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Title: Warranty
Post by: SargeZT on July 17, 2004, 01:29:00 AM
Just a quick question.  This does not apply to me personally, as I have opened my XBox  too many times to count.  However, has anyone here who has done a pure softmod tried to redeem their warranty?
Title: Warranty
Post by: adil786 on July 17, 2004, 02:16:00 AM
QUOTE (SargeZT @ Jul 17 2004, 10:29 AM)
Just a quick question.  This does not apply to me personally, as I have opened my XBox  too many times to count.  However, has anyone here who has done a pure softmod tried to redeem their warranty?

when u have a softmod, you dont have a warranty, but if you delete all the softmod files to bring back to virgin state, then you have a warranty.
Title: Warranty
Post by: SargeZT on July 17, 2004, 02:40:00 AM
From what I can gather, there is no clear difference in the warranty between software and hardware modifcation.  The clause dealing with exceptions, in section 3, states that any Tampering or Modification voids the warranty.  So, technically, even restoring it to a virgin state voids the warranty.  

However, as much appreciated as the post was, my original question remains unanswered.  Has anyone tried redeeming their warranty, and been denied because of software modification?
Title: Warranty
Post by: krayzie on July 17, 2004, 02:47:00 AM
it's true that any modification voids the waranty so basically any of us softmodders don't have waranty anymore. The thing about softmods however is that you sometimes can restore what you have changed on the xbox and don't leave any traces so nobody would know the waranty was broken one time.
Title: Warranty
Post by: adil786 on July 17, 2004, 02:55:00 AM
QUOTE (krayzie @ Jul 17 2004, 11:47 AM)
it's true that any modification voids the waranty so basically any of us softmodders don't have waranty anymore. The thing about softmods however is that you sometimes can restore what you have changed on the xbox and don't leave any traces so nobody would know the waranty was broken one time.

correct,

but i belive any hd leave traces, even formateed. so if they wanted to, they could probally find some files.

Title: Warranty
Post by: bucko on July 17, 2004, 10:48:00 AM
doesn't the warrenty only last like 3 months anywa?
Title: Warranty
Post by: krayzie on July 17, 2004, 10:54:00 AM
Well it lasts a year here.
Title: Warranty
Post by: adil786 on July 17, 2004, 12:15:00 PM
QUOTE (krayzie @ Jul 17 2004, 07:54 PM)
Well it lasts a year here.

always a year.
Title: Warranty
Post by: RiceCake on July 17, 2004, 02:29:00 PM
I bought a 3 year extended warranty for $50...

Am I stupid? Hell no! So far I've gone through 4 XBox'es (First the hard drive crashed, next two had bad Thompson DVD's so I returned them, fourth was a refurbished unit that was already bad).

First three retailed at $306.16 CAD each, so $918.48 there, plus $263.92 for the fourth after the price was discounted...

If it wasn't for buying that warranty I would've spent over $1182.40 on the new Xbox'es. Lol, not my problem, its FutureShop's now.
Title: Warranty
Post by: adil786 on July 17, 2004, 03:15:00 PM
QUOTE (RiceCake @ Jul 17 2004, 11:29 PM)
I bought a 3 year extended warranty for $50...

Am I stupid? Hell no! So far I've gone through 4 XBox'es (First the hard drive crashed, next two had bad Thompson DVD's so I returned them, fourth was a refurbished unit that was already bad).

First three retailed at $306.16 CAD each, so $918.48 there, plus $263.92 for the fourth after the price was discounted...

If it wasn't for buying that warranty I would've spent over $1182.40 on the new Xbox'es. Lol, not my problem, its FutureShop's now.

ya gotta love these exteneded warranties.

ive gone through over 5 hoovers in 2 years lol,

altoghther inc. exteneded warranty = £250

WOuld have cost more than about £1000 if i bought all hoovers seperateely! still got a few months, time to get the latest model...

lol
Title: Warranty
Post by: krayzie on July 17, 2004, 05:06:00 PM
a hoover? isn't that like a vacuum cleaner or something?
Title: Warranty
Post by: RiceCake on July 17, 2004, 07:20:00 PM
No, the dam...lol.
Title: Warranty
Post by: krayzie on July 18, 2004, 12:27:00 AM
Oh the dam  wink.gif I thought he meant a craft biggrin.gif .
Title: Warranty
Post by: adil786 on July 18, 2004, 04:27:00 AM
QUOTE (krayzie @ Jul 18 2004, 02:06 AM)
a hoover? isn't that like a vacuum cleaner or something?

yup,

UK for vacccum cleaner!
Title: Warranty
Post by: total_ass on July 18, 2004, 04:53:00 AM
QUOTE (adil786 @ Jul 18 2004, 12:27 PM)
yup,

UK for vacccum cleaner!

don't you mean UK for hoover.

I live in U.K and i call them vacuum cleaners. Wait, why are we even having this conversation!
Title: Warranty
Post by: YoshiKool on July 18, 2004, 04:55:00 AM
Using the theory that even software modification voids your warranty - Do PC manufacturers still repair PCs if you uninstalled windows and put linux on?

edit: I suppose the xbox warranty might have different terms... hmm, do MS have an email address for xbox-related stuff?

edit2: oh, and adil, you could zero out the hdd to erase that...
Title: Warranty
Post by: adil786 on July 18, 2004, 05:06:00 AM
QUOTE (YoshiKool @ Jul 18 2004, 01:55 PM)
Using the theory that even software modification voids your warranty - Do PC manufacturers still repair PCs if you uninstalled windows and put linux on?

edit: I suppose the xbox warranty might have different terms... hmm, do MS have an email address for xbox-related stuff?

edit2: oh, and adil, you could zero out the hdd to erase that...

and how do you  epxect to zero out the hd?

there is always traces.
Title: Warranty
Post by: YoshiKool on July 18, 2004, 05:07:00 AM
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Title: Warranty
Post by: adil786 on July 18, 2004, 05:11:00 AM
QUOTE (YoshiKool @ Jul 18 2004, 02:07 PM)
oh wait i just remembered, to zero out the hdd and restore you'd need to open the xbox to put hdd in pc... silly me tongue.gif

exactly,

SILLY YOU F00L
Title: Warranty
Post by: YoshiKool on July 18, 2004, 05:15:00 AM
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Title: Warranty
Post by: SargeZT on July 18, 2004, 02:17:00 PM
Well, here's the deal.  The XBox warranty is different in significant ways compared to a computer warranty.  Most computer warranties cover the computer even if you opened it, installed new software, etc.  However, the XBox warranty has a section that specifically states that if you modify the xbox, the the warranty is null and void.  But, that's to be expected.  The question is if MS would refuse warranty service to a person with a softmodded xbox still under warranty.

Secondly, you could use XBoxLinux to zero out a hard drive using the 'dd' command.  But, the data would still be recoverable at that point, you'd need a sequence of zero'ing and writing random data to every sector of the hard drive, and repeat several times before the possibility of data recovery is a pipe dream.