Post by: DaddyJ on August 25, 2004, 08:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (ArcticWolf @ Aug 25 2004, 08:56 PM) |
| When UDE2 is installed on Xbox 1.6, will *every* game run without problems? Has anyone encountered a game that won't run? |
i believe there are a few games in question, but they are far and few between,
if you ever notice that games arnt running, that were running, try deleting your "cache" folder.
Post by: Trevante on August 25, 2004, 08:54:00 PM
To this day, i still haven't gotten Metal Slug 3 to run on my Xbox HDD or from disc. All my other games run fine, but for some reason Metal Slug 3 doesn't.
I'm using FBL and the pblmetoo bios (Evox M8 with IGR and LBA48 (.06))
I'd say you don't really have to worry about too many games not working.
Post by: harrypotter333 on August 26, 2004, 12:39:00 AM
| QUOTE (Trevante @ Aug 26 2004, 04:57 AM) |
| I have UDE2 on my 1.6. When I used my stock HDD, everything ran without problems. When I put in an old 20GB HDD (formatted and locked with XboxHDM 1.9), Metal Slug 3 would no longer run on my HDD, or on disc. I cleared my caches (all 4 of them), deleted my saves, and it still didn't work. I read around and saw that when some E drives are formatted with XboxHDM, it prevents them from working, so I decided I need to reformat my E drive. I made an evox boot disc with the code to format E only, and for some reason, it wouldn't format my E drive. So I then tried with unleashX, and the same thing happened; it wouldn't format my E drive. To this day, i still haven't gotten Metal Slug 3 to run on my Xbox HDD or from disc. All my other games run fine, but for some reason Metal Slug 3 doesn't. I'm using FBL and the pblmetoo bios (Evox M8 with IGR and LBA48 (.06)) I'd say you don't really have to worry about too many games not working. |
Have you tried formating your E drive with Slayers?
Post by: Atreyu on August 26, 2004, 04:39:00 AM
i'd like to know if someone that has access to these games could try them out on a 1.6 machine running M8.
in regards to formating your drives, try this:
after you have UDE2 all installed and working, boot into evox and backup your entire C: and E: then format ALL your drives thru the ftp commands. ie Formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1 then formatdrive with the provided key (search the forums for more info on that. and once you have formated all 6 partitions reload your C: and E:
MAKE SURE YOU DON'T REBOOT IN BETWEEN!
Post by: krayzie on August 26, 2004, 04:54:00 AM
Post by: total_ass on August 26, 2004, 04:54:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on August 26, 2004, 04:57:00 AM
Crimson Skies and Enter the matrix. I never heard of other games related to this problems.
Post by: total_ass on August 26, 2004, 05:08:00 AM
also, what if MS starts making all of their games incompatible with BFM bioses
then soft-modding gamers will be screwed.
Post by: krayzie on August 26, 2004, 05:15:00 AM
Also it's not like M$ is intentionally creating games that don't work with bfm bioses. And if they ever find a way how to do that I'm sure there would follow a fix soon to.
Post by: YoshiKool on August 26, 2004, 07:41:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on August 26, 2004, 07:41:00 AM
Post by: total_ass on August 26, 2004, 07:48:00 AM
Post by: triggernum5 on August 26, 2004, 08:02:00 AM
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| Running the old evox as an app works fine however to fix the CS problem. |
I can confirm this. Using PBL-Lite and 4981.67 bfm
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Title: Is Ude2 On Xbox 1.6 Perfect ?
Post by: krayzie on August 26, 2004, 08:57:00 AM
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nobody knows. It seems the old dash changes the memory layout or something.
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Title: Is Ude2 On Xbox 1.6 Perfect ?
Post by: triggernum5 on August 26, 2004, 09:10:00 AM
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Thats what I was led to believe about the memory.. I ran it directly through XSelector as well without a problem, and its memory usage is extremely small like evox.
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Title: Is Ude2 On Xbox 1.6 Perfect ?
Post by: mjar81 on August 26, 2004, 09:42:00 AM
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Title: Is Ude2 On Xbox 1.6 Perfect ?
Post by: total_ass on August 26, 2004, 09:55:00 AM
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Post by: krayzie on August 26, 2004, 08:57:00 AM
Post by: triggernum5 on August 26, 2004, 09:10:00 AM
Post by: mjar81 on August 26, 2004, 09:42:00 AM
Post by: total_ass on August 26, 2004, 09:55:00 AM
| QUOTE (mjar81 @ Aug 26 2004, 04:45 PM) |
| total_ass... you're a total ass! |
????
Post by: Atreyu on August 26, 2004, 11:23:00 AM
if you're running NKpatcher, does it matter what version of EVOX you are running? or will it work with all games?
Hanlong id very much like to hear about your dual nkpatcher setup.
Post by: krayzie on August 26, 2004, 11:29:00 AM
Post by: total_ass on August 26, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
Post by: anjilslaire on August 26, 2004, 12:12:00 PM
Seems easier to me.
Post by: krayzie on August 26, 2004, 12:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (total_ass @ Aug 26 2004, 07:41 PM) |
| i stand by my statement from earlier. we need the best kick ass xbox programmer around to find a permanent way to get BFM bioses working with ALL games, no workarounds or alternatives. its about time its fixed for good. |
I don't wanna make promises but a solution might be very near.
@anjilslaire:
Yeah and if you let the old evox autolaunch games you don't even need to take an extra step.
Post by: krayzie on August 26, 2004, 12:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (Atreyu @ Aug 26 2004, 08:24 PM) |
| this is all well and good for Crimson Skies, but what about the other games? Conflict desert storm 2 & Enter the Matrix? and games that might have future problems? im liking this alternate nkpatcher boot method |
But if you have a hd larger than 128 gb and you switch between pbl with a lba 48 supporting bios and the nkpatcher that doesn't data might get corupted.
Post by: hanlong on August 26, 2004, 12:37:00 PM
if i do that i can use crimson skies and igr by booting pbl-metoo then evox then old evox then crimson skies, but that doesn't mean i still need to get rid of the nkpatcher mode by pressing ejecti just have an option to use nkpatcher if i need it and it might come useful still later, never know when some game is incompatible with pbl, there are games that won't even work with old evox+pbl i think, the old evox is just a fix for crimson skies i think (correct me if im wrong)
yeh there's a lot of choices to get all this crap to work
but im pretty sure someone will get it all working in one simple solution
Post by: Atreyu on August 26, 2004, 12:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (anjilslaire @ Aug 26 2004, 08:34 PM) |
| Aren't those games' issues with longfilnames, not pbl? I don't have them, so I don't know. It's all preference, anyway Couldn't people auto-boot nkpatcher, and then load pbl as an app, if they really wanted a choice anyways? |
Enter the Matrix does have an issue with long files names, but this can be overcome with a patch that renames the files to smaller names and then patching the default.xbe to support them, but even after this is done, there is still a conflict with PBL with this game.
Conflict Desert Storm 2 doesn't have any long file name issues, it just won't run unless you're running the m7 bios.. Or i guessing the nkpatcher.
krayzie: that is a big bummer about the larger hdd thing.. i didn't relise that nkpatcher didn't supprt 137+ hdd's.. would a possible future version of nkpatcher be able to support lba? or are we hitting another dead end here?
Post by: krayzie on August 26, 2004, 12:55:00 PM
Post by: total_ass on August 26, 2004, 01:50:00 PM
| QUOTE (krayzie @ Aug 26 2004, 07:58 PM) |
| I know of a possible solution for crimson skies, and enter the matrix (not the problem with the filenames but the bios problem) Never heard about a conflict desert storm problem I don't have that game so I couldn't test that. You guys will have to be patient. |
you know krayzie, if you can solve this problem, then you will go down on my list of awesome exploiters.
Post by: krayzie on August 26, 2004, 02:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (total_ass @ Aug 26 2004, 09:53 PM) |
| you know krayzie, if you can solve this problem, then you will go down on my list of awesome exploiters. |
Well I didn't say I would solve the problem. All credit goes to Rmenhal for this. First test results look extremely promising though.
Post by: triggernum5 on August 26, 2004, 02:12:00 PM
Post by: Trevante on August 26, 2004, 05:30:00 PM
Post by: Atreyu on August 27, 2004, 10:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (krayzie @ Aug 26 2004, 10:06 PM) |
| Well I didn't say I would solve the problem. All credit goes to Rmenhal for this. First test results look extremely promising though. |
Ooooooo sounds exciting!!
What are you hiding!
gimme gimme!
hehe
Post by: total_ass on August 27, 2004, 11:26:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on September 01, 2004, 10:18:00 AM
Post by: Atreyu on September 01, 2004, 10:52:00 AM
but.. crazie can we get this bios to point to d:\dashboard\default.xbe so it works nicely with UDE1/2 ?
Post by: krayzie on September 01, 2004, 11:00:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on September 01, 2004, 11:57:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on September 01, 2004, 12:02:00 PM
Post by: Angerwound on September 01, 2004, 12:43:00 PM
Post by: Angerwound on September 01, 2004, 12:46:00 PM
Post by: Angerwound on September 01, 2004, 01:00:00 PM
Post by: krayzie on September 01, 2004, 01:05:00 PM
Post by: anjilslaire on September 01, 2004, 01:31:00 PM
Post by: krayzie on September 01, 2004, 01:45:00 PM
Post by: ember on September 01, 2004, 07:40:00 PM
and now only M8 BFM bios that works flawlessly with all games.
what should 1.0-1.5 endusers do to make their xbox works with all games?
Post by: DaddyJ on September 01, 2004, 07:46:00 PM
| QUOTE (ember @ Sep 1 2004, 09:43 PM) |
| i read somewhere in this forum that 1.0-1.5 endusers should avoid using M8 BFM bios because it will damage xbox hardware (don't know which one) in a long term. and now only M8 BFM bios that works flawlessly with all games. what should 1.0-1.5 endusers do to make their xbox works with all games? |
Could you post the link of where you read this. I run the hacked m8 bfm, and have had no problems.
Post by: DaddyJ on September 01, 2004, 07:49:00 PM
Post by: DaddyJ on September 01, 2004, 08:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (ember @ Sep 1 2004, 10:25 PM) |
| i spent about half an hour to look for the link but i only found this http://forums.xbox-s...8519&hl=m8 bios but that's not the link what i talked about. maybe someone can clear it up why there's no different on using M8 BFM version such in M8 not BFM version?? |
for one , you need a modchip to use the non-bfm m8 bios, or any non-bfm bios for that matter.
BFM = Boot From Media
Post by: DaddyJ on September 01, 2004, 08:32:00 PM
| QUOTE (ember @ Sep 1 2004, 10:31 PM) |
| thank u, what i mean is, M8 non BFM bios have EVOX M8 and EVOX M8_16 while M8 BFM bios doesnot. can you explain this? |
sure.
the M8 is for v1.0-v1.5
the M8_16 is for v1.6
the BFM version works with all versions.
Post by: rmenhal on September 03, 2004, 02:48:00 AM
Post by: total_ass on September 03, 2004, 11:36:00 AM
Post by: krayzie on September 03, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (total_ass @ Sep 3 2004, 07:39 PM) |
| i 've just caught up with this topic and i am amazed that there is a flawless BFM bios now working. this is not version specific correct? and it has virtually the same features as X2? |
yeah except for the xbox live blocking
Post by: total_ass on September 03, 2004, 11:44:00 AM
Post by: hanlong on September 03, 2004, 01:28:00 PM
this new bios kicks ass
i haven't found nor heard about one non-working game yet so i guess "Is UDE2 on XBox 1.6 Perfect?" the answer is now yes with this new M8 bios
Post by: total_ass on September 03, 2004, 02:01:00 PM
Post by: total_ass on September 04, 2004, 11:26:00 AM
Post by: DaddyJ on September 04, 2004, 12:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (total_ass @ Sep 4 2004, 01:29 PM) |
| hey guys can someone just confirm for me that i can just rename the bios to xboxrom.bin and put it in e:\biosloader for the ltools package and it works? i know i have to set up boot process maually. |
yes, it dont matter what the bios is called, it only matter what the boot.cfg looks for
Post by: total_ass on September 04, 2004, 01:26:00 PM
while i was at it i set up secondary and thirdary (?) dashboards lol. so if i ever screw up my primary im covered.
Post by: hanlong on September 04, 2004, 05:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (KAC @ Sep 4 2004, 04:28 PM) |
| Hey fellaz..... I gave this new metoo-m8pack with M8_LBA48_IGR_Q-06-BFM.bin a try. After doing it. Conflict Desert Storm 2 booted fine but I still can not get Crimson Skies to load. It starts up and freezes at the load screen. Here is what I did: I already had ltools UDE2 installed via 007. I next FTP'd to my E:\BiosLD\ directory the 3 files (boot.cfg, default.xbe, M8_LBA48_IGR_Q-06-BFM.bin) from the "metoo-m8pack-beta1.zip" file and rebooted. Crimson skies still froze at start up. Did I perhaps miss a step  Also, pardon the nOOb question but what is the "Eject fix"? |
eject fix lets you press eject without your xbox rebooting.
without it your xbox will reboot if you press the eject button.
what you mean freezing at loading screen? do you actually see one? because if you weren't using this new bios you would just see black screen when you try to run crimson skies, while using this new bios everything SHOULD work.
if you can't see anything then im not sure if you copied the bios correctly.
if you could see something but it just freezes then i think you should just clear ur cache/x/y/z and maybe clear your crimson skies save folder, and it should work. *shrug*
Post by: KAC on September 04, 2004, 06:40:00 PM
I read what you said then tried a couple of things.
1. I deleted Crismons Skies from the 1.6 box. I have Crimson Skies on a v1.0 box that runs fine so I re-transferred it from the 1.0 xbox to the 1.6 xbox via Avaluanch.
2. Deleted all the files in the e:/cache folder, x, y, and z drives.
3. Reset the menu cache in MXM.
4. Rebooted the 1.6 box
Tried to launch Crimsons Skies, box froze at the end of the MXM load screen and Crimson never started at all. I had to do a hard reset to reboot.
Next, I launched at LEAST 10 other games to see if they worked, they all launched fine including Conflict Desert Storm 2. Unfortunately, I do not have Enter the Matrix or I would have tested that one too.
Am I missing anything else?
Post by: krayzie on September 05, 2004, 12:01:00 AM
| QUOTE (KAC @ Sep 5 2004, 01:28 AM) |
| I gave this new metoo-m8pack with M8_LBA48_IGR_Q-06- from the "metoo-m8pack-beta1.zip" file and rebooted. |
This is not the name of the new package. It's called metoo-m8pack-v1.2
Post by: total_ass on September 05, 2004, 03:45:00 AM
. are future games that suffer from BFM bioses likely to be fixed by this bios?
Post by: krayzie on September 05, 2004, 03:58:00 AM
Post by: total_ass on September 05, 2004, 11:41:00 AM
Post by: total_ass on September 05, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
Post by: KAC on September 05, 2004, 01:46:00 PM
metoo-m8pack-v1.2.zip
Post by: ceril on September 05, 2004, 03:12:00 PM
btw are all the files on the y drive needed? i cleared the cache out of the other drives but mvp baseball still wont boot past the roster curreant as of 01-10-2004 screen. i dont know why, it use to work