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Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on December 30, 2004, 10:31:00 PM
HOTSWAPPING FAQS
Hot swapping is the act of allowing the xbox to unlock the hard drive, so that you can gain access to it, by connecting it to a PC or Another Xbox. It involves removing the IDE ribbon from the Drive, while it is power on.

Do you need to have the EEPROM.bin or HD locking key?
NO, this is basically the reasoning for hotswapping. You are allowing the Xbox to unlock the hard drive for you, and then swapping the cable, so it will not lock until a reboot signal is received or power is lost.

When is the drive unlocked?
The Xbox HD DOES NOT unlock when your xbox boots into an error 6 or 7. The drive is usually unlocked for a short period on Xbox Errors 11, 12, 13, 16, & error 21, but Errors 11 & 12 are the preferable errors to do the hotswap. It is also unlocked inside the m$ dash, and also during gameplay.

What programs are available to hotswap into?
Ldots's XboxHDM v1.9
 is the only program you should use. Windows based program just DONT have the support for what you are doing. One reason for this is Windows doesnt support this.
**There are a few issues that need to be discussed before we start**

1. Is Hot-Swapping Safe? No , according to ANSI Standards , IDE was not designed to allow for the disconnection of then supply ribbon interface while the ribbon is 'HOT'. Some dangers thats could arise during this action.

a. Electrical grounding backflow, this cannot be avoided, but can be decreased by running a ground strap or using the PC's power connector. This could physcially make the drive fail, or worse fry your motherboard.

b. Hard Disk Drive Shock, obviously you cannot avoid shaking the drive while you are removing the cable, this is also why we loosen the cable first, but you might be able to avoid shaking it as much if you understand the internals of the drive, think of it as a record player, but spinning at 5400+ RPMs (car engines usually run @ 2500), and theres a needle reading from it, the records are like glass, and one quick jolt, and its a scratch on the disk or worse a head crash. Becareful.


2. Grounding issues. The xbox uses a floating ground. Which means, since the top case if off, there is a hole in the grounding. There are 2 ways to eliminate this issue.
 
a. Is to run a grounding strap between the PC chassis, and the Xbox Metal.
b. Is to use the PC Power supply for the Power feed to the Xbox Hard Drive.


3. Since you are working with operational Electrical components, make sure you are fully grounded, make sure you have no built up static electricity.(touch something metal before starting.)

4. Repeated attempts of hotswapping, can lead to Hardware failure, Please only do this as a last resort.

5. There is NO garentee that this will work for you, it is an ART, and must be practiced to get right sometimes. The ways posted here have worked for me & countless others.
Be advised, you follow this under your own trust-worthyness, if you dont feel comfortable, dont do it.

YOU READY?

Start by Downloading the program you will be using, XboxHDM is highly recommended, but you can use your choice of software. This guide uses XboxHDM thou, so follow as best you can. Read about XboxHDM here!
** XboxHDM is a LINUX Distro. LINUX is CASE-Sensitive, so when you are prompted to type 'yes' or 'no' Please type yes or no, not y or n... This is very important, and will save you some headaches, and some flamers.

Also download your Exploit you will be using, this Tut uses UXE
 as it is the latest exploit available.
UXE Complete v0.2.x is available at the usual spots, and is great for using with this tutorial. *** Please read & setup UXE complete according to its readme file. Check post #242 for my help with setting it up also.

PC Prep

Extract XboxHDM, you can take a look at it after you extract it, Everything we will be dealing with is in the LINUX folder.

Notice the C E & EEPROM Folders, We dont have an EEPROM yet, so ignore that.

Setup UXE-Complete , and place the file in the LINUX C & E folder respectively.
Go back into the folder where you saw LINUX, and in there is a .BAT file called make-win-iso.bat,  just double click it, and a DOS box will show up for a few seconds. Then it will disappear, and a LINUX.ISO will be created.

This is a bootable CD image, and you can burn this using any burning software that supports RAW writing mode. (If your software gives you the option to burn an image, then choose that).
After that, reboot with the CD in Your First CDROM drive, (It can be a CDROM/CDRW/DVDROM/DVDRW, anything that can boot the cd you made).

Did the CD Boot? If yes, everything is well. If Not, then you either didnt write the cd correctly, or your PC BIOS is not set to boot from the CD, Correct this and try again, Proceed when you successfully booted from the CD. (There are too many PC BIOS's out there to describe how to set each one, Try visiting your MotherBoard Manufactors homepage to set this up.) Or look for a program called 'Smart Boot Manager'.

A Few words of advice.
I always hear the best time to hook your XboxHD into your PC is at the POST screen, and hit pause,
IMO this entirly false, and the reason being is that this is one reason for security freezing. I Always wait until the XboxHDM main screen comes up to hookup the hard drive, this often will avoid conflicts with the PC BIOS, as it will find no hard drive, and not interfer with XboxHDM's access to the drive. You have 300 seconds to make the swap, if this is not enough time, I show you how to increase the default boot time in the next post (scroll down).

Xbox Prep

Ok so remove the xbox top (using the 6 Torx screws on the bottom) and set this as close to the pc you can get it. ATTENSION The Xbox must have the Video Molex connector connected to the xbox to unlock the hard drive, IT HOWEVER doesnt need to be hooked to the TV, just the xbox.

OK, the most successful method to get the xbox to unlock the HD is to unplug the XBOX DVDROM IDE cable. Leave the Yellow/White cable hooked to the DVDROM, and leave the XBOX IDE hooked to the XBOX HD (loosely as it is usually tight, and difficult to remove, you are working against time, so you need to be quick)
**Again, the XBOX IDE Ribbon should be connected to the Xbox MotherBoard & Xbox HD Only.
**You should recieve an Error 11 or 12, if you recieve an Error 7 then your IDE ribbon is too loose, and the hd will never get unlocked with an error 5, 6, or 7.

**If you are doing a hotswap in BLIND mode (No tv hooked), then I found in my experience, that if your using the Error 12 method, that you should disconnect the Xbox HD IDE at the exact moment that the LED goes to RED Flashing. (By EXACT, I mean pull the cable out exactly when the LED changes, watch it a few times before doing it, count!)
I have never had any problems hotswapping at this exact moment.


You can also hook you PC Power connector to the Xbox hd at this time. This will spin the HD up ahead of time and get you to the XboxHDM screen.

It is recommended to SEE the xbox boot, but it isnt required.

Lets Do IT

Ok boot the PC before the Xbox or at the same time, the xbox takes around 8 seconds to reach the part where the White M$ logo appears at the bottom of the screen, at this point the HD will click a few times, At this exact point, swap the XBOX IDE cable, with the PC IDE cable. (the PC Primary IDE cable, is the Last connector on IDE Channel 0, which is usually connected to your PC's HD, so this will need to be disconnnected ahead of time.)

If you are using the PC power connector, then it is safe to turn the xbox off, if not leave it on till were done.

Boot into Option 2 on the XboxHDM CD. (Option 1 & 2 are the exactly the same, except for graphic modes, Option 1 uses graphic mode, Option 2 uses Text mode)

The XboxHDM will whine about not being able to read the hard drive partitions, this is normal, and then you will be brought to a prompt.

Backup your C before you install the exploit

This will be done using XBROWSER, so go ahead and fire it up by typing
xbrowser
at the prompt.

From there, hit TAB to access the xbox hard drive, and hit the DOWN ARROW to highlight /E, then hit ENTER.

Hit F7 to create a new DIR on E , name it ORIG_BACKUP. Then hit TAB to return to the CD side of xbrowser.

Now highlight the /.. and hit ENTER. Hit the DOWN ARROW until the /PriMas is highlighted then hit ENTER.

Highlight the /C and hit F5, this will bring up the copy dialog, just hit ENTER to begin the transfer. This will backup the complete XBOX C into the folder E:\ORIG_BACKUP\C.

Now hit F10 to drop you back to the prompt.

Install the Exploit

You have a few options here, but we are only concerned with typing
xboxhd
This is a excellent script that Ldots has written for us, and it will bring up a nice little menu.

Install Exploit 1 (Already Partitioned HD)
We are only concerned with Option 2 {Rebuild C Partition} ***(WARNING, this will delete everything on the C partition, Make sure you backup or C)***

This formats the C, and then copies the contents of CDROM\C into PriMas\C, (when prompted type  yes  )and then drop you back to the menu
Exit the menu, and fire up xbrowser, on the left side point to CDROM\E\ROOT in the right side point to PriMas\E, then F5 to copy the ROOT folder.
F10 to exit. (proceed to Resume section.)

Install Exploit 2 (Un-Partition HD *Needs EEPROM *Requires Locking)
All you need to run is Option 1 and it will wipe the complete drive, partition & format the drive, and then copy the CDROM\C & CDROM\E to PriMas\C & PriMas\E (when prompted type  yes  ). Then drop to the menu again.

Resume
After it is finished, your xbox hd will be ready, so hit Option 8 to drop back to the prompt and type
poweroff

the computer will shutdown, and the HD will automatically be re-locked. Hook your xbox back up properly, leave the top cover off (just in case).

Did it work?

If everything went correctly, you'll boot the expoit, and then the first thing you should do is run Evox's BACKUP function in SETTINGS, and this will create a BACKUP folder on the Xbox in the Same folder as the Evox XBE file.
Get the EEPROM

FTP in and grab this folder. In it, is the EEPROM.BIN.

Re-burn the CD with the eeprom

Now you can re-create the XboxHDM CD with the your current C, E & EEPROM folders. This will become your restore cd, or you can use it to upgrade/restore your hd.

Some other Tips
QUOTE
People with a 1.5 or 1.6 who are having problems hotswapping:

- put an audio cd in the xbox
- copy one track to the hd
- play the track from the HD, let play for a few seconds
- pause the song
- you HDD is now ready for hotswap!

- BTW: the button sequence for starting a soundtrack without seeing it on-screen is: A + DOWN + A + A + A(play)..wait...A(pause)


Also see Posts #5, #9 & #242 for more information.

This post has been edited by DaddyJ: Jun 8 2006, 08:17 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: krayzie on December 31, 2004, 12:12:00 AM
Looks very acurate. This can be helpfull to many people.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: triggernum5 on December 31, 2004, 04:11:00 AM
Yo DaddyJ, you can't be honest with noobs..  When they ask if there is any other software that can do this for them, the correct answer to give them is: "No xboxhdm 1.9 is the only software ever written for this task..smile.gif "..  Then cut them off quick when they start mumbling about hdd driver..smile.gif
Couple of things about hotswapping that 'I think' I know:
-Loosening the cable to the xbox hdd before beginning is awesome advice..  I loosen mine to the point where it will fall off if I let go of it..
If the no-dvd trick doesn't work:  You can hotswap with the hdd unlocked from any dash/game..  Just avoid doing it if any serious data transfers are occuring..
If the no-dvd trick doesn't work, no dash will boot, and no games will load:
-As the xbox boots, the hdd is briefly unlocked right about the time the XBOX test appears under the X-Logo.  The hdd will stay unlocked until a split second after the MS text appears..  (Assuming the MS text is ever going to appear.  The appearance of the MS text indicates that any xboxdash.xbe was found..)  
Wierd Shit:  Should your xbox display the X-Logo on the screen but not the XBOX text below, then jump straight to an error such as 13/16/21, AFAIK the kernel is reporting an error 6 incorrectly.  (Error 6 sucks ass btw)
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: adil786 on December 31, 2004, 04:20:00 AM
looks good, yet another great tut made by the xcellent members of the xbe community.

cheers, lets have a beer now  beerchug.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on December 31, 2004, 10:40:00 AM
XboxHDM & Misc Tips can be found here!

1. How to increase the time XboxHDM sits at the main menu, this would give you more time to swap, and not have to fool with your PC BIOS, and hitting pause and all that good junk.

Once you have extracted the XboxHDM contents, browse thru the folders and look into this folder '\linux\isolinux' folder for a file named 'isolinux.cfg'
Open this file with Notepad or Wordpad. Look for this line
'timeout 300' 300/60 = 5min (Thats a long time, but it goes quick wink.gif )
change it to something like
'timeout 600' 600/60 = 10min (there ya go, doubled the amount of time you get)

Save the file, and re-create the linux.iso file.

XboxHDM Packages
I always like doing things manually, but sometimes that isnt always an option, especially when hotswapping. So I use UXE-Complete v0.2.x , this is a great package, and only takes a little pc prep, before we place it on the cd.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: triggernum5 on December 31, 2004, 04:17:00 PM
I forgot to comment on the quality of your tutorial..  Yet another great compilation of info for noobs to ignore..smile.gif  
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on December 31, 2004, 04:48:00 PM
QUOTE(triggernum5 @ Dec 31 2004, 06:48 PM)
Yet another great compilation of info for noobs to ignore..smile.gif
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Completely wink.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: krayzie on January 01, 2005, 06:08:00 AM
QUOTE(triggernum5 @ Jan 1 2005, 12:48 AM)
Yet another great compilation of info for noobs to ignore..smile.gif
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sigh.... If only I could say you were wrong.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 01, 2005, 01:26:00 PM
Adding a gamesave, thru hotswapping

So you dont have a memory card, or dont feel like cutting your controller card to make a home-made action replay, but you have an exploitable game, and would like to use the gamesave?

Well this is a enhancement on my hotswapping tut above, and uses XboxHDM to get the job done. So read along if you want to know how to do it.

Get your gamesave
Most gamesaves come in a ZIP format, and in the archive either contain a UDATA folder or just the {titleID} folder.
For this method, we are only concerned with the {titleID} folder, in this example I will be using 007:AuF which its titleID is 4541000d.

So download the save, and extract the gamesave so you have just the {titleID} folder.
 (Example = c:\4541000d is the folder I am after)

Now that you have this folder.

Place it on the XboxHDM CD
 (By now, you should realize, when modding your xbox, its worth the $2 bucks to buy a CD-RW disk, so that you can keep re-writing the new linux.iso to it.)

Anyways, place that folder into the XboxHDM's E Folder, and re-create the iso.

XBROWSER is your friend
I was surprised to learn, people fear xbrowser, but there is nothing to fear. It does all the work for you, when you first start xbrowser, it will automatically look for the xbox hd, and it will mount it, and the CD.

Xbrowser is a basic ASCII GUI to alot of linux commands, We are only concerned with the ARROW KEYS, TAB, F5, and the ENTER key.

What to look for
When xbrowser starts, the CD contents will be listed in the LEFT pane, and the Xbox HD will be listed in the RIGHT pane.
TAB switches between the 2 panes, so go ahead and hit TAB to highlight the XBOX HD, then hit the DOWN ARROW KEY until the /E is highlighted, then hit ENTER.

If there is no UDATA folder, then you will need to create one by pressing F7 and then type UDATA and hitting ENTER. This will create the new folder, Go ahead and highlight it, and hit ENTER to navigate into this folder.

Now hit TAB to return to the CD, and navigate to where you placed the gamesave folder. (usually always E).

Highlight the gamesave folder, and hit F5 to copy it to the XboxHD, a confirmation dialog will appear, just hit ENTER to begin the transfer.

Great JOB

Once this is done, you have successfully transfered a gamesave via hotswap. Hope that clears some confusion about that, and if you have something to add, please add it.

**Word to the wise
XboxHDM is not without faults, when using xboxhdm to write to the E, it is know to corrupt the E partition, causing the retail kernal to see it as corrupt and therefor read-only. You can always avoid this, by booting your exploit, and FTPing into the E and backing it up to the PC, and then without powering down the box, Format the E, and FTP the E back onto the Xbox, this will fix any gamesave error that occured, and is also the reason for needing to delete the e:\cache folder.

Hotswapping a gamesave is only neccessary if you dont have a memory card, but own an exploitable game wink.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: triggernum5 on January 01, 2005, 03:26:00 PM
Can't hurt to add all the exploitable gamesaves..  Never know what might save your ass some day..  Word of advice though, you should avoid playing/saving any games that you rely on for hdd access since they don't like it if other profiles are present in the game's {titleid} folder..
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 01, 2005, 06:04:00 PM
QUOTE(triggernum5 @ Jan 1 2005, 05:57 PM)
Can't hurt to add all the exploitable gamesaves..  Never know what might save your ass some day..  Word of advice though, you should avoid playing/saving any games that you rely on for hdd access since they don't like it if other profiles are present in the game's {titleid} folder..
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Great word of advice, thanks for the link in your sig.  beerchug.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 02, 2005, 05:52:00 PM
I'll be updating with a few more practicle procedures soon.

Such as Xbox to Xbox Hotswapping, and a few other need to know basics.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: kizm0 on January 03, 2005, 09:37:00 PM
your tutorial probably broke peoples computers and xboxs or no1 attempted it , because if you were to copy the exploit onto the C folder on the disk and do a recompile option of the C: drive , then your whole C: drive wold be erased and the only thing that would be copied is the fonts folder rofl...and the exploit



 you didint say that you should backup , another problem with this sucky tutorial ...



This post has been edited by kizm0: Jan 4 2005, 05:39 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: sony3d on January 03, 2005, 11:22:00 PM
QUOTE(kizm0 @ Jan 4 2005, 06:08 AM)
your tutorial probably broke peoples computers and xboxs or no1 attempted it , because if you were to copy the exploit onto the C folder on the disk and do a recompile option of the C: drive , then your whole C: drive wold be erased and the only thing that would be copied is the fonts folder rofl...and the exploit
 you didint say that you should backup , another problem with this sucky tutorial ...
*



You need to learn how to read.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 04, 2005, 04:09:00 AM
QUOTE(kizm0)
you didint say that you should backup


That is about the only thing you got right. But the M$ dash is so easy to regain, that a backup isnt really required.

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: triggernum5 on January 04, 2005, 05:57:00 AM
smile.gif
BTW Kizmo, I secretly laugh at ppl who are too stupid to backup their eeprom info off of their xbox hdd..  Seriously it wouldn't surprise me if there were 50000 posts on this board outlining that..  As good as this tut is, anyone who jumps right into it without reading anything else desrves what happens to them..  Myself and many other members though are willing to bail ppl out buying newbed up xboxes..   IIRC correctly krayzie was offering a working game of choice for any xbox pumping out error 13-21..  Offer probably still stands..smile.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: celinedrules on January 04, 2005, 09:32:00 AM
QUOTE(kizm0 @ Jan 3 2005, 09:08 PM)
your tutorial probably broke peoples computers and xboxs or no1 attempted it , because if you were to copy the exploit onto the C folder on the disk and do a recompile option of the C: drive , then your whole C: drive wold be erased and the only thing that would be copied is the fonts folder rofl...and the exploit
 you didint say that you should backup , another problem with this sucky tutorial ...
*


This stupid idiot thinks he knows everything when in fact he knows nothing. Has anyone read his tutorials that he wrote?  rotfl.gif

Anyways, good job DaddyJ.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: triggernum5 on January 04, 2005, 10:44:00 AM
QUOTE
This stupid idiot thinks he knows everything when in fact he knows nothing. Has anyone read his tutorials that he wrote?
Its not that he doesn't know anything..  I mean he has a definately knows how to find obsolete software.. jester.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 04, 2005, 11:11:00 AM
Its just really sad, that the boards get flooded with obsolete tutorials like that, and then we end up having to help all the poor souls that follow them.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 04, 2005, 11:46:00 AM
I'm adding this, just because it wasnt stated in my previous tutorials.

How to backup your C before you install the exploit

This will be done using XBROWSER, so go ahead and fire it up by typing
xbrowser
at the prompt.

From there, hit TAB to access the xbox hard drive, and hit the DOWN ARROW to highlight /E, then hit enter.

Hit F7 to create a new DIR on E , name it ORIG_BACKUP. Then hit TAB to return to the CD side of xbrowser.

Now highlight the /.. and hit ENTER. Hit the DOWN ARROW until the /PriMas is highlighted then hit ENTER.

Highlight the /C and hit F5, this will bring up the copy dialog, just hit enter to begin the transfer. This will backup the complete XBOX C into the folder E:\ORIG_BACKUP\C.

Any other questions or concerns, post it.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: BlackWar on January 04, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
and yet some peeps think xboxhdm is too hard or too much of a pain to use (because of having to spend 10 seconds to reboot it now and then....).

good work daddyj!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: BlackWar on January 04, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
DaddyJ, I would like to add something to your tutorial that may be usefull..

I have found out that if you time the xbox bootup (around 8 sec like DaddyJ mentioned), you will find out that it will boot up almost exactly same amount of time each and every time. By knowing this, if you time it to pull the IDE cable JUST BEFORE the MS text appears, the HD will be unlocked.

The reason for this is because if for some reason you fubar the mod and get errors, it is extreamly difficult to hotswap the drive, because as soon as the MS logo appears, it will lock the HD right away and go to the XSOD (xbox screen of death, lol). by knowing the timing, you can pull the IDE cable JUST BEFORE the logo appears and the drive is unlocked.

So, it is safe to assume that the xbox HD is fully unlocked between the points of the "X fully opened up" and the MS logo, but it is easier and safer to pull the IDE a second BEFORE the MS logo appears.


also, before you boot the xbox, start the PC and right before it goes through the IDE detection, press the "pause/Break" key (usually above the Page Up key). then start the xbox, then hotswap, then hit either spacebar or enter to get your PC to resume. (this is where hooking up a spare power connecter from the PC to the xbox HD comes in handy.)

I hope this helps those tring to hotswap a fubared softmod. It took me a short while to find this out.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 04, 2005, 01:34:00 PM
Thanks, this has been taken care of....
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: everardo on January 11, 2005, 12:29:00 PM
DaddyJ, I owe you two high fives and a giant beer (or vice versa if you'd like.) This tutorial saved my xbox, along with the great folks who made Xboxhdm. Thanks!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: L-Pimp on January 15, 2005, 07:55:00 AM
great tutorial.
i'm almost ready to begin
but one question.  what if your formated your orginal stock drive.
how can u get my epprom ? and the stock is what i wnat in the xbox
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: mcnutty on January 16, 2005, 11:16:00 PM
Great Tutorial


Thanks and Thanks again ......
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 19, 2005, 06:48:00 AM
Glad to help.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Vivaatloni on January 22, 2005, 06:51:00 AM
Hi there DaddyJ,

Thx 4 the guide.

By copying the uxe exploit to c:\ and following your tutorial what changes ond my xbox? Is a bios installed, cause I can't see a bios anywhere in the folder. And wenn yes, what bios is installed.

Thx 4 the anwsers
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 22, 2005, 12:23:00 PM
Depends, if its UXE compete, then it is set to use NKPatcher which doesnt need a bios.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Vivaatloni on January 23, 2005, 04:51:00 AM
OK, I read youre manual in this topic.
I have a new xbox and want it to be modded without a modchip. Wenn I follow youre tutorial, what can I do?

Can I install for instance XBMC as dash, or in evox, can I flash the tsop with the bios update tool?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: cmiz on January 23, 2005, 06:17:00 AM
with a softmodded box you can do anything a box with a chip can do except change the boot screen and boot up from an unlocked hard drive.....so that's a yes on the xbmc and evox...you can't flash the bios though, softmods only affect things in memory
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 24, 2005, 05:34:00 PM
Updated main post with a few more tips.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 26, 2005, 10:43:00 AM
Updated main post , with some more useful information.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: The Quest on January 27, 2005, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: DaddyJ,Dec 31 2004, 06:55 AM
Hotswapping FAQ's

Re-create the CD

Now you can re-create the XboxHDM with the C folder & EEPROM. This will become your restore cd, or you can use it to upgrade your hd.

Could you give me more detail step here. thanks
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 27, 2005, 12:50:00 PM
When working with anyones xbox, i use cdrw disks, then the first burn I just burn the exploit, then after I successfully get thier eeprom.bin.
I update the eeprom folder with the eeprom.bin and recreate the iso, and finalize the burn onto a cdr disk.

This post has been edited by DaddyJ: Jan 27 2005, 08:51 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: The Quest on January 27, 2005, 01:26:00 PM
I had 2 eeprom.bin  
 one in Backup\backup folder with: bios.bin, disk.bin, eeprom.bin, hddinfo.tex, hddkey.bin.
 another in backup_linux folder with: C.md5sum, C.tar.gz, eeprom.bin, hdd_info.tex, xbox_info.tex.

these two eeprom.bin have 1KB each, I don't know if the file writing are the same. which eeprom.bin should I update to the eeprom folder? it it the only eeprom.bin that I put in there?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 27, 2005, 01:34:00 PM
They both should be the same, but to be safe, load up evox as a application, and run the backup function in settings, this will back a BACKUP folder in the same directory as the evox.xbe file, and inside of there will be an eeprom.bin, use this one, as it is for sure the correct one.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: The Quest on January 27, 2005, 02:08:00 PM
That what I did, in Backup\backup folder. I will try this one, Thank you verymuch for confirming and quick answers.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: lucho on January 27, 2005, 08:14:00 PM
Tried your info DaddyJ on hotswapping just as a test.  I made an XBHDM Recovery CD with no eeprom and put stock files on C, the on E put exploits, roms, apps, etc.  even put a folder called PC Apps so I can ftp up to a pc after exploit.  Tried your tutorial, worked first time.  Ran exploit, bam, shadowC, and all apps were there when done.  

Thanks

Lucho
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: turnkeyfriend on January 28, 2005, 07:20:00 PM
Hey there. I've been reading all sorts of tutorials for the past few weeks. Printed out a bunch as well. I only have a couple question remaining...

I plan on following this tutorial to a T. Was gonna change booting locations, but since this is my first xbox mod, I figured I'd play it safe and use the UXE complete package stock. This concerns the swapping time. I've read a couple tutorials that said you can swap while the xbox is sitting at the M$ dash, and the comp is sitting at the first xboxhdm menu. Is this true? And does the swap itself need to be done quickly? Perhaps some sort of signal need to remain mostly unbroken?

Thanks for any help!

Turnkeyfriend
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Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 28, 2005, 08:20:00 PM
The hard drive should be unlocked at the m$ dash, but the actual swap should be done fairly quick, I havent ever tested leaving the IDE ribbon off the HD in an unlocked state.

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: misterhoangdai on February 01, 2005, 08:37:00 PM
hey guys, my xboxHDM didnt come with a C, E or Eeprom folders within the linux folder. can i just create those two folders or was it suppose to come with C and E folders that had some necessary files in there?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on February 01, 2005, 08:44:00 PM
Redownload it from here

This version has the correct folders.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on February 01, 2005, 09:01:00 PM
Updated Main Post with some more useful info, and links to other good hotswapping tutorials.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: luther349 on February 01, 2005, 10:03:00 PM
and when everyone post hear with damaged hardware you can point all blame to him.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: jonathan2007 on February 01, 2005, 10:34:00 PM
QUOTE(luther349 @ Feb 1 2005, 11:09 PM)
and when everyone post hear with damaged hardware you can point all blame to him.
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Why don't you shut the heck up? I am getting tired of all your flamming about hotswapping. Stop acting like a baby.  dry.gif  @ DaddyJ nice work on this. Very useful information. Hope to see it pinned if it isn't already.  smile.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: cmiz on February 01, 2005, 11:17:00 PM
luther...i'm honestly wondering why you have such a negative feeling about hotswapping. the vast majority of people that i've talked to that have done it have not broken anything. in the very rare situations where hardware is broken, it's always (in my experience) a shoddy job of hotswapping. i had to do it for a friend one time (i'm a gamesave/backup eeprom kinda guy myself, like you) and it went through without a hitch.

i'm just wondering why you have a completely different take on it.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: turnkeyfriend on February 03, 2005, 05:59:00 PM
Hey. I successfully hotswapped on the first try. Thank you so much for this tutorial DaddyJ. I found at least 6 different guides, and this one made the most sense to me. Just a note: I had the IDE cable off of the xbox hdd between 30-60 seconds before I got the comp IDE cable on it. And it still detected fine in xboxhdm. Again, thank you!

P.S. Now I'm off to try to understand the whole shadow c thing. Friend wants his box modded but still wants xboxLive (*scoff*) I'll start with your tut and move on to Krayzie's.  beerchug.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: killerkiko on February 03, 2005, 06:21:00 PM
hi, im trying to use the xboxhdm. ive got the cd burnt correctly with the gamesaves in the right place but when i get to the menu and press 1 it loads two things and reboots my machine......... blink.gif   huh.gif blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif WTF??????? ive tried it on 2 different comps and it gives me the same crap. thx

francisico
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on February 03, 2005, 06:38:00 PM
QUOTE(killerkiko @ Feb 3 2005, 08:27 PM)
hi, im trying to use the xboxhdm. ive got the cd burnt correctly with the gamesaves in the right place but when i get to the menu and press 1 it loads two things and reboots my machine......... blink.gif   huh.gif blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif WTF??????? ive tried it on 2 different comps and it gives me the same crap. thx

francisico


This is usually a result of a conflict in memory. Try disabling HD detection in your PC BIOS, or wait & connect the Xbox HD at the XboxHDM menu.

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: bikr on February 10, 2005, 02:54:00 PM
QUOTE
After it is finished, your xbox hd will be ready to disconnect, so hit Option 8 to drop back to the prompt and type
poweroff

the computer will shutdown, and the HD will automatically be re-locked. Hook your xbox back up properly, leave the top cover off (just in case).



Is it just me or does this seem wrong?  How will the pc lock the drive back without the key?  Are you sure you don't need to attatch the drive back to the still powered on xbox for it to lock it on poweroff?

--Bikr
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on February 10, 2005, 03:18:00 PM
QUOTE(bikr @ Feb 10 2005, 04:53 PM)
Is it just me or does this seem wrong?  How will the pc lock the drive back without the key?  Are you sure you don't need to attatch the drive back to the still powered on xbox for it to lock it on poweroff?

--Bikr
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He is hotswapping, the drive will relock automatically.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on February 11, 2005, 09:05:00 PM
Updated Main Post with yet some more information & a few warnings for pete's sake.

Also updated second post with some XboxHDM Tips, so check that post as well.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: luther349 on February 11, 2005, 10:45:00 PM
at least thers a warning now.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on February 12, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
QUOTE(luther349 @ Feb 12 2005, 12:44 AM)
at least thers a warning now.
*



Just for you buddy, smile.gif
 beerchug.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Xirixrus on February 13, 2005, 12:04:00 AM


Thanks for Great Tut.  It worked Perfect  for me. The only problem i had was getting the drive unlocked but it only took three tries at it.  Just after the X opens and before the m$ logo comes up was where it worked for me. Thanks again.


Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: SnaveZ on February 16, 2005, 08:19:00 PM
I can't ever launch Xbrowser....

I get error 12...and the ribbons are switched...but it can't find the drive...

I need to talk to someone on MSN or AIM or something...to help me...

This is the farest I have gotten...

someone help me?

SnaveZ  sad.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: SnaveZ on February 16, 2005, 10:08:00 PM
ok...I got so far as to have the drive seen by the linux distro...

it just can't see the partition...

I tried over and over hotswapping...and I still can't get that partition seen...

what am I doing worng?

SnaveZ sad.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on February 17, 2005, 07:50:00 AM
Can you explain a little more.
Cant see the partitions when trying to load xbrowser? or xboxhd?

This can be a result of the drive still being locked, so your hotswap method needs to be improved.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: SnaveZ on February 17, 2005, 10:08:00 AM
QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Feb 17 2005, 02:56 PM)
Can you explain a little more.
Cant see the partitions when trying to load xbrowser? or xboxhd?

This can be a result of the drive still being locked, so your hotswap method needs to be improved.
*




ok...what happens is...I boot the Xbox...and leave it on the dash...

then I boot the comp...till it comes to the linux screen for making the selection of the modes...

I quickly swap the IDE cables...a few secs later...the linux disk loads...and lists what the steps are that it will do to my xbox...with backing up and all...

if I go to load xbrowser...it says something like, "found drive on primary" then ti says it can't find the partition...

same goes for if I launch xboxhd...I get the same error...found drive...partition not found...

I'm soo lost on this right now...

ooo...and also...I have the computer hard drive on master and cd drive on slave on the Primary IDE...

I was talking to someone on IRC about this...he does soft and hard mods all the time...

he didn't even know what I can do about it not finding the partition...

can someone list the steps in deep detail of what to do?

BTW...I have Xbox v1.6...

thanks for the help!

SnaveZ smile.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on February 17, 2005, 10:49:00 AM
try using the error 12 method as in my tutorial above.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: SnaveZ on February 17, 2005, 11:16:00 AM
I still can't get this...I tried it like 10 times...

what happens is that when the X appears on the screen...it immediately goes to Error 12...

my computer that I'm using for the modding...has the PC hard drive on master...and cd on slave...on the primary IDE...

After the X shows on the screen...I try as fast as I can...to connect the IDE from the Xbox...or the computer...but there is like a split second...between the X and Error 12...

I have to have the CD drive...and Hard drive connected to the computer in order for the computer to boot from the CD...otherwise the computer beeps the error for not finding the hard drive...

am I doing this right?

the tutorial is confusing :s

SnaveZ sad.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: FunkMasterY2K on February 17, 2005, 04:19:00 PM
Instead of editing the config file, why not just hit the "1" key and then it bypasses the defualt time and will sit forever at the main screen?

thats what i do, wait for the screen to come up, put a 1 in myself then turn on xbox and swap harddrive.

Just a tip for new hard drive swapping people, I find it works best if you leave the DVD plugged in and use a power source from you comp, almost always works in 1 try.  Also pull the xbox IDE cable from the HDD right after the sound is done playing when the BIG X comes up. If you can have the white MS word at the bottom when you pull the IDE you will have success..... well I have success that way.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: SnaveZ on February 17, 2005, 07:36:00 PM
I can now see the drive...but it won't unlock...

what do I do now to get the drive unlocked?

when I try to run unlockhd -a...it can't find the eerpom.bin...what util do I use to extract me eeprom.bin from my xbox...and save it on lets say...mmm...a floppy?

SnaveZ sad.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on February 18, 2005, 04:55:00 PM
You are still incorrectly hotswapping. The whole point of hotswapping is to install the exploit to obtain the eeprom.
I've wrote this tutorial to be as easy as it can be.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: S7A7S on February 20, 2005, 04:13:00 PM
If I use buy an unlocked Hard Drive off E-bay, will I be able to do this hotswap, and have it relock automatically when I finish?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on February 20, 2005, 04:16:00 PM
QUOTE(S7A7S @ Feb 20 2005, 06:12 PM)
If I use buy an unlocked Hard Drive off E-bay, will I be able to do this hotswap, and have it relock automatically when I finish?
*



NO
A retail kernal cannot boot an unlocked HD. You will need a chip to boot the unlocked hd, then lock it using your eeprom. then remove the chip.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: S7A7S on February 20, 2005, 04:52:00 PM
Alright, I'll just try using my hard-drive instead of buying another. Thanks.
Edit*: If it's not much trouble, could you look at my reply in "Something Disappeared?" It'll be very much appreciated. Thanks.

This post has been edited by S7A7S: Feb 21 2005, 12:53 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: scubadiverx3 on February 25, 2005, 02:19:00 PM
this is a fantastic tutorial for hotswap, i was reading for days but no tutorial make me feel confortable as yours, so i tried and now my xbox is back to normal thanks to you and a also thaks to a friendly guy IAmCanadian how pointed me to this tutorial...

thanks you all
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: triggernum5 on February 25, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
Its not just a tutorial, its an extremely coherent tutorial..  smile.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Strummer12 on February 26, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
I am a complete and utter n00b when it comes to soft modding, but I have to say these tutorials helped me greatly!  I hotswapped my xbox and it worked on the first time so shortly after, I got my exploits on and my box was modded!  That just rocks!  Thanks to all you tutorial makers!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: mananimalterl on March 04, 2005, 05:10:00 AM
Thanks DaddyJ for the great tutorial on hotswapping.  Between this and ldots tutorial on Xboxhdm, I restored my Xbox that I was sure was gone forever.  Thanks!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: S7A7S on March 09, 2005, 08:48:00 AM
I've been recently TRYING to hotswap, but I could never get the timing right. I tried taking out the DVD IDE cable but the light never went to the flashing green/red, it just stayed at a steady green sometimes, and every once in a while I'd get the flashing and I'd swap, and I even tried running a game and swapping while the game was going. But I always get the error where it says no drive was found. Does anybody have an idea as to what I'm doing wrong? I've read three tutorials already, and followed them specifically, but I always get the same results.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: triggernum5 on March 09, 2005, 09:26:00 AM
Are you loosening the cable before powering on the xbox?  I find wiggling it alot during removal reduces the chances it will stay unlocked..  The drive is unlocked when games are loaded..  Are you sure you are attaching it to your pc properly?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on March 09, 2005, 10:01:00 AM
you should be removing the dvd ide ribbon before you power the xbox up also.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: S7A7S on March 09, 2005, 11:07:00 AM
I'm am unplugging it before turning on the X-box, and as far as I know, I'm hooking it up to the computer properly.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TommyNL on March 12, 2005, 07:23:00 AM
Hi,

I'm hotswappping for the first time only i still get the same error again and again...
Who knows this problem...

When i come to the part of the tutorial wich says to run xbrowser it tryes to find the xbox hard disk wich i plugged in the right way;  primary master but it can't find the harddisk....

What am i doing wrong... Please help...

thx.

Tom.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on March 12, 2005, 11:32:00 AM
QUOTE(TommyNL @ Mar 12 2005, 09:22 AM)
Hi,

I'm hotswappping for the first time only i still get the same error again and again...
Who knows this problem...

When i come to the part of the tutorial wich says to run xbrowser it tryes to find the xbox hard disk wich i plugged in the right way;  primary master but it can't find the harddisk....

What am i doing wrong... Please help...

thx.

Tom.
*



In my experience this can be caused by two things.
The drive is in fact not detected by the system, or the drive is still locked.

attempt the hotswap again, paying more attension to the timing of the hotswap.

also make sure you hook your hd up after the pc bios detection, this seems to work better in some cases.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: kabouter on March 13, 2005, 07:23:00 AM
Back to it.

You have a few options here, but we are only concerned with typing
xboxhd

This is a excellent script that Ldots has written for us, and it will bring up a nice little menu. With Several Choices. We are only concerned with Option 2 {Rebuild C Partition} ***(WARNING, this will delete everything on the C partition, Make sure you backup or C)***(This is also why I choose C only Exploits, as If you have info on E that is required, you will either need to run Option 1 and wipe the complete drive, or manually transfer these files needed in XBROWSER. See My next post.)

After it formats the C partiton, it will look on the CD for any files that were placed in the C folder before we made our ISO. It will ask you if you want to copy the files, type
yes


hI, with great respect I have red this tut, but...
at this point things went wrong.
can you please describe how this is done?
My C is formatted but then the CD spins and stops without doing any installation.
can you please inform me where to look for? and is it maybe possible to copy all nesecerry files to the Xbox with the xbrouwser?
thanks,
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: kabouter on March 13, 2005, 10:46:00 AM
QUOTE(kabouter @ Mar 13 2005, 02:22 PM)
Back to it.

You have a few options here, but we are only concerned with typing
xboxhd

This is a excellent script that Ldots has written for us, and it will bring up a nice little menu. With Several Choices. We are only concerned with Option 2 {Rebuild C Partition} ***(WARNING, this will delete everything on the C partition, Make sure you backup or C)***(This is also why I choose C only Exploits, as If you have info on E that is required, you will either need to run Option 1 and wipe the complete drive, or manually transfer these files needed in XBROWSER. See My next post.)

After it formats the C partiton, it will look on the CD for any files that were placed in the C folder before we made our ISO. It will ask you if you want to copy the files, type
yes
hI, with great respect I have red this tut, but...
at this point things went wrong.
can you please describe how this is done?
My C is formatted but then the CD spins and stops without doing any installation.
can you please inform me where to look for? and is it maybe possible to copy all nesecerry files to the Xbox with the xbrouwser?
thanks,
*



 blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif
To add on my last question:
I get the following message after the format sequence: (and the cd starts to spin)
===========
how you can rebuild th c-drive with backup files
searching for files (error)
you will need to replace the CDrom with the one containing the C-pad E-drive files
eject:unable to eject, last error invalid argument
Insert source CD rom and push (enter)
Sarching for files (error)
cannot find system files
please report bug..
=======
any thoughts?
thanks,
kabouter
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on March 13, 2005, 01:00:00 PM
transfer the files mnaully using xbrowser
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: kabouter on March 13, 2005, 04:55:00 PM
QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Mar 13 2005, 07:59 PM)
transfer the files mnaully using xbrowser
*


hmmm,
I think I am a little closer to the solution; I had to copy the files in linux/c
this is what I tried with the UXE Complete v0.2.x -> these where copied on my xbox but nothing happend.
So I have red all the replies to you and came up with the xboxhdm installer from ldots. (same which did not worked due to the incorrect copie fo the files)
Now I have the following question:
*what to do with the files in SMINSTALLER and intird.gz? where they go?because the description in the readme.txt below doesnt seem to work.?????


(IN THIS FOLDER THERE IS ONE FILE AND ONE FOLDER (INITRD AND SMINSTALLER)

1. COPY THE INITRD FILE TO "LINUX>ISOLINUX" FOLDER. THERE IS A INITRD FILE ALREADY SO WINDOWS WILL ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO REWRITE, SAY "YES"

2. COPY THE "SMINSTALLER" FOLDER TO "LINUX" FOLDER, WHERE THERE IS ALSO OTHER FOLDERS LIEK C, E  ETC.

3. USE MAKE-ISO.WIN.BAT TO CREATE THE ISO))


Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: kabouter on March 14, 2005, 06:16:00 AM
QUOTE(kabouter @ Mar 13 2005, 11:54 PM)
hmmm,
I think I am a little closer to the solution; I had to copy the files in linux/c
this is what I tried with the UXE Complete v0.2.x -> these where copied on my xbox but nothing happend.
So I have red all the replies to you and came up with the xboxhdm installer from ldots. (same which did not worked due to the incorrect copie fo the files)
Now I have the following question:
*what to do with the files in SMINSTALLER and intird.gz? where they go?because the description in the readme.txt below doesnt seem to work.?????
(IN THIS FOLDER THERE IS ONE FILE AND ONE FOLDER (INITRD AND SMINSTALLER)

1. COPY THE INITRD FILE TO "LINUX>ISOLINUX" FOLDER. THERE IS A INITRD FILE ALREADY SO WINDOWS WILL ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO REWRITE, SAY "YES"

2. COPY THE "SMINSTALLER" FOLDER TO "LINUX" FOLDER, WHERE THERE IS ALSO OTHER FOLDERS LIEK C, E  ETC.

3. USE MAKE-ISO.WIN.BAT TO CREATE THE ISO))
*


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So, I am learning every day (haha)

Today I restored my c/ to its origin and started all over again
made an ISO with the files in SMINSTALLER and intird.gz
Started the thing with command : softmod
and choose option 1 at first
it gives this as result: cannot remove "/xbox/xboxdash.exe''
no such file or directory

Went over again and restored to its origin
choose option 2 with the 5 steps
took a long time,,,,, but?????

again gave the result at step 3 of 5 ==cannot remove "/xbox/xboxdash.exe''
no such file or directory
kept on going an finished all the 5 steps

Tried to fire up the XBOX and THIS WORKED
SO FINALY I HAD THE SOFTMOD WORKING VIA A HOTSWAP!!!!
happyhappy.
so today I will try and access the box via ftp and have the media center in there.

Any tips?
thx


Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: harry slinger on March 15, 2005, 03:16:00 PM
QUOTE(kabouter @ Mar 14 2005, 01:15 PM)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So, I am learning every day (haha)

Today I restored my c/ to its origin and started all over again
made an ISO with the files in SMINSTALLER and intird.gz
Started the thing with command : softmod
and choose option 1 at first
it gives this as result: cannot remove "/xbox/xboxdash.exe''
no such file or directory

Went over again and restored to its origin
choose option 2 with the 5 steps
took a long time,,,,, but?????

again gave the result at step 3 of 5 ==cannot remove "/xbox/xboxdash.exe''
no such file or directory
kept on going an finished all the 5 steps

Tried to fire up the XBOX and THIS WORKED
SO FINALY I HAD THE SOFTMOD WORKING VIA A HOTSWAP!!!!
happyhappy.
so today I will try and access the box via ftp and have the media center in there.

Any tips?
thx
*




I tried it today and it was quite simple: just copied the hole directory in the e/apps/ and could load it right away.
Something strage is still boughtering me... Thats the fact that I cannot access my C disk for any ajustments tot the system.
Anybody some tips for me how to restore this ?????????????????
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: harbingerofdoom on March 15, 2005, 11:44:00 PM
for those of you who are having a problem with the timing, here is the trick that worked for me & made this hot swap soooooooo much easier.

I did the hotswap blind (Xbox not hooked up to the TV)

power on computer & boot into bios. set it to exit witout saving, but dont confirm yet... it will just sit there waiting for you to hit 'Y'

power up xbox, as soon as that first flash of red hit on the LED, pull the ide cable & set the hd aside, then hit 'Y' on your computer to tell it to start rebooting. once it starts going through the POST (for those of you that dont know what that is...thats where it starts telling you how much ram you have ect...) as soon as you hit that stage, pop the IDE cable onto your xbox hdd & BAM, you have hot swapped it.

It literally took me about 10 tries the other way before I tried it this way.
for those of you who keep having the problem with it saying there is a drive but no partitions, your xbox drive was not detected. this process should help with that.

now the only problem is that I have to reburn the boot disk & try again because it cant read any of the information that I burned onto the disk grr.gif

lemme know if that process helps anyone.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: harry slinger on March 16, 2005, 05:05:00 AM
QUOTE(harry slinger @ Mar 15 2005, 10:15 PM)
I tried it today and it was quite simple: just copied the hole directory in the e/apps/ and could load it right away.
Something strage is still boughtering me... Thats the fact that I cannot access my C disk for any ajustments tot the system.
Anybody some tips for me how to restore this ?????????????????
*



Today I was confronted with an other strange thing: I could not play any games????
Tried to play it from original disk ie. splinter cell and from a dl version and copied to the harddisk. All of them hang up my Xbox?
Can you tell?
thx
harry
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: harbingerofdoom on March 16, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
i had originally posted this somewhere else, but in hindsight it might actually be more apropriate here.

I went to copy BWI-MA into the folder, but one of the files wont transfer, it keeps giving me an invalid arguement error 22 when that file goes to copy. I took a look at the file and when I am booted into xboxhdm the file name is different and contains a ? in it.
when I take that same disk to any one of 4 win boxes they report the correct file name & size.

I have reburned the ISO a few times and on different media (DVD-r DVD+RW CDR & CDRW) and on different computers & the same thing is happening from all of them.

Is there some info that someone can give me on this problem?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: harbingerofdoom on March 17, 2005, 01:08:00 AM
We can ignore the previous post that part is fixed.

I was getting error 12 once I turned the xbox back on after transfering the files.

now, without anything in the DVD drive, I can get in & see the installer save that I pushed to the hdd, but when I put a disk in, it goes to the xbox splash screen, gives me the white MS under the x and then I get an error that says "your xbox requires service, please call the customer care number..." with no error code numbers or anything else.

I am on day 3 of trying to get this done & im really starting to get stressed could someone please help me out here?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: harbingerofdoom on March 17, 2005, 02:25:00 AM
we can ignore that last one too...
the exploit that I had loaded was corrupted. deleted that & it came back up.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: _elysium on March 21, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
Hey,
Well i'm a total xbox mod noob, but i followed daddyj's nice litle tutorial and everything worked flawlessly..

I took pics of the entire process, so if anyone is interested I can post them here..

Thanks Daddyj for such a clear and helpful tutorial, it made my xbox-modding painless, free and easy! biggrin.gif

Let me know if you guys want to see photos of the soft-modding!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on March 21, 2005, 07:37:00 PM
QUOTE(_elysium @ Mar 21 2005, 09:25 PM)
Hey,
Well i'm a total xbox mod noob, but i followed daddyj's nice litle tutorial and everything worked flawlessly..

I took pics of the entire process, so if anyone is interested I can post them here..

Thanks Daddyj for such a clear and helpful tutorial, it made my xbox-modding painless, free and easy! biggrin.gif

Let me know if you guys want to see photos of the soft-modding!
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Thanks, sure post them.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: _elysium on March 21, 2005, 11:35:00 PM
Here are the pics of my recent soft-mod.
My xbox is a PAL, version 1.6 (Bought in New Zealand, the "halo" pack)


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before the mod smile.gif

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six screws removed, the lid is off

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Close-up of the standard xbox hdd

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I unscrewed the hdd tray and removed the hard drive so I could access it a bit easier..

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Here's a shot of the xbox logo, by now the IDE cable has been removed and my xbox hd is unlocked smile.gif

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here it is, all hooked up while i'm accessing the disk.

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shot of the xbrowser backup tool (also known as midnight commander) smile.gif

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finished, with evox running!


Basically I followed the tutorial step-by-step, using the uxe exploit..

I had a couple of tries at getting the unlocking right, but after the 3rd time I had it easily..
I found it works best if you watch the xbox boot up a couple of times, to get your timing rightr then unplug the cable JUST BEFORE the MS words appear..

anyway, any questions, feel free to ask smile.gif


Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Skandranon on April 01, 2005, 11:19:00 PM
I have hotswaped my xbox useing this method, although I read it first elswhere. This is a very well writen tutorial. Thank you.

I have a question I was hoping you could help with. I have a 160 gig harddrive and its only showing 130 gigs or so. I have been told I need to upgrade the bios to evov M8. I got the metoo m8 plus. Is this safe to use with a xbox moded in this manner? If it is do I have to put the orginal eeprom in the config file? It says you do then 4 line later it says in m8 you dont.

I have broken and fixed my xbox 3-4 times. Learning experances all of them!  blink.gif ANyway I dont feel like doing that again and I want to make 100% sure I wont before useing this program.

Thanks for any help!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Keo-Keo on April 01, 2005, 11:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Skandranon @ Apr 2 2005, 12:25 AM)
I have hotswaped my xbox useing this method, although I read it first elswhere. This is a very well writen tutorial. Thank you.

I have a question I was hoping you could help with. I have a 160 gig harddrive and its only showing 130 gigs or so. I have been told I need to upgrade the bios to evov M8. I got the metoo m8 plus. Is this safe to use with a xbox moded in this manner? If it is do I have to put the orginal eeprom in the config file? It says you do then 4 line later it says in m8 you dont.

I have broken and fixed my xbox 3-4 times. Learning experances all of them!  blink.gif ANyway I dont feel like doing that again and I want to make 100% sure I wont before useing this program.

Thanks for any help!
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just use NKpatcher 9+ kingroach made a xboxhdm package for it..
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Skandranon on April 01, 2005, 11:45:00 PM
There is no way to do this without taking the HD out? If I have to do that then I have to use a buddys desktop. Was hoping to avoid that because it sucks diging it out.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: triggernum5 on April 02, 2005, 07:37:00 AM
That one pic of the hdd sitting circuits down ontop of the metallic dvd drive scares me..  Doing this is a very bad idea..  I find its usually most convenient to lean the top side of the hdd against the metal EM shielding..
Killing your hdd before retrieving your eeprom.bin means chip time..
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: _elysium on April 03, 2005, 09:31:00 PM
QUOTE(triggernum5 @ Apr 3 2005, 02:43 AM)
That one pic of the hdd sitting circuits down ontop of the metallic dvd drive scares me..  Doing this is a very bad idea..  I find its usually most convenient to lean the top side of the hdd against the metal EM shielding..
Killing your hdd before retrieving your eeprom.bin means chip time..
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Naw, it was fine wink.gif

I agree though, if I was doing it again i'd be a little more careful about sitting the hdd on top of the dvd drive.. leaning it against the metal shielding is a good idea, but putting something under the drive (an anti-static bag or something) and leaving it sitting on the dvd drive would be better..
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Xamen on April 04, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
Hi there, great tutorial!

Just softmodded my first xbox using this tut and everything actualy went pretty well, i can do everything, like running all sorts of apps and emulators and playing Divx films... but yeah there is a pretty huge BUT, i have a lot of backupped games here and none of them is beeing reconized by the dvd-rom, about every game or other backked up media i try to run doesnt work, dvd-rom empty is a very common message.
I tested one original game, no problem, doesnt even take one sec to run an original disc, but coppied once... damn...
One backupped game did work for a few seconds, after that the "disc may be dirty or dammaged" message came up, but visualy there is nothing wrong with the discs.
i also tried to swap regions in the evox settings, that doesn't work either, it almost looks like the laser is dirty, but that doesnt fit every sympton either, aaaH!

anyone ?

Sebas
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Xamen on April 04, 2005, 12:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Xamen @ Apr 4 2005, 03:58 PM)
Hi there, great tutorial!

Just softmodded my first xbox using this tut and everything actualy went pretty well, i can do everything, like running all sorts of apps and emulators and playing Divx films... but yeah there is a pretty huge BUT, i have a lot of backupped games here and none of them is beeing reconized by the dvd-rom, about every game or other backked up media i try to run doesnt work, dvd-rom empty is a very common message.
I tested one original game, no problem, doesnt even take one sec to run an original disc, but coppied once... damn...
One backupped game did work for a few seconds, after that the "disc may be dirty or dammaged" message came up, but visualy there is nothing wrong with the discs.
i also tried to swap regions in the evox settings, that doesn't work either, it almost looks like the laser is dirty, but that doesnt fit every sympton either, aaaH!

anyone ?

Sebas
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to bad this forum hasn't got a delete function, anyway.. i hooked up a new dvd-burner to my XBOX and now everything works fine, so laser must be indeed dirty or something, so now you all know there is nothing wrong with this tut!

This post has been edited by Xamen: Apr 4 2005, 07:25 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: CrimsonSapien on April 06, 2005, 03:27:00 AM
beerchug.gif

Great tutorial DaddyJ, between your very easy to follow instructions and Ldots great liveCD, I was able to hotswap my HD and softmod it in a little over a half hour (my 1st and only n00b mistake during the process was to forget to put the exploit into the C directory of the ISO, thank goodness for external drives and laptops!  biggrin.gif ) My next step is to load applications.

Once again thank you for this clear and concise guide.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Xamen on April 06, 2005, 06:59:00 PM
Yep, great thanks here too!!!
it worked out without a glitch actualy, i made the kid next door very happy with his totaly new xbox, i got it running loads of stuff now, emulators, XBMC and all that kind of stuff.. and that dvd-rom thing where it wouldn't read any burned games, that turned out to be that pot resistor trick wich also worked for me so 200% succes story over here!

THANKS

Sebas
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: nazreal on April 08, 2005, 03:23:00 AM
beerchug.gif    Thanks for the tutorial.. I just installed on a v1.6 box by your write up no probs at all.. Damn near noob proof!! Took all of about a half hour.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: shak3zula on April 11, 2005, 10:04:00 AM
Thank you very much for this tutorial. I looked at the TeamO2 tutorial, but it was geared towards using UDE/UDE2, and seemed rather outdated. This one was square on.

I used xboxhdm 1.9 and UXE Complete from the "usual sources" burned at 4x. I tried hotswapping on an old Dell Optiplex GX1 for the simple sake of not having to crack open my P4, it DID NOT WORK. I think it was a problem with the BIOS on the Dell, as xboxhdm could see the drive, but not the xbox partition. I tried about 2 dozen times too, with and with out the detection, etc.

The PC (MSI Board P4) worked the first time, and I did it blind. I booted the xbox up with out a disc, and let it get to the dashboard, took about 5 min before I swapped the cable, and the cable was off for about a minute and a half. Backing up the original xbox C took about 5 minutes, and installing evoX from the UXE/xboxhdm cd took about 2 more.

My XboX is a 1.6b version, manufactured 10/04. I don't care about XboX Live, I just wanted to play burned games. It works like a charm!

Thanks again!

This post has been edited by shak3zula: Apr 11 2005, 05:05 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: agass4u on April 12, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
I tried my luck at hotswapping yesterday and unfortunately it did not go so well.  Basically after several attempts my hard drive will not spin at all anymore and I was unable to get my hard drive key before this happened.  Does anyone know what I can do to set up a new hard drive for my X-Box?  I realize that I will probably have to install a mod chip to fix this, but I am not exactly sure how I should go about doing this.  Does anyone have any idea were I can start, because as of right now I have $150 paper weight that blinks pretty red and green colors.  If anyone has any suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: a_DraGoN_Jai on May 05, 2005, 08:38:00 PM
hello. followed your tutorial and trying to softmod my xbox.  everything work successfully until the point where i try to boot into evox for the 1st time(to get the eeprom file)  I cant boot into evox.

i am sure the files on the cd are correct, which i need xboxhdm and the uxxe complete.
My xbox is a pal version crystal xbox.

can any1 tell me where i have gone wrong?
ANy help will be great.! thankyou everyone.

cheers.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: triggernum5 on May 05, 2005, 10:16:00 PM
Does your xbox yeild an error#, or hang at the X-Logo , or boot to msdash still?  
Actually, answer the question in a different thread..  Your problem has nothing to do with hotswapping..
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: a_DraGoN_Jai on May 06, 2005, 09:24:00 AM
It just hanged at the xlogo. when the white MS logo comes on at the bottom...  I have tried hotswapping 3 times but every time it hangs at the xlogo and won't let me boot into evox.

Can anyone tell me where to look for resolution to my problems pls. or what is wrong.  thanks.

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on May 06, 2005, 10:21:00 AM
QUOTE(a_DraGoN_Jai @ May 6 2005, 10:23 AM)
It just hanged at the xlogo. when the white MS logo comes on at the bottom...  I have tried hotswapping 3 times but every time it hangs at the xlogo and won't let me boot into evox.

Can anyone tell me where to look for resolution to my problems pls. or what is wrong.  thanks.
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Sounds like your fonts are pointing to a missing xbe file.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: triggernum5 on May 06, 2005, 01:55:00 PM
Or perhaps you need to use a different font set..  Another possibility is you have made changes to your setup that mess up the memory structure..  Is your language set to english without any parental controls set etc?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: jonels on May 06, 2005, 02:15:00 PM
sorry to ask the obvious... did you run the 2 uxe-complete batch files before making you cd ?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: a_DraGoN_Jai on May 06, 2005, 03:27:00 PM
well my xbox's setting was on default, which is engilsh language and don't think any parental setting is on, but not too sure, i can't check either because i can't log into my msdash or evox dash.

I am jus thinking maybe the xbox can't find the evox or the correct exploit.  because when i boot up the xbox, i hear the hd clicked as normal on the boot screen, then there is no activity on the hd after that point...

I then hotswapped it again and went into xbrowser, to see if the necessary files are in c drive.. everything is still there.. which is the support  folder and the uxe-c-replace folder..(which is from uxe complete v0.21)...

i really hope this method will softmod my xbox, as this is my 1st project based on game console, and i find it very interesting....  as i am still a rookie in this subject so please all  you experts out there can help me figure this out... i am sure it is jus a little tweak i need to get this thing working..   Many people has successed softmodding using this method and i want to be 1 of them!!!!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: jonels on May 06, 2005, 03:34:00 PM
you need the contents of "uxe-c-replace" folder on the xbox c:\ drive.. also you must run the 2 batch files in the support folder to complete the "uxe-c-replace " folder before putting it on your xboxhdm cd... read the readme.txt file that comes with uxe-complete

if in doubt run "71-fonts-install.bat" and "nkpatcher-06-install.bat" from the support folder .. as i said ... read the readme

i'm sorry if you have already done this and i'm misunderstanding your last post

This post has been edited by jonels: May 6 2005, 10:37 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: a_DraGoN_Jai on May 06, 2005, 03:37:00 PM
i didn't run any batch files before making the iso.  all i did is UNzipped xboxhdm and uxe complete.  then put "support file folder" and "uxe-c replaced folder" into c drive in xboxhdm folder.   THen i click on makeISO.bat to marke the xboxhdm ISO then created in nero.

what 2 uxe complete batch files do i need to run? also how to and when to pls? do i run it in windows by double clinking those two batch files before making the ISO

thanks JOnels.

This post has been edited by a_DraGoN_Jai: May 6 2005, 10:50 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: jonels on May 06, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
you''ll get it ..

1) unzip uxe complete v0.21
2) open the uxe complete v0.21 folder
3) open the supportfiles folder
4) run the 2 batch files i mentioned above
5) now get the contents of uxe-c-replace folder onto your xbox c:drive using the same method you used before with hotswap/xbrowser


the xbox c:\ should look something like this when your done

c:\xboxdash.xbe
c:\fonts\dashboard (folder) and its contents
c:\fonts\nk (folder) and its contents
c:\fonts\bert-generic.xtf
c:\fonts\ernie.xtf

This post has been edited by jonels: May 6 2005, 10:55 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: a_DraGoN_Jai on May 06, 2005, 04:04:00 PM
i guess thats where i have gone wromg... i didn't make any of these files.. now making them.... ( i think this should be included in this tutorial !! lol)  well kinda my fault for not reading the readme at the 1st place...

well let you kno whether it works or not..

Many thanks!!!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: a_DraGoN_Jai on May 06, 2005, 04:59:00 PM
hey.. i finally got into evox after running that 2 batch files.. THANKYOU SO MUCH u guys especially your help JONELS!!! XBOXSCENE RULES!!!!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Happy_hopper on May 09, 2005, 11:33:00 PM


What does running those batch files do?



I am having trouble making the boot disk.  What files do I need from UXE complete v.0.2.2?  The place on e folder is empty.

do you just put the uxe-c-replace folder and the place on e folder in your /linux/c folder?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Happy_hopper on May 11, 2005, 02:58:00 PM


I meant to ask what exactly goes in the c folder and e folder?


Is C suppose to have a fonts folder and a file called XBOXDASH.XBE?

Ane E has just a ROOT folder?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: intheb0x on May 15, 2005, 06:28:00 AM
hey all,
im so close i got everything set, but im following the tut and when i get to to select option #2 boot text console, it unloads fatximage and intrid.gz then it says uncompressing linux then it says ok booting to kernal something and the comptuer restarts? is that the program telling me that i didnt hotswap at the right time? or is there something else wrong? please let me know im right in the middle of this and its kind of irritating that i got this far and i got this error,
Thanks alot everyone!


i went to bios and theres no option to turn the hdd off and if i do then it doesnt detect cd rom drive.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on May 15, 2005, 12:06:00 PM
QUOTE(intheb0x @ May 15 2005, 07:27 AM)
hey all,
im so close i got everything set, but im following the tut and when i get to to select option #2 boot text console, it unloads fatximage and intrid.gz then it says uncompressing linux then it says ok booting to kernal something and the comptuer restarts? is that the program telling me that i didnt hotswap at the right time? or is there something else wrong? please let me know im right in the middle of this and its kind of irritating that i got this far and i got this error,
Thanks alot everyone!
i went to bios and theres no option to turn the hdd off and if i do then it doesnt detect cd rom drive.
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This is usually a memory conflict, either try creating a failsafe xboxhdm (Search forums), or use a different pc.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Sines on May 23, 2005, 06:51:00 PM
This is the best tute I could find for softmodding on xbs.  Thanks for all your time and writing!

One thing that did confuse me though...

I used the uxe-complete-v0.2.2 which, as well as the c: exploit files seems to have the new dashboard files in a 'ROOT' directory on the E:\ drive.  This tutorial however, only said about making modifications to the C:\ drive... the first time I did it, the xbox boot failed.  The second time I used xbrowser to copy the e:\root folder to the xbox e:\ then all worked well.  As above, I also didn't run the .bat files until I read through the forum.  

Maybe these couple of points could be added to the tute? (although maybe you were trying to stay away from tying it to a specific exploit, I don't know).  I guess they are commonsense, but for a newb like me, it was an easy oversight when concentrating on everything else..

Cheers.  beerchug.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on May 23, 2005, 07:52:00 PM
QUOTE(Sines)

I used the uxe-complete-v0.2.2 which, as well as the c: exploit files seems to have the new dashboard files in a 'ROOT' directory on the E:\ drive.  This tutorial however, only said about making modifications to the C:\ drive... the first time I did it, the xbox boot failed.  The second time I used xbrowser to copy the e:\root folder to the xbox e:\ then all worked well.  As above, I also didn't run the .bat files until I read through the forum. 

Maybe these couple of points could be added to the tute? (although maybe you were trying to stay away from tying it to a specific exploit, I don't know).  I guess they are commonsense, but for a newb like me, it was an easy oversight when concentrating on everything else..



Took this into consideration, and updated the root post, at the time fo writing, uxe-complete was a C only mod, but as I have learned from recent posts, it now also relies on the E.

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: kingpin2051 on June 02, 2005, 11:37:00 AM

First, I just want to say that this tut is great! Ive been searching for a while for a good tutorial that I felt confident with and this one is the only one that i felt a noob like myself could do! Thanks!

But I have a couple questions:

QUOTE
Get the EEPROM

FTP in and grab this folder. In it, is the EEPROM.BIN.


1. the eeprom.bin should be in the backup that I did when I was able to boot to the newly installed menu, and not in some folder called "eeprom", correct?

QUOTE
Re-create the CD

Now you can re-create the XboxHDM with the C folder & EEPROM. This will become your restore cd, or you can use it to upgrade your hd.


2. It almost sounds like I need to do something with the C folder.
If yes, what should I do?

3. I just copy the backed up eeprom.bin to the eeprom folder thats in the linux folder, correct?

Thanks for all the help!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on June 02, 2005, 01:51:00 PM
QUOTE(kingpin2051)
But I have a couple questions:
1. the eeprom.bin should be in the backup that I did when I was able to boot to the newly installed menu, and not in some folder called "eeprom", correct?


its in a folder backup, the file you need is eeprom.bin

QUOTE(kingpin2051)
2. It almost sounds like I need to do something with the C folder.
If yes, what should I do?


Nothing, C should be already setup, the main part is adding the eeprom.bin to the cd.

QUOTE(kingpin2051)
3. I just copy the backed up eeprom.bin to the eeprom folder thats in the linux folder, correct?

yep!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: kingpin2051 on June 02, 2005, 01:58:00 PM
Ok Great! Thanks for the prompt reply!
I feel better knowing that Im on the right track!
Thanks for the awesome tutorial!!!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on June 02, 2005, 03:40:00 PM
Updated main post with more information, such as post referals, and a UXE-complete setup guide. Hope it clears a few mis-conceptions up.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: kingpin2051 on June 02, 2005, 04:19:00 PM
I got to the part where I am suppose to boot to option 4.
And when I type in ATAPWD, it brings up the gui then drops
to the "A:>" prompt. And it says the following error:

"Invalid Opcode ......" followed by a several sets of numbers and letters.

Also, on the gui, the primary drive is flashing.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: kingpin2051 on June 02, 2005, 05:14:00 PM
I also want to add that I connected the hd directly to my computer and then booted to the cd. I didnt hotswap it like earlier. Since I was able to do option 3 and lock/unlock the drive this way, I assume that its fine?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on June 03, 2005, 05:14:00 AM
QUOTE(kingpin2051 @ Jun 2 2005, 07:23 PM)
I got to the part where I am suppose to boot to option 4.
And when I type in ATAPWD, it brings up the gui then drops
to the "A:>" prompt. And it says the following error:

"Invalid Opcode ......" followed by a several sets of numbers and letters.

Also, on the gui, the primary drive is flashing.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
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Sounds as if the cd has been partially corrupted, try burning the xboxhdm cd slower or on different media. But if I take it correctly, then you've already lockhd -a , so the master password is set.


QUOTE(kingpin2051)
I also want to add that I connected the hd directly to my computer and then booted to the cd. I didnt hotswap it like earlier. Since I was able to do option 3 and lock/unlock the drive this way, I assume that its fine?

You can use the PC power, it will not harm the Xboxhd, and is actully better during hotswapping to use the PC's power, and yes once the EEPROM is obtained, hotswapping is no longer needed.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: kingpin2051 on June 03, 2005, 11:43:00 PM
QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Jun 3 2005, 04:18 AM)
Sounds as if the cd has been partially corrupted, try burning the xboxhdm cd slower or on different media. But if I take it correctly, then you've already lockhd -a , so the master password is set.
QUOTE(kingpin2051)
I also want to add that I connected the hd directly to my computer and then booted to the cd. I didnt hotswap it like earlier. Since I was able to do option 3 and lock/unlock the drive this way, I assume that its fine?

You can use the PC power, it will not harm the Xboxhd, and is actully better during hotswapping to use the PC's power, and yes once the EEPROM is obtained, hotswapping is no longer needed.
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Thanks Man!!!
You are the best!

Yeah, i did the lockhd -a.
I'll try using the pc power on hotswap next time...it definitely sounds better.

I modded my stock hd, then last night using the cd w/ eeprom on it, i upgraded it to a 120g that I had lying around!

Everyone at the LAN center I own was happy to see it modded.

So far I have dvd2xbox and xbmc on it, any suggestions
of other apps I should install? There are so many! LOL

Now I need to start loading it up for the next LAN party we're throwing.

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Valmort on June 07, 2005, 11:48:00 PM
I need serious help. I can't get my compter to notice my xbox c drive. I need to fix my xbox and can do it if I can get the computer to recognize the drive. I've done everything the tut says, but can't get it to reconize the drive. My xbox does have error 16

it would be nice to live chat with someone who could help. Aim me at odorf07

This post has been edited by Valmort: Jun 8 2005, 06:50 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on June 08, 2005, 04:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Valmort @ Jun 8 2005, 02:52 AM)
I need serious help. I can't get my compter to notice my xbox c drive. I need to fix my xbox and can do it if I can get the computer to recognize the drive. I've done everything the tut says, but can't get it to reconize the drive. My xbox does have error 16

it would be nice to live chat with someone who could help. Aim me at odorf07
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whut tools are you using, have you tried xboxhdm, can it see the E partition?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: rhythmace1 on June 13, 2005, 06:43:00 AM
thanks for the tut, it's the best Hotswap tut I found and it's done the job for me, one perfectly-modded Xbox via Hotswapping/XboxHDM/UXE-complete, and without asking a single question!  cool.gif

The only thing missing (apologies if I'm wrong here, you may already have updated, but I'm sure I read it in Grospolina's tut) is a tip to try waiting until the MS dash is fully loaded before swapping. I tried many times to do it after the clicking, etc, trying to perfect the timing, but I only got it to work when I let the dash fully load first.

thanks again!  beerchug.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on June 13, 2005, 10:22:00 AM
QUOTE(rhythmace1 @ Jun 13 2005, 09:54 AM)
thanks for the tut, it's the best Hotswap tut I found and it's done the job for me, one perfectly-modded Xbox via Hotswapping/XboxHDM/UXE-complete, and without asking a single question!  cool.gif

The only thing missing (apologies if I'm wrong here, you may already have updated, but I'm sure I read it in Grospolina's tut) is a tip to try waiting until the MS dash is fully loaded before swapping. I tried many times to do it after the clicking, etc, trying to perfect the timing, but I only got it to work when I let the dash fully load first.

thanks again!  beerchug.gif
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Most people who hotswap, no longer have access to the m$ dash,  this tutorial takes that into considration.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Cio on June 13, 2005, 04:03:00 PM
Respect, i read ur tut just know, i really needed to know WHAT had helped all those ppl save or free their boxes. (i knew how, i knew it was good, but this is great!)

However:
"The whole purpose of setting the master password, is to use it right? So you went into option 3 on the XboxHDM cd, and typed hdunlock -a, and then rebooted into option 2 and the drive was still locked?
Yep, unlocking the drive, only unlocks it for that session, a loss of power, or reboot, will cause the drive to relock."

AFAIK options 3 (linux lock/unlock tools) both UNLOCKS and DISABLES the lock. Not just unlock... Or did i miss something? Still the lock/unlock part needs to be done IMHO, if just for setting the master password in case you lock using another app that doesn't set a master password or in case the mobo and eeprom backup are both "gone".
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Jordan_Hounsell on June 19, 2005, 08:26:00 AM
Is it safe to hotswap during a game? I don't mean safe as in nothing could hapen but is it just as safe as the msdash hotswap?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on June 19, 2005, 10:14:00 AM
Yes, but try to avoid doing it during a loading screen, or big video playing, as these things activitly access the hd, and may cause corruption if you removed the ide ribon at this time.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: darkmsger on June 19, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
Hi, this is a extemely helpful tutorial. I successfully soft-moded my XBOX following the procedure DaddyJ provided, and it works like a charm.

But like http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=332179&view=findpost&p=2633523, I failed at my first attempt because I didn't use the patches and copy the stuff to E:/ROOT/. Maybe it should be added to the first page.

I do have a question though. I have troubles gettin' to the "Using the Master Password" part. The ATAPWD thing doesn't detect my XBOX drive, but the linux got my drive every time I did the hotswap. I tried several times, it just doesn't work. sad.gif What is the disadvantage not doing this step? I have my rom file, the HD key, and I've set my Master Password to XBOXSCENE. Will there be programs that must run on disabled HD or it just helps me to avoid hot-swappin' in the future (I assume once the HD is disabled, I can boot xboxhdm without hot-swappin') ? I don't think I'll need to run xboxhdm again unless I upgrade to a bigger hard drive.

Again, thanks DaddyJ and everyone who has contributed to this thread. laugh.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: utterchaos on July 05, 2005, 02:31:00 AM
thanks works a treat done mine and my brothers boxes using this tut, thanks you for your work
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: be9ine on July 05, 2005, 11:47:00 PM
Wow! Great tut! I read just about every page in this topic and when I was done I hot swapped into my error 21 xbox and fixed it. I already gave the details of what I did in the newbie chat forum, so I just wanted to say thanks for your effort! It really helped me alot.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Wicked-Sick on July 21, 2005, 04:20:00 PM
hrmmm... how to word this so it doesnt affend anyone. DaddyJ couple of questions and comments on the tut, I would personaly like to speak to you on some form of IM service or maybe a voice program like TeamSpeak about making something a bit more straight forward. Kinda hard to put in words here without confusing the audience. Ive spoken to a few other members and they said they might be doing something along the same lines. Contact me here ? I didnt want this to be a PM  because if "WE" can work this out im positive it will help this community.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on July 21, 2005, 04:51:00 PM
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Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Wicked-Sick on July 25, 2005, 07:29:00 PM
I will have to say this, this is one hella great tut. IF you follow the instructions 100% its flawless.. Great work DJ
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: w00t_mc on July 28, 2005, 01:21:00 AM
have been reading xbox-scene for like two weeks now , learned alot of stuff.
In the beginning i was totally lost feeling really newbb but didn't give up and then i came across this tutorial... it just ROCKS!  smile.gif

my xbox is modded now , hotswapped 2 times , worked fine both times.

you guys rock! tnxzz!!
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Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on July 29, 2005, 08:55:00 PM
Updated with alternative setup methods depending on HD.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: dajuice on August 06, 2005, 09:53:00 AM
I have a 1.0 xbox that has been a doorstop for 3 years now and the only way to save it is to hotswap. Will the hotswap work if no M$ logo appears at the bottom of the screen and no error code given?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on August 06, 2005, 10:28:00 AM
It should if you force an error 12,

no error numbers are common on v1.0
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: dajuice on August 06, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
Ok, so an error 12 is something about kernel - DVD parameters (PIO/DMA). To force it, we intentionally pull the ide ribbon from the DVD drive? If that's the case, then there might be hope for my xbox. Got my fingers crossed and thanks for the help. BTW, I've read many threads about hotswapping and this was the one that was really well-written and clear. If all goes well, I plan to flash the tsop because all my LPC points are destroyed. Thanks again.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Venom7 on August 07, 2005, 01:51:00 PM
I have read a lot of hotswap tuts over the past few days, this seems to be the most updated and straight forward of all of them. I have just a few questions before I attempt this.

QUOTE
Install Exploit 1 (Already Partitioned HD)
We are only concerned with Option 2 {Rebuild C Partition} ***(WARNING, this will delete everything on the C partition, Make sure you backup or C)***

This formats the C, and then copies the contents of CDROM\C into PriMas\C, (when prompted type yes )and then drop you back to the menu
Exit the menu, and fire up xbrowser, on the left side point to CDROM\E\ROOT in the right side point to PriMas\E, then F5 to copy the ROOT folder.
F10 to exit. (proceed to Resume section.)

Install Exploit 2 (Un-Partition HD *Needs EEPROM *Requires Locking)
All you need to run is Option 1 and it will wipe the complete drive, partition & format the drive, and then copy the CDROM\C & CDROM\E to PriMas\C & PriMas\E (when prompted type yes ). Then drop to the menu again.


1) If I have a stock xbox hd, and nothing is wrong with it, does that mean I have an "Already partitioned HD" as the "Install Exploit 1" mentions? Or does this mean I have an "Un-Partition HD *Needs EEPROM *Requires Locking" as the "Install Exploit 2" states.



2) Since my HD is fine, and I can access the M$ Dash, can I swap the cables when the xbox is sitting at the M$ Dash?



3) Since the HD is being reformatted, willl I still be able to access all the normal things that I would have been able to access without a mod by doing a coldboot?

Thanks a lot.  jester.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on August 07, 2005, 03:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Venom7)
1) If I have a stock xbox hd, and nothing is wrong with it, does that mean I have an "Already partitioned HD" as the "Install Exploit 1" mentions? Or does this mean I have an "Un-Partition HD *Needs EEPROM *Requires Locking" as the "Install Exploit 2" states.

Your hd is already partitioned

QUOTE(Venom7)
2) Since my HD is fine, and I can access the M$ Dash, can I swap the cables when the xbox is sitting at the M$ Dash?

Should work

QUOTE(Venom7)
3) Since the HD is being reformatted, willl I still be able to access all the normal things that I would have been able to access without a mod by doing a coldboot?

The only thing that will change is the msdash setup, depending on your mod, this should be setup via shadowC in nkpatcher.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Venom7 on August 07, 2005, 05:07:00 PM
Alright thanks a lot bro, once I get my xbox put back together, I'm gonna give it a go.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Venom7 on August 10, 2005, 03:59:00 AM
Okay, well I tried it. It didn't work. I followed everything exactly. I wated til the pc was at the xboxhdm main screen and my xbox was at the M$ dash. I quickly switched them and went to option 2. i then typed xbrowser and it displayed this message:

CODE


Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hda
Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hdb
Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hdc

No disk drive found on /dev/hda
We will now search /dev/hda  for an xbox partition table
No xbox partition table found on /dev/hda


Can someone help me out? Thanks a lot.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on August 10, 2005, 05:36:00 AM
QUOTE(Venom7 @ Aug 10 2005, 05:34 AM)
Okay, well I tried it. It didn't work. I followed everything exactly. I wated til the pc was at the xboxhdm main screen and my xbox was at the M$ dash. I quickly switched them and went to option 2. i then typed xbrowser and it displayed this message:

CODE


Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hda
Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hdb
Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hdc

No disk drive found on /dev/hda
We will now search /dev/hda  for an xbox partition table
No xbox partition table found on /dev/hda


Can someone help me out? Thanks a lot.
*



Looks as if the hd is not being palced on primary master, or is not unlocked.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: liteonwords on August 10, 2005, 12:02:00 PM
Thanks so much dude for the tutorial, it saved my xbox and my ass..
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Venom7 on August 10, 2005, 03:11:00 PM
Well, I put it on the same ide slot that my pc hdd was on, which is the last one on the cable. I thought the hd was unlocked at the M$ dash? I also tried swapping right before the white M$ logo came up, and also right after it came up. Please help.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on August 10, 2005, 06:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Venom7 @ Aug 10 2005, 04:46 PM)
Well, I put it on the same ide slot that my pc hdd was on, which is the last one on the cable. I thought the hd was unlocked at the M$ dash? I also tried swapping right before the white M$ logo came up, and also right after it came up. Please help.
*



It should be unlocked, try typing xboxhd first, also to double check its unlocked, swap into option 4, and run atapwd , look on your drive, at the the end, the L should have a - behind it. even if its unlocked, disconnect the ide before rebooting, or it will relock when you boot into option 2.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Venom7 on August 10, 2005, 08:06:00 PM
Well, I did what you said, I tried xboxhd, it couldn't detect my drive. Then I swapped to option 4 and ran atapwd, my 2 cdrom drives showed up on my slaves, but it didnt detect anything on my masters. I ran the detection again and still the same thing. Thanks for your help, daddyj, i appreciate it.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on August 10, 2005, 08:17:00 PM
both your cdorms are slaves, and you have no masters?

wow,  unhook the cdrom that is sharing the chain with the xbox hd.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Venom7 on August 10, 2005, 10:05:00 PM
sorry, i got mixed up with the secondarys and slaves. my cdroms are on the secondarys. still nothing detected on my primarys. here is what i am doing:

1.hook pc power to xbox.
2.loosen xbox ide cable.
3.disconnect ide and power from pc hd.
4.boot pc.
5.boot xbox.
6.switch cables when pc is at the xboxhdm main screen and xbox is at dash.
7.go to option 2, and type xbrowser.

This is where i get the errror. thanks. smile.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: scooby_dooby on August 11, 2005, 09:06:00 AM
******   PLEASE ADD THIS TO YOUR TUTORIAL *******

k, this sounds a little screwed but it really works.

I've softmodded about 7 or 8 xboxes, the last one I did was a v. 1.6 and for some reason the HD would not spin down, and hotswapping just would not work.

I found this method, thx to kinqroach, which will prepare your xbox for hotswap on a version 1.5 or 1.6 console.

People with a 1.5 or 1.6 who are having problems hotswapping:

- put an audio cd in the xbox
- copy one track to the hd
- play the track from the HD, let play for a few seconds
- pause the song
- you HDD is now ready for hotswap!


- BTW: the button sequence for starting a soundtrack without seeing it on-screen is: A + DOWN + A + A + A(play)..wait...A(pause)

This really needs to  be added to the tutorials. i tried regular hotswap 20+ times and it would not detect in xboxhdm, tried this CD method and it worked perfect 1st shot.

p.s. Venom7, your HDD is not unlocked, let me guess you have a newer xbox? try the steps above, they WILL work.

This post has been edited by scooby_dooby: Aug 11 2005, 04:09 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on August 11, 2005, 10:10:00 AM
*Added
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Venom7 on August 11, 2005, 08:25:00 PM
QUOTE
try the steps above, they WILL work.


alright, well that didn't work. thanks for your input though mate. smile.gif

so now what could be wrong? could the problem be with my pc?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: scooby_dooby on August 12, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
could be damaged cables,

try using the cables from your CD-rom drives.

probably not a problem with your PC, it sounds like your HD just isn't unlocking.

Are you sure you took the CD out before attempting to play the music file? It must be playing off the HDD.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Venom7 on August 12, 2005, 05:03:00 PM
if it were damaged cables, why would it be able to detect my pc hdd?

no i didnt take the cd out. i saved a track and then went to the directory where i saved it and played it from there, not off the disc. but i will try taking the disc out and doing it again, since that seems to be my only option. thanks for your help bro.  jester.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: scooby_dooby on August 12, 2005, 07:30:00 PM
i've had cables that detected my HDD on PC but not xbox, they were on their way out, at htis point it can't hurt to try.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Venom7 on August 15, 2005, 04:30:00 PM
ok. i tried what you said, i switched the cables and tried it without the cd. still nothing sad.gif

why does my xbox hate me?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: gonz1969 on August 15, 2005, 04:58:00 PM
Venom is the IDE cable on your PC hooked up to anything else ?

1.disconnect it from the HD and anything it should only be connected mobo
2. first boot PC and hit PAUSE/BREAK button to pause the start up
3. place xboxhd cd in cd drive but do not hit any key on keyboard until after you have started your X an connected the PC ide cable .


hope this helps
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Venom7 on August 15, 2005, 06:36:00 PM
thanks for your advice, but sadly, i have already tried that method. and the ide is only connected to the mobo. sad.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on August 16, 2005, 01:41:00 PM
"Ok boot the PC before the Xbox or at the same time, the xbox takes around 8 seconds to reach the part where the White M$ logo appears at the bottom of the screen, at this point the HD will click a few times, At this exact point, swap the XBOX IDE cable, with the PC IDE cable."

And this guy recommends Error 12?

I have Error 12 and no White M$ logo appears, I have tried pulling the hdd's ide cable when the red LED blinks but it hasn't worked for me, how precise do I have to be?

Also is it me or does this xboxhdm choose option 1 on its own after a short time, making plugging the hdd in at the main menu difficult?

I only have one IDE cable, so I put my CD drive on Slave, is this likely to be a real problem?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on August 16, 2005, 03:45:00 PM
error 12 wont have white m$ text


xboxhdm does auto boot option 1 after 300 seconds,  read my other posts in this thread to find out howto change that time.


Precision is required, but can vary,  try and listen for the hd to click, and then swap.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Venom7 on August 16, 2005, 08:33:00 PM
do you have any advice for me all wise daddyj?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on August 17, 2005, 05:01:00 AM
I've hotswapped all versions of xbox, without problems.

Timing is the most important key.

Burn the xboxhdm cd at the slowest burn speed possible, as this could be your problem as well.


At the point of hearing the hd click, and before the xbox led goes red, yank the xbox ide ribbon from the xbox hd.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on August 17, 2005, 05:27:00 AM
Sounds good, I'll try that.

Is using my PC's optical drive as primary slave likely to cause problems?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Unlimited on August 26, 2005, 10:25:00 AM
if i do this can i just skip the exploit installing part so my xbox would be just like it was when i first got it
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: borzwazie on August 30, 2005, 07:15:00 PM
see, now why isn't this tutorial up on the tutorials page, and why aren't all the hdd_driver tutorials gone? why? cause I hadn't tried to mod my box yet, that's why.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on September 07, 2005, 08:14:00 AM
Ok, I pulled the XBOX IDE cable out when I heard the clicking, then plugged it into my PC's Primary Master IDE slot (on the Linux menu).

I pressed 1 for VGA mode, and I got the following error (I quote from screen)

"ISO Linux error 80, AX = 4218, drive 9F

Boot failed: press any key to continue"

???
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on September 07, 2005, 08:37:00 AM
If I press Enter then, it reboots.

I've now got this twice.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Unlimited on September 07, 2005, 02:17:00 PM
My M$ logo does not even show up? it just boots up than goes to the error page? when should i hotswap?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on September 07, 2005, 03:25:00 PM
Update : It seems my PC's mobo has some fascinating Master/Slave autodetection system that nicely ruins any chance of this working on it. I'll have to use another computer.

Unlimited,

"Ok boot the PC before the Xbox or at the same time, the xbox takes around 8 seconds to reach the part where the White M$ logo appears at the bottom of the screen, at this point the HD will click a few times, At this exact point, swap the XBOX IDE cable, with the PC IDE cable"

DaddyJ recommended to me that after I hear the hdd click, immediately pull the plug. On the first page it also said that doing it as the red LED lights up on the XBOX you can pull it then.

Try all three, I guess, and don't worry about frying your hdd from 3 attempts, there's someone on this site who tried ~30 times.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: xlr8d-xbox on September 18, 2005, 10:42:00 PM
@daddyj,

 I followed your tutorial very closely, finally got access to xbrowser and xboxhd, followed the instructions to backup C to E, no problem, then did install exploit 1, seemed to work fine, but when i closed and then tried to boot the xbox, it went to the death screen. i've tried several times to go back and figure out what files I need to have on the xbox hard drive, but i'm lost. :-( what does the xbox harddrive need to have in C? in E? i've searched everywhere in this thread and a few like it. I'm pretty sure that i copied the right files from uxe-complete v0.2.2 to the linux folder... any ideas?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Cio on September 19, 2005, 12:53:00 AM
The UXE complete files go in the linux\C\ and linux\E\ folders (they stand for the partitions).
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: xlr8d-xbox on September 19, 2005, 02:58:00 PM
ok, so i'm copying root to E and then the fonts folder and the dash to C right? i've tried copying some of the different fonts(there was some .bat's to click in the uxe folder, but they didn't seem to do anything when i clicked them so i just manually copied them over, trying different sets) into the C\fonts folder, but everytime i reburn the iso and load up xbrowser and copy them over, i get screen of death when i start up the xbox? thanks for your help Cio!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Cio on September 19, 2005, 03:49:00 PM
Please read the readme for UXE complete.

C contains: xboxdash.xbe, fonts dir

That should boot a simple evox dash. If it doesn't and they changed it, you should put the other folder that there on E. Again, check the readme.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: xlr8d-xbox on September 19, 2005, 03:51:00 PM
i went by the readme word for word :-( arrgggg maybe i should try slayers? or go get a game and do a gavesave exploit? i feel like im so close grr.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Cio on September 20, 2005, 01:14:00 AM
slayers cant mod. wont even run.

Ok, maybe its me but try this:

Unzip the archive (fresh unpack, not what you have now)
go to support files dir, run nkpatcher-06-install.bat
go to support files dir, run 71-fonts-install.bat

Open another screen with the xboxhdm\linux\ folder
Empty C and E folders.
copy the CONTENTS of uxe-c-replace to C
copy the CONTENTS of place-on-e to E

Now when using xboxhdm, rebuild ur C drive (option 1-1 i think), then type "xbrowser" in the command promt to get a filemanager, use tab and the F* keys to navigate, copy the "root" folder to E.

If you have a seagate hd you should also install F.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: xlr8d-xbox on September 20, 2005, 07:19:00 AM
I'll try that, thanks for your noob-tastic patience  biggrin.gif  beerchug.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: xlr8d-xbox on September 20, 2005, 04:49:00 PM
well cio, your advice worked like a charm.. i was able to get evox up, ftp in, get my eeprom.bin, and then reburn my linux cd. did boot option 3, got to the prompt, and then  typed in unlockhd -a to unlock, and then i got some sort of error thing, but it let me continue on to type lockhd -a.. now, when i started up the xbox, the led started blinking before it even started searching for the dash, then it goes straight from the x screen to the error screen. did it not lock it back right? did I fry my hard drive? i was so close! :-(
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on September 20, 2005, 06:48:00 PM
QUOTE(xlr8d-xbox @ Sep 20 2005, 07:00 PM)
well cio, your advice worked like a charm.. i was able to get evox up, ftp in, get my eeprom.bin, and then reburn my linux cd. did boot option 3, got to the prompt, and then  typed in unlockhd -a to unlock, and then i got some sort of error thing, but it let me continue on to type lockhd -a.. now, when i started up the xbox, the led started blinking before it even started searching for the dash, then it goes straight from the x screen to the error screen. did it not lock it back right? did I fry my hard drive? i was so close! :-(


is there any error #'x

you can always rebuild the xboxhdm cd with a stock C and try again.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Cio on September 21, 2005, 06:43:00 AM
Hook up your HD again (remember, primairy master!) and go to option 3, lockhd -a.

If that doesn't work, you can use option 4 to boot to dos and then use ATAPWD to check security status. Unlocked HD's only have a + at security supported.

I think you unlocked your HD (and have a 1.0 xbox that doesn't give error no's).

Oh and BTW, you dont need to hotswap the HD when you have the eeprom.bin dump! (cause you dont need the xbox mobo to unlock the HD anymore)
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: xlr8d-xbox on September 21, 2005, 10:21:00 AM
i realized that when i did unlockhd -a, then did lockhd -a, to continue locking, it asks [y, or n] as opposed to [yes, no] like xboxhd ... heh, i guess i got used to typeing yes.. so everything is great now, i've got xbmc up and running fine. just a note to people who read this, make sure you have a controller plugged in when you try booting after you use xboxhdm to softmod. again, thanks for all your help cio and daddj! all the naysayers to softmodding can go smoke a c__ck  beerchug.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Xavierking on September 21, 2005, 12:43:00 PM
hi... im having the same problem as some other people... i have error 16.. and i dont get the ms text... so... when do i do it? when it clicks? or... should i wait 7 secs then unplug? or.. should make it get error 12 and unplug when the led goes red? or what?? im unsure as to which method to use...
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: xlr8d-xbox on September 21, 2005, 12:51:00 PM
they way that worked for me was: leave the dvd-rom drive plugged into the ide cable; loosen the cable a little bit from the back of the hard drive so its easier to remove. take out the tray and take out the harddrive from the tray.. this makes it so much easier to access the back. when you start up the xbox, learn the timing of when the big X and the MS text come up. With mine, I would listen for the sound that comes as the X appears, and then count to 2 and then uplug the cable from the back of the harddrive. you want to unplug just before the MS text appears. speed is essential in making the swap, but so is keeping the jarring of the harddrive to a minimum.. try not to shake it too much as you swap(study the way the cables go in ahead of time)
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Xavierking on September 21, 2005, 01:45:00 PM
if that was to me... i dont get ms text...
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: trylks on October 08, 2005, 02:12:00 PM
I've been trying to make hotswap but I don't get it, I've tryed the normal way and the audio track way but the best error message I got was when initializing xbrowser an error that said:

QUOTE
Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hda...
Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hdb...
Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hdc...

No disk drive found on /dev/hda

Please connect a drive and try again
We will now search /dev/hda for an XBox partition table...

No XBox partition table found on /dev/hda

Done!!!


I've plugged the CD-ROM in the pri master IDE and sec master IDE, (if not my computer sais: "No operative system found"), and the XBox drive in the other one (pri master IDE or sec master IDE). Nothing worked. I don't know what's the problem.

Plase help me, after three hours trying I'm desperated, I know my HDD still works because I can play music from it, but I don't want to risk it too much.

Thank you.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: THE HACKER on October 10, 2005, 12:30:00 PM
So I do not need a modchip to make hotswapping work?  So this will get rid rid of error 13 and still have all my memory on my xbox because I do not want to wipe my hardrive.  But if I have to then tell me how to make a back up up my xbox's drive so I can put everything back on my xbox.  Also my xbox is version 1.4.  Can I also have some images of what it should look like when I am hotswapping.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Cio on October 10, 2005, 01:09:00 PM
@trylks
Seems ur HD is not detected. Try and disable auto detection for the primairy master (where the xboxhd will be) and SMART monitoring in ur PC BIOS. Also make sure the HD is unlocked (if its locked the loading screen will show a bunch of "drive seek complete" errors after checking hda).

Maybe, just maybe, you need to set the jumper on the HD to master or single drive.

@THE HACKER
No, Yes (if you fix the files on C), Yes C contains no user files (no need to worry), a few i think (on the main page tutorial section) but text should be enuff if you read it at least 3 times. Versions dun really matter anymore if you use up-to-date stuff (xboxhdm 1.9, ndure or uxe)
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: THE HACKER on October 11, 2005, 08:26:00 AM
biggrin.gif Great.  But one more question do I have to take apart my computer for this to work because all I have is a laptop.  Also I have no idea which cords you have to swap between your xbox and your computer.  Can you please help me?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: THE HACKER on October 12, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
Someone please help!  I am sorry for being a noob but I really want to fix my box so can you plaese help me fix my box uhh.gif.  I just really need to know which cables you have to plug in.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Manky on October 13, 2005, 06:36:00 AM
Well i must say this topic has been active for ahwile and there seems to be alot of tention but all the advise in here has been great and saved my life...... well my nephews xbox anyway.

Oh and i must agree with the other caller, blind hotswapping with the DVD IDE unlugged is the way to go.

Cheers for all the info
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: SKIBBE on October 13, 2005, 07:40:00 AM
Got some problems...

was going to be a nice friend and softmod his box, i allready got a chiped one no memory card ord what so ever thou.

the thing is, i burned the cd downloaded UXEDM-1.2 and xboxhdm

manage to do the swap at my first try, starting to backup the xbox C:\

after all that, it was time to format c:\ and i used the "rebuild options" as i have read but the thing is i got error no source files... and again error no soruce files.. by now i am all swetty thinking damn i fucked my friends xbox... running MC and i see that the CDrom folders C are emtyp is't it suposed to be like a dash installed there?!? anyway i thought if i trun of the box it will never be accesed again so i managed to copy my backup of c: back to the xbox c:\ and prayed some.. and yeah it booted..

did i screw up when not using the "softmod" script? or did i mess up not dl a dash by my self and put in the cdrom C folder?

coz i never read anything about that in the tutorial... i guess it's a good exaple of error 30 but.. any ideas?

Mvh Jan
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: SKIBBE on October 14, 2005, 04:17:00 AM
Been reading forward and backwards here in the forum, the thing i can find is this.

"
go to support files dir, run nkpatcher-06-install.bat
go to support files dir, run 71-fonts-install.bat
"

And i dl UXEDM-1.2 and xboxhdm, moved the sminstaller and such like the tut says,

and then i see in the middle of the topic page 6 i think this post.. that i have to run som bat files?!? i don't even have thouse or no support folder.. how am i supose to get this working, there is nothing about this in the tutorial.. =/

the thing with tut is that i just have t follow it and it works? with just UXEDM-1.2 and xboxhdm, and the make iso bat i should be all set acording to the tut on the first page.  but i get the source file error... there is no evox install boundled??

wierd.. and i want this so much to work!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: SKIBBE on October 14, 2005, 04:55:00 AM
softmod is teh shit!

did it again now using the command softmod, mention in the ither tutorial.. worked like a sharm.. but hey why all this confusion.... =/

i did it by the book now..

maybe i will try agin to get unleashX it's more eyecandy and i have it on my chipped box.

/Jan
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: AscanTheRed on October 16, 2005, 05:28:00 AM
smile.gif  smile.gif  Hi All From Italy !

I just wanna Say thanks, thanks thanks.... i was totttttaly noob last week ..and after some reading i'm arrived here... what to say ?

I sofmodded two xbox easly !!! ( and saved 160 $$$ )

Thanks again ( HBoxHDM + Uxe )

Just two question ..

1) i was able to find something about what't virtual c .. but nothing about when and how to use it ( i have it under evox - apps - but dunno when to use )

2 ) Same as above for detach virtual etc...

3 ) is there a guide like this one for HD upgrade after softmod ? ( i have cd with eeprom and all )

THANKS

a BOTTLE OF BEER FOT YA  beerchug.gif

Regards


PS I used blind hotswap with cd audio track method.. with dvd cable plugged worked at 1st time for two xbox !
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: trylks on October 16, 2005, 06:30:00 AM
There's one guide and a FAQ (or maybe more):

Xboxhdm For Dummies, hd rebuild, restore, upgrade ..so on
F.A.Q FOR "XBOXHDM FOR DUMMIES"

It's very easy.

1. Plug the HD in the PC and start it normaly with the Xboxhdm that contains C, E and the EEPROM.
2. Build the HD from scratch (that option is in the xboxhdm menu).
3. Poweroff the PC and start it again.
4. Start the xboxhdm with lock and unlock tools (option 3 for example).
5. Write the keys just in case and lock it.
6. You have your new HD ready to use.

For more information read the links I posted. Remember before buying a HD that not all HDs are ok for the XBox, it needs some sort of seccurity issues.

This post has been edited by trylks: Oct 16 2005, 01:31 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: AscanTheRed on October 16, 2005, 07:03:00 AM

Thx guys... just a newbie question.. how to buy a lockable drive..
i have to be lucky or there are some specification to follow ??

Thx for tutorial it seems pretty easy.   rolleyes.gif

If some one can help me about use of virtual drive and other software installed by this mod i'm done ! ( 3 utils are installed on top of evox.. 1) cd iso extraxk ok.
2 ) virtual drive and detach.. i dunno what they are doing i don't want to crash all !!)


 pop.gif


Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: jbmartin87 on October 17, 2005, 05:55:00 PM
ok... maybe i need a liitle help here
i did everything according to daddyj's tut (well at least i think i did).. then i hooked my xbox up right, powered it up and got the xbox screen of death grr.gif ... what did i do wrong... i have a v1.0... does it need to be a live updated console?

maybe i placed the uxe files in the linux>c folder wrong... if someone could tell me how to copy the right files might help.

any help would be appriciated!!

                                                                             --- Chuck
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: THE HACKER on October 18, 2005, 08:56:00 AM
I really need to know if I have to take apart my laptop to hotswap.  I really want to know which cables you have to swap fot this to work.  Also which program should I use for this to work the best.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on October 18, 2005, 09:15:00 AM
QUOTE(THE HACKER @ Oct 18 2005, 11:07 AM)
I really need to know if I have to take apart my laptop to hotswap.  I really want to know which cables you have to swap fot this to work.  Also which program should I use for this to work the best.


Hotswapping to a laptop requires 44pin to 40pin adaptors & extesnion cables.


QUOTE(jbmartin87)
ok... maybe i need a liitle help here
i did everything according to daddyj's tut (well at least i think i did).. then i hooked my xbox up right, powered it up and got the xbox screen of death  ... what did i do wrong... i have a v1.0... does it need to be a live updated console?

maybe i placed the uxe files in the linux>c folder wrong... if someone could tell me how to copy the right files might help.

any help would be appriciated!!

--- Chuck


The files might not be setup correctly, use xbrowser to correct them, did you setup UXE according to its readme?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: jbmartin87 on October 18, 2005, 04:32:00 PM
well... i'm not in a panic or anything (backing up your c: is the smartest thing you can do  biggrin.gif )...  .. i think i did things correctly: i unpacked uxe and ran the 71font file and the nkpatcher thing and then took all of the files from the uxe-c-replace folder and placed them in the linux c folder and so on. i also tried the other font file.. niether of them worked. I'm pretty sure the snafu is on my part.. but i don't quite know what i did wrong

Thanks,
---Chuck
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on October 18, 2005, 08:12:00 PM
did you place the files on E
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: THE HACKER on October 19, 2005, 08:52:00 AM
grr.gif  grr.gif  grr.gif I do not think I have any of these things.  I need to know all the materials I need to hotswap my xbox and my laptop!  You guys need to be more specific about the cords and materials!  I have no idea which adaptor I need, let alone know what an adaptor is!  Also I need more detailed instructions on how to do hotswapping.  All I know is that I have to take apart my xbox which I can do with ease.  I need a list of all the things I need to find or buy for this to work.  Also I need to know the program that will work best for me when I hotswap the cords!  God if I ever fix my error code 13 and have a perfectly goood xbox then I will be happy forever  smile.gif .
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: jbmartin87 on October 19, 2005, 03:16:00 PM
QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Oct 19 2005, 12:53 AM)
did you place the files on E
*



Yeah... in my linux c folder i have: the fonts folder and xboxdash.xbe.. and in my linux e folder i have the ROOT folder

maybe i copied the files wrong while in xbrowser?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: jbmartin87 on October 19, 2005, 04:17:00 PM
i am now the pround owner of a modded xbox!!

in my last reply i realized that i probley copied a file wrong.. so i checked.... aparently when i copied the ROOT folder i copied it to the wrong location or somethin as it was non-existant in my PriMas/e folder.. I just recopied it and reformatted c and tada..... SUCCESS!!!!!

your tut kicks ass DaddyJ... was doubting it for a while, but hey, im an idiot  biggrin.gif ...
good job man  beerchug.gif

--- Chuck
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: HushangIVVI on November 04, 2005, 05:01:00 AM
Hi, i have a quick question, im not a noob to xbox-scene or modding but i am new to hotswapping. How can i hotswap a unlocked hdd to make it locked on my xbox?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on November 04, 2005, 06:07:00 AM
QUOTE(HushangIVVI @ Nov 4 2005, 07:08 AM)
Hi, i have a quick question, im not a noob to xbox-scene or modding but i am new to hotswapping. How can i hotswap a unlocked hdd to make it locked on my xbox?
*


you cannot hotswap an unlocked drive.

you will need the eeprom or a borrowed chip to lock it correctly.

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: The_Nightstalker on November 14, 2005, 06:53:00 AM
I needed help setting up UXE for XBOXHDM but the link you had to help set it up (which really helps) went away and the readme file in uxe complete seems a lot more different than what you wrote.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on November 14, 2005, 09:30:00 AM
yeah sorry,  the scene was killing my sites bandwith.  I will try and get something up on a freesite. and will re-create the guide.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: The_Nightstalker on November 14, 2005, 03:00:00 PM
QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Nov 14 2005, 11:37 AM)
yeah sorry,  the scene was killing my sites bandwith.  I will try and get something up on a freesite. and will re-create the guide.
*



Aight.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Jenners9 on November 14, 2005, 09:24:00 PM
I'm assuming this tut works for all xbox verisons?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on November 17, 2005, 02:31:00 PM
UXE works on all XBOXs, hotswapping works on all XBOXs, in a word, yes.

Can I be expecting an xbox-xbox tutorial sometime soon? I can't find the other tutorial on this, and want to use this method as it sound a lot easier.

You who doesn't know what cables he needs, ultimately I guess none, you could wire the XBOX's hdd up to your laptop using the XBOX's IDE cable, but it would be really awkward.

(You'll want an IDE cable, the longer the better.)

This post has been edited by TheMasterChef: Nov 17 2005, 10:34 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: fiveskinoff on November 21, 2005, 05:07:00 AM
ive got mates xbox that does the xbl thing(tries 2 keep on updating) so can i just use xboxhdm as it comes or ave got to put certain things in c and e drives, we aint got eeprom or any access to the xbox at all.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on November 24, 2005, 04:06:00 PM
If the XBOX is running an application, the hard-drive must be unlocked. You should be able to just pull the IDE cable from the XBOX's hard-drve when it's trying to update and it will be unlocked, plug it into a PC with the right software running or a working modded XBOX and rebuild the hard-drive.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on November 24, 2005, 05:16:00 PM
Wooot! I finally did it! Fixed my other XBOX (downtime of... 7 months?).

Firstly, thank you DaddyJ, I owe you that console.

Secondly, some advice.

1 : Error 16 works fine for hotswapping. (Saved me unplugging and replugging my XBOX's optical drive time after time.)

2 : (For me at least) the biggest problem with the hotswapping method is knowing when to pull the cable from the hard-drive. The solution: Use your ears, not your eyes!
When your XBOX boots up (whether or not into an error) you will hear it click, then silence for about a second or two, then click again. Pull the cable when you hear the second click (just before the LED flashes red, but you don't need to worry about that) and you should have an unlocked hdd. Don't wait for the red LED! This means it's too late! (As far as I can tell.)

3 : Easy way to tell if you timed it right.
If you timed it right the XBOX's front LED will light up solid (constant) green, not red, when it no longer has the hard-drive connected.

4 : If you're going to do an XBOX-XBOX hotswap (as I did), use UnleashX (or Avalaunch I guess) rather than Slayer's, Slayer's won't tell you if it failed the file transfers, it will just seem to stop after formatting the hard-drive, I got an UnleashX error code 1117 or something when I timed it wrong and was trying to write to a locked hard-drive.
Oh, also, UnleashX won't tell you "Your hdd is locked with an unknown key" or anything, the only way to tell is to try to transfer files (see also point number 3), UnleashX listed all the usual partitions on the hdd that it couldn't possibly have read from... odd.

There are times when Slayers is the only way to go, such as if you've screwed up your partitions - the only way to fix this is through Slayers (no cache partitions means you can't run XBPartitioner), but for recovering a softmod-gone-wrong UnleashX will do fine.



Thanks again DaddyJ, I finally got it to work.

This post has been edited by TheMasterChef: Nov 25 2005, 01:21 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: ch852456 on November 26, 2005, 03:35:00 AM
QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Nov 15 2005, 03:37 AM) *

yeah sorry,  the scene was killing my sites bandwith.  I will try and get something up on a freesite. and will re-create the guide.


Seconding the request, this would be really usefull.  

Thanks for the great guide.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: ch852456 on November 26, 2005, 07:43:00 AM
Well I'm giving up after about 20 tries, I've tried just about every method for getting the hd unlocked.  Wait for red led, don't wait for red led, just load dash, copy audio track etc.  All had the same result when I type xbrowser,




Found Harddrive.
We will now search /dev/hda for an xbox partition table...

No xbox-partition table found on /dev/hda

Done!!!



Does anyone have their own little trick that's worth trying before I give up?

Cheers
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: deez206nutz on November 26, 2005, 04:20:00 PM
i am having problems with getting to the main page of xboxhdm. i've been working on this for 3+ hours....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! i checked out other forums n tired re-downloaded the program, change the bios, checked the cables and burned the program 5 times all differnt ways n i still can not get it to go. can someone help me? i have a dell dimension 8250 i saw some forum sayin that they had problems with dell. any suggestion will be great or a link to fix this? i need a fresh pair of eyes to point me in the right direction.

thanks for the tut
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on November 26, 2005, 06:41:00 PM
"Does anyone have their own little trick that's worth trying before I give up?", yeah, if you see the red LED you've done it too late, it should be solid green, don't bother plugging it into your PC if it's red.

I got the timing right without looking at the TV (hell I didn't use one) or the LEDs,  I pulled the cable when I heard the second bunch of clicking sounds, or just before it.
Also, you want the IDE cable on the hard-drive as loose as possible - so the plug is only just held on to the socket - you're going to have to pull it out at just the right time.

Personally I only managed to hotswap with an XBOX to XBOX method, but I think the dam thing was locked all the time when I tried it on my PC.

If there's any way for you to get hold of another XBOX (and get permission to open it up) I would advise you to go with that, UnleashX vs Command Line, no challenge on ease-of-use, and you can't have problems with your motherboard or anything, that second XBOX is guarantee to work, and the software is easier.

(Plus in the highly unlikely event of static frying everything, the loss is cheaper, though if you keep everything (including yourself earthed) there isn't too much risk of damaging the motherboards. Be careful not to jog the hdds too much and they'll be fine also, so long as you don't poke at the IDE pins.)
___

The following concerns XBOX-XBOX hotswaps only, where instead of connecting the 'broken' XBOX's hard-drive disk ('hdd') to your PC, you instead connect it to a working modified XBOX.

I read that if you turn off an XBOX, the hdd plugged into it locks to the code that the XBOX BIOS wants, not the code on the hard-drive's firmware, so do not leave the broken XBOX's hdd plugged into the working XBOX when you turn off the working XBOX, this way it locks back to the right code for the broken XBOX it came from. (If it locks to the wrong code you're pwned, as you evidently don't know the code you want it locked to or you wouldn't be hotswapping.)
No point plugging it back into the broken XBOX before you turn anything off - the hdd can relock itself fine without being connected to the XBOX it came from, and reconnecting it 'hot' (power on) just gives you a 0.0001% chance of frying the motherboard or the hdd, so leave the broken XBOX's hdd unplugged when you turn off the working XBOX and when you turn off the broken XBOX.

This post has been edited by TheMasterChef: Nov 27 2005, 02:53 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: deez206nutz on November 27, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
nvm...i got it to boot but now when i get to the page where i am trying to backup the c: i cannot type anything. does this mean i did not unlock the hd? can someone help me? thank you

QUOTE(deez206nutz @ Nov 27 2005, 12:20 AM) *

i am having problems with getting to the main page of xboxhdm. i've been working on this for 3+ hours....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on November 27, 2005, 06:59:00 PM
Odd, I'm guessing that is never meant to happen.

You only had the optical drive and the XBOX hdd plugged in, and both on the primary IDE slot, right? (Primary to the hdd, I believe.)

I would recommend going for an XBOX-XBOX hotswap, they can't really go wrong, but I guess I'm biased.

From what I know from when I tried it using my PC, Linux won't crash if the hdd is locked, it just won't work and might end up telling you to try again or something. Again though use my method - is the XBOX's LED lit up green or flashing red?

This post has been edited by TheMasterChef: Nov 28 2005, 03:01 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: sondrex on November 29, 2005, 08:07:00 AM
Where is the readme to UXE?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: snope on November 29, 2005, 06:35:00 PM
gratz another n1 tut

but actually its better to turn on xbox, then plug out cable afters its at ms dashboard, then put in pc ide cable and start pc u have more time and no difference to ur explenation
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on November 30, 2005, 06:59:00 AM
"but actually its better to turn on xbox, then plug out cable afters its at ms dashboard, then put in pc ide cable and start pc u have more time and no difference to ur explenation"

What? If you mean it's better to plug the hdd into your PC before turning on the computer? That is unlikely to help - plugging in the hdd after you've been through the boot process of the motherboard is best as it won't give it any chance to object to having a locked hdd plugged in.

You need to make more sense and justify your point.

"Where is the readme to UXE?", if there isn't one with the file you have, I doubt there is one. Not that you should need it, all you really need to know is that yes, there really is meant to be a folder called 'ROOT' that isn't actually a root folder, and it works on any console.

This post has been edited by TheMasterChef: Nov 30 2005, 03:01 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: ironcross on December 02, 2005, 07:35:00 AM
Hi, I've read on here before, first time posting though.

I've been trying to hotswap my Xbox hard drive so I can softmod it with XboxHDM. I have a 1.6b version Xbox, according to this site, with kernel vesion of 5838, 5960 dash. I've read this ENTIRE thread, as well as a couple others regarding hotswapping. This leads me to believe that I am either completely retarded, or this is all a consiracy and you're all liars. I'm hoping for option A. I cannot seem to unlock my hard drive. I've tried unplugging the dvd cable, I've tried doing it right as the white logo shows up, I've tried doing it after sitting at the dashboard for 5 minutes, I've tried starting a game and doing it DURING THE GAME. But every time XboxHDM tells me it's locked.

Would it be possible to tell me what exactly I am missing here?

Motherboard: Soltek SL-75FRN2
BIOS: Pheonix Technologies, LTD v6.00 PG (not sure if that's enough information for this)

Not sure if either one of those could be affecting this.

This post has been edited by ironcross: Dec 2 2005, 03:36 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on December 02, 2005, 07:43:00 PM
I read that if you have problems with a 1.6 not unlocking, copy audio from a real audio CD (not CD-R) to the XBOX hdd (using the official dashboard), then play back the audio from the hard-drive, then pause the playback and disconnect the hdd.

(IMO it would be better to not pause the playback, as this way there is definitely hdd activity --> definitely unlocked.)

I am unsure what happen when your motherboard isn't compatible. I can suggest checking your set-up I guess;

QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Dec 31 2004, 05:31 AM) *
swap the XBOX IDE cable, with the PC IDE cable. (the PC Primary IDE cable, is the Last connector on IDE Channel 0


So the only IDE devices to be plugged in are

1 : The unlocked XBOX hdd on Primary Master
2 : Your optical drive with Linux disc on Primary Slave

This post has been edited by TheMasterChef: Dec 3 2005, 03:50 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: TheMasterChef on December 02, 2005, 07:53:00 PM
Sure you can't use a save-game exploit?

You should be able to rent the required hardware, just do the relevant checks (thread here) to make sure you have an exploitable game. No real way for that to go wrong.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Jangaboo on December 10, 2005, 01:41:00 PM
QUOTE
a. Is to run a grounding strap between the PC chassis, and the Xbox Metal.
b. Is to use the PC Power supply for the Power feed to the Xbox Hard Drive.


PC Power supply power feed, meaning those power chords that hook up to the Hard-drive, CD-Rom Devices inside of the PC??? I'd use one of them and plug them into the Xbox instead correct?


QUOTE
Also download your Exploit you will be using, this Tut uses UXE
 as it is the latest exploit available.
UXE Complete v0.2.x is available at the usual spots, and is great for using with this tutorial. *** Please read & setup UXE complete according to its readme file. Check  here for my help with setting it up also.


How difficult is it to get using NDure instead of UXE? I've heard Ndure is one of the better exploits right now?

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on December 10, 2005, 03:27:00 PM
QUOTE(Jangaboo @ Dec 10 2005, 03:48 PM) View Post

PC Power supply power feed, meaning those power chords that hook up to the Hard-drive, CD-Rom Devices inside of the PC??? I'd use one of them and plug them into the Xbox instead correct?
How difficult is it to get using NDure instead of UXE? I've heard Ndure is one of the better exploits right now?


Use the PC's hd power conenctor.

Check out kingroaches PC nDure setup, then make the xboxhdm cd with that.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Jangaboo on December 16, 2005, 07:15:00 PM
Don't suppose someone could write a tutorial like DaddyJ did but instead use Ndure 3.0 beta instead of UXE???

sad.gif I'm sorry i'm just worried when I get my new Xbox that I'll screw up
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on December 16, 2005, 09:07:00 PM
Eventually I will, but its really plug in play,  use kingroach's setup and setup the Xboxhdm cd with its outputted files.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Jangaboo on December 16, 2005, 11:55:00 PM
Sweet love.gif

Thanks DaddyJ, your tutorials have been the easiest to comprehend out of all I"ve read
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Jangaboo on December 17, 2005, 01:19:00 PM
If i were to try UXE Complete and do everything according to your tutorial (For safetey reasons and to make sure i don't screw up with Ndure3.0beta)

The link for http://redeyedfoolz0.../ref/index.html is no longer working and I want to makesure i setup  uxe-complete-v0.2.2 okay

Thanks
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on December 17, 2005, 02:14:00 PM
UXE-Complete has a good readme, but it breaks down like this.

Download package and extract contents.

navigate into the package for 4 .bat files named

*=names are subject to change

nkpatcher06
nkpatcher67
fonts61
fonts71


I always use nkpatcher06 unless you have a 300+gb hd.
then start with the fonts71 file. click those files.

nkp06 = F takes rest of hd after 8gb.
nkp67 = F takes rest of hd after 8gb to 137gb, then G takes rest of hd after 137gb.

Nav to the C folder and copy its contents to the xboxhdm\c folder
Nav to the E folder and copy its contents to the xboxhdm\E  folder. the resulting xboxhdm will look like this

*drive contents subject to change inbetween packages.

xboxhdm\C
 xboxdash.xbe
 fonts\bert.xft
 fonts\ernie.xft
 fonts\nkp\default.xbe

xboxhdm\E
 ROOT\default.xbe


*NOTES
The E\ROOT\default.xbe is your default dash, if you wish to use another dash, replace these files with your new dash, making sure the main.xbe is names default.xbe.

This post has been edited by DaddyJ: Dec 17 2005, 10:16 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Jangaboo on December 17, 2005, 02:47:00 PM
awesome thank you

Bit more of questions

In Xboxhdm/linux/C/fonts I have:

 Directory of F:\XboxSet\xboxhdm\linux\C\fonts

12/17/2005  01:05 PM    <DIR>          .
12/17/2005  01:05 PM    <DIR>          ..
09/28/2004  05:00 PM                87 bert-generic.xtf
09/28/2004  05:00 PM               433 ernie.xtf
09/28/2004  05:00 PM                40 s.xtf                    <----- That supposed to be there?
12/17/2005  01:05 PM    <DIR>          nk                   <----- Supposed to be NPK?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on December 17, 2005, 07:41:00 PM
QUOTE(Jangaboo @ Dec 17 2005, 04:18 PM) View Post

awesome thank you

Bit more of questions

In Xboxhdm/linux/C/fonts I have:

 Directory of F:\XboxSet\xboxhdm\linux\C\fonts

12/17/2005  01:05 PM    <DIR>          .
12/17/2005  01:05 PM    <DIR>          ..
09/28/2004  05:00 PM                87 bert-generic.xtf
09/28/2004  05:00 PM               433 ernie.xtf
09/28/2004  05:00 PM                40 s.xtf                    <----- That supposed to be there?
12/17/2005  01:05 PM    <DIR>          nk                   <----- Supposed to be NPK?


yeah the s.xtf is a scrap font, used to cover memory layout issues, it wont hurt anything.
the nk directory prolly contains a default.xbe which is nkpatcher, so everything should be fine.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Necron on December 22, 2005, 10:25:00 PM
I have been following this tutorial, but I think there is some step I'm missing- When I choose option 2 on the xboxhd menu, afterwards my C: drive only contains the xboxdash.xbe and the fonts folder from uxe. I have tried booting it but I just get error 21. I'm guessing that there is some obvious step I'm missing like putting a default C: layout on the iso along with uxe... Please can anyone tell me what to do?

(I also tried restoring my backed up C: and manually copying the uxe files to it with xbrowser, but it just gets stuck in an "updating xbox live" loop. I also tried deleting the original fonts but that gave me error 21 again...I've been at this all night)

P.S. Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed and easy to understand tutorial. And for any other confused noobs like me,  the paths mentioned in the guide such as "CDROM\E\ROOT" are changed to "CD\E\ROOT" instead, at least in the version of xboxhdm I was using.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Necron on December 23, 2005, 09:12:00 AM
NM, I realised what I did wrong- I copied the contents of ROOT to E: instead of copying the folder... Now it works! Thanks again DaddyJ for the great tutorial! (Now I just have to get ftp working, but that's another problem...)
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: sa000584 on January 01, 2006, 06:45:00 PM
The xboxhdm software link details the following:

Do not use this package is you do not have a kernel below 5530 and dashboard version 4920.

My xbox details the following:
K:1.00.5530.01
D:1.00.5659.03

Does this mean I must downgrade my dashboard before undertaking the softmod??
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: sa000584 on January 02, 2006, 07:13:00 PM
Forget my above post.   Read on another tut that xboxhdm works with all versions of xbox and no downgrade of flash is required.  

However regarding xbrowser....is this part of xboxhdm or uxe programs...if not I cant find it in the usual places, so any clues where to get this from would be greatly appreciated.

This post has been edited by sa000584: Jan 3 2006, 03:13 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 02, 2006, 08:29:00 PM
xbrowser is a part of the xboxhdm linux package. you type that instead of xboxhd at the prompt
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: sa000584 on January 03, 2006, 03:40:00 PM
Thanks DaddyJ...one more question before I try this..  I am assuming that by performing the hotswap it installs the ftp software on the xbox, so that I can transfer files at will on to the xbox eg media centre etc.  

Can some one please confirm.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: sa000584 on January 03, 2006, 09:05:00 PM
I got so far, but not close enough

I go to this step just after loading the exploit 1 in the tut

"Exit the menu, and fire up xbrowser, on the left side point to CDROM\E\ROOT in the right side point to PriMas\E, then F5 to copy the ROOT folder.
F10 to exit. (proceed to Resume section.)"

By the way I dont have a "cdrom" directory just a "CD" directory, i am not sure whether this is causing the error below.

I tried to run F5 copy command but it gives me an error message that "Cannot create target direcotyr "/CD/E/ROOT/E"  Read Only file system (30).

What exactly is this step doing ??

Any ideas how to complete this step  ???


Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: felini on January 04, 2006, 01:28:00 PM
Something went very wrong and...i format the drive and haven´t the backup to restore.
I'm in a terrible pain!!!


I didn´t disconnected the pc or rebooted the xbox, i'm thinking if i do that i'm loosing my whole money invested on the BOX.

it ask me, for the cdrom with the containing c- and e-. Is any way to make an Cdrom with just this? and if there is, how can i make it?
Sorry, but i'm an ass!!!!

please! Can any soul help me on this!

This post has been edited by felini: Jan 4 2006, 09:34 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: sa000584 on January 05, 2006, 12:56:00 AM
THanks Daddyj for the tut....i reloaded xbrowser a few times and it let me do the step I was having problems with

"Exit the menu, and fire up xbrowser, on the left side point to CDROM\E\ROOT in the right side point to PriMas\E, then F5 to copy the ROOT folder.
F10 to exit. (proceed to Resume section.)"

Xbox has been working fine for over 24 hours.  i have FTP XBMC and dvd2xbox programs successfully.

Thanks once again.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: 0dd on January 05, 2006, 03:59:00 AM
I have problem softmoddning my xbox. I have made the cd but the folders C E & EEPROM Folders are emty, is the right?

The computer boots with the cd, but when a have press option 1 or to at the start meny, i get a messege that " the xbox HD cant find the cd, Primary master" somting like that.. So please heltp me if you can..

i connect the xbox HD at the same place on the cable i have my HD in my computer. from the mainboard to the HD and then to my CD-ROM, i only have i cable thats is suitable, i have one more but it is not wide enough tjat cable goes the my floppy, i think..

i have a hard time to explain at english but i understand english good!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: hbrdXΣr0 on January 05, 2006, 08:56:00 AM
Hey, I have an xbox that I'd like to softmod and add a 160GB hard drive. Unfortunately I'd like to keep using my two free months of Live before they're up, too. I'm wondering if it's possible to softmod my xbox and use the new hardrive with the softmod while keeping the original drive clean so I can swap drives and play on Live.

From what I can tell, I need to get my eeprom backed up to use the new HD in the xbox, which would require me to softmod the original drive. Is it possible to softmod and then remove the softmod to make the original drive clean, while my secondary larger drive has the softmod? Thanks.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 05, 2006, 06:22:00 PM
QUOTE(hÿbrîdXΣr0 @ Jan 5 2006, 10:27 AM) View Post

Hey, I have an xbox that I'd like to softmod and add a 160GB hard drive. Unfortunately I'd like to keep using my two free months of Live before they're up, too. I'm wondering if it's possible to softmod my xbox and use the new hardrive with the softmod while keeping the original drive clean so I can swap drives and play on Live.

From what I can tell, I need to get my eeprom backed up to use the new HD in the xbox, which would require me to softmod the original drive. Is it possible to softmod and then remove the softmod to make the original drive clean, while my secondary larger drive has the softmod? Thanks.


Yep, you can user live with old drive and still have other drive, and can even make it permanant by adding a switch (see hardware forums).

yep you'll only need to load a gamesave and get your eeprom to prepare the new drive.

if you dont have gamesave, then use a simple softmod, to softmod the orginal drive, (making a C & E backup of course), get eeprom, restore orignal drive, and prepare larger drive.

do not attempt to connect to live using new drive, because the xbox had connected with the old drive present.

also you can keep your orginal drive softmodded if you use a new exploit, and cold boot for live. not much room for games, but nice for having XBMC on both drives wink.gif

QUOTE(0dd @ Jan 5 2006, 05:30 AM) View Post

I have problem softmoddning my xbox. I have made the cd but the folders C E & EEPROM Folders are emty, is the right?

The computer boots with the cd, but when a have press option 1 or to at the start meny, i get a messege that " the xbox HD cant find the cd, Primary master" somting like that.. So please heltp me if you can..

i connect the xbox HD at the same place on the cable i have my HD in my computer. from the mainboard to the HD and then to my CD-ROM, i only have i cable thats is suitable, i have one more but it is not wide enough tjat cable goes the my floppy, i think..

i have a hard time to explain at english but i understand english good!


the c & e should contain the exploit, did you download uxe-complete, you some other exploit?

QUOTE(felini @ Jan 4 2006, 02:59 PM) View Post

Something went very wrong and...i format the drive and haven´t the backup to restore.
I'm in a terrible pain!!!
I didn´t disconnected the pc or rebooted the xbox, i'm thinking if i do that i'm loosing my whole money invested on the BOX.

it ask me, for the cdrom with the containing c- and e-. Is any way to make an Cdrom with just this? and if there is, how can i make it?
Sorry, but i'm an ass!!!!

please! Can any soul help me on this!


You'll need to make sure the exploit is on the xboxhdm cd before burning, then re-hotswap, since you formateed the drive before backup, your xbox will boot into an error.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Exorph on January 17, 2006, 04:09:00 AM
Umm.. I followed the tutorial on backing up the C drive perfectly and ended up with an empty ORIG_BACKUP directory and a C directory in the root of the E drive.. will this matter? If it does, you should probably fix the tutorial so that it says you should highlight ORIG_BACKUP and press enter before copying the files.

I have another question on the last step too. Probably very newbie-ish, but that's what I am so..
Basically, when and why would I need the Master Password?
I'm asking because I'm getting a bit paranoid over how smooth everything went and I'm now a bit afraid I'll mess something up if I hotswap again. So if I would only need it in certain situations, I'm thinking I should wait until at least tomorrow so I can cool down a bit first.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 17, 2006, 06:34:00 AM
QUOTE(Exorph @ Jan 17 2006, 06:09 AM) View Post

Umm.. I followed the tutorial on backing up the C drive perfectly and ended up with an empty ORIG_BACKUP directory and a C directory in the root of the E drive.. will this matter? If it does, you should probably fix the tutorial so that it says you should highlight ORIG_BACKUP and press enter before copying the files.

I have another question on the last step too. Probably very newbie-ish, but that's what I am so..
Basically, when and why would I need the Master Password?
I'm asking because I'm getting a bit paranoid over how smooth everything went and I'm now a bit afraid I'll mess something up if I hotswap again. So if I would only need it in certain situations, I'm thinking I should wait until at least tomorrow so I can cool down a bit first.



if you backed your eeprom.bin up, and re-created the xboxhdm cd with it, you wouldnt need to hotswap to set the master password. setting the master password is more of a last saftey measure... or you lose your eeprom.bin or cd.. you can unlock the drive using the master password.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Exorph on January 17, 2006, 06:45:00 AM
Thanks a lot.
Then I'll just make several cds with the EEPROM instead so I can't lose it. ^^
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: swars on January 17, 2006, 07:08:00 PM
Hi.

I've softmodded my xbox and works very well.

Now I want to change the HD. I've used the xboxhdm with the new disc, and I've locked it with the lockhd and the eeprom.bin that I have. It says "completed sucessfully", but I've a pretty error 13 in my xbox. I've tried to repeat the process. I can unlock it, xbrowser and all seems to be good. But the error 13 is still there. With the old HD, all is fine.

Can you help me?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Epaige on January 17, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
QUOTE(swars @ Jan 18 2006, 04:08 AM) View Post

Hi.

I've softmodded my xbox and works very well.

Now I want to change the HD. I've used the xboxhdm with the new disc, and I've locked it with the lockhd and the eeprom.bin that I have. It says "completed sucessfully", but I've a pretty error 13 in my xbox. I've tried to repeat the process. I can unlock it, xbrowser and all seems to be good. But the error 13 is still there. With the old HD, all is fine.

Can you help me?


Sounds like you tried copying the C: drive after it was softmodded..you should have a backup of stock C: on the E: drive thats what you need to use..and if you dont grab slayer and extract the files from System/all/C: and use them...
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: JamieB on January 28, 2006, 06:30:00 PM
Thank you DaddyJ. It worked first time including the hotswap from the xboxhdm screen. This tutorial is just what us noobs need. I have one point from the tut on page 1 that might cause problems if not paying attention

quote:
Install Exploit 1 (Already Partitioned HD)
We are only concerned with Option 2 {Rebuild C Partition} ***(WARNING, this will delete everything on the C partition, Make sure you backup or C)
This formats the C, and then copies the contents of CDROM\C into PriMas\C, (when prompted type yes )and then drop you back to the menu
Exit the menu, and fire up xbrowser, on the ****" left side point to CDROM\E\ROOT in the right side point to PriMas\E, then F5 to copy the ROOT folder "*****.
F10 to exit. (proceed to Resume section.)

If the highlighted section is executed in thiss order by choosing the left file then the right file and hitting F5 you might overwrite the files in CDROM\E\Root with the empty Dir PriMas\E on the right. I'm not sure if this is the case but I thought I'd bring it up for clarification.
Thanks again
JamieB
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on January 28, 2006, 08:12:00 PM
u cant copy anything to the cd, its read only.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: JamieB on January 28, 2006, 08:45:00 PM
QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Jan 28 2006, 10:12 PM) *

u cant copy anything to the cd, its read only.

OK now I really feel like a noob lol.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Tomdabomb3333 on March 07, 2006, 04:02:00 PM
Alright, first off i'm a newbie so take it easy.  I have an old Xbox that I haven't been using becuase the dvd-lens is dirty. So i decided I'd try to hotswap and try my luck with soft-modding.  after reading many tuts on the subject I was ready to give it a shot.  I couldn't reach that guy from his auto response e-mail to get the right UXE installer so I went with KingRaches Ndure 3.0.   Installed it like the read-me said to do for XboxHDM.  Burned the bootable CD-RW and was ready to go.  

!Hotswap time!  This is the problem I boot the xbox without the dvd-drive's IDE cable plugged in, so its in an error 12.  For some reason it still says the primary drive is locked when I boot into XboxHDMaker. Can't figure it out.  Tried many different methods to lock it.  ex. Rip audio track and swap, MS dash swap....any other suggestions?

I figured I had the XB harddrives master-slave switch in the wrong spot.  What should that be set on?

K: 1.00.5101.01
D: 1.00.4920.01
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Tomdabomb3333 on March 07, 2006, 08:16:00 PM
After reading a little bit more i found that i probably didn't hotswap right.  

Although, I have 2 xbox's and decided to take apart the newer one.  Hotswapped trght from the MS dash and it worked(wasn't locked) so I got into Xbrowser and looked around alittle, tryed to backup my Xbox C/ in the ORIG_BACKUP folder...and after about 50% it started giving me errors saying

Cannot write target file"/ORIG_BACKUP/AV`ineroom_LR.wav"
No space left on hard device
Goes through a bunch of errors saying it can write some wav files.

Most importantly it said it couldnt write my XBDash.XBE....Should I continue w/o backup.  

What could happen if I procede like normal and erase the XBHD and copy the NDure 3.0 files directly onto it  C for C, and E for E.  Just like you would do with the UXE Complete package.

the newer X-Box has a Dash in the 5000' but that shouldn't matter anymore right?

PS.  don't know if this is thr right place for this but, can you take parts from other x-boxes and exchange them.. EX.  My dirty DVD-Rom in my old one Replaced with one that reads.  I know different boxes have different parts but didnt know if you could swap em'

thanks for any help
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on March 08, 2006, 09:16:00 AM
yeah parts are interchangable, excpet psu's....

as far as backup is concerned, its advisable, but not required...
you were just out of space, too many save games, or music tracks....
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: barrage_man on March 11, 2006, 08:17:00 PM
Ehhh.. I don't know why but I'm having absolutely NO LUCK with hotswapping. I had the error 16, but I pulled out the IDE to the DVD drive, so now I have error 12. No matter what I try, it never seems to unlock.

I can't try the LED red/green pin thing because my dumbass bro broke the original casing and had to get a new case where the LEDS just keep flashing between red and yellow non-stop.

Can someone give me a time of when they hotswap it? (record from the time they push the power button to when they pull the IDE to the drive) becuase I do this thing without a TV.

Also, I seem to notice an anomally between my hard drive and others. When power goes to the hard drive, I can hear the clicking (i.e when I'm turing the xbox on)
BUT when I keep the hard drive attached to my PC  psu, the clicking never comes, only when it first recieves power (since my computer psu stays on, the power to the drive doesn't go away)

PLEASE HELP!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on March 13, 2006, 05:08:00 AM
QUOTE(barrage_man @ Mar 11 2006, 10:17 PM) View Post

Ehhh.. I don't know why but I'm having absolutely NO LUCK with hotswapping. I had the error 16, but I pulled out the IDE to the DVD drive, so now I have error 12. No matter what I try, it never seems to unlock.

I can't try the LED red/green pin thing because my dumbass bro broke the original casing and had to get a new case where the LEDS just keep flashing between red and yellow non-stop.

Can someone give me a time of when they hotswap it? (record from the time they push the power button to when they pull the IDE to the drive) becuase I do this thing without a TV.

Also, I seem to notice an anomally between my hard drive and others. When power goes to the hard drive, I can hear the clicking (i.e when I'm turing the xbox on)
BUT when I keep the hard drive attached to my PC  psu, the clicking never comes, only when it first recieves power (since my computer psu stays on, the power to the drive doesn't go away)

PLEASE HELP!


Red & yellow flashing usually means the video connector isnt connected, in which the drive will never unlock.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: barrage_man on March 13, 2006, 07:33:00 PM
Video connector? You need that plugged in? Then how do you do a blind swap? Do you leave the vid connector plugged in, but not connected to a tv?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: barrage_man on March 13, 2006, 09:29:00 PM
They should really let you edit your posts =/

Anyways, yeah this time I have my vid cable plugged in (solved that dumb problem...  tongue.gif  )

Now, when I turn it on, it automatically has a RED led, and then after starts to flash green/red. I don't know whats wrong here. sad.gif Still unsuccessful with hotswap. Please help!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: rajien2 on March 20, 2006, 07:14:00 PM
Also download your Exploit you will be using, this Tut uses UXE
[/quote]
ok so i downloaded the 2 files the patchis and the fronts ok so what do i do with them do i put them with the xboxhdm some on plz help
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: losman on March 22, 2006, 05:34:00 AM
Thank You Thank You Thank You XBOX-SCENE Community!

I had not dash or game play and was able to use the steps to successfully get my sys back up and running.
Here are a couple of things I learned:

1) Your PC (& bios) should be fairly current. I tried using an old spare pc and it would not allow the IsoLinux CD to boot. (yes everything was set up correctly)

2) The issue about when to connect the drive to the PC: which to choose: a) Pause/Break b) Wait till XboxHDMaker Menu. I tried using the 'B' method about 10 times with no luck, then I tried the Pause/Break method and it worked on the first try. Instead of being a personal preference of which one to use, it may rely more on the PC/System that you have. In other words, be prepared to try both methods if one does not work initially...

Awesome Awesome TUT! Thank You
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: deinon on August 07, 2006, 05:46:00 PM
1st i gotta say gret tut. Simple and well explained. After much user error I finally installed everything correctly but for some reason im getting an error 21. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: kpetti11 on August 09, 2006, 07:56:00 PM
Hi, I'm new to modding, but i followed your tut perfectly and everything ran just fine. After poweroff, i replugged my xbox's IDE cable correctly, shut the xbox off, and then started it back up again. When i started it back up, though, the xbox froze on the opening screen after the MS logo showed up. I can still run games, how ever, and that makes me wonder if i didn't load a dashboard, so the Xbox is searching for a dash to replace the MS one and tahts why it froze... Just wondering if you guys could help

Thanks
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: wpack on August 14, 2006, 12:14:00 PM
sad.gif   need help!!

I didn't following the instruction closely, need help!!
after I format the HD,  in Install Exploit 1 step, I didn't  do "fire up xbrowser, on the left side point to CDROM\E\ROOT in the right side point to PriMas\E, then F5 to copy the ROOT folder. F10 to exit."  I just power off, so now my xbox hang after the logo comes out, when I try to do the hotswap again, I got hd seek error. and xbrowser can't find the HD.   Please help!!

Thanks for the help.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: deinon on August 15, 2006, 06:51:00 PM
Amazing!! Is exactly what this tut is. I for one daddy thank you for taking time from your life to write this noob friendly tutorial. So far i have modded 3 boxes using this method and will soon be working on my 4th. Once again THX
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: deinon on August 17, 2006, 04:39:00 AM
QUOTE(kpetti11 @ Aug 10 2006, 02:56 AM) View Post

Hi, I'm new to modding, but i followed your tut perfectly and everything ran just fine. After poweroff, i replugged my xbox's IDE cable correctly, shut the xbox off, and then started it back up again. When i started it back up, though, the xbox froze on the opening screen after the MS logo showed up. I can still run games, how ever, and that makes me wonder if i didn't load a dashboard, so the Xbox is searching for a dash to replace the MS one and tahts why it froze... Just wondering if you guys could help

Thanks




Hmm did you copy of contents of the c: and e: folder from the cd you the c: and e: folders on your xbox harddrive.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: jonels on August 17, 2006, 05:41:00 AM
QUOTE(wpack @ Aug 14 2006, 07:21 PM) View Post

sad.gif   need help!!

I didn't following the instruction closely, need help!!
after I format the HD,  in Install Exploit 1 step, I didn't  do "fire up xbrowser, on the left side point to CDROM\E\ROOT in the right side point to PriMas\E, then F5 to copy the ROOT folder. F10 to exit."  I just power off, so now my xbox hang after the logo comes out, when I try to do the hotswap again, I got hd seek error. and xbrowser can't find the HD.   Please help!!

Thanks for the help.


all the e:\root has in is the dash, that's why it stays blank  (unless you did something else wrong setting up the exploit, which exploit did you use ? if it was uxe-complete did you run the 2 .bat files needed before making the cd ?)

If the expoit is good you should still be able to boot discs from cold-boot.

So create an unleashx boot disc...

Get unleashx, and unpack the files into a folder, making sure when you open the folder you can see the deafult.xbe for unleashx

Now get 'Qwix'  , and use this to create an xbox compatable ISO from that folder

burn that iso to disc you know will work on you're xbox (as an image, if you look at the disc in windows and see "filename.iso" you have done wrong. if correct windows shouldn't be able to read it)

cold boot it on you're xbox and un-leashx should run, now use the file broswer in unleashx and create a folder called 'root' on the e: drive, then copy the files and folders on you're disc d:\ to that folder.

Now you're box will boot to un-leashx instead of a blank screen.


Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: wpack on August 20, 2006, 02:31:00 PM
QUOTE(jonels @ Aug 17 2006, 12:48 PM) View Post

all the e:\root has in is the dash, that's why it stays blank  (unless you did something else wrong setting up the exploit, which exploit did you use ? if it was uxe-complete did you run the 2 .bat files needed before making the cd ?)

If the expoit is good you should still be able to boot discs from cold-boot.

So create an unleashx boot disc...

Get unleashx, and unpack the files into a folder, making sure when you open the folder you can see the deafult.xbe for unleashx

Now get 'Qwix'  , and use this to create an xbox compatable ISO from that folder

burn that iso to disc you know will work on you're xbox (as an image, if you look at the disc in windows and see "filename.iso" you have done wrong. if correct windows shouldn't be able to read it)

cold boot it on you're xbox and un-leashx should run, now use the file broswer in unleashx and create a folder called 'root' on the e: drive, then copy the files and folders on you're disc d:\ to that folder.

Now you're box will boot to un-leashx instead of a blank screen.



Thanks for you help, I did the hotswap again and copy all the file to the C and E, UXEE.  now when I boot the xbox, the UXE complete menu is up but there is respond for any of the selection I selected.  I.e. I select the "System Util" but doesn't matter which button I push, nothing happen.

once angain, thanks for your help

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: tsioc on August 20, 2006, 05:25:00 PM
I've been trying to howswap with no luck so far.  (trying to fix a bad softmod)

When I just let the xbox boot with no disc in the drive it show the MS logo, but then it goes to a blank screen, the led turns red(like I has set in the softmod), and is seems to sit there.  After a couple minutes or so the led starts to cycle (all 3 colors) and a minute or two after that the background of the MS dash comes up, but is moving incredibly slowly, after a little while longer it asks me to set the clock.  I've tried pressing A at this point but nothing seems to happen.  I've tried booting with a retail game in the drive, but after the MS logo it goes to a blank screen and stops there with the LED still green.  

I tried hotswapping with a modded xbox, and it would either error out, or boot to the modchip bios, but that bios was sooooo slow that I couldn't use it.  (I'm using an X3).  Any ideas?

I used SID 4.5, with the single boot option.

This post has been edited by tsioc: Aug 21 2006, 12:31 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: tsioc on August 20, 2006, 07:54:00 PM
nevermind, I finally got it working.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: ghostserver on September 02, 2006, 09:59:00 PM
Help Needed
I am a toatla newbiee to Xbox softmodding. iam trying to mod my first xbox, iam stuxk at hot swapping.

the first time when i removed the DVD IDE cable i got an error 12 but there was not success at that time. After that i started getting error 6 and 7 continiously.

So i thought of using the audio cd way of unlockingthe Xbox. But still it comes up error no 6.

Iam stuck at this stage can any body please help me..

when i connect the harddiskback and try to boot up the xbox in the normal way. It gives me error no 6.

This post has been edited by ghostserver: Sep 3 2006, 05:18 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Mr_Tall on September 25, 2006, 11:36:00 AM
A big thanks!

I broke my Xbox by changing a file I shouldn't have after I soft modded it - luckily the first thing I did after modding it was copy the whole drive to my PC.

The xbox wouldn't boot, but using this hotswapping trick has enabled me to fix it.

Spurred on by that success, I've now crammed a 160GB HDD in there, and it all works perfectly, with no mod-chips or anything.

Again, thanks!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Deuce312 on September 26, 2006, 01:10:00 PM
Anyone know if I would be able to do a hotswap to my dell using a converter?

my Dell's HDD is SATA while the xbox's HDD is IDE. meaning my mother board doesnt have the right cables for me to connect the xbox's hard drive to it. Is there anyway i can use a IDE to USB? maybe an IDE to SATA conector?


thanks for the help.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
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Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: lmastercheifl on October 31, 2006, 08:58:00 PM
I did everything the way the tut said and my xbox boots up to the microsoft logo and stays there, it doesn't boot an exploit,dash, or anything. Not even an error.

QUOTE
Install Exploit 2 (Un-Partition HD *Needs EEPROM *Requires Locking)
All you need to run is Option 1 and it will wipe the complete drive, partition & format the drive, and then copy the CDROM\C & CDROM\E to PriMas\C & PriMas\E (when prompted type yes ). Then drop to the menu again.

Resume
After it is finished, your xbox hd will be ready, so hit Option 8 to drop back to the prompt and type
poweroff


After I "dropped to the menu again" The tut says resume, I hope I didn't have to do anything else because I dropped out of menu and typed poweroff because I don't know what you meant by "Resume."

Please help, thanks.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: vipergtk22 on December 31, 2006, 05:46:00 PM
When I am hotswapping i get to the prompt and type xbrowser but it says there is no xbox-partition found.
What do I do? What does this mean?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: viker on January 13, 2007, 01:10:00 PM
I did everything like the tutorial said...
After i tryed to hotswap the hdd didnt unlock

When i putted back in the Xbox and restrted the xbox it gaave me Error 06

Now what can i do to unlock the HDD?

The xbox is not moded or anything

Any suggestions ?
PLz i need help
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: millakilla on January 23, 2007, 12:31:00 AM
couldnt xboxhdm be used to fix an error 16 without having to rebuild the whole drive. is there a way to set the clock or bypass the setting through the hd (by hotswapping)


sorry if this has been answered before, i couldnt find it anywhere, seems like it should be simple

thanks
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: torne on January 23, 2007, 04:04:00 AM
QUOTE(millakilla @ Jan 23 2007, 07:38 AM) View Post

couldnt xboxhdm be used to fix an error 16 without having to rebuild the whole drive. is there a way to set the clock or bypass the setting through the hd (by hotswapping)
sorry if this has been answered before, i couldnt find it anywhere, seems like it should be simple

The clock isn't on the HD, it's on the motherboard.

If you have an ancient softmod which suffers from clock problems, use xboxhdm to install NDURE instead (rebuilding the HD is not needed, just replace the contents of C and any dirs on E used by the softmod) as modern softmods like NDURE function perfectly whether the clock is set or not.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: PaskaJaska on February 04, 2007, 11:50:00 PM
which programm should i burn that cd with? and which option do i choose, create bootdisc?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: trogdor097 on February 28, 2007, 11:39:00 PM
ok i lookD it over and over again and i cant seem to get the hole switching the cables whal its loading and PC power cable switching part could you help or someone PM me about it plz
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: jaymo74 on April 17, 2007, 08:06:00 PM
see i can hotswap like a mother... and restore the files to normal with no probs; it's just the actual mod that's eluding me. everything ends up looking good until i reboot it and get nothing. been tryin' it off and on for the past year. i get tired of it not working and then restore it again. lol

as for the hotswap, what works really well (for me) is pulling the dvd cable before start (which'll throw you an error when you do start); the instant the button led flashes red, pull your hd cable. i know it's been repeated several times through these pages, but i figured... what da hell.  laugh.gif  we're up to around 20? if you end up with a misinstall and can't boot this way  rolleyes.gif  i've also done the middle of a soundtrack trick (this one you'll have to search for) i've done these without a monitor, you'll get the feel for it.

i just wish i could talk as confidentally about the actual mod. lmfao. well... i've got some hunting of my own to do.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: trevornewell on May 03, 2007, 05:20:00 PM
ok i have read almost all of this post and i was wondering what the next step (after moding my xbox) would be to install xbmc. any help would be great.

trevor
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: DaddyJ on May 04, 2007, 09:35:00 AM
QUOTE(trevornewell @ May 3 2007, 05:56 PM) View Post

ok i have read almost all of this post and i was wondering what the next step (after moding my xbox) would be to install xbmc. any help would be great.

trevor


Make an apps folder and extract the xbmc, and ftp into the apps folder.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Smaaaa on May 27, 2007, 08:19:00 PM
First post wooooooo. Thanks, DaddyJ, for the awesome tutorial. I just purchased an Xbox for the sole purpose of installing XBMC, and this thread has helped me a TON.

I've run in to an odd problem, though. I managed to get the Xbox hard drive unlocked and followed the instructions on backing-up the existing drive and copying over the C and E drives from the CD-R I burned. However, when I re-attached the drive to the Xbox IDE cable and restarted, it ran the flubber intro, "Microsoft" showed up at the bottom, then the video dropped out for a split second and came back with the "Your Xbox needs service" Green Screen Of Death. I have a version 1.0 Xbox from November 2001, so there is no error number displayed. Restarting multiple times both yesterday and today offered no change.

I've tried re-connecting the drive to my PC (the drive is able to be read and written to) and re-copying the data from the CD over, with no change to the problem. I'm using UXE v0.2.2 and followed the .bin instructions as listed in the readme. The contents of the C and E drive folders on the CD I burned are as follows:

\C\xboxdash.xbe
\C\fonts\bert_generic.xtf
\C\fonts\ernie.xtf
\C\fonts\s.xtf
\C\fonts\nk\devz3ro
\C\fonts\nk\nkpatcher.xbe
\C\fonts\nk\apps
\C\fonts\nk\apps\detacher\default.xbe
\C\fonts\nk\apps\isoripper\backup.cfg
\C\fonts\nk\apps\isoripper\default.xbe
\C\fonts\nk\apps\shadowcmaker\default.xbe

\E\root\default.xbe
\E\root\evox.ini
\E\root\skin\project_mayhem_ii\loading.jpg
\E\root\skin\project_mayhem_ii\menu.jpg
\E\root\skin\project_mayhem_ii\skin.ini
\E\root\trainers\ (empty directory)

I made sure to copy both the C and E drive contents from the CD over to the Xbox drive. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem might be, or anything I could do to try and identify the cause? I am a complete noob in regards to all this, so thanks in advance for any help!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Falcon9x5 on June 04, 2007, 08:02:00 AM
I seem to have a problem with hotswapping:

I've hotswapped twice now (first time for inital softmod, second time to try and fix an UnleashX install - which didn't work).
For some reason, I seem completely unable to hotswap any more. I know the hard drive is working, as it loads game saves etc fine, but I must've tried 10-15 times to hotswap, without success.

I can't get into the MS Dash (though, like I said, I can play games fine), so I can't use the rip-song-play-song unlock method (which I used for the first hotswap). I can't quite remember what I tried for the second hotswap, maybe Error 12.

Anyway, so far I have tried:
Error 12 with no power to DVD.
Error 12 with no IDE to DVD.
Error 12 with no IDE or power to DVD.
Hot swapping on Red led (how accurate does this have to be? is it just a general timing, or does is have to be exactly on the switch to red?)
Hot swapping before white MS text on startup

What seems to happen is that whenever I hotswap to the pc, the pc suddenly refuses to recognise the cd drive (which is in the IDE slave position, the Xbox HD is in master). This seems to happen whether it's before I choose to boot off the cd (at which point, it either boots into Windows, or tells me no NTLDR - or whatever - found on the disk), at the Xboxhdm prompt (where hitting 1 just causes the pc to freeze) or once it's booted into Linux (when I try to run xbrowser, it tell me to put in the Linux disc)

Is this a hotswap problem, a problem with my disk, a problem with my pc, or a problem with my Xbox hard drive?

Thanks!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: deathwilldie on June 17, 2007, 02:07:00 PM
What kind of computers do you have to have to do this?  Can you use a Windows ME?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: triggernum5 on June 18, 2007, 05:34:00 PM
You need a computer with a standard ide cable long enough to reach your xbox, a cdrom, and a keyboard..  Your primary master ide cable is probably (almost positively) plugged into your ME drive, and thats typically unplugged to go into the xbox hdd..  The OS boots from the cd, and its Linux baby..
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Lance5057 on July 17, 2007, 05:31:00 PM
QUOTE(Falcon9x5 @ Jun 4 2007, 09:38 AM) View Post

What seems to happen is that whenever I hotswap to the pc, the pc suddenly refuses to recognise the cd drive (which is in the IDE slave position, the Xbox HD is in master). This seems to happen whether it's before I choose to boot off the cd (at which point, it either boots into Windows, or tells me no NTLDR - or whatever - found on the disk), at the Xboxhdm prompt (where hitting 1 just causes the pc to freeze) or once it's booted into Linux (when I try to run xbrowser, it tell me to put in the Linux disc)

Is this a hotswap problem, a problem with my disk, a problem with my pc, or a problem with my Xbox hard drive?

Thanks!

I have the same problem, my computer refuses to run both the HD and the disk at the same time..
Anyone have a answer?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: rebirth on August 10, 2007, 06:19:00 PM
i'm sorry but i'm jus a noob at this.

Here is my current situation/problem:
I attempted to hotswamp(not sure if i did it right or not, I've tried error 11, no dvd ide, gameplay, music, and the 8 sec count).  When I think I did it successfully I would type 1 to enter vga mode and it would give me picture 1. Other times it would read unknown patrition. I'm wondering if the HD is still locked in picure 1.
I bought my xbox the 2nd year it came out and played halo2  on it.

Also if it helps anyone to help me, my computer has 2 SATA HD connceted by I tried eliminating that as a factor for the problem by disconnecting the SATA connection on the mother board. My cd-rom drive is connected by a seperate ribbion than the one that IDE that is being used to connect to the xbox HD.

I think that's all the information I have about my situation, been trying this for a few months(a few days each month). I'm really hoping to softmod my xbox. Thanks in advance, and just thanks for taking to read my problem.

Picture 1:
(IMG:http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5076/snc10727ge9.th.jpg)
Click to enlarge.


Thanks in advance (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: SC10-E on August 12, 2007, 12:06:00 AM
your still locked.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: rebirth on August 12, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

So if I'm going to unlock while playing a game, when should I swap it? For say a specific game like Halo 2?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: SC10-E on August 12, 2007, 07:20:00 AM
QUOTE(rebirth @ Aug 12 2007, 02:28 AM) View Post

Thanks smile.gif

So if I'm going to unlock while playing a game, when should I swap it? For say a specific game like Halo 2?


Is it already modded?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: rebirth on August 13, 2007, 09:33:00 PM
My xbox isn't modded yet but alot of failed attempts at hot-swapping.


Would it be okay if I asked you on Msn?

This post has been edited by rebirth: Aug 14 2007, 04:34 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Essenar on August 13, 2007, 09:17:00 PM
QUOTE(rebirth @ Aug 10 2007, 05:19 PM) View Post



Also if it helps anyone to help me, my computer has 2 SATA HD connceted by I tried eliminating that as a factor for the problem by disconnecting the SATA connection on the mother board. My cd-rom drive is connected by a seperate ribbion than the one that IDE that is being used to connect to the xbox HD.




IIRC, you have to connect the HD and the CD drive on the same ribbon on the Primary IDE slot.  You set the CD drive to master and the hD to slave.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: rebirth on August 14, 2007, 11:33:00 PM
^I'll try that tomorrow when I get back from work.
Thanks in adv.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Slane420 on August 15, 2007, 02:52:00 AM
QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Jan 1 2005, 05:02 PM) View Post
Adding a gamesave, thru hotswapping
Hope that clears some confusion about that, and if you have something to add, please add it.
Hotswapping a gamesave is only neccessary if you dont have a memory card, but own an exploitable game wink.gif


 

Omg thank you! I been looking for this and a easy round about way. You are god haha! I put krazies save file in E: part of the folder. Before I did that I was about to keep it as "UDATA" and also made a "TDATA" folder I bet i would of screwed it up if I left it. Gonna give that a go. One question though I never see anyone answer. Do you put and run the exploit first then install the dashboard or first install xboxhdm then run the exploit? I know it sounds silly lol.

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Slane420 on August 15, 2007, 05:04:00 AM
QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Dec 17 2005, 11:17 PM) View Post


yeah the s.xtf is a scrap font, used to cover memory layout issues, it wont hurt anything.
the nk directory prolly contains a default.xbe which is nkpatcher, so everything should be fine.


 

Question out of the three folders from the new fonts what one should I use for bert file? Each folder has like 9 diffrent bert type files.

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Slane420 on August 16, 2007, 03:24:00 AM
QUOTE(jonels @ May 6 2005, 06:21 PM) View Post
you''ll get it ..

1) unzip uxe complete v0.21
2) open the uxe complete v0.21 folder
3) open the supportfiles folder
4) run the 2 batch files i mentioned above
5) now get the contents of uxe-c-replace folder onto your xbox c:drive using the same method you used before with hotswap/xbrowser


the xbox c:\ should look something like this when your done

c:\xboxdash.xbe
c:\fonts\dashboard (folder) and its contents
c:\fonts\nk (folder) and its contents
c:\fonts\bert-generic.xtf
c:\fonts\ernie.xtf


 

I ran the ude2-complete-v0.2.2 bat files and poot them where they are supposed to go. The fonts folder did not have a dashboard folder. The only dashboard folder was in "E:/root" .  My xbox just hangs at the xbox logo and does nothing. Even when I put a game in. This is after i followed the tut and everything. Thing is i would try again but i cant get my harddrive to unlock no more no matter how many times i hotswap it! I know I am doing it right because just like 30 mins ago I unlocked it and installed xboxhdm. Can ANYONE please help me? Wake up this thread is like dead for a week now.

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: pnilz on October 02, 2007, 07:49:00 AM
I have tried this so much and i think my xbox must hate me.

i connect the drive to my chipped xbox, start the xchanger menu and go in and unlock the hdd, i get the message "hdd is unlocked, press a to reboot" so i pop out the ide cable and my pc is at the menu where i choose 1-4 and pop the pc's ide cable in the hdd and press 2 and enter. typing xbrowser and it says "hdd found, checking for xbox partition" and then i get no partition found, damnit.

What the hell is wrong with my drive?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: pnilz on October 02, 2007, 09:09:00 AM
I have tried this so much and i think my xbox must hate me.

i connect the drive to my chipped xbox, start the xchanger menu and go in and unlock the hdd, i get the message "hdd is unlocked, press a to reboot" so i pop out the ide cable and my pc is at the menu where i choose 1-4 and pop the pc's ide cable in the hdd and press 2 and enter. typing xbrowser and it says "hdd found, checking for xbox partition" and then i get no partition found, damnit.

What the hell is wrong with my drive?

EDIT: i know my drives key, anyway to unlock with option 3 and still use option 2 without reboot?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: davym on February 03, 2020, 02:04:00 PM
Hi, i'm new to  softmodding Xbox.
I'm trying to follow this tutorial but if the bootable disk boots and try to typ "xbrowser" it says ther no xbox partition or something...

help ?
edit: i realy need some help at modding my xbox !!!
could somebody explain ?
i don't understand the tutorial...i did what asked in uxe-complete-v0.2.2
then i made iso with xboxhdm_v1.9
i boot the cd, and then ? ! ><

This post has been edited by davym: Yesterday, 10:18 PM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Baka_Kyuubi84 on April 17, 2008, 06:22:00 PM
Yea hi. I am trying to soft mod my xbox but I keep getting this message:

Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hda
Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hdb
Looking for CD-ROM in /dev/hdc

No disk drive found on /dev/hda
We will now search /dev/hda  for an xbox partition table
No xbox partition table found on /dev/hda

    I have tried copying a cd track to the hard drive then playing. I have tried the error 12 way. I have also tried inputting a game and trying that way. I have even tried the M$ logo way. But all have failed. I am not sure why my drive is not unlocking.

    I know my IDE cable from my computer is correct because I took it out from my hard drive on my computer. I made sure to check if it was primary and it was. I have my secondary IDE cable going to my two DVD drives the slave on that is the one the cd is in. I have tried this at least 15 times already always getting the same message. I came here wondering if anyone can help me on this. I am just lost because I tried so many times but it is still not working.

Also if anyone needs my computer info I have an emachines T2885.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: ldotsfan on April 17, 2008, 06:57:00 PM
xboxhdm will inform you if the hdd is locked with a message "Your Xbox drive is locked" so I don't think it's an issue with unlocking since you didn't get that message.

So some obvious things first:
1. Is there power to your hdd? From PC or xbox?
2. It is also possible during hotswapping you have somehow damaged the hdd. If you reconnect back the hdd to the xbox and power up, is it working still? Can you go to ms dash?
3. You could also type dmesg | grep hda at xboxhdm prompt to see if xboxhdm can see your hdd.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Baka_Kyuubi84 on April 17, 2008, 11:58:00 PM
QUOTE(ldotsfan @ Apr 17 2008, 03:33 PM) *

xboxhdm will inform you if the hdd is locked with a message "Your Xbox drive is locked" so I don't think it's an issue with unlocking since you didn't get that message.
So some obvious things first:
1. Is there power to your hdd? From PC or xbox?
2. It is also possible during hotswapping you have somehow damaged the hdd. If you reconnect back the hdd to the xbox and power up, is it working still? Can you go to ms dash?
3. You could also type dmesg | grep hda at xboxhdm prompt to see if xboxhdm can see your hdd.

1. Yes there is power from the xbox I do not unplug the power cable from the xbox hdd just the ide cable to switch out.
2. Hdd is not damaged because I can still go into the ms dash and play music and go into my saves.
3. I will try that to see if it will work but at this moment I am unsure. But what woulD I do if it does not see my hdd?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: ldotsfan on April 18, 2008, 08:47:00 PM
If you really can't get xboxhdm to recognize your hdd, try using xplorer360 in Windows instead. You still need to hotswap before hand. Partition 3 is C drive , Partition 4 is E drive. Backup contents of these 2 partitions first. Then delete everything away in partition 3. Kingroach's installer creates 2 folders: C and E. Use the contents of these folders: C to partition 3, E to partition 4 to copy over.

This post has been edited by ldotsfan: Apr 19 2008, 03:48 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Gianthogweed on September 22, 2008, 02:44:00 AM
I can't lock the hard drive because xboxhdm says it's frozen.  Also my original xbox hard drive can't be locked either for the same reason.  So I guess I'm basically screwed, unless someone knows how to get around this whole frozen hard drive problem.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: steveo1978 on September 22, 2008, 11:41:00 AM
how did you manage to unlock the original hdd?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: mino206 on September 26, 2008, 01:32:00 PM
Thanks for this awesome tutorial. I just hotswapped my hdd and hacked my xbox.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: patrynofdoom on October 18, 2008, 10:53:00 PM
Not sure what i'm doing wrong here, I followed the instructions to the T as far as I know.

1) Downloaded XBOXHDM
2) Downloaded UXE Complete v 0.2.2
3) Ran both 71-fonts-install and nkpatcher-06-install from within the "support" folder
4) Copied the contents of uxe-c-replace to xboxhdm\linux\C
5) Copied the contents of place-on-e to xboxhdm\linux\E
Which left the following directory structures for the ISO

C/xboxdash.xbe
C/fonts/bert-generic.xtf
C/fonts/ernie.xtf
C/fonts/s.xtf
C/fonts/nk/devz3ro
C/fonts/nk/nkpatcher.xbe
C/fonts/nk/apps/detacher/default.xbe
C/fonts/nk/apps/isoripper/backup.cfg
C/fonts/nk/apps/isoripper/default.xbe
C/fonts/nk/apps/shadowcmaker/default.xbe
E/ROOT/default.xbe
E/ROOT/evox.ini
E/ROOT/skin/Project Mayhem II/loading.jpg
E/ROOT/skin/Project Mayhem II/menu.jpg
/Project Mayhem II/skin.ini
E/ROOT/trainers
eeprom
F
isolinux/fatxImage
isolinux/FREEBOOT.IMG
isolinux/initrd
isolinux/isolinux
isolinux/isolinux.boot
isolinux/isolinux.cfg
isolinux/lockImage
isolinux/memdisk
isolinux/message.txt
xbox/fatx.raw
xbox/head.raw
ABOUT_THIS_CD.txt
readme.txt
check

For a total disk size of 16,842,752 bytes

6) Burned the iso on memorex DVD+R at 1x
7) Disconnected IDE to DVD on xbox
8) Connected molex from pc to hd on xbox
9) DVD on pc set to slave on secondary IDE, DVD inserted
10) Turned on pc, turned on xbox which is connected to tv
11) Immediately after x opens on tv, never see MS logo on bottom, goes directly to error 12
12) Disconnected IDE from xbox to HD
13) Connected primary IDE from pc to xbox
14) Select option 2 from XBOXHDM, loading sequence ensues
15) At prompt, typed "xbrowser" and received following error

"looking for cd-rom in /dev/hda"
"looking for cd-rom in /dev/hdb" and so on until "/dev/hdt"
"linux cd not found"

16) At prompt typed "xboxhd" and received following error

tries to mount cd image on xboxhdm but fails, "no such device or address"

Same results even if I had the pc dvd set as slave on promary IDE

I've not once seen any error regarding the hard drive being locked

Please help, have been beating my brains out trying to figure out what i'm doing wrong.

Thanks


Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: obcd on October 19, 2008, 03:52:00 AM
Hi,

dvd on pc should be set to master on the secundary ide controller. So your dvd drive should not be connected to the same cable as the xbox harddisk.

your pc harddisk should not be connected to the setup.

I can't help you with the hotswap. Apparently, there are a couple of different methods. I have no idea how xboxhdm reacts when the disk is not unlocked. You could easily try it out if you simply connect the disk to the pc without hotswapping.

regards.
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: skullXbones1134 on April 07, 2009, 11:06:00 PM
I have read thru several posts and tutorials on the subject of softmodding, i have one question. My old Xbox that has been in a closet forever stopped working about 2 yrs. ago. it loads up to the Xbox screen with the big green "X" however the white microsoft letters never appear. One time, after a looooong time, it went to an error code 13, but never since. Can this still be modded? if so can someone point me in the right direction. Thanks much!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Harryt223 on March 13, 2010, 12:23:00 AM
okay.. I'm having problems with the hot swap.

I don't know if it's because my drive is not being unlocked or if it's corrupt?

the xboxhd can't seem to find the xbox-partition table.

It can easily find the drive, but when I run "xbrowser" at the end it says no xbox partition was found.

Now I also noticed when im booting up and after I press 1 for VGA. It shows a few disk read error or disk drive status error and then says things about resetting.

Again.. I don't know if this is due to the drive still being locked?

I tried everything so far.

Swapping from MS dash.. with a music file played and paused.
I've tried taking the cd/dvd drive IDE out and hoping the error would unlock the drive.

I just need some help. I spent all day trying to get past this damn step, and have NO idea why.

QUOTE(rebirth @ Aug 11 2007, 12:43 AM) View Post

i'm sorry but i'm jus a noob at this.

Here is my current situation/problem:
I attempted to hotswamp(not sure if i did it right or not, I've tried error 11, no dvd ide, gameplay, music, and the 8 sec count).  When I think I did it successfully I would type 1 to enter vga mode and it would give me picture 1. Other times it would read unknown patrition. I'm wondering if the HD is still locked in picure 1.
I bought my xbox the 2nd year it came out and played halo2  on it.

Also if it helps anyone to help me, my computer has 2 SATA HD connceted by I tried eliminating that as a factor for the problem by disconnecting the SATA connection on the mother board. My cd-rom drive is connected by a seperate ribbion than the one that IDE that is being used to connect to the xbox HD.

I think that's all the information I have about my situation, been trying this for a few months(a few days each month). I'm really hoping to softmod my xbox. Thanks in advance, and just thanks for taking to read my problem.

Picture 1:
IPB Image
Click to enlarge.
Thanks in advance smile.gif


That picture is the same errors I get in the beggining. but I eventually get to the command prompt.
Seems like xboxhd can't find a xbox partition table.. I don't know if it's because the drive isnt fully unlocked?
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: Harryt223 on March 13, 2010, 01:06:00 AM
Okay.. after trying all day.

My final try worked!!!

I tried the option with the dvd/cd IDE unhooked and matching the red light. I don't think it worked.

So once again I tried the music play and pausing.. and what ya know... it finally actually works!

I got unleash all installed. Now it's time to FTP and get XBMC on it.


BTW, for those getting the errors in the picture. I was right, it's because the drive is still locked so the partition cannot be read or written too. Therefore you will get the software not finding the xbox partition table.

Do it on how I did it. Instead of typing xbrowser, try xboxhd. It will TELL u if your HD is still locked or not. I tried the command for the hell of it and noticed it told me my drive was still locked. So I tried a few more times and it stated it was unlocked and i exited and tried the xbrowser command.. and BAM! It installs.


This post has been edited by Harryt223: Mar 13 2010, 09:19 AM
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: oasiz- on July 16, 2010, 12:08:00 PM
Yes, another user who has hotswapping problems!

So, I have almost tried any possible option so far (not including the one where you dance around it for five minutes and pour magical sand over the ribbon cables at a precise moment).

I have used three different systems so far (And one of them actually fried! I think the disk controller is broken but the system is way overdue anyway!)
Tried to force the xbox drive as a MASTER with a jumper.
Tried the ERROR12 method, playing music, gaming, you name it.

So far I think that the only problem is a solid method of unlocking it.
I get those read errors at bootup (As shown in that image, about close to 200 lines to prove me that one thing is wrong, geez). I do get the drive to show up on all systems normally during post or after that. I have tried to plug  in the drive during various phases between pre-bootup and during the linux distro splash screen (menu). Pretty much all options lead to the same conclusion.

In some cases I've had the xbox hdd deciding to go as hdb for some reason if plugging in on the fly (it reverts to hda after a reboot) This usually happens if I have a dummy drive during the initial bootup.

But seriously, I am running out of ideas. I have followed pretty much any option that I have found so far and none of them work. All lead to the same read errors and 'xboxhd' reporting a locked status. 'xbrowser' finds the hdd but of course no partition table.

iirc, the xbox is 1.6 (I found it on a flea market and I pretty much missed the whole xbox thing due to sticking with pc/older consoles) So my knowledge about boxes isn't that broad (altough I do know a ton about computers).
I do have one game tahat I can use to attempt at unlocking (Timesplitters 2)

Currently the xbox drive is forced as a master trough a jumper (Seems to be the best way to get it to be hda each time, + the system detecting it as PRI/MASTER)


Thanks for any possible advice, If you can help trough IM as well then I would appreciate it. ( [maxkyh @ hotmail DOT com] for MSN or catch me on irc as 'oasiz' on quakenet/ircnet/freenode)
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: ldotsfan on July 16, 2010, 08:13:00 PM
Try with xplorer360 instead: http://forums.xbox-s...&...t&p=4669512. My hdtool.exe actually reports the security status of the hdd from within Windows as well.

Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: oasiz- on July 18, 2010, 06:55:00 AM
QUOTE(ldotsfan @ Jul 17 2010, 05:13 AM) *

Try with xplorer360 instead: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s=&...t&p=4669512. My hdtool.exe actually reports the security status of the hdd from within Windows as well.


THIS worked!

Thousand thankyous ldotsfan, you saved my day!

What I did was simply just play the music like I always did and hotswap this into a usb hdd casing while inside windows 7 x64 (and then power it up), I told xplorer360 to check the drives and it instantly found partitions 0 1 2 3 and 4.
Right now I am backing up the whole drive.
For some reason there was a gta3.img on one partition, I guess the previous owner had his fingers on this one smile.gif

So, if you have a usb hdd casing, follow this post if you have some mysterious problems with the linux-boot method like I had.

And a simple guide for USB hdd case swap, Using a regular cheap USB hdd casing:

1) Open the HDD casing, make sure that it supports the PATA/IDE connector !
    (some even have both, like in my case I had pata/sata and usb+ethernet output).
    NOTE: I Had to swap the data cable to a longer one since the stock cable was around 10cm.

2) Power up your computer and start xplorer360.

3) Do the unlocking ritual on the xbox with any method of your choice, I choose to use audio copy/play and
    it worked from the first try.

4) Unplug the data cable after you are sure that the hdd should now be unlocked
    (play audio for 10 seconds for example and then pause).

5) Plug it into the usb casing, power it up and windows should detect it.

6) In your computer, focus on Xplorer360 window and choose: [Drive] -> [Open] -> [Harddrive or Memcard].

Just wait a few seconds and it should detect the partitions and you are good to go!
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: ldotsfan on July 25, 2010, 05:15:00 PM
I came up with Error 5 hotswapping a while back but have never seen the true extent of its applications nor document the process in this hotswapping thread. Error 5 hotswapping uses the console error 5 condition to ready an external hdd - the exact mechanism of how this works is unknown. Besides softmod hdd upgrades, a recent event alerted me to the fact that this is in fact a general recovery method if you keep your stock 8/10Gb locked softmod hdd around. With this technique, you can generally recover from softmod errors on your own upgraded hdd or aother console's hdd (provided you have the eeprom.bin or hdd key) without the need of a PC.

Equipment needed:
1. An external power source for the target hdd T . A molex splitter will not work. An USB-IDE enclosure for example.
2. Any UnleashX boot disc. I'll label this lxhdm for easy identification.
3. I'll label console with working softmodded hdd S.

Here's the general process:
QUOTE

1. Eject dvd tray and insert lxhdm dvd. Power off.
2. Connect hdd IDE cable to T's hdd in S's. Supply power to T's hdd.
3. Power on xbox. You will get an error 5 which is expected.
4. Unplug hdd IDE cable but keep external power to T's hdd (in S's)
5. power off xbox and connect hdd IDE cable back to S's hdd.
6. power on and lxhdm dvd will load.
7. when unleashX is loaded, unplug hdd IDE cable from S's hdd and plug it to T's hdd.
8. Use UnleashX file manager , navigate to D drive and launch default.xbe.
9. When UnleashX is relaunched, you have ftp access and the file manager for recovery. Console now 'sees' the T's hdd.


Optional steps is to prep the disc with a working set of softmod files and ConfigMagic for hdd locking/unlocking.

I like the idea that we are using an error condition of the xbox for our objectives of general hdd recovery  jester.gif
Title: The Art Of Hotswapping
Post by: stilts07 on August 23, 2012, 02:09:00 AM
Well said.