banned...that's where the potential risk comes in)
the hard drive marriage theory still applies however, so you should read up on that a little bit. (basically, once you sign onto live, you can't change your hard drive without getting a new eeprom).
Post by: cmiz on February 19, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
Post by: epsilon9090 on March 30, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
Post by: krayzie on March 30, 2005, 01:58:00 PM
Post by: PedrosPad on July 13, 2005, 02:02:00 AM
QUOTE(NexWill @ Jul 13 2005, 08:40 AM)
What if you softmodded your xbox and intend to still play online? I softmodded a friends xbox but then when we went to sign onto halo 2 no mods currently installed, it gave us a trouble shooter window. When I goto ms dash to auto-detect the settings it stops at the ip checking setting. What is wrong with the softmod that is keeping it from auto-detecting the ip?
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: GMSkel on October 02, 2005, 10:43:00 AM
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So how does one play on XBOX Live without being banned, using a Gamesave exploit to softmod?
This link isn't working:
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=243341
I'm just trying to do my homework before attempting to softmod.
I've read up on numerous ways to softmod and found this one to be the easiest:
I'm just waiting on my Action Replay package now.
I want to be able to play XBOX Live without having to remove the mod from the system.
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: deadparrot on October 02, 2005, 11:15:00 AM
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Install Krayzie's Ndure, with a Dual-Retail Multiboot, then your xbox will boot to the MS Dash when you turn it on via the eject button. You can then put in your Live! game and play. Or, you can put in the game from the modded dash, turn the xbox off, and turn it back on again, and access Live! from the game. This is known as Coldbooting.
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: GMSkel on October 02, 2005, 11:18:00 AM
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Post by: GMSkel on October 02, 2005, 10:43:00 AM
This link isn't working:
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=243341
I'm just trying to do my homework before attempting to softmod.
I've read up on numerous ways to softmod and found this one to be the easiest:
CODE
http://www.how2xbox.com/mod.htm
I'm just waiting on my Action Replay package now.
I want to be able to play XBOX Live without having to remove the mod from the system.
Post by: deadparrot on October 02, 2005, 11:15:00 AM
Post by: GMSkel on October 02, 2005, 11:18:00 AM
QUOTE(deadparrot @ Oct 2 2005, 01:26 PM)
Install Krayzie's Ndure, with a Dual-Retail Multiboot, then your xbox will boot to the MS Dash when you turn it on via the eject button. You can then put in your Live! game and play. Or, you can put in the game from the modded dash, turn the xbox off, and turn it back on again, and access Live! from the game. This is known as Coldbooting.
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: deadparrot on October 02, 2005, 11:39:00 AM
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Don't use Ltools. It's obselete. Krayzie's Ndure is the most up-to-date installer. It has options to turn the softmod on and off, without uninstalling via the gamesave.
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: GMSkel on October 02, 2005, 12:07:00 PM
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Should I install the Krayzie UXE package or just the regular package?
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: GMSkel on October 03, 2005, 02:18:00 PM
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When I drag the MechAssault Krayzie UXE installer into Action Replay I get this message "This is not a valid Xbox save."
Please help.
Edit:
Sorry, nevermind.
The Splinter Cell one is working.
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: frOOt lOOps on February 05, 2006, 08:39:00 PM
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so what if i put the xbox live file on a memory card onto my xbox hard disk then what? the problem is that i am trying to get an old xbox live account of a friends xbox which is softmodded.
I have 2 softmodded xbox's in my house. mine is softmodded and works but i want live on it.
The other xbox had already been used on xbox live before i softmodded it. now this friend has a 360 an he gave me the xbox to softmod for him but he says that i can use the xbox live account on that xbox. the only thing is how do i get the live account of his xbox to mine to use? can i just ftp it. the problem is he said i could have the live account after i softmodded his xbox. I couldn't find a live game save in unleash X to put on my xbox. is there a way to do this thourgh ftp instead to get his live account on my xbox.
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: krayzie on April 22, 2006, 11:33:00 AM
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no nor do we support halo2 hacks on live. I suggest you read the rules.
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: skoad on August 07, 2006, 12:19:00 PM
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How would one go about un-softmodding his/her xbox?
I softmodded and have the Evox dash. I am able to dualboto itno the MS dash, but whene I goto XBox Live and New Account is takes me back tot he evbox dash.
I also tried cold botting using the Halo 2 disk. I goto create new account, exit halo 2, and still nothing. any ideas?
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Title: Softmods And Xbox Live
Post by: shadowfunk on November 26, 2006, 05:24:00 PM
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oooooook thats all really complicated with a lot of big words that i dont get. im a noob so help me out a lil.
i have evox running on my box. thats about all i no , i no i can turn the mod on and off with a cd. ok is it possible 2 just turn the softmod off and play xbox live? cus that would be kick ass and i wouldnt have 2 deal with alll that other stuff.
thanks guys i wish i was as smart as u
Post by: deadparrot on October 02, 2005, 11:39:00 AM
Post by: GMSkel on October 02, 2005, 12:07:00 PM
Post by: GMSkel on October 03, 2005, 02:18:00 PM
Please help.
Edit:
Sorry, nevermind.
The Splinter Cell one is working.
Post by: frOOt lOOps on February 05, 2006, 08:39:00 PM
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So how do I access XBOX Live after installing UXE?
Well, first of all you will need your Live Account. If you don't have your account saved to a memory card or already on your console then you will need to copy back the original 'xboxdash.xbe' and RETAIL fonts back to the 'C' partition.
Boot the console to the RETAIL dashboard and do an Account Recovery to get access to your Gamertag. Once this has been completed, use your 'Gamesave Exploit' or 'XBOXHDM' disk to copy back the UXE files, (xboxdash.xbe and fonts). Now, when you wish to sign-on to xbox live with a certain game, place the disk inside the dvdrom of your console. Reboot, and the console will launch the disk in the tray before executing UXE.This has been nicknamed 'Cold-Booting' the game. From here you can go ahead and sign-in to Live.
Well, first of all you will need your Live Account. If you don't have your account saved to a memory card or already on your console then you will need to copy back the original 'xboxdash.xbe' and RETAIL fonts back to the 'C' partition.
Boot the console to the RETAIL dashboard and do an Account Recovery to get access to your Gamertag. Once this has been completed, use your 'Gamesave Exploit' or 'XBOXHDM' disk to copy back the UXE files, (xboxdash.xbe and fonts). Now, when you wish to sign-on to xbox live with a certain game, place the disk inside the dvdrom of your console. Reboot, and the console will launch the disk in the tray before executing UXE.This has been nicknamed 'Cold-Booting' the game. From here you can go ahead and sign-in to Live.
so what if i put the xbox live file on a memory card onto my xbox hard disk then what? the problem is that i am trying to get an old xbox live account of a friends xbox which is softmodded.
I have 2 softmodded xbox's in my house. mine is softmodded and works but i want live on it.
The other xbox had already been used on xbox live before i softmodded it. now this friend has a 360 an he gave me the xbox to softmod for him but he says that i can use the xbox live account on that xbox. the only thing is how do i get the live account of his xbox to mine to use? can i just ftp it. the problem is he said i could have the live account after i softmodded his xbox. I couldn't find a live game save in unleash X to put on my xbox. is there a way to do this thourgh ftp instead to get his live account on my xbox.
Post by: krayzie on April 22, 2006, 11:33:00 AM
Post by: skoad on August 07, 2006, 12:19:00 PM
I softmodded and have the Evox dash. I am able to dualboto itno the MS dash, but whene I goto XBox Live and New Account is takes me back tot he evbox dash.
I also tried cold botting using the Halo 2 disk. I goto create new account, exit halo 2, and still nothing. any ideas?
Post by: shadowfunk on November 26, 2006, 05:24:00 PM
i have evox running on my box. thats about all i no , i no i can turn the mod on and off with a cd. ok is it possible 2 just turn the softmod off and play xbox live? cus that would be kick ass and i wouldnt have 2 deal with alll that other stuff.
thanks guys i wish i was as smart as u