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Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: phrozenfeonix on July 29, 2004, 01:25:00 AM
just wondering if it is possible, i believe it'd be best with PBL?, to turn on my xbox, then get a menu with my choice of which bios to boot from?
is it possible to set up a program that'll boot either an xbox game, in default, unhacked format, loading completely through MS style, and still have the box work on xbox live, then if there's no cd it gives me a choice of booting the msbios to bring me to an msdash, or to bring me to evox, and still use a stock hdd, so that if ms decides to implement any sort of hdd check/ban, then i'd still be fine for halo 2?

i have 2 xboxes, one will be my stock(hehe),  halo 2 xbox live box, with a sammy, and the other my hacked box, with a busted  sad.gif philips drive, that way i can backup games if i need to, but still be able to use the box for live...

Boot sequence
- - - -
Checks for game cd
- on success, boot to game in a default ms environment
- on failure, options
 1. Boot legit ms environment
 2. Boot evox

just wondering if there's anything like this already... thx for your time
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: Tsjibbe on July 29, 2004, 02:36:00 AM
Doesn't Xbox Live check the xboxdash.xbe?

If they don't, which files do they check?

Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: brianforever on July 29, 2004, 02:52:00 AM
QUOTE (Tsjibbe @ Jul 29 2004, 10:39 AM)
Doesn't Xbox Live check the xboxdash.xbe?

If they don't, which files do they check?

Why Should it ?

The retail Game Boots up the legit default.xbe on the dvdrom.

every other xbes are bypassed.
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: adil786 on July 29, 2004, 03:36:00 AM
QUOTE (Tsjibbe @ Jul 29 2004, 10:39 AM)
Doesn't Xbox Live check the xboxdash.xbe?

If they don't, which files do they check?

no,

only the xbe's on the dvd
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: brianforever on July 29, 2004, 04:09:00 AM
QUOTE (Tsjibbe @ Jul 29 2004, 11:40 AM)
It doesn't load the xboxdash.xbe at first. But when you go to xbl it will check if you have the right dash installed. Now it can update your xboxdash.xbe because you don't have the right xboxdash.xbe for the required xbl dashboard.

Or am i completely wrong? Does it check other files, to verify you have the right dash?

Ur not completely wrong smile.gif

It does chk for other XBEs on the Retail DVD Game like download.xbe,update.xbe, dashupdate.xbe, etc...

apparently no xbes are chked on the HDD.

So the Retail Disc kinda works as a Boot Disc smile.gif
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: Tsjibbe on July 29, 2004, 04:59:00 AM
If it doesn't check any files on the hdd, why you have to update your dash then?

Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: brianforever on July 29, 2004, 05:18:00 AM
Its an Auto feature on XBL , so whenever a New Dashboard Upgrade come along XBL will update it Automatically

& So updating ur Dashboard & Registering/Recovering ur Gamertag Online, will help to authenticate & verify all ur MS signed files to ur XBL a/c.

& updating your dash does not do anything to ur UDE/UDE2 as its not a Dashboard exploit.

So theres ur answer smile.gif
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: Tsjibbe on July 29, 2004, 05:25:00 AM
QUOTE (brianforever @ Jul 29 2004, 01:21 PM)
& updating your dash does not do anything to ur UDE/UDE2 as its not a Dashboard exploit.

The ultimate DASHBOARD exploit (UDE) is not a dashboard exploit? Is that what you're saying?  ohmy.gif
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: brianforever on July 29, 2004, 05:31:00 AM
heheh yeah ironic isnt it smile.gif

Its actually a XBE Expolit

So it shud be rename XBEE instead of UDE smile.gif
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: Tsjibbe on July 29, 2004, 05:47:00 AM
I thought it was a font exploit

[edit]nvm, i will use my live with ude now. I hope your right.
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: YoshiKool on July 29, 2004, 05:54:00 AM
Brian, if you aren't using the latest dash and then MS updates it - they will overwrite your xboxdash.xbe with the updated one and your exploit will be gone until you reinstall it.. probably hang on bootup with the exploited fonts too
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: YoshiKool on July 29, 2004, 05:58:00 AM
Just make sure if any new dash updates are released that you have a gamesave at the ready...
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: PedrosPad on July 29, 2004, 06:19:00 AM
QUOTE (Tsjibbe @ Jul 29 2004, 01:28 PM)
The ultimate DASHBOARD exploit (UDE) is not a dashboard exploit? Is that what you're saying?  ohmy.gif
QUOTE (brianforever @ Jul 29 2004, 01:34 PM)
heheh yeah ironic isnt it smile.gif

Its actually a XBE Expolit

So it shud be rename XBEE instead of UDE smile.gif

At least someone gets it. biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
(Irony - has that been exported from England yet?)
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: total_ass on July 29, 2004, 06:44:00 AM
why would updating the MS dash stop the exploit, that's something i've never understood, i didn't think that the ude uses xboxdash.xbe
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: adil786 on July 29, 2004, 08:07:00 AM
QUOTE (total_ass @ Jul 29 2004, 02:47 PM)
why would updating the MS dash stop the exploit, that's something i've never understood, i didn't think that the ude uses xboxdash.xbe

it doesnt, but when m$ update, they update any exploited files!, basically to stop exploits from working!
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: Tsjibbe on July 29, 2004, 08:14:00 AM
They replace the xboxdash.xbe sometimes/everytime (?) with an update.

Your exploited update.xbe renamed to xboxdash.xbe will be overwritten by this.
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: adil786 on July 29, 2004, 08:27:00 AM
QUOTE (brianforever @ Jul 29 2004, 04:16 PM)
exactly adil wink.gif

Thats where the Dual boot to Mini-linux comes in smile.gif

But they havent done anything that extreme yet, not on my xbox they didnt wink.gif

so if they do an update to combat ude, will we still be able to load minilinux?, i dont think we can...
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: total_ass on July 29, 2004, 10:19:00 AM
what happens then once you lose the ude, does the xbox just boot normally to the ms dash, or is it fucked?
Title: Dual Booting Bioses?
Post by: chimpanzee on July 29, 2004, 10:30:00 AM
QUOTE (brianforever @ Jul 29 2004, 04:33 PM)
Well I never thought of that part smile.gif

Becos it never came to this yet smile.gif

But I never had a Problem with Booting up the xbox with a GameSave Exploit yet on any thing that MS throws at Me

So I guess thats the Sure Fire Solution Atm smile.gif

Not if the game region is changed.

But that should be fine. You have the MechAssault NTSC-J, I have the MechAssault NTSC/PAL. We can just swap the game when needed  wink.gif

In fact, giving that these 8G/10G drive is now costing like peanuts(10 US a pop on ebay), it may be cheaper just bid one and clone an existing one as backup. So if MS does anything bad, just swap in the working one and use my little hotswap DVD tricks to fix it. This may be even cheaper than getting a game :-)