Post by: mkjones on August 05, 2004, 02:43:00 AM
In the past, as you may have seen I have been on the cuff of xbox-exploitation and developed packages around the "older" dashboard exploits.
However, when UDE started to rear its head I had so much "other" crap going on I never got round to using it, my packages still use the MA fonts and the Audio hack, and are therefore well out of date
My PMs went crazy for a while with cries of "when are you updating your package" and "how can I use UDE with your package" etc
My answer was just "when I get round to it" and luckely ltools came around and gave noobish users (or just plain lazy ones
) another option, kudos to ldots on that one 
One of my main problems was I had loaned MA and my memory card to my Dad (yes my dad softmods
) so I couldnt RISK messing up my system without them 
Anyway, the point of this mail is simple. I have done it, I got MA back, I got the UDE fonts and I got a mates xbox
Hes a proper noob so I set it up simply for him, UDE boots PBL that then boots tHc lite, so at least the dash will look familure
it was in a word easy and to be honest a lot easier than I thought! So, now ive "done" his xbox, its time to do mine
which got me thinking, while im at it should I bother updating my package to a UDE varient? I mean, ldots work does pretty much what mine used to, but there are some features such as Dash-Switching etc that mine used to have the people may want..
So, if anyone would like to see an update, post, I know from some of my PMs there is a small demand anyway
if not, il always be here to support the scene as usual
Post by: Australian Rat on August 05, 2004, 02:51:00 AM
You could perhaps instead of updating your package with UDE fonts (because that would just make the Audio exploit pointless), work on creating a package that, via a gamesave can revert a box back to its stock bootup state, for easy live usage.
This is the only thing I feel is missing at the moment with UDE, an easy way (possibly via a gamesave as one option) of switching between UDE bootup and stock bootup. Would make live usage a hell of a lot easier.
But just a suggestion.
Post by: ldots on August 05, 2004, 02:56:00 AM
@ Australian Rat
ltools does let you revert the xbox to an Live safe state. Just go to the ltools menu and choose "UDE uninstall". Dont need a game save to do this. Just boot with the eject button to reach the ltools menu.
When you are done playing on live you run the game save to reach the ltools menu again and choose "UDE install". The re-install is aware of previous installations so if you custemized your dashboard or Bios loader/pathcer you can re-use these settings.
It too has limited Dashboard switching. Only between Evox and MXM though
It's rather limited what you can fit on a 8 MB memcard.
Post by: mkjones on August 05, 2004, 03:08:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Now aren't you glad you did that finally? |
HELL YES!
made me wonder why the hell I had been sat with my thumb up my arse for so long | QUOTE |
| You could perhaps instead of updating your package with UDE fonts (because that would just make the Audio exploit pointless), work on creating a package that, via a gamesave can revert a box back to its stock bootup state, for easy live usage. |
Yes, of course I would remove all traces of the Audio hack from my package
the gamesave hack/revert is a good idea to switch USE "off" for live dash useage, obviulsy this is the only way at the moment other than EEE that is, however its been patched in the most recent dash update 
Its still an "idea" i suppose, and to be honest one of the things holding be back from ude was the fact that scripting an option to "re-virginize" your xbox would be a pain in the arse
| QUOTE |
| Congrats mkjones. |
Thanks man
you know how it is, things get in the way such as "Life" and you know, for a while I actually used my xbox to "Play Games" 
| QUOTE |
| ltools does let you revert the xbox to an Live safe state. Just go to the ltools menu and choose "UDE uninstall". Dont need a game save to do this. Just boot with the eject button to reach the ltools menu. |
Yeh, i remember me and you havin a PM chat about this
its the only way to do it at the moment i just think "uninstall" is a little bit of a strong word... | QUOTE |
| It's rather limited what you can fit on a 8 MB memcard. |
Yeh, tell me about it
you really are only allowed about 5-6mb in the end 
Post by: adil786 on August 05, 2004, 03:12:00 AM
| QUOTE (mkjones @ Aug 5 2004, 10:46 AM) |
| As you all may or may not know my delvings into the world of UDE have been somewhat delayed In the past, as you may have seen I have been on the cuff of xbox-exploitation and developed packages around the "older" dashboard exploits. However, when UDE started to rear its head I had so much "other" crap going on I never got round to using it, my packages still use the MA fonts and the Audio hack, and are therefore well out of date My PMs went crazy for a while with cries of "when are you updating your package" and "how can I use UDE with your package" etc My answer was just "when I get round to it" and luckely ltools came around and gave noobish users (or just plain lazy ones ) another option, kudos to ldots on that one One of my main problems was I had loaned MA and my memory card to my Dad (yes my dad softmods ) so I couldnt RISK messing up my system without them Anyway, the point of this mail is simple. I have done it, I got MA back, I got the UDE fonts and I got a mates xbox Hes a proper noob so I set it up simply for him, UDE boots PBL that then boots tHc lite, so at least the dash will look familure it was in a word easy and to be honest a lot easier than I thought! So, now ive "done" his xbox, its time to do mine which got me thinking, while im at it should I bother updating my package to a UDE varient? I mean, ldots work does pretty much what mine used to, but there are some features such as Dash-Switching etc that mine used to have the people may want.. So, if anyone would like to see an update, post, I know from some of my PMs there is a small demand anyway if not, il always be here to support the scene as usual |
wooohooo ive been telling you for ages lol,
congrats mkjones, i couldnt beleive this smart a guy could be without ude for all this time lol.
enjoy, and if its not too much bother then just make one, competition is always good (ldots + mkjones) but then again ldots pawns so i think he'll always win... only j/k
Post by: mkjones on August 05, 2004, 03:22:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| wooohooo ive been telling you for ages lol, |
True man
you even raved about it over at DCEmu It was one of those things
I couldnt do it cos I didnt have my gamesave hack in case it went wrong... so that kinda left me with no options..| QUOTE |
| but then again ldots pawns so i think he'll always win... only j/k |
its true man the dude singed up a year after me and his postcount is over mine 
he is the penguin I dont know how he finds the time
Post by: ldots on August 05, 2004, 03:32:00 AM
Postcounts mean nothing to me. Everybody can gain an impressive post count by posting indifferent messages (like this one
). Some of the main contributers to this scene post very infrequently. It's the quality that counts! An estimate is that you will find 80% of my posts in the xboxhdm and memcard installer. Supporting these things is time-consuming.
Post by: total_ass on August 05, 2004, 03:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (ldots @ Aug 5 2004, 09:59 AM) |
| It too has limited Dashboard switching. Only between Evox and MXM though It's rather limited what you can fit on a 8 MB memcard. |
ldots you do know that to change the dash you can just put whatever dashboard of your choice in e:\dashboard? you did know that didn't you?
Post by: ldots on August 05, 2004, 03:50:00 AM
Post by: mkjones on August 05, 2004, 03:50:00 AM
| QUOTE (total_ass @ Aug 5 2004, 11:45 AM) |
| ldots you do know that to change the dash you can just put whatever dashboard of your choice in e:\dashboard? you did know that didn't you? |
For the noobs without FTP knowlege or even a PC this would be dificult
this is why i introduced a simpler way
Post by: ldots on August 05, 2004, 03:52:00 AM
| QUOTE (mkjones @ Aug 5 2004, 11:53 AM) |
| For the noobs without FTP knowlege or even a PC this would be dificult this is why i introduced a simpler way |
Which is what?
How many dashboards could you squeeze into your package?
Post by: total_ass on August 05, 2004, 03:57:00 AM
hey ldots i got another idea
, maybe you could make a 'ude memcard installer/uninstaller - dashboard expansion package' where its an installer triggered by a gamesave exploit, (completely separate from the ude installer) that changes the default dash for your package. you could just cram it full with 8 meg worth of dashes then everyone would be happy.
Post by: ldots on August 05, 2004, 04:21:00 AM
I dont think I will offer this. If people want another dash and dont have ftp access they can burn the dash to a CD-RW/DVD and transfer it to E:\Dashboard using the included BoxPlorer.
Post by: mkjones on August 05, 2004, 04:48:00 AM
| QUOTE (ldots @ Aug 5 2004, 11:55 AM) |
| Which is what? How many dashboards could you squeeze into your package? |
I had 3 as well as the "MyDash" option, MXM, Evox and UX, actually UX was on twice
as i used a modded version as the configmanager as well However I could fit Ava onto it now as the latest build is only around 2mb
before it was 5mb! thats why i missed it out...Post by: pvtschlag on August 05, 2004, 04:58:00 AM
so i would greatly apreciate it if you made a package with UDE
Post by: adil786 on August 05, 2004, 05:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (mkjones @ Aug 5 2004, 11:25 AM) |
| True man you even raved about it over at DCEmu It was one of those things I couldnt do it cos I didnt have my gamesave hack in case it went wrong... so that kinda left me with no options.. its true man the dude singed up a year after me and his postcount is over mine he is the penguin I dont know how he finds the time |
whats DCEmu???
Post by: mkjones on August 05, 2004, 08:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (adil786 @ Aug 5 2004, 01:46 PM) |
| whats DCEmu??? |
ops looks like im thinkin of someone else in the DCEmulation forum!Why doesnt everyone have the same username eh?
Post by: PedrosPad on August 05, 2004, 09:45:00 AM
| QUOTE (mkjones @ Aug 5 2004, 04:59 PM) |
| Why doesnt everyone have the same username eh? |
They will have if M$ get their way - re: M$ Passport